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TARK

Herron says.., “I know a lot of these guys and it’s incompetence…not corruption … They’re very good people—but wouldn’t know how to score a live prizefight if the scores were emailed to them.”

Nope!!! Good people learn how to do their jobs with a strong level of expertise.

Good boxers learn how to box much better than the average person can box.

Boxing is rife with corrupt judges on the take—and corrupt individuals who appoint corrupt judges to important fights. If a corrupt judge feels a round is “close enough” to go either way, they’re going to nudge the round into the column of the boxer they favor. That wrapping full of cash is going to arrive at the appointed time and place.

Joseph Herron.., “C.J. Ross will score Mayweather-Alvarez a draw.”

I don’t think one honest person in a hundred would score that fight a draw. But a professional judge in a ringside seat saw it that way? Ross was selected after all the controversy surrounding her outrageous Pacquiao-Bradley score. Why is that?

All this makes perfect sense.

I thought it was interesting that Dave Moretti gave Canelo 4 rounds; a couple of nudged rounds on his card … If the fight was reasonably close, Canelo would have been awarded the decision.

Posted April 30, 2014 2:40 pm 


Kid

Save your money! Watch the replay!

Posted April 30, 2014 11:45 am 


Anonymous

hidalg0.will you be at the WWE convention in june.

Posted April 30, 2014 10:24 am 


Kid

isn’t it strange when he said that he wants to safeguard his health? real fighters go inside the ring with the do or die mentality… i’m not against the health and welfare of the boxers but if you think of it, he hasn’t engaged himself in toe to toe wars to be really concerned about health… the WWE has taught him that an entertainer’s health wouldn’t be compromised in a staged event… people will still watch and there’s money to be made… so why accept real challenges when we can do inhouse and stage everything… everyone wins! from the fighter to the promoter to the adviser!

Posted April 30, 2014 5:03 am 


Kid

haymon will try to make mayweather immortal… hahaha! watch the replay folks! let me just remind you of what happened in the mayweather vs ortiz fiasco… the acting is so hilarious! remember joe cortez’s slow mo reaction??? he was too old to make the acting seemless!

Posted April 30, 2014 4:10 am 


Kid

the fight is rigged!!! watch the replay!

Posted April 30, 2014 3:31 am 


Boxtradamus

I’m probably the one poster you shouldn’t debate unless you like LOSSES. Other than that fire AWAY. Welcome!

Posted April 29, 2014 10:45 pm 


Boxtradamus

Fighting better Fighters does not make you the better Fighter. Malignaggi agrees with ME on that. Floyd is better than Bradley.

Posted April 29, 2014 10:43 pm 


sean patrick harrington

Box whats up man. Im new here any posters i should not debate with?

Posted April 29, 2014 10:30 pm 


sean patrick harrington

Bradley fights much better fighters period. I may be an amatuer but at least i have experience. Dont get all butt hurt.

Posted April 29, 2014 10:22 pm 


Boxtradamus

And that’s what makes you an AMATEUR. All EXPERTS agree with ME that Floyd is head and shoulders BETTER than Bradley. SO please learn more about Boxing.

Posted April 29, 2014 9:48 pm 


sean patrick harrington

Bradley is much better than floyd. Floyd cherry picks. Bradley fights the best!

Posted April 29, 2014 8:47 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Final thought on Maidana VS Floyd
Maidana has the will but not the skill to win

Posted April 29, 2014 7:06 pm 


Boxtradamus

I’m sure some of these guys are DRUNK when scoring the bout. One FOOL had Shumenov WINNING the Fight after LOSING almost every round and even getting dropped. That guy should be banned from scoring bouts for LIFE and he should never be let behind a wheel either. Because he clearly has BAD judgement.

Posted April 29, 2014 5:43 pm 


Joseph Herron

TARK: “You’re the crazy dude man. You’re OUT there in Zu Zu Land. If you’re dishonest and can influence the judges, why WOULDN’T you???

If you don’t believe Lewis-Holyfield I was fixed… If you don’t believe Hagler-Anteufermo I was fixed… If you don’t believe Pacquiao-Bradley I was fixed… If you don’t believe Whitaker-Chavez was fixed… If you don’t believe Lara-Williams was fixed … you’re nuts.”

Brother, you’re giving these judges too much credit. I know a lot of these guys and it’s incompetence…not corruption.

They’re very good people but wouldn’t know how to score a live prizefight if the scores were emailed to them.

Brother, it’s hard for people like you and I to comprehend, but there’s a serious flaw with the recruiting system within the commission.

The commissions aren’t very selective in who they choose.

Posted April 29, 2014 5:15 pm 


PEEJ

Why the hell would they fix the Bradley vs Pac I fight? Bradley is no ticket seller, has never sold many tickets in his life, the PPVs for that fight was not great. Why would they do that? Even the rematch did less sells than the first fight. So why would they do that?

Posted April 29, 2014 4:24 pm 


te tumbo

not to mention DLH v. Trinidud v. Mosley II.

Posted April 29, 2014 4:10 pm 


te tumbo

TARK, you forgot to mention Pacquiao* v. Marquez I, II, and III, Williams v. Martinez I, and the attempted robbery of Salido v. Lopez I . . . carry on . . .

Posted April 29, 2014 4:09 pm 


TARK

Joseph Herron.., You’re the crazy dude man. You’re OUT there in Zu Zu Land. If you’re dishonest and can influence the judges, why WOULDN’T you???

If you don’t believe Lewis-Holyfield I was fixed… If you don’t believe Hagler-Anteufermo I was fixed… If you don’t believe Pacquiao-Bradley I was fixed… If you don’t believe Whitaker-Chavez was fixed… If you don’t believe Lara-Williams was fixed … you’re nuts.

Open your eyes man… A 10-year-old could tell you who won those fights…

Sometimes the right winner is arrived at only because the fight was so damned lopsided — because the judges did everything they could to make the winner the loser, but couldn’t risk an outrageously scandalous score.

Just examine the Ward-Froch scores from the judges — next examine the Mayweather-Castillo II scores from the judges.. Then go back and examine the Tyson-Douglas scores from the judges.

Those were all flagrant attempts at robbery that were unsuccessful because the winner dominantly trashed the loser.

Do the boxers themselves ever throw fights??? They do, but that is much more rare… It’s generally the judges and referees that rob the boxers.

Posted April 29, 2014 3:44 pm 


Happyboy

Kid – I agree 100% with your matchmaking but don’t support your ( Rob Arum ) boycott.

Posted April 29, 2014 3:22 pm 


Happyboy

Hidalgo – ” Well, if you want to put all your eggs in one basket and throw it over a cliff, yeah ” other codes call it a World Cup/ Champion League football ( best vs best)

Posted April 29, 2014 3:07 pm 


Anonymous

hidalgo.did you train under the great tark by any chance.

Posted April 29, 2014 2:30 pm 


Joseph Herron

TARK: “TARK: Most fights aren’t fixed… But some ARE fixed…”

Not this crap again, TARK…please? One crazy person at a time!!

Posted April 29, 2014 2:23 pm 


Boxtradamus

Floyd is the GOAT and its not even close. This is his 11th CHAMP in his last 13 Fights. You can’t even name a guy who faced HALF as many CHAMPS in a 13 Fight Span. The guy is blowing EVERY Fighter who ever lived out of the water. Floyd’s on the MOON and no one else has even reached the Mountain Top yet.

Posted April 29, 2014 2:20 pm 


TARK

Herron.., “fights are not fixed.”

Most fights aren’t fixed… But some ARE fixed… to the extent ANY fight can be fixed — because if you beat a guy 12 rounds out of 12 by a wide margin every round — it’s pretty much impossible for the judges to give the fight to your opponent.

But if the fight is close enough… and sometimes even when it’s not… and the judges are in somebody’s pocket… They’re going to do everything possible to give the money guy’s fighter the fight … They want t secure their retirement as fast as possible.

Lara vs Williams was exhibit “A”

Posted April 29, 2014 2:11 pm 


Ok

Hidalg0 Top rank and Golden boy not happening no one is afraid of Manny its contracts stopping fights moron…

Posted April 29, 2014 10:46 am 


Anonymous

Another sad day for Pactards

“Yawn at anon….. Your so jealous.

Floyd. GOAT”

It’s you’re not “your” … you retard. LOL

Posted April 29, 2014 3:21 am 


Kid

the fight is fixed! i agree with the boycott!

This is how a PPV should look like if the promoters

got together, lets push for this!!!

“Pound for Pound Number 1″

main event = mayweather vs pacquiao

undercard 1. porter vs bradley
undercard 2. thurman vs provodnikov
undercard 3. broner vs khan
undercard 4. marquez vs maidana

Posted April 29, 2014 1:44 am 


Another sad day for Pactards

Pacsuck is scared of Porter

Posted April 29, 2014 1:33 am 


Another sad day for Pactards

I just can’t wait for pacroid to fight Marquez for like the 8th time.
And a rematch with RIOS. Because he
Won the WBC bronze title.

Posted April 29, 2014 1:25 am 


Another sad day for Pactards

Yawn at anon….. Your so jealous.

Floyd. GOAT

Posted April 29, 2014 1:23 am 


Anonymous

Boxtradamus

“Floyd is the GOAT!!!”

Total crap, he’s not even close. But he does smell like a goat.

Posted April 29, 2014 12:23 am 


Kid

This is how a PPV should look like if the promoters got together:

“Pound for Pound Number 1″

main event = mayweather vs pacquiao

undercard 1. porter vs bradley
undercard 2. thurman vs provodnikov
undercard 3. broner vs khan
undercard 4. marquez vs maidana

Posted April 29, 2014 12:14 am 


Kid

mayweather is haymon’s puppet at this point, and all the money talk that haymon has put into his brain has consumed him… so regardless what we say here, it doesn’t really matter because at the end of the day mayweather’s a billionaire. it doesn’t really matter to him if great fights are made…

Posted April 29, 2014 12:01 am 


Kid

i’ll watch to see how the theatrics play out and prove my point to you guys after! i will eat crow when i’m proven wrong… i take feedback constructively but i voice my opinions out loud when i smell something fishy! so its ok what you say against as everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. just sharing my thoughts!

Posted April 28, 2014 11:58 pm 


Kid

i’m not buying the ppv! i’m watching the replay! or i’ll watch it at friend’s house or something… i’ll definitely not shell out my money for a WWE simulation spectacle!

Posted April 28, 2014 11:52 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid, you sound crazy…fights are not fixed.

If you truly believe that the fights are fixed, then don’t watch. Because you sound like you’re a little touched in the head, brother.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:46 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “this also the same case in the upcoming mayweather fiasco…how come khan isn’t fighting broner? when initially mayweather wanted khan fighting broner in the undercard… because khan just recently signed under haymon… would haymon allow a newly sign khan to lose in his first outing???”

Yes he would…as in the case of John Molina Junior this past Saturday night…brother, you’re trying too hard to uncover a monkey in the wrench.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:45 pm 


Kid

They have two title holders competing on the same night and the same card, but not against each other.

this also the same case in the upcoming mayweather fiasco…
how come khan isn’t fighting broner? when initially mayweather wanted khan fighting broner in the undercard… because khan just recently signed under haymon… would haymon allow a newly sign khan to lose in his first outing??? same goes with broner… would haymon allow broner to lose again? mayweather is aging and broner would fit right in his spot after he leaves… this is what careful match making does… or should i say fixing! why do the broner vs khan now when it can be done later… i’m making money now that they’re not fighting, i’ll just delay that fight for another day… rip off!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 11:37 pm 


Joseph Herron

You too, Happy Boy.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:35 pm 


Joseph Herron

Happyboy: “as a boxing fan I would like it to be like that but what Bob was doing with Lomacheko & Pac man 8th div title I beg to differ”

Sounds like you drank the anti-Bob Arum kool-aid, brother…every promoter throughout history has shown evidence of being self serving.

Bob is not the anti-christ most Floyd fans have made him out to be.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:35 pm 


Happyboy

Joe – will do, take it easy JH.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:34 pm 


Joseph Herron

Also, check out what the WBA is doing with the Featherweight division on May 31st. They have two title holders competing on the same night and the same card, but not against each other.

It’s crazy!!

Posted April 28, 2014 11:15 pm 


Joseph Herron

Happyboy: “as a boxing fan I would like it to be like that but what Bob was doing with Lomacheko & Pac man 8th div title I beg to differ. Sulaiman did the same with canelo & Chavez jnr when he handed them WBC titles.”

It doesn’t stop there, brother…that’s why I really don’t like to put emphasis on titles. Do your research on how Omar Figueroa got his belt and who Arakawa beat to get the fight with Omar.

It’s disgusting. Arakawa beat a fighter who was 0-1 to get the title shot against Figueroa…it’s garbage.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:11 pm 


Happyboy

Joe – ” …But fighters make the titles…not the other way around.”
as a boxing fan I would like it to be like that but what Bob was doing with Lomacheko & Pac man 8th div title I beg to differ. Sulaiman did the same with canelo & Chavez jnr when he handed them WBC titles.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:03 pm 


Joseph Herron

Happyboy: “Joe – are we not currently in this state due to Top rank pushing their weight around when they had all top fighters so GBP is simply returning the favour.”

This has been happening since the beginning of boxing, brother.

This is no big deal, Happyboy. The only difference between now and then, is the advent of social media.

Promotional wars will come and go.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:02 pm 


Happyboy

Joe – are we not currently in this state due to Top rank pushing their weight around when they had all top fighters so GBP is simply returning the favour.

Posted April 28, 2014 10:51 pm 


Joseph Herron

Happyboy: “Joe – my point is I would ruther watch a mismatch between two champions ( Floyd vs Maidana, Pac vs Hutton) than Pac vs Rios( a great fighter vs an average fighter both coming off losses )”

I understand what you meant now…thanks for clarifying. But fighters make the titles…not the other way around.

Would you rather see Marquez versus Alvarado, or Sturm versus Soliman?

Posted April 28, 2014 10:40 pm 


Joseph Herron

Happyboy: “Joe – as an unbias source, are you saying GBP blew Pac vs May?”

LOL…how did you reach that conclusion?

In the past, GBP had no problem working with any other promoters, including Top Rank…hence DLH vs. Pac, or Hatton vs. Pac.

I’m merely referring to the current state of the promotional cold war.

Golden Boy has no interest working outside of their own stable currently.

Posted April 28, 2014 10:37 pm 


Happyboy

Joe – as an unbias source, are you saying GBP blew Pac vs May?

Posted April 28, 2014 10:31 pm 


Happyboy

Joe – my point is I would ruther watch a mismatch between two champions ( Floyd vs Maidana, Pac vs Hutton) than Pac vs Rios( a great fighter vs an average fighter both coming off losses )

Posted April 28, 2014 10:24 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “the business side of boxing as discussed in the earlier thread, i completely understand”

You don’t understand the half of it, brother. If you did, you would realize that great match-ups are being put together outside of the Golden Boy stable.

Posted April 28, 2014 10:18 pm 


Kid

the business side of boxing as discussed in the earlier thread, i completely understand… its just hard for me to accept that great fights aren’t being made in the fighters’ prime state.. the longer you delay these great matchups the more older these fighters get, the more battle worn they get fighting stablemates… when the time comes that a fight is made, one fighter has all the advantages…

Posted April 28, 2014 10:14 pm 


Kid

it wouldn’t happen because GBP and Top Rank won’t work together… but i’m not losing hope… oscar has extended the olive branch as quoted in an article that i read… i’m optimistic about that… but for now any inhouse fighting happening, i don’t trust…

Posted April 28, 2014 10:10 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “joseph herron – pac could have fought somebody else over at the GBP stable over rios… it would have generated more interest…”

LOL…please explain to me how that could have happened since you’re so well acclimated with the business side of boxing…LOL

Posted April 28, 2014 10:06 pm 


Kid

joseph herron – pac could have fought somebody else over at the GBP stable over rios… it would have generated more interest…

Posted April 28, 2014 10:02 pm 


Kid

Maidana vs Floyd may be a mismatch in terms of skills but a unification bout is a match.

i agree with this point, but now that pac has the WBO belt wouldn’t you be wanting the winner of this to fight pac next… or would you push for mayweather to delay that fight and go after porter instead because porter is with haymon???

Posted April 28, 2014 10:00 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “yes pac vs rios is crappy!!! i don’t deny that because promoters don’t work with other promoters! thats my point!”

You’re wrong, Kid…there is only one promoter who currently doesn’t work with any other promoter in boxing…that’s Golden Boy. Every other promoter in boxing is open to working with everyone else.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:58 pm 


Joseph Herron

Happyboy: “Come on, Pac vs Rios was a mismatch. Klitschko fights are mismatches. keep it real now.”

C’mon, brother…now you’re beginning to sound like a fanboy again.

You can’t criticize Pac/Rios or any Klitschko bout without scrutinizing the upcoming Mayweather/Maidana fight as well.

It’s the exact same principle. The best fighters shouldn’t be penalized for being the best.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:56 pm 


Happyboy

Maidana vs Floyd may be a mismatch in terms of skills but a unification bout is a match.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:55 pm 


Kid

yes pac vs rios is crappy!!! i don’t deny that because promoters don’t work with other promoters! thats my point!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:54 pm 


Kid

wasn’t the thurman vs diaz a crappy fight! diaz was put in there to lose!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:52 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “that’s why i’m here clamoring and getting the buy in of fans like you… because something is really wrong!”

I don’t have a dog in the hunt, brother…I’m a journalist, Holmes!! LOL

The only thing seriously wrong here is that fans like yourself have become fooled into thinking that complaining is a much more insightful way of looking at things.

Glass half full always works better, brother!! LOL

Posted April 28, 2014 9:52 pm 


Happyboy

Come on, Pac vs Rios was a mismatch. Klitschko fights are mismatches. keep it real now.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:51 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “joseph herron – why are you justifying the actions of these greedy people? we’re looking for solutions here to make these great fights happen… brother as a fan, what can you suggest for these fights to happen???”

Great match ups are happening, Kid…right under your complaining nose.

Please point out a crappy match-up in any main event during the month of May…I’ll be waiting.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:48 pm 


Happyboy

Fraud may – Mayweather “struggled” to a UD with Cotto winning 2 rounds at most. you smart.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:48 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “i’m doing this to encourage fans to voice out their sentiments that great fights aren’t being made! its because greedy people (in the form of promoters) block the way!”

Look at the boxing schedule for the month of May alone…there are great fights every week in May.

But I agree that one promotional organization has been putting mismatches lately on major network TV.

Al Haymon has been giving it to everyone “Berto” style!!LOL

Posted April 28, 2014 9:46 pm 


Kid

joseph herron – why are you justifying the actions of these greedy people? we’re looking for solutions here to make these great fights happen… brother as a fan, what can you suggest for these fights to happen??? will you just accept the fact that we will miss out on great and legitimate fights simply because these greedy people won’t work together? that’s why i’m here clamoring and getting the buy in of fans like you… because something is really wrong!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:45 pm 


Joseph Herron

Bustajay: “Let me testify that the rd by rd calling from Joseph is a timeless classic that hands down beats the on air TV broadcast crews….IMO”

Thank you, brother…your kind words truly humble me.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:44 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Joseph Herron

That’s nasty, Bustajay…or should I call you Bustanut from now on…LOL

Posted April 28, 2014 6:54 pm

LMAO
Sorry for the graphics but I would nut up if Maidana knocked Floyd off his feet. Anything can happen but this one knockdown would be heard across the world.

War Maidana

Posted April 28, 2014 9:40 pm 


Happyboy

Kid – I expect you to be as vocal when Pac vs JMM 5 is signed.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:40 pm 


Kid

i will do that @bustajay!!! then i will watch the replay! hahaha!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:39 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Joseph Herron

Like I stated on last night’s program, you guys can always tune into a special radio presentation of this Saturday night’s fight right here!

718-506-1506…starts at 10PM EST/7PM PST!!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:27 pm

Let me testify that the rd by rd calling from Joseph is a timeless classic that hands down beats the on air TV broadcast crews….IMO

Posted April 28, 2014 9:37 pm 


Kid

i’m doing this to encourage fans to voice out their sentiments that great fights aren’t being made! its because greedy people (in the form of promoters) block the way!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:35 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “ggg vs mayweather, martinez vs mayweather, cotto vs mayweather rematch, pacquiao vs mayweather, provodnikov vs mayweather… why can’t these fights be made??? i just want to see mayweather matched with anyone from outside the GBP/haymon stable!!!”

If you owned your own business, would you choose to work with someone outside of your organization if you didn’t have to?

Posted April 28, 2014 9:35 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “the hate comes from the fact that the so called “Greatest” doesn’t engage himself in legitimate challenges!”

Every fight is a challenge…especially at the age of 37.

Marcos Maidana against any other Welterweight fighter would be an even money fight or a two to three point spread either way.

It’s not Mayweather’s fault that he’s heavily favored going into Saturday night’s fight.

Keep in mind, Abner Mares was about a 14 to 1 favorite going into his last fight with Jhonny Gonzalez.

How did that play out?

Posted April 28, 2014 9:33 pm 


Kid

ggg vs mayweather, martinez vs mayweather, cotto vs mayweather rematch, pacquiao vs mayweather, provodnikov vs mayweather… why can’t these fights be made??? i just want to see mayweather matched with anyone from outside the GBP/haymon stable!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:32 pm 


Happyboy

Kid – but wise enough to pay to watch Lomachenko get his 2nd title shot in his 2nd pro fight.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:31 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid, you truly are ignorant if you think fights are fixed, brother.

Why are you wasting your time on a boxing forum if you truly believe these fights are fixed?

Makes no sense.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:30 pm 


Joseph Herron

BTW…Wlad’s trainer, Johnathon Banks will be on tomorrow night’s program…looking forward to sharing the air with one of the coolest cats in boxing!!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:28 pm 


Kid

yes i’m indeed ignorant, but a wise one coz i will not spend my hard earned money watching a boxing match that is fixed! the hate comes from the fact that the so called “Greatest” doesn’t engage himself in legitimate challenges!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:28 pm 


Joseph Herron

Like I stated on last night’s program, you guys can always tune into a special radio presentation of this Saturday night’s fight right here!

718-506-1506…starts at 10PM EST/7PM PST!!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:27 pm 


Happyboy

Hidalgo – you’re an idiot.

Posted April 28, 2014 9:27 pm 


Joseph Herron

Kid: “the fight is rigged – floyd will win!!!”

If ignorance is indeed bliss, why does Kid sound so pissed? LOL

Posted April 28, 2014 9:20 pm 


Kid

i will just watch the replay to spot the dubious theatrics in this upcoming fiasco. come’on boys, wasn’t the acting so obvious in the mayweather vs ortiz match… even joe cortez’s acting was so sloppy… haha! so WWE!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:20 pm 


Kid

they’re all making it sound like maidana’s legit… i admire maidana’s will and guts but he’s gotta take one for the team! he will come out with guns blazing as was hyped then he will run out of steam and floyd will knock him out! scripted like the WWE!!! hahaha! i don’t trust inhouse fighting! same goes on the Top Rank side… fixed fights! i even feel that bradley was made to sell the pacquiao fight for pac to get back into the mayweather bandwagon…

Posted April 28, 2014 9:15 pm 


Kid

the fight is rigged – floyd will win!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 9:12 pm 


Fraud May

Happyboy- You are missing half a brain. Completely missed the point. I guess common sense doesn’t run in your family. Pacquiao obliterated Cotto. Mayweather struggled with Cotto. See my point? Oh wait… you dont. You got your blinders on.

Posted April 28, 2014 8:45 pm 


Fraud May

happyboy- you are missing half a brain. Completely missed the point and common sense bypassed your family. You missed my point.

Posted April 28, 2014 8:35 pm 


Happyboy

Fraud May – Pacquiao got KTFO by 40yr old JMM, easy. See why you should take a test. bahahahahahahahaha.

Posted April 28, 2014 8:18 pm 


Fraud May

Pacquioa vs Maidana. Who do you think wins that fight? See, its that simple. Thats why Mayweather picked Maidana. Same goes for Pacquioa vs Khan. Who wins that one? The answer should be obvious.

Posted April 28, 2014 8:07 pm 


Happyboy

Hidalgo – Floyd is as dedicated to his craft as you are to hating everything he does, hoes like you motivate him to exceed his limits. You are the fire that burns in his belly and create such a marvel to watch. For 18 years his thanked you and will not fail to do so again on May 3rd.

Posted April 28, 2014 7:53 pm 


Tomato Can

You all are sick!

Posted April 28, 2014 7:07 pm 


Proud African

I wish I could play maywethers skin flute umm yummy

Posted April 28, 2014 7:06 pm 


Joseph Herron

That’s nasty, Bustajay…or should I call you Bustanut from now on…LOL

Posted April 28, 2014 6:54 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Hidalg0

And remember, my prediction for the fight is that Floyd will win, but he’ll get knocked down at least once in the fight. Maidana’s gonna catch him then we’ll see what an expert bicycle rider Floyd really is.

Posted April 28, 2014 12:42 pm

OMG…..I would shoot baby GRAVEY all over my packed house in excitement if Floyd goes knocked off his feet at least once in this fight. I have pondered the thought of how his corner would react and I am concerned if that did play out we would see some “fan man” Flashbacks.

If Floyd goes down, not just a glove touching the canvas, I would be impressed.

I love little Maidana and my heart is roaring for him but I know he has bitten off more than he or Garcia can prepare for with Money Money.

Posted April 28, 2014 6:52 pm 


Jb221

Manny Pacquiao, Top Rank discuss contract extension
Welp no mayweather fight why would he go back to bob arum going to lie and say mayweather doesn’t want to fight

Posted April 28, 2014 5:39 pm 


Ok

Yeah tomato Marcos wont be effective like he was with baby Broner, Look for Floyd to set the pace early Maidana will be getting hit at will. And will become gun shy like so many others who fight Floyd the problem is his counters are so fast. So everytime you miss you getting tagged with over hand rights and hooks, He can stop anyone with the counter hooks that he rarely throws, he is unbeatable right now only hope is if he keeps fighting and gets old otherwise no stopping….

Posted April 28, 2014 1:54 pm 


Tomato Can

Hmmm, my prediction is Mayweather will not get knocked down, but he will get hit a couple of times, and go on to win a lopsided decision and possible late round tko.

Posted April 28, 2014 1:48 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Molina and the Machine….fight of the year thus far bro.

I love little Maidana but man he has limited opps to land and baffle Floyd. Floyd will keep Maidana guessing and looking for the majority of this fight. I am glad to hear you will be calling the fight…too bad my house will be packed , but will catch it on the replay as your rd by rd is a much missed tradition in boxing.

Man Joseph your Floyd impression is spot on bro.

Also great to hear the insight from you, JK and Ronnie.

Posted April 28, 2014 12:25 pm 


moonshineman

Look at the lips on that boy. Must be at least 35 ibs PSI.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:46 am 


PEEJ

Only reason Golden Boy and Top Rank will semi work with each other for the Russel vs Solenko or what ever his name is because Russel is the mandatory fighter. The fight will probably go to purse bid and whom ever wins it wins the right to promote the fight. Same thing happened with Lara vs Vanes. That is the only way they will work together. All this talk of Arum and Oscar getting along is just talk.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:37 am 


Anonymous

Kid

drug testing is one, i’m pretty sure fixing is another! he did state in the article you posted the he is holding back on some other things… he also indirect cited the bad side of a monopolized sport… that’s why i’m pushing for these promoters to work and come up with great fights! it may not be financially healthy because they need to share in the profit but fights aren’t happening when they’re supposed to!!!
Posted April 28, 2014 4:37 am

You wouldn’t share in the profits if you had a better product, would you?

the NFL has a sharing point system to some level but not many WINNING owners seem to like it because it makes some of the other owners lazy. They don’t have to develop their team and players because money is funded their way no matter what. So while a “WINNER” as a Owner is spending money in developing his brand, business, and players, he now has to “share” some of his hard earned money to some lazy bum owner who isn’t doing anything because he is happy just collecting.

Forget that. What’s next, you want the fighters to share in the profits?

Floyd left Arum because he felt Arum wasn’t doing his part to build up his brand the way he saw fit. Floyd started to do his own thing, building up his own brand, was doing all the work and said you know what? I’m doing his job, I don’t need him. So not only isn’t Arum paying me what I am worth he is failing to bring me the money and fights I want.

If Floyd didn’t do that he would never be where he is today. You go after what you are worth and can get and that is that.

Posted April 28, 2014 11:03 am 


Anonymous

Kid

with floyd comes money and i don’t blame all the fighters wanting that… but his recent fights are all with stablemates! that i can’t accept. business aside i would appreciate him more if he was to face fighters out of the GBP/haymon stable… there’s this fight between a GBP fighter vs a Top Rank fighter underway… lomancheko vs russel… if this were to materialize I can see a little development.
Posted April 28, 2014 4:49 am

Stablemate? Not really. Just because you are under the same promotional/management banner doesn’t mean you are stable-mates. It just means you have little options out there for who to manage your career so more are choosing the best option which does happen to be Al Haymon and Golden Boy at the moment.

There is more victory overall in beating someone like Floyd than throwing a fight. You not only will make HUGE money in the rematch but you also make history by beating “The Man.” And you make even more money outside the ring because of new marketing ventures…as long as you don’t blow it by throwing it all away like Buster Douglas did.

It would be great for all the promotional companies to work together but it doesn’t always work out like that.

Posted April 28, 2014 10:58 am 


Anonymous

Kid

pac vs floyd will only happen when pac signs with haymon! and when haymon has all the cash cows he, monopolizes the industry… he can dictate the outcome of the fights however he chooses! so the floyd vs pac fight will never push through as long as pac is with arum…
Posted April 28, 2014 5:59 am

Haymon gets his fighters paid though. Not only paid but they are allowed to see the numbers. I hear they actually get every penny they bring in for their part. Unlike some others where you generate 10 million for yourself but only get paid 3 million which you later find out that you only receive 1 million in the bank.
Arum has been accused of not getting fighters what they are worth so its hard if you are a fighter not to sign with Al Haymon.

Posted April 28, 2014 10:53 am 


Anonymous

By the way, I too am not for this fight and feel it is another wasted fight just like Robert G. fight was.

The best form of protest against this ongoing show is to not buy the fight.

And that goes for any of them.

Posted April 28, 2014 10:49 am 


Anonymous

Floyd’s issue

The fight is a joke. Maidana lost 2 years ago against Devon Alexander, 90-100, 90-100, 91-99 on the scorecards. He lost to Kotelnik and Khan. Floyd is the biggest joke on Earth, his fans and people buying his PPV fights are worse. Joke fight, don’t buy it folks, don’t get cheat….Maidana is made for Floyd to easily beat him by running and potshotting him…
Posted April 28, 2014 8:24 am

What you were two years ago isn’t necessarily how you are today. With Better training from Garcia and Ariza, better sparring sessions and motivation…you can certainly be better.

That’s what is argued with Marciano’s opponent like Jersey Joe Walcott who was a known “journeyman” who supposedly wasn’t able to train properly for a long time because he didn’t have the funds nor the time. That’s also the case with Rocky Balboa. Hahaha.

Anyway, training can make a world of difference. We’ve seen it time and time again with fighters over the years no matter the level. Great ones going down because they stop training at a high level and average to good ones over-achieving or reaching their potential because they finally had the right mindset, funds, and training.

We’ve also seen upsets with brawlers vs. boxers.
Hatton vs. Tszyu
Mayorga vs. Forrest
Foreman vs. Norton

Are the odds in Maidana’s favor given Floyd is said to always take his opponents seriously, is well funded, has high quality sparring etc?
Mmm… Odds are always going to be in Floyd’s favor even though he is an aging veteran who is more susceptible to lose each day.

Posted April 28, 2014 10:47 am 


Floyd’s issue

The fight is a joke. Maidana lost 2 years ago against Devon Alexander, 90-100, 90-100, 91-99 on the scorecards. He lost to Kotelnik and Khan. Floyd is the biggest joke on Earth, his fans and people buying his PPV fights are worse. Joke fight, don’t buy it folks, don’t get cheat….Maidana is made for Floyd to easily beat him by running and potshotting him…

Posted April 28, 2014 8:24 am 


4723

Kid… KID….. KID….!!!!!! You are the only one on here I have ever seen that gets it… finally. All of these dopes on here, one after another, arguing over weather as if u t is real. They just do b t get it.

Posted April 28, 2014 7:38 am 


Happyboy

Kid – you have a problem with fights between boxers from the same stable, yet have no problem with a fighter given two title shots in two pro fights, what are you about?

Posted April 28, 2014 7:13 am 


Happyboy

” the lomancheko vs russel fight outcome would determine which promotional company is all hype!!!” loma has been handed 2 title shots in 2 pro fights, what more needs to be said.

Posted April 28, 2014 6:58 am 


Kid

does maidana deserve the fight? yes! but it will happen without integrity! does pac deserve the fight yes! but it will not happen because of the business side of boxing!

Posted April 28, 2014 6:01 am 


Kid

pac vs floyd will only happen when pac signs with haymon! and when haymon has all the cash cows he, monopolizes the industry… he can dictate the outcome of the fights however he chooses! so the floyd vs pac fight will never push through as long as pac is with arum…

Posted April 28, 2014 5:59 am 


gensandiehard

i thought all the haters will give props to who ever win on bradley vs pac. many doubts that pac could recover and the odds was 2-1 in favor of pac..i believed haters will forever be haters..im a boxing fan, i give credit to whom the credit is due…maidana is not the best fight for mayweather but he has a chance to win.. i like fmj as a boxer, im one of his avid follower, but his decision for not fighting pac is very frustrating.. i still believe pac and fmj will fight on 2015 as their finally….

Posted April 28, 2014 5:47 am 


Kid

the lomancheko vs russel fight outcome would determine which promotional company is all hype!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 4:51 am 


Kid

with floyd comes money and i don’t blame all the fighters wanting that… but his recent fights are all with stablemates! that i can’t accept. business aside i would appreciate him more if he was to face fighters out of the GBP/haymon stable… there’s this fight between a GBP fighter vs a Top Rank fighter underway… lomancheko vs russel… if this were to materialize I can see a little development.

Posted April 28, 2014 4:49 am 


Kid

drug testing is one, i’m pretty sure fixing is another! he did state in the article you posted the he is holding back on some other things… he also indirect cited the bad side of a monopolized sport… that’s why i’m pushing for these promoters to work and come up with great fights! it may not be financially healthy because they need to share in the profit but fights aren’t happening when they’re supposed to!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 4:37 am 


Anonymous

GSP:

GSP called it quits following his unsuccessful effort to improve drug testing in mixed martial arts and a brutal split decision win at UFC 167. Now he’s speaking out against the UFC ‘monopoly’ in the sport.

“The only thing I want to say is, I wanted to do something to help those who are honest in the sport. Believe me or not, I never took drugs in my life. I’ll take a lie detector test, I don’t care. I’m for anti-doping tests. I think it’s a big problem in the sport.

“This is a relatively new sport. There’s one organization that has a monopoly, so the fighters don’t have much power. They can’t really talk because if one says what he thinks, he will get punished.

“If we want the sport to be accepted worldwide, like baseball, hockey, football, soccer, I believe [drug testing] is the thing to do. I think it’s just a matter of time before it happens, it’s just that I tried to make it happen now. Maybe they didn’t like the idea because if I did it now, it would lead to others doing it and maybe that’s not something they wanted to happen.

“It disappointed me. You know that there are things I can’t say. I’m holding back. I’m a public person.”

from bloodyelbow

Posted April 28, 2014 4:18 am 


Anonymous

Kid

i think there is fixing going on in the UFC as well, why do you think GSP quit all of a sudden? why do you think some fighters leave the UFC and fight MMA somewhere else. sometimes fighters just can’t swallow what is being asked of them… specially if they’re being asked to sell some fights…
Posted April 28, 2014 4:11 am

Money issues. Dana even admitted it on some level when that one fighter wasn’t signed to the UFC even though some fans wanted it. He said straight up…I can’t pay you like this other organization is paying you. Stay with them until I can (basically).

GSP has many issues. It wasn’t about fixing from what I gather.

I’m not saying there isn’t fixing in the UFC as we’ve heard that other MMA groups have fixed fights but I do think it is unlikely given they win no matter what. And some of their “stars” have lost fights and it looked like Dana was both shook and pissed off because he just lost his money maker and would have to rebuild him if he even could.

Posted April 28, 2014 4:15 am 


Anonymous

Kid

but what about that talk of hopkins vs mayweather??? hopkins = cruiser vs mayweather = WW… the noise is coming from the haymon stable… what do you think of that? if floyd were to end up challenging an aging hopkins and not find time to challenge GGG or martinez, that bout would definitely be BS!!!
Posted April 28, 2014 4:07 am

Hopkins is a LH Champion, not CW. And its all just Hopkins talking, not Floyd who has dismissed it as Hopkins doing what all the others are doing…trying to secure a big money fight against him because they can’t generate that money on their own.

GGG, Martinez, and the rest all want to fight Floyd because of that MONEY. And fans will push for it because they want Floyd to lose even though it is ridiculous to ask him to keep moving up. He isn’t big. Even Dana White was ripping him on TV about how small he really is.

Posted April 28, 2014 4:11 am 


Kid

i think there is fixing going on in the UFC as well, why do you think GSP quit all of a sudden? why do you think some fighters leave the UFC and fight MMA somewhere else. sometimes fighters just can’t swallow what is being asked of them… specially if they’re being asked to sell some fights…

Posted April 28, 2014 4:11 am 


Kid

but what about that talk of hopkins vs mayweather??? hopkins = cruiser vs mayweather = WW… the noise is coming from the haymon stable… what do you think of that? if floyd were to end up challenging an aging hopkins and not find time to challenge GGG or martinez, that bout would definitely be BS!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 4:07 am 


Anonymous

Kid

again ggg is not with top rank how come a fight with mayweather cannot be made? martinez is not with top rank, how come a fight with mayweather cannot be made… cotto is represented by top rank but is promoted by himself, how come a rematch cannot be made… is not just arum, its also mayweather and his gang!
Posted April 28, 2014 4:00 am

I think it may have something to do with Floyd is a WW that comes in at 150 on fight night and you want him to face a legit World Champion at MW/160.

Cotto rematch?
Because it wasn’t in high demand. he beat him and moved on.

Cotto is fighting on HBO, Floyd on Showtime. I’m not sure what deal if any he has set up.

Posted April 28, 2014 4:02 am 


Anonymous

Kid

you are correct. arum may already be desperate because he is loosing mikey garcia and chavez jr… but i don’t want all of these boxers to end up with one promoter! thats for sure! i don’t want fixed fights! i don’t want one promotional company hogging all the revenue!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:57 am

That’s why I brought up UFC/Dana White. do you think he is fixing fights or does he not care because he wins no matter what?

The good side of having one promotional outfit: Like the UFC (which owns most), they match up the best more often. Fighters really don’t have much choice.

The bad: I’m not sure the fighters are getting their fare share. You don’t usually when you have nowhere else to go. They can dictate your pay because you have little choice.

Hard to say. Fighters need to become more independent. they need to study economics along with boxing. Pick up a book, take some business courses at a community college…do something.

Posted April 28, 2014 4:00 am 


Kid

again ggg is not with top rank how come a fight with mayweather cannot be made? martinez is not with top rank, how come a fight with mayweather cannot be made… cotto is represented by top rank but is promoted by himself, how come a rematch cannot be made… is not just arum, its also mayweather and his gang!

Posted April 28, 2014 4:00 am 


Kid

you are correct. arum may already be desperate because he is loosing mikey garcia and chavez jr… but i don’t want all of these boxers to end up with one promoter! thats for sure! i don’t want fixed fights! i don’t want one promotional company hogging all the revenue!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:57 am 


Anonymous

Kid

this has already been achieved in the past… how come they can’t do it now??? time is running out on some fighters careers… why stall? if the fight is made, either the fighter has already endured so many ring wars or is already past his prime!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:53 am

Richard was the one to suggest bringing in a 3rd party, open all the books, and negotiate a deal based on their opinion. It was Arum that went on blasting Richard for bringing that up. After that, it got really cold between the two sides.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:56 am 


Anonymous

I think fighters need to take a stand and take charge. Know that the promoter works for them and not vice-versa.

Promoters will protect their fighter/investment and sometimes fighters want to be protected.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:54 am 


Kid

this has already been achieved in the past… how come they can’t do it now??? time is running out on some fighters careers… why stall? if the fight is made, either the fighter has already endured so many ring wars or is already past his prime!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:53 am 


Anonymous

Kid

i’m seeing light with the recent GBP/Top Rank dialogue… I also want to see this coming from mayweather’s end. good faith must come from all sides for great fights to be made!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:50 am

I see it from Oscar. I don’t trust the rest.

Arum may be open because he no longer has the best stable and he may realize that he is about to get cutoff like what happened to King.

First, he needs to open those books.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:52 am 


Kid

i’m seeing light with the recent GBP/Top Rank dialogue… I also want to see this coming from mayweather’s end. good faith must come from all sides for great fights to be made!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:50 am 


Anonymous

Kid

all i’m saying is the sooner the cold war ends and promotional outfits share in the business side of things alot of great fights will happen!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:46 am

Share?

Explain.

If you are a promoter and have the bigger draw fighter, would you share evenly the promotional wealth?
I don’t think so.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:49 am 


Anonymous

Kid

im not siding with any promotional outfit as a matter of fact in another forum i even mentioned that the pac vs bradley fight result was manipulated by arum!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:43 am

Well there needs to be a Commission that prevents it. Start off with having a full on review of all judges after the fight. the judge will have to explain his score card and if not on par with what a panel of other judges see, then you are suspended until further notice. It happens again, you are no longer allowed to judge. If it is proven there is fixing, you are heavily fined and jailed for fraud. The prison system may cooperate, after all, it too is a business.

The system is corrupt.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:47 am 


Kid

all i’m saying is the sooner the cold war ends and promotional outfits share in the business side of things alot of great fights will happen!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:46 am 


Anonymous

Kid

when rival promotions work together, rigid checks and balances are most likely to happen on both sides! this will ensure that the fights aren’t manipulated!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:40 am

Whoever has the bigger draw will want to lead the promotion because when you lead or have it in full, you make the bigger percentage/MONEY.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:44 am 


Kid

im not siding with any promotional outfit as a matter of fact in another forum i even mentioned that the pac vs bradley fight result was manipulated by arum!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:43 am 


Anonymous

Kid

their is fixing everywhere but we’re talking about boxing and how meaningful fights aren’t happening. i don’t care about the other sports because in not into them. arum also fixes his fights! thats a fact! fixing will be lessened when rival promotions get together and put up fights together!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:39 am

Fights aren’t happening because of GREED for one but also because they want to protect their investment.

If you have a top prize fighter who can be or is a draw but will more than likely lose to this other fighter, chances are, you are not going to put him in the ring with that fighter because when he loses, it could be bad from a Mental, Physical and Marketing point. And that means you lose income.

It sucks for the fan but that’s the way it is.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:42 am 


Kid

when rival promotions work together, rigid checks and balances are most likely to happen on both sides! this will ensure that the fights aren’t manipulated!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:40 am 


Kid

their is fixing everywhere but we’re talking about boxing and how meaningful fights aren’t happening. i don’t care about the other sports because in not into them. arum also fixes his fights! thats a fact! fixing will be lessened when rival promotions get together and put up fights together!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:39 am 


Anonymous

Kid

mayweather will beat them all because haymon will fix the fights for him! if the matches will be made within the same stable, mayweather will reign supreme!!! the boxer/puncher/brawler argument is all speculation if legitimate fights will not be made. we can debate about this when champions face real champions… and when promoters pit their fighters against other promoter’s fighters!
Posted April 28, 2014 1:24 am

Does Arum fix all his fights?

Does Dana White fix all his fights?

Does the NFL, NBA, and MLB fix all their games?

Posted April 28, 2014 3:34 am 


Anonymous

Kid

i completely agree with the mayweather vs GGG! that has been my campaign! but thats not happening in a long shot! mayweather would only want to be in a bout thats all favorable to him!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:31 am

Or in his division at least. GGG is to big. Nobody would ask Pac or any other WW to fight GGG, would they?

Posted April 28, 2014 3:33 am 


Anonymous

Kid

first off i’m not an advocate of prov… but if we conduct a survey right now- who would have a better chance of beating floyd? maidana or prov? who would you rather put your money on given that maidana is under haymon and prov is not? all i’m getting at is that floyd should start fighting those legitimate opponents who cannot be manipulated! thats all!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:28 am

Maidana has a better shot right now. Better Jab, more power, awkward style of punching, and is training with Ariza who gets his fighters conditioned.

Manipulated?
That would mean Arum would be doing the same since he is in control of who fights who in his camp.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:32 am 


Kid

i completely agree with the mayweather vs GGG! that has been my campaign! but thats not happening in a long shot! mayweather would only want to be in a bout thats all favorable to him!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:31 am 


Anonymous

Kid

floyd’s asset is his jab and counter punching! very very accurate. floyd will just pile up points against slow footed opponents like maidana and prov! but prov is relentless in his attacks… he will take the hit but he’s a non stop punching machine! maidana tends to tire out! watch the videos and compare! prov can go the full 12 rounds – non stop action!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:23 am

Stamina can be worn down by making a fighter miss and think. That’s what happens to Floyd’s opponents. He also works in those body shots at the right time. It was noted in a video that he prefers to get his opponents to extend their punches which leaves them wide open and vulnerable to body shots. Normally, guys just bang to the body but with Floyd, he’ll pick you apart with clean shots when you are wide open to be hit..
Ex: You throw the right hand (from an orthodox stance), and miss him, all while your arm is extended, the right side of your body is wide open and that’s when Floyd is in the process of landing a clean shot which will be more effective because of the combination of how wide open you are and how you are reaching so that you aren’t as tightened up.

Missing: missing tires you out more than landing on the target.

Mental: missing and getting countered back in return and hit clean will mentally wear you out because you have no answer and will try to come up with one. the more you think the more energy you use mentally which will tire you out physically.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:30 am 


Kid

first off i’m not an advocate of prov… but if we conduct a survey right now- who would have a better chance of beating floyd? maidana or prov? who would you rather put your money on given that maidana is under haymon and prov is not? all i’m getting at is that floyd should start fighting those legitimate opponents who cannot be manipulated! thats all!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:28 am 


Anonymous

Kid

i’m not denying that prov will be eating leather the entire day… but i’m pretty sure he’ll whack some sense into mayweather with his relentless style and heart. i’ve seen maidana lose steam… against an aging morales! that is how the theatrics will play out this weekend! maidana will come out firing but will lose steam then get knocked out. then people will all say mayweather knocked out an A class fighter… so predictable! very WWE! haha!
Posted April 28, 2014 2:57 am

Ariza has been working with Maidana. And Maidana back then was said to have not been training seriously. It makes a world of difference having a great camp and a subpar camp.

But it is a waste of a fight for me too. No point. It’s a money fight.

There isn’t any real challengers ready for Floyd right now except for one and two divisions up.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:24 am 


Kid

floyd’s asset is his jab and counter punching! very very accurate. floyd will just pile up points against slow footed opponents like maidana and prov! but prov is relentless in his attacks… he will take the hit but he’s a non stop punching machine! maidana tends to tire out! watch the videos and compare! prov can go the full 12 rounds – non stop action!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:23 am 


Anonymous

Kid

i’m pretty sure prov has also learned from the bradley bout and he will make the necessary adjustments if ever the fight with floyd were to happen… prov’s advantage is his age and the amount of fight rounds he’s been in is not as much as what maidana has already encountered. in short, he’s the fresher fighter! more tank left in him so floyd will not risk it!
Posted April 28, 2014 3:17 am

Yeah, everyone Floyd is not fighting at this moment he is avoiding. Don’t any of you get tired of such bull?

Prov would get schooled by Floyd. He is slow, comes straight forward, lacks skills, and lacks speed to give Floyd trouble. The only reason Bradley had trouble with him is because Bradley fought stupid and wanted to duke it out. Seriously, Bradley was badly hurt, couldn’t recover, had a concussion, in a fog decided to box Prov and ended up doing just that to win a close decision.

At least smarter fans admit that Floyd is to good for the field below 154 and he needs to step up beyond his comfort zone and fight GGG or someone of that ilk.

Posted April 28, 2014 3:21 am 


Kid

i’m pretty sure prov has also learned from the bradley bout and he will make the necessary adjustments if ever the fight with floyd were to happen… prov’s advantage is his age and the amount of fight rounds he’s been in is not as much as what maidana has already encountered. in short, he’s the fresher fighter! more tank left in him so floyd will not risk it!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:17 am 


Mike Tyson

Kid, Floyd could ko maidana, one safe bet is a body punch on the left side ribs of maidana after he hook. or before he holds. But really Floyd he might have been a slugger/boxer in his early ko years. Hated to get hit has a few close fight, so he lean to winning on points and not get hit, so became a slick boxer now. He has the power but need to get flat footed at times for slugger power ( leverge ) again at the expense of less foot movements .

Posted April 28, 2014 3:15 am 


Kid

i know prov doesn’t stand much of a chance against floyd. I can equate that fight to the upcoming mayweather vs maidana bout… but the ongoing war between rival promotions will make the fight all the more exciting… at least i know that prov bout will not be staged. inhouse fighters are easier to manipulate! if i was to bet my money on the underdog, choosing prov over maidana in a floyd match would be a no brainer!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:13 am 


Hmmm

Prov has not chance against Floyd. Easy boxing lesson. Bradley outboxed him easily when he wasn’t trying to trade with him. They’re saying Maidana will be to Floyd what Mayorga was to Forest

Posted April 28, 2014 3:06 am 


Kid

mayweather vs inhouse fighters only! what a joke!

Posted April 28, 2014 3:00 am 


Kid

i’m not denying that prov will be eating leather the entire day… but i’m pretty sure he’ll whack some sense into mayweather with his relentless style and heart. i’ve seen maidana lose steam… against an aging morales! that is how the theatrics will play out this weekend! maidana will come out firing but will lose steam then get knocked out. then people will all say mayweather knocked out an A class fighter… so predictable! very WWE! haha!

Posted April 28, 2014 2:57 am 


Hmmm

They’re saying Maidana will be to Floyd Mayweather what Mayorga was to Vernon Forrest. They’re saying Maidana’s going to shock the boxing world this weekend.

Posted April 28, 2014 2:57 am 


punch

Sorry a$$ conspiracy theorists are out in droves, yes all floyd’s fights are fixed just as fixed and staged as the moon landing and 911. If Prov ever stepped into the ring with Floyd he’d be overwhelmed and will quit after Floyd’s turned his ugly face into pizza.

Posted April 28, 2014 2:44 am 


third world

new welterweight champion next saturday

Posted April 28, 2014 2:42 am 


Kid

yes he is good but he is also unwilling to test his greatness!

Posted April 28, 2014 2:40 am 


Anonymous

Marcos. Sorry!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 2:35 am 


Anonymous

No one can beat Floyd, he is too good. Now, I wish that Marco kick his arse :D

Posted April 28, 2014 2:33 am 


Kid

ppv receipts are the result of the people’s ignorance to what is really happening behind the sport. and you know what, the greedy promoters like this ignorance! thats the truth!

Posted April 28, 2014 2:27 am 


Goro

the PPV receipts tells you what people want shorty.

Posted April 28, 2014 2:23 am 


Kid

Forget mayweather!!! it should have been maidana vs provodnikov instead… that would have been an no holds barred, brutal match up! legit fight, 50/50, toe to toe… this is what fight fans want, not a boring catch if you can marathon!

Posted April 28, 2014 1:47 am 


Kid

who is a beast in the ring? maidana or provodnikov? you decide! who poses a legitimate threat? maidana the stable mate or provodnikov? boxing fixing at its finest!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 1:40 am 


Kid

i know prov will lose to mayweather but i will savor the mugging he will dish out to mayweather’s big mouth!!! but this fight will never happen because mayweather is so full of sh*tty excuses: excuse number 1. he lost to bradley, excuse number 2. who has he beaten?, excuse number 3. prov is using steroids, excuse number 4. prov is not with haymon… the list goes on and on…

Posted April 28, 2014 1:37 am 


Kid

why not provodnikov vs mayweather??? given the chance, im pretty sure prov will climb up and beat the living hell out of mayweather! but will he be given a chance? not in a million years!!!

Posted April 28, 2014 1:30 am 


Kid

mayweather will beat them all because haymon will fix the fights for him! if the matches will be made within the same stable, mayweather will reign supreme!!! the boxer/puncher/brawler argument is all speculation if legitimate fights will not be made. we can debate about this when champions face real champions… and when promoters pit their fighters against other promoter’s fighters!

Posted April 28, 2014 1:24 am 


Mike Tyson

Happy boy, I think someone leak just under 700,00 about 68900, surely low. Maidana and Floyd might also be low as obama care started everybody need personal insurance, but out of USA don’t need it. Think Oscar and arum will break the cold war making others fights and Floyd has no say.
Millions in revenue decides it.

Posted April 28, 2014 1:17 am 


Happyboy

Verdict : you could bring all those boxers & sluggers ( porter, Thurman, Alexander, Garcia, khan, Maidana, Boner etc) Mayweather would beat them all, easy work. Floyd is #1, all roads lead to Mayweather.

Posted April 28, 2014 1:17 am 


Happyboy

anyone care to let us know what the PPV numbers are for Pac vs Bradley, Rob Arum & fat Dan Rafael are being secretive again.

Posted April 28, 2014 1:10 am 


Mike Tyson

boxing fighters  are being rearrange in ranking , the boxers are slowly lose the war to the slugger/ boxer the hybrids.

First was khan a boxer taken out by Garcia a slugger/ boxer.

Next alexander A boxer, yes did totally beat maidana to a U.D decision. But Porter a slugger/boxer push him out easily by slugging him out as did Bradley. A slugger/ boxer as is PAC. Two of the best slugger/ boxer around.

the next boxer to go was broner, who maidan a true slugger vs canelo (a boxer w/a-good punch) beat the heck out of him  

Next came paulie a true boxer, porter a slugger/ boxer nultralize paulie boxing skill, and slugg paulie and ran him over.

Next comes thurman another slugger/ boxer up against Dias a experienced counter puncher boxer.
Thurman’s get a tko, on a rib damage, 

Verdict? 5 boxer have bitten the dust. As I said slugger/boxer will rule, not slugger. unless your a slick boxer but still have to be proven.

Next up: Floyd vs maidana a b- rated slugger ( experienced and getting better, a true inside fighter/ multi unexpected timed cross lobbing over the top)

Axexander, khan, both  beat maidana on a UD decision, but Bradley, porter, slugger / boxer beat alexander the boxer up
So Floyd need a shut out, or a stoppage.  As he represent or is the last few good boxers left standing now. See, its best to be humbled Floyd,

Posted April 28, 2014 1:02 am 


Kid

i want to see porter vs bradley!!! 50/50 match!

Posted April 28, 2014 12:25 am 


Kid

i not so sure that the ggg vs chavez will push through… i read that chavez is having issues with arum also like mikey garcia… but that will be an awesome fight! chavez is all about heart, golovkin is all about power and shear strength! maybe a 60/40 bout… i’m leaning towards GGG winning in that match!

Posted April 28, 2014 12:24 am 


sean patrick harrington

Also ggg vs chavez is gonna be brutal. They are going to war.

Posted April 28, 2014 12:15 am 


sean patrick harrington

Kid. Gonna be a great fight. I just might have to ppv it. I normally dont but damn that fight is gonna be worth it. Two warriors fighting. Wish floyd would step up to sergio or ggg.

Posted April 28, 2014 12:14 am 


Kid

@sean – 50/50! they’re both being promoted by different outfits… no promoter would want their fighter to lose so its an all out affair… it will be good for the fans because the result is unknown until the match ends… honestly i don’t know who to pick… cotto came out strong against an overmatched rodriguez and martinez has the same heart as bradley so its a toss up!

Posted April 28, 2014 12:07 am 


sean patrick harrington

Kid cotto vs martinez. I think sergio will win. You?

Posted April 28, 2014 12:03 am 


sean patrick harrington

Exactly right kid. Promoters have killed the sport. Hooters does not show boxing anymore. Its all mma i kickbox so its not so bad for me but boxing is not what it was ten years ago

Posted April 28, 2014 12:01 am 


Kid

its a given fact! this mayweather event will be another smash hit… its sad that alot of people will still buy this… i guess this is what mayweather learned when he appeared in the WWE… that money can be made without getting battered!

Posted April 28, 2014 12:01 am 


sean patrick harrington

I dont watch boxing ppv. They are a rip off.

Posted April 27, 2014 11:58 pm 


Kid

@sean- thats the reason why theres all this inhouse nonsense so that thurman can be built up without fighting a legitimate challenger from another promotional outfit!

Posted April 27, 2014 11:57 pm 


Ok

Floyds fans and ppv numbers havent declined like so many other fighters. This will be another 40 million dollars sparring session for him he makes it look so easy but its not no one can do what he does…

Posted April 27, 2014 11:55 pm 


Kid

the mayweather vs maidana fiasco has great fighters in it but the matchups are horrible! the results are 100% expected! the matchups were made to have khan look good again, broner look good again and mayweather to still appear pound for pound the best even if he fought a cherry picked opponent! why does everyone still fall for this when we can all watch the replay?!

Posted April 27, 2014 11:54 pm 


sean patrick harrington

No doubt kid. Boxing has really lost a lot of fans cause of careful match making and ppv

Posted April 27, 2014 11:51 pm 


sean patrick harrington

Kid prod would be to much for thurman. Prod is beast

Posted April 27, 2014 11:50 pm 


Kid

we should stop patronizing inhouse promotions so we can teach these greedy people a lesson!!! nowadays these promoters want all the money to themselves! if that were not the case we would have had great matchups like: provodnikov vs. thurman, provodnikov vs. matthysse, porter vs bradley, matthysse vs. rios, golovkin vs hopkins, khan vs bradley, khan vs marquez, danny garcia vs provodnikov, alvarado vs. matthysse… damn! the matchups are endless….

Posted April 27, 2014 11:48 pm 


sean patrick harrington

This should not be ppv

Posted April 27, 2014 11:48 pm 


Kid

thurman was made to look good… diaz is already a shot fighter! there is no doubt he is expected to win and by TKO! this is how haymon is hyping him… the only good fight in the showtime card was the molina vs matthysse bout! i hope haymon does not prolong a thurman vs porter matchup or better yet why not provodnikov vs thurman!!! GBP/Haymon vs another promotional outfit! pick em fight!

Posted April 27, 2014 11:42 pm 


B Red

Floyd by UD or late stoppage

Posted April 27, 2014 11:38 pm 


AMIGO MIO

This fight is not worthy to be in the PPV.This is a pathetic match up.The result is already known with few real boxing action. May weather fights are boring than baseball. I won’t waste my time watching this fight.

Posted April 27, 2014 11:35 pm 


Tomato Can

I liked last nights showtime card, and I’m looking forward to next weeks showtime card. It should be a good night of boxing. As far as who should he fighting Mayweather, well Maidana earned his shot, if he makes the most of this shot, there will be a lot of fans with egg on their face….

Posted April 27, 2014 11:34 pm 


Kid

mayweather vs maidana is rigged! maidana will sell the fight and just cash in on a huge pay day… haymon would be crazy enough to have his cash cow lose… besides haymon would have maidana matched with his other fighters in the future… i really hope GBP and Top Rank end their cold war soon. GBP vs Top Rank fights are 50/50… inhouse promotions suck because the fights can be scripted like WWE… these greedy promoters just put on the theatrics to steal the fans’ hard earned money…

Posted April 27, 2014 11:25 pm 


Auzbox

Manny would challenge him and so would Bradley

Posted April 27, 2014 11:15 pm 


Auzbox

Who cares maidana was beaten by a bum in khan it’s that simple

Posted April 27, 2014 11:02 pm 


sean patrick harrington

Khan cant deal with floyd. Not a chance.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:48 pm 


sean patrick harrington

I wonder if floyd can knock his arse out? Its gonna be target practice for floyd so maybe corner throws in towl

Posted April 27, 2014 10:47 pm 


Anonymous

YT Miadana won 4 in a row a mere con didnt guy…

Posted April 27, 2014 10:41 pm 


Ok

Kahn is a ass clown if Floyd fights him it would be solely for the money in UK skill wise he gets his ass beat. Manny is truly fcked because of Top rank. Even if Floyd tried to negotiate Arum would mess it up like before so it will never happen. Porter, Thurman and Danny Garcia in the future for sure. Marcos is a easy win but hell all his fights are easy because no one can challenge him…

Posted April 27, 2014 10:40 pm 


Q

Goodnight guys.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:31 pm 


Q

Manny did beat a good fighter in Bradley. Good for him.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:30 pm 


robret13

Pacquiao vs Rios was a joke. Rios is a cool dude but did anyone think he was going to win? Now Danny Garcia vs Brandon Rios different tune. I do not hate on Pacquiao, but his last fights have either been with fighters he fought in the past or just ones that we knew he would win against. I actually thought Bradley would do better the second time around. Many will say that we could say the same about Mayweather, yet not the same story. We all know Mayweather is not a power puncher and if he was trying to play it safe, choosing Maidana is not a safe route. Neither was Robert Guerrero, Cotto or Canelo, for a guy like Mayweather those are risky fights. The man just has great defense, ring intelligence and speed, if not he would’ve lost by now. He can be seen as cocky on tv but he trains very hard, so give credit where its do. Maidana always comes in as the underdog and he has proven time after time that he is not someone you want to take lightly. We all saw what happened when Cotto faced Mayweather and Cotto is not fast or a power puncher. Maidana is a power puncher and he comes at you with full force, no matter if many say he is slow. A guy, who can hit and has a nice knockout percentage, is dangerous period. Look at last night with Keith Thurman, the other dude felt the punch after he sat down and was heck this. At least it was a better choice then Amir Khan, that’s easily a won fight by Mayweather.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:29 pm 


Q

Khan beat Maidana years ago (almost go stopped in the process) and that means he should have went first? what kind of a kindergarten mindset stupidity is that? Yes, Khan might be next in line, and rightfully so. Julio Diaz was just sitting Khan on his @$$ ….Floyd’s giving the guy a chance to NOT look like $hit in the ring before fighting him. Great choice by FMJ. He picked the right guy, it’s unquestionable. Thanks Floyd.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:29 pm 


Auzbox

Khan beat him fair and square so bad luck q. Keep fighting the good fight champ

Posted April 27, 2014 10:27 pm 


Auzbox

Doesn’t matter how you cut it Bradley was 3 p4p so don’t go on about geale plan. Manny won easy no matter once again how you cut it

Posted April 27, 2014 10:26 pm 


Q

Khan doesn’t have any leftovers. Khan’s been getting ktfo and put on his @$$ by guys like Julio Diaz in his last few bouts, whereas Maidana has been knocking guys out then dethrones Broner who many thought was going to go and kick his @$$…. in fact, before Marcos won that fight most “haters” were saying Broner wasn’t fighting who he needs to fight. Maidana pulled it out and has earned his spot. Khan shouldn’t have been getting knocked out and such, and yes…. I’d watch Floyd fighter whoever, and I’d watch all of his sparring as well if I could, duh. Goodnight.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:25 pm 


Auzbox

Maidana earnt his spot fighting who exactly a blown up light weight haha good one. Khan beat him so he should of gone first. But funny mayweather will fight him next LMAO great champ he is

Posted April 27, 2014 10:24 pm 


Jb221

Collazo ko’s khan by the 7th

Posted April 27, 2014 10:24 pm 


Ok

Auzbox your boy Manny looked a little winded there fella. Bradley fought a stupid fight he gave Manny the fight after his dumb ass punched himself out of gas like he did with Ruslan. Hell they both looked out of shape certainly his punches didnt have the same snap and power as they once had not to mention he was getting caught rather nice overall he won and a win is a win, but a more exerienced fighter and demeterined and it might go another way Manny is far from the same. Bradley lost the first time to Manny so it was no surprise. Bradley although ranked number 3 is not on the same level as alot of these other fighters And Rios sht no comment. lol K

Posted April 27, 2014 10:24 pm 


Auzbox

Good one q you would still watch him fight a cab driver but that just shows exactly what sort of fan you are. Keep fighting the good fight chap

Posted April 27, 2014 10:22 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh funny he is fighting khan leftovers. But yeh that’s what the pound for pound king does these days

Posted April 27, 2014 10:20 pm 


Q

Manny and Mayweather would be a nice fight in the FUTURE, we’re in the now, and now there is a fight on Saturday with Floyd and Maidana who earned his spot, but yes… we want to see the P4Pers fight eachother. Duh.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:19 pm 


Q

What? It sounds like you’re comparing Maidana’s choice of opponent rather than Mayweather’s choice of picking Maidana. Meanwhile Maidana likely beat the better fighter in Broner than Manny did in Rios, so it’s a horrible attempted point. But nice try thought?

Posted April 27, 2014 10:17 pm 


Auzbox

And tampon check the p4p list manny is the best fight for floyd they both inside the top 5. Once again you prove to be an idiot

Posted April 27, 2014 10:15 pm 


Q

I’m personally not waiting specifically for Floyd to loss, so I for one am excited about seeing his next performance regardless of who he’s fighting. He could have even done something he never does and picked an average fighter or something and I still would be interested in seeing his bout, luckily he doesn’t do that. I can’t wait for this bout.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:14 pm 


Auzbox

Never said rios was better read a little better. I said you dumb floydoids criticise manny for fighting a lightweight yet floyd is fighting a guy that beat a lightweight to earn his shot

Posted April 27, 2014 10:14 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh Teflon why isn’t floyd KO ing anyone. Different standards. Your a fool

Posted April 27, 2014 10:13 pm 


Q

Madonna wasn’t an easy fight for Khan, he wasn’t an easy fight for Ortiz and he wasn’t an easy fight for Broner. He got the crap boxed out of him by Devon a while ago now, but he’s proven to be a dangerous fighter against men who win champions and has even improved a bit approach wise and such with Robert Garcia. He’s a very good fighter and better than a lot of the filler names that you can go and find on every other legends resume during there championship years, but he could likely be an easy for FOR Floyd Mayweather Jr… but that’s not saying much.

Posted April 27, 2014 10:12 pm 


Q

test

Posted April 27, 2014 10:12 pm 


sean patrick harrington

Maidana is not elite or even good. Easy fight for floyd

Posted April 27, 2014 10:05 pm 


Anonymous

Rios isn’t better than Maidana, especially at this point with Maidana having the dedication and training he needs.

Posted April 27, 2014 9:59 pm 


Anonymous

Hello Miadana wont the last 4 fights in a row Manny hasn’t? Maidana is a good fight for anyone. Actually before Floyd picked him Danny Garcia wanted a crack at Marcos…

Posted April 27, 2014 9:57 pm 


Q

Marcos has also won his last few fights and has looked great. You’re arguing that Rios was a better fight than Maidana? On what grounds? It’s not even comparable. Rios was coming up in weight and off a loss to not a great fighter. Are we arguing that Manny fighting Brandon Rios in his last bout is a better option than Floyd fighting Marcos Maidana in this bout? Explain please. I probably won’t respond though, I’m reading some things.

Posted April 27, 2014 9:46 pm 


teflon

Azzbox excuse us Manny is the best right? Pacroida who cant KO anyone without the mystery sake given to him by Ariza his conditioning couch. And how about that BS Bradley rematch that looked like armature night at the Apollo hell they both looked like out of shape bums wonder what was he ppvs numbers? Pray that Floyd helps Manny with his IRS troubles?

Posted April 27, 2014 9:43 pm 


Q

Maidana belongs at 147 and beat a guy who was deemed a virtuoso and the next FMJ (by dumbasses)

Posted April 27, 2014 9:42 pm 


Auzbox

And no boxtra he is not. All the greats agree with me on that

Posted April 27, 2014 9:24 pm 


Auzbox

Another easy beat. Beat a lightweight to gain a title, you all had a crack at PAC for fighting rios yet the challenger for floyd is allowed to earn his shot by beating a lightweight. INTERESTING

Posted April 27, 2014 9:23 pm 


Boxtradamus

Floyd is the GOAT!!!

Posted April 27, 2014 9:18 pm 



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