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JT wants to be in the next Olympics?! Sorry, dude, there’s no pie-eating competition.

Posted August 11, 2012 7:30 am 


Unfortunately I also agree with Toney. Toney would be a good sparring session for Fury. Fury by decision, but Toney still has enough left where Fury can learn something from the fight.

Posted August 9, 2012 9:58 am 


how about the usa had to fight their opponents AND the judges !!!

Posted August 8, 2012 11:47 pm 


james toney,on the other hand, is a CLOWN

Posted August 8, 2012 11:45 pm 


if you go by medal count -you guys are right but half of team usa’s losses were bs decisions and the other half were close bouts…with the exception of the super hwts and hwts all of these guys are gonna be exceptional pros

Posted August 8, 2012 11:43 pm 


This is the only time I have ever agreed with James Toney.

Posted August 8, 2012 10:20 pm 


look at all the world champions Mexico produces. most of them have no amateur back ground. they just learn on the job,and their boxing is certainly not tied to collage or schooling of any kind that i know of?

Posted August 8, 2012 9:48 pm 

Ray Ray

Olympic boxing is not a necessity or very highly rated I’n my books…the scoring is a joke whoever throws the most punches wins. Defense, body punches, stamina and strategy aren’t involved at all..plenty of good pros out there winning titles that didn’t need the olympics… It’s also corrupt..what was the name of the guy that beat Roy jones what’s he done since? How many world champs In the pros do countries like India, uzbekastan, Oman, and Syria have? These type of countries have won loads of medals at Olympic level…. Means nothing. Give me a Bernard Hopkins any day. I’m sure b hop and the likes r more proud of there pro careers and setting ul there family’s financially than some medal that’s worth nothing.

Posted August 8, 2012 8:59 pm 


One last big pay-day for ‘Lights out’ if he gets Fury. He will lose of course, not saying that Fury is anything special, but Toney couldn’t cope with the size and hand speed plus power. Financially a good move for him, but stop the 5 year BS, you’ve had over 70 fights, unheard of at this weight today. Arrogance is always a dangerous lonely place to be.
I hate it when a legend doesn’t know when to say goodbye. Nobody wins. I feel I can swim the Irish Sea, can I do it? Not today. Or tomorrow.

Posted August 8, 2012 8:37 pm 


The other thing I noticed is I talked to Irelands amateur team a few years back and those guys get paid. You pay fighters and I guarantee you there will be a difference from making sure these guys medal.

Posted August 8, 2012 8:37 pm 


I don’t agree with boxing in college ruining American amateurs. I boxed as a youth in the 80s and at least for me I never even heard of college boxing. Before that in 76 we had 5 Olympic gold medalists in 80 we had a great team who a lot got killed in a plane crash and also boycotted Moscow, 84 another great team 88 another great team 92 started slipping and we know the rest. Point being none of the boxers in the Olympics were College boxers. Whats ruining it is true amateur styles in the gyms. Most gyms Ive seen nowdays (the ones my kid boxed at) teach a pro style throw left hook to the liver etc. instead of 100 punches a round to score points like the successful international amateurs are doing. This doesn’t translate into a good pro though.

Posted August 8, 2012 8:30 pm 

Kid Blast

Lebedev swept the floor with this demented corpse. Enough already. STFU!!!!!!! :evil: :evil:

Posted August 8, 2012 8:12 pm 


Typical Tony,,, Blah blah blah, ?¿Enough said!!!

Posted August 8, 2012 7:21 pm 


Lol. The US have problems finding decent ‘pro’ boxers let alone ‘amateur’ ones…… :mrgreen:

Posted August 8, 2012 7:01 pm 

Fight Aficionado

terror tim is exactly correct. When the NCAA desanctioned boxing it was the beginning of the end. Olympic athletes are mainly built at universities and when boxing was no longer a scholarship sport it snuffed out the development of boxers as they went from teenagers to young adult. Now it’s basically teen to pro, skipping a critical point of development. Boxing never should’ve been cut from collegiate athletics.

Posted August 8, 2012 6:22 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Toney’s just stating facts here and while I don’t think they’re all ‘garbage’ the fact is this is officially the worst US Olympic boxing team in history. 0 medals, all but one smoked out of the tourney by the second round, Spence in round 3 only due to a protest. USA Boxing should be widely vilified for this utter failure.

Posted August 8, 2012 6:13 pm 


Hahaha Brian says “Before the 90′s the Olympics were legit when it came to Boxing” So I guess you agreed with the Roy Jones Jr decision in 1988. LOL Listen to Dara and you might learn something, fool.

Posted August 8, 2012 5:59 pm 


Peterson the cheat?

Posted August 8, 2012 5:56 pm 

terror tim

I agree that Olympic Boxing needs fixing but not by letting the pros in. Who wants to watch Olympic basketball? We know who will win, what fun is that? I am glad that boxing is really the last sport in the Olympics that treat it like it is suppose to. This is how we find our future stars.

Posted August 8, 2012 3:29 pm 

terror tim

Miles past us? Who is the best boxer right now? Floyd. Broner is as good as a young boxer as any country can boast. Yes the rest of the world has caught up but the USA is still putting out great fighters. Ward just showed that as well.

Posted August 8, 2012 3:27 pm 

terror tim

Here in the States college sports are the life blood of most of our athletics. Even in the Olympics you will see that most, not all but most, competed at the NCAA level first.

The link is that will have another level of competition for that athlete to climb and that level will attract athletes because they can get a college education for free. If you took College football away here the NFL would suffer the same fate boxing did. I know in Europe it is different but that is the difference in our cultures.

Posted August 8, 2012 3:25 pm 


Too bad James Toney is too chicken to call out David Haye or Bernard Hopkins.

Posted August 8, 2012 3:13 pm 


controlled by a little geek in Vegas some where

Posted August 8, 2012 3:06 pm 


What exactly would be remotely appealing about a Toney – Fury fight?

Posted August 8, 2012 3:05 pm 


If MMA champ would translate as “very good boxer”, they all would box, because there is so much more money to make against the Klitschkos.

Posted August 8, 2012 3:02 pm 


Once upon a time i loved james toney. Time to go.

Posted August 8, 2012 2:51 pm 


americans have lost all heart for a fight now they just send in the drones

Posted August 8, 2012 2:50 pm 


Its not the oympics its the trainers that are out there every fighter had a different trainer before making the oympic team face it most good amateur trainers have left the amateur ranks with the first star they get only thing is that some of them are just chasing a dollar the one kid tried 2 or 3times and did the same thing all three times which tells me he didn’t learn anything in 8-12 years what a shame and the bad thing about it is that everyone of them was worried about getting tired or getting hit either that leaves them on pause for a few min. of the fight and causes them to lose. My trainer tought us that a lose is a lose whether you get knocked out or lose by decision you might as well go for broke and leave it all in the ring.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:58 pm 


Why do you need to link boxing to scholarship and university? In Europe we do our amateur sports in our spare-time and after school/university and not as a part of it. I know some Danish swimmers joins American universities not for studying but for their swimming programs. Strange. That is kind of semi-pro.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:55 pm 


American would had won 6 golds had the judges not been corrupt???? You reckon? Let’s see who the big promoters try to sign after the games. The Americans that were “robbed off all the golds or the fighters who medal.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:53 pm 


I like how it’s always “our team is bad”. Maybe it’s just that they’re up against stiffer competition than previous teams.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:53 pm 


Why are you posting on a boxing website. Seriously man you haven’t got a clue. I am nearly thinking your posts are a wind up. All the greats I mentioned earlier learned their trade in the amateur ranks. That’s were the skil and guile comes from Hit and not be hit. Protecting the kids from brain damage so if they are good enough there they can try and make a living in the pro game. I don’t have the time or the will to educate you about the sport. Go watch to clumsy wrestlers throwing haymakers in mma if that’s your thing

Posted August 8, 2012 1:51 pm 


You’re stuck in the past. Before the 90’s the Olympics were legit when it came to Boxing, but the way fights are scored now make no sense and the Refs, Judges, and other officials are inept and corrupt.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:49 pm 


Whatever, The Olympic version of the sport is a joke now that is run by a bunch of clowns. If I was a Trainer I wouldn’t even waste time training a Fighter for this crap. Go Pro and make the money as soon as you can.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:43 pm 


What the hell are you talking about letting pros into the Olympic boxing to fight the future world champs.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:38 pm 


Most future world champions and greats come for the Olympics. Oscar Del Hoya, Ali, Spinks, Spinks, Foreman, Sugar Ray L, Roy Jones, Ward, Wlad Klit, Lennox Lewis. The list is endless.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:36 pm 


I’m strongly opposed to allow pros in Olympics. Boxing is a contact sport. During a fight a pro-boxer can cause a serious damage to an armature boxer. Leave an armature exhibition to armatures.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:32 pm 


Don’t judge the US Boxing Talent by the Olympics or the Heavyweight Division. All you can talk about is Vlad and Vitali while I can throw out Mayweather,Ward,Dawson,Bradley,Broner,Garcia,Berto,Ortiz,Russell,Peterson,Alexander,Cloud. Get your facts straight.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:32 pm 


He’s right about our team – awful showing.

He’ll always run his mouth about fighting the biggest and best guys knowing he’ll never get those fights. Toney, at this point is a C-Level fighter. Great fighter in his prime and even past prime..but he WAY past prime now and it showed in his last few fights.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:30 pm 


You haven’t got a clue

Posted August 8, 2012 1:29 pm 


Excellent point! I truly fear for the future or boxing

Posted August 8, 2012 1:28 pm 


Olympic Boxing is garbage period! Need to let Pros compete with Pro style Judging and Rules along with a whole new organization to oversee it. Why can I see the best in their sports when I watch Olympic Basketball, Tennis, Track, or Soccer but I have to watch Amateurs when it comes to Boxing? The Olympic comittee needs to get off their high horse and let Promoters put money into Olympic Boxing and let them pay Pros to compete. What Pro Boxer wouldn’t want all the exposure they would get fighting in the Olympics. You can say that it will never happen but before 92 nobody ever thought you would see the Dream Team.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:24 pm 


Toney is 100% right. Because he is not an A level fighter any more some clowns on here think he should curl up and die some where. Stop with the excuses saying the Americans are playing basketball and baseball. You just have not got the talent. The rest of the world has caught up with you and gone miles past you. America can not compete any more so they come up with this garbage excuse saying all the talent is playing other sports. Was baseball only invented 10 years ago with basketball??? Vitali and Wlad are only champs because “your” talented guys are playing other sports. Every other country in the world has 2,3,4,5,6, even 7 sports before boxing but they can compete just fine. America just has no talent coming thru the boxing ranks. No heart for the the fight. End of story. Sad but true

Posted August 8, 2012 1:24 pm 


I haven’t seen one guy playing any of those sports along with MMA who look like they could have been a great Boxer. It’s more than just about being a great athlete.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:19 pm 


The US could still have an Olympic boxing medal, it just won’t be a guy.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:11 pm 


Terror- Very interesting point. Even Ivy league schools had boxing teams back in the day. My grandfather actually boxed while attending Georgetown University. Of all the things hurting boxing in the US, not having Olimpic heroes is probably the worst, as an Olympic champion is a national hero even before his first pro fight. Now there’s another generation of American fighters who have to work their way into the national spotlight from scratch.

Posted August 8, 2012 1:09 pm 


toney you could nt knock me out and i havent put a glove on for 45 years and id still knock f,,, out of ye

Posted August 8, 2012 1:08 pm 

terror tim

This is the worse squad ever for the Americans regardless of what Toney says. Not one medal winner which is even worse than the 2008 Olympic team which was the worse up to that point. Thought we had a couple of guys who could make some noise but it didn’t happen. The problem isn’t guys going into other sports, every country has that. The problem is that kids don’t box competitively as amateurs in the states. The main reason started back in 1960 when Charlie Mohr died at the University of Wisconsin. The NCAA than pulled boxing as a sport you could get a scholarship for thus killing a large talent pool. Now an athlete couldn’t further himself in life with boxing. It killed the life blood of the sport. Sure we still have youth leagues but they are slowly closing down as well. Boxing will be strictly a pro sport for the US pretty soon I fear.

Posted August 8, 2012 12:52 pm 

The Kingslayer

Please for the love of god stop giving this tub of lard attention.

Posted August 8, 2012 12:50 pm 


I think “BEARS”, post is so right on point, what is the sense of hearing anything from yesterdays news, Toney was once a great fighter, now he is hurting his legacy, he couldn’t compete with the current champions, at any weight he got down to, his reflexes are gone and training, eating habits are terrible, his mouth is not going to intimidate anyone.

Posted August 8, 2012 12:18 pm 


Toney is a twat

Posted August 8, 2012 12:18 pm 


The lack of US success in boxing is because all potential great boxers from minimum weight to super heavy goes to Basketball, Baseball or Football :mrgreen:

Posted August 8, 2012 12:10 pm 

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