@ sasho ; Yeah , you called it first ; Wlad is ducking
I congratulate Stiverne for taking this version of the title. He won the fight he needed to. WBC named his opponent and stiverne won. He isn’t responsible for the quality or otherwise of the opponent. That said arreola isn’t anything like the best around. Ideally klit takes the mandatory vs pulev. Who has fair claims to a tilt. But I a. Sick of the garbage about wilder being a legitimate title contender. Even haye had much better credentials. At least he had been cw champ. Wilder is utterly untested and it is only the corrupt WBC and the bent electric hair do that ‘legitimazes’ his claims. SURELY you have to EARN a shot? Wilder hasn’t. Yes he may beat Stiverne but he shouldn’t yet have the chance. Not yerPosted May 15, 2014 2:53 am
after vitali power tripped and hung on the title for so long the WBC should make sure a few mandatorys take place first. Stiverne should make wlad wait in the same way vitali made hime wait for the title – what was it two years……Posted May 14, 2014 5:46 pm
Stiverne should stall Klitschko and makje some money.Posted May 14, 2014 4:22 pm
For those who view things correctly and without bias, it’s clear to see that Wladimir Klitschko is becoming one of the best HW champions ever. He’s a better, wiser and more accomplished boxer now than he was 10 years ago. That is called experience. Bermane Stiverne would only have a small chance to beat Wlad who is several leagues above the likes of Cris Arreola and Ray Austin…Stiverne brings a punch, but Klitschko has stepped in the ring with the likes of punchers like Haye, Sanders, Peter, Chagaev, Povetkin, Ibragimov, Williamson etc, so I doubt Wlad is overly concerned by Bermane Stiverne enough to sidestep the challenge…Pulev hopefully next for Wlad and then I’d like to see Wlad vs the WBC champion, probably either Stiverne or Wilder, sometime in 2015.Posted May 14, 2014 6:31 am
De Lima I.
@ — 06.09.2014 O2 Arena Hamburg, right — but not against
no one can beat wlad！if wlad can beat wach then he will certainly beat wilder. wilders a one hand bandit and mainly head hunts. anyway,pulevs the the next sorry victim to feel the klitschko wrath！Posted May 14, 2014 4:48 am
“wlad will knock Wilder out cold without any problem, easier fight than Stiverne”
how do you figure that? wilder is taller with a longer reach and punches harder than bermane. plus he’s one hell of a lot faster, strikes quicker, and trains harder.Posted May 14, 2014 4:27 am
the best possible scenario – Vlad beats Pulev, Wilder beats Stivern, then unification fight in the States. Fireworks guaranteed guys.Posted May 14, 2014 4:06 am
Pulеv-Wlаd > 6 09 2014 in Наmburg 0’2 world аrеnа!
90% surе !Posted May 14, 2014 3:26 am
wlad needs to get off the seat, do IBF mandatory or give the belt up. Vitali sat on the WBC forever. Wlad needs to get off the IBF klo. Wlad-Pulev 2014!Posted May 14, 2014 3:02 am
Vlad will knock Stiverne out if they ever fight, but Don King vowed to keep the Klitschkos from the titles for years because they woulld not sign with him. Vlad will knock Wilder out cold without any problem, easier fight than Stiverne. Vlad beat Wilder from one side of the ring to the other, knocked Wilder down with a jab. Vlad has superior skills, better chin, fought superior fighters, has good stamina, can to 12 without any problem, he is much stronger than Wilder. When Wilder tries to land his right hand on Vlad he will get countered and knocked out. Wilder is wide opern, no defense, if very off balance, too……..has never even fought a ranked fighter, not even in the top 30. Vlad is not like Wilder’s bums. Don King will do anything to keep Vlad from fighting Stiverne, but if things get better in Ukraine, Vitali can fight Stiverne and there is nothing Don King do about it, Vitali by knockou!!!!!!!Posted May 14, 2014 2:40 am
sasho says.., “Klitschko will never fight a dangerous puncher like Stiverne.”
That’s nuts.. He tried very hard to get fights with Lewis and Tyson. He fought devastating puncher David “Toe” Haye, who flattened Chisoa.
If Wladimir needs to be wary of anyone it’s Pulev, Fury, and Wilder.. Those guys are big and very powerful.. They can sling big right hand power shots at his chin.. Stiverne he can pound out with no trouble, he’s barely taller than Leapai.Posted May 13, 2014 11:47 pm
Stiverne can beat Pulev in my opinion. This is a dangerous fight for Wlad.Posted May 13, 2014 10:20 pm
Sasho– Out of all the people out there who have ducked fighters Wladimir isn’t one of them. He has never dropped his belt to not fight someone. He has always fought the mandatory. What makes you think he is going to drop his belt for Pulev? Makes no sense– He has absolutely nothing to worry about against Pulev. Povetkin was much more dangerous than Pulev will ever be.Posted May 13, 2014 8:40 pm
Klitschko wants to fight Stiverne only because he know that he is busy with Wilder , and after this fight will not happen Klitschko will say that Stiverne ducked him. Klitschko will never fight a dangerous puncher like Stiverne and at the same time he does not want to fight Pulev since Pulev is difficult opponent with great jab, footwork and stamina (stamina is always an issue for Klitschko).I predict that Klitschko will fight another bum, he will find someone.Posted May 13, 2014 7:45 pm
Fight Aficionado- I got to take him at his word. Stiverne said he was never hurt. Just got caught by a body shot that got his attention. I’ll watch it again but having watched the fight it seems as if the entire time he was luring arreola in to catch him with a counter.Posted May 13, 2014 6:55 pm
That’s a fair point. I agree that Pulev does have a great jab. I just don’t think he can outbox Wlad with it. He might have some success and make for a more competitive fight than most think (especially in the early rounds). But I don’t see how he’s going to stop Wlad from dropping the right hand, even if he can somehow (and this is a huge leap) out jab Wlad. Remember, Wlad kayoed a very difficult Tony Thompson using right hand power shots instead of his vaunted jab. He started throwing power shots and did not box as much and ultimately overwhelmed the weaker-punching Tiger. My guess is that will be exactly how he goes after Pulev. He’ll jab for a few rounds and then start throwing bombs. And I haven’t seen anything from Kubrat that tells me he can stop Wlad from doing just that.Posted May 13, 2014 4:16 pm
“I don’t think Stiverne was ever hurt. Every time Arreola had him in the ropes Stiverne was counterpunching. He was never hurt or out on his feet…” – Eric, it looked like he was hurt in the 3rd round pretty good, when Arreola was teeing off and he wasn’t countering. He recovered between rounds 3-4 pretty good though. In fact I think that’s why Arreola walked into the straight right counter, he did it in the 3rd without a problem. Stiverne set a lot of traps. Underestimated boxer.Posted May 13, 2014 3:35 pm
I think a lot of so called boxing fans must be watching a different fighter in Pulev,than the one I’ve seen a few times, he’s a sitting duck for Klitschko, he will get knocked out,and I’m not dreaming, neither am I leaningg towards Klitschko because he’s the champion, he’s just a way superior fighter.Posted May 13, 2014 3:11 pm
The only boss in the Wlad Klitschko-Ray Mercer bout was Klitschko after the first round. Impressive performance from Wlad against a still-tough Mercer.Posted May 13, 2014 3:04 pm
Yo what fight were you watching, Wladmir completely blown Mercer out , his offence was in Mercer’s face a completely overwhelming blow out of a fighter that had never been ko’d.
If you take off your Malcolm x glasses and rewatch it you will see.
Not being honest you lose mad cred son.
Agree, Wlad pretty much owned Mercer from round 1 until the end. Wlad’s offense back then was quite impressive. So sharp, fast, accurate, and willing to just crush your skull in.Posted May 13, 2014 3:03 pm
Eric, I did not argue that Mercer won.
I stated that he busted up Wlad’s face with the jab.
Even the announcers talked about the success of Mercer’s jab.
It was all he could land. He got destroyed, whipped, etc. But he did mark up and bruise Wlad’s face along the way…Posted May 13, 2014 2:46 pm
Brandon, I respect your reasoned analysis and see where you are coming from.
I just do not like the way Wlad is ignoring Pulev and trying to fight Stiverne instead.
Against Ustinov, Pulev bloodied his face primarily with the jab, early in round two.
He later knocked him out with a jab.
I don’t see how a man with no power can k.o. people with jabs…
Anyway, I hope they fight soon.
Would like to read your post-fight analysis.Posted May 13, 2014 2:39 pm
Yo what fight were you watching, Wladmir completely blown Mercer out , his offence was in Mercer’s face a completely overwhelming blow out of a fighter that had never been ko’d.
If you take off your Malcolm x glasses and rewatch it you will see.
Not being honest you lose mad cred son.Posted May 13, 2014 2:37 pm
At the end of the day, I can say the following without reservation: Yes, any heavyweight can lose on any given day. But Wlad has fought and bested several fighters that are similar to Kubrat Pulev, such as Ruslan Chagaev. Second, Pulev hasn’t impressed me at all. I’ve watched him on several occasions and concluded that he cannot punch, has not improved, and that he essentially fights an amateur style. And if that’s you’re style, you’re not being a guy who won the gold medal at super heavyweight and has never, ever been outboxed in a pro fight in 65 tries.Posted May 13, 2014 2:31 pm
You’re obviously stuck in a time warp, no disrespect. The Wlad that fought Ray Mercer was a hard-charging, aggressive power punch who fought on the front foot and pressed the action. That’s number one. Second, Mercer did not out jab Wlad in that fight…I know because I was there in Atlantic City for the fight. Yes, he landed some jabs as Wlad was coming in…If you’ve ever fought, you know that happens when you press the action. But it did nothing to stop Wlad from becoming the first man ever to KO Mercer. Third, Mercer did have one of the best jabs in heavyweight history. He DID completely and totally out jab Lennox Lewis in their fight, remember? Fourth, Wlad doesn’t fight in that style anymore. He fights tall with his back foot up and leans back when he has to in a defensive position. Fifth and finally, there’s not a change in Hades that Pulev out jabs Wlad. How do I know? Because his feet are just to slow. Yes, he has a good-looking jab against the heavy bags with feet and mastadons he’s been fighting over in Europe like Ustinov (give me a break), but he has never fought a fighter who has the jab and movement of Wlad. I guarantee you he’ll look slow and sloppy and will abandon his “out jab Wlad plan” by the 3rd round.Posted May 13, 2014 2:13 pm
Brandon, your logic cuts like steelPosted May 13, 2014 1:42 pm
Brandon, my start of watching Wlad was around the time he fought Ray Mercer.
Ray Mercer was shot, old, and slow– yet had NO problem busting Wlad up with the jab.
In fact, Mercer couldn’t miss with the jab. Mercer’s jab was wrecking havoc.
Mercer is nowhere near as fast, agile, crafty, or energetic as Pulev.
While Mercer had a hard, stinging jab, Pulev has a powerful, k.o.-inducing jab.
Wlad is a sucker for jabs, and Pulev is an extremely dangerous jabber.
If 40 year old slugger Ray Mercer can hammer Wlad with jabs, what makes Pulev unlikely to do even better?Posted May 13, 2014 12:51 pm
Pulev is a pretty competent, solid and consistent fighter. But thats not nearly enough to dethrone Wlad. It would work with anyone else, though, including Stiverne.Posted May 13, 2014 12:42 pm
Sorry, more than 3 times. Wlad has 65 pro bouts compared to just 20 for Pulev. And both guys are clearly in their prime. If this were a case of an aging fighter like Ali at the end against a young lion like Holmes, you’d have a point. But you don’t because it isn’t.Posted May 13, 2014 12:27 pm
Pulev is extremely old for a fighter that only has only 20 professional bouts. Extremely. Know how many fights Wlad had at the same age? 57! So the difference in experience isn’t minor, it’s glaring! You’re talking about a fighter who has not lost in 10 yeara and who has fought 3 times more professional fights and 16 times as many championship ones. Really, are we actually speaking logically here?Posted May 13, 2014 12:24 pm
Also Lamont Brewster knocked him out, and he is short. Wladimir looked little bit gassed out on that moment and he had already scored several knock downs. It all started from a shot to the neck of Wladimir, as Brewster’s forearm connected, not the glove and it clearly did damage just before the actual TKO.Posted May 13, 2014 12:24 pm
Simple. He was a southpaw. How easy was that? Wlad had never, to that point, faced a hard-hitting southpaw. Sanders also knew he had one shot in the fight–to jump on Klitschko and catch him cold in the first 2 rounds. Pulev won’t and can’t do that. Firstly, he’s not tall or long enough to get inside on a defensive-minded fighter who is at least 3 inches taller than him and who fights tall. Pulev, if anything, fights small and fights cautiously, since his jab is the primary advantage he has over most fighters. He won’t have that against Wlad. Also, Corrie Sanders had quick feet and could throw the left hand in singles, without a jab. That gave him a clear speed advantage over a 1-2 fighter like Wlad. Pulev cannot throw a lead right at all.Posted May 13, 2014 12:18 pm
Wlad would KO both Pulev and Stiverne. Wrong styles to beat him. It would be more interesting to see them fighting each other. I would bet on Pulev by points.
You need some one to savagely “crush” Wladimir, like a brawler. 1)Either some one of equal size who can avoid the clinching, go to short distance and tag him with hooks. (Since no one has a right like he has, Pulev has the jab, but it’s not enough) 2)Or some one short but really fast, who can avoid the clinching by throwing big hooks from movement and/or being really fast from the legs. Kind of prime Mike Tyson style.Posted May 13, 2014 11:59 am
Mike Tyson was retired by Kevin McBride…does that make McBride the better fighter prime for prime..lol..ofcourse not.Last time I checked box rec Lewis beat V.K…not enough evidence to change the results…or it would have happened…Posted May 13, 2014 11:28 am
Brandon, with all due respect, what physical advantage did Corrie Sanders have over Wlad?
Who was older, Wlad or Corrie?
Wlad is 4 years older, but you act like Pulev is over the hill…
Wlad IS better than Pulev in every single category- just like he was better than Sanders and Brewer in every single category.
Sometimes boxing is more mental than physical.
Pulev while not as good as Wlad, has infinitely more chance of beating him than anyone else has.
Pulev and Wlad are perfectly capable of KO’ing each other with jabs alone…Posted May 13, 2014 11:06 am
Tony thompson in an interview after his win against solis says he believes Wlad will destroy Pulev easily. I’ve only seen one of his fights against Dimitrenko. I wasn’t impressed. Wlad destroys pulevPosted May 13, 2014 10:46 am
Wladimir is going to fight Kubrat Pulev next. Wlad easy UD scoring a couple of knockdowns 118-109 117-109 118-108..Posted May 13, 2014 10:40 am
numb skullsPosted May 13, 2014 10:38 am
The goat got KOed fair and square by golfer, a non-contender and a stalker. Now, Pulev-Wlad 2014 or strip the belt so Pulev can wear it after he beats “glove kopf”. Wlad can go and unify the WB-whatevers without the IBF. If Wlad is up to it, he can fight to get the IBF back next year if he is in line to fight for the belt. What goes around, comes around. Damn all you guys talk of Kbros fair guys . . . play fair. By the rules . . . A Phd don’t make a man.Posted May 13, 2014 10:29 am
You are clearly delusional. Kubrat “easily dismantled Tony Thompson.” First off, you’re wrong. The fight was slow and boring and Kubat won a solid decision (one judge had it 116-112), so there was no dismantling. He beat up a 40-year old fighter that Wladimir knocked out twice. Wow! Let’s be honest…Kubrat is a good boxer, but a good little man does not beat a good big man. Kubrat doesn’t have a single physical advantage in the proposed fight, and he isn’t even a young guy–which means he has no upside. Not a change he beat Wladimir.Posted May 13, 2014 10:22 am
Lennox Was Retired By Vitali And His Mamma
Lennox’s Canadian-British-Jamaican a$$, that is!!!Posted May 13, 2014 10:12 am
Lennox Was Retired By Vitali And His Mamma
Vitali was whupping Lennox 5-1 in rounds but Lennox cheated, had a totally inept referee who couldn’t see anything that happened on his side and got lucky that Vitali was cut so badly. His momma told him NOT to fight that big Ukrainian dude again! Vitali ran Lewis’ Canadian a$$ right out of boxing!Posted May 13, 2014 10:10 am
Pulеv hаs morе thаn 300 аmаtеur fights , аnd likе Еmаnuеl Stеwаrd sауs. -АmаtеuR pеdigrее is thе ,,world,,.!!
Stуlе mаkе fights, cobrеti is nаturаl born fightеr > purе boxеr!Posted May 13, 2014 10:01 am
Wlad will fight and dominate Pulev for his next bout, make no mistake. Stiverne won’t come anywhere near Wlad, or Wilder IF he gets a shot and IF he wins the belt, anytime soon. Wlad will beat up Pulev, then he will pick the best ranked, undefeated and available noob once or twice to keep his belts and leave Stiver/Wilder/Whoever out of credible opponents. By middle 2015 we will have an unified champion.Posted May 13, 2014 9:35 am
f~k of clitorisPosted May 13, 2014 8:35 am
Of course, Pulev ain’t much.
Just an undefeated number 1 contender, 250 lbs, fantastic stamina, solid chin, extremely powerful jab thathas ko’ed people, and a sterling amateur pedigree.
A man who dismantled Tony Thompson with ease…
Obviously Wlad realizes Pulev is far better than Brewster and Sanders.
But to some fans, Stiverne is much more worthy than the IBF mandatory.
Stiverne could not beat Pulev if his life depended on it…Posted May 13, 2014 8:08 am
GOAT??? Holmes, Tyson, Ali, Frazier – I could read off a bunch of names of fighters who have done more in their careers and will leave a more lasting legacy!!!Posted May 13, 2014 7:55 am
Do you people really follow these guys? Pulev has done or shown nothing that makes one think he could even test wlad. Again he will get praise and wlad run down bfore the fight and then after pulev losses everyone ill say hes a nobody. The only way wlad get to fight stiverne is to offer king the entire purse. Other than that king will not take a sure loss fight.Posted May 13, 2014 7:53 am
wlad vs pulev 2014, wilder vs stiverne 2014, chisora vs fury 2014. Boxing gods make it happen!!!Posted May 13, 2014 7:50 am
Pulev ain’t much. Unification trumps mandatories.Posted May 13, 2014 7:13 am
Assyrian agreedPosted May 13, 2014 5:29 am
wlad is not even in line for the WBC. Wlad needs to get in line too just like he told Twinkle toes. Wlad is not interested in holding and defending the IBF, Pulev-Glazkov IBF 2014!Posted May 13, 2014 3:53 am
“Basically, Wladimir sent him a tweet asking Stiverine to mail back his belt.” LOL LOL LOL, ironically rightfully so too!Posted May 13, 2014 2:56 am
I get why vlad would look at ztiverne. Never had a chance to unify while vitali had it. Scared of Pulev? Ffs some of you guys are deluded. I’d lime pulev next. He’s good and deserves his shot. But wilder no more deserves his shot than I do. I’ve beaten up several ageing cab drivers in pub car parks too. That makes me equally entitled to a title fight as wilder. Congrats to stiverne. Hope he enjoys the title while he has it. Get a couple of good paydays then cash it in against wlad. BS, a word of warning: don king is a crook who only ever does what makes don king money.Posted May 13, 2014 2:47 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Stiverne will do all he can to avoid Wilder for as long as possible. Don King hasn’t had a heavyweight titlist since Samuel Peter, they cashed out for 4 million against Vitali and it proved a disastrous move. I doubt King will want to rush into Wladimir and make the same mistake. Stiverne, should he beat Wilder but personally I see him losing, will try to hold his belt and make solid money on exposure based title defences. I can’t see why everyone is calling this bout a joke. I’m happy we finally have some momentum for future fightsPosted May 13, 2014 2:22 am
Stiverne needs to defend title against Leapai and then Rahman. Wlad-Pulev 2014. Pulev and someone else who is more willing fight for the IBF.Posted May 13, 2014 2:17 am
Take the IBF belt away. Wlad does not want to play.Posted May 13, 2014 2:15 am
Blast the bubble
more realisticPosted May 13, 2014 12:56 am
Blast the bubble
The rumour was that changev was discussing a title fight with stiverne and King before the arreolla fight. They were hoping for a volentry defence before going in with Wilder and there is still a chance of this, however apparently more realistického now would be Wider v Changev with the winner getting Stiverne if my sources are correct. whatch this spacePosted May 13, 2014 12:55 am
Wlad is starting to look scared of Pulev.
Stiverne, Wilder, Fury are child’s play for Wlad.
Pulev is the only man on the same level as Wlad .
Pulev is the mandatory. Wlad is begging for the IBF to give him an opportunity to duck Pulev.
Pulev has been number 1 since 2012.
Either fight him, or hand over the belt.
Wlad is starting to resemble Mayweather…Posted May 13, 2014 12:04 am
Аgаin Wlаd hidе from Pulеv!Posted May 12, 2014 11:39 pm
stiverne will be kept on the outside and just be jabbed all night long. Wlads hands are too fast, he is too quick on his feet, his jab is too good, he is much taller than stiverne and will fight a very smart fight. Stiverne has very little chance against wlad. Thompson may also beat stiverne as may wilder and fury. These guys are much taller than him, he struggles with a 6’5 ray austin. Anyone who fights stiverne and comes to brawl on the inside is toast. Perez or Takem vs stiverne would be a war. Lucas browne vs stiverne would be an interesting fight but stay away from guys over 6’5.Posted May 12, 2014 11:29 pm
I disagree. I don’t think stiverne will get destroyed. I see that fight playing out like Klitschko vs Ibragimov. BS trying his best to lure wlad in , but he doesn’t fall for it then goes on for a boring decision.Posted May 12, 2014 11:28 pm
WK would beat BS pretty bad. It would be very one-sided.Posted May 12, 2014 11:05 pm
I don’t think Stiverne was ever hurt. Every time Arreola had him in the ropes Stiverne was counterpunching. He was never hurt or out on his feet, I think he was playing possum to lure CA in so he can counter. Same way he caught him at the end of the first round. I suspect he’ll try the same thing against Wlad. He’ll play possum like he’s hurt and then when Wlad goes in for the Kill . Stiverne will look to counter with a looping right. I just don’t think Wlad will fall for it though.Posted May 12, 2014 9:28 pm
Bears, #1 Stiverne never fought travis walker. Yes he did look awful against austin but he closed the show. Although I think Stiverne beats Wilder. I don’t think there’s an outpouring of people here or on the Net saying they think Stiverne will beat Wlad. Fact is it’s a bit refreshing for many people to have a champ not named klitschko. Sets up for a unification. Plus we actually have a few names in the division that people are getting excited about so. Let Bermane have his moment. It’s not like he didn’t/doesn’t have a desire to face klitschko. I would love to see unification right away but more I think about it, I think I want to see stiverne destroy wilder first, (And Wlad easily beat pulev) then Set up big money unification. That way all the mandatories are taken care of and it will make the unification that much sweeter.Posted May 12, 2014 9:25 pm
like to see wilder/stiverne.Posted May 12, 2014 9:19 pm
i dont think the pre manny wlad looses to stieverne ever. stiverne struggle with austin and travis walker. people here are talking this guy up way too much. arreola had potential but lets be honest even travis walker dropped him and arreola looked bad against turds. looking at arreolas career as a whole the sux and he was dominating the boxgAme against stieverne til stieverne landed a hurtful shot. stieverne was hurt inthe fight. getting trapped in the corners and getting tee’ed off on. stievernes corner got irate and worried following this. some of u dummies are HIGHLY over rating stieverne. his boxing skill is sorry. he is basically a heavy hitterPosted May 12, 2014 8:49 pm
Stiverne please don’t fight Wladmir yet. As soon as he(Wlad) takes the title from you he just gonna bore up the division AGAIN. Lol y’all wonder why the division hasn’t been talked about in the last 10-15 years..its cause of the Klits.Posted May 12, 2014 8:11 pm
I just hope Stiverne doesn’t fight Denis Boytsov… and I’m also happy that Alex Leapai beat the fk out of Boytsov — so we didn’t have to sit through that mofo fighting a horrendously stink-ass fight versus Wladimir.
I’d like to see Stiverne fight some serious opposition like Jennings, Wilder, or Fury — if he’s not going to fight Wladimir… I hope pundits and boxing fans shut down the Internet with thunderous outrage if Don King starts lining up tomato cans.Posted May 12, 2014 7:48 pm
The pre-Manny Steward Wlad would have gotten KO’d by Stiverne. The Post-Manny Steward Wlad boxes big. He will jab and pound Stiverne from the outside. Stiverne backs up and hopes to counter with some big body shots and head shots. Stiverne won’t get that chance for a counter. Today’s Wlad won’t get sucked into that kind of fight. Wlad will jab from the outside, throw some big combinations and back off. If Stiverne comes inside, he will have to take a couple punches to get inside and Wlad will smartly hold. Ref will break them, rinse, and repeat until Stiverne is broken down. A small heavyweight has to have Tyson like head movement to get inside on Wlad. None of the small heavies have that today. I don’t think Stivern would last 8 rounds against Wlad.Posted May 12, 2014 7:45 pm
I think just by looking at fight footage, His sparring with David haye , & him getting dinged in the amatuers. Deontay is susceptible to a counter right. We’ve seen what BS right hand is all about. I think he times wilder and takes him out. Just my opinion. I want to see unification but at the same time in the long run. After Wlad easily dispatches Pulev, and Stiverne derails the hype train that is Wilder. Unification bout will be that much sweeter. People don’t give BS ANY chance against Wlad but if he dispatches Wilder, (Similar height & reach) People will start to believe in Stiverne and it makes a Wlad vs. Stiverne unification That much more attractive.Posted May 12, 2014 7:05 pm
Biggest payday BS could get.Posted May 12, 2014 6:42 pm
Also guys let’s hold off on all the assumptions. As I said in another thread , after stiverne beat CA the first time. Don King was talking ALL kinds of crap saying they were aiming at the klitchko’s. I mean Don King has been boosting BS up something ridiculous. Even comparing him to prime Mike Tyson,( yeah I know ridiculous but he did say that). So my thinking is if he was Real eager to get stiverne to fight Vitali, I don’t think he would take much issue with putting him against Wlad.
in all fairness, Stiverne JUST won the title barely 48 hrs ago. I’m sure he’s still in celebration Party mode. Give him a few weeks for the high to come down , then i’m sure we can expect some word on his plans.Posted May 12, 2014 6:24 pm
he wants to hug him all night longPosted May 12, 2014 6:11 pm
Wlad will just wait till Stiverne loses his WBC belt, which gets Don King out of the way by default.. Then, Wlad can take on Wilder! … And you know, I wouldn’t be surprised if King has Stiverne avoiding Wilder, seeing how that is just too dangerous a fight..Posted May 12, 2014 5:50 pm
Yep, he wants the belt and will get it.Posted May 12, 2014 5:35 pm
I don’t think Wlad’s concerned about Pulev or Stiverne. But he wants all those belts, he’s been vocal about that since Vitali retired. So he’ll go for Stiverne unless Don King plays keepaway.Posted May 12, 2014 5:10 pm
Vladimir to unify! After that, he might give two belts back, maybe even three, just to wait and fight the new champs in a year or two.Posted May 12, 2014 4:39 pm
watch out for anthony joshua in 2-3 years, he’ll wipe the floor with wilder……Posted May 12, 2014 4:02 pm
Stiverne is more likely to grant Wladimir unification fight than Wilder, but it’s unlikely it will be 1st match. Most likely course:
Grabimir still ducking Pulev I thought that was his next fight. Why not take care of Pulev first, too dangerous of a fight?Posted May 12, 2014 3:48 pm
Wlad never seems interested in Pulev…
Wanna fight anyone but Pulev…Posted May 12, 2014 3:38 pm
They should give the title defense to wilder not wlad because wlad is gonna get all the belts at the end of the day any way so give the other fighters a chance to duke it out and then out of all the prospects who ever is left standing can fight wladPosted May 12, 2014 3:32 pm
I’d love to see Wlad get the chance to unify ALL the belts. He deserves the chance. If the WBC allow Wlad-Stiverne, great. It’s doing business with King that might be the problem though. Pulev deserves a shot too as well, so Wlad-Pulev and Stiverne-Wilder looks ok in the meantime, with the winners to meet. If Wilder is a total fraud, Stiverne can take him out…Posted May 12, 2014 3:26 pm
Stiverne would beat any heavyweight not named Wlad.While B Ware has nasty power and has fast hands and a granite chin,he isn’t mobile enough to deal with Wlads size And height,and perfect use of these attributes.Stiverne is just too small and flat footed to beat Wlad,at least that’s how appears.The only way i see Stiverne having a chance vs Wlad is to soak up what Wlad has and try and lure Wlad into expending too much energy in the later rounds,but Wlad is an intelligent fighter,he’s almost the complete package,he has very few weaknessesPosted May 12, 2014 3:19 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan to T22
Sorry, not T2, but T22.Posted May 12, 2014 3:18 pm
People, People, calm down. Wilder facing Stiverine isn’t for “THE TITLE” so don’t worry, he isn’t getting a shot at Wlad right now. Stiverine can be the testing ground to “earn a shot” at Wlad, the one and true Champion.
The last guy Wlad fought anyway had like one decent win.Posted May 12, 2014 3:17 pm
True, his team has wasted too much time. However I feel that Wilder is Wlad’s only legit challenge. Everyone just cannot contend.Posted May 12, 2014 3:17 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan to T2
Well, because Wilder is the WBC’s Mandatory Challenger.Posted May 12, 2014 3:16 pm
Screwy Louie its not that people don’t want to see Wolder fight for the title. He has to earn it. Hes only fought washed up boxers or friends like Malik Scott. That fight looked fixed. Scott gave Wilder a wink before the final punch was thrown. Wilder should have fought at least one of the following by now- Cunnigham, Thompson, Solis, Wach. Ustinov. Dimitrenko, Mansour, Jennings, Takam, Perez, Grant, Johnson, Rahman, Toney, and about a dozen others who’d either extend his experience or give him a real fight. Something doesn’t seem right about this.Posted May 12, 2014 3:11 pm
Until wilder beats someone who is breathing he doesn’t warrant a title shot. Get him in with Jennings or Thompson or pov. After a couple of fights like that we will know if he is for real or just the hype job I suspect. And in any case this world title isn’t the real deal a,d no holder can make valid claims to be world champion until they have beaten Wlad. This title has been brought and paid for by the bent electric hair do.Posted May 12, 2014 3:10 pm
The thing is, Wilder won’t beat Stiverne.Posted May 12, 2014 3:08 pm
Danni, I don’t understand why so many are scare of this matchup. It would either make Wilder a huge star or legitimize Wlad’s atg status. If Wilder beats Stiverne first that is.Posted May 12, 2014 3:01 pm
Stiverine vs. Wilder.
I like Stiverne’s style of luring the opponent into a “trap” and then countering with some really sharp punches with both hands. But he wouldn’t do well against Wladimir, no way. Wladimir would make him look really bad and ko him. He could beat many or perhaps most of the other contenders, but Wladimir is his limit. Then again, he can’t be considered a true champion unless he beats Klitschko.Posted May 12, 2014 2:53 pm
Please fight Wilder next.Posted May 12, 2014 2:52 pm
Basically, Wladimir sent him a tweet asking Stiverine to mail back his belt.Posted May 12, 2014 2:49 pm
Wlad vs Stiverne is a good fight. Was impressed with Stiverne’s durability and power. Dude’s got a rock jaw. Arreola hammered him in that third round and would’ve KOed many heavyweights then and there.Posted May 12, 2014 2:40 pm
How about Wilder vs Ustinov ?Posted May 12, 2014 2:32 pm
Brazilian why Wilder vs Stiverne? Wilder hasn’t earned his shot. His ranking is suspicious just like when Freeman Barr was rated number 1 by the WBO bank in the early 2000’s (2003 if I recall). Wilder vs Jennings would give us a clue how these guys measure up.Posted May 12, 2014 2:31 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I wish to see Wlad vs. Pulev and Stiverne vs. Wilder. The winners can face each other, and produce an Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion.Posted May 12, 2014 2:27 pm
Easy payday for Wlad. Although it would most likely go into the later rounds. I’d pick Stiverne to beat Wilder and a 50/50 fight with Jennings at this point. Actually a bestter fight for action would be Stiverne vs Povetkin as both like it up close.Posted May 12, 2014 2:26 pm
the voice of reason
This would be a very interesting fight to watch. i like stiverne. Hes clever, deceptively fast when he lets them go, and can hit like a mule. I cant see him beating wlad though. Then again, i cant see anyone beating the man. What there are though, is some mouth-watering fights out there for bermane if he wants to take them. Perez/jennings/wilder/povetkin/fury…phew – all sound good to me! Good luck to stiverne, he fought a great fightPosted May 12, 2014 2:21 pm