It’s Me, Ernie
He didn’t put up much of an argument against the ref after the stoppage. Something odd about that ending…Posted July 23, 2013 11:18 am
His will didn’t erode a bit… He asked for an immediate rematch.. When you get hit hard behind the head the count should be waved off.. It’s not a legal area to hit somebody … If it’s NOT waved off you take a 9-count if you can.. Basic instructions you get from day one.. Make sure your equilibrium is solid or you’ll get up on unsteady legs. In Philly, if the referee missed the illegal punch he would still wipe the gloves and say “step to me” the bell would than ring… In England? A super fast count and a BS ending.Posted July 22, 2013 7:54 pm
I think Scott’s will might have eroded there. That 1 second hesitation after ref reached 8 is a sign that he wasn’t sure he wanted to deal with what was coming next. Everyone knows you gotta get up at 8 to show you’re good to go. Beating the count by 0.5 seconds = I’m not sure if I’m ready but won’t be counted out.Posted July 22, 2013 6:08 pm
If round have ended it would be enough to get up before 10 (saved by the bell) but if the round’s still going on you must be up until 8 and then show that you are capable/willing to continue until 10. That’s how the rules say..Posted July 22, 2013 1:22 am
no controversy to it scott was going to be KO’ed weather he got up on notPosted July 21, 2013 6:17 pm
Anyone been in the ring amtear or pro on a knock down u rise at 7 0r8 scott was looking for a way outPosted July 21, 2013 3:35 pm
shades of Mike Tyson vs Carl the Truth Williams…
memories…Posted July 21, 2013 3:08 pm
Don’t blame the tainted referee but Malik Scott’s promoter, what the hell’s going to England to fight Frank Warren’s protege? and Malik Scott is not even a big puncher, so his only chance to win was by decisionPosted July 21, 2013 3:08 pm
FRank Warren says he will get Another big name Heavyweight to fight Chisora in September, Frank, Malik Scott never was,is not, and never will be a big name heavyweight, except when you were building up this fight.Posted July 21, 2013 2:34 pm
Yeah……and they want Ward to go there. LolPosted July 21, 2013 1:44 pm
That punch did not land behind the head. It was perfectly legit. Can’t say the same for the count. That was the fastest 10 count I’ve ever seen. Fight should have continued.Posted July 21, 2013 1:31 pm
Where on earth did this crap about the ‘accidental rabbit punch’ come from? There is not a ref in the world that would not call that a legitimate knockdown. They were square on when Dereck threw that punch, how on earth could it be an accidental rabbit punch?? I’ve never heard anything so retarded. If Scott had his back to Dereck or even side on there could be a case for a foul shot but if you are standing in front of your opponent and throw a looping overhand right, there is no way it can land on the back of your opponent’s head as a foul shot. Even if they turn their head after the punch is thrown, what they do after the punch is thrown is clearly out of your control.
The shot was perfectly legal and landed on the side of the head. Verbatim from Scott post fight..’Dereck hit me with a good shot. It was one of those shots that was right by the ear, the equilibrium shot’. Unlike most of the ‘experts’ on here, I reckon Scott himself would have been in the best position to state where the punch landed. He was also still on the floor when the ref got to 9, as evidenced by all the footage. Are people unable to watch footage before they make ridiculous claims??Posted July 21, 2013 12:32 pm
Ah okPosted July 21, 2013 12:15 pm
That officiating was a joke. Chisora was excessively holding and wrestling while the ref did nothing to break them. When Scott finally started pushing off to escape using his forearms then the ref starts warning Scott, while ignoring Chisora initiating the grappling. Then that count was a joke. He was speed counting. Scott had all of his faculties and when the ref saw him rise waived the fight off before he got to 10. Garbage.
That being said, I felt Chisora honestly impressed me. I thought Dereck had a great chance of winning that fight 100% above board. He didn’t need any gaming by the promoter. Chisora’s body work was vicious and he used great movement in spurts to come in to land great shots (like the one that put Scott down). It was Chisora’s night as he had put in all the hard work to be the best Chisora we have seen in ages. Chisora was robbed as much as Scott was.
Scott was landing some great shots, but he seemed a bit sluggish overall. I always wondered if he didn’t have power or he was just non-committal when punching due to being overly cautious. I think I got my answer. Chisora’s body work seemed to really take something out of Scott, but Scott rallied well. He just didn’t seem like the Scott I thought I knew. I hope to see him fight again at this level to better gauge his skill.
Hats off to both men. That ref should never officiate a championship bout again!Posted July 21, 2013 10:02 am
this officiating has made me jump to matchroomPosted July 21, 2013 8:31 am
Ben Hill…Are there any Mableek Scott fans in Philly?Thats a tough town where they like tough guys not dancers and prancers..Posted July 21, 2013 8:17 am
have to agree if it was the other way around people would be up in arms, that said though still doesn’t explain why he waited till 9.5 to get up, if he really wanted to continue he would have been up by eightPosted July 21, 2013 8:16 am
im from uk and am embarrassed by this. frank warren is a crook and these things always happen on his shows. eg enzo maccarinelli v ovil mackenzie just one that springs to mind when the round was cut short because his man enzo was out on his feet.
chisora was losing on pts and im sure frank warren had some ‘influence’ over the ref as he does a lot of other refs in uk
Malik scott should have got up on the 7 or 8 count if he was ok, not 9.5 so he made a mistake but it shouldnt have cost him the fight at allPosted July 21, 2013 8:04 am
Scott didnt want anymore or he would have got up. Well done delPosted July 21, 2013 8:02 am
jus read and learn
The fact that there is a big debate about whether he got up in time or not shows that it should not have been stopped. Had the ref let the fight continue, NOT ONE person would have complained saying that he should have been counted out. Even if he got up and was wobbling all over the place, u might feel the ref was slightly more justified to stop the fight, but the fact is he got up BEFORE the 10 count with all his senses in tact and the ref just waived of a fight which was warming up and the fans deserved to see. This is boxing and the ref should have some friggin common sense to know when to let a fight continue. Had this been the other way round and this happen to chisora or another english fighter, everyone would be up in arms including those bias commentators who could clearly see he got up before 10 but chose to ignore it.Posted July 21, 2013 7:36 am
Why going to England to fight a big name of british boxing when you are a undefeated american? hello, Goossen Tutor Promotions ???Posted July 21, 2013 3:25 am
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Gonzo Chisora is far away from being the best hw, even if he is in shape !Posted July 21, 2013 2:41 am
Tark you are full of crap. Just a bag full of wet t.u.r.dPosted July 21, 2013 2:36 am
The previous post was not me… PEEJ… He started getting up well before 9… He was up at 9… He didn’t start getting up at 9..
It was an accidental rabbit punch which means the referee is supposed to signal “no knockdown” signal to the judges it was an accidental rabbit punch, and give Scott up to 5 minutes to recover. No points are deducted but you can’t score a knockdown with an illegal blow.
But what happens often is the referee just starts counting because it wasn’t an intentional rabbit punch — like the referee did when Peter accidentally rabbit punched Wladimir… Often referees don’t know the rules, and seemingly neither do the commentators.Posted July 21, 2013 1:41 am
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No Tark. If you start rising at 9 you are giving every opportunity for the ref to reach 10. And apparently in this case the ref reached 10. There is no half second count. I didn’t see the fight but from what I read he started rising at 9 and that caused him to lose. In most fights I’ve seen when you rise at 8 the ref reaches 9. So if you wait till 9 to rise your giving the ref the opportunity to reach 10Posted July 21, 2013 12:34 am
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Good articlePosted July 20, 2013 11:25 pm
PEEJ you’re an idiot… You have a full 10 seconds to beat the count.Posted July 20, 2013 11:20 pm
The referee was a bit of a joke. Scott was hard done by and a rematch would be a good fight. Dereck Chisora however is a fighter with big cahunas, he is a throwback and will fight anybody so good luck to him, wasn’t his fault the ref ballsed it up.Posted July 20, 2013 11:06 pm
Not used to fighting at that level.Posted July 20, 2013 9:46 pm
Scott was going to lose anyway, forget the 10 count.Posted July 20, 2013 9:44 pm
GONZO OF BETHLEHEM
Chisora is the best heavyweight when he’s in shape. He would have brutally knocked out David Haye if he went into that fight with the same conditioning he had in this fight. Chisora will become the next champ. Gonzo is always rightPosted July 20, 2013 9:43 pm
“The fighter needs to be up at 9 otherwise it`s counted out in the act of rising.”
If he was down till the count of 9 and rose then you pretty much lost. That’s on him. He should of got up at 8.Posted July 20, 2013 8:57 pm
Chisora is a rock, you just don’t knock him out, but Haye is different, he can really punch.Posted July 20, 2013 8:42 pm
So the David Haye wannabe got knocked down by a Del-boy punch? Lol…..Posted July 20, 2013 8:39 pm
And once again I AM CORRECT with Chisora WINNING just as I predicted. I am the GREATEST fight prophet EVER born!!!Posted July 20, 2013 8:30 pm
The fighter needs to be up at 9 otherwise it`s counted out in the act of rising.Posted July 20, 2013 8:29 pm
What a chump Scott is. Crap overhand right and he wanted no further action. Failed to get up in 9.5 seconds and the refs expected to make a decision if he’s able to continue or not? He simply didn’t want to know. At least if he was furious in the ring you could say it was a joke but as it is he didn’t and was shown to be a 35-0 chump fighter exposed by a 16-4 chorizoPosted July 20, 2013 8:05 pm
as i previously stated chisora by clowning, or was it drowning ?Posted July 20, 2013 7:46 pm
Scott didn’t risk anything gettting up at 9… If he was required to be up by 9.5 he should have been able to continue… As it is the referee tolled much faster than the referee tolled over Buster Douglas… Scott got up exactly when he meant to get up.. At 9.. He was robbed blind.
If Scott doesn’t get a rematch the result should be changed to NC. He did NOT legitimately incur a loss on his record, and he could successfully challenge it.. I would challenge the living HELL out of it with the British Boxing authorities.. The referee can’t beat you.
The reason you stay down for 9 after a possible equilibrium shot, is you don’t want your feet to waver a tick when you get up. Which happend to David Price in the Thompson fight and L Lewis in the McCall fight. The dumbest thing was Zab Judah jumping up when Kostya Tszyu nailed him. His feet and equilibrium needed a 9-count to give him a chance. But you don’t know for sure if your feet are there until you get up. You play it safe with a 9-count … which is smart. You have a better chance.Posted July 20, 2013 7:41 pm
Saunders has great skills,but wished he had some better power.But the kid has great ring IQ and at 23 looks pretty special…Posted July 20, 2013 7:23 pm
a well written and rounded article good work by the writer both impartial and informativePosted July 20, 2013 7:18 pm
one sided ud. saunders best performance to date i reckon.Posted July 20, 2013 7:02 pm
does anyone have any idea who won the billy joe saunders fight vs gary o’sullivan, please let me no the results thanksPosted July 20, 2013 6:56 pm