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Something tells me this “Really” fool is actually the well-known fool “nameless.”

Posted November 14, 2013 9:26 pm 


“I guess you talk sooooo much crap you can`t keep up with it.”

Oh, it was on another thread. LOL! Got me sussed,eh? LMAO!

Posted November 14, 2013 9:25 pm 

Tomato Can

FA, thanks. I think Ward gets most of his hate for winning the 168 lb. tournament without leaving home.

Posted November 14, 2013 8:00 pm 


It was another thread milkweed that you made your girl self know to me. You and your nut buddy. I guess you talk sooooo much crap you can`t keep up with it. Say good night fool. Get a life in the real world, you and your nut buddy that goes back and forth with you stroking each other.

Posted November 14, 2013 7:20 pm 


“Your first post consisted of insulting me.”

Scroll to the bottom of this webpage fool and you’ll see I made the first post on this thread.

As for “girls” you’re the only one around here doing all the whining.

Posted November 14, 2013 6:29 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Why’s Ward get so much hate, he’s polite, seems to have good work ethic, and wants to be the best. I have no problem with Ward.” – Agree with Tomato Can. I don’t find his fights very exciting but do support him as a fellow SF Bay resident. He’s not getting arrested, doesn’t talk badly about anyone, and has maximized his natural talents. He gets props IMO.

Posted November 14, 2013 6:16 pm 


Hidalgo says I wrote the first post on this thread. Your first post consisted of insulting me. Wrong you first made a girl comment before, you had no business to milkweed. You and Joseph Herron who now I see your both in the same nut bag, two experts. Now I`m done so say no more you get no more. Later fakes

Posted November 14, 2013 3:15 pm 

Tomato Can

Nit picking over Shields statement is a waste of time. Who cares, and why?

Posted November 14, 2013 2:40 pm 


lol. he has to drink because he is like” what the hell are these fitness guys putting parachutes on my boxers for?”

Posted November 14, 2013 1:58 pm 

Joseph Herron


Yes, I did indeed place Brandon Rios in the same sentence and category as Jose Luis Castillo.

You may not care for his style, but that doesn’t make him a one dimensional brawler. He’s a much better technical fighter than you and a lot of fight fans realize.

I challenge you to take a closer look at his technical prowess in closing the distance and proficiently fighting on the inside.

And yes…Brandon is the best inside fighter since JLC. Ask anyone who has sparred with him or fought him.

Posted November 14, 2013 11:59 am 


Joseph did you really put Brandon in the same breath as Jose Luis Castillo???, listen man you can’t compare the 2, remember Brandon’s biggest fight came against Alvarado, now Alvarado is tough as nails and in the first fight he fought Brandon’s fight, which benefitted Brandon, when he chose to box more he got Brandon, now not taking nothing from mike but he’s not the best boxer either, Brandon is good on the inside but that’s it! And even than he’s not the best since Castillo, the sport of boxing is hit not get hit, Brandon is a flat footed heavy handed fighter that does have heart!, but his style doesn’t appeal to me!, anyone can brawl some better than others! But NOT everyone can take a fighter completely out of his game!

Posted November 14, 2013 11:47 am 

Joseph Herron

Jack Dempsey: “how do you know Shields has spent more time in the boxing gym then me ,,you don’t know anything about me”

Reading comprehension is a must, my friend!!

Posted November 14, 2013 11:37 am 

Joseph Herron

You are dead wrong about Ronnie, Deepwater!!

He waits until after the gym closes!! lol

Posted November 14, 2013 11:35 am 

Joseph Herron

Deductive reasoning, Jack Dempsey…pretty obvious, brother!!

Posted November 14, 2013 11:33 am 


Ronnie shields is getting drunk at the plex.

Posted November 14, 2013 11:14 am 

Edgar Guevara

Start that fihht, will see comparison to Holyfield, Tyson, Whitaker.

Posted November 14, 2013 9:47 am 

Joseph Herron

Jack Dempsey: “What i’m saying is that the article about the same cloth makes no sense at all….Tyson was not of the same cloth as Holyfield ,Tyson had quit in him, when the going got rough Tyson would quit ,while Holyfield would keep going .so which is it for this Rodriquez fellow the same cloth as Tyson or Holyfield they both were totally different fighters .so this trainer Ronnie Shields does not know what the hell he is talking about .”

Jack D, try to be a bit more respectful of a man who has spent more time in the gym with Tyson, Holyfield, and Whitaker than both you and me.

You’re focusing on one aspect of Tyson and Holy…obviously Ronnie isn’t.

Iron Mike is a Hall of Famer…Whitaker is one of the best defensive fighters in the history of boxing…Hoyfield’s heart and mental toughness is legendary.

The common thread here that tie all three fighters together is that intangible of greatness…something that is impossible to measure.

Ronnie truly sees it in Edwin…we will find out on Saturday night in his performance against one of the best P4P fighters on the planet.

Posted November 14, 2013 3:24 am 

Joseph Herron

Boxer: “bam bams style is fan friendly, but to people that like the art of boxing, he’s not on our list at all he’s tough and I respect him caus he boxes which is a really hard sport, but as far as how he fights no way!”

LOL…if you really like to see the art of boxing, then you really should look a little harder when you’re examining a brilliant inside fighter like Brandon.

Brandon gets hit…yes, but watch the way he applies intelligent pressure…when he fights Pac on the 23rd, watch what he does while he’s trying to cut off the ring with his feet and his jab.

He uses feints, touch jabs, and forceful jabs sporadically to intelligently work his way inside an opponent’s defense. Once he’s inside, his punch selection is brilliant. Most fighters don’t have an answer for Brandon once he’s closed the distance on them other than to tie him up.

He throws such beautiful short, compact hooks and uppercuts on the inside from different angles…it’s almost impossible to defend against if you’re not Floyd Mayweather.

Boxer, if you are such a connoisseur of the sweet science, watch Brandon…really watch how effective he is on the inside. Brandon is the best inside fighter since Jose Luis Castillo. He’s that good.

Posted November 14, 2013 3:18 am 

Tomato Can

Jack, I don’t think it’s that hard to understand, Ronnie mentioned great fighters who wet all great in different ways. I’m pretty sure he meant Rodriguez has the potential to be great I. His own way. If he meant Rodriguez is a combination of the three, and he’s correct, this kid must be a lot better than most think…

Posted November 13, 2013 11:33 pm 

Tomato Can

I suppose everyone thinks shoulder surgery is small potatoes these days. I’m sure today’s shoulder surgeries go much better than in the past, but I wouldn’t ignore the fact that Ward is coming off a surgery until he proves he’s still 100 percent.

Posted November 13, 2013 11:11 pm 


CORRECTION. ..Ward by THRONE defending UD.

Posted November 13, 2013 10:09 pm 


GOOD for Rodriguez. But whats BAD for him is that Ward is cut from the same cloth as Marciano, Calzaghe, and Mayweather Jr. …that’s called remaining Undefeated.. .Ward THRONE defending UD.

Posted November 13, 2013 10:07 pm 


“Don’t waste your time, Hidalgo,,,”

Sorry, Joseph. I couldn’t resist.

Posted November 13, 2013 9:11 pm 


salita doesn’t really sell many tickets. he is begging Camacho jr, mallignagi, Judah, foreman and any other NY guy that sells tickets for a fight. he got stuck with g brecero who doesn’t sell many himself. he will be happy being way down on a barclays card. his ship has sailed. fighting midwest bums in 6-8 rounders for $5000 a fight. when atop guy needs a stay busy win they will call on him.

Posted November 13, 2013 8:57 pm 


Styles do make fights! I agree with you there, but like max kellerman said pure boxing is not for everybody!,bam bams style is fan friendly, but to people that like the art of boxing, he’s not on our list at all he’s tough and I respect him caus he boxes which is a really hard sport, but as far as how he fights no way! Not a fan at all, I don’t see much skill in Brandon I see toughness, power, and heart but not much else, he gets hit to easy, he’s sloppy on his feet, I like boxers the ones that take away your best punch, a guy that fights you at an angle where it’s akward for you, makes you miss, uses the ring, when a guy goes to build a house if all he has with him Is a hammer he’s not going to able to do to much!

Posted November 13, 2013 8:46 pm 


Rigo made a mistake signing with arum but he just has to continue doing his thing. Years from now boxing fans will be studying his fights. I’d compare it to music. Rigo is like Gangstarr and these other popular boxers are like here today, gone tomorrow artists

Posted November 13, 2013 6:42 pm 


Thanks TJ

Posted November 13, 2013 6:03 pm 


“yet instead of promoting him he just calls him a boring fighter.”

Weird thing for a promoter to say about one of his top dogs, Tomato Can. I didn’t see anything boring in his dominating win over Donaire.

Posted November 13, 2013 5:26 pm 


One more thing kumquat, I speak my mind and that’s it.

As for my “opinionated and degrading of fighters…” Rather than just throw insults around like they have no value, why don’t you cite a mess of this degrading that I’ve done? I’ll respond accordingly.

As for my opinions, wake up. What exactly do you think these discussions are for? Well since you’re slow I’ll tell ya: For expressing opinions and thoughts.

Oh, and quit the charade. Post under the handle that you usually use.

Posted November 13, 2013 5:21 pm 


“Hidalgo I have been smelling it since you first jumped into my conversation. You still didn’t answer my question. Did you ever fight in the ring? ”

I jumped into your conversation? . When did it become your conversation? I wrote the first post on this thread. Your first post consisted of insulting me.

As for your “question” I’ve posted my brief autobiography and boxing history on ESB several times in the past. In fact, I’ve told everyone my real name and where I live.

How about you kumquat? You ready to do that?

Posted November 13, 2013 5:13 pm 


stark….Napoles was another that didn’t get a shot until late, he was a small wwt. but that’s the only title shot he could get…he ko’d Ralph Charles from behind but hit him right on the chin…a very exciting accurate puncher

Posted November 13, 2013 4:45 pm 


Arum wants rigo to get hit. Then he won’t be a boring fighter. F&$! him. It’s about the $$. The lust of money is the root of most evil.

Posted November 13, 2013 3:16 pm 

Tomato Can

Good point, Arum has one of the best boxers in the sport, in Rigonduex, yet instead of promoting him he just calls him a boring fighter. Perhaps Rigo should move to showtime…

Posted November 13, 2013 3:09 pm 


One boxer that is relatively unknown but had all the fireworks of an exciting boxer & had mad skills was Jose “mantequilla” napoles. Check him out on YouTube. A Beast!

Posted November 13, 2013 3:05 pm 


Hidalgo I have been smelling it since you first jumped into my conversation. You still didn’t answer my question. Did you ever fight in the ring? I just figure someone as opinionated and degrading of fighters would surly have walked a mile in their boots. I did, not the most successful fighter but I did walk the walk and never went out on my back, in or out the ring. I`ll leave it at that, I`m done with your child like ways. You don`t have to answer the ?, I think I already know the answer. Carry on expert……

Posted November 13, 2013 3:02 pm 

Garbage Man (Is Back)

I think Don P is champagne. lol. Also wine does not have to be expensive to be good. But I get what you are saying. And agree to an extent. But there have been good boxers who where good ticket sellers. They just have to create a product people want to see.

Posted November 13, 2013 2:47 pm 



Joseph I disagree people don’t respect boxing skills, Guillermo rigondeaux was booed up and down when he took nonito to school, but yet Brandon rios gets a build up caus of his sloppy coming forward style attracts people

Posted November 13, 2013 2:01 pm


Probably the best post on ESB…… Not a truer word has been uttered on this site!
Just goes to show, if you serve the people Dom Perignon, they’ll swipe the house wine every time….

Posted November 13, 2013 2:40 pm 

Garbage Man (Is Back)

And you are right to an extent. That is also the promoters job to some how get the public to want to see their fighter. Problem is promoters don’t do that any more. At least most of them don’t.

Posted November 13, 2013 2:27 pm 

Garbage Man (Is Back)

The problem though is with those fighters you named, yes they talk about skills but they also talk about the tickets sells they had. All those fighters you named sold out arenas and casinos.

Posted November 13, 2013 2:25 pm 


Joseph I disagree people don’t respect boxing skills, Guillermo rigondeaux was booed up and down when he took nonito to school, but yet Brandon rios gets a build up caus of his sloppy coming forward style attracts people

Posted November 13, 2013 2:01 pm 


Garbage man- like I said once before sadly this is a buisness but like I said when we talk about the greats, Tito,Oscar, Leonard, Robinson, Ali, do we say “they made this much money” or do we say “wow his skills inside the ring were incredible” ?….. That’s my whole point who cares who sells out in such if those things catch your interest than your a pop culture junkie more than a fight fan!, andre ward cleaned out a whole division without having the luxury of hand picking opponents, so again numbers don’t have nothing to do with a mans skills at all!!!, if Oscar were to make a comeback fight against let’s say Felix sturm, it would sell over a million, does that make Oscar a beast as of right now???!. NO it doesn’t’

Posted November 13, 2013 1:58 pm 

Joseph Herron

Guys like Kovalev or Golovkin are marketable because their talent level is so ridiculously high…fighters like Dmitriy Salita are regional commodities because they sell so many tickets in their respective area.

But unless you have exceptional talent or can sell thousands of tickets, you’re up against it in the sport of boxing.

Posted November 13, 2013 12:27 pm 

Joseph Herron

Don’t waste your time, Hidalgo…mind over matter!!

You don’t mind because it doesn’t matter!!

Posted November 13, 2013 12:19 pm 


Although you’re the first stereo-idiot I ever saw.

Posted November 13, 2013 12:19 pm 

Garbage Man (Is Back)

Boxer, Chavez Jr no longer sells like he used to. After taking that beating by Martinez and then showing up in the shape he showed up against Vera and then getting a gift. Not to mention there wasn’t a great turn out for his fight. But being a ticket seller has everything to do with getting certain fights.

Posted November 13, 2013 12:17 pm 


Really….and C Dog, I suspect you are the same guy using two different handles so I’ll respond to you like you’re one idiot only.

Okay. That’s it. That’s all I have for you. Can you smell it yet?

Posted November 13, 2013 12:14 pm 

Joseph Herron

Boxing is entertainment…there are so many fighters who aren’t big ticket sellers but are already world champions.

Do you realize how many title holders there are currently who can’t get a fight on HBO or Showtime?

HBO and Showtime should really just start their own ranking systems and make their own titles for every weight division.

Posted November 13, 2013 12:05 pm 


“There’s f.c.u.k all culture shock between UK and Australia if you can get past an accent and insults suddenly being terms of endearment.”

LOL. Ok, thanks, Cyber-H@mster.

Posted November 13, 2013 12:00 pm 


Anonymous-what does gate numbers have to do with a guys boxing ability?, you sound as dumb as mayweather when he said that, is you know that before Oscar Floyd was fighting sharmba Mitchell on HBO after dark!, gate numbers?? Really??, that means that Chavez jr is one of the best ever right caus his fights always sell lol, andre ward stays true to himself and his beliefs doesn’t sell himself out for the spot light like Floyd, Oscar and company do that’s why he’s yet to even fight in Vegas that and he probly already smashed all your favorite fighters!, don’t hate, most people don’t know squat about boxing!

Posted November 13, 2013 11:33 am 

C Dog

Hidalgo, a suck up, know it all that never fought in his life. And don`t know fighters or character if he`s believes in Ice Chips.

Posted November 13, 2013 10:28 am 


Hidalgo – you are full of a bunch of, I can’t speak, I also believe, I don’t think, I question, I said, I were in his position. Don`t fakes like you ever stop with your self proclaiming crap. Who are you with all this I,I,I, crap. Did you ever climb the steps to fight – I would say NO. You still didn`t answer me, are you the left or right nut in the Scully nut bag. The way you get behind the clowns of this sport shows you know squat. I see why you are in that nut sack its all this I, I, I, and me, me, me but never really done crap. He’s his biggest fan and you are yours. You are a waste of air and intelligence.

Posted November 13, 2013 10:20 am 


Tomota Can – Ward is not polite. He has this better than you type attitude. Anyone that is referred or calls himself ” son of god ” is full of himself. Sure he is undefeated. I dont think he is the greatest. Why because he is boring. He’s a rip off the Hopkins blueprint.

Posted November 13, 2013 10:02 am 

Joseph Herron

Heavyweight Truth,

One of the reasons why Ronnie and Edwin took this fight is because they feel that they actually match-up well with Andre physically.

Ronnie believes that every other opponent Andre has faced to date have not been able to match him athletically, ultimately putting them at a severe disadvantage in the ring.

They strongly believe that for the first time in Ward’s career, Andre will not be the better athlete in the ring.

That’s what Ronnie means when he says this.

Posted November 13, 2013 10:02 am 


For Ronnie to say that Ward has never faced a fighter like Edwin is bordering on the ridiculous.This should be an easy win for Ward.Also,for Ronnie to say Edwin is a better fighter than Froch or Kessler is,at this point in his career,a step too far.While I find Ward’s style unappealing,there are very few styles he hasn’t faced.The only types of fighters that can beat Ward is an equally fast,slick boxer,or a relentless fighter with sufficient ring IQ.Froch fits the latter,but too low on ring IQ.Direel fits the former,but is too low on ring IQ and heart.

Posted November 13, 2013 8:38 am 


“Ward is a super-middle Klitschko.” In terms of dominance when even the strongest challangers have near-zero chanche once they step in the tring whith them (that many see as ‘boring’) maybe yes, but there the similarities end. Wlad knocks out most of his opponents, rarely goes into boring-UD- or SD (minus Povetkin and Ibragimov borefests of course, but those are 2-3 exceptions in 60 fights), plus he has this much needed “have gloves will travel” true warrior mentality Ward fundamentally lacks only fighting in his home and with his referees.

Posted November 13, 2013 3:40 am 


You negotiate extraordinary PED testing before a fight is signed..

It’s part of the agreement.. You don’t come after all the negotiations have been signed and sealed — and say you want a certain brand of PED testing that isn’t recognized by the International Olympic Committee.

Ward is willing to do Olympic style blood testing for PED’s… Just get those things done up front — so both parties trust the testers and other people they’re dealing with in the process.

Posted November 13, 2013 3:17 am 


There appears to be a very good reason why SOB Ward refused to take a PED test! Guess………….If I were Rodriguez I would not take that test if he isn’t. Wonder how much juice would be enough for Ward? By refusing to take the test, Ward is telling us something…….

Ward will use his head, elbows, hold, and make sure his referee takes care of him. Ward is afraid to fight outside his home town! Gee………….I wonder why? He refuses to fight outside his home town, and now he refuses to take a roid test?!

Posted November 13, 2013 2:33 am 


“The US is big, but there isn`t any culture shock in going from one end to the other, other than experiencing a rapid decline in IQ and a corresponding increase in gun and bible ownership as you go South, so I don`t class fighting within the US as being away.”

Uh, where are you from, Cyber-H@mster?

Posted November 13, 2013 1:10 am 

It’s Me, Ernie

Ward is a super-middle Klitschko…

Posted November 13, 2013 12:38 am 

Big Al

Just hope Steve Smoger isn’t reffing this fight. Normally a solid guy, but he did such a terrible, inexcusable job in the Hopkins-Murat fight that I wished somebody would’ve taken him behind the shed. I figured he’d be a lock for this fight because he has a rep for letting fighters fight out of clinches, which favors ward in a big way. Expect Rodriguez to come in weighing close to 190 for fight night.

Posted November 12, 2013 11:56 pm 


Lactic acid is they key

Posted November 12, 2013 11:44 pm 


I don’t like Cyber Hamster for 3 good reasons
1. He hates on Americans
2. He’s as funny as Glenn Beck
3. He’s an arrogant piece of mouse poop

Posted November 12, 2013 11:11 pm 

Tomato Can

Maybe he has a fear of flying.

Posted November 12, 2013 10:39 pm 

Tomato Can

Actually he’s fighting away from home this weekend.

Posted November 12, 2013 10:38 pm 

Tomato Can

LOL, you can never please some people…

Posted November 12, 2013 10:36 pm 

Tomato Can

If their getting into chamber’s (like Michael Jackson did back in the day) what else won’t they do? The fact is these guys are going to do what ever they can to get an edge. The stakes are too high not to.

Posted November 12, 2013 9:47 pm 

Tomato Can

You guys knocking Ward, may be getting your wishes, as it’s no easy task for fighters to be at their best after having surgery to repair shoulder injuries.

Posted November 12, 2013 9:42 pm 


Hyperbaric chambers are a tool to trick your body into producing more RBC’s.
There is good evidence behind the “Live-high train low” system, where you live at altitude to encourage RBC’s while training at sea level so that you can train at full intensity.

It produces measurable improvements for endurance sports – that’s beyond doubt – cyclists, runners etc do it.

The question is however, whether boxers get tired because of the inefficiency of their aerobic system – and to a large extent – because of the stop-start, high exertion nature of the sport, I don`t think they are – it`s more of an anaerobic sport like sprinting.
The other thing tiring boxers is their own skill level – nerves, missing punches, getting hit – especially to the body, being unable to buy a breather etc.

So really so long as it doesn`t impinge on your skills training time and high intensity training, a hyperbaric chamber can provide some help, though it might be more that it helps your long runs more than your boxing.

Personally, from an ethical standpoint though I think it comes close to being cheating – it isn`t that far off of just taking an EPO – which would at least be available to everyone not just those who live near a mountain or can afford a hyperbaric chamber.

Posted November 12, 2013 9:41 pm 

Tomato Can

Why’s Ward get so much hate, he’s polite, seems to have good work ethic, and wants to be the best. I have no problem with Ward.

Posted November 12, 2013 9:40 pm 

Joseph Herron

It is, brother!!

Unfortunately, we’ve had to juggle the show’s line up around because of scheduling conflicts…that’s why the press release didn’t go up any sooner.

But it should be a really great show!! Press release is up now!!

Posted November 12, 2013 9:24 pm 


Joe, is your show happening tonight?

Posted November 12, 2013 9:06 pm 


Well Deepwater, I’m guessing the hyperbaric chamber comes with Danny. Tell you what though, I have noisy knees. I wonder if it would help them? :)

Posted November 12, 2013 9:05 pm 


yeah man. sparring is the best thing to do. long runs and sprints is all you need. you do not need parachutes,cones oxygen masks. the best tool you can buy for cardio is army boots. the plex is way overrated. by the way shields has nothing to do with the yoga,plyometrics,body sculping, ect ect. he just runs the boxing part.

Posted November 12, 2013 7:51 pm 

Joseph Herron


that’s the ongoing debate, isn’t it? Emanuel used to say that fighters only did those conditioning exercises to get out of sparring…lol

Posted November 12, 2013 7:24 pm 


Im from gleasons gym so I like old school. A bunch of guys from gleasons went to plex for sparring. over dominoes they said that gym is junk. ronnie might be a good boxing trainer but all that other nonsense doesnt do a damn thing for boxing.

Posted November 12, 2013 7:11 pm 

Joseph Herron

Hidalgo: “Actually, Joseph, I thought I was watching a segment of the Twilight Zone.”

It all depends on how the fight plays out, brother!! lol

Posted November 12, 2013 7:04 pm 

Joseph Herron


It doesn’t even sound like me, does it?

Posted November 12, 2013 7:03 pm 

Thurmal Underwear

If Manny didn’t want to take a test for $40 million, why should Ward have to take one? LOL

Posted November 12, 2013 6:55 pm 


Hidalgo, I would let my muscles recuperate naturally so I don’t risk overtraining, rather then risk the side effects of hyperbaric oxygen treatments. If I had one of the illnesses it’s approved to treat? Then it’s worth the risk. The chamber can cause myopia and inner ear damage for a couple things. You know how athletes are. A little is good? More is better.

Posted November 12, 2013 6:40 pm 


“the plex gym sucks”

Really? Do you have firsthand experience with Ronnie’s gym, Deepwater152? Because if you don’t–and I suspect you don’t–how can you make such a comment with any credibility?

Posted November 12, 2013 6:28 pm 


Actually, Joseph, I thought I was watching a segment of the Twilight Zone. :)

Posted November 12, 2013 6:26 pm 


Anonymous, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved HBOT to treat more than a dozen health problems such as decompression sickness, carbon monoxide poisoning, gangrene, brain abscess, and injuries in which tissues are not getting enough oxygen. Hyperbaric oxygen is also used to treat tissue damage caused by radiation.

The main purpose that Rodriguez uses the chamber for, I believe, is to help his muscle tissues recuperate faster after a hard workout. It’s not used to enhance performance.

Posted November 12, 2013 6:26 pm 


“Damn, that’s cold, Hidalgo!! lol

I’m the one doing the narrating on the video! lol”

LOL! I’m still chuckling, Joseph!

That was a great job, though. So articulate. So succinct. So mah-ve-luhs!

Posted November 12, 2013 6:17 pm 


alot of people picked vernon over mosley because didnt viper beat up mosley in the amatuers? styles make fights. la bomba need to come charging out and stop ward . he might catch him cold and rusty but if he gives ward a good pace to set up he will get stopped at some point. the plex gym sucks

Posted November 12, 2013 6:03 pm 

Fight Aficionado

If Ward wants to entertain he’s going for the KO like he did against Dawson. If not he’s winning by boring UD. Up to him more than it is up to Rodriguez.

Posted November 12, 2013 5:52 pm 

Prof Konje

It’s possible that Shields and Rodriguez are just trying to psych Ward out, get into his head. Ward has always been clean and has fought better fighters than Rodriguez. I like Rodriguez and it should be a very good fight. However I doubt Shields when he says that Ward has never faced anyone like Rodriguez in his pro career. Ward has lots of experience both as amatuer and professional including the Olympics. I doubt that Rodriguez will show Ward anything that he hasn’t seen before. I do like Rodriguez and think that it will be a good fight going the distance.

Posted November 12, 2013 5:23 pm 


The PED thing is new, most people hate Ward because he’s a boring dirty fighter. Perhaps you’re such a boxing aficionado that nobody else can appreciate his skills the way you can, that would certainly explain his poor gate numbers and the fact that he has yet to do a PPV

Posted November 12, 2013 4:42 pm 


If your a true fan of the sport I mean a true fan than you can’t help but LOVE andre ward, so when people say stuff like he uses ped”s, his fights are rigged, yada yada, NO you fan boys ward doesn’t use any ped’s just caus he makes playtime out of your favorite fighter does not mean ped’s are being used, like I always say ward doesn’t fight in Vegas because ward will not sell out his beliefs nor himself just so he’s marketable the way mayweather, broner, and many other fighters do, like it or not andre can so quite a bit more in the ring than Floyd, their is well rounded fighters that can do a little bit of everything than theirs andre who can do a lot of everything, that’s why you got mayweather acting like a 4 th grader talking about broner is more known than andre! Lol kids, sog p4p champ

Posted November 12, 2013 4:33 pm 


Never heard so much rubbish coming from Shields.He and Rodriguez need to wake up and realise they are going to be involved in a mismatch.Ward KO 7.

Posted November 12, 2013 4:28 pm 

B Red

Ward is a special fighter, and one of my favorites. If his shoulder is fine he stops Rodriguez

Posted November 12, 2013 4:23 pm 


I don’t believe hyperbaric oxygen therapy enhances athletic performance. It may do the opposite. Andre Berto did it and has suffered numerous soft tissue injuries. I not saying because of the treatments—but it hasn’t helped.

Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is used to treat a wide assortment of medical conditions. If you have no medical issues why risk the side effects involved? Proven side effects of hyperbaric oxygen therapy include myopia, middle ear and inner ear injuries, and organ damage. Minute changes can occur that aren’t immediately observable. These can have a detrimental effect on performance, or cause some level of tissue damage not immediately apparent.

Besides treating illnesses, hyperbaric oxygen chambers prevent divers from suffering the bends. But like every other device, entrepreneurs always seek to profit from technology by looking for other possible ways to market it. The risk of oxygen toxicity is probably greater than any benefit for a fit athlete. It puts you in a 96% oxygen environment. Since high altitude training is a low oxygen environment—and is a credibly proven method for increasing your endurance—why would too much oxygen help you?

I don’t even believe high altitude training is necessary unless you’re going to fight at a high altitude. Running… wind sprints… interval training… plyometrics… speed training… cross training… weight lifting… calisthenics… aerobics… anaerobic… whatever names you them, traditional training methods can get you into condition to go 20 hard rounds and make your body as strong as it can possibly get. What more would you want?

You prepare better than your opponent by designing better workout regimens, eating better, sleeping better, living better, and assembling a better team. Not by trying dubious systems that have risky side effects and unproven benefits.

Posted November 12, 2013 4:19 pm 


This fight is nothing like the Mosley vs Forrest fight. Ward is more skillfull than Mosley. Forrest also held a title, Rodriguez has yet to fight for a title. He gets props for going straight for the champ. I mean that is what you should be trying to accomplish anyways. But Ward is gonna take Rodriguez to school. Also I think that head butt in the first Mosley vs Forrest fight did more damage that what people think.

Posted November 12, 2013 4:08 pm 

Robert A.

Way too much controversy over drug testing in this and so many other matches. Like it or not, performance enhancing drugs are part & parcel of the fight game – have been for some time and ain’t going away soon – if ever. There’s just too much $$$$ to be made for both the promoters and fighters as well.

Posted November 12, 2013 4:04 pm 


When ward fights in california you know the whole fight is rigged, the ref the judges the whole show.

Posted November 12, 2013 4:00 pm 

Joseph Herron


The article is supposed to merely “host” the video.

It’s not really an article

Posted November 12, 2013 3:58 pm 


Sorry but…this article is crap.

Posted November 12, 2013 3:49 pm 

Edgar Guevara

Ward has been dominant, not skiful as Mayweather.

Posted November 12, 2013 3:35 pm 

Joseph Herron

Damn, that’s cold, Hidalgo!! lol

I’m the one doing the narrating on the video! lol

Posted November 12, 2013 3:33 pm 


Ward is certainly beatable like everyone else but Edwin doesn’t have the tools to do it. Edwin’s too open for counters, throws alot of haymakers whilst going off balance. To beat Ward, he needs to put his combos together in a timely and orderly fashion. This not going to a brawl put a boxing match and Edwin’s in with a well-trained, somewhat mechanical and methodical boxer, he will have to move better, think faster and punch accurately all at the same time. Can he pull it off? I strongly doubt it. Ward by UD.

Posted November 12, 2013 3:32 pm 


“What did you think of my best impression of Liev Schreiber? ”

I must have missed that. When did you do it?

Posted November 12, 2013 3:23 pm 

Fight Aficionado

So if Rodriguez is like Tyson and Whitaker it implies he’s an ATG puncher and boxer. OK.

Posted November 12, 2013 3:23 pm 


Ediwin WILL upset Ward. Hes not as cerebral, but he is active, has a good chin, respectable power, and isnt afraid to let his hand go or fight him in his backyard. Ward has been fighting guys that are either afraid of him, or throw slower wide looping shots like Abraham, Miranda, or Bika. Edwin is different. Anyone not giving Edwin a chance needs to actually see things for what they are. Ward is good, but not unbeatable.

Posted November 12, 2013 3:19 pm 



Posted November 12, 2013 3:14 pm 

Joseph Herron

It’s pretty funny…Ronnie just told me that he likens this fight to the Vernon Forrest/Shane Mosley bout.

He told me that no one gave the Viper a chance to beat Sugar Shane the week of their first bout together.

Anything can happen in the ring!!

Posted November 12, 2013 2:49 pm 


I doubt he is cut from the same cloth as them but doesn’t really matter. Ward will handle him.

Posted November 12, 2013 2:20 pm 


Shields knows Rodriquez has -0- chance against Ward, but Rodriguez has little ti lose.

Posted November 12, 2013 2:05 pm 

mr gav

Everyone thinks there Irish. And they make Shi+ boxers can’t think of any good ones

Posted November 12, 2013 1:50 pm 


ronnie shields must be getting drunk at the plex to say this crap.

Posted November 12, 2013 1:47 pm 

The Best!

I s it true that Wards father is of Irish descent? If so I say big ups because most Irish fighters are straight forward but Ward does a little of everything.

Posted November 12, 2013 12:47 pm 


Ward is a drug cheat period

Posted November 12, 2013 12:09 pm 


It doesn’t matter what cloth he’s cut from if that’s the case ward is cut from the same cloth as sugar ray Robinson,ray Leonard, joe Louis, Duran, Chavez, b hop, Roy jones!!!, big ups to la bomba, but wards coming in to teach and punish!

Posted November 12, 2013 11:56 am 

The Best!

Ive seen Rodriguez fight and he was half ay descent but wont be a match for Ward.

Posted November 12, 2013 11:55 am 

flash knock down

Cut from the same cloth as Holyfield,Tyson and Whitaker lol. My advice to Rodriquez is to juice up.There is different levels to boxing when the bright lights are on.Rodriguez has never been in a ring with anyone like Ward and he will get killed.

Posted November 12, 2013 11:54 am 

Joseph Herron


Now on to the serious question…

What did you think of my best impression of Liev Schreiber? Did you like the narrative?

Posted November 12, 2013 10:51 am 


BTW, I believe Ward has already asked Shields and Rodriguez why they would ask him to test if they truly believe he is clean.

Posted November 12, 2013 10:46 am 


There was way too much emphasis on the drug testing issue in this featurette. Personally, I question Rodriguez and Shield’s motivation for asking Ward to take the random testing.

Shields claims that he doesn’t believe Andre is cheating but that he wants him to take the testing to show that he is a “leader.” Rodriguez claims he doesn’t believe Ward is cheating, but that if he has nothing to hide, why wouldn’t he want to take the testing, especially since Shields and Rodriguez offered to pay for it? Rodriguez then follows up by saying that Andre’s refusal to do the testing is “shady.” By this comment alone, Rodriguez is clearly insinuating that Ward has something to hide.

I can’t speak for Andre but if I were in his position my response would be, “If you guys truly believe I’m clean and that I don’t cheat, why would you even ask me to take the random testing? Either you believe me or you don’t, and if you do believe me, then I shouldn’t have to prove anything to you.

I also believe that it was underhanded of Rodriguez to ask for the testing at the press conference and I disagree with Shields who said that testing shouldn’t have to be a part of the contract. Why not?

But like I said in another discussion of this issue, Ward might also be refusing out of spite. I mean, why should he concede to do the testing if he feels like he is being unfairly cornered?

Drug testing aside, at this point in his career, I don’t think Rodriguez is going to have what it takes to beat Andre Ward. I’m more concerned about how Ward will perform after his shoulder injury and rehab or whether Ward will suffer a recurring or another injury in this fight.

Posted November 12, 2013 10:44 am 

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