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te tumbo – “I watched that bout live and the lasting impression was not only Williams activity-level but also Margarito’s passivity”

Nah, that was just a flaw in Margarito’s fighting style in general. It’s the same flaw I’ve pointed out that Chavez Jr has.
He’s simply doesn’t punch at moving targets. He just walks after them like Frankenstein hoping that they’ll stop moving for long enough that he can throw back. Both Cotto fights showed this perfectly whereby Margarito was nullified completely when Cotto was moving, but as soon as Cotto stopped moving, Margarito would unleash plastered hellfire.

Chavez Jr was the same, but worse, against Martinez. He just literally walked after him like a mobile pinata for most of the fight. It was only in the 12th round that he really started to fire back, and then he finally had some success.
He should’ve followed Margarito’s winning formula from years earlier whereby when Martinez throws his counters (assuming you’re able to wear them), throw straight back at him, because it’s the only time the dude stands still, and moreover, he tends to let his guard down (i.e. even a relative light puncher like Murray was recently able to capitalize on it)…
This is why I reckon Golovkin is going to leave nothing of the modern, faded version of Martinez but a giant smear of blood across the ring canvas.

Posted February 15, 2014 4:19 am 


@TARK – “Sergio Martinez pretty much proved that Williams was a disaster looking to happen. Martinez was also a victim of Cheato’s plaster in an earlier fight”

Nah, as much as I hate Margarito and his plastering, I believe he started after the Williams fight.
My reasoning is that when he fought Clottey (who was injured), Clottey did his usual defensive peek-a-boo style, allowing Margarito to throw an impressive number of punches. If Margarito was plastering, Clottey would have shown pretty serious damage around the sides of his face (i.e. bits that take glancing shots even when covering up) as well as more damage in the front of his face from the shots that slip through the gloves. Clottey is a hard, hard man, but I doubt he could have come out so unscathed with plastered fists being thrown at him.
Martinez lost to Margarito for the same reason he sometimes looks bad now… Martinez gets caught when he throws his counter shots and the other guy throws immediately back. Margarito simply walked through him (in the same way Chavez finally started to do in the final round of their fight). Pavlik had some success doing it, but wasn’t really up to the job at the time. Even Williams had success doing it.

The only reason Williams’ jab was useless in the Martinez fight was because he didn’t use it. Same in the Lara fight. Williams decided from the opening bell that it was going to be a blood and guts war as he seemed to do with just about every one of his later fights.
His stance was also terrible because he chose to give away his height advantage and posture as an inside puncher.
It wasn’t because he wasn’t capable, it was because he chose not to.

Posted February 15, 2014 4:13 am 


TARK !! you are as big an idiot as that Pubic Enemy ..both of you gals are as dumb as they come ..TARK you are as close minded as of any body i have ever seen . first you say Antonio Margarito beat every one because of his loaded gloves and then you say that he didn’t have them loaded in the Paul Williams fight ..Make up your mind you moron ..If there was an advantage with real plaster gloves Antonio would have been knocking every one out in the first two rounds ,

Posted February 14, 2014 8:31 pm 

te tumbo

Btw, YOU REALLY NEED TO ACTUALLY WATCH THE BOUTS YOU’RE POSTING ABOUT. otherwise, Margarito almost took Williams OUT in the 11th-round of their bout and was poised to finish what he started in the final round. to Williams everlasting credit, he responded with final-round ferocity of his own BUT he was on queer street just one round earlier. don’t believe me? WATCH THE FIGHT.

Posted February 14, 2014 8:28 pm 

te tumbo

TARK, you’re assertion that 40+ corners were unable to detect doctored wraps while also selectively allowing for the possibility that Capetillo only doctored wraps v. corners he assumed would be too incomptetent to tell the difference is utterly absurd. Tony’s wraps v. Cotto were thoroughly inspected and approved by both corners and NSAC inspectors. why the f’k would they choose that bout to let their guards down? or favor Margarito? moreover, Cotto looked no worse than Margarito by the end of that bout . . . except for kneeling down in bloody submission. after all, it was Cotto who conceded that he gets visions of domestic bliss when things get too tough in a boxing ring. he was lucky to have an Arum-appointed doctor closely watching the rematch to pull the plug the moment Cotto began his predictable late-rounds fade, which he did, at which point the doctor persuaded the ref to call the fight on behalf of Margarito’s health(?!?). Pfffft?! Btw, we know that is a PED-cheat and I suspect that he was juiced for his bout v. Margarito. if I followed your example, I would insist that Mosley juiced for EVERY bout he had above 135lbs, which is more probable than your delusional doctored-wraps theory.

Posted February 14, 2014 8:25 pm 

Chili Grande

TARK,,,you have no idea what in the heck you are talking about . Antonio Margarito did not beat Sergio Martinez or Kermit Cintron or Cotto because of the plaster in his hands ..he beat them because of his constant pressure ,,his seek and destroy style of fighting .Did you not watch any of these fights ,it was Margarito’s iron jaw to take heavy shots and relentless pressure that made Martinez and Cintron and Cotto quit . If he had real plaster in his gloves he would have had early knockouts of them fighter’s .

Posted February 14, 2014 8:17 pm 

Chili Grande

Mexican heritage fighters are currently the most boxing Champions at this movement .. there is a total of 11 champions right now that are Mexican fighters ,,The list — Carlos Molina,, Omar Figueroa ,, Miguel Vasquez,, Mickey Garcia ,, Johnny Gonzales ,,Orlando Salido ,,Leo Santa Cruz ,, Juan Francisco Estrada,,Adrian Hernandez,, Moises Fuentes ,, Oswaldo Novoa .. Now How many does Puerto Rico have 1 ,yes only 1 Danny Garcia ,,thats it ..

Posted February 14, 2014 8:02 pm 


Cotto is far from finished after beating Cheato into retirement…

Cotto recently turned down 10 million dollars guaranteed — so he could go after an even better opportunity.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:39 pm 


Tumbo… My lasting impression of Williams-Cheato was that Williams dominated the fight and was never on shakey legs… and that Williams was wide open if Cheato could punch, but he couldn’t..

Sergio Martinez pretty much proved that Williams was a disaster looking to happen. Martinez was also a victim of Cheato’s plaster in an earlier fight.. The only time in his life Sergio was ever stopped.. If you watch that contest it has “PLASTER” written all over it.

My lasting impression of Cotto-Cheato was Cotto giving Cheato a brutal beating, closing his right eye shut tight as can be, and sending the cheater into retrement for good … since Cheato knew he wasn’t any good without his plaster he hasn’t disgraced another ring…

Post Plaster he was a big ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted February 14, 2014 7:36 pm 


Bearcat Margecheato wasnt sht without that plaster of paris in his gloves he was exposed for the cheater he was and everysince then has been getting his ass beat like a drum. The fool almost killed Cotto not cool…

Posted February 14, 2014 7:33 pm 

te tumbo

TARK, I watched that bout live and the lasting impression was not only Williams activity-level but also Margarito’s passivity. when he did begin to crank-up his offense he promptly put Williams on shaky legs and almost finished him in the 11th. to William’s credit, he came out strong in the final round, which his corner believed he needed because of the lack of any equally-shaky moments for Margarito . . . who subsequently went on to force Cotto to his knees in bloody submission. Cotto still hasn’t recovered from the trauma and is now hiding from Canelo to avoid an even Worse and final beating.

Posted February 14, 2014 6:53 pm 

Fight Aficionado

LOL Tomato Can.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:53 pm 


Williams fought close in and brawled BECAUSE he had no stance and no jab… He jabbed the inept Cheato but couldn’t jab guys like Lara at all.

Williams lost damned near every round of that fight when Lara had only about 14 fights. The decision was a joke. The judges were suspended for their scorecards and that was also a joke. The decision was rigged ahead of time because all the commentators had Lara winning big.

Williams also couldn’t jab Martinez and lost both fights. His jabbing problem was his overall stance, particularly his right shoulder, and his delivery. It also meant that he couldn’t throw a straight left.. He had some identical southpaw stance problems to Joe Calzaghe.. A good boxer would have exposed Calzaghe too because he really couldn’t jab or throw a straight left.. His dad never boxed and he taught him.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:03 pm 


@TARK – “Williams had NO jab and NO outside game at all—and STILL managed to box Cheato’s ass off.”

For the record, Williams won that fight on the back of over 600 jabs (and over 1.2K overall punches). The dude was a capable outside fighter, but for whatever reason he generally insisted on giving away his height advantage and throwing down in the kill zone… I guess he needed to show an exciting style and try to build a fan-base if he had any chance of getting fights given how avoided he was as a welter.
I reckon he would’ve had a far more successful (though boring) career if he’d focused on being an outside fighter instead of blocking with his head like he did in most of his later fights.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:49 pm 


Tumbo… Cheato lost every round to Paul Williams up to the 10th… Cheato couldn’t do a damned thing without his plaster, and he must not have loaded up that night, because maybe Williams’ dressing room observer was too keen on the rules and physically checked both the gloves and wraps.

Remember, after Cheato was exposed as a cheat he did NOTHING!!!!!

Getting love against Williams??? Gimme a break.. Williams had NO jab and NO outside game at all—and STILL managed to box Cheato’s ass off.

But not as badley as 37-year-old Shane Mosley boxed Cheato to death. Shane put on a clinic of aggressive, dominant punching before knocking Cheato TFO.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:31 pm 

te tumbo

Btw, no less prominent fighters than DLH and Marquez have been robbed in Vegas and Cali. not even Margarito could get any love v. Williams following their bout in Cali. consequently, your geography factor is a thoroughly-discredited cop-out.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:56 pm 

te tumbo

“10 or 15 punches in a row. That is laughable. It is impossible to miss Canelo with that many punches”. check the videotape (if you can bear it) and get back to me on that one. Canelo’s domination of Trout was no less thorough than Mayweather’s over Guerrero. to this day, NObody dares answer my challenge of identifying the single boxing-related (not geography-related) category that Canelo didN’T dominate Trout in . . . Anybody?

Posted February 14, 2014 3:53 pm 

Tomato Can

What FA doesn’t tell you is now he’s on permanent disability due to the many STD’s he’s contracted over the years.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:05 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“is there a corona girls website? that girl on the right is LIGHTS OUT HOT!!!!” – – Yeah it’s It’s films of me banging all the Corona Girls and giving them cream pies. My job rules.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:25 pm 


10 or 154 punches in a row. That is laughable. It is impossible to miss Canelo with that many punches. Trout even said he felt he won the fight. Yeah he said he didn’t expect what Canelo did but that is because Trout doesn’t know how to come forward in a fight. He really only knows how to move back and counter punch. Yet he still should of gotten the nod. If that fight was anywhere else but Texas, Vegas or Cali, Trout would of won that fight.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:49 pm 

te tumbo

PEEJ, i laughed before being stunned into silence by the sight of Trout missing 5, 10, 15 punches in a row(?!) before being expertly tagged and countered by Canelo. Trout described the experience best with a single word: “Shocked” and totally unprepared for what Canelo brought to their matchup. it resulted in Caenlo’s overconfidence in his own boxing ability, which he attempted to apply on Floyd. Thee master boxer of his era.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:23 pm 


People keep saying Canelo looked good against Trout. I thought Trout won that fight by a round. The judging for that fight was terrible. I laughed at folks when they said Canelo showed so much improvement with his feet movement and head movement. He showed he could move his head and stand in one place, that was about it.

Posted February 14, 2014 11:47 am 


is there a corona girls website? that girl on the right is LIGHTS OUT HOT!!!!

Posted February 14, 2014 4:24 am 


To Pubic Enemy ,,Who cares if no one else besides Mexicans care about this fight ,,there is enough Mexicans to fill the MGM Grand in Vegas ..and enough Mexicans to order PPV .. unlike Puerto Ricans that can’t afford a dam ticket to a fight and can only watch PPV only if 30 Puerto Ricans split the cost ,,Because every one knows that all Puerto Ricans are on Welfare .

Posted February 14, 2014 3:30 am 

Joseph Herron

te tumbo: “Salido delivers quicker chopping-punches compared to Angulo’s wider hooks.”

Salido is a mid range bomber and isn’t as proficient on the inside as Angulo or Rios.

But all three of the above mentioned fighters are extremely durable fighters who apply great pressure.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:45 am 

te tumbo

Salido delivers quicker chopping-punches compared to Angulo’s wider hooks. I also think Salido looks healthier at 126lbs than Angulo has at 154lbs. Angulo may have not choice but IMO he’s been fighting depleted at that weight. don’t know how much longer he can pull it off, which may be why he’ll be grateful to cash-out v. Canelo. win or lose.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:28 am 


Angulo and Salido have similar styles… and skill sets.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:12 am 


Angulo is a lot like Rios… Only worse… He’s easier to hit.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:11 am 

te tumbo

not that Angulo was ever particularly articulate or eloquent but he sounded not-so-good in a Spanish-language interview I recently heard him on. reminiscent of Rios.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:51 am 

Tomato Can

joeseph agreed. It should be a good one. I have no problem with this fight at all. Canelo could have fought a lot weaker opposition. But as tuff as Angulo is he can’t keep taking punishment like he did in the Lara and Kirkland fights. Canelo will be another fighter dealing out a lot of punishment to El Perro.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:43 am 


Angulo is the perfect foil for Canelo… Canelo can box and Angulo can’t. Lara is the logical opponent for Canelo because Lara beat Trout much more convincingly than Canelo beat him.

Lara has a great spar-mate in Jermell Charlo; you can’t put a price on that. The greatest thing in the world is to spar with one of the best boxers in the world every day. A year with someone like that completely changes you for the better. The guys Canelo used for his last fight suck to the quasars.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:50 pm 


If an underdog was ever “live”, this is it; Angulo is a very live dog & the smell of an upset is overwhelming-to me…

Posted February 13, 2014 11:03 pm 


Bullsht, Angulo has a hell of a chance here; to keep “el perro” off of you, you need power & stamina & Canelo has neither…this is a very difficult fight for Canelo & the chance of an upset is very & I mean VERY HIGH…

Posted February 13, 2014 10:58 pm 

Joseph Herron

I would love to stay on this comment board and chat more about this explosive match-up, but I have to host a general sports show in about five minutes.

If you guys care to listen and chime in about the NBA, College Hoops, and the Olympics, call in with 718-506-1506

Posted February 13, 2014 9:54 pm 

Joseph Herron

Tomato Can: “Canelo will have no problem setting his feet and teeing off on Angulo. It won’t take to many of Canelo’s punches to start busting up Angulo… It should be a good fight night. I’m there.”

Good observation, TC.

He won’t have any trouble finding Angulo and touching him up, but will it prove to be enough to detour the proven durability of Alfredo Angulo?

It will be a great fight…no doubt about it!!

Posted February 13, 2014 9:51 pm 

Tomato Can

Canelo will have no problem setting his feet and teeing off on Angulo. It won’t take to many of Canelo’s punches to start busting up Angulo… It should be a good fight night. I’m there.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:47 pm 

Tomato Can

But, to be truthful, Canelo has been a bit of a bully at JMW, by fighting a lot of little guys. He may end not liking Angulo’s power and food like bullies are known to do when things get tuff.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:43 pm 

Tomato Can

If we use Cintron as a gage to see how this fight will turn out, Canelo will out smart and beat Angulo to the punch all night. Sure it may not turn out like that, but that’s what I expect.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:41 pm 

Joseph Herron

LOL…i understand that Canelo isn’t your prototypical Mexican fighter. But unlike Marquez, we haven’t seen evidence that Canelo can take a good shot on the chin and comeback even stronger and more determined.

Marquez is a phenom and an all time great fighter. He’s not just an accurate counterpuncher who understands angles and distance better than most fighters of his generation, he is ultra durable and can hang with the greatest offensive fighters of this era.

Can Canelo? Does Saul possess the same mental and physical durability of JMM?

No one knows that at this point in time. That’s what makes this match-up against Angulo so intriguing.

So before you put Canelo in Canastota, let’s find out if he can take a good shot from one of the hardest punching Junior Middleweight fighters in the world.

I personally think that Canelo will prove to be too fast and too explosive for Angulo on March 8th.

But, if Canelo hasn’t improved his ability to use the entire ring and punch while turning his opponent like JMM, he’s going to have to rely on hurting his opponent as he’s coming in.

Although I see Canelo outclassing Alfredo from mid to long range as he’s trying to close the distance, I can also see this fight looking eerily similar to the Maidana/Broner fight.

Canelo depends on being flatfooted when he lets his hands go. He combines speed with power, which not only sacrifices his mobility, but sacrifices his punch volume.

This is a contest between the machine gun and the sniper rifle…who wins?

Posted February 13, 2014 9:01 pm 

te tumbo

“Styles make fights” and Angulo’s style is etched in stone, i.e., you’re correct to assume that he will attempt to close the distance and engage on the inside v. Canelo. conversely, i’ve seen Canelo swarm smaller opponents with offense and also hold back and wait to exploit lapses in an opponent’s offense or defense with mobility and precise counterpunching. Btw, I think Canelo hits harder than Lara and just as hard as Kirkland. that should be enough to compel Angulo to respect Canelo’s space and be outpointed or even TKOd from a distance . . . we’ll see.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:51 pm 

te tumbo

not even the red-hair and freckles can spare Canelo from the expectations of every Mexican fighter: to lead with his head and relentlessly pound to the jaw and body for a KO, TKO, or 12 full-round win or loss. Angulo fits the bill but not Canelo. that is neither his temperament or style. he aspires to being a smart boxer and economical puncher. at his best, I anticipate that he’ll become a Marquez with much better defense and mobility.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:44 pm 

Joseph Herron

te tumbo: “I assign you to watch Canelo’s win over Trout. a perfectly-balanced, boxing-punching performance v. the man who utterly dominated Cotto. Btw, if Lara ever earns a bout v. Canelo, Alvarez will improve on Angulo’s performance and put an end to that hype-job for good.”

Styles make fights, Tumbo.

Austin is one of the best matadors in the entire sport and has never been an effective aggressor. It was very easy for Canelo to look good defensively against a fighter who doesn’t take the lead very often.

Alfredo Angulo is the exact opposite of a man like Austin Trout. What he lacks on defense, he more than makes up for it offensively.

If Canelo cannot hurt Angulo as he’s trying to close the distance, he’s going to be in for a world of hurt.

Mark my words, if Alfredo is able to close the distance on Canelo, the next big star will become the latest big bust!!

Posted February 13, 2014 8:39 pm 

te tumbo

“Canelo is incapable of putting on a performance like Erislandy Lara because he cannot let his hands go while moving his feet, and cannot usually let his hand go with volume” (heavy sigh). I assign you to watch Canelo’s win over Trout. a perfectly-balanced, boxing-punching performance v. the man who utterly dominated Cotto. Btw, if Lara ever earns a bout v. Canelo, Alvarez will improve on Angulo’s performance and put an end to that hype-job for good. bottomline, he continues to evolve and experiment with different fight-plans depending on the fighter. how effectively multi-dimensional he becomes remains to be seen but what is obvious is that he aspires to be a complete and versatile boxer-puncher NOT predictable boxer or puncher.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:31 pm 

Joseph Herron

te tumbo: “Canelo doesn’t see himself as a KO puncher or brawler. he sees himself or aspires to be a boxer-puncher who can avoid punishment while dishing-it-out. closer to DLH or Mikey Garcia than Mathysse or Maidana.”

Canelo’s biggest obstacle in this fight will be his punch output and his tendency to punch flatfooted, combining speed with power. Canelo is incapable of putting on a performance like Erislandy Lara because he cannot let his hands go while moving his feet, and cannot usually let his hand go with volume.

Alvarez had better hurt Alfredo Angulo to the body early with his explosive, but stationary and sporadic offense. If he doesn’t, he’s going to be in for some very long rounds.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:00 pm 


It is one thing to say this should not be on PPV which I completely agree with but to dismiss Angulo is just ridiculous.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:44 pm 

Hec Dog

I already bet my neighbor on this horrible match up. If Angulo wins, I cut his lawn for a year with my teeth.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:36 pm 

te tumbo

Canelo doesn’t see himself as a KO puncher or brawler. he sees himself or aspires to be a boxer-puncher who can avoid punishment while dishing-it-out. closer to DLH or Mikey Garcia than Mathysse or Maidana. he’ll be looking to improve on Lara’s struggles by relying on superior speed, reflexes, angles, counters, and leads to score the TKO or earn the UD. Angulo’s challenge will be to pry-open Canelo’s defense with rugged pressure but I think that’s what Canelo is preparing for and counting on.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:35 pm 

Liver Shot

Pacquiao vs Bradley and Canelo vs Angulo have no business on PPV unless they are on under cards or have great under cards to carry the event. Not paying to see either and not paying for a Mayweather sparring session.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:02 pm 

Joseph Herron

If anyone truly believes that the former WBO title holder doesn’t have a prayer to defeat Canelo on March 8th, go back and watch his fights with Erislandy lara, Joel Julio, and Gabe Rosado.

Although Angulo doesn’t have the best defense in the business, he might just have the best chin within the 154 pound weight division.

How is Canelo going to react when he sees a fighter take his best shots and continue to move forward? Is Canelo going to have the same power when he’s forced to move around the ring and can’t plant his feet? Is he going to be able to use the entire ring for three minutes of every round? Can he take a punch from one of the hardest punchers in the Junior Middleweight division?

There are so many questions surrounding this match-up…it’s a very intriguing bout and I personally can’t wait to see it!!

You guys can try to ignore the splendor of this style pairing, but I will be tuning in on March 8th!!

Posted February 13, 2014 7:01 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“This should be on HBO boxing after dark or showtime championship boxing. PPV? negative!!!” – Cosign.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:51 pm 


wow. this is ppv?

Posted February 13, 2014 5:37 pm 


Angulos chances are not slim and none. This fight is about a 60 40 fight in favor or Canelo. Probably closer than that. I think Angulo has a real chance of pulling this fight off. Canelo is no mover and it won’t be hard for Angulo to find him. I really don’t think the weight helped that much with Rios. Rios will be better of being at 140. He had no problem making that weight. The one think you have to recognize is that he is coming off a loss also. Heck they both are so they really need each other. There is no need for Canelo to jump in with a world beater right off the bat. But I agree, this is no PPV fight.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:13 pm 


PEEJ my friend, there are some similarities, but if you break down Angulo’s skills set and victories over top fighters, there’s not much there. Rios was at least a former champion and had a good record, and the weight helped him. He was the bigger man. Angulo’s chances are slim and none. Being tough and strong rarely amount to anything in boxing. Canelo has all the advantages, but I do question his chin somewhat, so that’s Angulo’s only chance. No speed, no technical boxing skills, no jab, no movement, no defense equals a lot of punishment fro him. Manny Pacquiao is already established and his legacy is cemented. It really doesn’t matter who he fights because he’s proven himself over and over. Canelo should be fighting quality fighters because he’s young, just fought Mayweather and needs to continue fighting high level guys. Angulo has little even though he is a true brawler with a big fighting heart. I’ll watch it at a later date or at the local sports bar is it’s offered, but I can’t pay a penny for this.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:00 pm 


This should be on HBO boxing after dark or showtime championship boxing. PPV? negative!!!

Posted February 13, 2014 4:35 pm 


Hec Dog you really need to stop that. You have a double standard for everybody but Pac. You claim this is not a PPV event, I actually agree with you on that but you need to recognize and admit Pac vs Rios was no PPV event. Especially after the numbers. What had Rios done to get a shot at Pac? This is somewhat similar in that they are both coming off loses as was Pac and Rios. Difference here is that they are actually in the same weight class. Angula actually has a shot to win here. Canelo has never fought a real Jr Middle that hits as hard and Angulo and this is really his 2nd Jr Middle he has ever fought. I agree it is no PPV event but this fight somewhat mirrors the Pac vs Rios fight. The difference is Angulo has a chance and they are in the same weight class.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:22 pm 

Hec Dog

Gentlemen, what exactly has Angulo done? What has Canelo done? Both guys coming off loses. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand is a legend that has accomplished more than those two and the rest of today’s boxing champions put together. Is Rios and Angulo similar? maybe so, but a PPV event? come on. Canelo is more hype than substance until he proves otherwise. Fans need to see competitive fights, and some legendary champions like Manny Pacquiao deserve an easy fight every so often. His fight record is quite impressive so if Rios was an easy fight, Manny is deserving of one. If you guys want to pay for this PPV fight go right ahead, but you’ll regret it. Save your money for Manny Pacquiao vs Timothy Bradley.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:10 pm 

Liver Shot

Everyone is calling this a perfect fight for Canelo in that Angulo is made to order. Mayweather outclassed and gave Canelo a boxing lesson we can all agree on that. Canelo had his hands full with Trout and came out ahead on the score cards. Mayweather nor Trout are Bangers like Angulo and unlike the Human punching bag Rios Angulo hits back and hits back hard. How great would it be if Angulo stormed out of his corner and attacked Canelo and we are treated to Hagler vs Hearns fight. Angulo is a fighter and will bring it, Canelo the boxer/puncher. This fight may play out on who can take more than the other. Canelo has never been hit, it will be interesting to see what happens when he does. This could be the perfect storm and not the easy out the Canelo camp was hoping for.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:36 pm 

Tomato Can

That is unless you’re a fan totally mezmerized by Pacquiao. If that’s the case, no fight card compairs to a fight card featuring Pacquiao. You put Pac in with any unskilled fighter and some fans will be happy.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:08 pm 

Tomato Can

Peej, pretty much… Like I posted earlier, this card easily beats, last years, Top Rank, Macoa card.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:04 pm 


Hec Dog so basically you are saying this fight resembles the same fight as Pac vs Rios. And you are now saying that that fight was not boxing either and should of never happened?

Posted February 13, 2014 2:37 pm 

Hec Dog

Canelo vs Angulo will pit one fighter, Alfredo Angulo, a tough, strong chinned human punching bag that has very few boxing skills. A fighter that endures a lot, but lacks too much to be any kind of threat to the second fighter, Canelo Alvarez. This is a tailor made fight made for Canelo. This fight will resemble Larry Holmes vs Randall “Tex” Cobb, back in the day. A 12 round, one sided pummeling for all the sadists out there to see or a punishing mid to late round stoppage ends the savagery. This is not boxing. Canelo has no business fighting Angulo other than to make himself look good to his many loyal Mexican fans that will pay for this. Good old GBP sure knows how to milk loyal dedicated fans out of their money. Angulo’s style can only take so much punishment. His body is deteriorating each and every fight. Look at his face after every fight. Does anyone really think that one of these promoters care about this man’s health? A sacrificial lamb to the younger more popular fighter. The next Chavez. The next Mexican hero to follow. Canelo won’t fight the other top Junior Middleweights or Middleweights because he can’t beat them and he needs to milk all the money he can before even taking chance on fighting them. Canelo has talent, but he won’t be anything special, trust me. I will be pulling for Angulo to land a lucky KO punch and win this fight, but that’s not going to happen. Canelo wins this fight, and I would bet my home, cars, paycheck, retirement and my valuable Manny Pacquiao autographed pictures on it.

Posted February 13, 2014 2:30 pm 


I think he has more of a punchers chance. Yes his foot work is bad, maybe it will improve with sparring with Ward and Khan. But Canelo is not the most fleet footed either and is not the so called boxer people claimed him to be after the Trout fight.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:50 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Yes Angulo is the ideal opponent for Canelo. His footwork is poor, he’s virtually immobile, and he has withered while under pressure in multiple fights. On the flip side, he bangs hard enough to buoy interest among Mexican fans. Basically a sitting duck with a puncher’s chance.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:47 pm 

Tomato Can

Agreed Peej…

Posted February 13, 2014 1:23 pm 

Tomato Can

Angulo is very hitable. He’s the polor opposite of Mayweather. However, how many fighters has Canelo faced that are natural JWW’s like Angulo? None??? This makes the fight interesting to me. I still think Angulo will get busted up, in this one.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:15 pm 


Exactly. Funny how folks rate Lara the best at 154 even though he had a draw which probably should of been a loss against Molina and had a draw with Vanes, and almost got KOd by Angulo. I believe Angulo would of done it also if it wasn’t for that last 3 or 4 punch combo that Lara issued.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:04 pm 

Joseph Herron

Good observation, Peej.

Alfredo Angulo is always a dangerous outing for any fighter. Just ask Lara what a difficult opponent “El Perro” was last year.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:59 pm 


This is a come back fight for Canelo. A very tough one at that considering this will be only his 2nd true Jr Middle he has ever faced and he is actually one of the harder punching Jr Middles too. I favor Canelo but only slightly

Posted February 13, 2014 12:50 pm 

Joseph Herron

Public Enemy: “Come Back??? LOL as if he had ever really arrived!!! just in the minds of delusional Kool Aid Drinkin Chihuahuas.. like Dumbo BWWHAHHAHHHAA”

It’s quite literally Canelo’s return bout and comeback fight since losing to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

I think you and Hank are taking Joel Diaz’s word choice completely out of context.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:31 pm 

Joseph Herron

Thanks for the apology, Bobcat…yes, anything less than a virtual shut out for Floyd Mayeather should be considered controversial.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:26 pm 


No my bad, somebody was trying to argue with me on that one, the writer was right afterall, apologies please but yes Canelo is gonna look good no doubt.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:17 pm 


Canelos last fight was a controversial decision loss to Floyd? really this writer is something else.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:15 pm 

ginger perro

What comeback thats a stupid title comeback hahah!!

Posted February 13, 2014 10:46 am 


Is it really a come-back? Did anyone really think he was going to beat Mayweather?

Fighting Mayweather is a lottery ticket waiting to be cashed.
Nobody expects you to win, you don’t take any real punishment and you collect a giant paycheck.

I don’t remember anyone being excited to fight a prime Mike Tyson.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:53 am 

Joseph Herron

Luke: “Joseph … Ur doing a good job of getting me to shell over the cash for this PPPV … U getting a percent:))”

LOL…I wish, Luke!! It’s just a great match-up in which both fighters have stunning KO power.

Like Joel stated on Tuesday night’s show, Alfredo is by far the hardest puncher Canelo has ever faced. He’s a relentless bull who is going to be in Canelo’s grill from start to finish.

So if Canelo can’t get Angulo’s respect early, it’s going to be a very long evening for Alvarez.

Great match-up…kudos to both fighters for making this happen!!

Posted February 13, 2014 8:46 am 


@Public Enemy – “who got destroyed by Cuban Lara”
Lara won fair and square, but he hardly “destroyed” Angulo… in fact Lara was losing the fight up until that point and was on shakey ground himself at times.

In terms of Canelo, the kid is coming off a loss. What did you expect him to do? Take the best guy in the division immediately???
Let’s not forget that Lara is Mayweather’s mandatory, not Canelo’s, so there’s only one person around at the moment who is actually obliged to fight Lara.

Let’s see who Canelo picks as his next opponent (assuming he wins this fight) and then think about throwing stones.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:42 am 


Not the perfect match is James Kirkland vs El Canelo Alvarez. I hope that fight will be next…

Posted February 13, 2014 7:22 am 

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