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Whoever

Floyd is a coward. Pac is the biggest thread to his “0” he would face, he is better than Cotto, Judah and Castillo, who all gave Floyd trouble. Floyd Jr. knows it, Floyd Sr. knows it and Roger knows it. They are either smart or cowards or both…

Posted December 7, 2013 11:21 am 


te tumbo

Btw, Detroit is a 100% American city. you can’t simply disown because it no longer the motor city of the entire world. it’s an example of national negligence and incompetence as much as it is Detroit’s.

Posted December 6, 2013 6:02 pm 


te tumbo

very, very few people know the truth about the U.S. you’d think this country was formed on nothing but wholesome dreams and divine providence. never mind that our great country leads the world with manufacture and sale of guns and the purchase and consumption of illicit drugs that violently destabilize societies across the the entire glove. of course, our great country also leads the world with “Morons, incapable of independent, critical thinking, and will do and say exactly as they are told and taught”. nonetheless, in both cases, our “patriots” rid themselves of an overbearing monarchy and S. Africa’s rid theirs of foreign apartheid . . . “all’s well that ends well”.

Posted December 6, 2013 6:00 pm 


te tumbo

“And the silence from ‘good’ people about it is deafening” and the anonymity of the loudest is cowardly. if you feel so strongly about it, grow a pair (like Mandela), declare yourself, and allow the rest of us good people decide for ourselves. or do you think that your identity alone is the strongest argument to condemn your point of view?

Posted December 6, 2013 4:11 pm 


Anonymous

you pric#s know as much about boxing as you do about heros.

Posted December 6, 2013 3:52 pm 


Tomato Can

Mandela was a great man in my book, and anything but a terrorist. But he already proved that himself. Too the fools out there disrespecting the man, a few block heads might buy into you deep seeded hate, but you will always remain in the minority, and ignored…

Posted December 6, 2013 9:45 am 


Two Piece

Ekasi( concentration camps) it’s 80% unemployment rate, infested with aids, crime and poverty and thats where over 75% of our people live. Anyway take it easy.

Posted December 6, 2013 6:03 am 


Two Piece

Last one, look at the 60% unemployment rate, and the Rand value in 20yrs it has plummeted from R1,34 to R10,50 to the $. The deputy President is one of the richest man n SA and a castodian of the colonizers.with shares on t he same mines he was fighting for labour rights & he smoked his own people, and offerd a miserly 2M to the 34 grieving families while purchasing a rhino for R20M for himself a month before.

Posted December 6, 2013 5:59 am 


Two Piece

Mbuyi – a picture is worth a thousand words. Take a look at INKANDLA( presidents R218M palace surrounded by abject poverty) and that picture describes what I’m yalking about. The struggle is to be told not sold mfetu. Anyway enough about Umzantsi.

Posted December 6, 2013 5:47 am 


Two Piece

Mbuyi you preaching to the wrong man. I know about both icons but also hold in just as high regard Steve Biko & Robert Sobukwe. South Africans are far from being free, go back to the locations where we grew up and see the poverty, pain and suffering and tell me WE free. A nations success i not judged based on the minority that have ” arrived” or ” made it” but by how much better are the down trodden and the majority are as compared to before. Forget about the ” clever Blacks” my brother and see it for what it really is. Education, Healthcare, Housing etc is still for the prevelaged in SA. The ” Clever Blacks” have simply replaced amangamla and are just as oblivious to whats really going on. Abantu bakuthi basalamba Mbuyi just because a few of us are welcomed and treated as if we equals while whispering idiots behind our backs doesn’t mean w made it. The struggle wa never against apartheid my brother but capitalism as a form of new slavery.

Posted December 6, 2013 5:41 am 


te tumbo

. . . and “SREDMOND” is obviously not SREDMOND . . .

Posted December 6, 2013 5:07 am 


te tumbo

virtually all struggles against great social injustices involve a body-count. a boxing forum is the last place i would expect people to get squeamish or indignant about that. boxing can be brutal and so can life, but occasionally someone forged in the violence becomes most dedicated to ending it, regardless of the cost, but never mind the starting point. what is the result? that is the scale upon which some great men must be measured and Mandela measures up very well. did i also mention that he was a great fight-fan? . . . Recognize.

Posted December 6, 2013 5:04 am 


Mbuyiseli

Two piece this icon will be treated like Che Guevara travel around and see Europeans with his face on their t-shirts and they don’t even know what Che stood for. Che was called a terrorist, Mandela was also called a terrorist. Now why would a medical doctor and lawyer by the respective professions turn to terrorism? Educate and acquire knowledge that’s all I will say regarding these 2 men.

Posted December 6, 2013 5:00 am 


Two Piece

Now we grieve tomorrow we back on the struggle as ” to live is to suffer, to survive is to find the meaning in the suffering”

Posted December 6, 2013 4:38 am 


Two Piece

Great pity that the great mans work has been left to a bunch hyenas to ruin. South Africa is not the rainbow nation that it’s made out to be but we are a work in progress, Madiba did his best the rest depends on the rest of us to pull through and not be swayed by Capitalism, westernization, greed and corruption. Our people need to be educated not only in westetn culture but our own roots so we can combine it and free our minds and thus our selves.

Posted December 6, 2013 4:34 am 


Two Piece

Easy Mbuyi, I doubt SRed posted that crap, you know the cowards who are on this thread. Hayi kabi mfethu.

Posted December 6, 2013 4:27 am 


Mbuyiseli

These 2 know nothing about South African history. It’s due to these types of embaciles that racists like Julius Malema garner so much black support in South Africa. Whites are still privileged in South Africa, trust me. Whites won’t even acknowledge that they benefitted from apartheid. You better pray that the sins committed by the white forefathers are not paid by their generation to come. Coz it won’t be pretty that’s one thing for sure.

Posted December 6, 2013 4:22 am 


Mbuyiseli

Sredmond and Anonymous you know squat about Mandela you SOB’s. Nelson Rholihlahla Mandela saved millions of whites after a white racist killed Chris Hani. Mandela prevented a civil war that was bound to happen. Even some of black in South Africa still take him as a sell-out due to his forgiving attitude towards white South Africans. Please don’t forget to mention the white government that killed and tortured scores of indigenous black South African. Educate yourself before you spout rubbish about such a legend.

Posted December 6, 2013 4:12 am 


Two Piece

One moment his a terrorist the next a great statesman, can never please everyone, fact of life. Muslims bomb America are terrorists however America bombing Muslims are heroes & peacekeepers, either ways both are murderers.

Posted December 6, 2013 4:02 am 


Two Piece

Best you remain anonymous dude.

Posted December 6, 2013 3:57 am 


TARK

There are a bunch of racists who populate this forum.. It gets a little old from both sides. Nelson Mandela was one of the greatest political heroes of the last Century.

Mandela was a towering example for our President from the time he was in Harvard — and so many other accomplished people the world over. Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman, and Matt Damon collaborated on the movie “Invictus” — about how Mandela inspired the Springboks, South Africa’s struggling rugby team, to a world championship.

Mandela speaking to the Springboks..

“We have to win men—and we’re going to win. Not once. Not twice. Not 3 times. We’re going to win and keep winning. We’re going to win it all. I feel it in my bones. I see it in your faces. The Springboks are as good as World Champions today where we stand. Nobody can beat us because we hold our destiny in our hearts—and the hearts of our nation beat as one. Nothing lives for us except victory, and you are our team and the inspiration of our whole nation. We’re counting on you to win the world championship and lift our spirits to the skies.”

I mean… Mandela didn’t want to put any pressure on them or anything.

Posted December 6, 2013 2:55 am 


te tumbo

. . . and a fellow fight-fan . . . let the 10-count begin . . .

Posted December 6, 2013 2:19 am 


te tumbo

“SREDMOND”, cold thing to say about a dead Man . . . and a great one.

Posted December 6, 2013 2:10 am 


The Prince

Top Rank already names their next fight date huh? Whose ducking who?

Posted December 6, 2013 2:08 am 


te tumbo

i find it encouraging that Tark is so high on Pacquiao* . . . (once again).

Posted December 6, 2013 1:56 am 


Two Piece

IRS is also after poor Manny.

Posted December 6, 2013 1:44 am 


Two Piece

HecDog wants us to forget the PPV numbers now. LMFAO! Mayweather 2,4M PPV, Pacman ” AROUND” 500K” = 300K! LMFAO. Hell the Bob & Fat Dan Rafael can’t even give us the exact numbers. what happened to the ” international star”.

Posted December 6, 2013 1:36 am 


KC

Step Right Up…Step Right Up… Smoke Screen and Mirrors!! Git ur self a bottle of Fraud BS…. Plenty on hand…. Spend, Spend and Spend. Wow! U guys will buy anything…

Posted December 5, 2013 9:47 pm 


Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

When will floyd fight without Xylocaine?

Never

Posted December 5, 2013 7:35 pm 


Havoc

If Floyd agree to fight Pacman, it will be the biggest payday for Floyd.

Posted December 5, 2013 6:48 pm 


Ray Ray

Floyd should fight Clottey, hes awesome.

Posted December 5, 2013 6:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Hey guys, lets take a moment to honor the memory of Nelson Mandela, who was a former boxer himself……….hello, hey guys ?

Posted December 5, 2013 6:22 pm 


Ray Ray

Floyd will b bending Bob over and reaming him as much as possible….think of the cash Floyd hasntmade from not fighting toprank guys like Manny/Bradley? They would b his 2 biggest pay days…and he will also b getting some extra coin 4 his buddy Gamboa 4 the sharfting he got and cash he missed out on thru toprank.

Posted December 5, 2013 6:21 pm 


B Red

Pac will Probably rematch Bradley. Freddie trains Ruslan, so I dont think the fight will happen, unless Freddie drops Ruslan as his fighter. Bob’s stable of fighters are minuscle at WW unless he cuts deals with other promoters. Bob might even try to match up Alvarez with Pac

Posted December 5, 2013 6:18 pm 


Ray Ray

Hec dog- zero chance of 50/50 happening. And it shouldnt….and no Floyd wont 4get the numbers, he has Arum in a corner and will milk every bit of coin he can from him aswell as having his own way in every aspect of the fight….kind of ironic really? This was Arum having all the sway in the past.

Posted December 5, 2013 6:14 pm 


Havoc

A lot of people think Pac can beat Floyd whether PAC will lose or get KO again and again. Remember style makes fight. Not unless Floyd sees Pacman is done like a shot fighter then I agree Floyd will beat him.

Posted December 5, 2013 6:10 pm 


Ray Ray

Ruslins way 2 dangerous…..another loss and the 2% chance of a Mayweather fight happening is def off….theres no need 4 another fight with JMM that saga has run its course….a rematch with Bradley def needs 2 b made….id love 2 watch both Floyd and Manny bash desert storm 2 set up the mega fight between Manny and Floyd.

Posted December 5, 2013 6:10 pm 


Havoc

B Red – it don’t matter for Pacman if he lose or win his next fight. If Floyd fought Guerrero he should have no problem fighting 8 th time world Champ.

Posted December 5, 2013 6:06 pm 


B Red

@ Havoc, The fight with Manny and Floyd would do at least 2.5 million buys if Pac can beat his next opponnent and look impressive, ya dig

Posted December 5, 2013 5:59 pm 


Hec Dog

It’s not difficult to make figure this out. Forget all the numbers and and talk about PPV sales, fans, impact on economy and so on. Both Floyd and Manny are the biggest draws in boxing. There’s plenty of money for everyone involved. 50%/50% needs to be agreed to. Manny has more fans regardless of the PPV numbers. They don’t account for every Manny fan world wide, which is huge, but regardless, Floyd does not deserve a penny more. Floyd is an egotistical, greedy that cares only about his money. He loves it, craves it and will probably ak for his picture and name to be printed on a dollar bill. Sad because one day, his money won’t be able to help him. Make the fight

Posted December 5, 2013 5:57 pm 


Havoc

PAC credit Bob to all his fortune and fame. PAC is not about to leave a person who do nothing wrong and help him get to where he is right now. I think Floyd is belittling Pacman for he is Asian. No respect because Floyd thinks he is the best fighter Arum had and when he left he will be miss or top rank will go down.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:55 pm 


B Red

@ Adrian I agree , its all about the money and the splits

Posted December 5, 2013 5:54 pm 


Adrian

Hahahahaha … Still talking about the finances ???

All along I thought the fight didn’t happen because of the testing and now I see it was all about the money…. Hmmmm…

Posted December 5, 2013 5:53 pm 


B Red

Night Stalker has the beat

Posted December 5, 2013 5:51 pm 


Havoc

Oh yeah Bob does. He make sure Manny can get paid from everything he does. Reason why Manny made it big is because of Bob.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:48 pm 


Night Stalker

Havoc, its the biggest fight to be made, but Manny does not call the shots, Bob does

Posted December 5, 2013 5:45 pm 


REM

Never have I seen a fighter and his fanbase so scared of another fighter unpresidented. Manny “The G.O.A.T” Pacquiao is his name.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:39 pm 


Havoc

B Red – Pac to small don’t matter. Make the fight happen and let see who really is the best. Imagine FLoyd vs. Manny…think about what it will do to boxing.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:37 pm 


REM

I still haven’t heard anyone say if they were Pac they’d let Floyd make well over 100mil off their backs that tells me all I need to know.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:32 pm 


B Red

Havoc, Pac is too small to beat Floyd, and the precise punching that Floyd would catch Pac with, it could be a Knockout. I think your banking on the fact that you think that Floyd has a weak chin, and will get caught with something. Pac has been knocked out 3 times in his career, and two of them were devastaing. He even admiited he was hurt in the Rios fight.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:32 pm 


Havoc

Bred- you just described the blue print that can beat Floyd.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:16 pm 


B Red

Tark, what is wrong with you, Bob is not going to make the fight, he can match up Napiou with Bradley and do a million buys.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:11 pm 


B Red

Havoc, at this Point Floyd is the better fighter imo, and always was. floyd is actually fighting better now that he has his father in his corner, because the emphasis is on defence. The Cotto fight was a wake up call. Manny now knows he cant get reckless or he will take a nap again. Rios is a human punching bag, but Pac was smart enough not to get to reckless in the fight and boxed beautifully, punching in combos angles and speed. He was also retreating when he felt he was in danger, there is nothing wrong with that, ya dig

Posted December 5, 2013 5:02 pm 


TARK

Remember, boxers who won’t trouble somebody else will trouble Floyd.

Judah was taken out quickly by Tszyu, but busted Floyd in the mouth for 3 rounds… He also floored Floyd… Judah has a weak chin but Floyd couldn’t knock him down.. Other people flattened Zab.. Judah also intimidated Floyd a little by punching him full force in the balls—and then smashing Floyd behind his head in the brain stem.

Now, Pacquiao is a trickier southpaw than Judah… He’s faster… He’s stronger… He’s smarter… He’s more durable… His conditioning and preparation are much more thorough… He has a better temperament… He’s a better puncher.

It just so happens that the last 2 southpaws Floyd faced are schlock fighters… whereas Pacquiao is an ATG fighter.

Now don’t say I’m picking Pacquiao to win… But it’s a damned tough fight.

Posted December 5, 2013 5:00 pm 


PEEJ

Rem once again you can’t do match. Floyd has been apart of less PPVs that Pac but has sold more. It isn’t algebra it is simple add and subtraction. Floyd sells more plain and simple. You have obviously seen the numbers because you keep posting them.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:49 pm 


REM

BRed we all wish to be such a slave.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:49 pm 


SREDMOND

Hey guys, sorry. I had to take a breather. I’ve had a nasty case of jock itch lately. I think I got it from one of Lewis’s old sweaty jock straps that I use to sniff and wear.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:48 pm 


Havoc

Sredmond- I’m not siding with anybody. All I want is to have them fight and truly find out who is better in the sport. Not PPV or the zero loss or the KO. Settle this in the ring.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:48 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, you can tell us about Santa, the Easter Bunny and anything else you want the FACT IS that if a SMART business person wanted to put his money on ONE of these fighters to outsell the other on an event by event basis there is NO debate it would be Mayweather…. That is why Showtime gave him the most lucrative contract in sports history and the highest guarantees EVER seen in the sport….Businessmen don’t care about intangibles like good character, a nice smile and banging the wife missionary only,…. They want ROI (Return on Investment) Mayweather almost did MORE PPV business in his last fight than Manny did in his LAST 3 only a FOOL would bet on Pacquiao to outsell Floyd event by event… Mayweather simply has the HIGHER scoring average…

Posted December 5, 2013 4:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Havoc, that’s a SLAM Dunk for the Unbeaten PPV KIng Floyd Mayweather Jr… Problem is that Manny does NOT knock people out anymore and he cannot sell being invincible because we just saw him on life support… Mayweather has a streak in play that ranks with the GREAT winning streaks in sports history… People have a carrot to chase and yes that MIGHTY 0 matters….Pacquiao is an awesome all action fighter and he has given some of the most exciting bouts of the modern era but he has been laid LOW and the feeling is that he can happen again… His bouts go 12 so the perception is his “Wow Factor” has dropped as reflected in this RANCID PPV outing that shocked me as to how poor it was… I thought he would at least do 800k or so…

Posted December 5, 2013 4:40 pm 


REM

Ok since Floyd sells more per we will harp on ppvs per and ignore what Pac brings. Nevermind that on 4/12 Pac will have generated more revenue than any active boxer including Floyd. Nevermind that Pac is far more popular and is the reason the fight is projected to due 300mil in revenue smh.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:40 pm 


B Red

Sredmond, you know these guys are idiots that you are debating with. They dont understand that Napman is a slave to Bob Arum, thats why the Floyd fight is not going to happen. Bob will probably make the rematch with Bradley. That can probably do a Million buys, ya dig

Posted December 5, 2013 4:39 pm 


REM

This is insane completely void of reason and logic. I’ve come to the conclusion that Floyd fans don’t want the fight yall want Floyd to become a billionaire. This just isn’t about boxing smh.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Peej, you spotted REM’s WEAK ploy as if Richard Schaefer (A Banker) does NOT know that Mayweather sells FAR more per event than Manny and the GAP has widened massively based on this PPV debacle in Macau… Marquez and Bradley did something like 350k and Manny Pacquiao is not doing 500k or under? Bradley and Marquez will NEVER be huge A side seller and Pac has just had and event sell in their range… Mayweathers 2.2 million against Canelo, 1.5 against Cotto 1.4 against Mosley and 2.5 against Oscar have set a bar that Manny CANNOT eclipse on a fight by fight basis… Don’t get me wrong if I have to have a guy AFTER Floyd do a PPV it would be Manny Pacquiao but the reality is that Pac Mans KO loss, and terrible promotion of this Rios bout have dimmed his star at this time… FACTS

Posted December 5, 2013 4:36 pm 


Havoc

If they don’t fight. Then they should fight at the same date. Let see who generates more PPV #. Lol!

Posted December 5, 2013 4:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Havoc, you are thinking from an emotional place the fact is this fight has PROBLEM written all over it and if you think $$$$$$$ will not be part of the discussion you are being painfully naïve… Of course this all sounds like MEGA bucks to a bunch of internet posters who have more ego than money but these guys have other motivators and things in play… The HBO vs Showtime scenario and the GBP/Mayweather vs Top Rank/Bob Arum scenario are BOTH Major hurdles to a fight happening… We can pretend this is a Michael Jordan campaign and say “just do it” but even when Floyd was not routinely banking 40 mill plus this fight was a headache for EVERYONE to make now its simply looking like a bigger disaster… Mayweather is gonna wanna stick it to Top Rank something awful and when their best fighter is NOW not producing numbers it seems that his vengeance will be letting Manny try to interest the public in rematches (Bradley is not gonna do that well we know this) AGAIN in a perfect world it would have already happened but it didn’t for MANY reasons… Its getting to the point where its time to move on AGAIN we all know they are NOT fighting in the first part of 2014, each has a different date…

Posted December 5, 2013 4:29 pm 


Titopa

Floyd does 2 million PPV buys and Manny does 500K….I wonder who generates more? Hmmm.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:24 pm 


Havoc

So much money and fans argue who gets the bigger cut. Money or PPV buys should be the least problem these to fighter argue about. It will be a lot of money. Gauranteed

Posted December 5, 2013 4:15 pm 


Havoc

If they fight don’t talk about how they split it by % rather spilt it by money. I think this fight can generate from 100 millions up. Let say Floyd gets 70 millions top and Pac 40 millions. Then there should be no problem making the fight. It don’t matter who is more bankable or not. Just them two fighting will be a record breaking PPV buys.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:09 pm 


PEEJ

Once again you are not doing the match. Pac has been in more PPVs that Floyd has but yet Floyd has sold more. Even if they are equal in PPV sales Floyd still sells more per PPV event and that is why he will be getting the much bigger piece of the pie

Posted December 5, 2013 3:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao is NEVER PASSING Floyd as far as PPV buys per bout… Mayweather had been in MUCH bigger events Cotto, Mosley, Canelo, Oscar.. Pac having more bouts over the span is NOT fooling any smart businessma.. If you look at PER bout PPV and revenue Floyd TROUNCES Manny who had 2 of his last 3 contest do UNDER 1 million… Mayweather has the HIGHER scoring average… EASY

Posted December 5, 2013 3:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah REM, you will see how relevant PPV buys are if they ever REALLY negotiate… Pacman had already discussed 60/40 Mayweathers side and this is before he got knocked out and his PPV’s started BOMBING like this… Again both have made a ton, but if you think May would not take down WAYYYYY more trap, then you’re fooling yourself… Pacquaio has a diminished ability to earn whereas Floyd’s getting 32 mill as long as he’s winning for 4 fights… PAC made 18 mill against Rios which is about 45% less than FMJ’s min guarantee of 32 mill…Mayweather has all the cards, I would want Manny to get a solid payday but business is business these 2 fighters are not equally bankable…

Posted December 5, 2013 3:18 pm 


REM

Ok Pacs behind 275k so on 4/12 when Pac passes Floyd in revenue generated I will campaign for an 80/20 split in Pacs favor smh this is stupid.

Posted December 5, 2013 3:11 pm 


REM

Hec Dog lol their full of crap they say Pac should take x amount but won’t dare say if I were Pac I’d take x amount because if they did they’d sound like complete idiots.

Posted December 5, 2013 3:06 pm 


PEEJ

If he can’t accept what the terms are then there is no fight. Floyd brings in most of the money, if he is bringing in most of the money then he is taking a bigger piece of the money. So basically you are saying the 3rd string quarterback should be making as much as the 1st string franchise quarterback is basically what you are saying. And you know that is not gonna happen.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:58 pm 


PEEJ

See all this Pac has generated, he does well over seas but yet nobody can show numbers to prove this. Floyd has numbers to back what he has done up. Not only is he the highest paid athlete in sports but he also still has his money. Pac is not even close to being the highest paid athlete, at the current moment is broke. Accounts frozen in his home country, here in the states he has had to sell his home and ferrari. The bank has put a lien on his accounts for 18.5 mil. So sorry but saying he has brought in more sounds ridiculous.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:54 pm 


Hec Dog

REM, I ask myself the same question. What are they thinking or smoking?

Posted December 5, 2013 2:44 pm 


REM

Floyd fans think Floyd should make 150 mil and Pac 50 mil what are y’all smoking crack gtfoh.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:39 pm 


Hec Dog

Manny Pacquiao is the best draw in boxing bar none. The PPV numbers don’t tell the real numbers. They don’t account for all the Manny fans that don’t watch the fight. Not everyone can afford PPV prices. Manny is the biggest draw world wide without question. Make the fight, and Manny should never take anything less than 50%.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:33 pm 


REM

What the fighters take home is irrelavent it is about what their fights generate and Pac has generated as much as Floyd in his career. Even split or no fight and the blame rest at Floyds feet because of what Pac has generated. Floyd fans are posturing to defend chicken little when the fight doesn’t happen because Floyd has purposely priced hinself out.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:32 pm 


Havoc

Macau sucks! Chinese don’t want to spend thier money for the Americans and Filipinos they like to make money out of them. Vegas is great. PPV buys stimulates the USA and Philippine economy.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:27 pm 


REM

Like Pac said when Floyd offered 40 mil flat “what am I crazy” lmao get real.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:24 pm 


REM

I’m hearing what Pac should take I’m not hearing if I were Pac I’d take nice way to weasel out of answering the question lol. Dudes want Floyd to make over 100mil on Pacs back but can’t bring themselves to say I’d allow him to make it on my back case closed.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Hey guys, sorry I had to take a breather. I’ve had a nasty case of jock itch lately. I think I got it from one of Lewis’s old sweaty jock straps that I use to sniff and wear.

Posted December 5, 2013 1:48 pm 


PEEJ

And Espinoza said we will definitely exceed 1 million buys just not sure by how much.

Posted December 5, 2013 1:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao would unquestionably have to take a GREATLY reduced cut, and arguments by REM or Hidalgo are simply illogical and pointless… Manny has NEVER made 40 mill for a bout and he just made 18 mill for Rios… His last PPV generated around 30 mill in revenue according to his OWN promoter in ESPN….
Mayweather made 41.5 mill without his cut as promoter and PPV upside… Manny and TR would be in a take it or leave it situation with Floyd, frankly I don’t think this contests happening in 2014 anymore there is just WAYYYY too much hate between these promotional companies and the desire for FMJ and GBP to squeeze PAC Man after his tax issues and SERIOUS PPV flop is just to Great… In 2015, I would watch but no longer care..

Posted December 5, 2013 1:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, Floyds marketability vs Mannys is relevant because it’s a negotiating point that would come up and possibly impede the bout being made.. We all know I see Pacquaio as an EASY night for Mayweather despite my deep respect to Pac Mans own Greatness….Truth is these PPV numbers along with Bob Arums “Fat Cat” arrogant assertions that’s someone should call his B SIDE fighter strike me as not a real attempt to make the bout.. Again we know FMJ and Manny have seperate dates set already for next year and Arum has already said his next opponent will be Bradley, Marquez or Provodnikov so the truth is that Arum is simply using Floyd’s name to hype PAC Mans next bout… That’s what I see playa!! Like it or NOT!

Posted December 5, 2013 12:59 pm 


PEEJ

Showtime VP said it did a mil and possibly more. That is what he had said. I will go with what he said as apposed to what the Top Rank paid Rafael said

Posted December 5, 2013 12:53 pm 


PEEJ

Then he don’t want the fight. Fact is he needs to take a major cut. He is not the seller he once was and that is a major factor in getting your money unless you are with Haymon. His PPV sells are crap, Floyd sells in the mil which means he is bringing in the money. You are not gonna get a big slice if you are not selling and Pac does not sell and really hasn’t been since the Mosley fight.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:52 pm 


REM

I’ve noticed that no one here would dare say as Pac they would take a small cut nice to know no one here is that damn stupid you’re all just completely full of crap lol.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:48 pm 


REM

Peej he said he’s confident it did a mil big difference.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:09 pm 


REM

Hidalgo I completely agree I just want the damn fight. When you have these Floyd fans backing him when he offers Pac a 40mil flat fee or a small split for a huge fight revenue wise it makes the fight impossible to put together. Seems like their posturing to defend Floyd when he demands a huge portion of the revenue and the fight never materializes because of it. They leapfrog each other career ppv buys generated Pac was ahead before the Canelo fight he’ll be ahead again after 4/12 they need to split evenly and fight already Pac has produced to much revenue in boxing and brings to much to the table for their fight to take peanuts and let Floyd have all the revenue. Floyd fans demand Pac take a small cut as if they get a portion of the revenue smh. They do take to much pride in Floyds superiority revenue wise when the should be pushing him to give a fair split and make the damb fight.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:07 pm 


PEEJ

Showtime VP already came out and said it did a mil. You are reading what Rafael said which means squat. I will go with what he says.

Posted December 5, 2013 11:53 am 


REM

Floyd v Guerrero did 875k as reported by espn with no challenge from Showtime or GB and Pac v Bradley did 900k officially confirmed by TR smh.

Posted December 5, 2013 11:49 am 


PEEJ

Rem once again you can’t do the match. Fact is Floyd sold more PPVs that Pac in less time. Pac has been apart of more PPVs but yet Floyd has sold more. I bet if you add up the Rios and Bradley PPVs it probably wouldn’t equal the amount Floyd vs Guerrero did. So that is saying there that Pac does not deserve a very big piece of the pie

Posted December 5, 2013 11:42 am 


REM

Wow we’re fudging #s now huh no need Floyd has a slight lead right now. The official #s for Pac v Bradley were 900k and the official #s for Floyd v Guerrero were never released the #s espn reported were never officially challenged.

Posted December 5, 2013 11:42 am 


PEEJ

So the US IRS has an issue with Pac paying his taxes also. This is not really looking good for Pac.

Posted December 5, 2013 11:36 am 


Hidalgo

The frickin’ argument about PPVs and purses is as tired as the stale argument about why Manny didn’t do random testing years ago. IT’S OLD NEWS! LET THE DEAD HORSE BE! GET A LIFE! TALK ABOUT SOMETHING NEW FOR A WHILE!

Posted December 5, 2013 11:34 am 


Hidalgo

To SRedmond and anyone else who keeps going on about how much Mayweather makes or sales compared to how much Pacquiao makes or sales:

SO WHAT!!

Does it bolster your confidences to point out, brag, or argue about who has sold the most PPV’s or made the most money? Why is this important to you? You getting kickbacks for supporting or bragging on one or the other?

The only two people who need to be concerned about these numbers are the principles: Mayweather and Pacquiao. The rest of you shut up and quit uselessly going on about the two boxers you hate/love most.

Posted December 5, 2013 11:33 am 


REM

Still no answer ha ha case closed.

Posted December 5, 2013 11:24 am 


SREDMOND

Discussing things with REM is pointless he is unwilling to entertain ANY facts that don’t position Pacquiao as more bankable than Floyd… But for mature observers we had a MONSTER, RECORD BREAKING PPV from Mayweather that did 2.2 mill, Showtime claims Guerrero did 1mill, and Cotto did 1.5 mill…..That’s 4.7 mill give or take in the past 3 bouts… Manny did 500k against Rios, 1.15 against Marquez and about 750-800k
Against Bradley (call it 800) that’s around 2.4 to 2.5 million buys…. Meaning Floyd almost did MORE business with ONE contest against Canelo than Manny did in his last 3 fights…
Pacquiao knows he’s the B side of the promotion and unless he faces Marquez or Floyd he cannot crack 1 million buys with the present TR stable… 500k or under? I am surprised it’s that bad I guess having a “0” and winning is more important than some believe..

Posted December 5, 2013 11:22 am 


SREDMOND

SREDMOND below

Posted December 5, 2013 11:10 am 


Anonymous

We deal in US dollars if the Macau experiment had been a success Arum would be booking th Venetian again, instead he is promptly being Manny back now… This is Pacs second sub 1mill PPV outta 3 and this one is literally woeful I mean “maybe 500k” Arum did NOT make mention of foreign PPV receipts because that’s negligible…FACE FACTS the US is the only country supporting $60 PPV’s that’s why the Klits don’t make PPV money in Germany and when Sky Sports tried it the dollar amount was like $18-20 bucks and sales were not impressive… The proof positive is Manny booking the MGM before these paltry numbers even came out, it might not even prove to be in his interest facing Floyd, who will look at those numbers and CAP him at $20 mill or so this really sheds light on how laughable Bob Arums “call me position is”
He should be sending “edible arrangements” and a hooker to Mayweathers Mansion begging to do a deal or better step away from TR…

Posted December 5, 2013 11:09 am 


REM

Yank being informed now answer the question as Pac knowing you have matched Floyd in ppvs and the fight will be huge because your involved vwhat split do you accept everyone makes comments no one answers the question in fear of sounding like a moron with no business sense.

Posted December 5, 2013 10:23 am 


REM

Yank you sound stupid Pac will pass Floyd in ppvs on 4/12 fact genius.

Posted December 5, 2013 10:15 am 


Proud Yank

Lol rem is a pacturd groupie.

Posted December 5, 2013 9:47 am 


REM

Pac fights 4/12 Floyd fights 5/3 4/12 Pac will pass Floyd in ppvs wtf are y’all talking about smh rhetoric in its purest form.

Posted December 5, 2013 9:04 am 


REM

Fact is only a moron would accept less than a even split with the #s the fight will do that’s reality.

Posted December 5, 2013 8:42 am 


BOOM

Pac did only 500K PVV in USA market, but he is fight outside USA, so can FMJ do better PVV fighting outside Las Vegas or outside USA… no 1f.cking know the answer??? Pac did it we know the answer… :)

Posted December 5, 2013 8:38 am 


REM

Two piece those buys are only US buys of course smashed globally in broadcasting revenue like always.

Posted December 5, 2013 8:28 am 


REM

Answer the question if any of you are in Pacs shoes what split do you accept. I beg of one of you to say less than 40 percent back up your bs.

Posted December 5, 2013 8:23 am 


Two Piece

500k, Bob is telling lies as usual. What happened to the global icon?

Posted December 5, 2013 6:45 am 


SREDMOND

REM, I know that FACTS mean little to you but Bob Arum (who is not known for honesty) said that Manny vs Rios did 500k PPV or under on HBO… That’s a SERIOUS FLOP trying to sell Manny as close to as big as Floyd is just not possible, PAC did LESS than 1/4 of What FMJ did against Canelo and he did LESS than 1/2 of what his last bout with Marquez did, that horrid undercard and that loss took a toll on his $$$$$… The science experiment in Macau is officially a BUST hence PAC coming back to the MGM…. Top Ranks just using Floyd’s name, they have no clout in this convo 500k or under??

Posted December 5, 2013 6:03 am 


SREDMOND

Damn, Arum said that Pacquaio did 500k or under???(PPV) I did not think the event would tank like that… PAC Man would have to leave TR in order to get a Mayweather bout, those #’s are painfully low..

Posted December 5, 2013 5:58 am 


Zuks

April 2014 is the famous return date….yeap they are willing to negotiate for the Mayweather showdown….REALLY?

GET OUT OF HERE

HOLLA ROMBUYENYO…SHARP KUNJANI?

BOLA PUNCH WILL DO!

Posted December 5, 2013 4:54 am 


Mbuyiseli

I don’t know why you even entertain this group of clowns and morons hecdog, old coot, rem, hildago they live in their own dream land. It’s never about facts to them, Manny and Arum are their idols they can do no wrong. Arum said they should be contacted, when TR already have said Manny has an April date. How stupid do you have to be, not to realise that it was declared that Floyd has a date in May. Top Rank has to make most of the concessions. They know it we all know it, except the pacretards whom I already mentioned above. Manny brings nothing to the table, nada zilch. Try and explain that to the minions with zero semblance of intellect.

Posted December 5, 2013 4:35 am 


Ron the Racist

Packy takes Floydy to the cleaners. That is why Floyd does no dry cleaning, ever!!

Posted December 5, 2013 3:27 am 


Urone2

Rem,
If your last pvp did 2.4mm buys and your opponentt to did .5mm his last fight and in his last big fight(Marque) did 1.4mm buys. You were paid 80mm and your opponent over 2 fight 50mm. Taking that into consideration what would be your opponents cut. Looks to me he’s only worth 33%..

Posted December 5, 2013 3:23 am 


Sexual Chocolates

All paydays are easy for Floyd old cooty , but you understand this don’t you ?

Posted December 5, 2013 3:14 am 


Old Coot

If Pac is finished… It should be an easy payday for Floyd… So tell him to shut up and step up! We all know the deal though! LOL!!!

Posted December 5, 2013 2:57 am 


Two Piece

Taxman is taking all his loot, his gonna end up like SRR & The Brown Bomber, broke.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:49 am 


Two Piece

Old Coot – Even the Pinoys are not buying these Top Stink garbage Bob is selling you.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:47 am 


Two Piece

300k PPV vs Rios in China, so much for the global star, Pffft

Posted December 5, 2013 2:45 am 


Sexual Chocolates

old cooty darling everybody knows Pacinoman is finished

Posted December 5, 2013 2:39 am 


Old Coot

B-Red… Yet you think Floyd would beat Pacman… Talk about dull wit!

Posted December 5, 2013 2:17 am 


Old Coot

ESB suddenly won’t let me post more than one sentence… AGAIN!!

Posted December 5, 2013 2:15 am 


B Red

Old Coot, your not the sharpest knife in the drawer or the fastest horse in the race

Posted December 5, 2013 2:14 am 


Old Coot

Floyd’s knows he such a snore-fest of a wannabe fighter, that were it not for his cherry-picked, overrated zero, the only clowns dumb enough to buy his fights, would be-

Posted December 5, 2013 2:06 am 


REM

Two piece there’s no reason to believe that when Floyd passed up on 100mil. No way he hates Arum that much smh. History teaches us Floyd will come up with another excuse lol.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:05 am 


REM

Tark if your Pac what do you accept and keep in mind the fight could do as much as 300mil only because your involved. Changes your opinion doesn’t it.

Posted December 5, 2013 2:02 am 


Old Coot

Tark… $200M is what Floyd REALLY needs, because after his Pacman stompin, Floyd’s PPV reign is T-H-U!!! Not to mention he’ll need about a $150 Million to fix his mug!!

Posted December 5, 2013 1:55 am 


TARK

When he can make 100 million by kicking Pac’s ass??? Not on your life.

Posted December 5, 2013 1:48 am 


Old Coot

Yeah… Floyd Wants Pac ah-ight… To retire!… SOON!!!!!

Posted December 5, 2013 1:47 am 


Two Piece

REM – High time Manny dumps Top Rank and be his own BOSS. Fight will be made within 24hrs and this end this war of words.

Posted December 5, 2013 1:41 am 


Two Piece

Mayweather just did 2,4M and took home close to $80M.

Posted December 5, 2013 1:39 am 


Two Piece

Pac is international yet his just done crap 300k PPV.

Posted December 5, 2013 1:37 am 


TARK

REM.., The general consensus is Mayweather is the biggest draw in Boxing, and the best fighter on the planet.. I’m not Floyd’s biggest fan.. But there are facts — and there is BS… These are facts.

Any thoughts that Pac has the advantage in these negotiations is pure BS.

Posted December 5, 2013 1:03 am 


REM

Urone the general consensus is Pac is the more popular fight I joke around when I say this but its true Floyd is local Pac is international.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:55 am 


TARK

I thnk Top Rank is frantically doctoring documents so the principles can avoid jail in the Pacquiao tax mess… Pacquiao made 100’s of millions of dollars … Where’s the money MFers???

The reason he owes so much in the Phillipines, is because he has dozens of businesses there.. If those businesses show a profit they have to pay taxes — so I guess they must have, at least on the books … Tax people are notoriously efficient at getting people to pay up … or face jail or added fines.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:54 am 


Urone2

Rem,
You are a reallylost soul, to think that Manny is on the same pvp level is insane. Manny has 1 fight that has done pvp numbers in the Mayweather range, ever other fight Manny has been in has been below Mayweather’s top 6 i think it was. Manny and Arum will have to come begging for a share of Mayweather’s pie. The truth is Manny doesn’t bring the fans that Mayweather does, just check the number and Manny loses there like he will loses their when its made.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:49 am 


REM

Seen my dude Pac has another endorsement deal with pistachio lol. Thats 4 endorsement deals what can anyone say he’s the face of boxing.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:41 am 


Two Piece

A few years back Pac hired a company yo look into his business interests, Top Rank refused to hand over documents and Pacman dumped the company but today his accounts are frozen and he owes the taxman.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:35 am 


Two Piece

Cotto was the last of the mohicans, Pacman is a lame idiot who Bob is gonna leave broke and sick. Let the stupid ass pactards get ripped off again by Top Stink/HBO while Showtime & GBP are giving fans solid cards on PPV.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:33 am 


Two Piece

Anyone who believes anything coming out of Arums mouth is an idiot. Fight did 300k PPVs.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:28 am 


B Red

Tark your a fool if you think Floyd is going to make the fight in China. Napmans stock is going down. Bob knows this and will probably rematch him with Bradley or have him fight the Ruslan. He better be real careful with Ruslan

Posted December 5, 2013 12:10 am 


B Red

Titopa, Yep , Arum doesnt care about Manny losing, he cares about his wallet double and triple dippin as the promoter ,and and the placement fee for making the fight.

Posted December 5, 2013 12:06 am 


TARK

Floyd wants Pac… That’s the bottom line.

He can’t say he wants Pac… He can’t say he can’t make better and richer fights… He can’t say this is super important for his career… But Floyd is an intelligent man… He’s a natural businessman.

He knows he needs this fight and Pacquiao needs this fight… Probably the only reason these 2 guys are still fighting is they haven’t fought each other yet. They’d be retired by now… But they both know this fight has to happen … or should happen.

That’s the reality of it. Floyd is not scared to lose a boxing match. He knows he could possibly lose to any top fighter. You can’t be certain what some stupid, incompetent judge who hates Mayweather might do. You roll with whatever happens … But to say Floyd isn’t interested in a Pacquiao fight is like saying he’s not interested in pretty girls, fast cars, great movies, great food, great Vegas shows, or beautiful houses, furniture, and clothes.

Floyd wants the fight and was very upset when Pacquiao got KO’d… He was so concerned that Pacquiao might retire that he put media messages saying, “This can happen to anybody. I’m sure Pacquiao will come back and win great fights, and get his career back on track. He will need some tune-up fights and he’ll be right back in business. Marquez is an ATG fighter so this happens. It could happen to anybody in the sport of Boxing.”

If May-Pac never comes off it will not be Floyd’s fault… But he’s not going panting after it like some upstart fighter… He has to be cool and let the fight come to him … He’ll say something like, “I give the fans what they want… Canelo is the fight they wanted… Now Pacquiao is the fight they most want to see… We need to smooth out all the details and iron it out — because this fight is a rightful part of fistic history. It would be tragic if Bob Arum or anybody else threw up continuing roadblocks to making it happen. I’m ready to sit down and talk … and see just how serious the Pacquiao camp is about making the fight … because we’ve been here before … and I hate to slam everybody’s hopes because of one unreasonable person.”

Posted December 5, 2013 12:05 am 


SUP YALL

Pacquioa FREE AGENT!!!!!!!!!! Thats the only way to make the fight happen.

Posted December 4, 2013 11:33 pm 


Old Coot

Well, there’s one bottom line we already know… That FLOYD or Voyd… (Take your pick) sure as Hell won’t step up!! Because As I said recently… Ole Voyd would sooner drag his nutsack though broken razor blades, dunk em in jet fuel, then run through Hell buck ass naked, than to fight Manny!

Posted December 4, 2013 11:31 pm 


REM

Ha ha Floyd gets whatever Pac says he gets Pacs the A side of their fight people will tune in to see Pac beat Floyd.

Posted December 4, 2013 11:09 pm 


PEEJ

Which once again shows why Floyd deserves a much bigger piece of the pie than Pac

Posted December 4, 2013 11:03 pm 


PEEJ

Arum said it did between 490 and 510. Which basically means under 500

Posted December 4, 2013 11:00 pm 


TARK

I can’t believe Pac-Rios did only 500,000 PPVs… WTF is up with people?

Maybe the usual PPV crowd said, “Who TF is Rios???” … With the lame effort Rios brought he didn’t deserve his 4-million… 4 million for the promotional costs and Pacquiao got 18 million… What was the live gate? That’s only way the promoters made anything … if the live gate was fantastic.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:57 pm 


REM

Yeah Arum said the fight did between 500k-600k which puts Pac only 275k behind Floyd.

Posted December 4, 2013 10:17 pm 


Hidalgo

“Pac vs Rios did only 500,000 PPV.” How do you know?

Posted December 4, 2013 10:14 pm 


PEEJ

Less than 500 thousand buys. Wow

Posted December 4, 2013 10:07 pm 


Dic Bulger

Here comes Manny……………Floyd better get ready cause Manny is gonna call his ass out, and he better accept or be called a chicken. Or worse, a wussy. Floyd will KO Khan then he might be ready for Manny. Manny is gonna bring it whenever it happens. Manny on offense and Floyd counter punching defense. Manny wins because on his offense he welcomes the counter puncher and then he counters the counter with his own barrage from all angles. Floyd is scared cause he will get his first goose egg on his record and a first goose egg on his forehead. Heeeeerreee Comes Manny!!

Posted December 4, 2013 9:55 pm 


REM

Urone yes that’s all true that’s what promoters do protect their cash cows Oscar does it with Canelo Floyd does it for himself.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:46 pm 


Whoever

Pac vs Bradley or Marquez, forget Mayweather, he is a bum.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:38 pm 


urone2

No one remembers that comment by Cotto, or all of you guy to young to have watched it live.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:34 pm 


SUP YALL

I vote for Pacquioa becoming A FREE AGENT as well! So we can get on with these fights.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:24 pm 


REM

Titopa Pac is caking at TR why would he leave. His life isnt boxing like Floyds is he can’t completely devote himself to it. Arum does his footwork and Pac shows up and fights. Arum made Pac a star he contributes to his political campaigns he’s helping Pac with his tax issues no way Pac should leave Arum.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:20 pm 


Tomato Can

What, KC, is a multi post gerbil???

Posted December 4, 2013 9:15 pm 


urone2

REM,

Arum was stopping Floyd from fighting Correlas, everyone started calling Floyd chicken. That’s when Floyd forced Arum to make the fight. Then Floyd was supposed to get the fight with Cotto, but Floyd left TR and Arum wouldn’t allow the Cotto/Mayweather match up. That’s why Cotto/Mayweather never fought at 140 lbs.

Does anyone remember Cotto in a post fight interview being questioned about a fight with Floyd and Cotto responding that he was not ready for Mayweather at that point.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:08 pm 


te tumbo

say what you want about Arum but without his careful management and mismatchmaking by Roach, Pacquiao* would’ve never made it beyond 130lbs Orrr a rematch/rubbermatch v. Marquez. Arum’s promotional clout has created a protective bubble around Pacquiao*. allowing him to avoid the riskiest opponents and handpick the most vulnerable, which he then proceeded to compromise at the negotiating table with catchweights and every other possible condition that would ensure a playing field tilted in Pacquiao’s* favor.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:07 pm 


REM

Titopa why wouldn’t they branch off since they had the clout to even if Arum treated them well. Arums a promoter that’s the nature of the business every promoter operates like him even Oscar and Floyd. Do you think Arum purposely held Floyd back no he looked to maximize profit so eventually under Arum Floyd wouldve headlined ppvs.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:00 pm 


Titopa

This is not to hate on Pacquiao, I’m posting this info cause he REALLY, REALLY needs to ditch Top Rank and become a free agent…he’d make so much more money it wouldn’t even be funny, he’d be able to fight ANYONE he wanted WHENEVER he wanted…he’d be MUCH better off, Top Rank is doing him NO GOOD at this point, they’re going to milk him for EVERY RED CENT.

Posted December 4, 2013 9:00 pm 


urone2

Titopa,

I was in Vegas in August, the haven’t started on the stadium yet, Maybe you should tweet Arum and see when they are going to have the ground breaking ceremony. LOL…

Posted December 4, 2013 8:58 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – Yeah, well apparently he hasn’t paid his US taxes, he says he did, but if he did, then he’s been unable to prove it…which is why his accounts have been frozen. So far the only “proof” was a paper sent from Top Rank that shows the amount he’s paid, but NOTHING official from the IRS. So, he’s effed.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:57 pm 


PEEJ

Well I’m not sure about his finances but I do recall they where doing an investigation in his finances a couple years ago and I’ve said it before that he has such a big entourage that he will go broke. And arum is doing him like King did Tyson. Only difference is Pac is not in jail

Posted December 4, 2013 8:53 pm 


KC

What??? Pac fights at a higher frequency rete than Fraud??

Posted December 4, 2013 8:46 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – I know you have an open mind…google “Manny Pacquiao Broke”, and it’s going to be the first link…read that thing, proof that Manny is broke and has been raped by Arum and Top Rank.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:45 pm 


Titopa

PEEJ – Oh yeah. I forgot about that “stadium” that’ll host the fight….wonder how that’s coming along.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:44 pm 


PEEJ

You can give them all the facts in the world but they still believe what they want. Fact is Arum better start on building that stadium before trying to negotiate the fight. That was a negotiation killer the last time

Posted December 4, 2013 8:34 pm 


Jay rock

Boring choices come on

Posted December 4, 2013 8:33 pm 


Titopa

REM – Why do you think Oscar and Floyd (both once promoted by Top Rank) would rather do business with each other?? Ever ponder that? Why do you think Floyd left Top Rank to become his OWN boss? Why did Floyd go from NEVER being on PPV while he was with Top Rank to being the PPV king when he became a free agent? Do you think Top Rank has something to do with that? c’mon! Wake up

Posted December 4, 2013 8:30 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

TARK

Who’s he going to fight?

How about Adrien Broner??? How about Lucas Matthysse??? How about Danny Garcia???

Frankly.. I’m tired of seeing him fight Marquez.
Posted December 4, 2013 8:04 pm

^I’d bet in favor of all 3 of those guys beating Manny.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:28 pm 


PEEJ

Pac fans are delusional. That’s really all that can be said.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:26 pm 


TARK

Arum wants Pacquiao to fight Floyd… But I think the fight should be in Beijing China… Put it in Olympic Stadium and charge 20,000 a seat at ringside… 8,000 for lower level… 1000 for the nose bleed seats.

Seat it for 200,000 avg 5000 a ticket … It will be the first billion dollar gate. Let Manny and Floyd keep the live gate revenues and the promoters can keep the PPV take, which should be about $300,000,000.00

Posted December 4, 2013 8:14 pm 


REM

Nor should Arum accept less than an even split Pac is a cash cow wtf they look like letting Floyd keep all the revenue. Global boxing icon Pac can also demand the bigger portion of the purse and has the #s to back it up please with the bs.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:11 pm 


TARK

Who’s he going to fight?

How about Adrien Broner??? How about Lucas Matthysse??? How about Danny Garcia???

Frankly.. I’m tired of seeing him fight Marquez.

Posted December 4, 2013 8:04 pm 


REM

Titopa because Floyd wants to put as much as he can between himself and Pac. TR and GB did fights together but for GB to work with Floyd they had to chose a side Floyds side he’s the one with the problem with Arum. So TR has no choice but to do inhouse fights. You can argue till the end of time how Floyd will beat Pac that’s up for debate but the debate is over on who avoided who.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:58 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

arum knows pac can’t beat floyd haha

Posted December 4, 2013 7:57 pm 


Titopa

B Red – Yup! and it’s not cause Arum’s afraid Manny will lose, I mean, Manny just got PUT TO SLEEP….with ONE fight against Rios, Manny is apparently “back”…he’s so beloved that he can easily bounce back from the whooping Floyd will give him, it’s MONEY!!! Arum does NOT and will NOT share any of it with Floyd or Golden Boy..he knows Floyd holds most of the cards and bargaining power so he rather not even bother. Arum won’t accept anything less than 50/50, so there you have it, this fight will NEVER get made.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:38 pm 


Titopa

Sup – It’s been YEARS since Arum has allowed his fighters to fight outside of his banner….back when Golden Boy and Top Rank had a good relationship, since then, Arum has been too prideful…he’s an HBO promoter and won’t go anywhere near Golden Boy or Showtime…it’s sad, cause the fans lose.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:35 pm 


B Red

Its obvious Arum doesnt want Pac to fight floyd

Posted December 4, 2013 7:35 pm 


Titopa

REM – Why did Mosley have to sign a ONE fight deal with Top Rank months before his fight with Pacquiao? Why did Marquez suddenly sign with Top Rank months before his 3rd fight with Pacquiao? Since then, why has Marquez ONLY fought Top Rank fighters? He used to fight everyone and anyone….he fought Floyd before he signed with Top Rank. C’mon!

Posted December 4, 2013 7:34 pm 


Titopa

REM – Pac vs Oscar was over 5 years ago….and 4 years since Mosley vs MargaCheato. Since then, when has Arum matched his cash cows against threatful opponents OUTSIDE of Top Rank? I’ll tell you. 4 years ago.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:30 pm 


ha

Pac who?

Posted December 4, 2013 7:27 pm 


Sup

Danny Garcia vs Ruslan Provodnikov
Danny Garcia vs Timothy Bradley

Lucas Mattysse vs Ruslan Provodnikov
Lucas Mattysse vs Robert Guerrero

Adrein Broner vs Amir Khan
Adrien Broner vs Manny Pacquiao

Posted December 4, 2013 7:17 pm 


REM

Arum Arum Arum lol. Arum let Pac fight Oscar when the consensus was Oscar would k.o Pac Arum let Margo fight Mosley Arum Arum Arum smh.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:16 pm 


Sup

JMM vs Danny Garcia
Bradley vs Lucas Mattysse
Mike Alvarado vs Robert Guerrero
JMM vs Khan
Broner vs Pacqiuoa

Posted December 4, 2013 7:12 pm 


Sup

Titopa – thats true

Posted December 4, 2013 7:10 pm 


Titopa

Sup – Arum won’t let ANY of his fighters fight guys from other promotional company…you MUST sign with Top Rank first so he can get a piece of your check….so, if you really want that fat check to fight Pac, be ready to give some of it up to Arum.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:09 pm 


Titopa

Hec Dog – Unless you’re signed to Top Rank, you aren’t allowed to fight Pacquiao…that’s the BOTTOM line, Arum is a greed old fart who wants his hands in BOTH fighters’ pockets…that’s really what it is, if he can’t get a cut of your check…he won’t let you fight Pac. Which is why Mosley had to sign a one fight deal with Top Rank, and why Marquez signed a deal with Top Rank before his third fight with Pacquiao.

Posted December 4, 2013 7:08 pm 


Sup

Brandon Rios vs Lucas Matthysse
Ruslan Provodnikov vs Robert Guerrero
Brandon Rios vs Robert Guerrero
Ruslan Provodnikov vs Danny Garcia
Pacquioa vs Broner
Amir Khan vs Robert Guerrero
Ruslan Provodnikov vs Adrien Broner
Bradley vs Danny Garcia
Bradley vs Ruslan Provodnikov 2
Lucas Matthysse vs Ruslan Provodnikov
Pacquioa vs Ruslan Provodnikov

Posted December 4, 2013 7:08 pm 


Jonn E. JaGozza

Just for the hell of it , has anyone heard anything about RIOS after that disgraceful performance he put on last weekend…. PEACE … Boxingdicionary.com

Posted December 4, 2013 7:04 pm 


Sup

Pacquioa vs Canelo Alvarez

Posted December 4, 2013 6:59 pm 


Sup

BRADLEY vs KHAN
BRONER vs KHAN
PACQUIOA vs KHAN
not Mayweather. He has to earn it!

Posted December 4, 2013 6:58 pm 


Jonn E. JaGozza

If Pacquiao fights either Bradley or Marquez, that will regain a lot of respect for him that I lost… but if it’s another bumof the month opponent then forget it… HAve him beat either Bradley or Marquez theni’d be opne for either a reamatch with Cotto or a fight with GGG… IF he wins again then a fight with Mayweather but I think he’ll never get through all the others I lined for him … PEACE ….. Boxingdictionary.com ” a book for all die hard fight fans “

Posted December 4, 2013 6:57 pm 


Sup

Pacquioa should face KHAN instead.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:56 pm 


Havoc

Let him fight Gerrero or Alvarez. Follow the foot step of Floyd. Not fair to go kill your self while Floyd Cherry pick the weak less dangerous opponent.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:52 pm 


PEEJ

It’s obvious here that Pac is clearing ducking Floyd. Floyd has no opponent at the moment but has had this date since Sept. Pac and company are clearly not interested in Floyd by setting their date up in April

Posted December 4, 2013 6:43 pm 


PEEJ

This can’t be true. Pac is never fighting in the US again. Bob Arum said so and everything he says is fact

Posted December 4, 2013 6:42 pm 


Fan

I hope Pbf will zip up his man suit and fight PAC on that date, if not he needs to start doing commercials for Aflack. Kahn has looked pathetic in his last few fights. But if there’s fools out there paying ya can’t blame Pbf for taking their money lol

Posted December 4, 2013 6:40 pm 


Anonymous

I still remember your icon drolling on the floor and his wife thinking he was dead. LOL Manny is a joke and beating a bum like rios proves what? I bet you he can KO Bradley Rios was handpicked. He stand right in front and takes punishment your grandmother could have looked good against him the real boxing people know the truth Manny is washed up. Arum will find another Bum for him to fight in April. A fight with Floyd holds no weight.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:23 pm 


powerhands

Id rather see many versus Marquez or Bradley again before a Mayweather fight. Floyd will get an easy big payday boring fight against manny. Floyd will keep manny at a distance with his jab. Manny is predictable, he throws punches while he’s bobbing. EASY! Floyd knows that. We will see when they accept his terms. Manny don’t want to see the ruslan. I don’t think too many do. Yes he sparred with pac, but like Freddie said the Ruslan figured him out. I want to see PAC fight Marquez, or Bradley again. No one new. Avenge your loses. That’s what I’m talking about. Then call out Floyd.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:21 pm 


Hec Dog

The great Manny Pacquiao returns to the States. Manny will once again, as he always does, bring excitement to the world. It’s quite clear that Floyd Mayweather continue to Duck the Prodigy and boxing icon, Manny Pacquiao. Don’t blame Manny for not making the fight, blame Floyd Mayweather as he decides to fight a glass jaw Amir Khan. The world will be watching Manny Pacquiao closely. He’s the talk of the town every time he fight in La Vegas as well as other venues. Another day to celebrate.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:17 pm 


TRUTH HURTS

Pac vs Rios did only 500,000 PPV. Arum is full of poo!

Posted December 4, 2013 6:16 pm 


Sup

Yea they had very weak undercards.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:15 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Just another Top Stink matchup and weak BS under cards.

Posted December 4, 2013 6:09 pm 



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