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Public Enemy

When is Canelo or Chavez Jr. going to fight Andre Ward???

Posted September 25, 2013 10:01 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Yada yada yada…

Posted September 24, 2013 11:12 pm 


TARK

I meant.., “I agree that Calzaghe is the greatest fighter named Joe Calzaghe”

He reminds me so much of Cleverly with the way he gets hit that when I see Cleverly I see Calzaghe.

Posted September 24, 2013 10:34 pm 


TARK

I agree that Cleverly is the greatest fighter named Joe Calzaghe… But he’s the 1387th greatest fighter ever..

That’s because he was a face first brawler like Nathan Cleverly… Calzaghe would be destroyed by anybody as great as Kovalev — who smashed undefeated World Champion Nathan Cleverly like he was a 4-round fighter.

Posted September 24, 2013 10:32 pm 


HARSH REALITY

Good to see Tark agrees with me that Joe Calzaghe is the greatest ever. Obviously he couldn’t come up with anything more to refute my claim. Joe beats them all, easily.

HARSH REALITY

Posted September 24, 2013 6:31 pm 


TARK

Harsh Reality says.., “The greatest fighter called Joe Calzaghe”

Were there 2 fighters called Joe Calzaghe??? Maybe you’re right.

Posted September 24, 2013 5:38 pm 


Hidalgo

“but I DO pick the WINNER more often than anyone on this planet. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!”

Well, please prove that.

Posted September 24, 2013 11:21 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

“the greatest ever fighter called Joe Calzaghe, ”

I agree, actually he was the only fighter called Joe Calzaghe…

Posted September 24, 2013 10:47 am 


HARSH REALITY

TARK writes:

Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Hearns, Duran, etc., all ducked the greatest competitors at various times. In the case of Joe Louis, there were no great competitors when he was in his prime.

You are forgetting about the greatest ever fighter called Joe Calzaghe, who beat the best fighters at both super middle and light heavy and finished 46-0. He beat Hopkins, Jones, Lacy and Kessler, but you are too blind or stupid to admit he is better than Floyd and all those other jerks you champion.

HARSH REALITY

Posted September 24, 2013 4:07 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

them*

Posted September 23, 2013 12:24 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Real fight fans don’t keep track of how many “titles” a fighter has won since they’re mostly political and just about nailing fighters with bogus sanctioning fees. You see fighters very early in their pro careers walking into the ring with a bunch of belts wrapped around the and their posse, gets lame after a while…

Posted September 23, 2013 12:23 pm 


Boxtradamus

And NO I don’t always get them right but I DO pick the WINNER more often than anyone on this planet. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted September 23, 2013 6:40 am 


Boxtradamus

Nope. I TOLD Old Yank and Herron that Garcia’s Boxing IQ was very HIGH and he had MUCH ammunition to come away with the WIN and he DID. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted September 23, 2013 6:36 am 


TARK

Boxtra.., Cleverly doesn’t know you exist so how can he agree with you??? You can only agree with him on something that doesn’t require a lot of expertise … because you don’t have a lot.

You know Cleverly exists. He’s been successful enough to be famous. And even though he’s has real technical problems as a boxer, he knows a lot more than you do.

He’s been boxing for 15 years — and all you’ve been doing is watching and guessing who a winner might be — and getting it wrong a lot.. Like your latest pick of Matthysse stopping Garcia.

You were, WRONG AGAIN!!!!

Posted September 23, 2013 2:04 am 


TARK

Floyd has won three (3) World Championships at 154… That’s nine (9) World Championships all together.

Not bad for a guy who fought most of his career fights at 130, and never fought a fight at 135 until he was 25 years old.

Posted September 22, 2013 11:09 pm 


Exiled Jew

The clues are there right in front of your eye.

Posted September 22, 2013 9:25 pm 


Exiled Jew

Ward called Floyd out.

So did Bernard Hopkins.

Adrian Broner beat up up on much smaller fighters too.

Why doesn’t SREDMOND have a problem with that but does when a a boxer of a lighter complexion does it once?

Posted September 22, 2013 9:24 pm 


Hidalgo

“Once he gets rid of Rodriguez he can go ahead and stake his claim at light heavy.”

Ward won’t be getting rid of Rodriguez, but I get your meaning, Peej. I like Rodriguez a lot but I’d rather have seen him fight several other top super middleweights like Froch, Kessler, Bika, or before taking on Ward. I mean, Rodriguez is going right for #1. He may be in for a big disappointment.

Posted September 22, 2013 6:47 pm 


TARK

Clean effective punching is the main scoring criteria…

What you’re suggesting is like saying “Don’t count the baskets.” in basketball, “It’s more who gets the most steals and rebounds.”

Posted September 22, 2013 6:03 pm 


PEEJ

Punch stats mean nothing. Nobody should be using punch stats as an argument.

Posted September 22, 2013 4:40 pm 


TARK

Sredmond says.., “A guy who had only been defeated by Calzaghe and was competitive during that loss”

Kessler wasn’t competitive during the Calzaghe fight..

He won 2 rounds by landing big shots.. He gave the rest of the fight away so it wasn’t competitive.. The only decent win Kessler ever got was a robbery over Froch in Denmark when Froch was injured … Jim Lampley laid that robbery to rest just before the telecast of Froch-Kessler II — when Lampley displayed the punch stats for Froch-Kessler 1 … which overwhelmingly favored Froch.

Also both Al Bernstein and Steve Farhook had Froch winning.

Posted September 22, 2013 4:32 pm 


Manny

Sure Andre beats his opponents but dang he is a sleeper to watch and yes Luy he does clinch way to much.

Posted September 22, 2013 3:46 pm 


Luy

Ward is the greatest by far most boring fighter that ever graced the ring. I wouldn’t pay 2 cents to see that ring hugger !!!!!

Posted September 22, 2013 3:45 pm 


PEEJ

Ward is the Ring Super Middleweight Champ, meaning he is the top dog in the division. All roads lead through him if you want to be recognized as the lineal Champ.

Posted September 22, 2013 3:35 pm 


PEEJ

Ward is a damn good boxer and is the champ at 168 beating all the comp there. Once he gets rid of Rodriguez he can go ahead and stake his claim at light heavy.

Posted September 22, 2013 2:41 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

thank god wards a part time act,with a face like that he could turn milk sour!!the boring negative fart!!! sooner some warrior blasts him in to retirement the better!ACTION we want! not this prune

Posted September 22, 2013 2:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, below you try to pull rank and say “if you haven’t fought Championship caliber boxers you miss things” I know this is you stroking yourself and giving bogus testimony to your powers of discernment but this begs the question… WHY ARE YOU so

Posted September 22, 2013 6:07 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, your analysis of Wards opponents is NUTS saying “Carl Froch is the only one that means anything” is ridiculous beating Mikkel Kessler with 20 fights under his belt was a MASSIVE win! A guy who had only been defeated by Calzaghe and was competitive during that loss… Chad Dawson was one of the best LHW’s around despite the revisions and Ward technically dominated and KNOCKED him out… SOG has a quality resume and he’s taking in a top contender during his return bout… There is damn good reason he’s second in the sport and the idea that he is “Huge at the weight” is bogus… Canelo and Trout are BIG 154 pounders the come in typically 15-19 pounds on fight night… Andre is a guy who had underrated toughness yet proved to be tougher than all of them in his division..

Posted September 22, 2013 5:58 am 


Mitts

Hopkins sucks eggs hate the guy, Wards following the same path

Posted September 21, 2013 9:28 pm 


TARK

Hamster.., What Ward and Hopkins are — are highly skilled boxers.. They’re not gifted punchers or athletes. They can’t tear after people like Golovkin and Kovalev and rip them new bungholes. Floyd is a better athlete but he’s also not a big puncher.

The important thing is to fight within your abilities and not get greedy. Boxing is the art of self defense. Nobody ever said it was the art of seek and destroy. That’s the fun part … but also the risky part.

Posted September 21, 2013 6:04 pm 


Turb0-H@mster

Wards like Hopkins, in that their major asset is the ability to nullify opponents.

The problem with this is that there is only interest in seeing a sharp dangerous opponent nullified, so to an extent they are living off the interest in their opponents moreso than themselves.

Posted September 21, 2013 5:10 pm 


Big Al

booboomboy, if you’ve ever watched a Ward fight, its pretty evident why he isnt as popular as his #2P4P rating would have you believe. Entertainment: with the exception of the Dawson fight, which was likely more a fluke than anything, he has given us a string of totally forgettable fights and lots of inactivity in between. The only thing we remember about him from the super6 was the end results, not the action. Personality: this is boxing, not baseball, basketball or some other wholesome family sport. Being the good family guy, role model type doesn’t mean anything in boxing. This is boxing. Some fans like a good trash talker; they like their heels and bad guys. Ward just doesn’t have that dynamic personality or charisma to make him stand out. Element of risk: Ward is now notorious for fighting home fights only. When you refuse to come out of your comfort zone and you turn down fights and opportunities, some boxing fans backlash on you. Ward had opportunities with Bute in Canada and Froch in England and let them go. I think he has either been ill-advised or made some blunders that cost him great opportunities.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:46 pm 


Exiled Yank

After the Super Six, all of those men needed a year off. That tourney was brutal.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:50 pm 


TARK

@Herron.., Thanks man.

Not only styles…but boxing and punching ability has to be correctly analyzed. Many people think guys like Golovkin and Kovalev are “slow” because they’re forcing the action all the time. They’re not skipping and dancing around the ring—so people think they’re slow when they’re fast.

Boxing analysis isn’t as hard as handicapping horse racing—because there’s fewer variables. The best horse bettors are long time jockeys who later became trainers—and just worked in the industry for many, many years. They can look at a horse and tell whether he’s ready to run.

If you haven’t actually fought championship caliber boxers, even if you’ve been a trainer for years, you miss things. I remember hearing Angelo Dundee being interviewed before Tyson-Douglas. He said, “Tyson by 2 round KO—Douglas doesn’t belong in the same ring.” I thought, “Dundee is crazy. This is a long hard fight.” I bet the over, which was a good bet—but obviously wasn’t the best bet. I was influenced by overwhelming public opinion—which is something even the greatest boxing bettor suffers from.

I also heard Dundee being interviewed before the Douglas-Holyfield Fight. He said, “Douglas is too big and strong. He’ll dominate Evander.” I gasped, “Wow. Dundee really doesn’t have a clue.” But Angie never boxed. He was making subjective judgments based on size and strength. Holyfield was rightfully a solid favorite—but Dundee was out to lunch on that one.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:45 pm 


Boomboomboy

Anonymous I suppose Ricky Burns dominated Beltran and got a deserved decision? Home town/ controversial decisions happen in every country. Froch was dominated by ward nothing to do where it was held and I’m British.
As for coming to Britain why should Ward? Would Floyd come to fight Hatton? No because he is THE main man so why should he? Tell me the last fighter in his prime came to Britain for a fight? Jeff Lacy is who I can think of, so why does beating Froch in the UK make any difference?
Froch could fight ward in his back garden of his house, with his girl as the referee and he’d still lose every round FACT

Posted September 21, 2013 3:37 pm 


Boomboomboy

Andre ward is to the super middleweight division what Floyd is to welterweight (Pacquiao aside). He’s far far superior to the competition, the man should be a superstar by now he’s got it all, good looks, speaks well, great role model and the skills to go with it so can anyone explain why he’s not?

Posted September 21, 2013 3:27 pm 


Joseph Herron

Luke,

Edwin’s athleticism and power will give Andre trouble in this fight.

If you look at how Edwin’s career has progressed since being paired with Ronnie Shields, it’s hard not to be impressed with “La Bomba”.

He’s going to be on the show this Tuesday, so you will have a chance to listen to his mental state going into this very important fight.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:55 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tark,

This might be one of your strongest posts…

The biggest problems with most boxing scribes’ analysis is that they really don’t know what they’re looking at.

So they will try to analyze match-ups by punch-stats from other bouts that have no relevance when reviewing another, different style match-up, as well as resume.

Instead of analyzing how the styles mesh and potentially interact with each other, they will merely go over both fighter’s respective resumes and compare opposition.

It’s a shot in the dark.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:51 pm 


TARK

@TJ.., Trout is Trout.., I never said Trout wsa as good as Ward, or as good as Canelo. Trout beat an ATG fighter in Cotto. Cotto is definitely better than any fighter Ward ever fought.

One of the problems I see with analysts is the “Who did he ever beat?” question.. It doesn’t MATTER who you beat.. It only matters who you CAN beat if you get a chance to fight them.. You can’t beat anybody if nobody will fight you.

Ali beat nobody before he beat Liston. Foreman beat nobody before he slaughtered Frazier. Ward beat nobody before he boxed Kessler’s ears off. They were all huge underdogs. Even Floyd beat nobody of note before he ran over Genaro Hernandez like he was a 4-round fighter.

Golovkin and Kovalev haven’t beaten anybody of great note at this time … It doesn’t mean they wouldn’t comprehensively defeat anyone in their divisions.

You can’t beat anyone good until you get the opportunity to fight them. In Boxing, you might not get that opportunity.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:31 pm 


TJ

THE HARSH REALITY IS YOU DO NOT HAVE TO READ MY ESSAYS you total ignoramous. The only one who sucks is you. Your pseudo girlfriend posted this online for everyone to see.

Go away hash cakes and pick a fight you can actually win – like in kindergarten. FOOL!

Posted September 21, 2013 12:22 pm 


K now-Bobby Cause

Who is Andre Ward ?? ZZzzzzzzzz

Posted September 21, 2013 12:09 pm 


PEEJ

Ward wins this. He is the best and the Champ at 168. Nobody is beating him there no matter where it’s at. His comp is at light heavy

Posted September 21, 2013 11:50 am 


Anonymous

who is Ward fighting????

Posted September 21, 2013 11:48 am 


pugfan

Ward will out box , and out fox Rodriguez for an easy U.D.

Posted September 21, 2013 10:21 am 


Anonymous

Carl Froch travelled to the USA, Ward’s country, his backyard and Carl lost convincingly, fair and square. No one is arguing that point. Ward boxed a beautiful fight and won.

But when Carl (now with two World Title belts to Ward one) asked Ward to travel to the UK to for a return fight, he refused. That says everything about Ward. He’s a coward!

And don’t give me Ward would be robbed in the UK like the recent robbery of Beltran against Burns. We all saw that and we in the UK all booed at the outcome, fair minded fight fans want fair results.

But there have been plenty of bad decisions in the USA against foreign fighters.

Richard Abril v Brandon Rios …. Abril won every single round and still lost!

Pacman v Bradley. Pacman well and truly robbed. Even Bradley looked shocked when he realised he had won!!

I’m sure there are some fair minded fight fans out there (even from the USA) that can think of other fighters from foreign shores who got well and truly robbed in the USA.

Ward is a joke, he maybe talented and the best in the division but he’s a total coward when it comes to fighting outside the USA.

Andre Ward, fight Carl Froch in the UK you coward. He fought you in the USA!!

Posted September 21, 2013 10:06 am 


Anonymous

SO THIS IS WHAT BOXING HAS COME TO.

Posted September 21, 2013 10:03 am 


TJ

Hidaglo

TJ, Bika, Green, and Abraham are not head and shoulders above the likes of Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley.

If they were in the same weight class, I’d take Trout or Canelo over Green, Bika, or Abraham any day of the week–that’s how disparate their boxing skills are. And, I’d take Rodriguez over Bika, Green or Abraham. Bika would be his hardest fight, but Bika is really lacking in the skills department. I’m not saying this in an attempt to diminish Andre Ward at all.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:58 pm

HIDALGO… MY BAD…..

IT was late and I was going to bed… I meant to write BEFORE TROUT beat COTTO and CANELO beat TROUT….

Check my thread below and take a look at Trout’s last six opponents before he beat Cotto and then faced Canelo… They are no great shakes.

Posted September 21, 2013 7:27 am 


TJ

HAYE vs FURY has been POSTPONED…. haye suffered deep cut in sparring!!!!

OH, DEAR!!!!!

Posted September 21, 2013 7:23 am 


TJ

TARK YOU WROTE:

TJ.., “Another is a 2-weight world champion” … Right, Arthur Abraham, and you know what some of these “world titles” are worth? Crap

The only Ward win that means anything is Carl Froch. Froch is not a very skilled defender but he’s a gritty competitor like Calzaghe was. Nobody on your list of Ward victims was undefeated. Floyd has beaten guys with records like 43-0. 42-0, and 33-0.

Let’s examine TROUT’S last 6 bouts before CANELO:

Taronze Washington 13-10 W12 last 6 bouts 4-2
Rigoberto Alvarez 27-2 W12 (vac WBA Jnr M’W title) last 6 bouts 4-2
David Alonso Lopez 40-12 W12 (WBA Jnr M’W title) last 6 bouts 6-0
Fank LoPorto 15-4-2 WTKO6 (WBA Jnr M’W title) last 6 bouts 5-1
Delvin Rodriguez 26-5-3 W12 (WBA Jnr M’W title) last 6 bouts 3-3
Miguel Cotto 37-3 W12 (WBA Jnr M’W title) last 6 bouts 4-2

TARK you were waxing lyrical about TROUT and I posted this view on several threads before the MAYWEATHER-CANELO bout to question why you thought CANEO would beat FLOYD when TROUT had only beaten ONE decent fighter his whole career and that was COTTO (who in MY OPINION has not been the same fighter since electeing to forget his boxing skills at 10 stone to PLEASE the fans by fighting face first against the likes of JUDAH & COTTO as he fought at Welterweight)….

At LEAST SOG had fought men of CHAMPIONSHIP CREDENTIALS….
ABRAHAM dominated his M’W rivals and DARED to step iup and challenge himself with the big fish of the SMW division….

CHAD DAWSON was on his way to being a very goof LHW champion but DARED to challenge himself and step down for COMPETITION!!!! (Unfortunately, he will not be the same at any weight)…..

KESSLER is still good enough to give any SMW a stiff argument and BIKA whilst not the most skillful or highest ring IQ is still a handul for anyone…..

SERIOUSLY TARK…. WARD has done more than CANELO & TROUT put together…

WARD has beaten everyone he has faced and has NEVER looked in trouble since perhaps one of his early bouts, where he was hurt but had the sense to hold on and clear his head.

You can take that to the bank!!!!

Posted September 21, 2013 7:21 am 


Ike

Ward is indeed a little boring. But his last fight was as exciting as it gets: Three knockdowns on his way to a TKO stoppage win. Rodriguez is a good fighter and is not a tune-up fight. Considering the layoff and quality of opposition, Ward may have a hard time looking good in this fight.

Posted September 21, 2013 7:16 am 


lefhook

Lol Peckham

Posted September 21, 2013 6:14 am 


P4P PECKHAM

Boring Ward! I hope Rodriguez headbutts him first.

Posted September 21, 2013 6:10 am 


lefhook

Ward has tremendous feet, he is great at judging distance, getting off then negating what the other guy can do. I’ll wait till after the next time he and Froch fight though. Froch has a lot more heat to bring than last time, that’s a fact. Watch the last 2 rounds of the first fight!!!

Posted September 21, 2013 5:59 am 


punch

Oh! my God are people complaining about Ward holding? Whilst they’re fine with Mr. Wlad “Octopus” Klits,huh? End the double standards already.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:50 am 


Lenin

Good to see the true champion at SMW returning to the ring. He’s a boxer, not a brawler! He’s back to rule them all again! The only thing I can complain about is a) boxing at home FAR too often and b) quit the fouls, you don’t need them, Ward.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:29 am 


Anonymous

I remember leading up to Ward`s fight with Froch, Froch could`nt stop running up his mouth, he ,Froch spent the whole of the fight backing up. Ward beat him on the outside and beat him in in-fighting as well. Ward won every round. Then froch british as he is, could only excel at what they are good at, finding excuses after the event. Every fighter that beat up these self-proclaimed supermen are “boring”.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:22 am 


murderman

I think ward may get upset. He is coming off a long lay off, surgery and im sure he is rusty. Also beef w promoter over money also can be a huge distraction. Plus he is fight a young hungry fighter. Could be trouble for ward!

Posted September 21, 2013 2:15 am 


Jake Blatworth

Wards a sleeper. After the Kessler fight I never seen so many intentional head butts in my life.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:31 am 


Belief

Ward sucks man. I have never went past the second round seeing his fights. The guy is a real snoozefest. its hard to believe this guy is a champion all he does is hold

Posted September 21, 2013 12:03 am 


Hidaglo

“TJ-Only the AMATEURS are hard on Ward. The EXPERTS rate Ward right behind Mayweather. I personally rate him right behind Rigo. That’s pretty damn GOOD”

ROFLMAO! Like anyone cares where you rate him.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:01 am 


Hidaglo

TJ, Bika, Green, and Abraham are not head and shoulders above the likes of Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley.

If they were in the same weight class, I’d take Trout or Canelo over Green, Bika, or Abraham any day of the week–that’s how disparate their boxing skills are. And, I’d take Rodriguez over Bika, Green or Abraham. Bika would be his hardest fight, but Bika is really lacking in the skills department. I’m not saying this in an attempt to diminish Andre Ward at all.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:58 pm 


Locus

Ward is soooooooooo boring

Posted September 20, 2013 11:25 pm 


James

Ward is 2nd to the dirtiest fighter, number one is Bernard Hopkins.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:25 pm 


Ray Ray

Good 2 C the future pnd 4 pnd king back in action

Posted September 20, 2013 11:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Of course Wards the #2 fighter in the World the man proved that in the ring… A layoff due to surgery is understandable to sane fans… He trounced all pretenders to his throne…

Posted September 20, 2013 11:15 pm 


largo

Ward is second only to Floyd, nobody else; I’m worried about Ward injuries though, they might cut his career short. I’m hoping they won’t be a factor but what TF we know…

Posted September 20, 2013 10:53 pm 


Boxtradamus

TJ-Only the AMATEURS are hard on Ward. The EXPERTS rate Ward right behind Mayweather. I personally rate him right behind Rigo. That’s pretty damn GOOD.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:38 pm 


Boxtradamus

Ward by DOMINANT UD or late stoppage.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:33 pm 


badger

There are a lot of good matches at 168 or 175. Just a problem with the matchmaking. Who will fight kovalev next??

Posted September 20, 2013 10:18 pm 


nameless

lefhook, it’s ok to dream.

Posted September 20, 2013 9:31 pm 


Ike

Boxer – Tell ‘em! You are speaking the gospel. People who say Ward isn’t that good simply don’t know much boxing or S.O.G. must have beat their favorite fighter. He has fast hands. He can box. He fights very well on the inside. He has a phoenomenal ring I.Q. And as evidenced in wins over Froch and Dawson, he has the rare ability to take his game to a whole other level in what should be his most difficult fights. I have the utmost respect for Froch, but Ward made him look downright ordinary. The guy has mad skills and is humble. He is #2 on my P4P list and right now no one from 160 to 175 lbs can come close to beating him.

Posted September 20, 2013 9:29 pm 


lefhook

He wouldn’t have been great if there had been a 13th n 14th round lol it’ll be a much better fight next time. Wards not great yet. He needs to come out of his comfort zone. He cant sell a fraction of what Froch can do. Top fighter though!

Posted September 20, 2013 9:19 pm 


B Red

Lefhook, Froch is a very good figher, but Ward is great

Posted September 20, 2013 8:23 pm 


lefhook

Watch the 11th and 12th rounds of Ward-Froch and tell me there wasn’t a real chance of Ward getting stopped but Froch if it was over15. Also Froch is starting fights fast now, he was a notorious slow starter back when they fought last

Posted September 20, 2013 7:21 pm 


WHAT!?!

Ward still hiding at home, shadow boxing for peanuts because he can’t fill a church hall.

Posted September 20, 2013 7:13 pm 


TARK

TJ.., “Another is a 2-weight world champion” … Right, Arthur Abraham, and you know what some of these “world titles” are worth? Crap

The only Ward win that means anything is Carl Froch. Froch is not a very skilled defender but he’s a gritty competitor like Calzaghe was. Nobody on your list of Ward victims was undefeated. Floyd has beaten guys with records like 43-0. 42-0, and 33-0.

Edwin Rodriguez is the best all around fighter Ward ever signed to meet. Ward has actually never been in a tough contest because nobody ever had the overall skills to stay with him.

Posted September 20, 2013 6:58 pm 


TJ

Vagaries of battle and not vagouries!

Posted September 20, 2013 6:46 pm 


TJ

RODRIGUEZ’S BEST CHANCE IS WARD IS COMING OFF a year lay-off through injury. Noone can tell how his shoulder will hold up to the vagouries of battle.

If you list WARD’S last 6 opponents they are head and shoulders over those of Trout and Canelo (before he fought Canelo and Canelo fought Mayweather), so I don’t know why people are being so hard on SOG!!!

Below is the list with the records going int other bouts /w WARD:

KESSLER 42-1
GREEN 29-1
BIKA 28-4-2
ABRAHAM 32-2
FROCH 28-1
DAWSON 31-1

5 of the 6 have been World Champions, 3 have been multiple same -weight world champions and another is a 2 weight world champion

I really can’t understand why people are down on him!

Posted September 20, 2013 6:43 pm 


Boxer

For you guys that call andre boring and fraud mayweather go watch UFC caus this ain’t for you, you cant compare Floyd and andre you have plenty of guys lining up to fight Floyd and Floyd gets to pick who he wants, but no one wants to fight ward, why caus andre is the real deal, cleared out a division ill say it again cleared out a division and really fought the best in doing so, jumping over the creek instead of waiting for the bridge to be built “Floyd”, but again andre is a man of faith and won’t talk smack, won’t be flashy,basically doesn’t step to unnecessary boundaries to gain publicity like a broner or a mayweather therefore America wants no part in him, but to us true fans of the sport he’s S.O.G #1 p4p king andre ward!

Posted September 20, 2013 6:16 pm 


Proud African

I’m from Kenya so it won’t hurt much as my fingers are long, slender and bony unlike those big nasty thick sausage fingers Nigerians and Ugandans have.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:45 pm 


Proud African

B Red, can I put my finger up your ass?

Posted September 20, 2013 5:43 pm 


Hidalgo

“After 5 or 6 rounds Ward is going to know he’s in a real fight.”

I agree, Tark. I expect a full 12 round fight but I still favor Ward. He’s smarter, his skills are more polished, and he’s an experienced big-fight champion.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:34 pm 


TARK

Actually Fight Aficionado, Ward fought at 178.6 and won Olympic Gold, which is what 81 Kilos translates to. He’s huge for 168 and can pretty much overpower everybody — with physical strength, not firepower… If he gets past Edwin I’d love to see him vs Kovalev.

I do expect Edwin to make a strong challenge… He’s a big fight performer.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:33 pm 


TARK

SOG can be an SOB with his head… but he’s headed for the ER

ER has to hone that right uppercut to razor sharpness and rip it right into AW’s stoic face when he tries to get a little head work in. Edwin needs to get good, quick, tough sparring partners. Canelo’s problem was lame sparring. ER needs to get that piece in place.

Edwin is strong. He’s tough. He can box and punch. He can defend. He can turn up the volume. Ward should be favored because he’s a really great fighter. He’s probably the best super middleweight ever — but Rodriguez is the first guy Andre ever fought who’s got a complete game. After 5 or 6 rounds Ward is going to know he’s in a real fight.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:02 pm 


Worcester Ma

Bring it home Edwin !!!!!!

Posted September 20, 2013 4:59 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Maybe 168 is perking up after all. Chavez Jr says he’s fighting at 168 unless a marquee bout at 160 is made: “I will go down to 160 if there are good fights on the table, like the rematch against Martinez, or a clash against Gennady Golovkin,” Chavez said. “Otherwise, I will fight at 168, against Sakio Bika or Andre Ward.”

Posted September 20, 2013 4:54 pm 


largo

Ward is only second to Floyd but one wonders if injuries won’t shorten his career…

Posted September 20, 2013 4:44 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Pardon that, I was addressing malachi not SR.

Posted September 20, 2013 4:44 pm 


Fight Aficionado

SR, problem with that is they don’t draw outside their own countries. And despite what Ward says, LA is not a neutral site anymore than Manchester is neutral. Thing with Ward is he fought at 175 in the Olympics and won gold. It’s unusual he’s stuck at 168 for this long. Plenty of action at 175 if he wants it.

Posted September 20, 2013 4:43 pm 


srminimo

Good to see Ward back in action. I don’t think Rodriguz will have the goods, but he’s earned the chance.

Posted September 20, 2013 4:41 pm 


malachi

Fight, I wouldn’t mind seeing them lace em up again but I’m thinking somewhere neutral because without a knockout I’m sensing the old fashion switcharoo in Frochs hometown…yezzzirr!

Posted September 20, 2013 4:21 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Ward will take Rodriguez to school, everyone knows that. Not a lot of good fights at 168 though since he cleaned out the division already. If Froch beats Groves I’d like to see them rematch in England though.

Posted September 20, 2013 4:13 pm 


B Red

Malachi has the beat

Posted September 20, 2013 4:12 pm 


Big Al

So ward finally caved and decided to give Edwin a fair share of the purse afterall. Ward may be #2P4P, but his audiences and viewership barely crack the top 25 I think.

Posted September 20, 2013 4:09 pm 


Slim Whitman

Good to see him get back in the ring.

Posted September 20, 2013 4:00 pm 


malachi

Ward beat Froch and Kessler both, eeeazy….yuuup!

Posted September 20, 2013 3:42 pm 


malachi

Bout time the king has returned to stake his claim as ruler,lets goo Ward!! and for the record,trying to diss the proven Champ in this division is lame yoouu sisssyyyss haha!..yezzir!

Posted September 20, 2013 3:37 pm 


Caper

Im not the biggest fan of Andre Ward but its sad to see boxing fans not giving him his due respect, the kid is a student of the game he’s resilient, intelligent and skilled. The sweet science is usually based on these traits and though everyone is entitled to their own opinion the perspective from many fights fans takes on more of a brutal caveman man vs man approach instead of recognizing the art of structured combat.

Posted September 20, 2013 3:30 pm 


Anonymous

Andre ‘Boring’ Ward the SMW version of Fraud Mayweather.

Just like Mayweather, he only fights at home.

Thank goodness we don’t have to watch Ward v Mayweather it would be the most boring fight in the history of the sport.

Enjoy your certain victory Ward. Hardly anyone will watch it again.

Posted September 20, 2013 3:24 pm 


Boxer

Finally we get to seethe real p4p king fighting again!

Posted September 20, 2013 2:35 pm 


Jaguar

“Andre Ward makes his highly anticipated return”…. with the greatest of respect…. lol…

Posted September 20, 2013 2:32 pm 



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