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I can’t believe the fat Mexican man was trying to pummel the sick old man. No class no dignity. That’s sad and pathetic.

Posted November 23, 2013 7:37 pm 


123 — why should Mexicans hate PAC ?? Do you rather see PAC curse Mexicans so that way you would respect him? PAC never insults anyone he does however kick boxers ars!!!!

Posted November 23, 2013 1:42 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Golden eagles ain’t sh-it compared to my kind. Let’s see how tough they are when they’ve got a mouthful of highly acidic vulture puke burning their corneas. You ever tried fending off a angry lappet-faced vulture blind?

Posted November 23, 2013 10:44 am 

Gonzo the Vulture

Regarding your accusation of me being insensitive to ”Mexicans”? What utter gobbledygook. I love the Mexicans. Some of my favourite fighters are from Mexican: Carlos Monzon, Alexis Argüello, Wilfredo Benitez, Hector Camacho, Lucas Matthysse etc. And I actually have acquaintances who know people who’ve spoken to Mexican people before too.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:35 am 

Gonzo the Vulture

te tumbo.. It’s no skin of my back. The only things I give a crap about since making the transformation to full vulture is 1. Spreading vulture awareness whenever and wherever I can. 2. soaring the deep blue azure tropical skies of South America looking for fresh sloth carcasses to feast upon. 3. When I’ve got a bit of down time, chewing the cyber cud with all my buddies on the Golden Retriever forums. Everyone and everything else can go f@ck themselves as far as I’m concerned.

Posted November 23, 2013 10:31 am 



Posted November 22, 2013 5:32 pm 


All Mexican fighters should switch over to Showtime and fight here in the USA on Mexican Holidays and have Manny fight other Filipinos or Asians in China and lets see who’s got the most PPV Showtime or HBO.

Posted November 22, 2013 3:18 pm 


Roach plans are ASSAULTING photographers like team Pacquiao did the last time he almost got KILL/KO by Marquez and it was live on HBO and insulting Mexicans and Jews and its live on ESNEWSREPORTING.COM @ElieSeckbach…..A feud between Ariza and Roach should be a total separate affair that should not be taken out on any Race.

Posted November 22, 2013 3:14 pm 


Anonymous ……A wet-back is the same as a dry ar*e

Posted November 22, 2013 3:01 pm 


Ahh Tumba, go back to your barbies and stop wasting our time on here…

Posted November 21, 2013 9:22 pm 

te tumbo

KC, STFU you clueless clown.

Posted November 21, 2013 9:16 pm 


Just goes to show that Fraud Maypretender will never be the peoples champ. Fraud will be thought of as a punk thug wanna be and lets not forget a women beater. That’s why they have him doing more Public relations friendly stuff to “soften up his fake image”. If it weren’t for Frauds dad and uncle he have certainly ended up doing a long prison stretch had it not been for them keeping him under their umbrella shade…. Fraud finna run thru his moneys fast as can be once his career comes to a screeching halt. Where’s he gonna get work? He couldn’t even land a job at McDonalds….

Posted November 21, 2013 9:01 pm 


“Well lets see some proof of the world wide fans Pac is drawing.”

Geezuz, Peej, Pacquiao’s round the world popularity is a well-known fact. Money doesn’t always equate to popularity and vice-a-versa.

Posted November 21, 2013 6:08 pm 


Well lets see some proof of the world wide fans Pac is drawing. Be nice to see proof since Floyd is what the most paid athlete in sports. If Pac was drawing all these fans I think he would be the most paid. But he is not.

Posted November 21, 2013 5:03 pm 


“i’m also gonna give Seckbach the time of day next time i see him. ”

he wont give YOU the time of day.

Posted November 21, 2013 4:48 pm 


wats a wetba#k.

Posted November 21, 2013 4:10 pm 


tetumboozo a racist a pervert that drools over other men.

Posted November 21, 2013 1:05 pm 

te tumbo

GONZO, the time has arrived for us to soar our separate ways. You are as insensitive to “F’n Mexicans” as the rest of the world is to vultures. Shame on you! being a member in good standing of the vulture-loving community, you more than anyone should know better. consequently, i turn in my own vulture creds and will now remain focused on the “F’n Mexican” Golden Eagle who would tear ANY vulture in the world to F’n shreds. Fly long and prosper bird of a different feather . . . but Stay the F’k Out of My Way . . . (f’n vulture).

Posted November 21, 2013 12:40 pm 

te tumbo

i’m also gonna give Seckbach the time of day next time i see him. i enjoy his interviews but am generally indifferent but not any more. he may even get honorary “Jewcano” status if HE’s able to get a shot in on that muttering-stuttering Prick, Roach.

Posted November 21, 2013 12:07 pm 

te tumbo

i Will make a point to shake the hand and take a picture with the man who told Little Lord Freddie to “Go F’k Yourself” and “GTFOH” before kicking him in the chest (lol). Priceless . . . Viva Ariza!

Posted November 21, 2013 12:05 pm 


Yes you are an idiot. Its ok, you have been one your whole life. Sucks but I guess it is just something you have to deal with.

Posted November 21, 2013 11:49 am 

Gonzo the Vulture

Firstly, who said you could spell Brother Adrian’s name with an E? You must’ve had one of your Broner wet dreams again last night and dream ghost of him is floating around in your brain zone.

And are you sure you don’t hate Roach because he has Parkinson’s? I’m sorry but I’m having a real hard time believing that given your propensity for telling tales and your well-established sadistic streak.

Posted November 21, 2013 11:28 am 


tetumbozo is the biggest slime ball pervert he should be shunned at every chance

Posted November 21, 2013 11:25 am 


I don’t dislike Roach at all. And him having Parkinson has no bearing towards my feelings towards him or anybody else. It may sway your opinion. But that is you. And apparently that is unfortunate.

Posted November 21, 2013 11:14 am 


Hecdog you are wrong. The simple fact that he is only expected to maybe get 750 thousand PPV buys proves the fact that he is not what the people want to see world wide. Maybe he will prove me wrong by doing more PPV buys but if not then well the proof is in the numbers.

Posted November 21, 2013 11:13 am 


What is such a surprise Adrien? The fact that Roach went towards Ariza? The fact that he was talking crap to Garcia? I already said Ariza was in the wrong. So what is such a surprise?

Posted November 21, 2013 11:12 am 


No respect to Garcia he is such a girl. He is no better than that ball point pen Mex thug that went crazy. Take the short thug out get him outtta here !

Posted November 21, 2013 10:13 am 

MNboxingFAN – Sean

Notice that Rios was on a machine and continuing to work out? This wasn’t just interviews that ran over time. Interviews can be done in the parking lot or lobby and don’t need to be handled in the gym. Both sides are playing games. Come Sat. the only game that matters will take place inside the ring.

Posted November 21, 2013 9:21 am 

Gonzo the Vulture

PEEJ you hate Roach because he has Parkinson’s.

Posted November 21, 2013 8:52 am 

Gonzo the Vulture

Same goes for Tier 2 poster Brother Adrian too.

Posted November 21, 2013 8:30 am 

Gonzo the Vulture

Brother Hidalgo has the beat.

Solid Tier 2 posting as always.

Posted November 21, 2013 8:25 am 


Stupid Ariza. Stupid Garcia.

Posted November 21, 2013 3:41 am 



Roach was clearly the aggressor here. But I must say Ariza is a coward for doing that. Really what was going to happen with all those people around. That was a coward act. Roach was clearly in the wrong here but so was Ariza. Terrible.

Posted November 20, 2013 11:45 am

Off course you think that ! What a surprise

Posted November 21, 2013 2:21 am 


What a joke these fools are. Grown men acting like J.H.S. kids. How can these guys call Roach a racist when Mexicans are so racist themselves? I didn’t realize Garcia was such a vagina.

Posted November 20, 2013 10:38 pm 

te tumbo

Im not racist I swallowed Mayweather’s chocolate jizz too.

Posted November 20, 2013 10:34 pm 


Throughing the word RACIST around like a baby crying whaa whaa.

Posted November 20, 2013 8:31 pm 


They just wanted the fight to be entertaining, it’s called “Selling Tickets”

Posted November 20, 2013 8:16 pm 


go run and tell someone on me you little rat weasel

Posted November 20, 2013 7:57 pm 


nope your the racist pervert around here. roach called a mexican a mexican. just like i call you a stupid pervert talking about swallowing diks. what a scumb3g you are.

Posted November 20, 2013 7:56 pm 


PEEJ my friend, Manny draws more fans world wide better than anyone. I don’t care if they sell $1 tickets, the fact is that people want to see Manny Pacquiao more than any other athlete in the world. Sure there’s afinancial plan for things, but that doesn’t change the fact that Manny is the most popular and beloved athlete ever. Give this man his just due. People love, respect and admire Manny Pacquiao. He’s going to make at least 25-35 million for this fight. Manny can draw anywhere in the world.

Posted November 20, 2013 7:54 pm 

te tumbo

Deepthroat you must be a racist piece of shat like Roach.

Posted November 20, 2013 7:38 pm 


good job roach. roach will get more fans from this.

Posted November 20, 2013 7:32 pm 

HH London

About time someone kicked Roach in his vagina.

Posted November 20, 2013 7:10 pm 


Who’s the a$$ hole in the red T -shirt at the end of the video who mocks Roach’s parkinson related stutter?? Wot a low life scum bag that man is.

Posted November 20, 2013 6:35 pm 

Ben Hill

If Michael Moorer was the guy with the wild card shirt Ariza and the porky dwarf would have do nothing to Roach even in words! Team Pacquiao should have keep Moorer and put Ariza out few years ago

Posted November 20, 2013 5:31 pm 


Well they are only saying they are expecting about 750 thousand buys. To me that is not a successful PPV event for someone of Pacs stature. And if it really does that then I don’t think his last few fights since Mosley has even pulled over a mil. They stopped showing Pacs PPV sells ever since Floyd started asking for a bigger piece of the pie when they where negotiating.

Posted November 20, 2013 5:27 pm 


Elie Seckbach is a known liar that is true !

Posted November 20, 2013 5:17 pm 

PEEJ – it really doesn’t matter if the fight was held in a private ballroom with 10 people watching. Top Rank is counting on the revenue of the PPV. Bob Arum is business savy, he would not attempt a Macau fight if he knew he wouldn’t be making tons of money. Money off of Pacquiao’s back, I should say.

Posted November 20, 2013 5:16 pm 


Seeback is a disgusting liar. What a way to use the racist card especially the jewish one.

Posted November 20, 2013 5:15 pm 


I have a firm grasp of economics. Now I ask you, do they have a venue that can hold a million people? I am responding to the guy that said they sold out and said lets see another fighter do that. Any fighter will sell a stadium out if they are selling 5 dollar tickets. Canelo sold over 40000 in the alamo dome, but he was also selling tickets for 10 bucks.

Posted November 20, 2013 5:07 pm 


good post ….. . dont expect dummies to know about economics. they just know how to retweet seekback because a rapper said his name in a crap record

Posted November 20, 2013 5:03 pm 


hey not all jews are bad man but seekback makes a clown of himself. no ethnic slur was said to him. where is the audio? this guy is all over the internet saying roach hates jews trying to get people on his side. he retweets any clown thats says freddie went too far. its all a set up and intelligent people have him figuered out

Posted November 20, 2013 5:01 pm 

PEEJ – you sure have no idea know anything about business nor how economics work. It really very simple. You gain profit when you lower the price of a commodity or service IF you know that you will compensate that for the quantity of costumers. If PPV was $5 in China, the fact that China has a 1.2 billion population makes up for that. Like say, if a small percentage of that population, say 100 million homes watch the fight, multiply that by 5, what do you get? Yup.

Posted November 20, 2013 4:59 pm 


The fight is sold out in China because Tickets where like 5 bucks. lol. Anybody can sell anything out with cheap tickets like that.

Posted November 20, 2013 4:50 pm 


ariza is clearly one of those toxic human beings. everything he touches is corrupted

Posted November 20, 2013 4:50 pm 


I used to respect Robert Garcia, but he lost all my respect when that video mocking Parkinson’s disease went out. It can be clearly seen in that video that he was the one who prodded Rios into making the impression. He is now playing the victim and the good guy, but all that sh|t is fake.

In that video, there’s also Margarito, who we all know now is a cheating piece of garbage.

Rios, well, we all know that Rios is not right in the head. He has 1/4 the size of a normal human brain.

And the real root root of it all is the jew. he was the one goading, prodding, instigating it all. he goes about like “hey, he said this about you…”, then goes to the other guy and says to him “listen, he said this about you…”, and so on, and so forth. If he’s dreaming og becoming a Lem satterfied, a Dan Rafael, a Kevin Iole or a Max Kellerman, then the jew is dreaming out of his ass. With what he does, he’ll always be just a low, amateur, childish, man-loving blogger who likes to hang out with real men to smell their sweat and manipulate them. That’s his thing. He gets his rocks manipulating and putting real fighting men under his jewish spell, all the while with that smile on his jewish face.

Posted November 20, 2013 4:44 pm 


Hidalgo is right this all goes back a long way. type into youtube margerito freddie roach. rios margerito and garcia are classless and they should have given freddie a pass, the worst part of it all was they are taking the pee out of roach’s condition in this video. no class whatsoever

Posted November 20, 2013 4:38 pm 

All of you, before offering your opinions, go to YouTube and copy and paste this video title, without the quotes, in the search bar to hear the clip to have a clearer handle on how all this started:

“Yahoo’s Iole on Margarito mocking on Roach and journalist’s role”

The real root of it all is a jew named Elie Seckbach. He instigated the feud and played all the guys against each other like second hand fiddles. Hear the narrative clip. I concede that Roach went about it the wrong way regarding the gym time thing, but hey, he was already pissed off to begin with, about that perkinson mocking video of Garcia, Rios and Margarito, then add to that the presence of Ariza and you have that altercation in Macau. Hear the clip to understand the whole thing. Excellent comments by Kvin Iole of Yahoo! Sports regarding the jew “reporter” Seckbach.

Posted November 20, 2013 4:34 pm 


Anonymous – Relax dude, I even said “it’s not his fault, due to his disease”…it’s unfortunate and I never “made fun” of it, I was simply stating a fact, the disease has it’s side effects and that’s why I feel it wouldn’t be wise for him to engage in physical confrontation with a perfectly healthy man. Roach knows that getting in a fist fight can be extremely dangerous, which is why he called for security once he was struck…I never said I can kick his a** and nor do I condone hitting a disabled person…you took my comments WAY out of context.

Posted November 20, 2013 4:27 pm 


sold out fight all the way over in china, boxtradumba$$. lets see other “big league” fighters do that.

Posted November 20, 2013 4:13 pm 



“Fight Aficionado – I’d still pick Ariza to toss Roach around like a rag doll, it’s not his fault of course, but due to his disease Roach’s balance isn’t the best and he limps. Doesn’t seem like it’ll take much to knock him off his feet.”

Spoken like a tough guy who picks on the disabled to make himself feel hard. If you think he can take Freddie then go to the Wild Card Gym and see how you get on against him. When Freddie beats the crap out of you Titopa then you can always go and punch someone in a wheelchair in the face to make yourself feel hard again.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:57 pm 

B Red

Rpach is a racist scumbag

Posted November 20, 2013 3:52 pm 


This is a NON story. It remains a Top 10 P4Per facing a #0 P4Per. Let me know when Pacquiao rejoins the BIG leagues.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:50 pm 


Fight Aficionado – Ariz CERTAINLY did mock Roach’s disease, I don’t think anyone is arguing that, once again, it’s BOTH parties faults for this escalating…period. Roach should’ve approached Garcia is more professional manner and shouldn’t have disrespected Garcia by calling him a “POS” and Ariza should’ve minded his own business. That’s the bottom line.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:46 pm 


Seckbach is a troublemaker

Posted November 20, 2013 3:39 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Fight Aficionado – I’d still pick Ariza to toss Roach around like a rag doll, it’s not his fault of course, but due to his disease” – Even a punch drunk former pro boxer would crush a fat strength and conditioning trainer with no prior fight experience 10 out of 10 times.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:38 pm 

Fight Aficionado

According to the Associated Press, Ariza mocked Roach’s slurred speech resulting from Parkinson’s disease during the altercation. Given the many boxers who have suffered from this disease it’s pretty scummy.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:36 pm 


Tomato Can – Well said, they’re both to blame…I just found it rather humorous.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:35 pm 


I dont see it in the video I think Garcia is lying

Posted November 20, 2013 3:35 pm 


8:46 I’m trying to affirm on video did Roach say those things that Garcia is claiming ???

Posted November 20, 2013 3:22 pm 

Tomato Can

But really, isn’t this type of thing the trend these days? Every Garcia fight, we wonder what Angel will end up doing. Mayweather/Guerreo we saw Guerrero’s dad act like a fool… Mayweather/Canelo saw team Canelo get pissed at Elibre. It’s always something.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:22 pm 

Tomato Can

When things get heated people say things, most are not above that, so I’ll give Freddie a pass on the things he said, and I’ll also give Ariza a pass for kicking Freddie in the chest, and even making fun of his condition… It all started because Freddie got impatient, but he has a lot of pressure on him, this week, and waiting around for team Rios to leave is the last thing anyone would want to do… And as far as team Rios staying longer than they were supposed to, that’s understandable, under the circumstances, as well….. So this was all about nothing, and no one was overly in the wrong, IMO…

Posted November 20, 2013 3:19 pm 


No doubt Seckbach is a dirt bag maybe worse than Ariza

Posted November 20, 2013 3:12 pm 


If I was Floyd and Team TMT I make a move to this Racist Situation on Roach hating toward Mexicans and Jews and buy-out Team Garcia and Team Rios away from these Racist groups Team Roach, Team Manny, Bob Arum and HBO you see whatever feud that Racist Roach has toward Ariza is a total different matter that should not get Team Garcia and one of his Trainers Donald Leary involved. Floyd make a move and you will get Millions of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans support trust me it will be a Gold mine of a smart move.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:10 pm 


Both are equally at fault. Trying to put the blame on one person more than the other is dumb. They are both at fault. The only thing that was an act of a coward was what Ariza did. Plain and simple.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:05 pm 


” “you’re a effin joke, f*ggot”, ”

Yeah, but all that “guy” did was try to diffuse the situation and get Freddie out of there. He didn’t confront, or challenge anyone.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:03 pm 


“Roach is definitely having his Teddy Atlas moments.”

Freddie has no love for Robert Garcia who along with Rios and Margarito, mocked his affliction prior to the Pac/Marg fight. That was classless, immature BS and Freddie has never forgiven them for it–he may have said he did at one time, but deep inside I think it’s clear that Freddie never has.

You also have to consider that everyone was well aware of training times. How much effort would it have been for Garcia to tell the media he could not stay to talk to them past 11? Better yet, he could have taken the interview outside–they all had portable cameras and microphones.

More importantly, Garcia apparently didn’t try to contact Freddie first to let him know he’d be at the gym a little longer than he expected. That’s probably why Freddie got so pissed off–he thought Robert was doing it intentionally. Not to mention the fact that we can clearly hear someone in the video asking Ariza, “Is he still there? Is he still there?” referring to Freddie as they knew he was watching them and waiting for them to leave. I mean Garcia didn’t even look up before Freddie approached him–he could have taken the initiative and called across the gym, “Hey Freddie, sorry! We’re running behind. Give me 15 minutes I promise to be out of here!”

So, it’s a two-way street. I also think Freddie got over-anxious, but Robert and his crew just kept poking the mad dog with a stick.

BTW, Garcia claimed he never disrespected Freddie before. Ok. I guess mocking a guy who has a terminal disease isn’t disrespectful.

Posted November 20, 2013 3:00 pm 


Roachs says ” come on tough guy ” to Ariza then Roach says ” feenn girl kicked me. “

Posted November 20, 2013 2:56 pm 


Fight Aficionado – I’d still pick Ariza to toss Roach around like a rag doll, it’s not his fault of course, but due to his disease Roach’s balance isn’t the best and he limps. Doesn’t seem like it’ll take much to knock him off his feet.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:50 pm 

Fight Aficionado

For a strength and conditioning trainer Ariza looks like an obese umpa loompa. He’s lucky Freddy didn’t knock his head off.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:48 pm 


Gonzo the Vulture – Yes, I agree my man. Totally! Ariza was being childish and inconsiderate to say the least….but it did make me laugh when he told that one guy, “you’re a effin joke, f*ggot”, that was pretty funny! But yeah, Ariza is a prick.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:40 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

He said something along the line of that he was going to tell all the people of Israel that Roach hates Jews. lol

Posted November 20, 2013 2:32 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Seckbach is one repulsive cnut too. The way he’s jumped on this, playing the victim to the max and trying to make out Roach is the reincarnation of Adolph Hitler is utterly disgraceful. He even tried to insinuate that Manny and some of Roach’s other fighters might be racist just because they train in his gym. What a revolting little snake he is.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:28 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Thanks JJ

Posted November 20, 2013 2:24 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

We’re both in agreement here Brother. I’m not disputing Roach instigated the situation by being overly rude and confrontational. It’s just that I’m of the opinion that Ariza was by far the biggest douche there.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:23 pm 


Gonzo the Vulture – well said !

That ugly roly poly little Chollo was a moron. What the f@ck was he doing getting involved? Did he think former top pro boxer Garcia wasn’t capable of defending himself against a frail little old ill man if things got out of hand? He just looks like one of those uber aggressive dudes who’s just itching for any old reason to kick off and show everyone how tough he isn’t. I would’ve beat him to death where he stood in front of an audience of millions live on Chinese TV.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:22 pm 


This partly stems back to the Manny vs Margarito fight where Setbach, Rios, Margarito, and Garcia were making fun of Roach.

In that case too, Roach started it all by jumping on the defamation bandwagon against Margarito, who was framed by Golden Boy’s judicial hellhole out in California.

Now Arum has taken unfair measures by restricting Garcia from inspecting the prefight gloves, etc.. so it looks like Roach’s headgames have once again worked both against and for him

Posted November 20, 2013 2:19 pm 


Gonzo the Vulture – I’m not tripping on what he did AFTER Ariza mocked him, I would’ve done the same thing, Ariza was being a douche…but I’m referring to what Roach did BEFORE that, which was wrong and it’s what basically started the whole thing…had he been a bit more respectful, things may not have turned out the way they did.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:18 pm 


Watch the video over and over again clearly
Rios team is a bunch of thugs. I do like however Rio’s is minding his own business on the walking machine

Posted November 20, 2013 2:17 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Edit> Take a gander at

Posted November 20, 2013 2:14 pm 


Azira is a joke !

Posted November 20, 2013 2:14 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Edit>It’s the last known pic of me in human form

Posted November 20, 2013 2:13 pm 


someone in the video was saying ” that was a assault ” ” that was a assault ” oh please I hate that. Referring to time to lawyer up for a lawsuit. I hate that crap. The slightest thing people do and it’s always ” i’ll sue you. ! “

Posted November 20, 2013 2:11 pm 


If Ariza is a bad man wanting a fight. Strap on headgear and get in with Pac. Bet he would have ran or begged instead of kicking if Pac was after him. But he was tough when an old Parkinson’s man was coming. Pathetic.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:08 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Yeah I totally agree with that. Roach is a cantankerous old coot and he was rude and disrespectful from the get-go. But what the f@ck was he supposed to do after Ariza was mocking him like that? I would’ve beast f@cked Ariza’s @ss into the next life if I saw someone do that with Roach’s illness, let alone if it was actually me they were doing it to. And I’m a man of great moral virtue, dignity and peace.

Posted November 20, 2013 2:06 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Listen to Ariza mocking his illness at the 1:45 mark.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:59 pm 


Gonzo the Vulture – I TOTALLY agree, yes, the “physical” confrontation started with Ariza mocking Roach, no question, but the WHOLE THING started with Roach being rude and disrespectful…period! Maybe things would’ve been different if Roach had approached Garcia in a more respectful manner…who knows, but we do know is Roach went about it ALL WRONG.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:58 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

I’m not defending Roach. I’ve said he was too confrontational and unnecessarily aggressive. But Ariza’s mocking off his illness was absolutely disgraceful and that’s what led to Roach lunging towards him.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:56 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Titopa.. Granted Roach was out of order for being too aggressive and confrontational, but if you wacth the video again you can see Ariza starts making fun of Roach’s illness just before Roach lunged towards him. Don’t forget the history with Rios making fun of Roach’s illness. Garcia pissed himself when Rios did that. Ariza is clearly the worst offender here. There’s no defending what he did.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:53 pm 


What we do know is Garcia is level headed and knows how to remain calm…he kept his cool even when Roach was in his face saying “get eff out, get the eff out”…even then Garcia didn’t curse or disrespect Roach.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:51 pm 


Gonzo the Vulture – You’re totally overlooking the fact that Roach STARTED IT!!! He’s the one who started cursing first and disrespecting…first he says “get the eff out”, now I don’t care who you are, that would’ve angered anyone, then he calls Robert a “POS”, c’mon, really? That wouldn’t have pissed you off? Yeah, Ariza and that other guy probably shouldn’t have gotten involved, but Roach STARTED IT!! Period.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:50 pm 



Posted November 20, 2013 1:49 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Elle Seckbach is a repulsive little prick too. A horrible vile opportunistic amoral pedo. I genuinely wish death upon him an the uncouth harlot who sh@t him into this world.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:48 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

That ugly roly poly little Chollo was a moron. What the f@ck was he doing getting involved? Did he think former top pro boxer Garcia wasn’t capable of defending himself against a frail little old ill man if things got out of hand? He just looks like one of those uber aggressive dudes who’s just itching for any old reason to kick off and show everyone how tough he isn’t. I would’ve beat him to death where he stood in front of an audience of millions live on Chinese TV.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:46 pm 


Problem is Roach looked to try to be approaching Ariza. And that is what caused his reaction. You can see Roach going towards Ariza and he seemed to want to fight. But fact is only Reason Ariza got that kick in was because nobody was expecting that. I doubt anybody would of been able to punch anybody. Way to many people

Posted November 20, 2013 1:45 pm 


Gonzo the Vulture – Actually, all Ariza did was say then same thing back to Roach, which was “get the eff out”, Roach said that to Garcia FIRST, then called him a “POS”, that’s when Ariza started talking crap…yes, he was out of line of making fun of Roach’s disease…but Roach lit the flame.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:44 pm 


Roach was trying to create publicity and media attention for himself… Pacquiao was over an hour late and couldn’t work out anyway… If you have to wait 30 minutes or an hour, you just wait… You can always get dressed, start warming up and shadow boxing anyway, so his behavior made no sense.

If some trainer is making you wait to use the ring and equipment you ask, “Are you guys going to finish up pretty soon? The ring was supposed to be available to us at 11AM.” to let them know you’re waiting. I’ve never seen anybody start shouting “GTFOOH.”

Nobody charges into somebody’s interview, calls them a piece, uses racial slurs, and start ordering them out like it’s their gym. They’re just going to go slower and take their time more because nobody wants to be ordered around. Roach is definitely having his Teddy Atlas moments.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:44 pm 


Argument was wrong. But it was between Garcia and Roach. Not reason for Ariza to make fun of Freddy’s disease. Roach should have call the cops and let Ariza taste a phillipino prison.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:43 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

No doubt Roach is a d!ck at times, and he was too aggressive and confrontational, but that bucket of horse puke Ariza ignited it into a physical thing with his mocking of Roach’s illness. Roach lunged towards him after that, rightfully wanting to break some bones. I would’ve done the same if I’d been in Roach’s size 7s. Only difference being I would’ve been dropping members of team Rios like hollow plastic skittles being mowed down by a cannon ball. That was low enough as it was but to then go and kick someone in Roach’s condition in the chest was absolutely disgraceful.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:41 pm 


KC Pac wasn’t even their yet and they where waiting for an ESPN interview. They could of waiting, not like Roach has never went over the time limit for anything. Not like they would of kicked Pac out if he went past the 11 oclock training hour. Heck I bet if it was Roach in there first they would be like Garcia is a bully trying to kick them out. Really it all amounts to being an adult about the whole situation.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:40 pm 

Gonzo the Vulture

Alex Ariza looks like one of those corrupt cops who snorts 2 grams a day of coke on the sly and takes backhanders and touches women in inappropriate places when he’s frisking them down. I wouldn’t trust that slimy rat-faced snake as far as I could throw him, and I’m pretty strong – you guys remember that pic I posted of my semi-flexed bicep (flexed about 67% percent of maximum flex) don’t you? Of course you do.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:39 pm 


Fact was that it was time for the Mexicans to get out of the training area and let Pac take over its use.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:37 pm 


They are both adults, talking trash and hitting someone are just 2 totally different things. Granted their feud comes from the years they worked together. Not sure how that went sour but it did. Ariza is an idiot for kicking Roach. First off kicking is a coward move. 2nd after he did that he continued to make fun of Roach. Ariza is just an A$$.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:36 pm 



Posted November 20, 2013 1:36 pm 


Roach started it, PERIOD! Yes, Ariza went a bit too far, but Roach ignited the fire.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:34 pm 


where is the proof that he hates jews? where is the audio?

Posted November 20, 2013 1:33 pm 


Peej, well said!! Couldn’t agree more

Posted November 20, 2013 1:33 pm 


Ariza has officially hit rock bottom as a human being.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:31 pm 


should of been career ending when he was found out to be a cheat, so I say Pac gave him what he deserved.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:30 pm 


Arza sucks as a trainer. He should have had the balls to step in and stop the fight when Pac was about to kill Margacheater. That was the career ending fight for the cheat!

Posted November 20, 2013 1:27 pm 


if a 50 year old resort to calling people racist names, then he deserves what he gets, Parkinsson or not, Roach is a big mouth clown the kick should have been in his mouth.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:23 pm 


Roach said things he shouldn’t of said in the heat of the moment, who cares. That is what happens when tempers flair. What Ariza did was just uncalled for.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:23 pm 


sekback posting that roach should win kkk award

Posted November 20, 2013 1:21 pm 


The guy in the red shirt makes fun of Roach’s stuttering. I am sure Roach is whispering to Paq take Rio’s out in the first round.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:16 pm 


Shows you can’t read because I sided with Roach unless you are calling Roach a thug

Posted November 20, 2013 1:13 pm 


Thurmal underware,RLS, i couldn’t agree more. This is all choreograph, boxing is like WWF is all business. And UFC is heading that way slowly but surely…

Posted November 20, 2013 1:10 pm 


Ariza is a pussy ,and should get KTFU for those insults kick in chest of freddie and constantlu slurring hes speach in an ver poor manner. Wouldnt be surprised if Ariza will have to talk to the police about that assault (kick) He is a nobody to me now ,extually respected him eairlier

Co main event : Roach vs Ariza 3 round slugfest

Posted November 20, 2013 1:09 pm 


wigger peej of course sides with the thugs.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:06 pm 


ariza is a f@g.

Posted November 20, 2013 1:02 pm 


I say we all write ‘ yes Puerto Rican boxers are perfect outstanding individuals who never head butt or throw low blows and their way better than Mexican boxers’ that way public enemy shuts up already!

Posted November 20, 2013 1:02 pm 


Oh wait, they get some too from HBO 24/7 now they can add more drama, chihing!!!!.more money for both fighter. Come on guy boxing is business ask Floyd and Arum…

Posted November 20, 2013 12:46 pm 


I bet they get bonus from Arum for hyping the fight, pretty good job guys now im sold…

Posted November 20, 2013 12:41 pm 

Who Wrote This Article

Roach starts a lot of stuff and then plays victim. If you step up like a man, be prepared to get beat down if that is in the cards for you. Then to start using racial slurs is also not cool. I think the people on this site love roach as they act the same way- They talk all this stuff behind their computer screen, but run away in public. Roach is just what his name implies– a little shaky roach..

Posted November 20, 2013 12:35 pm 

Thurmal Underwear

Fake beef: its what’s for dinner

Posted November 20, 2013 12:33 pm 

Tomato Can

Big deal… All this does is add to the fight hype. Who cares who was right and who was wrong, it depends on how you look at it, and even then it doesn’t really matter.

Posted November 20, 2013 12:28 pm 


Dont know how anyone didnt lay that fat little mexicant dude out after that.

Rios will bust his nutt in the ring as he says, butvthis time it will be in his own face.

Posted November 20, 2013 12:17 pm 


Public Enemy so you are now saying that Pac has been on PEDs for years then?

Posted November 20, 2013 12:09 pm 


This is boxing. Freddie could have handled this situation a little nicer, but Garcia had a little attitude in his response to Roach inquiring about the gym use The fighter in Roach as well as the lasting memory of Garcia, Rios and Margarito making fun of him of his Parkinsons upset Freddie. Garcia instead didn’t even look at Freddie and told him he wasn’t leaving. Fighters have certain routines and habits, and they don’t like them being interrupted ever. Garcia could have spoken to Freddie and explained everything more clearly, but his ego got in the way. Neither guy was going to give in. Then enters Mr Glory hound, back stabbing hypocrite, Alex Ariza. This guy was bad news from the start. He runs his scared mouth mimicking Freddie’s stuttering and kicks Freddie? Seriously, what a disgrace of a man. He continues to run his mouth since the cameras are on acting like he’s tough. Someone needs to shut this guy up. And then another short tough guy can’t handle it all and goes berserk trying to beat up Freddie? These guys should be ashamed and embarrassed. The only guy that was acting decently was Rios because he didn’t want to screw up the fight and his $4 million dollar purse. Good for him, but he’s got a butt kicking coming. Ellie is an instigator that loved stirring it all up. He’s always running his mouth into controversy, searching for fame at the expense of others. They need to ban this guy like Freddie did at his gym. And of course this kind of drama only adds to the fuel of this fight. On another note, I also heard that Michael Koncz, Manny’s Financial adviser also suffered a heart attack last night. Hope he is well. This is boxing, sometimes the fighters, trainers, cut men, promoters, managers, families and friends all go at it. Now, let’s see what the real fight brings us.

Posted November 20, 2013 11:55 am 


Roach calling Garcia names wasn’t very professional especially since they where waiting to do an interview with ESPN. Pac wasn’t even their yet. Roach instigated the whole thing. Then he clearly looked like he wanted to get at Ariza but I still stick to what was really going to happen. Ariza got in a kick because he knew it wasn’t gonna go further than that with all those people around. Ariza is an a$$ plain and simple. Roach needs to also stop acting like a child.

Posted November 20, 2013 11:48 am 


seckback is already flooding all jewish publications with the ” fact” that roach hates jews and mexicans.

Posted November 20, 2013 11:46 am 


Roach was clearly the aggressor here. But I must say Ariza is a coward for doing that. Really what was going to happen with all those people around. That was a coward act. Roach was clearly in the wrong here but so was Ariza. Terrible.

Posted November 20, 2013 11:45 am 


Roach was clearly the aggressor here, he needs to calm down and stop provoking people especially with his condition.

Posted November 20, 2013 11:41 am 


trying to kick a old guy in the balls is not acceptable for a man to do . making fun of aparkinsons guy saying just spit it out is low class. fat bald mexican guy acting like adrunk woman when being held back is not acceptable. the jewish guy that dresses like a 12 year old hood rat making up ajewish slur sure is not acceptable. very bad disqusting behavior by the rios camp. no respect or class.

Posted November 20, 2013 11:31 am 


Ariza on film showing all his class-NONE,no wonder he feels right at home in Garcia’s sespit of a team.

Posted November 20, 2013 11:31 am 


Freddy did start out acting like a jerk but still this was an absolute low for Alex. I wish Freddy would set up a PPV with him and Alex and then Larry VS Money on the undercard.


Posted November 20, 2013 11:14 am 


These dummies are gonna get Rios effed up bad sons going to the hospital guaranteed.

Posted November 20, 2013 10:49 am 



Posted November 20, 2013 10:33 am 


ellie seaback is a 45 year old man that dresses like a 14 year old hood rat and makes stories up.

Posted November 20, 2013 10:31 am 


dirty low class lot

Posted November 20, 2013 10:30 am 


This bunch sure have some class..Why do those in charge not pull these no-marks and tell them to get out as they are smelling up the joint……When you are with professionals,behave….

Posted November 20, 2013 10:27 am 


Freddie has never forgiven Garcia, Rios, and Margarito for their digs about his Parkinson’s disease so he dislikes them from the get-go. Besides, that, Robert could have put a lid on the whole thing by telling his crew–especially Ariza–to shut up and to calm down but he just let the issue escalate. He just sat there acting all innocent while his crew were all yelling back at Freddie, cussing him out and calling him names. Meanwhile, Freddie could have shown a little class and not barged in on a televised interview.

Posted November 20, 2013 10:05 am 


Tough guys beating on a 50 year old man in the late stages of parkinsons. The angry bald Mexican dude who tried to punch Roach looked retarded.

Posted November 20, 2013 9:58 am 


Manny by KO.

Posted November 20, 2013 9:47 am 

Zoo The Great

Ilike this before a fight. I hated all that smiling and shaking hands on tour. It’s fight time baby!!

Posted November 20, 2013 9:42 am 


Roberto Garcia ia such a fake, pretending to play the good guy, while it was him who practically prodded Rios into making the Roach’s parkinsons impression in the video and the one who laughed the hardest.

And Margarito, instead of thanking team Pacquiao for having the chance to redeem himslef after the hand wrap incident, did that disgusting stunt.

Here’s a narrative of how it all started with the interview of Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports. Go to YouTube and copy and paste the following video title, without the quotes, in the search bar.

“Yahoo’s Iole on Margarito mocking on Roach and journalist’s role”

And the root of it all is one man – Elie Sechback who is lambasted by Mr. Iole in this video narrative. I posted this so as everyone can have the proper perspective on the matter. Enjoy.

Posted November 20, 2013 9:40 am 


Elie Sechback:

So Freddie Roach called you “a mofoking jew”? I just want to say, you deserve it Seckbach. You started all this. Go back to your country! You prodded Roberto Garcia into doing that dumb stunt with the hand wrap issue of Margarito, then went on and quoted Freddie Roach on his reaction to that video, then went back to Robert Garcia’s gym to prod and goad them more, and voilà! you have the video of Margarito and Rios making fun of Roach’s illness.

It’s who are sick Seckbach, not Roach. You are having fun going back and forth “listen he said this about you…”, goes to the other guy and you say to him “listen, this is what he said about you…” and so on, and so forth, basically starting a feud among all the people involved.

If you think you could be a Kevin Iole or a Max Kellerman, you’re dreaming out of your ass. With what you do, you will always be the amateur, irresponsible, childish, man-loving videographer who loves hanging out with real men to smell their sweat.

You’re a sad pathetic loser and a parasite Seckbach. Just so you know.

Posted November 20, 2013 9:31 am 


He said he lost time because of the interview pffffff ard you there to train or give interviews ???? He can give interview after workout !!! That’s not roach problem he was late for the interview and then demand another half hour!!!!

Posted November 20, 2013 9:24 am 


Hidalgo roach didn’t start nothing , roach asked him when are you leaving he said another half hour than roach said you are 15 min on our time already tban Garcia said I am not leaving in an arrogance way…. He could have asked roach in a polite way if they can give him more time but he demanded half hour that’s what started it!!!

Posted November 20, 2013 9:21 am 


Freddie did start it.

Posted November 20, 2013 9:18 am 


When I went to the wild card gym in LA, Ariza was all over me like a cheap car sales man within the first 2 minutes he wanted me to do mitts with him and said it will cost me a hundred dollars a session, I didn’t even ask him but he has a real creepy vibe! I did mitts with Roach’s brother and he charged me 10 bucks! Ariza is a snake!

Posted November 20, 2013 9:16 am 


I will say this though, Freddie started it. But Ariza had no business flapping his mouth.

Posted November 20, 2013 9:15 am 


Low life mo fo!!!!!! Acting tough on roach ….
The whole thing started because they took their time, so that’s not a big deal for Garcia but wants more time because it is a big deal ??? If team PAC would have taken their time who knows what that bi@ Ariza would have stir …
The fakin guy Ariza was mocking roach classless possuyyy!!!!

Posted November 20, 2013 9:09 am 


Five Mexicans couldn’t back Freddie off nor stand up to him unless they were all in a group. Ariza is a b*tch. Getting rid of that pissy little girl was the best thing he ever did.

Posted November 20, 2013 9:03 am 


didn’t now puberty lasts this long for some …

Posted November 20, 2013 8:53 am 


So the false mexican is the new Sergeant Garcia?

Posted November 20, 2013 8:10 am 


Still trying to sell a fight where one boxer blocks punches with his head. Rios is a robot, tailor made for Pacquiao. Top Skank.

Posted November 20, 2013 7:34 am 

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