i love boxingPosted June 18, 2014 10:37 am
Boxing fan half of the posts are missingPosted May 28, 2014 2:58 am
My posts?Posted May 28, 2014 2:43 am
dempsey????Posted May 27, 2014 11:37 pm
Dempsey would have been formidable in any era, Johnson and Gans? NahPosted May 27, 2014 7:35 pm
Why is my comment gone? I’ll try again…
TARK — Oh poor Ezzard… who took care of him? Did he have a family?Posted May 27, 2014 1:16 pm
charles. best light hw ever,bert sugar.Posted May 27, 2014 10:59 am
As for boxing history… How about JAJ…guess he would have been great in any era?Posted May 27, 2014 9:19 am
Neurodegenerative diseases are horrific diseases…well most diseases are…Posted May 27, 2014 9:04 am
… A friend of mine died from CJD…Posted May 27, 2014 7:16 am
Yes Charles was suffering from early symptoms of ALS, the disease that took his life at an early age. Charlie Goldman knew he was a safe opponent.Posted May 27, 2014 4:13 am
He never knew something was seriously wrong — until one day he was eating breakfeast and he couldn’t grip his spoon.Posted May 27, 2014 2:20 am
Charles was suffering from the early symptoms of ALS… unbeknownst to him… He said he never felt right starting with the 3rd Walcott fight, I think in 1951… He beat Walcott easily twice before but got knocked out.Posted May 27, 2014 2:18 am
True…, Charles at his best would have beaten Rocky, Vlades, and Johnson.
You see, Charles was suffering from the early inroads of a disease he didn’t know he had..
Charles always felt tired, exhausted, and unbalanced.. He had good days and bad days.. He had the early symptoms of ALS and never knew for sure something was seriously wrong… until a spoon fell out of his hand one morning, and he couldn’t grasp it again.. He couldn’t hold it at all..
That has to be scarey as Hell.. He had numerous checkups before and they always told him to get more rest.. He said, “I’m resting my life away and it doesn’t help.” … This time they sent him to top specialists… who gave him the bad news … “You’ve got a problem Mr. Charles.”Posted May 27, 2014 2:16 am
TARK — Interesting…didn’t know that… What I do know is that Ezzard, who was past his best when he fought Rock, lost to Johnson and Nino. You say that Al and Charlie didn’t want “big guys” fighting Rocky… So they cherry picked Ezzard as Rock’s opponent? I mean, he was past his best, lost to Johnson and punching bag Nino…Posted May 27, 2014 12:29 am
He’s gone down as great whether I think so or not.
It means he didn’t fight every mandatory challenger… It means there were very few formidable heavyweights when Rocky was champion… The division was at an all time low.. It’s true that his challengers were mostly washed up light heavyweights.
He did have some fighting ability obviously… but he defended the title only 6 times and retired rather than face Floyd Patterson.. I believe Patterson would have boxed the bejabbers out of the slow assed, crude swinging Rocky.Posted May 26, 2014 11:17 pm
Tark, does that mean Marcano was atg?? Or what’s your point?Posted May 26, 2014 10:45 pm
ECAT says.., “As for Marciano… Not quite sure exactly WHY people think Marciano was so amazing?
Rock was extremely lucky…he had no real competition, there were no real HW’s in the early 50′s so he fought mostly light heavyweights…and they were either washed up or past their prime.”
After Nino Valdez beat Ezzard Charles in 1953 he was the mandatory challenger for Marciano for a while.. That got fixed.. What happened later was Bob Baker and Nino Valdes had a box-off to determine a challenger for Marciano. I believe Marciano would have beaten those punching bags easily but Al Weill and Charlie Goldman didn’t want “big guys” fighting Rocky … and those madatories quietly vanished.Posted May 26, 2014 10:32 pm
Axel Schulz outboxed George Foreman and ‘lost’…another dud decision.Posted May 26, 2014 2:17 pm
I meant to say his opponents were either washed up or past their prime…Posted May 26, 2014 2:02 pm
Not a great list but its all subjective. My top 5 Wladimir-his jab alone is ordered and just about every heavyweights straight right
As for Marciano… Not quite sure exactly WHY people think Marciano was so amazing?
Rock was extremely lucky…he had no real competition, there were no real HW’s in the early 50’s so he fought mostly light heavyweights…and they were either washed up or past their prime…Posted May 26, 2014 9:16 am
wilder will be america’s next tysonPosted May 26, 2014 8:25 am
prime foreman was a huge hitter!Posted May 26, 2014 8:10 am
DMX…, Foreman refused to fight anyone tough, and even lost to China-chinned Tommy Morrison.
Moorer is Foreman’s only KO in his last 7 fights… His punch was GONE when he made his comeback… Why couldn’t George KO a weak chinned guy like Alex Stewart??? Iron Mike KO’d Stewart so easy it was ridiculous.
Foreman fought weak challengers like Crawford Grimsley and Lou Saverese… and couldn’t even knock them down.
Tyson put Saverese out with a very weak left hook… Jimmy Thunder knocked Grimsley out in 3 seconds with his first punch — in Grimsley’s next fight after Foreman.
Old Foreman was no great puncher, and refused to fight punchers like Ray Mercer… Ollie McCall… Razor Ruddock… Riddick Bowe… Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis … He fought super slow non-punchers like Axel Shultz and Crawford Grimsley and barely beat them.Posted May 25, 2014 10:49 pm
anonymous agreedPosted May 25, 2014 8:19 pm
Foreman was a great puncher, yes, but he just couldn’t box. Tommy was a great fighter, but he had a weak chin and a lousy defense, that’s why he got KO’ed by Marvin, who really couldn’t punch THAT hard, and by Barkley, who was inept and slow as hell! An ATG boxer should be a master of defensive boxing—’cause boxing is the art of hitting without being hit.Posted May 25, 2014 8:04 pm
i love tyson, prime iron mike was the greatest ever. wonderful defence, movement and explosive power to rival any fighter in history.Posted May 25, 2014 7:31 pm
wilder hits so freaking hard i think even harder than iron mikePosted May 25, 2014 6:45 pm
Klinchko wouldn’t last 1 round he don’t have the footwork to deal with TysonPosted May 25, 2014 5:07 pm
of all time?One would have to reconsider several mentioned.Maidana usually not a one punch ko artist.Stevenson ko,d dawson for his fame.Way too soon to put him all time.earnie Shavers not mentioned.Tommy Hearns not mentioned.Rocky marciano not mentioned.wilder c,mon,who has he Ko,d of any top notch fighter?had he fought Tony thompson and Ko,d him well maybe or an equvelent,but he has not.GGG has not fought the best either.joe lewis not mentioned.jack dempsey,mike tyson took out an aged holmes viciously,and many others.Vitali klitschco flattened many and so his brother made the list but should be higher and you will see why once if ever he fights Wlad.not to take anything away from these questionable relatively untested best of all time.one has to know all the fighters of past and current ones.a fun article however.Posted May 25, 2014 4:34 pm
LMAO!!!! Tyson would’ve swept the floor with Foreman!!!!Posted May 25, 2014 2:52 pm
Big George Foreman
I agree with Bluesman
Dmx…Tyson didnt call out Foreman so he was SCARED of Foreman ?? That is the stupidest comment ive heard in a long time. I havent heard mayweather call out eric morales so obvioisly mayweather is scared @#%less. Havent heard GGG call out Trinidad whos having money issues and could use a gigantic payday. GGG must be having nightmares every night of Titos left hook…right genious???Posted May 25, 2014 10:46 am
Stop living in the past. This article was for todays boxers and once again it back to the hasbeens. Watch wlad ko’ing calvin brock and ray Austin if you want to see power in either hand.Posted May 25, 2014 9:02 am
Mick the Marmalizer
Why doe’s this you commenting too earlyPosted May 25, 2014 6:51 am
Mick the Marmalizer
“NO NO NO” I’m not F***ing commenting too early! It was my 1st comments of the day you retards!!!!!…………..Posted May 25, 2014 6:50 am
Why then, considering the match would have been huge
Tyson was WAAAAAY too fast for Foreman… Just like Tyson was WAAAAAY too fast for those other huge, slow punchers: Bonecrusher Smith, Razor Ruddock, and Frank Bruno..
Tyson was a speed demon.. Iron Mike blitzed Alex Stewart in less than a minute.. Stewart was so slow with his swings he couldn’t even touch the speedy Tyson… but hammered Foreman with almost every slow punch he threw… Tyson knocked Stewart TFO immediately… if not sooner.
A year later Stewart gave Foreman a horrible beating and should have gotten the decision.
Michael Spinks was just as big and just as smart a boxer as Jimmy Young… and could punch a lot harder… Tyson blitzed Michael Spinks in 90 seconds … FLAT!!! … and would have done the same thing to Jimmy Young.Posted May 25, 2014 4:19 am
@Bluesman.., “Before he was trained by Clancy, Foreman was a wrecking machine and would have EASILY KO’ED Young in the first two rounds, PERIOD.”
So that’s why a very slow Ron Lyle knocked a very sloppy Foreman down twice—and almost knocked him out??? … And why Ali made a dolt out of Foreman like Young did???
Quarry and Young easily outboxed Lyle with little effort.. Foreman couldn’t box.. You need to be able to box to beat somebody as smart as Jimmy Young.. Young had 5 defeats when he fought Foreman and only about 19 wins—so Jimmy wasn’t that experienced or slick—but he was clever enough to beat Foreman 8 days a week. Wladimir Klitschko would have dominated and destroyed Young … in the same manner he did Chris Byrd and Fast Eddie Chambers.
I think Foreman mulled over his 2 losses for 10 years—and when he made his comeback he knew something about relaxing in the ring… along with pace and patience.Posted May 25, 2014 4:06 am
Funny enough even through Tyson’s glory years
In my book Foreman is # 1 for hardest puncher with Tyson not far behind at # 2. Foreman would’ve CRUSHED Tyson though with his uppercuts.Posted May 25, 2014 1:26 am
Foreman wasn’t at his best when he fought Jimmy Young, enda story. Gil Clancy, who was a great trainer, made the mistake of trying to make Foreman more a technician, which Foreman WAS NOT. Unforunately, Foreman took his time WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much and left himself open to be hit much more because of this. Before he was trained by Clancy, Foreman was a wrecking machine and would have EASILY KO’ED Young in the first two rounds, PERIOD. As for Tyson’s fight with Buster Douglas, Tyson was VERY out-of-shape, breathing hard and looking VERY winded and tired after the first half of the fight. He also no longer bobbed and weaved since he no longer had the great Kevin Rooney in his corner, who carried on the boxing techniques of the late, great Cus D’Mato. Top of that, he relied on ONLY on one punch at a time, thus not throwing combinations. Anyone who disagrees with this is just PLAIN WRONG. :-)Posted May 25, 2014 1:24 am
Once again: After tonight’s fight, Stevenson ought to be removed from this list – not positioned lower – just removed from this list entirely.Posted May 24, 2014 11:54 pm
A lot of those so-called ATG’s punchers I talked about in the post below lost to cherry-picked opponents they were highly favored to beat… What was Buster Douglas??? … Jimmy Young??? … Terry Norris??? … Ron Stander??? … Iran Barkley???
They weren’t supposed to beat the crap out of those ATG’s
Today’s great KO punchers who I’m talked about in the post below aren’t ducking anyone… They’re being ducked… That’s the differencePosted May 24, 2014 10:29 pm
I’ll give Mikey Garcia a pass on that last comment.Posted May 24, 2014 8:46 pm
Tark, your unbeaten rhetoric is boring. Of course guys can go unbeaten feeding on journeymen and bums.Posted May 24, 2014 8:45 pm
Not muchnegative to say about wilder tark? What are you on? He can’t jab. Had terrible balance. His stance needs years of work. His chin is glass.Posted May 24, 2014 7:53 pm
let wilder fight povetkinPosted May 24, 2014 6:39 pm
good list except for wilder.Posted May 24, 2014 4:37 pm
This pundit says.., “Ernie Shavers, Mike Tyson, Julian Jackson, George Foreman, Bob Foster, Tommy Hearns, Sandy Saddler, Archie Moore, Rocky Marciano and many more have acquired enviable reputations as some of the sport’s most feared hitters”
Quarry said of Shavers, “Stander knocked Ernie out cold. Nobody knocks me out.”
Douglas said of Tyson, “I got 20 pounds, 5 inches on Mike. I’m too fast for him.”
McCallum said of Jackson, “Any good boxer will murder this punk.”
Young said of Foreman, “He’s very easy to hit.”
Frazier said of Foster, “He can hit, but he can’t take.”
Barkley said of Hearns, “He’s a sucker for a right hand.”
However… there’s not much negative you can say about Sergei Kovalev.. Gennady Golovkin.. Deontay Wilder.. Mikey Garcia.. or Keith Thurman..
Those boys can all punch your lights out… none has ever been beaten.Posted May 24, 2014 4:32 pm
it would be very effective because he’s punching down on the guy and his right hand is coming behind it.Posted May 24, 2014 4:27 pm
Hm, Klitchkos Jab would be not as effective versus a style like IbeauchiPosted May 24, 2014 3:52 pm
Ike Ibeabuchi, one of the best punchers ever! Damn this guy would have been a top HW with his amazing hand speed, power ,stamina and iron chin. The fight with David Tua was spectacular! I would have loved to have seen him fight Tyson, Lewis, Klitschko.Posted May 24, 2014 1:16 pm
” would apply ” ; sorry .Posted May 24, 2014 10:49 am
I find that remark about Wider ; ” you can only face what
i think we have to add the kilit bros.to that list.We may after allis said have to enter the Haitian champ to the list.Posted May 24, 2014 10:19 am
No GGG?Posted May 24, 2014 9:28 am
“Anonymous You’re boyfriends aids test came in it’s not goodPosted May 24, 2014 7:28 am
Ibeabuchi, a waste of talentPosted May 24, 2014 6:25 am
Valero was an animal
Guys like Vallero and Ike Ikebuchi only can blames themselves for self destructPosted May 24, 2014 5:22 am
Deceased nutcase Edwin Valero is a modern fighter that had that KO killer instinct
Pacman DUCKED Valero at Lightweight to take on David Diaz who is possibly the worst Lightweight title holder for maybe 50 years or more. Pac avoided the constant calls from camp Valero to duel. Pac ran from Valero.Posted May 24, 2014 5:04 am
Deceased nutcase Edwin Valero is a modern fighter that had that KO killer instinct
Anyone could have 100% knockout ratio fighting the bums Wilder has fought. Vlad easily beat Wilder from one side of the ring to the other while sparring for the Wach fight, Vlad would knock Wilder out cold……………..Posted May 24, 2014 1:41 am
Yeah, well. Arthur Abraham had the hardest punch of all back when he was a middleweight. Wladimir Klitschko could have had a few more KO’s if would rough it up. His left hook already KO’ed Ray Austin in the 2nd round. A lot of the boxers on the list still have to face top-tier competition. A KO resumee based on sub-par opposition don’t make a heavy hitter.Posted May 23, 2014 7:53 pm
De Lima I.
“A fight with the unbeaten Kubrat Pulev is set to be next up for him, before a potential unification clash with WBC champion Bermane Stiverne.”
It’s unlikely that WK will fight Pulev in September… The unification fight is more important than Pulev.
Boente is still in negotiation with Stiverne’s camp, they are interested in a fight with VK. Well, all except Don King…Posted May 23, 2014 4:59 pm
Ordered and = harder than belowPosted May 23, 2014 3:57 pm
Not a great list but its all subjective. My top 5
Wladimir-his jab alone is ordered and just about every heavyweights straight right
vlad is the hardest puncher and is an all time great and hall of famer, vlad thankyouPosted May 23, 2014 3:35 pm
“Some critics have questioned the level of competition that the 6ft 7inch Alabama bruiser has been in with, but you can only face what is put in front of you…”
Yeah, thats why he never fought anyone north of top50… FFSPosted May 23, 2014 1:56 pm
And he has my favourite nickname of any fighter
“The ghost with the hammer”Posted May 23, 2014 1:23 pm