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Truth be told both PE and te tumbo are pretty knowledgeable boxing fans but something short circuits once they start with that PR vs Mexico crap.

Posted June 21, 2013 12:05 pm 

te tumbo

Btw, the only “excitement” i felt after watching Mikey lay out JuanMono was the satisfaction of being right once again. otherwise, i’ve never acknowledged the “rivalry” and no PR fighter registers on my radar as a great or threatening to anybody. whether Douchebag believes it or not, i always expect the Mexican fighter to somehow prevail over their PR competition. i’m only surprised when it goes the other way but even then i don’t completely unravel in a public or emotional meltdown like one pathetic finger-pointing, dry-snitching turd.

Posted June 21, 2013 11:08 am 

te tumbo

“Wallace- stop asking te tumbo for opinions on PR boxing…” very perceptive post SRMINIMO. i’ve been predicting the demise of PR boxing for over a year now. it’s what provided Public Douche with a purpose for his otherwise bitter and lonely existence. i tagged Lopez a hype-job going back to the Penalosa brawl. i tagged Cotto to be permanently Margarito-damaged while also pointing out that Margarito absorbed no less damage and punishment. beyond that: NADA. Btw, historically only Ortiz, Gomez, and Camacho rise to the level of ATGreatness and Gomez and Camacho were humbled by Mexican greats Sanchez and Chavez, i.e., what “rivalry”? nothing but a promotional ploy to keep the intere$t of a desperate fanbase. nowadays, the only motivation for PR fans to post about boxing is to Hate on Chicano-Mexicano fighters, e.g., Public Douchebag’s pathetic, finger-pointing, dry-snitching, protests of “Te Tumbo Made Me Do It!?!” the prototypical profile of a cowardly RAT. i can easily imagine Douchebag trampling over women and children while trying to reach the lifeboats of the Costa Concordia. it’s the primary reason that i don’t trust or respect a single letter this pathetic little turd posts in response to my correct and accurate posts about the utter demise of PR boxing and the end of their imaginary “rivalry” . . . NEXT?

Posted June 21, 2013 11:03 am 


I never heard Emmanuel Steward say, “If you think you can get one punch KO Power from some extra gauze and tape you know nothing about Boxing” … That doesn’t sound like anything Steward would say.

Tape on the knuckles, especially if it’s layered … definitely can give you KO power.. That’s why we have regulations on how much tape you can use and where you can put it..

If it didn’t cause a problem we wouldn’t have those regulations. Tito had to redo his wraps — no question he was out of compliance. You had to keep an eagle eye on that lad … and Bowie Fisher did.

Posted June 20, 2013 7:05 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“I think the fker had a heart attack due to the excitement and Joy at seeing JuanMa laid out… or he got arrested…” – LOL. I have to agree Tumbo gets out of hand dogging on PR fighters but you dish it out as well about Mexicans. Maybe it’s a Mexico-PR thing; it’s a bitter rivalry in boxing so I’m an outsider to that.

Posted June 20, 2013 5:52 pm 

Public Enemy

KangriPR – I have no problem with him Bashing PR fighters and calling them PR’s.. It’s part of the fun and messin around.. I do it as well but he always makes it about the Puerto Rican People.. and as much as I don’t like it I have to give him a taste of his own Medicine.. Ugly sht but what can you do? sit there and take that ugly garbage? I have never ever seen Mex, FA or any others do that ugly sht.. you’ll see some fake names doing it.. but you can always tell its him…

Posted June 20, 2013 7:01 am 


True… Tumbo has some good posts but his PR bashing is obsessive at the least.

Posted June 19, 2013 10:20 pm 

Public Enemy

FA – tumbo hasn’t been around since JuanMa got KO’d, I think the fker had a heart attack due to the excitement and Joy at seeing JuanMa laid out… or he got arrested…

Posted June 19, 2013 7:23 pm 

Public Enemy

FA – There are some things I agree with tumbo what I don’t like about the guy is his obssesive need to put down the Puerto Rican people when one our Puerto Rican fighters beats one of his Mexican Fighters… you never see Mex or you do that… I also agree with tumbo that these guys, Marquez, Escobedo and JuanMa should not have agreed to fight their opponents when they came in overweight but that’s easier said then done when someone is waving a few hundred thousand Dollars in your face..

Posted June 19, 2013 7:21 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“as tumbo said when I said JuanMa ko’d two mexicans “Those were two Cab drivers” which they were.. JuanMa has no real fights to get him up to speed since the salido fights and he only had 5 weeks since his last fight.” – PE has agreed with a Te Tumbo post. The sky has fallen.

Posted June 19, 2013 3:26 pm 

Jimmy the Jig

Is that FM sleepin and sheet on the mat after Can KO him??

Posted June 19, 2013 9:59 am 

Public Enemy

Ghost – as tumbo said when I said JuanMa ko’d two mexicans “Those were two Cab drivers” which they were.. JuanMa has no real fights to get him up to speed since the salido fights and he only had 5 weeks since his last fight.. all he did over those 5 weeks was work on getting his weight down which he did whille Garcia didn’t… not too cool

Posted June 19, 2013 7:43 am 

Public Enemy

Tito Trinidad had one punch KO power in Both hands.. stop a totally unhurt or tired fighter dead in his tracks with one Shot.. you don’t get that from loading your wraps.. what you get from loading your wraps with Cement is the ability to pummel your unsuspecting opponent over many rounds until they can’t continue as we saw with MargACheato vs Cotto and vs Cintron.. we also saw that in Chavez Sr vs Meldrick Taylor and vs Camacho Sr… Emmanuelle steward said it best when asked about Tito’s power and some extra gauze and tape.. “If you think you can get one punch KO Power from some extra gauze and tape you know nothing about Boxing” Well Said Manny, rest in peace…

Posted June 19, 2013 7:40 am 


Dino what are u talking about? Juanita had two fights since getting ko by salido

Posted June 19, 2013 2:32 am 


With a tune-up fight or not… Juanma Lopez’s ass was cooked.

Nothing a tune up could do for him because he’s too easy to hit, and he met a master.

Posted June 19, 2013 1:40 am 


PE- exactly, well said… out of respect they stick with the guys who were there from the beginning knowing it is not in their best interest at the elite level.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:35 pm 


I said it too when this fight was first made, JUANMA should of had a tune-up fight. TKOed twice back to back then a year lay off, come on man, someone failed this young man.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:58 pm 

Public Enemy

MMendoza – Puerto Rico has very good trainers like most Boxing Nations but to get to the Next Level you have to seek out the Elite Boxing Trainers and unfortunately alot of these PR kids coming in Boxing see their Trainers as family or father figures.. it’s hard for them to seek out other trainers.. its not like in the US where it’s almost more of a business thing from the Beginning.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:33 pm 


PUBLIC ENEMY: I have to agree with you on that PR does not have any trainers worth mentioning. If Juanma wants a remake of career, he needs to fly out of there and fire his trainer. After that, he can look at the list of excellent trainers out here in the U.S. continent. Heck, even an European trainer would be okay at this point. Right now, he got zero everything. No way he can go on unless he wants to be a punching pillow some boxer uses to get out his frustration. Sad but true. PR has got to be the goofiest place for any boxer to train over there — too much real fun going on. Even Cotto leaves that place for the U.S. to train.

Posted June 18, 2013 6:58 pm 

Public Enemy

Garcia needs to just move up to 130lbs and take on those guys.. he seems to have the necessary power and skills to be a top contender… who is he going to fight at 126lbs?? Abner Mares??? good fight but I don’t like seeing Mex vs Mex or PR vs PR because it just doesn’t have the same type of Ferver you get when its Mex vs someother group or PR vs some other group…

Posted June 18, 2013 6:55 pm 

Public Enemy

Titopa – JuanMa was dead on his feet, Zero Power and Zero balance.. he lost that fight when he agreed to 126lbs and 5 weeks to lose the weight.. Garcia looked very sharp and strong.. I didn’t like his statement that he will not move to 130lbs but try again at 126lbs.. I think its a mistake.. he cannot have another night of not making the Weight.. it’s already been two times…

Posted June 18, 2013 6:53 pm 

Public Enemy

FA – thanks for agreeing with me. the Funny thing is that Tito Trinidad actually did move and try to Box.. he was agressive and pushed forward but he had head movement and had pin point shots.. not these wild winging wide shots we saw in JuanMa… What people forget is that Tito Trinidad was a Marathon Runner and had great endurance in his Matches.. as for the power it was the once in a generational power you mention that doesn’t came arount too often.. so these young guys are trying to be something they just cannot be.. but you never know, just when we least expect it we may get surprised and see the next Macho Camacho, Tito Trinidad or Chavez Sr… that’s what we’re all waiting for…

Posted June 18, 2013 6:51 pm 


Garcia has the PERFECT gameplan…he made Lopez walk into ALL of his power shots, while Juanma reached, Garcia threw effortless punches that landed ON THE MONEY!

Posted June 18, 2013 6:01 pm 


Public Enemy – Even if he had Tito’s power he wouldn’t have been able to land it, the dude was swinging WILDLY, his feet where all over the place, his balance was TERRIBLE…nothing he threw looked the least bit dangerous.

Posted June 18, 2013 6:00 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Jack Dempsey – As much as I love Tito Trinidad he may be the cause of why so many post Trinidad fighters have gotten away from the Slick Boxing we saw in the old school Puerto Rican fighters like Hector Macho Camacho.” – PE is correct. This generation’s boxers from PR grew up idolizing Trinidad. It’s a natural instinct to mimic the top guys of their time. Problem is Trinidad who had once in a generation punching power, something you can’t replicate. Prior generations had slicksters like Camacho and Benitez as role models.

Posted June 18, 2013 5:32 pm 

fightin solves all

in the end we should all have huge respect for all these guys that get into that ring and risk their health to put on a good show for all of us fans. im a big paulie fan but i would never sit here and disrespect broner or anyone else that paulies in with because i am rooting for paulie. i respect broner as a huge talant in this sport and he deserves my and our respect for even getting in and trying. i know i def couldnt do it and 99.9% of the people on this site couldnt either. believe me ive tried, and im just not good at geting punched in the face more than once or twice!!!

Posted June 18, 2013 12:01 pm 

fightin solves all


Posted June 18, 2013 11:55 am 


There are many good prospects in Puerto Rico, Jayson Velez (the most experienced of all prospects), Jose Pedraza, Feliz Verdejo, the twins McJoe y McWilliams Arroyo, Karl Sosa, Jonathan ‘Bomba’ Gonzalez and many others

Posted June 18, 2013 11:55 am 


Danny will not get past the machine!

Posted June 18, 2013 11:39 am 


Mikey Garcia vs Danny Garcia… or Adrian Broner.. make it happen!! DO IT!.. just sayin’

Posted June 18, 2013 11:00 am 


Public Dummy no one reads your post save your time in posting try looking for a job

Posted June 18, 2013 10:28 am 


PE …you got to admit Juan ma looks like my newspaper on my driveway!!!! Lmao…..but in all seriousness 1 PR fighter that is underrated is Rosado if you guys would put ur pride down and get a good trainer you guys would be back in the mix….Joel Diaz, Robert Garcia, Nacho, Mayweathers, Roach,…ect

Posted June 18, 2013 9:58 am 

Public Enemy

Ray – not comparing the two skills and age wise just comparing the KO itself.. Montiel was more JuanMas age vs Nonito when he got Starched.. both the Montiel and Morales KO’s were alot worse but both are continuing with their Boxing careers…

Posted June 18, 2013 8:31 am 


Comparing an aging legend like Eric Morales losing to a young Danny Garcia cannot be compared to the annihialation of JuanaMa by Mikey Garcia. JuanaMa would have probably lost even to Eric Morales with his flawed defense. To compare the 2 is insulting.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:29 am 

Jonn E JaGozza

After Saturday, this should be the final end to Paulie, this is one fight he never should have taken … it’s his end .. PEACE … JEJ

Posted June 18, 2013 7:51 am 


Tark that was my point also ,great post

Posted June 18, 2013 2:50 am 


Viv says… “Garcia is not fundamental in the sense of the Mayweather’s, Ward’s, etc” … That’s not true in the slightest.. Garcia is one of the best fundamental fighters in Boxing. He’s in the Top-10 for sure.

Comparing Garcia to Mayweather and Ward.. They have more prestige at this point but Garcia is a better puncher than either one.. If Ward had to face a mentally focused, confident, and ambitious Andre Dirrell you’d see some competition at 168.. As it is Ward is the only good boxer there right now.. Garcia is the only masterful boxer at his weight. Mares would not be competition for him. If he could fight Donaire or Rigondeaux there’d be a better answer for the public, but I don’t see that happening soon. He’s a great fighter and he’s no flash in the pan like Lopez.. He’ll be around for a long time.

Posted June 18, 2013 2:23 am 


PE- to be honest, I didn’t expect a change. I mean, he made no adjustments after Mtagwa or after the 1st Salido fight. No strategy… zero adjustments… horrendous defense. To top it off, Mikey Garcia is a beast. Smart, quick, sharp, with a ton of pop and an excellent corner. JuanMa’s chances were slim to to none. Its too late for him to make any noise in the sport, he had an opportunity after the first Salido fight and didn’t capitalize. His time has passed…

Posted June 17, 2013 10:41 pm 

Public Enemy

KangrPR – It is mind blowing that after almost a full year after the Salido fights you would think that JuaMas trainers would’ve been trying to get the guy to work on any kind of defense and what does he do the second the bell rings? comes straight at Garcia as if once again he believes he’s the second coming of Tito Trinidad and does not have to worry about getting hit because one of his shots will end the fight??? with ZERO FKN DEFENSE..NONE!!! LOL hopefully this humiliating KO wakes him dafk UP!!!

Posted June 17, 2013 10:30 pm 


…sorry if I left out any trainers, I could have kept going. Truth is, the trainers in PR are simply not as good and there are no solid nutritionist or strength coaches. Sad but True.

Posted June 17, 2013 10:26 pm 


For as much talent as Puerto Rico has, I feel the biggest problem is the trainers. Most of the time it is the Trainer that does not want to leave PR to train. PR is a tiny Island with a ton of distractions especially if you are a young promising boxing prospect or star. There is literally no where to hide. I have always felt that the young PR boxers should look outwards for solid trainers… whether it be in MX or the States. Freddy, R Garcia, Mayweather, Shields, Nacho…. why not?? Again, they chose to be complacent training on the Island and for as much natural talent that they might have they are not getting quality sparring or getting pushed to the limit. This will always be an issue…

Posted June 17, 2013 10:24 pm 


“The last guy Paulie fought was damned abysmal — since an old Mosley whipped him.” Mosley beat Cano by two points on all the judges score cards. The way you talk about him Tark one would think Shane beat Cano into the ground. Paulie broke his right hand in the 4th round against Cano. But he finished the fight. Mikey Garcia got a busted nose against Salido and the fight was stopped because of it. Don’t be so quick to rag on Paulie.

Posted June 17, 2013 10:23 pm 

Public Enemy

Jack Dempsey – As much as I love Tito Trinidad he may be the cause of why so many post Trinidad fighters have gotten away from the Slick Boxing we saw in the old school Puerto Rican fighters like Hector Macho Camacho.. Because Tito Trinidad was so successful at KO’ing his Opponents with either hand, he became the hero and Idol of alot of the up and coming Boxers who all wanted to be the next Tito Trinidad and started focusing on Power Punching and KO’s instead of the Slick Boxing that brought us so much success.. JuanMa is a perfect example of this, no slick Boxing just tries to plow forward and KO his opponents.. who was his idol? Tito Trinidad.. who was Paulie Malinagni, Prince Hamed, Shambai Mitchels, Chop Chop Corley’s idol? Hector Macho Camacho.. all slick boxers… Puerto Rican Boxers need to get back to what came naturaly to them Slick Boxing.. and stop trying to be the Next Tito Trinidad….

Posted June 17, 2013 10:16 pm 


“frankly we were talking retirement for him before he ran into a lucky break with Senchenko.”Who’s “we?” Lucky break? Wow! I wonder why none of the other top welterweight contenders or champions didn’t go after that “lucky break?” Hatton went after it and found out it wasn’t so lucky after all. I bet you picked Hatton to win that bout didn’t you? No offense, it’s a sincere question. But I bet you did.

Posted June 17, 2013 10:13 pm 


two problems here. I believe the main problem is there pushing them too fast these kids are being fed to guys that are tough and are good veterans. the other problems is that they keep trying to slug it out, its not working especially against these granit chinned mexicans. theres alot of young fighters out there and a loss doesnt make you bad or washed up.

Posted June 17, 2013 9:38 pm 


What about Félix Verdejo?

Posted June 17, 2013 8:29 pm 


Boxtra…, Hatton was off for 3 years and didn’t have Floyd Sr. but for 2 fights. That’s not really enough time to learn anything. All that went out the window when Pacquiao hit him.. Hatton did well against Paulie because Paulie gives you all the time in the world to think. Nobody ever heard of the guy Paulie beat for his title.

Posted June 17, 2013 7:55 pm 


Bronner is AS skilled as Paulie the big difference is in the STRENGTH. Bronner is lot STRONGER than Paulie the REF will stop this one …..

Posted June 17, 2013 7:10 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Over the weekend Bonehead said that ungrateful women “need to be killed” on Twitter. I’m guessing his apologists will laugh that off by saying he’s just promoting himself as a villain a la Floyd, whose balls he’d like to shove in his mouth. Fact is he’s just a punk who wishes he was Floyd. He’s not even close.

Posted June 17, 2013 7:04 pm 

Fight Aficionado

I’ve been on the Garcia bandwagon since day 1 due to his technical skills and heavy hands. The only potential downside was his tendency of not letting his hands go. Well if Saturday is an indication, that’s no longer a problem. He’s getting primed up now and should be a staple at 126-130 for years to come.

Posted June 17, 2013 6:45 pm 


Garcia beat a shot fighter nothing special about that. Let him fight Rigo, Donaire or Gamboa then if he beat one of them he is the man.

Posted June 17, 2013 6:43 pm 

Public Enemy

Eric Morales looked much worse drapped over the lower rope lifeless when Puerto Rican Danny Garcia laid him out with a perfect left hook… LOL but Montiel had the funniest Spasmatic Reaction when Nontio Nonaire knockedhimdfkoutCold..

Posted June 17, 2013 6:29 pm 

Public Enemy

LOL – I’ve never seen you idiots so Happy.. YOu’d think you won the World Cup or something.. I thought JuanMa was a chinless bum? who was damaged.. So why all the cheering for Garcia like he just Beat The Worlds Best? It’s obvious that neither Salido nor JuanMa have been the same since their very brutal Matches.. then Garcia tricks JuanMa into starving down to 126lbs and decides he’s not going to even try to make the weight and you idiots are here acting like he’s just beaten Mike Tyson and the Next Great something?? LOL, what’s going to happen to Garcia when he has to face Broner, Matthysee, Danny Garcia, Gamboa, Rigo?? LOL, I guess beating a Rican is a huge achievment for you guys.. since you really haven’t beaten any top unbeaten P4P guy in a very long time.. Garcia really didn’t prove much beating an allready damaged, chinless weight drained Lopez… We’ll see what happens to Garcia down the road… I’ll be here like always when the next great Hyped Mexican implodes like Rios, Arreola, Ortiz, Arce, Montiel, Fernando Lardass, chavez cheato Jr. and soon very soon Ciinnabum.

Posted June 17, 2013 6:28 pm 


Paulie isn`t anywhere near as tricky as people make out.

He has a good jab, and judges distance quite well, but under pressure he has a pet move of just leaning down over to his right and turning his shoulder. That would be fine if the threat of a right hand came with it, but it doesn`t and so Hatton just went after his with chopping right hands or the left hook, while Khan just doubled up the jab or used the left hook and both of them caught him at will.

Once Broner starts walking him down, his left hook will do for Malignaggi.

Heman Ngoudjo had no trouble finding the magic man, netiher did Lovemore Ndou. Hatton, Khan and Cotto belted him all around the ring, and frankly we were talking retirement for him before he ran into a lucky break with Senchenko.

Broner will lose the first round or two then SPANK him and KO him by the midway point, unless he makes a deliberate point of torturing him for a few rounds more

Posted June 17, 2013 5:04 pm 


Well Malignaggi DID whip the last guy that stopped Hatton. In FACT Malignaggi was lined UP for a rematch with Hatton had he WON. But Hatton got stopped as I CORRECTLY predicted. ….And with TARK’s logic Malignaggi is very impressive. He stopped Senchenko in Senchenko’s house while Senchenko stopped Hatton in Hatton’s house. But I don’t subscribe to TARK’s logic. I use my own. Paulie is in for a SPANKING.

Posted June 17, 2013 4:27 pm 


Damn, Juanma looks completely laid out in that pic…..shhhhh I think juanma’s still sleeping

Posted June 17, 2013 3:30 pm 


Adding Triple G to the boxing IQ elite list.

Posted June 17, 2013 3:17 pm 


Viv writes…, “Take Broner a good 4-5 rounds before he finally realizes what he has to do to pin down a magician like Paulie.”

Paulie a magician??? It took Ricky Hatton 1 round to figure him out. He started outboxing Paulie from the 2nd on … How tricky was Ricky? The last guy Paulie fought was damned abysmal — since an old Mosley whipped him. Paulie never whipped anyone and Broner should be on his case quickly.

Posted June 17, 2013 2:49 pm 


Mikey should be Top 10 P4P and I SAID it long ago. He has more SKILLS than Bradley.

Posted June 17, 2013 1:04 pm 


@ Adrien, the writer stated that he is not as fundamentally sound as Mayweather and Ward. I think that is a fair assessment. Garcia is not even in his prime yet. He has time to prove otherwise. Also, to your question about who else can fit in that extremely technical boxer category, Rigondeaux is the very first comes to mind. Bhop too. These are guys who can absolutely neutralize all of their opponents strengths by measuring distance, sliping, rolling and countering. keeping their opponents off balance and confused. Just overall ring generalship.

Posted June 17, 2013 12:13 pm 


What about Jayson Velez he’s 20-0 with 15 ko’s and he’s born in Caguas… This article is missing something if you dont mention him. If he was mexican we definatly would have heard mention of him. So the day isnt that sad my brother…

Posted June 17, 2013 12:00 pm 


Garcia is not a ward and mayweather etc ..caliber ?? Lol …how come ? And who are those etc? Lol

Posted June 17, 2013 9:25 am 


Wallace- stop asking te tumbo for opinions on PR boxing…

Posted June 17, 2013 8:45 am 


What a great pic the puerto rican got flattened by Mikey the Mexican Garcia.

Posted June 17, 2013 7:30 am 

The Mad Scientist

Poor Enema, he’s been reduced to rooting against mexican fighters in order to keep watching the sport he supposedly loves..too bad his boyz can’t hang in any type of combat sports these dayz, they just don’t have what it takes for the trade.

Posted June 17, 2013 5:40 am 


Rest in piss juanmama, Mikey the great Mexican murderd u.

Posted June 17, 2013 4:28 am 

Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Look at that dead fish, JuanMono. RIP.

Posted June 17, 2013 3:40 am 

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