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Exiled Yank is correct. Oscar raves about all his fighters. didn’t he say Canelo Alvarez is the best boxer ever or going to be the best boxer ever before the Mayweather debacle? After the Mayweather fight, I favor Chavez Jr over Alvarez in a fight at 160. Canelo has the tools but not the smarts. Trying to box a jedi boxer in Mayweather was real dumb strategy. Chavez Jr would let it all hang out like he did the last round against Sergio, something Canelo apparently can’t do. whatever Oscar is smoking, give us some.

Posted October 24, 2013 12:49 am 


The class act in this division is Golovkin, have to agree with Tark, this guy is special, he has it all, anyone that doesn’t see this knows little about boxing. Even though he supposedly has a lousy defence ( where the hell did that myth emerge from? ) and let’s see if his chin stands up once he’s hit by a puncher, got a horrible feeling for his adversaries, he’s still going to be standing right in front of you.
Quillan can’t back this guy up, another easy night for GGG.
I tell you Stevens has a better chance than the rest of them.
Golovkin all the way!!!

Posted October 8, 2013 4:35 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Thank you Brother Lion King. I can assure you it won’t be hurting anywhere near as much as that dude’s mother’s ass if I get my hands on her. lol

Posted July 13, 2013 9:34 am 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

LOL…Gonzo. My stomach is hurting from that one.

Posted July 12, 2013 6:57 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn. Best Poster on This site? You Know God Damn Well I Am

This Brother Hidalgo, King Daddy G is packing pure thunder in those gloves of his. Other than myself, there are very few men who are built to withstand the kind of punishment he can dish out. It would be awesome to see him detonate his bombs on the paper mache mandible of that wretched spunk-splattered faux Christian charlatan SOG.

Posted July 12, 2013 10:57 am 


“The only reason his pro resume isn’t better is because, duh, he’s been flat out ducked and avoided by almost every top fighter in the middleweight division, ” And the reason he’s been ducked is because GGG truly possesses one-punch KO power. He has demonstrated that over and over and over. There’s not a champion or top contender out there that wants to experience that kind of power. Not even once. But they’re gonna have to fight him sooner or later or forfeit their titles.

Posted July 11, 2013 11:32 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

And Breland wasn’t ducked by all the best fighters in his division either.

Posted July 11, 2013 6:05 am 


People always bring up GGG amateur record. Look at Mark Brelands amateurs record and that will show you the amateur. Record isn’t all that. But I also think GGg is the best middleweight

Posted July 10, 2013 6:46 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Edit> people with the intellectual capability that makes retarded bonobos look like Gonzo the Dragonborn

Posted July 10, 2013 12:50 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Edit from my earlier post> minor indiscretion, not discretion.

Most of my time on here is spent reading my own posts over and over again. I know many others do that with my posts too.

Posted July 10, 2013 12:45 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Kind Daddy Golovkin the most feared and avoided fighter in all of boxing.

King Daddy Gonzo the most feared and avoided debater on the entire Internet.

Real talk.

Posted July 10, 2013 12:32 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

#1 lol

Posted July 10, 2013 12:30 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

I hope your entire family dies tonight.

Posted July 10, 2013 12:28 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

What’s your ESB ranking by the way? I’m #1, and the #1 by a country mile too.

In fact, I’ve amassed so many ranking points during my tenure on here I can even donate 90% of them away and still sit atop of the ESB rankings by a huge margin.

Here you can have a thousand of mine gratis

1000 ESB ranking points

Posted July 10, 2013 12:28 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

OK, thanks for explaining that FA. For a minute I thought that mod who’d been deleting my posts so that he could steal my jokes was back on the prowl. lol

Posted July 10, 2013 12:03 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Lucian Bute
Andre Dirrell
Daniel Geale
Matt Korobov
Andy Lee
Yordanis Despaigne

And a whole host of top amateurs

Matthew Macklin
Grzegorz Proksa
Gabriel Rosado
Ian Gardner
Kassim Ouma
And he scored brutal one-punch KOs over teak-tough foes like Lajuan Simon and Nobuhiro Ishida in scintillating fashion too.

Posted July 10, 2013 12:00 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Edit> Almost as if the realization of the enormity of the mistake you were making in daring to stand up to the best poster on here suddenly dawned on you

Posted July 10, 2013 11:48 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

You forgot to mention tacky god-awful bilingual pop songs too Brother Mongrel.

Posted July 10, 2013 11:38 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Thank you brother Hidalgo.. There are multiple reasons why I am widely considered the best poster on here. I’m not just a debater par excellence and a Renaissance Man, I’m also the possessor of a razor sharp wit and great comedic talent too.

Posted July 10, 2013 11:35 am 


Jeff Lacy seemed like a very very powerful fighter that everyone talked about but supposedly fighters avoided that is, until he was beat down, schooled, humiliated and hurt by Calzaghe. This could be what is waiting for GGG. GGG “seems” good but he is also untested against the very best. If GGG has no qualms about mentioning Floyds name….he certainly should have no problem with Ward’s name either. Besides, Floyd max’s out at 152 and GGG should have NO problem going up 8lbs.

Posted July 10, 2013 10:36 am 


Actually, I see Good sees quite well.

Posted July 10, 2013 8:36 am 


I fed up with the crap Oscar spews. Does he really expect any knowledgeable fan to believe this nonsense?

Posted July 10, 2013 8:34 am 

I see Good

Leave QUINLIN alone, he NO MATCH for GGG.. GGG has over 400 AMATURE fights hes poliSH compare to Quinlin. GGG would KNOCK his ASS clear back to KHAZIGSTAN. ha ha I want to see GGG go after WARD…. Hes the PRIZE… Ward will avoid GGG like Cherrypicker AVOIDED PACMAN

Posted July 9, 2013 11:25 pm 


De la Hoya is full of it,… Period.

Posted July 9, 2013 11:00 pm 


Qullin vs Golovkin would be a good fight, though I’d pick GGG to take it.
ODH is just being a dog and making roadblocks in an attempt to stop people linking Quillin’s name with Golovkin as a potential opponent.

Posted July 9, 2013 10:35 pm 


That is true. Quillins can crack. And that is what would make this fight so interesting. Can GGG take a punch from Quillin. Quillin can counter punch quickly also. I still think GGG beats him but this fight would be fun while it lasted.

Posted July 9, 2013 9:49 pm 

Tomato Can

From what I’ve seen of both fighters, GGG is the better fighter, but I wouldn’t just write off Quilling. I would live to see that fight.

Posted July 9, 2013 8:19 pm 


“GGG would destory Quillin with little effort.” Don’t think so.

Posted July 9, 2013 8:15 pm 

Tyrone Jones

2nd best

Posted July 9, 2013 8:00 pm 


I heard Sanchez refer too GGG putting a hurting on Jr Chavez a while ago …Tiz sparring though the psychologicals of getting your backside handed to you in der sparring can be life lasting …….

Posted July 9, 2013 6:12 pm 


Squared Circle, just for the record, I’m NOT the same Anonymous.

Posted July 9, 2013 5:18 pm 


Scuared Circle, just for the record, I’m NOT

Posted July 9, 2013 5:16 pm 


charly manson, are you ok ? LOL

Posted July 9, 2013 5:14 pm 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)


Agree to meet me in person like a man MFer and I’ll crush your F’ing skull. Real Talk!

Posted July 9, 2013 4:37 pm 


Looks like De La Hoya has lost confidence in this fighter.

he says his fighter is the best then he says that oh I need to See Golovkin against N’Dam N’Jikam, who Kid Chocolate Beat.

The problem here is that De La Hoya is telling everyone that Quillin can’t beat GGG and

If he really beats N’Dam then there won’t be a fight between the two.

Well we Already know that Golovkin would wipe the floor with these two.

That the fight won’t be made because of the silly Golden Boy BS.

Posted July 9, 2013 4:36 pm 


Manson… You’re so decrepit I’m amazed you can press the keys. Dalmer and Bundy are in Hell and waiting to torture you with supreme glee in their eyes.

Posted July 9, 2013 4:31 pm 

charly manson, state pen.

The world will explod when triple G hits the planet sotar, lava and hot greasy water will rule the heavans on fighters incest. He hoe hehe. Charly rules this planet. These gaurds worship me in thejoint. Charly manson on the under card at madison square gardens, im calling out ted bundy or jeffry dalmer. Lets get it on.

Posted July 9, 2013 4:18 pm 

ricky ricardo baba loo

I will perform my babaloo song at the pre fight press con… if triple g fights kid choc… lucy you got some splanin to do.

Posted July 9, 2013 4:12 pm 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

3G will outbox and destroy Chocolate, Maravilla, Chavez, Murray, Geale, Barker, Sturm or any other MW you put in front of him.

MARK MY WORDS and remember my Name, boxing fans!

Posted July 9, 2013 4:08 pm 


Quillin has no jab… He’s an extremely tense puncher with wide holes in his defense.. The first guy he fights with a jab and good power will school him.

Martinez may be too old to do the job anymore, but he would be winning after 8 rounds… GGG would destory Quillin with little effort.

Posted July 9, 2013 3:47 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Thanks Gonzo the Dragonborn, I’ll check out the story. BTW ESB’s software is jacked. Same thing happens to me. Now I copy my comments before posting because half the time they won’t post. It’s idiotic we must handicap for the website’s malfunctions.

Posted July 9, 2013 3:04 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

I just typed out about three in response to the dog-brained tuna below me

Posted July 9, 2013 2:31 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

FA.. Boxing writer Doug Fischer among others.

There’s an article he wrote about Golovkin called ‘Gym notes: Alvarez, Golovkin worth driving up a mountain to see’

Posted July 9, 2013 2:13 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Angulo had to get on his bike against Golovkin, which was just bizarre to see.” – Interesting. Gonzo, what’s the source of those sparring quotes?

Posted July 9, 2013 2:09 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Bozo’s sibling? What was it that lead you to believe that line was going to be funny?

Posted July 9, 2013 2:06 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Now you know why they call me the Dragonborn.

Posted July 9, 2013 2:03 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

You just got dealt with by the best in the business.

Posted July 9, 2013 2:02 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

The end.

Posted July 9, 2013 2:01 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

The 30-year-old Kazakhstan native has made The Summit boxing gym his home base for the past two years and despite two world titles, finding marquee names to enter the ring against him are futile.

One reason may be the crushing defeat he gave the Polish middleweight Grzegorz Proksa a few months ago. Until he met Golovkin, the talented fighter had never touched the canvas. That night he was a regular frequent flyer customer.

Another reason might be the pain he inflicts on sparring partners of all sizes. Whether it’s in the shadows of Big Bear or the bright lights of Hollywood, the guys who enter the ring with Golovkin usually don’t emerge intact.

“He’s run heavyweights out of the gym,” said Sanchez. “When he sparred Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. a month ago, he was blasting him all over the ring. And he was only using 60 percent of what he can do. Really.”

Even heavyweights prefer sparring other heavyweights rather than take Golovkin punishment.

“Nobody lasts long with Gennady,” says Sanchez, who’s trained former world champions like Terry Norris, Miguel Angel Gonzalez and Lupe Aquino to name a few. “Sometimes he takes it easy on guys, but I don’t like him to do that.”

Posted July 9, 2013 1:57 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

”Alfredo Angulo is a very strong, very competitive, prideful guy who has a great team behind him, but Golovkin is on another level,” said Garcia, who says he watched three sparring sessions between the two over the course of one week. “His strength, his demeanor, his skill, everything he did in there was just too much for Angulo, which surprised the hell out of me.

“I’ve seen Angulo spar many times before and he‘s always the one doing the hurting. He’s so damn tough I’ve never seen him take a step back, let alone get hurt. I was expecting him to test this Golovkin guy that I’d never seen before, but ‘Superman’ was in there taking and giving, and he hurt Angulo a couple times, especially to the body. Angulo had to get on his bike against Golovkin, which was just bizarre to see.”

Posted July 9, 2013 1:55 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

”A Wild Card regular who spotted me at the Alvarez-Hatton fight in Anaheim, Calif., this past March whispered that he saw Golovkin give undefeated super middleweight prospect Peter Quillin all he could handle at Roach’s famous boxing club.”

Posted July 9, 2013 1:54 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

”A few months later I got a phone call from the producer of a Spanish-language sports show, who swore that he witnessed Golovkin “embarrass” Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the Wild Card gym during an open workout held for the Latino media a few weeks before the unbeaten middleweight pulled out of scheduled Dec. 4 card.”

Posted July 9, 2013 1:54 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

N’Dam has straight up ducked King Daddy G on numerous occasions, he didn’t have a problem getting in there with Kid Chocolate though. He would’ve beaten him too had he had a morsel of a brain cell in that thick head of his. He was boxing Quillin’s head off for most of that fight. The only reason he kept on getting dropped is because he stupidly kept electing to trade with Quillin after he’d been badly hurt.

Posted July 9, 2013 1:50 pm 


Well gonzo ( bozo’s sibling?), if you beleive what you say, prove it because I dont’ believe a word of it.

Posted July 9, 2013 1:47 pm 


Quillin also is an unproven comodity for a so called champioin, I mean, what top fighters and champions has he fought? Answer? No one!! GGG, like Quillin, both hold belts so GGG doesn’t have to fight anyone to prove to Oscar he’s “worthy” of a fight against Quillin. They’re both champions so they should both fight if they each want it. I would think Oscar is afraid of one of his money makers losing so by GGG fighting someone before fighting Quillin, as Oscar would prefer, he can gage whether or not to risk Quillin’s title. Oscar loves to preach about what is wrong with the sport but fails to see that his actions contribute to the ongoing BS currently in the sport, namely, champions failing to fight champions. GGG is established and needs no introduction. It’s up to Quillin to take his testosterone shots, man up, and fight GGG or stop talking smack via ODLH.

Posted July 9, 2013 1:38 pm 


I agree with Oscar that Quillin is the best MW right now. I only rank him above Maravilla because of the effects of Father Time on Maravilla and I don’t believe Chavez Jr. can make 160 anymore. I’ve said it before that both Quillin and Chavez Jr. beats GGG. Chavez Jr. has recently called out GGG at 168 and I don’t believe GGG’s team will allow that fight to happen for Chavez Jr. would surely put a beating on him; however, I don’t think GGG should have to go to 168 to fight Jr., but I think Jr. can no longer make 160 which puts the light on Quillin as the best MW. GGG is damn good but all of his opponents to this point have been taylor made for him. He has yet to face someone with the speed and skills of Maravilla, or the strength of Chavez Jr. or Quillin. We have yet to see if GGG can fight while backing up and he would surely be forced backwards against the bullying Chavez Jr. I think GGG/Quillin is more of an even match up, but I give Quillin the slightest of an edge for strength. So, in conclusion I say Maravilla of 3-4 years ago beats them all, If Chavez Jr. can still make 160 he beats GGG, Quillin and this older version of Maravilla, while GGG/Quillin is a pick’em fight in which I pick Quillin. Having said that I know “Tark and his Bandwagon of Merry Men” will have a lot to say about this, but hopefully one day we will have a chance to test our knowledge on this matter.

Posted July 9, 2013 1:05 pm 


I usually agree with a lot of Oscars reasoning,but, this time Oscar you ARE wrong, I’ve seen Quillan fight a couple of times, he’s good and that’s it, good, he lacks that little extra to be outstanding, and I don’t think he will ever get it. In my opinion he’s as good as he’s ever going to be now, but, best of luck to him. I think all the talk is meant not to make a fight with GGG but to avoid it.

Posted July 9, 2013 12:54 pm 

Fight Aficionado

I saw Oscar’s tweet yesterday. It was too LOL for a reply. Is he on the blow again?

Posted July 9, 2013 12:11 pm 

Supreme Court

Bears, Adrian, Anonymous:
You made the same mistake Mit Romney did: never awake the sleeping giant…
Had you spent one day in college, you’d know the first step is to do the literature review…
You’d know there is a sleeping Anaconda here on ESB that swallows bold rednecks….
Iron beach: gone!
Chicago guy: gone!
Pinoys: gone!

The sleeping Giant strikes where it hurts the most: the belly beer and the empty skull…

Posted July 9, 2013 11:56 am 


Pundits tend to evaluate boxers emotionally instead of rationally… Few writers have any knowledge of the craft and carry their biases on their sleeves. They generally prefer the manly man brawler and toe-to-toe trader to the clever boxer. This leads to the type of odds that surface in Tyson’s fights with Douglas and Holyfield, and goes back to Corbett-Sullivan.

Vrtually every pundit thought Leonard was going to be overpowered and slaughtered when he came back from a 3-year layoff to fight Hagler. They also thought Leonard would have few problems with Terry Norris. Group Think takes over. Writers fall into line with public consensus. Few want to risk being the odd duck who picks the underdog. Their contempt for underdogs is usually laced with sarcastic put downs like “flat footed” … “punching bag” … “four round fighter” … “glass chinned” … “green” … “ancient” … “plodding” whatever. After an upset they seldom praise the victor. Their contempt is turned on the loser. Boxing has become like politics in the sheer amount of vitriolic bile and hatred that’s spewed out.

Many thought Martinez was too short to deal with the 6’2″ Pavlik or the rangy Paul Williams. A prime Martinez would probably have outboxed Hagler with a combination of speed, power, skill and smarts—much like Leonard did. He probably would have beaten pedestrian middleweight champs like Taylor, Benvenuti, LaMotta, Giardello, and Olson with his speed and trickery. But Golovkin is a special middleweight. I haven’t seen anyone with his combination of skills and power emerge before.

Posted July 9, 2013 11:35 am 

Exiled Yank

DLH has definitely made the transformation from boxer to promoter, You just can’t believe anything he says anymore.

Posted July 9, 2013 11:24 am 

Tomato Can

By the way, I doubt. Martinez knows who Quilling or GGG are. He should keep it that way too.

Posted July 9, 2013 11:10 am 

Tomato Can

GGG, is a heck of a fighter, and Quilling is a huge MW, I would live to see them fight.

Posted July 9, 2013 11:07 am 


I think Quillin would go a full 12 rounds with Golovkin but he’d get beat up a bit in the process, maybe knocked down even once or twice. Golovkin would also be sporting a couple of mouses, cuts and numerous bruises by the end of the fight, but Golovkin would pull off a UD win. Kid Chocolate has very good speed, has much better than average boxing skills–he displayed those nicely in his fight with Winky Wrigh–and decent power in both hands. He seems to have matured a lot–ringwise–since he fought
McEwan. There was a lot of hoopla made about N’dikam before his fight with Quillin but the Kid pretty much made him look ineffective. No doubt the African is very tough, but he had no answer for Quillins superior speed, boxing skills, and footwork. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Golovkin keeps destroying them…

Posted July 9, 2013 10:50 am 

Edgar Guevara

DLH, make the fight and find out who is going to be your PPV fighter. Quillin or Canelo?

Posted July 9, 2013 10:38 am 


who is quillen?

Posted July 9, 2013 10:21 am 


To all you Martinez haters, I agree he’s past his prime & should retire but, the record of his lst 5 opponents is 198-4. No other current middleweight has done that.

Posted July 9, 2013 10:01 am 

Pat Mustard

Golden Girl doesn’t half talk garbage. This is the man who is saying Canelo has an excellent chance against Mayweather (he says that about every Mayweather opponent, garbage salesman).

Put the Chocolate Kid in with Triple G and see what happens.

Posted July 9, 2013 9:59 am 



Posted July 9, 2013 9:52 am 


GGG is the king of the Middleweight Division unless someone else proves otherwise.frankly, no one in that division can until he moves up and fights Ward which will be a classic boxing match actually a chess match. I favour Ward though, due to better skillset and footwork.

Posted July 9, 2013 9:45 am 

Boxing 101

@Brazilian Boxing Fan:

You almost made me fall off my chair with your last comment.

Sergio is done! his biggest win came to a B- fighter (Chavez Jr). Serigo lost to Murray! When you get your ass handed to you by a tune-up fighter, you should consider putting in your 2-week notice! YOU’RE DONE!

Golovkin is one hell of a monster! I can’t see anyone at 160 putting a hurt on this guy.

Posted July 9, 2013 9:41 am 

Brazilian Boxing Fan

The Number 1 Middleweight is Sergio Martinez.

Posted July 9, 2013 8:31 am 


SOG and GGG should never be placed in the same sentence. GGG has done squat to qualify that matchup. Ward would make this kid look like an amateur. How many of you thought he would get bullied by Froch and Kessler. What did he do to them? You guys are dumb. GGG looks great against 160 pounders he will look very ordinary against 168 pounders trust me.

Posted July 9, 2013 8:03 am 


hahahaha ……scared……scared……scared……scared……scared!!!

fight will never be made, quillen will retire

Posted July 9, 2013 7:54 am 


How is Martinez number when he lost his last fight? Thanks to home cooking he got the decision but lost the fight we all saw it happen. Quillin will be KOed in 3 by GGG, really. You must be a moron. Have seen Kid Chocolate fight? Same morons who believe that Gennady will beat Ward. Stupid, stupid. ODLH says what any promoter is supposed to say end of story. GGG will have his hands full with Quillin.

Posted July 9, 2013 7:53 am 


to boxing barlow:

How can 3G be more relentless in pursuing Martinez, bring some soup to his hospital bed?

If Martinez and 3G fought, who would be favored to win?

Why does it matter that Martinez beat the guy who beat the guy? He is still what he is today, regardless of who he beat 3 years ago.

Doesn’t matter who you WERE. Matters who you ARE. As they sale, a salesman is only as good as his NEXT sale. Not even last.

Posted July 9, 2013 7:42 am 

third world

of course de la hoya is going to say’s one of his fighters.$$$$$$ is the name of this game.i think this fight is a good litmus test. gennedy vs. p.quillen is a great fight.kid chocolate is not a b fighter.we need to see how ggg deals w/a good boxer with a chin and movement before the jury returns with a verdict.ggg and quillen are the best middleweights.

Posted July 9, 2013 7:20 am 


Ha ha I’m back

Posted July 9, 2013 7:14 am 

boxing barlow

As good as I think GGG is, the fact is we still only ‘think’ GGG is maybe the best middle out there currently. That title of best middleweight still sits with Martinez. Martinez is the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy who was the undisputed middleweight champion of the world, and I think its wrong for fans to just jump ship and declare a new number one in the division when the true number one has not lost a fight yet. This whole situation reminds me a lot of the position Bute was in after the super six when everyone was convinced that Bute was undoubtedly number two in the division when he had avioded the competetion and in turn avioded the top fighters in his division. yet people based their ranking on him fighting b level fighters rather than the likes of Froch and Kessler who had proven themselves. As far as I’m concerned GGG should now be relentlass in his persuit of Martinez as that is the only fight which will prove him as the number one in the division.

Posted July 9, 2013 6:23 am 


small ….

Posted July 9, 2013 6:21 am 


LOL one minute some of you here are touting GGG as the next savior ….Now your saying his to smell for 168 LMAO get a grip Gennady would be on even term with most guys at 168 and that power he has is enough to even up an inch or 2 in height and or reach ………….

Posted July 9, 2013 6:21 am 

mr gav

DLh is an idiot. If he thinks so much of qullin and so little of ggg why not make the fight and have all the spot light on qullin? This however would make a great fight and answer a lot of questions but I believe ggg is the most avoided fighter on the planet it’s why he will find it hard to fight good great fighters when they or management avoid him

Posted July 9, 2013 6:08 am 

Edgar Guevara

Any of these guys, want their market value to go up and become PPV celebrity. This is the fight that has to happen to make A fighters fight each other. If DLH thinks Quillin has it don’t hesitate, make the fight happen against Golovkin. This is a fight of undefeated champion, prime time. HBO and Showtime can show the fight at the same time. DLH make the fight happen.

Posted July 9, 2013 4:48 am 

Mick the Marmalizer

Give it 18-24 months & the UK’s Billy Joe Saunders is gonna be right in the equation @ 160Lb. He’s maybe #3 behind Martin Murray & Darren Barker in the UK & would quite likely take out Matthew Macklin now.

Posted July 9, 2013 4:00 am 

Mick the Marmalizer

Murderman: Agreed Golovkin’s far better off cleaning up @ 160Lb, 168 may well be a jump to far for him. eight pounds is four bags of suger & quite a leap. As I mentioned in my last post if ODLH can make it then let’s see GGG/Quillen before the years out. Someone’s 0 would have to go!

Posted July 9, 2013 3:56 am 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

murderman: Right on the money that 3G is NOT a big MW. He can easily make 154lbs and that’s why he wants to fight FMJ and/or Canelo.

He has said that he’ll willing to take Champion-level fights at 168lbs as well because they’ve been having an extremely hard time getting the top dogs to sign contracts at 160lbs. He has said that he would like to fight Ward, so that fight will probably eventually take place at Super MW. I’m a big Ward fan as well, so that would be a really exciting fight for me, personally.

Posted July 9, 2013 3:52 am 

Mick the Marmalizer

Money where the mouth is then Oscar! Golovkin has to be the #1 in the World @ 160Lb, so make the fight. I agree Quillin’s good, but he’s gotta prove your claim. Having said that IBF champion Daniel Geales no slouch either, so between these 3 a shed load of ca$h can be made within the next 12-18 months, by which time S.G.Martinez could be injury free & make the numbers up! It’s all well & good for ODLH to make these comments, but let’s see him make the fights!

Posted July 9, 2013 3:50 am 


@hookoffthejab – ggg is not really big for a mw. He will def be a small smw. He may have a hard time competing against guys at 168 like ward, stevenson especially if his power does go to 168 w him. Sometimes when fighter move up they dont bring their punch w them. If ggg clears out 160, maybe 154 is a better option than 168. I think he will struggle at 168. He just may be too small for 168

Posted July 9, 2013 3:42 am 


Muderman why would GGG move “down” to 154 after cleaning out 160 ? Theres nothing there Money & Saul wont touch him with your pecker …..All the $$ & glory is at 168 , clean out the middleweight division YES move down to 154 NO ..Move up to 168 though he better make it quick because the CLOCK shes a ticking …………….

Posted July 9, 2013 3:37 am 


This is silly. N’dam publicly admitted he was avoiding Golovkin in 2011. Enough said.

Posted July 9, 2013 3:18 am 


Quillin record isnt really that impressive either. Only difference is the best at mw dont want to see triple g. Quillin has been semi protected by gbp. However they can keep running from triple g. Lets see gbp put their money where their mouths are n make the fight. However if triple moves up to 168 ward with his length, skills, n ring general ship will ud or md him. Triple should clean out 160. Then maybe drop down n clean out 154

Posted July 9, 2013 2:43 am 


De La Hoya is correct. Too many people are underestimating Quillin, but I will tell you right now, Quillin is the best middleweight in the world. He continues to improve and his power is unquestionable. Martinez wanted no part of him, and if GGG thinks he can take him, make the fight. He Quillin did spar with Chavez jr and GGG both, and gives them both compliments, but he knows he can beat both and by KO. Trust me on this one. GGG is a fantastic fighter, but he can’t and won’t handle Quillin’s power, and believe me, he will get hit. Someone make that fight, and you’ll see what I mean. A well trained eye sees exactly what I see.

Posted July 9, 2013 2:23 am 


It’s not confidence… He’s hyping his guy… He’s always predicting Golden Boy fighters are going to beat everybody under the sun.

Posted July 9, 2013 1:52 am 


Gennady stops Kid Chocolate. I like Oscar’s confidence though.

Posted July 9, 2013 1:30 am 


GGG is best mw at the moment, but @168, there’s Ward who would win a UD vs. GGG, and there’s Froch who would go to total war with GGG. So Triple G should stay at 160 and take all the belts.

Posted July 9, 2013 1:17 am 

I see Good

REAL DEAL After GGG DESTROY MACKLIN He WANTS to UNIFY the BELTS He said so on TV.. Hmmmmmm Lets see the Quinlins, Martinez and Glea answer him ..I DOUBT that. GGG will have to move up to 168 he could clean out that division also.. Hes the FUTURE not the WARDS and FROCHS QUINLINS Gleas etc… You WONT see any belt holders set up. FROCH does put his fists up with his mouth hes no chicken. Theres LOTS of cherrypickers out there in the 160 168 pound division.

Posted July 9, 2013 1:02 am 


Let GGG make the P4P list before putting him in with Ward. Ward is #2 P4P. GGG vs Chavez Jr. would be NICE. Roach trained Fighters need guys that come forward with little to no lateral movement.

Posted July 9, 2013 12:58 am 

I see Good

Just finish watching Friday Night Fights… Teddy Atlas Killsme.. Oh TRIPLE G they are talking about. Atlas says GGG should fight Martinez, He says GGG would KO Martinez. Atlas then says Chavez Jr. would be a good match up, then he says FROCH that would be brutal…. NEVER mention QUINLAN NEVER mentions WARD. hmmmmmm Why Because ggg is to DANGEROUS the Belts belong to WARD and Quinlin DONT want the USA to LOSE them.. They will ALL fight GGG and LOSE including CANELO…. Watch WARD AVOID GGG like GGG wis HIV positive. Yes its always the GREATS, Cherrypicker and WARD that wont FIGHT the best. GGG is WARDS nightmare, Just like PACMAN was Cherrypickers. I can see it comming

Posted July 9, 2013 12:52 am 


Quillen has been wanting to fight anybody. He called out Martinez and all Martinez said was who is that. Come on now, Martinez knew exactly who he was while Martinez was fighting lesser comp. You are correct in what you where saying about being the champ. Martinez is the champ but I think GGG is the best middleweight.

Posted July 9, 2013 12:44 am 


Being a world champ when there are so many belts and titles out there does not necessarily mean a fighter is top tier A level material. I have nothing against Quillin. But I don’t see him beating any of the top comp at 160. I just don’t see it. His management is very very selective as to whom they match him up with. I believe they wanted a American based Middleweight Champ. Initially Danny Jacobs was the chosen one. They stripped Martinez of his belt and then made the Jacobs/Pirog fight in which the winner would be handed that belt. Pirog was a unknown commodity at the time while Jacobs had several highlight real type knockouts. The boxing powers that be thought A new American star would be born. Unfortunately for them, Pirog put Jacobs to sleep in the 5th or 6th round and that was the end of that. I think moving foward, we will see Quillin fight plenty of Danny Jacobs type guys.

To be honest, I see him struggling and mabye even losing to the Darren Barkers and Mathew Macklin’s of the world.

Posted July 9, 2013 12:35 am 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

ODLH is OFF with his prediction here and it’s definitely NOT the first time.

3G is definitely the very best MW in the world and this will be proven over the next 1-2 years. MARK MY WORDS!

However, Chocolate is very talented fighter in his own right, but his resume is still weak. I would rank Qullin as the next best MW in the world behind 3G.
Maravilla is past it and his days are numbered. Chavez always was overhyped because he’s been in the Gigantic shadow of his legendary father. I think that Chavez will move up to Super MW real soon anyway, as I think he’s going to have tremendous problems continuing to make 160lbs.

Real talk.

Posted July 9, 2013 12:34 am 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

AnonyMouse: Shut your hole you cowardly POS before I come CRUSH you just like a mouse!

Posted July 9, 2013 12:27 am 

The Real Deal

Geale cleans out the division on workrate, solid chin, humility and allround nice guy attributes. He might even get to prove it if they stop forcing him to take mandatorys and unify titles instead.

Posted July 8, 2013 11:10 pm 

Exiled Yank

Box – great post. It’s time for G3 and Martinez to fight. Boxing Skill v freakish power… my favorite type of match.

Posted July 8, 2013 11:00 pm 


Both quillin and golovkin need to step up. for all his appeared skill and power we’ve only seen GGG beat b grade middleweights in proska and Matthew “Jamie moore knocked me out before Martinez did” Macklin and blown up super welters (b grade super welters at that) like Rosado and ishida. And Quillin is probably more untested.

Posted July 8, 2013 10:50 pm 


Quillin should fight Macklin, that would be a good fight.

Posted July 8, 2013 10:43 pm 


GGG while it last but sure would be fun to watch

Posted July 8, 2013 10:35 pm 


So quillin vs Ggg coming soon? Ill take GGG! Who do yall like? Opinions please!

Posted July 8, 2013 10:33 pm 


He may or may not but I still wanna see the fight. Will be good while it last. Quillen punches hard also

Posted July 8, 2013 10:20 pm 



Posted July 8, 2013 10:15 pm 


Triple G would stop Quilling in 2 or 3 rounds.

Posted July 8, 2013 10:14 pm 


Quillin is obviously an “A” level fighter… He wouldn’t be an undefeated World Champion if he were merely a “B” level guy. He’s a good boxer and a great puncher… But Golovkin is smoother, sharper, moves better, defends better, and punches harder… I believe GGG gets Quillin out before the final bell.. Suggesting GGG fight some unknown pug who Quillin beat is a typical De La Hoya ploy..

Obviously Quillin and Martinez’s associates are going to say they would beat Golovkin… De La Hoya said Hatton and Ortiz were going to beat Floyd — among other people he said were going to beat Floyd.

Of Floyd-Mosley he said, “There’s going to be a knockout.. I know it.”

Posted July 8, 2013 10:03 pm 


Quillen is definitely a top middleweight that is why Martinez wants no part of him. But GGG is the best middleweight in my opinion

Posted July 8, 2013 9:53 pm 


LOL!!!!!! Quillin is a B Level fighter at best. Seems like a good guy. But without a doubt the weakest of any of the current Middleweight Champs. 1) Martinez 2) Golovkin (even though I think Golovkin will beat Martinez when they fight, you still have to give Martinez the number 1 slot as of now because he has not been defeated) 3) Geale 4) Quillin.

Posted July 8, 2013 9:48 pm 


Easy work for Triple G

Posted July 8, 2013 9:47 pm 


Choco Bon Bon is good so let the match making begin …………

Posted July 8, 2013 9:46 pm 


Triple G would make easy work of Quillin.

Posted July 8, 2013 9:44 pm 

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