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Wait 4 fat Dan Ritief 2 tell us.

Posted September 18, 2013 8:53 am 


Line-em up what are you smoking…..Manfredy??? JMM jumped TWO weight divisions to fight him, ODH way past it, Corrales (rip) not Mexica, Castillo beat Floyd the 1st fight, Chicanito Hernandez was at the end of his reign and the rest including Castillo were B level fighters. Hardly impressive

Posted September 17, 2013 8:01 pm 

Public Enemy

In case none of you have noticed there hasn’t been a peep about how many actual PPV Buys came in for the PBF vs Cinnabum fight.. you know if it had been record breaking that sht would be all over the place.. I predicted it would be lower then expected because of the insane price..

Posted September 17, 2013 3:30 pm 


Well great pity Manny didn’t get his timing right after 4 fights, Mayweather needed 0NE fight with Dinamita WH0 T00K the test and the lumps. Can’t say the same 4 Pedman. L0L

Posted September 17, 2013 12:47 pm 

Ray (the man) Flores

Well, after four fights with the same guy you would expect Dinamitra to get the timing down to land a bomb. Manny was careless at the end of the round. Manny will beat Floyd and Floid avoid him.

Posted September 17, 2013 12:36 pm 


Ray – Funny TH0SE angles and impulses didn’t help him against 40yr 0ld Dinamita. Mayweather whistled past a Y0UNGER Marquez T0 A 0NE-SIDED UD ( 12-0) after a 2yr lay 0FF and N0 warm up fight. Mayweather is in a league 0F HIS 0WN.

Posted September 17, 2013 9:23 am 

Ray Flores

Manny would be the only loss on FM’s resume. That is why he will not fight Manny. Manny is the one guy who punches from all angles on impulse, and that is why he would defeat FMJ. When he gets passed Rios he will be in queue for a shot to Floyd for 04/2014, but FloydAvoid will not entertain Manny. Roach knows this and knows that is why Manny will beat FM the Avoider. But it ain’t gonna happen. Money is not the attraction, unless Floyd can wage a campaign on becoming a Billionaire. The loss is the detraction, because Floyd knows he will loose to Manny. Floyd needs the straight ahead style fighter his boxing abilities are easy to apply to, but, Manny is all over the place, in and out, side to side, up and down with punches coming from all angles. Manny can out work the Shoulder Roll Queen. Floyd needs to man up and fight a real champ like Manny Pacquaio..

Posted September 17, 2013 1:52 am 


“Trark” stands for mental turmoil. You need treatment and you are looking for it at the wrong place. I don’t know if psychiatrists visit the site and if they’d like help an obvious nut case.

Posted September 17, 2013 1:26 am 


Tark the pundit lies all the time. About his boxing knowledge and about trifles. One such trifle is a KO prediction – why don’t you quote as usual? Because there is no such thing. Even if there was, it wouldn’t be a big deal, but why lie about?
Your boxing ignorance is well known and you comment only to provoke an indignant reaction and get some sort of an angry reply. You lies are boring.
Instead of making up false predictions, remember how you insisted Floyd and Alvarez punch in the same way through the target. Quote yourself and see what Floyd and Canelo said about each other’s punching power. You picked Canelo to win and you won’t admit it. I did and I admitted it, even though I outlined other options in my last article and I could have backtracked like you. I had a way out but integrity is more important than guessing right.

Posted September 17, 2013 12:25 am 


Hearns was KO’d 3 times in his 20′s. Including by the crude swinging underdog, Iran Barkley. A guy who suffered a number of losses at the hands of better fighters like Michael Nunn, Sumbu Kalambay, Nigel Benn, and James Toney, all of whom Hearns ducked.

Posted September 16, 2013 6:22 pm 


Ivanov.., You continue to compare Floyd unfavorably wiht Duran, Leonard, Hearns, and Hagler.

Duran quit a WW fight for no good reason, sayin “NO MAS.” He also looked pretty raggedy in some of his other loses.

Leonard got whipped really good by China-chinned Terry Norris when he was only 34. Norris floored Ray twice and mopped the floor with him.

Hearns was KO’d 3 times in his 20’s. Including by the crude swinging underdog, Iran Barkley. A guy who suffered a number of losses at the hands of better fighters like Michael Nunn, Sumbu Kalambay, Nigel Benn, and James Toney, all of whom Hearns was ducked.

Hagler was outboxed and beaten by a welterweight who was coming off a 3-year-layoff — and who had one (1) fight in the previous five (5) years.

Posted September 16, 2013 6:19 pm 


Ivanov.., I picked Mayweather to win by decision from the get-go you liar… You picked Alvarez to win by KO and I panned you for it before the fight… Stop lying about it.

Posted September 16, 2013 6:02 pm 

spartacus 65

ST56, Darn good commentary brother. Peace and strength.

Posted September 16, 2013 4:36 pm 

Death Star

citing the ‘clinic’ aywether put on against little itty bitty marquez who was jumping up 2 full divisions after only having campaigned at the one he was in before for that a measly 2 fights doesn’t do your cause any good. mayweather didn’t even make weight for a fighter who was jumping up 2 full divisions.

and perhaps it escaped your attention that the marquez that knocked pacquiao out wasn’t the same marquez that fought mayweather. and that pacquiao was also obviously way past his best as well. did you not realize that high energy come forward aggressive fighters have a tendency to burn out quicker than defensive specialists?

Posted September 16, 2013 4:31 pm 

spartacus 65

As I said before Sinammon Red, you’re blessed. Keep up the good work. Cheers.Death star, stay strong my friend. Your viewpoints as well as several otners are appreciated here. Shout ut ti Anonymous, Peej,Aficionado, Hecdog, Hidalgo, urone2, yes you too Redmond,and others. Peace amd strength.

Posted September 16, 2013 4:30 pm 

Death Star

hendo mayweather’s weaknesses are great fighters. look at his resume you’ll see he never fought one when they were in their prime. that’s a fact that you and all the other mayweather nutthuggers will never change. mayweather might be able to something about that though if he can find the spunk in his balls

Posted September 16, 2013 4:29 pm 


Even though it all went exactly as I (and most people out there) predicted, I feel sad for Canelo. But I also believe he could have tried harder, even if that meant getting KD or cut. Castillo, Judah, Cotto, even Hatton had Floyd in trouble based on sheer pressure. Canelo thought he would get to him with a big hand at a certain point, and that his power would make a difference, but the big hand never arrived and Floyd danced around the kid landing jab after jab, just enough to get the nod from the judges (except for that imbecile who saw a draw). How much different would the fight have been if Canelo was allowed to go up to 154 lbs? I don’t think much different, but who knows with a guy who already struggles to make the jr mdw division. Foyd, well, he will keep being Floyd. Is there anyone who can beat him? It doesn’t look likely, at least at the 154 lbs.

Posted September 16, 2013 4:29 pm 

Death Star

what did duran say about mayweather ducking pacquiao st56?

Posted September 16, 2013 4:05 pm 

Death Star

thank you thisisit

Posted September 16, 2013 4:01 pm 


ST56, Juan Manuel Marquez (JMM) KO’d Pacquiao… Money Mayweather put a boxing clinic on JMM. It’s a fact that you or any May Hater will ever change.

Manny’s weakness are counter punchers and technical fighters… Look at his resume and you will see he only fought one JMM who he could not beat.

Posted September 16, 2013 3:58 pm 

Death Star

proud african i wondered why i’d never heard of a famous african comedian, thanks for enlightening me as to why that is.

Posted September 16, 2013 3:57 pm 


Floyd “Money” Mayweather is the king of boxing… appreciate his skills, ring IQ, and how he has frustrated every boxer who has been in front of him. When any of you hater can accomplish that, you’ll appreciate and would understand “Money” more for the hard work that he puts in.

Posted September 16, 2013 3:44 pm 


@Public Enemy. Floyd did stand toe to toe with Canelo…with his back foot in Brazil. And when Canelo faked a punch, he was in Australia. Never saw a guy behave so scared in the ring.

Posted September 16, 2013 3:44 pm 


Yes I do think he’s broke. He suffers from Intellectual abject poverty.

And these opinions of legendary fighters, respected journalist are the general consensus. And with good reason too. The combined evidence is simply overwhelming.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:07 pm 

can i post this? because nothing else is working


Posted September 16, 2013 12:01 pm 


Posted September 16, 2013 11:48 am 

Kid Blat

Proud African, checks in the mail my man.

Posted September 16, 2013 11:41 am 


Manny Pacquiao is a GREAT fighter but he cannot adjust and thats been his undoing against a guy who CAN adjust (Marquez) there is NOT a chance in the World Pacquiao could outbox Floyd Mayweather his defense is way too leaky and his over aggression would likely make Floyd cum in his trunks due to the open opportunities…. I don’t even give Manny much of a punchers chance because Floyd has faced BIGGER punchers than Manny and has had no real issues…Reality is that Pac Mans days of stopping guys dwindled and dried up at 147 and above… Since Cotto in 12 rounds who has he stopped? Suddenly he is gonna KO the BEST defender perhaps in the history of the sport, taller, just as fast, smarter and the BEST counterpuncher in boxing…???? Pac Mans plan A has always been so overwhelming that he never really needed much of a Plan B but when Plan A is not working ie Marquez 3 and 4 what happens??? Just MORE of Plan A again I am a huge Manny Fan but he is NOT the craftsman and virtuoso that Floyd Mayweather is…. Marquez looked BEYOND terrible in there with Floyd and he was YEARS younger than when he put Pacquiao on his face…

Posted September 16, 2013 11:37 am 


Voice of Reason that took me all of 10 minutes, in between phone calls at work. And I spend a lot of time outside and have probably got laid with more beautiful women than you’ve ever talked to.I’ve always done very well for myself with the ladies tah very much. I also go to a gym three times a week as well and I’m in pretty good shape. Nice attempt at trying to deflect away from the meat and potatoes of those posts by resorting to Ad hominem arguments. A clear sign you were deeply affected by the content they contain. lmao.

Posted September 16, 2013 11:33 am 


Larry Holmes is a boxer with an opinion which is fine but he is NOT Jesus Christ NOR did he have a hand in the negotiations… Reality is that the Manny Pacquiao brand has been tainted over the past couple of years ABSENT a Mayweather bout by a guy that Mayweather REALLY embarassed coming off a 21 month layoff… Pacquiao had the benefit of 3 meetings with Marquez, he knows JMM better than ANY fighter in the sport and what happened? He suffered the first KD against a 39 year old version of him and then was knocked cold a couple of rounds later by this same Older fighter… Pacquiaos performances against Marquez have been on the DECLINE…. This basically has leeched away any prior confidence many of is ardent fans had about him being able to contend with Floyd Mayweather… Guys will say “Styles make fights” well Floyds style is 1000% WRONG for Manny Pacquiao that is why Manny has been put in the ring with a come forward, love to trade, rock’em, sock’em fighter coming up from 140 (Brandon Rios) Pac Man needs someone who is gonna make him look good and not challenge him technically… Marquez ability to adjust, and second to ONLY Mayweathers counterpunching has bedeviled Pacquiao for 4 bouts culminating the most brutal loss of his career….Pacquiao would be a BIG underdog against Mayweather if that fight were even possible but with this Showtime scenario its not happening…

Posted September 16, 2013 11:32 am 


LOL the usual Floyd haters are hating as usual….. The same fools that said Canelo was gon win… Instead of giving him credit for just whooping a man damn near half of his age, the first thing out their mouth is Pacquiao lmao….

Posted September 16, 2013 11:31 am 


seriously dude. You need to give it up. Go outside, breathe some fresh air, take some exercise. Hell, even get yourself laid – you might have to pay for that – but, with nerdish pages of verbiage you are heading for cardiac City with your bitterness.

Posted September 16, 2013 11:15 am 


Larry Holmes says it’s Floyd Mayweather’s fault a megafight with Manny Pacquiao hasn’t come to fruition yet

The former heavyweight champion did an interview with********, and sounded off about boxing’s current pound-for-pound champ, as well as Floyd Mayweather Jr. Holmes said he’s proud of Pacquiao and that he “brings a lot of excitement to the ring and makes people want to see his fights.” He also blasted Mayweather, calling him a “little a——” and criticizing him for his behavior.

“Pacquiao did all he can. He did all I would have done. I think Mayweather just got a little too scared if you ask me. If he thinks Pacquiao is taking drugs so what, he should just say: ‘You take it, you kill yourself that isn’t going to help you, because with my talent and ability I believe I can still beat you.’ But he was scared to take that challenge,”

“If they never fight it wont be Pacquiao’s fault. Every time they came round to fighting Mayweather put his excuses in,” Holmes said.

Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvi Hagler, Roberto Duran all accused Floyd of ducking Pacquiao and insinuated he is a chicken.

Posted September 16, 2013 11:03 am 


‘According to “50 Cent,” the two main reasons “Money” shot down a fight against “Pacman” was because “he concentrates too much on what someone else is getting paid opposed to how much he’s actually getting paid” and the other being that Floyd was very careful about selecting opponents, saying he liked to pick “the perfect opponent” as opposed to “the toughest fighter to fight.”

Posted September 16, 2013 10:44 am 


“Everybody’s like, ‘Aw, Pacquiao,’ but I’m just letting you know he’s not getting a fight with me,” an angry Mayweather said to Yahoo Sports this week. “The only way he’s getting the fight with me is if he signs with Mayweather Promotions. He’s got to give me fights with Mayweather Promotions. If he don’t give me no fights under Mayweather Promotions, then he’s not getting the fight. That’s how it is working now, because the ball is in my court. The ball has been in my court. I have been the A side.”

Floyd Mayweather

Posted September 16, 2013 10:40 am 


‘Floyd would love to fight Manny so much he ducked him for years and is still to this day ducking him. lmfao. Only on planet Flomo.

Like a non-stop output of punches over 12 rounds by a determined warrior, the excuses by Floyd Mayweather to avoid a showdown with Manny Pacquiao just never cease.

Despite scoring an impressive performance to defeat Miguel Cotto on Saturday night in Las Vegas, Mayweather is still adamantly opposed to the idea of stepping into the ring with Manny Pacquiao. “The Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is not going to happen,” insisted Mayweather. “It’s not my fault, it’s Bob Arum’s fault.”

The only reason, of course, that it won’t happen is because Mayweather fully realizes and understands it’s a fight he will lose. Because his style of defending and shoulder rolling is designed for right-handed fighters who do not have height and reach advantages. World class lefties like Demarcus Corley and Zab Judah were able to stun and floor Mayweather, just imagine what the world’s best and most spectacular fighter Manny Pacquiao would be able to do to Mayweather from his lefty stance.
Floyd knows and he knows full well. That’s why he must seek protection from Pacquiao by using walls of excuses to blockade himself from the complicated dangers that Pacquiao presents. So deep and impregnable are Mayweather’s walls of excuses that it indeed looks like the fight will never happen. The first wall of defense is the baseless steroid accusations. The second wall is blaming all the fault on Bob Arum. The third wall of protection is a refusal to accept a 50-50 split. The fourth wall of defense is the “I don’t need Manny, he needs me” facade. The fifth wall of defense is the “Manny’s really not that good, he lost five times and he lost to Marquez who I beat easily.” Mayweather also has a sixth wall of protection – “I might (fake) retire again.”

Six reinforced walls of excuses and blockades by one man – Floyd Mayweather – to duck and dodge the biggest event in boxing history. That is a Guiness record that will never be broken or equaled. (Well, let’s hope none of Al Haymon’s future fighters ever come close to challenging this mark.)
Mayweather knows the pressure is so strong and powerful for him to face Pacquiao, that one excuse is not nearly enough, he needs to use six different excuses to keep his security and unbeaten record. Wait a minute, there’s actually seven. Health concerns, self preservation, and fear of ending up like Ali are Floyd’s seventh excuse to duck Manny, as he used them in the Bob Costas interview and also the roundtable with reporters last week

But if you really think about it, the fear for his health is a lame excuse by Mayweather. While Pacquiao is certainly a brutally devastating fighter, he hasn’t, thank God, killed or severely hurt anyone. Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto and others all lived to tell and did not suffer permanent damage.
Also, Floyd should feel secure in himself because, as he tells us he’s the greatest fighter of all time and his defenses are surely superior to Oscar, Hatton or Cotto’s.
The mind of a fighter can be strange sometimes. A lot of ring observers believed Michael Spinks could defeat Mike Tyson before their epic heavyweight clash, even Muhammad Ali predicted a win for Spinks, on the record. Michael Spinks, despite the confidence of “The Greatest” behind him, was obviously completely psyched out by Tyson long before he emerged from his Atlantic City Convention Center dressing room. Similarly, Floyd Mayweather, is totally psyched out by Manny Pacquiao and he must fully know what his fate would be if he were to ever trade punches with the Filippino Destroyer.

Like Archie Moore once said about boxing Cassius Clay, “It’s the worst feeling in the world when you are in a fight you know you can’t win.”
Another strange aspect of the Pacquiao-Mayweather saga is how the American media just sits back and permits Mayweather’s cowardice to go on, which is so contrary to the integrity of what the sport should be about: The best versus the best, honor, bravery, courage, overcoming self-doubt and adversity. People like Iole, Rafael, Kellerman, Merchant, Dahlberg, Smith, Atlas, etc. need to be more vocal and put more pressure on Mayweather to just shut up with the excuses and just fight this guy Pacquiao. What the heck do you think Howard Cosell would be saying if he were around today? He’d be telling it like it is.

The United States of America is supposed to be the “home of the brave”, yet Mayweather is shaming us all with his constant duckery and cowardly excuse-making. And he is shaming our great sport of boxing too. Ali didn’t try to duck Frazier. James Toney didn’t try to duck Roy Jones. Hearns didn’t try to duck Leonard. Liston didn’t try to dodge Clay. These were milestone fights in boxing history. And Mayweather vs. Pacquiao will be the biggest of them all. The American media must get more actively involved and force this fight to happen, it’s what the fans around the world are demanding. Quit protecting Mayweather and the American establishment. The media must pressure Floyd to fight Pacquiao, or retire.

It’s going to be interesting to see how the PPV numbers for “Ring Kings” will do next week. Even if they are strong, it’s hard to imagine the public wanting to pay up again to see Mayweather against another Golden Boy handpicked set up like Malignaggi, Guerrero, Alexander or Morales, even if they bring in Justin Beiber again.
Ken Hershman and his team at HBO are fully aware that Mayweather’s reluctance and lack of self confidence are the reasons the biggest event in boxing history is not happening. Perhaps Hershman needs to play hardball and be more forceful to the Mayweather team – and less obliging and cooperative to Al Haymon’s “low risk” business tactics. It’s gotten to the point that it’s time for Hershman to start doling out ultimatums, such as, “Floyd we love you and appreciate your fine work, but you’re next fight is with Manny. It’s Manny or the highway Floyd, take it or leave it.”
Pacquiao vs. Mayweather is perfectly primed right now (if Pacquiao defeats Tim Bradley on June 9). Mayweather vs. Cotto was an exciting lead-up event, like a thrilling AFC Championship game won by an artful fourth quarter TD pass. “Ring Kings” certainly boosted the credibility of boxing and also it’s visibility in the culture. But there’s no reason to stop there. The future is even brighter. The Super Bowl of boxing will be even more exciting and more competitive than Mayweather vs. Cotto was. The upside of how Pacquiao vs. Mayweather can explode boxing into a new golden era is immeasureable.

Pacquiao vs. Mayweather simply must be made next. No if’s, ands or buts about it.

Posted September 16, 2013 10:38 am 

Public Enemy

Nonsense, Mayweather stood toe to toe against Canelo and landed at will he also backed up Canelo against the Ropes and was landing shot after shot while Canelo looked confused. He backed off of Canelo hoping the kid would do something giving him a chance but that didn’t help the Hyped up Red Head.. it was so one sided they should’ve just stopped the fight and put a stop check on Canelos payday.. No wonder Delahoya stayed home, he knew what Canelo was in for..

Posted September 16, 2013 10:28 am 


Proud yank, I’ve been in the ring as a competitor more times than you can count, but so what? If you think boxing experience helps you enjoy the game, it doesn’t. It prevents you from living the joys and thrills of fanaticism because you always see stuff that disappoints you. I can’t even get my former team mates to talk about boxing, they are fed up with it, disappointed with the scams and machinations. You have to be very naive to be a true boxing fan today – there are very little true boxers anymore, I can’t think of any right now. The boxing spirit is nowhere to be found.

Posted September 16, 2013 9:59 am 


Floyd’s a master counterpuncher he would love a guy like Manny to just keep launching punches that he can catch and counter… A Pacquaio fights not happening there are even more hurdles than before since they are on competing Networks now… Forget it

Posted September 16, 2013 9:52 am 

el tango

the different with pacman from all fighters that floyd face is that pacman throws 10 to 20 bombs thats why he is scared to face pacman.cmon floyd give us what we want please!

Posted September 16, 2013 8:53 am 


Canelo was outlanded damn near 2 to 1. GOOD guess though.

Posted September 16, 2013 5:50 am 


Canelo did not use his size in the fight which played right into Floyd’s hands. The young Mexican needed to apply pressure and sacrifice his defense to beat Floyd up which he desperately needed to do. He chose to box Floyd in stead, which he did an ok job at, and was outlanded 1.5 to 1 and lost the fight clearly. He did try at times to put pressure in the late rounds and was successful at times but too little and too late.
Canelo was in no way beaten up or broken. Floyd outpointed him enough to win a UD. Wrong tactics in the biggest fight of Canelo’s career.

Posted September 16, 2013 4:56 am 


Mayweather did a Rigo on Canelo. He kept moving the whole fight. Never letting Canelo get off more than two shots. It’s a basic technique but very difficult to implement. Lara tried but failed miserably against El Perro Angulo.
Still the fight was competitive. Mayweather needed to stay focused and lost some rounds against the harder punching, more aggressive opponent.

Posted September 16, 2013 4:47 am 


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Posted September 16, 2013 4:44 am 

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Posted September 16, 2013 3:23 am 


TARK didn`t pick an ALvarez KO win. He picked Floyd to win by 2 points, with a spread 1-2 point either way not surprising him.

He did also couch that by spending a lot of other comments talking Canelo up though so that he had something in both camps, so I can see where the confusion lies.

Posted September 16, 2013 3:11 am 

tony m

I knew canelo was hype, nothing special but one dimensional street fighter type of boxing. this happened with gatti, delahoya, cotto, mosley. everytime may fights, the trash talkers claim he will get this coming and that. pac is no match either.

Posted September 16, 2013 3:00 am 


Teddy Atlas is an idiot too. He predicted canelo steals a decision.

Posted September 16, 2013 2:51 am 


Proud yank, not only I did not write Alvarez will stop Floyd, I wrote he wouldn’t go for the KO and jeopardize the rematch even if Floyd melted down. The winning lottery ticket would be lost. He lost it for other reasons – failing to excite fans. Hatred has nothing to do with it. If you think boxers have such an influence and get you to hate/love, you should reconsider your attitude to the sport. Start with like/dislike, the worst thing is indifference and that’s what boxers are getting from most sports fans. Sad.

Posted September 16, 2013 2:38 am 


Tark, you lie again. You know my articles by heart and you know I picked Alvarez to win a controversial decision and set up the sequel. I was wrong and I admitted it. You picked Alvarez to win by KO.

Posted September 16, 2013 2:27 am 


Money is THE ONE in the Sport of Boxing. His plans MAY be to move to a new Sport like Jordan DID when he conquered Basketball. Floyd has conquered the Sport of Boxing. All he can DO now is let his SKILLS erode SO that we can see him in more competitive Fights.

Posted September 16, 2013 2:19 am 

Proud Yank

That right Shawno he’s no Ray.. He’s better the. Ray.. Never lost to a brawler..Duran..
Never lost a fight. Never lost to a bum named Terry Norris. At the age of 33.

Posted September 16, 2013 2:16 am 

Proud Yank

Hey Ivan the hater .. Didn’t you pick Canelo to stop Floyd.shows how much you know about boxing nothing…

Posted September 16, 2013 2:13 am 


Money is THE ONE at 152 lbs. What are his plans now? Move up to 154 lbs? :-D

Posted September 16, 2013 2:04 am 


And much as I like to rag on TARK for his nightime activities of a vampiric nature he at least spends at least half his time in the real world and can provide some astute analysis.

You appear to spend all your time with your head up a hyenas bottom, with the only analysis coming from the fact that “lysis” means to split, and there is a poor hyena who is having that happen in their anal area.

Posted September 16, 2013 2:02 am 


floyd is an amazing boxer but lacking in some areas thats all. i rewatch his fights for technique but not for fun over a few beers with the boys. hes no sugar ray

Posted September 16, 2013 2:01 am 


BTW…, You picked him to KO Floyd… Genius.

Posted September 16, 2013 1:53 am 


Ivanov is an idiot.., “Saul Alvarez is an ordinary brawler whose greatest asset is being Mexican. He is small but fat and doesn’t have the proper body type for boxing.”

He was undefeated in 43 Boxing matches and just made over 10-million dollars.. How much did you get paid for writing about him?

ZERO… Because that’s how much you know.

Posted September 16, 2013 1:51 am 


Well I THANK you for showing your lack of knowledge about Boxing.

Posted September 16, 2013 1:43 am 

Ivan Ivanov

Floyd Mayweather couldn’t carry the jockstrap of any member of the “Fabulous Four”. Duran, Haggler, Leonard, Hearns trained for 15 rounds and boxed for three minutes of a round. These people were true fighters and they would have brought the fans back from MMA to boxing. The fans that Mayweather turned away. Leonard was poetry in motion compared to Floyd. All four would have had an easy time with the harmless and fragile Money May. Leonard’s jab alone would have stopped Floyd, the others would have needed both hands to expose a product.

Posted September 16, 2013 1:37 am 

Proud African

I can`t believe I make my sistel Mthewela pedal all night to charge my phone, then climb all the way to the top of an Mbulu tree, get bitten by army ants just to get reception to read this racism.

This really has me looking forward to Chase the White Devil Out of Your Village Day.

I`ll be doing my “Go away white devil” dance extra hard this year, and adding a shoulder roll to it.

Posted September 16, 2013 1:29 am 

Ivan Ivanov

I’ve been gentle to both fighters in the article, but still some people got offended. so I’ll write this anyway:
Floyd Mayweather is a fraud, a sissy coward who treats boxing as a hot dog stand. He is a salesman and a pretender.
Saul Alvarez is an ordinary brawler whose greatest asset is being Mexican. He is small but fat and doesn’t have the proper body type for boxing. He’ll never be at the right weight. Skill-wise he does not belong in the mix, he is just a tool to cheat Mexican fans out of their hard earned money. GGG would destroy him in 3.
Supreme court, I’ve never been to the USSR but you live in it. It’s in your head and clouding your scarce thoughts. Get a life or at least a job.
Tark/turbohamster, you are a lier and an ignorant fan with illusions of expertise.
Herron, you are a jealous scribe who does a lot of ‘work’ for free and expects reward for it. You need to read before you write, read a lot.
I can handle negative comments form people who know boxing, I like any comments from people who know boxing and there are a lot of comments like that here. These people are not haters, they just speak their minds.
Some fans have a cult worship for their idol when he is very human and couldn’t care less about the fans. he doesn’t care about your emotions. Be cool and don’t hate fictitious “foes”.
I am a fan of boxing before I am fan of a boxer. A fan of these two puppets I am not.

Posted September 16, 2013 1:27 am 


This site is going down hill. Why accept trash articles like this?

Posted September 16, 2013 1:10 am 


QOUTE: ” PEEJ Well there where 493 of the article saying Garcia and Floyd won. Floyd still pulls more post that anybody”

Oh yeah? but look at all the other article about Floyd that was written? A lot of them has small number of post unlike before when I use to come on here a year and a half ago. The number of post took a dive like the economy.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:52 am 

Olu G. Rotimi

Alvarez did not provide a credible challenge. Floyd made him look ungainly and amateurish. I watched it again and I find it difficult to score a round for Alvarez. CJ Ross is a disgrace.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:42 am 

ThisIS it

Death Star it’s a good thing you are here to balance the viewpoints expressed on here. You do a good cross examination lol.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:41 am 


Boxing is a self-destructive enterprise… With CJ Ross’s history of horrible scorecards, completely out of whack with the other judges, why in HELL would you have her judge the most important fight in many years???

It’s kind of like saying, “Just shoot me and get it over with” to assign her to a fight of this magnitude… I don’t understand it. Who is she blowing?

Posted September 16, 2013 12:28 am 

Fight Aficionado

I’ll give props to Floyd because he did face a guy who at least on paper was a legit threat. Plus he did it without running, he stood in the pocket. I actually think the only reason he’s been doing that the last couple years is his legs are gone. But nobody’s made him pay for that and it sure wasn’t going to be Canelo, who moved like he had 2 lead feet.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:23 am 


Floyd’s GOATNESS shined through. The BETTER the opponent the higher the SKILL level Floyd summons out of himself. Which produces the same result. Another CHAMP and Top 10 P4P Fighter transformed into a CHERRY.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:10 am 

Fight Aficionado

“Fight Aficionado, admit it. You thought Matthysse was going to ko Garcia inside of five rounds, but Garcia show he was just much better. Insulting Garcia is not going to take away your pain.” – Papo, you make a valid point. I did give him credit in another thread but the ESB software deleted it. Anyhow, yes Garcia did win a clearcut UD and he indeed was better than I figured he’d be. A win is a win.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:09 am 


Bringing his Dad back bought him another 4 or 5 years. Smart move. Floyd’s elusiveness was AWESOME. GREAT job by Floyd Sr. He made Canelo LOOK LESSER than Cotto.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:04 am 


This is the first accurate article I’ve read on the “fight” so far. Great observation about both guys trying to lure each other out of inactivity. The only disagreement I have is that it was understandable why Canelo low-blowed the king. What has Floyd been doing leading up to that? And you don’t want to tap gloves with Floyd in case you get Victor Ortiz’d! This was a glorified sparring match. 4 more to come!

Posted September 16, 2013 12:02 am 


Just as I predicted defeating Trout was no preparation for a razor SHARP Mayweather. Floyd hit Canelo with more clean shots in one round than Trout DID the WHOLE Fight.

Posted September 16, 2013 12:01 am 

Ghetto Thug

If cinnabum would have given a bit, I mean just a bit of hard time to Money May I have no doubt he would have been declared the winner. A few days ago I said I was very worried about a robbery, it was a very close s**t

Posted September 15, 2013 11:37 pm 

Death Star

we can all write sentences that don’t make sense mate

Posted September 15, 2013 11:36 pm 

Death Star

my connect 4 skills are better than better than your washing machine. rofl

Posted September 15, 2013 11:35 pm 

Death Star

your boxing iq is higher than my son? rofl.

Posted September 15, 2013 11:34 pm 

Death Star

spartacus 65 thank you

i don’t get it either, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out race is all it’s about with a very significantly large percent of floyd’s fans. sad but true

Posted September 15, 2013 11:25 pm 

spartacus 65

Peej I must agree with you on Bradley. Im not a fan of his but Arum has treated him rather shabbily. Bradly shiwed tremendous guts and fortitude in his last fight. However Tim is on borrowed time. That last bout put serious mikeage on him. He fights Mayweather, he hits the jackpot. Yet I don’t see that happening. Cheers my friend.

Posted September 15, 2013 11:24 pm 


You obviously can’t read which makes me question your IQ. I haven’t even read Proud Africans post. I don’t read every post, I look for post with my name or the people who have been posting on here for a long while. If they so happen to be in an argument with someone and I think they are right I join in and back them up. Bears referred something to me so I posted back plain and simple.

Posted September 15, 2013 11:24 pm 


My boxing IQ is higher than your son

Posted September 15, 2013 11:17 pm 

spartacus 65

Death Star, Sir, on the mark with your commentary. Very much so. Good stuff soldier. Everyone can have an opinion. That’s perfectly acceptable and fine. What I don’t get is the need for racially insensitive remarks. Forgive me if it seems niave on my part but I truly don’t get it. At my job on Saturday I had to cover another Checkpoint due to the supervisor in that area being out sick. Myself and some other gentlemen eere talking about the upcoming bout. When I mentioned what I felt Canelo needed to do to win, one of the young guys, went from being jovial to downright stonefaced and basically antisocial afterwards. No matter to me but the demeanor of this kid spoke volumes. Even on YouTube I listened to a wonderful by singer and composer Barry Manilow. For reasons unknown some individual made a very derogatory remark about White people which for the life of me I couldn’t understand why. Point im trying to make is ,WHAT GIVES? Really someone explain how race just needs to be interjected ehen most people don’t bring this stuff up. Just looking for a legit reason.

Posted September 15, 2013 11:17 pm 

Death Star

you need to take the test peej – an iq test rofl

Posted September 15, 2013 11:16 pm 


I’ve already commented to him a few times when he was talking about Abner Mares. I have stated things before. Just because you didn’t see my comments means nothing. I never agree with Proud African.

Posted September 15, 2013 11:15 pm 


For instance.., I don’t think Ricky Hatton took a lot away from his Floyd fight… Or his Pacquiao fight… He probably went away from fighting those guys a worse fighter than when he came in, because of the damage they did to his chin … Canelo was never hurt – just embarrassed.

Posted September 15, 2013 11:14 pm 


They called Floyd out at 150 after one of his fights. Then they said in an interview on a website that they would fight at 152. Canelo accepted. If it was a problem he should of put his foot down like he did when he declined to fight on Floyd’s PPV card at the beginning of the year but he didn’t

Posted September 15, 2013 11:10 pm 


Are you allowed to negotiate a catch-weight? … Do you have to agree to a catch-weight? … Is it smart business to create the biggest possible advantage you can for yourself?

Canelo made himself at least 10 million dollars… He can fight Sergio Martinez now who’s getting really old. He’ll probably be a lot better in his next fight … after he absorbs all the lessons he can from this fight.

He said, “This was a great experience for me to fight 12 rounds with a boxer of this caliber. I’m only 23. I’ll be much better in my next fight.”

Posted September 15, 2013 11:09 pm 

Death Star

canelo wanted the fight at 154 all along, floyd’s team kept asking them to fight at a catch weight. first at one 148, then 149, 150, 151 even, and caleno eventually had to accept otherwise floyd wouldn’t have signed the contract. ellerbe and floyd have both admitted all of this

Posted September 15, 2013 11:08 pm 


Obviously you haven’t been on this site for very long. I’ve already stated I didn’t agree with the catch weights but Canelos team came up with it and they ran with it. The weight made no difference. He was gonna get beat either way. He came in at 153 against Trout and had his so called beat and most improved improvement. So stop.

Posted September 15, 2013 11:05 pm 


Largo I wouldn’t mind seeing Bradley get a shot against Floyd. He has earned it especially with the way he has been treated by Arum. I don’t think he beats Marquez but I’d he does he has to leave Top Rank to be considered. There is too much bad blood between Golden Boy, Mayweather and Top Rank/ Bob Arum

Posted September 15, 2013 11:03 pm 


PEEJ, I know where you’re coming from but if Tim becomes a compelling opponent, things might be worked out…if it makes money, it’ll make sense. I do believe that Tim will beat the crap outta Juan, so he might become the guy Floyd would like to face next…

Posted September 15, 2013 11:01 pm 

Death Star

look at you making excuses for floyd’s lies about never fighting at a catch weight. after all the smack he and you lot spewed about pacqiuao fighting catch weights. you have no backbone. floyd say jump, you say how high. there’s no defending that at all stop being a sheep

Posted September 15, 2013 10:58 pm 

spartacus 65

Cont. Let’s not be disingenuous here. At the end of the day Pacquiao called his bluff and acquiesed to EVERYTHING. You name it . EVERYTHING. Now according to Mayweather he is washed up. I said it before and I will,say it again. This is personal., Mayweather for whatever reaon WANTS to humiliate and diminish thus mans achievements and stature within the boxing community. It ckearly irjed hin when he decided to take a VACATION from boxing ,that Pacquiao s star rose and rose BIG, eclipsing his own status at that time. Saying the things he’s recently quoted as saying now, only serves to make him look petty and quite a few other things. Its ok. The fight will never take place. Let’s move on. Cheers

Posted September 15, 2013 10:58 pm 


Death Star, Canelos team came up with the 152 catch weight. So atop with that. The same Canelo that has nothing but Jr WW and WW on his résumé. He only has 1 Jr Middle on his résumé and that is Trout. And Canelo was the one that called out Floyd, not the other way around. Pac was the one that called out or made fights with the heavier fighters, they never called Pac out

Posted September 15, 2013 10:54 pm 


Pac kelt coming with cut off days. He has never agreed to full testing until now with Rios. Which is saying he is ready to take it maybe. With everything that is going on with Bradly and Marquez and who is doing the testing will still be an issue. The one common thing amongst all the drug testing problems is Top Rank and Bob Arum

Posted September 15, 2013 10:52 pm 

Death Star

average iq of a floyd fan sub 80


“I look at Miguel Cotto as an undefeated fighter because he faced Pacquiao, but Pacquiao caught him at a catch weight. He wasn’t the best Miguel Cotto. He was drained. He wasn’t hydrated”

fights canelo at a catch weight

floyd fans

”excuses excuses slurp on floyd’s balls excuses excuses”

Posted September 15, 2013 10:50 pm 


Bradley will never be considered an opponent to Floyd unless Bradley leaves Top Rank

Posted September 15, 2013 10:49 pm 

spartacus 65

I see that Richard Shaefer is strongly considering Ahmir Khan for a future opponent. Supposedly alsi considering Wembley stadium as the venue. Understanble. A lot of the Union Jack will be there to support Khan. He has the speed and the guts. Yet as we all kniw he has very ticklish whiskers. If not for that glaring fkaw this fight would be very appealing. Mayweather hasn’t fought a speedy fighter in years. These flat footed opponents play right into his hands, since he has obviously lost a step. Even in his dominant showing with Canelo, the openings were there. Howeber as it is Khans chin is a serious liability. Btw, Pacquiao was quite willing to deal with tne needles issue. Let’s not be disinge.ou

Posted September 15, 2013 10:47 pm 


Spartacus 65, unfortunately the fight will never happen as long as Arum is in the picture. I really don’t think Flouds demands are to ridiculous at all. What was ridiculous was in the first negotiations in 09, 10 it was all done, money was agreed at 50-50, Floyd agreed to Pacs demands, ring size, gloves, weight. All done, but they turned there noses up to Floyds random testing. So now they get what they deserve.

Posted September 15, 2013 10:47 pm 

Death Star

floyd ”i’m the greatest fighter ever”

”i won’t fight you poochio unless you take the test”

all of pacquiao’s other opponents ”we’re not the greatest fighters of all time but we have balls and we’ll fight you”

Posted September 15, 2013 10:46 pm 

Proud African

Canelo, another sombrera-honkey who should go back to working at Taco Bell.

Posted September 15, 2013 10:45 pm 

Death Star

big mike i think you’ll find pacquiao agreed to floyd’s demands but floyd get moving the goal posts all the time to try a wriggle out of fighting him. obviously you’re a dumb flomo and you’ll try and spin fantasy into reality to make it seem like floyd wanted the fight. we take that with a pinch of salt though. 98% of fans know the truth. only floyd asked pacquiao to undergo extra testing no other fighter. if floyd was so confident of beating him he would’ve just done what all the other fighters who fought pacquiao did – sign the contract. there’s no spinning away from that and you know that. pacquiao wasn’t going to be dictated to by someone who’d smeared his good name and racially abused him. common sense mate. floyd didn’t want the fight. /the end

Posted September 15, 2013 10:44 pm 

big mike

I think it was Pac who was afraid of needles but wanted a million dollars per pound over the weight limit for Floyd. By the way he’s amazingly no longer afraid of needles with Rios. Amazing.

Posted September 15, 2013 10:26 pm 


big mike has the beat.

Posted September 15, 2013 10:25 pm 


Winegas, Bradley will be seriously considered to fight Floyd after he beats Marquez into retirement. I’m in record saying Tim might even stop Juan. The dessert storm is coming for the grandpa.

Posted September 15, 2013 10:24 pm 

big mike

For everybody saying Canelo was weight drained, he’s the one fighting welter weights. There’s a way to avoid weight drain, its called GGG or Andre Ward, Kid chocolate,Chavez Jr,Martinez and many more. IJS

Posted September 15, 2013 10:21 pm 

Death Star

Floyd ducked Pacqiuao you knobs. Stop with the revisionism already. You can reach for as many excuses to try and absolve him of the blame but deep down you all know it was the most blatant duck in recent memory. Take a poll of fans and the results will be a landslide that Floyd ducked. Like 98% of fans. The 2% minority who voted him didn’t would all be you dumb Flomos.

Posted September 15, 2013 10:15 pm 


Who does Tim Bradley have to beat to get into the ring with Mayweather???

Posted September 15, 2013 10:11 pm 

Mean mug

Dream on gonzo. Khan will never beat fmj.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:49 pm 


Fight Aficionado, admit it. You thought Matthysse was going to ko Garcia inside of five rounds, but Garcia show he was just much better. Insulting Garcia is not going to take away your pain. You are a man, stop your crying, is all over. Garcia proved to you and many other doubters that he was just much better than Mathysse…move on.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:40 pm 

te tumbo

“What does Q-VO stand for?” it’s short for “Q Vole”, which is urban Chicano slang for “what’s up?” . . . Alrato (Chicano slang for later).

Posted September 15, 2013 9:33 pm 

big moe

Its going to be very interesting in the left hook lounge.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:25 pm 

spartacus 65

Right on the MONEY so to speak Te Tumbo. Its all about the BIG PURSE. Correct soldier. It won’t happen. Curious about something my fruend. What does Q-VO stand for?

Posted September 15, 2013 9:23 pm 

te tumbo

Q-Vo SPARTACUS 65. it’s a grudging admission, my friend. just a few months ago, i was strictly opposed to Mayweather fighting above 147lbs ever again. including his recent bout v. Alvarez. now, every imaginable matchup seems to be anti-climactic. there would be a vicious backlash to hype building-up Mayweather v. Garcia(?). Mayweather v. Thurman(?). Mayweather v. Maidana(?). Mayweather v. Broner has potential but even that doesn’t compare to Mayweather v. Golovkin v. Martinez v. Lara. considering that Mayweather’s matchmaking is directly linked to purse size and PPV buys, i actually don’t doubt that we’ll see Floyd weighing-in at 150lbs again soon.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:18 pm 

spartacus 65

Peej, good evening. That is true, Pacquiao needs to shire up his defense. Im sure if the possibility for this bout came to fruition, Freddy Roach would DEFINITELY get Pacquiao into the best Pacquiao he could be in this,in my view, personal ambition to beat Mayweather. Defensively and offensively. Mayweather woukd definitely nit stand in front of Pacquiao as he did Canelo. Pacquiao, regardless of what some people would like to believe, can STILL CRACK. HARD. Trust me,my friend. Mayweather KNOWS that. Still given Mayweathers absurb demands and obvious refusal to face a Pacquiao he says is washedup(hmmm) ,it isn’t happening. Manny is willing. His reluctant dance partner isn’t. Cheers my friend.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:12 pm 


Got nothin to say !,xcept its just one of the usual boring figth of mayweather again,not worth your money watching on ppv.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:10 pm 

spartacus 65

Te Tumbo, solid, interesting viewpoint. The welterweight division doesn’t seem to have the talent level to put forth a true challenge. Each fighter has an Achilles heel so to speak in.that division. In a sese it would be anti climatic ,any bout with either of those fighters. Junior middleweight sounds reasonable I supppse. I doubt that will happen though. Cheers soldier.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:03 pm 


Problem with Pac is that he has no defense. You can’t beat Floyd if you only have offense. He may not have a powerful enough punch to bother 154 pounders but he has enough to get there respect. Floyd does have enough power to put Pac down.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:02 pm 

te tumbo

Canelo wasn’t cut or dropped and emerged from the bout physically unmarked. he’ll be back soon. Lara is sounding pretty good right about now. i personally think Canelo drops Golovkin at 154lbs too. i would settle for Cotto.

Posted September 15, 2013 9:00 pm 


Fighting Words I’ve said it plenty of times, I don’t think Floyd is the best fighter ever. I just think he is the best of this generation is all. And that is true. His resume speaks for itself. He has been in championship fights or title fights ever since his 12th pro fight. No other fighter has ever done that.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:59 pm 

spartacus 65

Boxing Barlow, from a financial view point yes, Pacquiao makes perfect sense. How he looks against Rios will determine that. Manny wins BIG then it should be nade. If he struggles then this fight whuch is already past it’s due date will be at best lukewarm. I like manny and im a fan of his but his focus has not been the same since he entered political office. I do believe he does have the styke to do it but its his mindset that concerns me. Still good point my friend. Peace and strength.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:56 pm 

te tumbo

Mayweather provokes and exploits openings while avoiding being put into any serious trouble himself. he’s a Master at it and uniquely equipped to do so. his chin is solid; his conditioning superb; and he’s very strong for his size. easily as strong as the next size up, which he proved once again last night. when Canelo got aggressive, Mayweather would begin scoring, Canelo would dial-it-back to defend himself, we’re back in Floyd’s office(?!), and that was the pace of last night’s bout. Canelo wasn’t big enough to stalk and punish Mayweather who actually assumed that posture himself during a couple of spells during the bout. Canelo was good enough to avoid becoming mere target practice for Mayweather. at least not without countering with some solid shots of his own but even those didn’t have any remarkable effect on Mayweather, which must have preyed on Canelo’s mind. i know my expectations plummeted once i noticed how well Floyd was handling Canelo’s punches, but what really had me thinking that i was seeing things was how well Floyd neutralized at 15lb weight advantage(?) and how impotent Canelo was to impose it. ultimately, a properly compensated and motivated Mayweather demonstrated why he remains the #1 P4P in the fight game and after last night, i may have no choice but to discard my objections to Mayweather fighting above 147lbs. there’s no suspense about any matchup down there. not even bouts v. Garcia or Broner would match the appeal of Lara or Golovkin. only the spectacle of pitting Mayweather v. bigger contenders makes any sense and money now.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:50 pm 

spartacus 65

Cont. Or the ring generalship to do the job. Mayweather is a seasoned vet who simply lays back and counterpunches these rookies when they inevitably make a mistake. No secret there. That’s what pros do. It will take a fighter equally equipped as he is in terns of overall ability to get the victory over him. Khan? Wishful thinking. Brave? Yes. Speed? To burn. Reach? Yes. Chin?NO. CHEERS MY FRIEND.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:49 pm 

spartacus 65

OLD GUY,Good evening. You my friend just summed the WHOLE thing up in the proverbial nutshell. Canelo would’ve been well served to fight in as you say a moe tysonesque atyle which was highly effective for Tyson. I sincerely thought that that was precisely what Canelo was aiming for, hence why I fekt he had a very good chance to win this bout. Mayweather did his part. Canelo DIDN’T. As I said before Mayweather is Beatable, it will take a workd class,experienced opponent with a high octane aggressive(effective) balls to the wall hard hitting offense and good defense to beat him. Most of these young fughters today don’t have the speed or the ring genera

Posted September 15, 2013 8:43 pm 


Very easy fight to score. You could make a case to give all 12 rounds to Floyd. Impossible to make any case to give Canelo anything above 4 rounds. I still think Canelo fought to the best of his ability. If Pacman beats Rios, which is far from a done deal I would still like to see him against Floyd. Manny is probably far below his prime. We will have to see against Rios. I actually want to see Canelo against GGG. I can accept a tune-up against Chaves Jr. I think he would give GGG a very good fight.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:37 pm 


Both sides have made excuses which prevent the fight of being made. You can’t just point fingers at one side and not look at the whole picture!!!!

Posted September 15, 2013 8:36 pm 


Everybody has a right to there opinion. But at the same time it is rather UNINTELLIGENT to compare fighters of different eras for the simple fact the fights cannot be made. So your just grasping for straws. Based on what we see today; Mayweather is THE BEST in the sport and because of that he has to go down as one of the GREATS.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:35 pm 

Fighting Words

@ PEEJ: I am not hating I am just making an observation. I have seen a lot more post on the boxing threads and so have you. It seems that those who are commenting are not making a construction analyzis of the fight. You are grossly bias, because you think that Mayweather is the best fighter that ever live and if someone have a different prespective on the view of the fight, then you consider that person as hating.
My point is I see Floyd skills for what they are, good but not great. He good in this era, but you ask who has really fought to justify his greatness. Pacquaio have a hugh following even in defeat, but Mayweather excuse not to fight him is no longer he is taking enhancement, but now he damage good.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:24 pm 


Only Amir Khan is fast enough to touch Mayweather. I can see Khan beating Mayweather, styles makes fights and Mayweather is perfect for Khan. I can see Khan knocking out Mayweather.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:23 pm 

Tomato Can

Lol, Canelo tried alright, he was trying to knock Mayweathers head off. He just couldn’t land much and Maywather was way to fast for him. Canelo thought he was ready, Delahoya thought he was ready and so did a lot of fans. I thought the fight would be a lot closer, the fact is Mayweather knows what to do in order to win better than anyone out there right now.

Posted September 15, 2013 8:09 pm 


Canelo did his best.., He was weight drained. He was getting hit. He didn’t have massive energy reserves. He would be foolish to waste himsself throwing and missing.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:44 pm 


Well anyway, so much for the “Big Fight” we all waited for. It really seemed like it went by fast.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:43 pm 


FA, you’re whining too much, like a sour loser. That’s not something you do often and if I were you I’d stop. Garcia fought a great fight and so did Floyd, congrat the winners and stop the whining, you’re better than that.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:39 pm 


I am not to sure this writer watched the same fight I did? In no way was it hard to score, Floyd via clear ud. As for harder shots? I saw some pretty good shots landed by Floyd and I didn’t see any problems with his defense. How can somebody write such a uselss article?

Posted September 15, 2013 7:34 pm 


Herron says.., “Canelo only fights sporadically because he trains that way.”

Canelo is a boxer. He doesn’t attack well. He waits, slips, and counters.. He opens up when he tags you, creating an opportunity. Floyd is the best boxer in the world, so he would have to be better to beat him.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:33 pm 


“Kid played it safe and decided to take his multi-million $ payday without getting hurt. That was a concession speech for 12 rounds.”

No he didn’t Fight Aficionado. It was clear that Canelo’s plan was to try to stand with and outbox Floyd. He thought he would be faster, could feint better, and hit Floyd more often. Sadly, Canelo couldn’t even make any adjustments. Canelo didn’t play it safe. He just didn’t measure up. But he tried like h3ll.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:32 pm 


Ivan, the fight was easy to score and easy to watch. Floyd clearly dominated Canelo.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:28 pm 


Plain and simple Floyd. Keep on making the majority pay to hope you lose. They say you hand pic opponents. I would say yes. Why, because their are a lot of latinos and their supporters that ignorance causes them to not sit back and analyze that your the man. You know delahoya is sick. Lmao! Keep hand picking Floyd, that’s where the money is. Stay smart

Posted September 15, 2013 7:27 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“As a boxing fan, i am very disappointed with Canelo. As Duran fought Leonard in their nonstop, exciting first match, and as Hagler fought Hearns in their explosive 3 round war…Canelo shoud have been all over FMJ! Mayweather fought a smart constant movement and brilliant counter punching boxing match.” – Good comments David D. I figured Floyd would win a UD via his normal boring pot shot routine, but expected Canelo to bring pressure at one point. He never did. Kid played it safe and decided to take his multi-million $ payday without getting hurt. That was a concession speech for 12 rounds.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:21 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Recap: Floyd won another boring fight with no fireworks. Garcia won with assistance of Tony Weeks let him break every rule in the book and granted a ghost KD. Molina beat Smith in fight everyone knew would suck, and if GBP has any sense Smith will never be on TV again. Cano vs Whatever we didn’t watch, another snorebore most likely. In all, not worth $75.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:17 pm 


Well there where 493 of the article saying Garcia and Floyd won. Floyd still pulls more post that anybody

Posted September 15, 2013 7:10 pm 


Floyd was bigger than Canelo O_O – he was 15+ pounds heavier, and Floyd’s frame was far more narrow. He was very small mass wise to Canelo, and not as strong at all. It wasn’t a hard fight to score, nor was it hard to watch… it just like a nice opportunity to watch FMJ in sparring. It was turned into an extremely overhyped bout…. annnnnd…. Canelo did come off the gas, to a point where I thought he was quitting and wanting to get stopped when he would lay in a corner getting punched over and over in his face. Canelo wanted to outbox Floyd with a power boxing style… but found out that….. 15-16-17 pounds isn’t enough to equalize them.. not against a 36 year old FMJ and apparently it wouldn’t be against a 37 year old Floyd.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:05 pm 


I wondered about that too. Not long before, an article about Floyd gets a gazillion post but lately though seems like not a lot of post under floyd article anymore.

Posted September 15, 2013 7:02 pm 


If they do over 1.5 mil they made money. With the closed circuit and sell out of the MGM I’m pretty sure they made money. Just sounds like your still hating and hoping for the worse. Look how many articles there are and how many post are on each article.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:58 pm 

Fighting Words

It appears that the fight did not break the PPV record judging from the posts that were made. Hours after the fight, ESB, don’t have a thread that have well over 200 comments and that is unlikely for fight with Mayweather and this was suppose to be a big fight, I can’t wait for the PPV number. If they are low, that mean Showtime is losing money on that 200 million deal, and it would be very interesting who Mayweather next apponant will be.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:55 pm 


There was no wait drained issue. Canelo said he had no issues making the weight. They said nothing during the lead up to the fight about any weight issues. As a matter of fact all you heard was how they were sending sparring partners home and how great his camp was going. Floyd is just that good. People tried to say Floyd would t stay in front of him and Floyd did, people said Canelo was just as fast, that was proven false, people said as soon as Canelo lands he would KO Floyd, again proven false

Posted September 15, 2013 6:52 pm 


Oh my this author right here, my opinion is if this piece of work you wrote made you feel good then good for you, however it will not change the facts, lets just accept and move on- a mismatch.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:48 pm 


The weight drain issue has caused Camela to be abnormally slow.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:47 pm 


If Rigondeux and Floyd ever fight hypothetically speaking, no one would ever get hit because they would be busy avoiding each other in the ring and backpedalling.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:45 pm 


Wait this is satire right?

Posted September 15, 2013 6:44 pm 


Not an easy fight to score? I’ve never seen an easier one. That judge was a moron.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:43 pm 


Camelo was simply to slow and sluggish. Cotto did far better against floyd than Camela did. Cotto was more agressivie and faster than Camela.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:38 pm 


Yeah Floyd would toy with Pac.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:37 pm 

old guy

in his own words, Floyd is a chessmaster and that is the style that works best for him. Canelo’s best style needs to evolve into an early Tyson-type style, lots of bobs and weaves, coming forward, getting inside, then being a pitbull with hooks and uppercuts, and he needs to do it at 160. Canelo is short and stocky so he shouldn’t try to be so much of a boxer as he was trying last night, that’s not his advantage. He is still young and has a lot of potential in Middleweight if he lets himslself evolve his natural strengths.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:37 pm 

De Lima I.

there’s no way he would beat the legendary Manny Pacquiao back then or today.

You cannot be serious?

Posted September 15, 2013 6:36 pm 

Joseph Herron

Turbo Hamster: “Wow this article is so bad it is like the author just took a $h1t directly into my eyeballs.”

LOL!!! That’s a real gem right there!!

Posted September 15, 2013 6:35 pm 


I thought the fight last night would go exactly that way. Canelo is good, but he lacked experience. He was always 2 seconds too late. He did fight well, and I think he’s going to get better, but it wasn’t his time. he needs to fight top guys not guys that are smaller. He’ll be back. Floyd as I have always said is a good boxer with a lot of athleticism. He fought a great fight, and really impressed me. Floyd was very, very good last night. I have to give him credit, but there’s no way he would beat the legendary Manny Pacquiao back then or today. Someone make the fight happen. The fight itself was good, but far from great.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:30 pm 


Wow this article is so bad it is like the author just took a $h1t directly into my eyeballs.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:25 pm 


jaguar has the beat!

Posted September 15, 2013 6:17 pm 


If you don’t enjoy watching Floyd perform then it’s time for you to switch to MMA…

Posted September 15, 2013 6:15 pm 


This article is terrible absolutely terrible. Obviously written by one of Mayweathers many haters. The author grudgingly gives credit where its due whilst trying to distort facts. Crap writing, crap ‘opinions’.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:12 pm 

Joseph Herron

I warned everyone on my Sunday night show last week that Canelo wasn’t going to 1) have the ability to effectively shorten the distance and cut off the ring and 2) have the conditioning to execute it even if he had the ability.

Canelo learned a hard lesson last night…at the elite level, you have to train like you’re serious about winning. Canelo only fights sporadically because he trains that way.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:06 pm 


Some of these articles are horrible. This is one that I deem horrible.

Posted September 15, 2013 6:01 pm 

david d.

As a boxing fan, i am very disappointed with Canelo. As Duran fought Leonard in their nonstop, exciting first match, and as Hagler fought Hearns in their explosive 3 round war…Canelo shoud have been all over FMJ! Mayweather fought a smart constant movement and brilliant counter punching boxing match. Youth, skills, strength, and weight advantage, did not serve Canelo well. Congrats FMJ!!

Posted September 15, 2013 5:59 pm 

Joseph Herron

Honestly, I thought it was Mayweather’s most impressive overall performance since Diego Corrales.

Posted September 15, 2013 5:52 pm 


Ivanov is a clown.., He is one of the few unknowledgeable novices who picked Canelo to win by KO.

Oscar De La Hoya picked Canelo to win by KO… Oscar picks EVERY Floyd opponent to win by KO… It’s Oscar’s job as a promoter to create interest in the fights he promotes… If you listen to him you’re an idiot.

Ivanov said, “punch stats do not reflect intentional shots to the chest.”

I’ll clue you in Ivanov the novice.. The chest is a legitimate scoring area.. Punches that land effectively on the chest add to your punch stats. They hurt, and can set your opponent up for follow up shots..

The fight was only boring to guys like you — who have no understanding of the finer points of boxing science, and only want to see Floyd flattened..

And it was an easy fight to score because it was easy to see Floyd landed the cleaner, harder punches in most of the rounds.

Posted September 15, 2013 5:40 pm 


This article was pure trash. How did Mayweather underperform? Because he took his time and analyzed his opponent. Above all else, Mayweather is a thinker in the ring. You said his shoulder roll had little effect? What fight were you watching? Did you see Canelo connect percentage? It was lower than usual like most of Mayweather’s opponents and part of that was the shoulder roll. SO WHAT if Canelo got a few shots in. That didn’t mean the shoulder roll wasn’t effective. Go back to the Soviet Union Ivan Drago. What a dumb ass article!

Posted September 15, 2013 5:24 pm 

Reality Check

Mayweather has created his own level – he is at the moment untouchable – his ring IQ , skills, matched with speed agility guile and champion spirit are currently unequalled in the modern game. Don’t believe me, name one fighter from 140 – 147 division(which is loaded with talent )that could lay a glove on him?

Posted September 15, 2013 5:19 pm 


I must have watched a different fight

Posted September 15, 2013 5:16 pm 


The writer is a Canelo fan and above all a May hater!!! Just because Canelo did not do what you wanted does not mean we the fan did not enjoy the fight. Look at previous fight prediction and you’ll see and read how many ppl predicted the fight for Mayweather.

Only Canelo fan thought he was going to impose and fight like Ricky Haton did toward Mayweather.

Sorry your boxer dissapointed you but mine did what was expected.

Posted September 15, 2013 4:58 pm 


I’m not sure if this is skewed or just a very poor piece of journalism by the scribe. Floyd good portions of the fight in a crouch when in front of Canelo, poised to spring towards his midsection with the jab or spring back away from retaliatory counters. is so called arm punches were actually quick counters used with a quick twist or pivot of his torso to avoid the counter or push off the lead leg to get the speed and snap into jab….There are so many more snide statements here that its not worth bothering to comment.
However, I will agree that both men under performed…. Or each man’s perception of the other was enough to limit their usual strengths.

Canelo stumbled in each of the first 3 rounds, which leads me to believe he was a bit hampered/ weakened by making weight. Floyd didn’t shoot off many hooks for fear of being countered, but as expected boxed his way to an early lead over the first 5 rounds laying the gauntlet down for Canelo to try and take the fight from him over the stretch….

My conclusion is Floyd beat Canelo mentally, without ever having to change gears in the bout.

The future for both: Floyd is a little unclear…. Does he test himself at 154 with the likes of Lara or drop down to 147 and look at Alexander, Khan, Garcia and the winer of Pac and Rios if a deal can be made /w or w/o Rob Arum?

Alvarez now should look to move to 160 and chase down an all Mexican bonanza /w Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr, before he jumps to 168. This will keep Canelo at the top of the sporting table and make a pile of PPV cash for both on Cinco de Mayo….

Canelo can even chase Darren Barker or call out Maravilla, but should avoid Kid Chocolate and GGG at this stage as both men have serious KO power….

I can’t see him staying at 154 as a rematch /w Mayweather won’t happen and Carlos Molina will not generate a dime……

Posted September 15, 2013 4:44 pm 

Boxing Barlow

And there is no one left now for Mayweather to fight other than Pacman.

Posted September 15, 2013 4:34 pm 

Boxing Barlow

This was a bad night for boxing. Mayweather is a legend in our generation and Alvarez is a great fighter too. This should have been a classic. A Hagler Hearns. But it was like watching paint dry.

Posted September 15, 2013 4:31 pm 


Tough to score???????? Joke – right?

Posted September 15, 2013 4:03 pm 

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