america blows at boxing? how exactly is that with all the champs they got? mayweather, mikey garcia, danny garcia, crawford, porter, and ward are all world champs right now
hopkins, quillin, and peterson knob bob. they’re cheaters, duckers or frauds so i won’t count them
but that still gives america 6 world champs. more than anyone elsePosted June 2, 2014 3:40 pm
Gonzo = mephisto = Turbo H@mster = Mongrelenko = Anonymous = DMX = It’s me, Ernie
this immature bloke is the worst serial multi posting troll this web site has ever seen….. Gonzo, mephisto, Turbo H@mster, Mongrelenko, Anonymous, DMX, It’s Me, Ernie…..are only a several out of the dozens of monikers this sad loser uses on a daily basis…….hes like a cyber terrorist who specializes in attacking the best commenters on ESB like Joseph Herron and TARK……
then when hes having his delusions of grandeur claims to be the #1 best poster in history of the internet…..this boy is a very sick chap with no social life and needs to be locked up in a padded room with a straight jacket……calling him funny only encourages this mentally deranged troll to flood this site with pure rubbish……
ESB was once one of the most respectable boxing forums in the world until this relentless troll ruined it like just another toilet at his institution for the the criminally insane…….as a Brit is makes me very ashamed to see one of my countrymen sabotaging the once great ESB…….its very sad really……Posted June 1, 2014 2:19 pm
Turb0-H@mster got some new aerobars
UFC is still a sport in it’s infancy though in world terms. Honestly, I don`t know about in the US, but in places like the UK and Australia, the only people watching it are the cross eyed bogans and pikey-chav-munkeys. The kind of people who have a rats-tail, or generally grew up in a cellar, or a farm with noone to talk to but goats.
There isn`t the groundroots support or training to create UFC fighters.Posted June 1, 2014 4:13 am
Turb0-H@mster got some new aerobars
Squared……They ban IP addresses not names, so I wouldn`t worry about bans. And if you do get banned you just use an IP proxy like hidemyass and you are able to post again.
Though I am not sure why you think it is Gonzo, you guys tend to be on the same page. Well as much as anyone can be on the same page as a human-vulture hybrid possessed of dangerous powers bestowed by Bahamut.Posted June 1, 2014 4:06 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
America — The proud home of 8 out of the 9 UFC World Champions. The sport that’s much closer to REAL fighting than any other combat sport on the planet. And it’s completely dominated by my fellow Americans — warriors who know how to fight and beat people down.
That what called total world domination. Punching and kicking above your weight, man for man…woman for woman. The only MMA World Champion not from the USA is Jose Aldo of Brazil. As far as I know, there has never been a UFC World Champion from the UK or Europe. The closest thing has probably been Michael Bisping and he was recently owned by Tim Kennedy — a U.S. special forces Army Ranger and Green Beret. I enjoyed every second of watching the sh*t takin’ loud-mouth Bisping getting ground & pounded and humbled by a true warrior. D@mn, that was an enjoyable spectacle!Posted June 1, 2014 4:02 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
I see “Gonzo the Dragonborn” is hard at work posting under my alias/handle while trying his best to get me banned from ESB. It’s not the first time this petulant child has resorted to these cowardly passive-aggressive tactics. How disappointing for a guy who claims to be the only tier-one poster on ESB. I would expect that same type of behavior from a Jr. High school girl…lol.Posted June 1, 2014 2:54 am
Mr. Groves stated, “Froch has ZERO chance to win, and he knows it.”Posted May 31, 2014 8:29 pm
merton suckerman ate the big one. suck face had it coming. he can’t box a lick. i only which he wasn’t hurt so bad and made it to his feet. i wanted carl to plow him a little harder so he’d be seeing tweety birds for a weekPosted May 31, 2014 7:21 pm
Guess not lol.Posted May 31, 2014 5:42 pm
Groves is to fast for Froch. Groves is still a little raw but hes looking like the only possible competitive fight for Ward in the near future.Posted May 31, 2014 5:16 pm
This is going to be a great fight.Posted May 31, 2014 5:04 pm
I think Groves will win. He has lighter skin.Posted May 31, 2014 4:58 pm
I think Froch can win this one.Posted May 31, 2014 4:56 pm
I remember that too. Bomber was miles ahead and Jackson had either one or both eyes closing and missing wildly. Bomber was standing him on his head and then, BOOM! Bomber was out before he had even hit the canvas! One of the best KOs I’ve ever seen! Jackson was a murderous puncher at both 154 and 160.Posted May 31, 2014 4:26 pm
Yeap, you’re right, Rod Douglas, good fighter. Herol ‘Bomber’ Graham was his last fight. The following year Herol got flattened by Julian Jackson. I remember watching that fight, Julian was on the verge of being stopped, if I recall Bomber was winning easily, and Jackson’s corner said one more round. Herol was winning the round and then BANG lights out before Herol hit the canvas. Julian was a heck of puncher.Posted May 31, 2014 3:01 pm
“This old broomhas had 17 new heads and 14 new handles in its time.”Posted May 31, 2014 2:43 pm
T22 and DAVE
Thanks for the memories. I must’ve missed Georgie Collins fight with Laing, but I do remember Tony Collins’ fight with Wally Swift Jnr.
Yep, Horace Notice, big, good. I think he had to retire with a detached retina. I’m sure he didn’t lose in the ring? Loved Mo Hussein. Wasn’t he known as The Tank? Rocky Kelly was a warrior.
Do you guys remember Rod Douglas? I thought he had the tools to go all the way, but I think he suffered a head injury and sadly that was the end of his career.Posted May 31, 2014 2:19 pm
I’ve owned this broom for 20 years….Posted May 31, 2014 2:16 pm
TJ and T22 … steady on lads you’re making me feel old.
Yeah I remember all those days.
TJ … 1985 radio Luxembourg, early hours of the morning, listening to the commentator totally losing the plot with extreme excitement, the reception fading in and out, as Hagler and Hearns went totally mental.
We road sweepers have a saying, ‘Look after your broom.’
Trigger (RIP)Posted May 31, 2014 2:07 pm
TJ- George Collins fought Kirkland Laing after he lost to Gary Jacobs. Laing dropped him in the 2nd round and stopped him in the 5th defending his British Title. Good fight. Tony Collins did win the British title at light middle I think but Im sure he lost it to Wally Swift jr. Irecollect he won another title maybe an international one. Other UK fighters I enjoyed watching were Rocky Kelly, Horace Notice, Mo Hussein and Lloyd Christie.Posted May 31, 2014 1:32 pm
sal sanchez. greatest feather ever.Posted May 31, 2014 12:32 pm
fake gonzo, I just charred a huge joint, and that hilarious rant had me in stitches, the beef stew line was the crescendo. funny stuffPosted May 31, 2014 11:57 am
I’m just watching the NONITO DONAIRE fight live and this idiot referee has stopped the fight at the start of the 5th round with both guys in their corners and the ref not even consulting the ref
WTF is wrong with officiating these days!
We’re going to score cards right now. DONAIRE has a knockdown in his favour!
This is a complete farce!Posted May 31, 2014 11:13 am
Thanks HENRY MILLER,
I did a disservice to Roberto Duran of Panama and the likes of my friend Cornelius Boza Edwards of Uganda and Hector Macho Camacho (RIP) of Puerto Rico who were tearing up the boards whether dominating divisions or in Corny’s case being involved in perennial FOTY fights with the likes of Navarette, Bazooka Limon, Bobby Chacon and even facing the great Alexis Arguello!
Yes, you’re correct about the original bad blood showdown between Christie of the
Kaylor vs Christie was enormous back then…. They rucked at the press conference and were fined and censured. Errol was the golden boy, with silky skills coming out of his ears, but Kaylor was made of Iron and he was deceptively strong for his skinny frame. He smashed Christie to bits. Hard nut, which leads me onto the Midland fighters Tony Sibson and a little later, Chris Pyatt! Sibbo had that barrel chest and reading Marvelous Marvin Hagler in the latest Ring Magazine, he said Sibbo was the strongest man he faced. He jabbed him in the chest at the presser an thought, “oh,no!”
Hagler proceeded to box him to bits rather than meet him head on.
Boy Georgie and younger brother Tony I wrote about a few months ago… they were from a travelling family and won just about everything at Schoolboy amateur level, breaking all sorts of records.
I think both were rushed on ITV and Collins was something like 30 and 0 lost to Gary Jacobs and never fought again. I think Tony was stopped a couple of times after a few wins and If I remember right both were retired before they reached the age of 24!
I saw Lloyd Honeyghan a couple of times at the Albert Hall vs Cliff Gilpin (life and death) and Roger Stafford and Horace Shufford (masterclasses), but nev saw The Gifted One, Kirkland Laing, live!
He had all the talent in the world, but mine of the dedication to make it.
I just remembered he fought Rocky Kelly! Wow! Rocky Kelly was one heck of an exciting fighter. He definitely deserved the Rocky name and watched Jim a few times on BBC on a Saturday afternoon.
I have so many great and bitter sweet memories of boxing in the 1980s.
I also forgot to mention how great it was for ESPN TV to show some of these great fights introducing us to the likes of Frank Animal Fletcher, Alexis Ramos, Curtis Parker etc…
Anyone remember Juan LaPorte, Edwin Rosario (RIP) and another guy I was remiss in forgetting Barry McGuigan?
Barry was the equivalent of Ricky Hatton today, although significantly he united all of Ireland in troubled times through his ferocious fighting style, vicious body punching, his Dad sing DANNY BOY and coming in to Rocky.
It was a great ride watching Barry do his thing, a really great ride!Posted May 31, 2014 11:10 am
Dave… Froch makes everyone work hard and normally manages to find a way to win somehow, even wen the opponent is more skilled than him. But I c tonight being pretty much a rerun of the last fight. But no knockdowns. And Groves will b more disciplined this time and won’t run out of gas. A clear points win for George. … I’ve learnt not to bet against Froch tho…so won’t b gambling on this one!Posted May 31, 2014 10:51 am
no boxtradamus, you were not correct. you picked pov by Russian robbery decision, you predicted charr to have the better of the fight. I’m afraid you were wrong, but I was right predicting a pov ko. you know what boxtra, I am not the greatest fight prophet ever bron, im not the man of your dreams, but you know what I am? I’m a guy is abetter boxing analyst than you, im a better predictor than you, I never shamefully attempt to cover my tracks like you (ie. your comments after broner-maidana). you know what else I am boxy….I;m much more liked and respected on Esb than you ever will be, despite your years of grotesque homoerotic self love. the joke you are, is a punchline you alone don’t getPosted May 31, 2014 10:50 am
Not forgetting of course … Errol Christie v Mark Kaylor in a great domestic dust up in 1985.
And the Collins brothers George and Tony.
And of course ‘the gifted one’ Kirkland Laing who loved the high life, smokes, drink and women, and won a split decision over Roberto Duran.
Kirkland was a great talent, but sometimes they had to go to the pub to get in him into the ring. Hope you’re doing well these days, Kirkland.
PS … Salavdor Sanchez was incredible, a fabulous fighter who passed away far too young. We probably never got to see him reach his peak, but boy was he something special.Posted May 31, 2014 10:39 am
Tj – a terrific flash through some amazing and we must say sometimes tawdry history. And the mention of Aaron Pryor, and memories of his opening bell charge across the ring flood back vividly. Talk abt a guy who was ducked.Posted May 31, 2014 10:19 am
I’m from the UK and I have no problem with USA, Canada, Mexico or anyone for the Americas or from any part of the boxing world to be honest, whether it be boxing or tolerance.
Boxing has a rich and vibrant history that has gone through sometimes regional and others cyclical dominance, which in fact is great for boxing in general.
I grew up in the 1980s as boxing had 2, soon to become 3 and then 4 bodies (WBA & WBC) and was in the throws of the Mancini – Duk Koo Kim tragedy, soon to reduce it’s fights from 15 to 12 rounds and soon to introduce (if I remember correctly) Marvin Camel as the first Cruiserweight (or as WBA called it Jnr Heavyweight) champion…
Our boys only got title shots by being the best in UK (BBBC), British, Europe and Commonwealth champion (alas, sadly the Commonwealth region is the one IMHO that has deteriorated badly in the last decade or so),…
I grew up with Jim Watt inviting the likes of Charlie Nash and Bubblegum Sean O’Grady to the Kelvin Hall to challenge him… I grew up watching Alexis Arguello challenge The Hawk Aaron Pryor, twice in unforgettable wars attempting to be the first man to win titles at 4 different weights… 30 years later, we have multiple titlists with 4, 5 and even more titles at different weights!
We had great, great fighters in Salvador Sanchez (my alltime number 2 fighter) from Mexico, Wilfredo Gomez with 17 straight KOs at Super Bantam, from Puerto Rico, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Holmes, Chandler (a rarity at the time…a decent American at Bantam), Santos Laciar, Sot Chitalada, Eusebio Pedroza, Spinks etc were the top guys when I got into boxing….
In UK we had Charlie Magri at Flyweight, who I’m lucky enough not just to see, but to chat to many a time, Pat Cowdell from the Midlands, unlucky enough to run into Sanchez and Nelson, the Feeney brothers, Minter, Colin Jones (who had two of the finest fights we had the pleasure of watching live on BBC TV free to air vs Milton McCrory and millions watched)..
All I’m saying is boxing has always been diverse with fighters from many different countries at the top of their games… it’s always been cyclical and regional and there will always be shifts and swings. Right now we have an influx of fighters from the old Eastern bloc which is great for boxing as new styles, new techniques and new thinking must be taken on board and deciphered and countered….
The real power in boxing has never been the boxers themselves, it was always the promoters (sometimes gangsters) and now in conjunction with the TV companies, they have all the power in making a fighter or breaking a fighter.
Potentially great fighters have always been frozen out of the title picture…. I remember watching a documentary on Sugar Ray Robinson that said he was so big and so well respected that when the gangsters approached him to throw a fight in return of a promised title shot, he politely declined and they left him alone and Ray earned his shot. Most other fighters would be frozen out of the picture, but even they knew they couldn’t freeze out the Sugarman…
An average boxer with a strong and powerful promoter will go far, whereas a good boxer with a weak promoter is going nowhere…
Example …Dennis Hobson had FROCH, he had DeGale he had many other fighters, who all had to jump ship to get into the big leagues…
We should just be grateful that in the last couple of years we’ve had a plethora of decent fights and part of that is thanks to those guys who got behind Setanta TV and lobbied them to get a dedicated boxing channel…
We lobbied for more than 2 years and told them we would pay for a boxing only channel and then what’d you know, up pops Buncey and Frank and we get Box Nation!!!Posted May 31, 2014 9:53 am
Kenny Anderson walked Groves down behind a high guard, floored him and had him on Queer Street for the next couple of rounds.
Watch Sky today, they’ll probably show it again.
Anderson vs Groves is very similar to FROCH vs Groves even with a debatable stoppage. Anderson was stopped on his feet, but probably could’ve continued… Groves was clearly out on his….
Anderson is even slower than FROCH…
FROCH must tuck up and walk Groves down from behind a tight guard and forcing him to empty his tank on arms and gloves and then pounce in the middle rounds and really hammer GG to the body and re-introduce his Cobra uppercut to finish Georgie!Posted May 31, 2014 9:21 am
Nottingham is the Midlands not North!!!Posted May 31, 2014 9:09 am
America don’t care about boxing anymore since they had to start fighting decent fighters after the cold war. All them reel clips of Americans fighting Americans have long gone. Now they lose to East Europeams and Russians they now say Boxing aint what it used to be. Correct for 30 years they were fighting themselves hyping the fights like only America knows how. But now the Cold War is over and America is getting defeated constantly, oh now Boxing is boring lmao. The hypocrisy is hilarious.Posted May 31, 2014 8:49 am
Groves pumping his insect like biceps. If he was strict and dedicated like Froch he would have 7 percent body fst like Froch. Groves likes his burgers too much though and his endorsements like wearing stupid headphones attached to nothing. Bye bye groves the time has come for your demise, figuratively speaking of course. Froch was doing all that Come Dancing crap on TV and not taking Groves seriously last time. Now he’s 110 percent focused on the shy boy.Posted May 31, 2014 8:43 am
dont upset the yanks otherwise they will stop us watching basketball on cable tv.Posted May 31, 2014 8:38 am
you gotta love the way these modern fighters pose like body builders. like tin man groves he will be out of gas 8 rounds tops.Posted May 31, 2014 8:24 am
Who cares where they fight, US or in Europe. I’d watch them fight in a park. This is easily the biggest fight this year. Anyone moaning about anything else just has issues. Who cares!Posted May 31, 2014 8:24 am
HH London, Never seen team Groves give Kenny Anderson his rematch lolPosted May 31, 2014 7:48 am
70 pounds to sit a mile away from the ring. fantastic value.Posted May 31, 2014 7:02 am
Popkins, who you got for this one? And how do you see it playing out?
Same question applies to LionKing.
Will you be watching the fight tonight? I guess it’ll be early evening for you guys over there. It’s intense already, I can’t imagine what 80,000 at Wembley is gonna be like. It’s gonna be totally mad. Very exciting. Can’t wait.Posted May 31, 2014 6:40 am
Dave… Big time boxing generally, sure. But Vegas is still easily the best fight CITY in the world. By a mile. … I really don’t see Manchester, Liverpool, London, Berlin, Copenhagen or Paris coming anywhere close … To try and clump them altogether in order to rival Las Vegas is quite insulting to Europe.Posted May 31, 2014 6:14 am
Popkins the evidence suggests differently, you are living in the past. Big time boxing has shifted from the US to Europe.Posted May 31, 2014 5:51 am
Wembley is a fantastic stadium and great for the odd one off boxing event. But people at the back are guna c F all! … I bet those fans will think twice about coming back for another fight there. 20,000 is perfect for a boxing match IMO… And Wembley itself is out in the sticks, half an hour from Central London. It’s ok for British fans but I’d b disappointed if I flew from abroad for a weekend there. Vegas is buzzing on fight WE. Wembley (out in the middle of nowhere) may be too, but London as a whole certainly won’t be. … This fight is fantastic for Great Britain, absolutely. And it’ll b a great fight too. But football stadiums in the UK and Germany have not yet replaced Las Vegas.Posted May 31, 2014 5:32 am
“Vegas IS the Mecca of boxing” ??? LMFAO!!! Those days are long gone! with their puny little crowds. hahahahaha
Eddie Hearn said it yesterday, Europe is the new home of big time boxing. And he’s right.
50-60,000 in Germany
80,000 in London.
Big time boxing in America is history.Posted May 31, 2014 5:12 am
@Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing), you only fight no holds bared in your sleep, and the only thing you ever boxed is a big mac at Mcdonalds.PEACE.Posted May 31, 2014 5:01 am
Jam… Fair points, but come on man, Vegas IS the Mecca of boxing! Tyson, Pacman and Mayweather… The three biggest names in boxing over the last 20 years…they’ve all made the MGM their home. … Holyfield/bowe, Hagler/Hearns, Barrera/morales, Leonard/Hearns, Castillo/corales … Etc etc… Some of the greatest fights ever – all in Las Vegas!Posted May 31, 2014 5:00 am
testPosted May 31, 2014 4:59 am
wrong lion king. im not mephisto.Posted May 31, 2014 4:53 am
Got to be honest – can’t stand Americans and how they have put Vegas as the Mecca. All fighters are classed as European level unless they fight in America – f*ck them!
“A contest so special it deserved a different font…” – I was wondering whats up with that. Ha.Posted May 31, 2014 4:30 am
I bet Carl never thought fighting Groves would get anywhere near this….80 000….He blew George off last time and didn’t take him serous,this time he looks well up for it…..Propping groves up is the fact he thinks he is much better than he is..But Groves is not a very good boxer,he walks in face first and in a ridiculous crouch position.He is not a chilling puncher,his best punch is is a big right hand and that is about it……Under pressure he will fold and trapped on the ropes knows only one thing, cover up and hope he will go away…George will get hurt tonight…..Posted May 31, 2014 4:19 am
aaaaaaannnnndddd ……. Back on topic.
What a great line-up for this event.
mephisto you took the words right out of my mouth !Posted May 31, 2014 2:12 am
lionking, you have to learn to be humble; you are so full of sh!t most of the time, that is puzzling to think that you don’t see it……you have a serious insecurity complex; and i mean a SERIOUS one.Posted May 31, 2014 2:05 am
SEA OTTER WITH A PENCIL DICK, you remember me……great.Posted May 31, 2014 1:59 am
ingles?? wtf? anyway, I forgive you; I hate your arrogance and you should consider to tone it down a bit. If you do, you’ll be more likeable and I’d be ok with it. Ingles??? WTF????Posted May 31, 2014 1:55 am
Sea Otter with a huge rod
You want to watch it mephisto or I`ll r@pe you like a baby seal.Posted May 31, 2014 1:43 am
lionking, what’s my main handle?Posted May 31, 2014 1:28 am
burn22, stop using cheap drugs.Posted May 31, 2014 1:22 am
Mephisto, you are a dumb ass! All the wetbacks from England should have stayed there. There were plenty of “AMERICANS” here way before the British came. Stupid ass!Posted May 31, 2014 1:18 am
sean p h, f/uck you. how about that.Posted May 31, 2014 1:14 am
sean p h
Squared. Good write and yes you are right about galicia. Galways in the house and so is mdPosted May 31, 2014 1:07 am
squared as$hole, i get what you’re saying and you’re about right but you’re an as$hole regardless.Posted May 31, 2014 1:04 am
Britain is the old “country” before northern Ireland was annexed.Posted May 31, 2014 12:51 am
squared as$hole, you suck eggs……stop reading Wikipedia.Posted May 31, 2014 12:44 am
That was another Bob Arum excuse. He was building an 80000 seater stadium for the Floyd/Manny fight.
How is that stadium coming along>?Posted May 30, 2014 11:48 pm
they have small dicks but other than that they’re great.Posted May 30, 2014 11:15 pm
without the British we wouldn’t have the Americans.Posted May 30, 2014 11:14 pm
Britain is a great boxing country.Posted May 30, 2014 11:01 pm
I’m definitely impressed with the rabid British boxing fans support for big fights. An 80,000 sellout is unbelievable! The popularity and variety of year round team sports (e.g., football, basketball, baseball) has taken away from America’s support of its boxers. However, I’m not certain that boxing at its peak popularity in America would ever top an 80,000 crowd capacity for any boxing event outside of Mayweather vs. Pac held in a large venue.Posted May 30, 2014 9:59 pm
/ really doesn’t work.Posted May 30, 2014 9:40 pm
sea otter with a pencil dick, you’re a f/ucking moron.Posted May 30, 2014 9:22 pm
Peterson was cleared with medical science.Posted May 30, 2014 8:46 pm
Sea Otter with a huge rod
Is Ward going to commentate on this fight. It`s funny watching him drip with envy over the $$$’s this is bringing in.
His head is like a potato in a condom at the best of times, but it gets positively bongled out of shape when he talks about his British masters.Posted May 30, 2014 7:50 pm
Sea Otter with a huge rod
The IBF are an interesting lot.
They did okay to order this rematch.
But they let Lamont Peterson cheat his filthy hole off.Posted May 30, 2014 7:48 pm
Froch didn’t give Groves the rematch. The IBF ordered it. Left to Froch and Hearn, Froch’s fanboys would be watching him fight a fatter Chavez Jnr tomorrow night.Posted May 30, 2014 6:52 pm
Groves retires Froch.Posted May 30, 2014 6:51 pm
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
Groves is set for a world tour of Germany for the next 2 years, win or lose.Posted May 30, 2014 6:35 pm
crispy bacons best
Anonymous swings.Anonymous smokes the ginger salamiPosted May 30, 2014 5:46 pm
if groves gets beat again he will be fighting degale in a kentish town car park.Posted May 30, 2014 5:44 pm
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
Apparently Froch is running scared and won’t give Groves a rematch. Sorry, still catching up with the Mockney press from December…Posted May 30, 2014 5:33 pm
When’s this fight on? I love boxing, but I hadn’t heard about this one.Posted May 30, 2014 5:01 pm
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
A contest so special it deserved a different font…Posted May 30, 2014 4:42 pm
I honestly can’t wait for this fight. Cobra has a lot to prove. He has to prove that Groves ability to hang with him was a fluke. If Carl can look good in this rematch, it wil shut down all the critics who think he’s not for real. He’s lost a couple of high profile fights…. barely… He got outclassed by Ward, but based on his resume, I’d hang his hat way higher than the undefeated Joe Calzaghe.
“Can’t wait!”” – in my bet Bart Scott voice.Posted May 30, 2014 4:06 pm