Yes Floyd will fight a different fight next time. He carried Maidana the first time, the second time he will not be playing and will win even more convincingly than the first time. More lateral movement and distance. Maidana will touch him up much less this time around.Posted July 13, 2014 12:33 pm
Yes, youve figured me out! I am Tark the Racist Russian – it is the MAIN reason for my LOVE of the Klits!!! Please join my racist organization so we can develop our HATE together, I would be very thankful for the converts.
Luv Tark.Posted July 13, 2014 3:01 am
I’m the coward?? He’s the one who wouldn’t take the test scared of needles…Posted July 10, 2014 5:23 am
How about Pacquiao next? … CowardPosted July 10, 2014 3:51 am
FLOYD says.., “WTF is Corales, Castillo twice, Corley, Mitchell, Gotti, DeLaHoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Alverez, Guerrero, Maidana”
Certainly not legacy fights … except maybe Cotto
Marquez was too small when you fought him… Mosley too old… Hatton too inept… De La Hoya too much of a punching bag considering what Pacquiao did to him… Guerrero too inept… Maidana too crude… Alvarez too green… Don’t joke around with guys like Gatti, Corley, Castillo, and Mitchell…anybody might beat them — Cotto is a legacy fight and that’s it.
So legacy fights:
Erislandy Lara… Manny Pacquiao… Shawn Porter… Keith Thurman… and Kell Brook are possible legacy fights
Pacquiao is a legacy fight regardless of what… Lara is a legacy fight if he beats Canelo comprehensively… The winner of Porter v Brook is a legacy fight… Thurman is a legacy fight if he beats somebody like Porter, Pacman, or Brook impressive in the next year of so.Posted July 8, 2014 9:49 pm
Lion King says Floyd “And he’s still poor” Really?? Last I heard Forbes had him #1 sports athlete in the world over Tiger Woods. Lion King are you sniffing glue??Posted July 7, 2014 5:19 am
Nobody cares about the if’s and what if’s…i’m 46-0 soon to be 47-0! oh with $200M dollars in my pocket. lolPosted July 6, 2014 1:50 pm
If Floyd couldn’t use the ropes he get his a$$ kicked or all his opponents would see is his back.Posted July 6, 2014 11:35 am
18 fights in 12 years. 1 1/2 fights a year on average. GOAT my A$$!!Posted July 6, 2014 11:27 am
“but it’s not much, when you consider that it’s not Floyd’s first rematch,”
Floyd hasn’t had a rematch since his second fight with Castillo. That’s 12 years and 18 fights ago.Posted July 6, 2014 11:26 am
and Pac is scared of of a harmless, random, mutually applied OST.Posted July 6, 2014 6:59 am
Floyd is scared of Pacman! Plain and simple! Floyd can make a fight with much harder puncher Maidana but not Pacman.Posted July 6, 2014 5:50 am
te tumbo – they’re called Pacturds for a reason.Posted July 6, 2014 1:57 am
Jonn E. JaGozza: Lol… since when does Floyd need to “hurt” you? And what do you mean “early and no clowning around.” You’ve already made some critical lapses in logic. The only thing that is going for Maidana is that Floyd is pushing 40. If his legs aren’t as shot as they seem, along with other of his physical attributes, then it could be tougher, but if he’s thoroughly prepared, as he always is, and with a good fight plan, it will be an easier bout. He won the last one and to me swept the last 7 rounds, I don’t know what Maidana can do to adjust, the entire “most confidence” thing is something, but it’s not much, when you consider that it’s not Floyd’s first rematch, and we have seen how Floyd adjust. There is literally nothing more Maidana can do to win, he tried everything and had a ref that let him throw intentional low blows, rabbit punches, launching tackles, headbutts, and brutal UFC armbars. There is nothing more that Maidana can bring, and everything he brought wasn’t good enough. It shuoldn’t be good enough the second time around. I’ll definitely bet you that. Reply what you want, but you don’t have to agree… it will be shown in the bout.Posted July 5, 2014 8:39 pm
Jonn E. JaGozza
The next fight for Mayweather will be his toughest as Maidana will come thoroughly prepared and expecting to win as he has faced his foe before and now knows him better than he did before. Mayweather this time will have to fight often and early with no clowning around.. If Floyd can’t hurt him early in the fight, then i think it will go to Maidana .. Just my views .. Boxingdictionary.com ” The Language of the Ring “Posted July 5, 2014 8:31 pm
“Contrary to lying pieces os sht, Pacquiao acceded to Floyd’s position on testing and Floyd moved the goal posts…” Random, Harmless, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing IS the goal post. there is not movement to be made one way or the other. it is what it is. an anti-doping procedure to red-flag drug-cheats. nothing more or less. there is NOTHING to haggle or negotiate over . . unLess one fighter has something to hide. when will you drooling Pacmaniacs* final Get-It?!?Posted July 5, 2014 3:37 pm
Peej the tittle of the article on boxing news 24 is Roger Mayweather “floyd would whoop cotto again”. Floyd also announced he has a big surprise for may 2015 so Roger might be right. Canelo said hes taking that date most likely with Cotto so Floyd needs Pac.Posted July 5, 2014 7:17 am
Wow someone gave you extra lettuce in your v a g I n a. Eh PEEJ?Posted July 5, 2014 6:20 am
ESB WITHOUT TARK WOULD BE SHT.Posted July 5, 2014 6:01 am
ESB is Tarks world, he does nothing else. I pity the fool.Posted July 5, 2014 5:33 am
brza da originator
At this moment in time haymon is good for his dozen r so fighters but long term he will kill the sport . Competive match ups will keep boxing alive . The casual fan listens to what the hardcore fan has to say at the water cooler .I will be tellin everyone thst listens to me in the BX to ignore garcia salsa . F**k al haymon he blocked stevenson kovalev n ggg chavez . Please answer me one boxing fan whos glad this happened . Im all ears boxtra peej slim sredmond tetumbo
.Posted July 5, 2014 5:20 am
My legacy is already set you fools..Posted July 5, 2014 5:17 am
Tark–you lyin btch you will be watching like everybody else. lolPosted July 5, 2014 4:43 am
Not worth watching in my view. It’s a master boxer vs a fair boxer. Predictable as the sun rising.
The technically more proficient boxer always has the advantage in a rematch or rubber match: i.e. Mayweather-Castillo… Patterson-Johansson.
Cotto was a good boxer and he couldn’t beat Floyd… Trout is a very good boxer and boxed rings around Cotto… Lara is a master boxer and boxed the ears off Trout…
So in light of those 3 fights — who would make the best opponent for Floyd?Posted July 5, 2014 2:16 am
This is a good fight! Maidana providing the aggressive action to the best none action fighter in the world. Worth the time watching it on replay!Posted July 5, 2014 1:21 am
Village Genius I think you are the woman at subway and sounds to me like you just wanna be slapped around. But then that’s what BTICHs likePosted July 5, 2014 12:38 am
Roger has also stated he thinks that the Floyd vs Pac fight will happen. What I find funny is that when ever Floyd Sr and Roger talk about something they are always saying they don’t know what they are talking about or they don’t understand them and they are crack heads. When he comes out and says if there is enough money offered the. The fight will happen. All of a sudden he knows what he is talking about and people are running with what he said. I have yet to read that he said that so I don’t know.Posted July 5, 2014 12:36 am
Hey Floyd there this woman down at subway who never gives me enough meatballs in my sub.
Can you best her up for me?Posted July 5, 2014 12:11 am
Well… you still got your ass kicked, paid up like a good boy and apologized. Not only you, but Oscar, Richard, GB and the rest of them paid up and apologized for their egregious conduct and slander.
Now Floyd….. Why don’t you fight Pacman to get that court loss back? It’s a fight the whole world still wants. It’s a unification fight. It’s a risky fight but every fight carries a little risk at this level.
Also Lara if he kicks Canelo’s ass unanimously or by stoppage, and Porter if he kicks Brook’s ass. That could possibly make you 50-0 and the TBE. NOBODY’S ever done that.
Why not have some GOAT legacy fights to close it out?Posted July 5, 2014 12:07 am
Peej you cant just sit there and dismiss what Roger said to try to keep a debate open thats clearly over. Floyd has contradicted himself way to much. The guys a fraud proven once again.Posted July 4, 2014 11:10 pm
Yeh if canelo can get him 15-20 I think he will take it. Floyd won’t give out a whole lot this close to the end.Posted July 4, 2014 10:46 pm
My world is pretty damned full FAKE… I finished 4 assignments today, and it’s a holiday where I’m supposed to relax. I ran down to the SD airport to pick up a friend which took almost 2 hours. Plus I have to pick up a couple more people before we run off to see the fire works.. Plus I’m be up all night because I want to read a couple books people sent me, I’ll be seeing them tomorrow, and I have to take off at 7AM.Posted July 4, 2014 10:06 pm
I think Cotto made like 5 or 8 mil when he fought Floyd. If they do fight again Cotto will get more than thatPosted July 4, 2014 10:00 pm
I don’t think Roach and Arum are as close as people think. Remember a few years ago when Arum was trying to get Pac to go to a different trainer and drop Roach. They used to go at each other.Posted July 4, 2014 9:59 pm
Plus 10 mill was on the table v canelo. It will be alot more with the middle title, and I don’t see mayweather giving him a decent split he is not a legacy guy he is a businessmanPosted July 4, 2014 9:30 pm
Your right peej there is no contract but cotto said I’m with roach the rest of my career and roach and bob are close so I would think roach wont let mayweather bully them into anything that’s for surePosted July 4, 2014 9:25 pm
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Floyds ppv with canelo 2.2 without under 1 mill and they are still hiding the numbers. Pac v Bradley prob beat them that’s why :)Posted July 4, 2014 9:24 pm
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Ha ha another duck. To bad canelo will fight cotto the same day floyd fights and take all the ppvPosted July 4, 2014 9:20 pm
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Fight cotto for a middle title? When asked to meet GGG at 154 he said I am finishing my career at 147 but now cotto a guy he beat gets a middle title it’s ok? You stupid floydumbs quack quack quackPosted July 4, 2014 9:19 pm
Floyd is scared to fight Manny not unless he backstab Arum and leave.Posted July 4, 2014 9:16 pm
Floyd is scared to fight Manny if he takes 50/50 purse.Posted July 4, 2014 9:15 pm
Floyd: Floyd is scared to fight Manny with out OST! Scared!!!!!!Posted July 4, 2014 9:13 pm
Floyd is not fighting Cotto in a rematch. Floyd is scared of Freddy Rouch too.Posted July 4, 2014 9:08 pm
Cotto infant contracted to HBO neither. He can play both sides. I can see him fighting Cotto for the middleweight title but that is the only reason whyPosted July 4, 2014 8:17 pm
Floyd won’t fight him anyway he doesn’t like to fight people he convincingly beat the first time, he has bagged manny in the past for fighting guys two or three times.Posted July 4, 2014 8:13 pm
No he isn’t with top rank but he is with HBO Im pretty sure in some way.Posted July 4, 2014 8:10 pm
Roger can say whatever he wants. It is what Floyd decides. Now Cotto is not under contract with Top Rank. So if he wants to rematch Floyd then Top Rank will not be apart of itPosted July 4, 2014 8:06 pm
Blaze you are wasting time putting your support in Pac. Fact is he has to listen to Arum. Do some research and learn for yourself. Pac said he would take the test and Koncz says no we never agreed to that. Pac says he will take less money and Arum say no 50/50. If you actually do your research you will see thisPosted July 4, 2014 8:04 pm
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Floyd is the BEST CHERRY PICKER OF ALL TIME.Posted July 4, 2014 7:00 pm
REM.., “Floyd would … fight Cotto if ARUM offered the right amount of money.”
True enough.., Floyd already beat Cotto once.. Pacquaio knocked Cotto out.
Floyd won’t consider any Arum offer to fight Pacquiao… a much bigger fight… I’m just waiting so see who Cotto decides to fight next… Certainly not Gennady Golovkin.Posted July 4, 2014 6:17 pm
Now would this Floyd blind cult following either commit mass suicide (just kidding) so we can have our sport back or help us see Pac v Floyd before their in wheelchairs by forcing Floyd to do so. No i suspect y’all know Pac would embarrass Floyd also so your trying to protect him like he’s your cowardly boyfriend.Posted July 4, 2014 5:00 pm
Recently in a interview Roger said Floyd would be willing to fight Cotto if ARUM offered the right amount of money my jaw dropped. So they wont do business with Arum if it involves fighting Pac I guess huh. 1st it was testing, then testing didn’t matter because they’d never do business with Arum. Now they’ll fight Cotto under Arum for the right amount. You Floyd fans have no shame because Floyd keeps making y’all look silly lmao. Give it up TMT knows Pac will end the gimmick you guys haven’t caught on yet smh.Posted July 4, 2014 4:45 pm
FAKE Floyd…, You’re a liar. Pacquiao agreed to 14 days and Floyd moved the goal posts again.
Pacquiao finally said.., “I will test up to the day of the fight and even test between rounds if that’s what you need.” Floyd said I need a bigger share of the money.
Pacquiao said, “You can have a bigger share of the money, lets just fight.” .
Floyd then said, “NO Bob Arum. Get rid of him.”
It never ends… NEVER ENDS!!!
Floyd finally admitted he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao. He’s been interviewed many times and says Pacquiao just wants to fight him to pay off his tax bill.. Pacquiao had an answer for that too … Donate eveything to charity if that’s what Floyd wants so he doesn’t contribute to my wealth.
Only one (1) guy doesn’t want to do May-PacPosted July 4, 2014 4:24 pm
brza da originator
Expect stephen espinoza to get fired as soon as mayweathers contract is up after showtime lose 10s of million on the deal . Good luck to al haymon finding another guy runnin premium cable boxing who will buy joke fights like garcia salsa then . Hbo must be laughin right about nowPosted July 4, 2014 3:24 pm
brza da originator
Of course he will easy ud for floyd . Ppv will be same as first r worse so expect his may fight to bomb ( unless its pacquaio or If porter / thurman can pound out 2 huge win s pushing up interest) because of the onesided nature of the rematch that we r supposed to believe is gonna be competitivePosted July 4, 2014 3:20 pm
tarkie you are the lying piece of sh!t. everyone knows thatPosted July 4, 2014 2:17 pm
That’s BS he agreed to 21 days out. I said 14 and he said NO.Posted July 4, 2014 2:08 pm
Chatman/Sredmond says.., “was it not Pac and his trainer FREDDIE ROACH who insisted on RANDOM DRUG TESTING for the RIOS FIGHT?”
Pacquiao routinely does random Olympic style drug testing for all his fights… He wants to prove that testing is not any problem for him whatever.
Contrary to lying pieces os sht, Pacquiao acceded to Floyd’s position on testing and Floyd moved the goal posts…
Finally… Pacquiao just instructed all his negotiators, “Look… I don’t want anything to stop this fight… I wll test up to the day of the fight and even between rounds standing on my head if that’s what Floyd wants… Just get the fight done, I’m sick of this sht.”
Doesn’t sound like the guy who doesn’t want the fight done.Posted July 4, 2014 1:36 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn – “I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life.”
PEEJ… I’m currently doing my annual tier rating assessment and I’ve got a few questions I need to ask you so I can evaluate your correct placement.
Are you a fan of the legendary gravel-voiced Jewish bard Leonard Cohen and if so what’s your favourite song of his?
Have you ever shot or contemplated shooting a wolf or a bear?
Are you partial to a slice of grilled Halloumi?
Do you ever find yourself wondering whether your grandmother allowed grandpa PEEJ to ride her balls deep up the ass and bust a nut all over her visage during their younger years or not?
Favourite famous Peter out of these four?
Do you ever find yourself wondering what a cocktail made of baboon urine and tortoise blood might taste like?
Do you like bats, as in the nocturnal winged mammal variety?
Your domicile is located in Arizona, right? If so, do you own a pair of snake skin socks?
Who really won Hagler vs Leonard?
Thanks in advance bro.Posted July 4, 2014 12:29 pm
Check now please!
PacROID* NEVER wanted to take stringent blood tests, except when he fought Rios……go figure.Posted July 4, 2014 12:12 pm
Why do certain people on these boards continue to rehash the Pac/Mayweather drug saga? Can’t you see it’s a waste of time? Go outside and spit into the wind. You’ll get the same results.Posted July 4, 2014 11:55 am
Pac you owe 50M in back taxes and GKTFO by Marquez, your still being pimped by Bob Arum, now you need me to clean your mess up? lolPosted July 4, 2014 5:37 am
Everyone wants to talk about everything but what’s going on right now. Yes, everyone who knows boxing knows that Pac blamed his loss to Morales on flakey testing. Fact is that Pac has gone on ESPN and said more than one time in other interviews that the 60-40 split is fine and that he’d take the test Floyd requested. He even took the test in his fight with Rios to show the world that he’s willing to take it. All Floyd has to do at this point is call Pac and say “OK, let’s fight”. If they run into problems with Pac taking the 60/40 or problems with Pac testing, then we know that Pac was full of it, and if they sign we have a fight. But until Floyd is willing to make the call, it stands that Pac has agreed to Floyd’s terms and Floyd still refuses to toe the line.Posted July 4, 2014 5:30 am
Havoc – You are obviously wasting your time with Peej. If Pac says he’ll take 60/40 Peej will just say that he wants someone else to say it. If Pac says he’ll take the test, then Peej will say that someone else has to say it. All this nonsense even though anyone who knows boxing knows that the fighter makes the final decision. Arum would not be the biggest investor in the fight so he only gets so much say so, and Pac can agree to any form of testing he likes without anyone’s input at all. The most loyal Floyd fans will make the story up any way they want it to be. Not all of them, just the ones who worship him, so don’t waste your time. Sad part is that there are plenty of Floyd fans that actually do have common sense, but there are far too many like Peej who simply want to argue or will make up lies.Posted July 4, 2014 5:21 am
PEEJ is a serial liarPosted July 4, 2014 3:06 am
You know nothing jon snow
Simple.. PAC is broke
Havoc even now Pac has not agreed to the random testing up to fight night. His manager Koncz has said this. Arum has said nothing that says the split will not be 50/50. If so point me in the direction to see that he said that. It does not matter what Pac says, what matters is what Arum says. Pac did say he would take less money but then Arum said no no no it has to be 50/50.Posted July 4, 2014 2:21 am
So people need to stop talking about random testing that has been accept by Pacman. Now the only thing is Pacman need to backstab Arum and leave and make 1 mega fight with Floyd who loves to control everything.Posted July 4, 2014 1:34 am
Pacman said okay to random, okay to the split purse, but no can do with leaving his promoter.Posted July 4, 2014 1:32 am
Octavius Jomar Chatman
What I found even more intriguing is that he wanted RANDOM DRUG TESTING for the RIOS FIGHT but did not ask for it when fighting Bradley the second time…and who was RIOS STRENGTHENING COACH at the time of that fight…Pacman’s FORMER STRENGTHENING COACH…ARIZA!!!Posted July 4, 2014 1:09 am
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Something else I find rather strange; Pacman said the reason he was against drawing blood was because it WEAKENED him for the first Morales fight….Correct me if I’m wrong; did he not also say the reason and pretty much the SOLE REASON why he loss that fight was because he was UNABLE TO WEAR HIS GLOVES OF PREFERENCE…..And was it not he and his trainer FREDDIE ROACH who insisted on RANDOM DRUG TESTING for the RIOS FIGHT; what happened….He all of a sudden acquired a NEW BODY OR SOMETHING????Posted July 4, 2014 1:07 am
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Te Tumbo…I was wondering the same thing; and for quite some time!!!!!Posted July 4, 2014 1:01 am
if you concede that Mayweather didn’t know, then it becomes glaringly apparent that it was Pacquiao* and Pacquiao* alone who made an issue out of an otherwise Harmless and MUTUALLY-Applied anti-doping condition that ultimately sabotaged the once eagerly-anticipated P4P showdown between these two.Posted July 3, 2014 11:00 pm
BLAZE, you know what is “ridiculous”? that so many of Pacquiao’s* fans and some “experts” alike assume that Mayweather knew that a MUTUALLY-Applied testing condition would sabotage the fight. HOW could Floyd have possibly known that an harmless anti-doping condition would compel Pacquiao* to bolt? HOW?Posted July 3, 2014 10:53 pm
So asking for drug testing was taking advantage of? Picking a very popular date for boxing is taking advantage of? How was Floyd taking advantage of Pac? Allowing to have Pac make more money than he ever has before is considered being taken advantage of?Posted July 3, 2014 10:41 pm
Peej: you have a point. Let me add to it. The reason Mayweather can’t deal with Arum because Arum is not about to kiss Floyd’s butt and agree to his terms. Arum is not going to let Floyd take advantage of his top fighter. Floyd can only dictate the likes of Maidana, Guerrero, Canelo, Cotto and every body else that he picked and pay them peanuts.Posted July 3, 2014 10:39 pm
Blaze, Pac never agreed to testing. Koncz has said before that no we have no agreed to testing to the day of the fight.Posted July 3, 2014 10:36 pm
Doesn’t matter if 50/50 is more than what he gets fighting bums. 60/40 is more than Pac gets fighting bums to. So what is your point? IF Floyd brings in more money then he deserves a bigger piece of the pie. It is like Lebron James getting paid more money than anybody else on the team. Why is that? They are all on the same team. Ill tell you why, fans aren’t there to see the other players play, they come to see Lebron play. Same thing with Jordan. There were teams that couldn’t sell out for any game, but when Chicago came to town, the game was a sell out. Why, cause they wanted to see Jordan. So the same thing is with Floyd. Now whether you are there to see him win or lose, you are still there to see him. And who asks for OST, well there are a lot of fighters doing it.Posted July 3, 2014 10:35 pm
Havoc leaving TR is something only recently he said and I think he was just saying that. But that is just my opinion. Because he has said he likes Arums son in law but does not like or will not work with Arum. I think if he left it all up to Todd then it would be a different story. But Arum is wanting to be in the mix. Another excuse is HBO has to be apart of it. You know Pac has no contract with HBO right. So why do they have to be apart of it?Posted July 3, 2014 10:30 pm
Blaze, yes I have that same stance. Because first of all the gloves that Floyd likes to use have a lot of padding around the knuckle areas because he has hand issues. There is no 2nd. I don’t believe someone when they say they could of KOd someone with this particular glove unless they are above the ounces that they are supposed to be. Like fighting with 16oz gloves. So no I do not believe Floyd when he says that. Just like I don’t believe Floyd when he said he chose to stand toe to toe with Maidana.Posted July 3, 2014 10:29 pm
OH GOD!! This is ridicules. First Floyd’s fans were saying that when Pac agreed to testing that the fight would happen. Then when Pac agreed and Floyd wanted more money they said that the fight would happen if Pac agreed to give Floyd the lion’s share. Now that Pac has agreed to that and they see how ridicules Floyd’s request for Pac to leave TR is, they are saying “Pac had his chance”. Fact is that the fight won’t happen, and Floyd simply doesn’t want the fight for whatever reason. Even I thought that after JMM KO’d him and was still capable of bringing in the ppv money that Floyd would be first to jump at fighting him, but he didn’t and still shows no interest in making the fight. We can speculate reasons all day as to why he doesn’t want the fight, but it’s pretty clear at this point that he definitely doesn’t want the fight, at least not right now. Why is that so hard to say?Posted July 3, 2014 9:49 pm
Peej: who demands OST? Fight purse split? Or leaving TR? All these become a hurdle and it becomes an excuse not to fight. 50/50 split is more than what Floyd’s get fighting bums who he pays peanuts.Posted July 3, 2014 9:40 pm
Peej – I hope you had the same stance when Floyd was saying that he would’ve KO’d Oscar if he could have used the gloves he wanted to use. I think the claims by Floyd about his fight with Oscar AND Maidana’s claims about his fight with Floyd are both b.s. and trash talk, I’m just wondering if you do.Posted July 3, 2014 9:31 pm
The oracle of Delphi
History tells us that everything has an end, except a sausage, that has two. Mayweather’s end (0) is near, not sure it will be Maidana, but as Achilles told his men before taking Troy, “glory, take it, it’s yours”. I hope Maidana beats Fakeweather/ Weatherpicker/ Fakepicker, etc, on the second time around…take the glory Maidana, it can be yours!Posted July 3, 2014 9:30 pm
Havoc I am not blind at who is making the excuses between the 2. If OST was a way of getting out of the fight then why are there so many fighters an advocate for it? How come Pac is not? If the purse was an issue then how come Pac didn’t agree to a 60 40 split? Floyd is the one bringing in more of the PPV not Pac. In the first round of negotiations the money was settled, Floyd agreed to everything including the ridiculous 1 million per pound over. Why did Arum say we needed a stadium built? Why did he say 3 months is not enough time to promote the fightt of the century? Why did he say we can’t fight Floyd when he is going to jail in June even though the fight was in May? Cotto didn’t seem to mind. Why did he say Floyd doesn’t dictate the date of the fight even though he had that date scheduled 5 months in advanced? Once again your blind hatred for Floyd is ridiculous. I don’t hear you calling Pac out in fighting some of the young up and comers at 147.Posted July 3, 2014 9:25 pm
There are no magic gloves. Though some gloves have more padding on the knuckle area than others. What Floyd was saying is that there was no padding on the knuckle area where as the only protection is the wrapping on your hand and basically the leather of the glove. That is no how boxing gloves are. Nobody on this site was there and felt the gloves so they have no clue. Beside the fact he also got to use the same brand glove just not the same type of glove. If he didn’t know Floyd out with that glove he had on he wasn’t gonna knock him out with the gloves he originally wanted. You are B level. You let your hate for Floyd just blind you and you constantly do it.Posted July 3, 2014 9:21 pm
Gloves aren’t the factor. SKILLS are. Oscar made Floyd wear different gloves than he’s accustomed to and he still LOST. Because SKILLS is more important than Gloves.Posted July 3, 2014 8:50 pm
Sredmond: didn’t Floyd request to change gloves yes or no? You are full of crap! Maidanas preffered gloves is way more better than what Floyd demanded and have to pay for it in close door just to make sure he takes away Maidanas punching power. You are good but full of bulls…sorry you are not fooling me.Posted July 3, 2014 8:39 pm
POW!!!! LOOK at that sweat FLYING off Maidana’s HEAD. TOO bad that Maidana couldn’t land any shots like THAT in the Fight. He won’t land them in the next Fight either. Floyd by Rabbit TAMING Landslide decision.Posted July 3, 2014 7:48 pm
The next Maidana fight won’t be as competitive I feel. Floyd’s going to demand a ref like Joe Cortez that over officiates a fight and will take away points for rabbit punching and low blows. I think Floyd knows what to expect this time with Maidana and he’ll throw more punches and stay off the ropes more then he did in the first fight. Maidana fought a great fight and did what he supposed to do but Floyd landed the cleaner, sharper punches. I would rather see Mayweather fight Porter or Thurman.Posted July 3, 2014 6:38 pm
SRedmond – You seem to keep shifting the subject in search for something to be right about. First you were talking about how Floyd not having to “choose” to fight Pac. Once I showed that it’s really all up to him, you gently switched it to basically saying that Pac isn’t trying hard enough to make the fight happen. Once I established that Foyd has done absolutely nothing to make the fight happen, you are now shifiting to PPV buys and quality of opposition. Well, you’re still a bit off. Floyd’s last fights were against Maidana, Alvarez, Cotto, Guerrero, and Ortiz. Other than Alvarez and Cotto, none of the other opponents match up to JMM 40 years old or not, and Pac already annihilated Cotto. Yes, Pac took a bad KO, but he has proved that he is still top notch by beating Bradley who walked over the guy that KO’d Pac. As far as PPV goes, Pac’s fight with JMM did over a million buys. When you simply compare numbers without takeing the opponent into consideration it will look like Floyd is was above Pac in this area. But, if you compare the fights when each fought a guy that wouldn’t be on ppv without fighting one of them the numbers are just like they were before. For example, When Floyd fought Guerrero he pulled only 875,000 buys like when Pac fought Bradley he only pulled 800,000 buys. But of course you are comparing Pac fighting guys in a comeback fight against Rios who shouldn’t even be on PPV or Bradley who isn’t very popular to Floyd vs Canelo or Cotto, who are ppv stars themselves. That’s not a fair or intellectually honest comparison, because you know that if Pac fought those two the ppv turnout would be great. And at the end of the day, none of this matters because I already said that Pac said he was willing to give Floyd 60/40. So why are you even bringing up a 50/50 split after just I said that? And you’re talking Pac giving JMM a hypothetical rematch as if that would be so terrible, but rematches are some of the most dangerous fights you can take, and we all know that JMM gives Pac trouble. Besides that, isn’t Floyd about to, not hypothetically, but actually rematch Maidana who isn’t even as good as JMM and didn’t give Floyd nearly as hard a time as JMM gives to Pac? I think ppl are finding this rematch acceptable contrary to your assertion. But all of this is completely off the subject of my first post, which is ultimately about how nobody seems to be trying to unify the WW titles. I can give Pac a pass simply because he lost his title and just regained it in his last fight, but you can’t defend Floyd not having most of them by now or at least two of them, unless he offered fights to the other belt holders and they refused, which we know hasn’t happened.Posted July 3, 2014 4:38 pm
But another question is will the ref in the rematch let Maidana get away with the rough stuff. I think Maidana felt that the best way to possibly beating Floyd was attempting to turn the fight into almost a streetfight. In other words rough Floyd up anyway you can.Posted July 3, 2014 4:34 pm
Floyd claims he fought the way he did against Maidana to give the fans a more exciting fight. I’m not so sure that I buy that because at least for the first half of the fight Floyd did have an uncomfortable look on his face almost making you think that he didn’t totally expect to be in that type of situation. As the fight progressed Floyd brought it more back to the center of the ring and did better. My guess is for the second fight Floyd will try and make the adjustments to keep it in the center of the ring for most of the fight. But what if the first Maidana fight was Floyd finally showing signs of age catching up with him? If that’s the case then Maidana could continue to give him fits the second time around as well. I could see Floyd blowing Maidana out in the rematch and I could also envision him having a tough time with Maidana again. It looks like we’ll find out in September.Posted July 3, 2014 4:31 pm
SREDMOND: Has nothing to do with it. The only real offenses that place you to be disqualified are certain drug charges, and things that make you a flight risk. You’re responding to nothing with nothing.Posted July 3, 2014 4:10 pm
Bye the way….. 80,000 is what Froch did. If in fact the capacity can be higher, there will be much more than 80,000 fans. Wembley has a 90,000 seat capacity, Floyd Vs. Khan would bring in a minimal of 5 thousand more fans. Floyd gets thousands and thousands of fans just at his weigh-ins, he should definitely fight Khan at the Wembley Stadium… it would be very fitting For such a legend to fight in front of such a large crowd. However. We have stadiums in the US that have much higher capacities than anything in Europe. For instance, Floyd is from Michigan… he could fight at Michigan Stadium, with a capacity of 115,000. We have many University Stadiums with much great capacity, but I doubt they’d lend their stadiums to a boxing match. Wembley is in the top 20 (20th) though and Khan is one of their 3 biggest boxing stars, so it would be good.Posted July 3, 2014 4:09 pm
Don’t be a fool Aficiando, Ok I asked too much Britain will spread it’s cheeks and welcome the P4P King if he decides to battle.. Just like Chisora got a license to fight Haye after b#%tch slapping Vitali, spitting in Wlads face and having a fight at the post presser… Don’t be naive you think the angles aren’t covered?Posted July 3, 2014 4:00 pm
“The suprise will be Floyd fighting in the UK if he can get a visa! Amir Khan in front of 80,000 fans!” – Two time convicted felons don’t get visas to the UK. That fight isn’t happening unless it’s in Vegas.Posted July 3, 2014 2:49 pm
The Prince, please do not encourage these fools to spare their lives! if they want to jump let them jump! These bozos are MAD because FMJ called their bluff! They raised Maidana on their shoulders in cyberspace and tried to sell him as a conqueror who Mayweather would naturally avoid at all costs but then Floyd said “we are gonna do it again” they basically KNOW that the odds favor Maidana doing WORSE this time around and the thought of Floyd moving the needed to 47-0 is killing these wretches inside…Posted July 3, 2014 2:35 pm
Oh and next time mr. Hey E…post your name quit hiding like a little girl. You’re already behind the computer!Posted July 3, 2014 2:34 pm
You Mayweather haters are such hypocrites. First you claim that Maidana really won the fight. Then you said Floyd would be too scared to give Maidana an immediate rematch, because of how close the fight was. Now that Floyd has given Maidana the rematch, now you’re going back to the old “cherrypicking” nonsense. And no, Floyd is not going to let Maidana tee off on him like he did in the first fight. This time he’s going to listen to his father and fight like the Mayweather millions of fans worldwide know and appreciate. And if Maidana does still make it rough, then look for Floyd to KO Maidana with sharp counters. Floyd is going to create a masterpiece in the second fight. Try not to jump out the window while it happens.Posted July 3, 2014 2:30 pm
Money never means anything to people who don’t have it or know how to make it. “MONEY I’SNT EVRYTHING” yeah right somebody BROKE like yourself made that up! LolPosted July 3, 2014 2:27 pm
Slim, these BUMS expect Mayweather to fight with one hand… I remember Hecdog saying “they should outlaw the shoulder roll in boxing” basically because it allows Mayweather to hit and not get hit so well…. These type of Anti-Boxing fans populate the boards and seek to override any outcomes they don’t like Maidana gave a good effort but he FAILED… Instead of showing class and accepting the outcome… These CRABS waste our time with conspiracies and what ifs…Posted July 3, 2014 2:17 pm
You didn’t need to write @ I created the name to catch your attention idiot. Money doesn’t mean anything to educated men we earn our ownPosted July 3, 2014 1:49 pm
Do you guys think the Mayweather’s are stupid or something? They new Maidana was gonna fight dirty as sht. He came in weighing 166lbs Floyd was weighing 148. So you have a welter fighting a super middle weight. Now why would he give an EXTRA advantage by using gloves with hardly no padding. You don’t get to be #1 Pound Per Pound in the WORLD letting people cheat and get too many advantages morons.Posted July 3, 2014 1:43 pm
Blaze, there was a time when Manny and Floyd were comparable as it pertains to PPV clout and the ability to generate revenue… Well those days are LONG gone, Manny simply cannot do big numbers anymore, Even Arum called his last 2 outings disappointing as both were WELL under 1 million buys and one UNDER 500k… Mayweathers deal structure has him earning FAR more $$$ than Manny who is by no means a pauper but certainly not clocking the $$$$$ like FMJ who is the worlds richest athlete… If Manny and Floyd don’t fight I really don’t care much at this point the bout is stale dated and ALOT has happened in the intervening period, both guys are older and Manny got knocked out so badly I can’t see him as a strong threat to Floyd…My point is that Manny is NOT in an even position with Mayweather were they to fight do you really think it would be a 50/50 revenue split? Team Pac would not even try to ask for that now… But I digress, you are locked in the past Bro this bouts not happening and Floyd has been contending with BIGGER punchers and stronger fighters than Manny Pacquiao while Pac Man keeps doing rematches with the same guys… If he faces Marquez again that will be 3 fights in the last 3 or so years with a guy pushing 40…. This would not be acceptable for Mayweather…Posted July 3, 2014 1:40 pm
Havoc, Tark has NO school to take ANYONE to is he is the same guy that says David Haye is an Ali equivalent and that Manny has not “really lost a fight in 10 years” in any event… Mayweather having issue with Maidanas gloves means nothing beyond in the scheme of things, Floyd defeated Oscar with gloves that were mandated by ODH and correct me if I am wrong the gloves were 8 oz? which means they are dangerous when in the hands of a professional fighter…Did Floyd make Maidana wear 16 OZ gloves? Maidana interviewed on another site and discussed how he could not land the shots he needed to hurt FMJ and needed to “settle down” he could not even keep Floyd bleeding from the butt induced cut… His issue was NOT his gloves it was his LACK of accuracy, a common complaint among deposed Mayweather foes… Hope this helps you a bit… !Posted July 3, 2014 1:34 pm
There is NO such thing as “Magic Gloves” in boxing… Marcos Maidana can knockout almost anyone if he lands clean… If a certain glove allowed ANY boxer to be a KO artist then everyone would wear that glove… These are just EXCUSES, Maidana could not even get the type of clean shots on Floyd needed to produce real “Hurt” and he admitted that.
This is why Tark take you to school every time. Why on earth Floyd demanded a different gloves when it says in the contract Maidana can wear gloves he preferred. And you are saying the gloves doesn’t make a difference. Now I know you are just like peej. B level!Posted July 3, 2014 1:24 pm
SRedmond – Well, first you have to look at these guys who are calling out these other guys. Floyd was not where Pac is when he called out Oscar. Just like GGG and Lara aren’t where Pac is now when they call out Floyd. Pac and Floyd are both in the positions where they are the ones who are supposed to be called out, so you can’t expect Pac to call out Floyd as if he’s lucky to get opportunity to fight him like these other guys you bring up. Plus, what do you want him to do? I’ve seen Pac in multiple interviews, including on ESPN’s First Take calling out Floyd, but not once do I remember Floyd calling out Pac. It’s like you won’t be satisfied with anything Pac does to make the fight happen. He’s called Floyd out on multiple occasions, he’s agreed to do the random testing, and even agree to give Floyd the 60/40 split he wanted. There’s no sense in vehemently calling Floyd out after making this many concessions to make the fight happen, because at this point Pac has every reason to think that no matter what he does, Floyd doesn’t want to fight him, regardless of whether or not it’s true. He’d just be wasting his time and appearing desperate for a fight he really doesn’t need anymore than Floyd does, and a fight he has every reason to believe won’t happen. Pac isn’t some newly ranked challenger, nor is he some guy who is going to sit on an auction block like Maidana and Khan in order to get the fight. Either Floyd wants to make the fight, or he doesn’t. You are asking Pac to chase him down to make the fight, but what are you asking Floyd to do? Besides all that, nothing Pac does will make Floyd choose him. Floyd just has to want the fight bad enough to make a phone call. It’s really that simple.Posted July 3, 2014 12:28 pm
Floyd is cool call him he may pay all your mom and dad debt get them off welfare…lolPosted July 3, 2014 12:11 pm
@Hey E…Nope he’s a rich nig. lol his million dollar watch is worth more than your whole trailer park family. Call him maybe he will your mom and dads credit card debt. lolPosted July 3, 2014 12:07 pm
Call Floyd a name
If manny can call Floyd out in a classes way Floyd would bite…it’s easy he’s an uneducated fool…money doesn’t discriminate idiots in fact it lives them morePosted July 3, 2014 11:56 am
Blaze, we have seen guys get RADICAL when they are dying to fight another guy… Hagler called out Leonard and so did Tommy Hearns when they wanted to bang and make that paper… Floyd called out Oscars name something fierce, when he wanted the BIG stage… EVERYONE is calling out FMJ from Lara, to GGG and yet Pac Man is very reserved and too passive AGAIN I am not saying its fear but he does not help his case by acting like 1100000 year old Arum or Roach are the only guys who can speak for him…Posted July 3, 2014 11:53 am
Blaze, I simply don’t buy that the notion that “Manny is just waiting for a call” and I don’t really see that as a viable position if you say that Pacquiao cannot wait to get in the ring with Floyd… Its a passive attitude about something that is HUGE monetarily and from a historical standpoint… Freddy Roach is FAR more vocal than Manny and he has Parkinsons disease… I like Pac Man and I don’t think he is a coward but I do think ALOT of the burden is not shared by him because his role is the humble, quiet, God fearing foreigner whereas Mayweather is brash and outspoken.. Manny could EASILY amp up public pressure by really calling Mayweather out, and basically saying whatever but he pretty much ALWAYS defers to his promoter which is respectful but he is a Superstar in his own right…Posted July 3, 2014 11:48 am
SRedmond – I didn’t mean “choose Pac” in the way you took it. Basically, I’m saying that if Pac isn’t his choice of his next opponent. The reason pressure has been taken off of Pac is because he’s already expressed in no uncertain terms that he is simply waiting on Floyd to call him for the fight. So, what are we to do as viewers other than hope Floyd “chooses” to call Pac to make the fight? If he had called him and negotiations went bad, then it wouldn’t be about Floyd choosing, it would be about failed negotiations. But, since we have no reason that Floyd is even attempting to make the fight, and since we already know that Floyd has said in no uncertain terms that he won’t fight Pac as long as he’s promoted by Arum, then the “choice” to fight Pac is on Floyd’s shoulders. I’m not saying that Pac has no real choice whether or not to fight Floyd, I’m saying that Floyd has the choice to make since Pac has already expressed his choice of wanting to fight Floyd at this point.Posted July 3, 2014 11:42 am
Hibdee, if you scored the fight ONE point in favor of Maidana you basically open the door for judges and others to slightly diverge with your opinion and thus Mayweather becomes the victor… Maidana faded or Floyd stepped it up during the second half of the bout, Marcos had not done enough to look bad for 5 rounds and assure himself a win especially when the Championship rounds are in play… He did NOT put FMJ down, he did not hurt him, he flailed a lot and did some rough and uneven work on the ropes which he received appropriate credit for… Thinking less than a CLEAR win is gonna get it done against a Champ the likes of FMJ is in defiance of 100 years of boxing tradition… That is why the Pac Bradley fight was a TRAVESTY the first time out… You have to really take it to the Champion and please don’t bore me with “Maidana had a belt too” yeah he does not have the status in the game FMJ does.Posted July 3, 2014 11:30 am
Hibdee, my point is that people trying to sell the notion that Maidana was grossly handicapped and was landing HARD shots that would have felled Mayweather with a different set of gloves does not fly… I don’t argue that Maidana made it a tough competitive fight, Mayweather acknowledged that it was a tough competitive fight… That said I saw Mayweather landing the clean head shots which stand out.. Maidana is tough as nails and likely the only way Floyd would stop him is if he just pounded him Margarito style for 9 or 10 rounds and Garcia said this is pointless let me preserve my fighter… Floyd standards for performance are HIGHER than the rest of the sport so a competitive win draws more cat calls than normal… We are used to seeing him win 9 or 10 rounds with relative ease while fighting his fight the whole time… Maidana gets credit for making it ugly but he failed to do what it takes to get the win… Mayweather rematching him is a feather in Floyds cap because it shows he is willing to step up and address doubters and skeptics…Posted July 3, 2014 11:25 am
You know nothing jon snow
Mayweather won.. Get over it..
AGAIN Maidana could have knocked Floyd cold with those gloves if he had been able to land a clean shot but the FAMED Mayweather defense kept Chino hitting arms, shoulders and landing glancing blows at best…”
But Floyd didn’t do much better either. Marcos thought he won the fight. He’s no Juan Manuel Marquez who complains about every loss he has. It was a very close fight–much closer than two of the judges’ scorecards indicated.Posted July 3, 2014 11:15 am
“With all that said he still lost the fight. I had Mayweather by a round or two but still a win.”
I scored the fight 114-113 Maidana but I favored Mayweather by UD going into the fight. I mean I was certain Floyd would dominate him but that’s not what I saw when I scored the fight. So, I had no bias for Maidana before the fight but I did say that Maidana would take it to him–because that’s always been Maidana’s style–and that’s exactly what he did.
And let’s not forget, Maidana came out of that fight nearly unmarked–same as Floyd (barring the cut from the headbutt)–so the vehement claim that Floyd was a more effective puncher just doesn’t hold a lot of water.
Floyd is rematching Maidana for three reasons: One: Demand. Lots of fans want to see a rematch because it was a close fight and many thought Maidana won. Two: Money. Because of the demand it will be a good PPV event. Three: Floyd needs to prove that he can convincingly beat Maidana–there’s no two ways about it. Floyd wouldn’t rematch Maidana if he didn’t think he had something to prove because Floyd just doesn’t do rematches. He hasn’t fought an opponent more than once since his bouts with Castillo and his last bout with Castillo was more than 12 years ago.
I expect Floyd to put on a better performance this time because he will be able to anticipate what Maidana is going to do. But there’s no way in hell he’s going to stop Maidana. Since becoming a welterweight, Floyd’s KO percentage has dropped to around 18%. Two stoppages in eleven fights. That’s pathetic by any standard. So to think he’ll somehow miraculously stop Maidana is fantasy at its best.
Should be another good fight, however.Posted July 3, 2014 11:12 am
AGAIN Maidana could have knocked Floyd cold with those gloves if he had been able to land a clean shot but the FAMED Mayweather defense kept Chino hitting arms, shoulders and landing glancing blows at best…Maidanas most effective blow of the evening was a BUTT and even the cut opened by that was taken out of the equation by Rafael Garcia and Mayweather not allowing Maidana to capitalize on the injury… this is a FACT that Maidana admitted to, he could not expand the wound because Floyd shut the crude fighter down and started bouncing right hands off his head… AGAIN hell of an effort by Maidana but trying hard does not mean you get the win…Posted July 3, 2014 11:09 am
“SREDMOND is OVER 43, unmarried, no kids, no girlfriend, no
job, looooves Floyd and is 24/7 on Eastsideboxing to chat
with guys. That’s suspicious. Do i need to say more?”
Hmmm, you’re the only one who seems enamored with him.Posted July 3, 2014 10:59 am
Ron the Racist
Floyd is starting to get that ‘Old Guy Look’, know what I am sayin.Posted July 3, 2014 10:46 am
Ron the Racist
Hmmm likes to flog his mule.Posted July 3, 2014 10:44 am
You know nothing jon snow
Lol you haters are so lame…Posted July 3, 2014 10:28 am
You know nothing jon snow
Lol… Now all the Floyd haters have an excuse why Chino lost.. Wow you hoes are that lame….did you actually see the gloves Chino was trying to use??? They had almost no padding on the knuckles….Posted July 3, 2014 10:26 am
Boxing Don, during your time riding my JOCK you got your info VERY wrong… I am NOT even close to from Florida, only time I am down there is going to the Delano, W Hotel and Gansevoort Miami… If you are gonna affix yourself to my nutsack do it properly SON…Posted July 3, 2014 9:56 am
Floyds job this fight is to simply BEAT Maidana into submission.. Be more offensive and take advantage of the fact that he has much faster hands and feet… Give Marcos NO chance to pin him on the ropes and batter him till he is demoralized or does something crazy and gets himself DQ’ed… In essence give Maidana NO chance from a tactical standpoint..Posted July 3, 2014 9:54 am
Any truth to the rumor that Sredmond and Vivek Wallace are the same fools? They both from Florida. Holla at ya boy!Posted July 3, 2014 9:30 am
SREDMOND is OVER 43, unmarried, no kids, no girlfriend, no
job, looooves Floyd and is 24/7 on Eastsideboxing to chat
with guys. That’s suspicious. Do i need to say more?Posted July 3, 2014 9:26 am
There is NO such thing as “Magic Gloves” in boxing… Marcos Maidana can knockout almost anyone if he lands clean… If a certain glove allowed ANY boxer to be a KO artist then everyone would wear that glove… These are just EXCUSES, Maidana could not even get the type of clean shots on Floyd needed to produce real “Hurt” and he admitted that.Posted July 3, 2014 9:13 am
Livershot you are DEAD on, a guy who wins 4 rounds off of Floyd should get a “W” in the minds of these crazed detractors, whatever rounds that Maidana won were more the result of activity and pressure as opposed to clean punches… Maidana himself lamented that he could not get shots he needed in to hurt Floyd, he was landing glancing blows at best and was the recipient of the clean head shots especially going down the stretch… In fairness to Floyds detractors he is painfully close to ending his career Undefeated assuming he stays with the concept of fighting 3 more times (I doubt it at 32 mill a pop)…Posted July 3, 2014 9:11 am
DEE, no bud , your pissing into the wind, styles make fights , madaina was just barging in throwing punches left , right and centre aimed at nothing and landing on arms , shoulders and hitting mid air . The bar room
The rematch has all the making of a big let down from the first fight. Yes, Maidana made it an ugly fight. Yes, he used rough house tactics. Yes, some shots were borderline low and some shots may have landed behind the ear. With all that said he still lost the fight. I had Mayweather by a round or two but still a win. I think all the haters want Mayweather to lose so bad anyone that does better than anyone else has done should be a win. Maidana did have his moments and he made Mayweather look old at times. In the end Mayweathers skill and ability to adapt and out box won him the fight. The Referee will be looking a lot closer to Maidana and this fight may be stopped due to fouls and dirty tactics. I’m sure Ellerbe and Mayweather will be sure to pick the Ref along with the size of gloves and size of the ring for the fight. Mayweather is just like Las Vegas, the house is stacked against the players, in the end Mayweather/Vegas always wins.Posted July 3, 2014 8:04 am
Why would he fight differently after outclassing the bum. Maidana got whooped and know he hit the lottery twice.Posted July 3, 2014 7:18 am
I think we saw Floyd lose a step or two in his bout with Maidana. I think in the rematch, we will witness the decline of Floyd. He is past his prime. Maidana is not. There is always the possibility that Maidana catches him good this time round.Posted July 3, 2014 6:55 am
Ray-Ray: I agree! Good post!Posted July 3, 2014 6:38 am
Havoc-Correct….Big names get the calls 4 sure. U do have 2 earn ur way up 2 the top of the hill though. Guys like Floyd/Manny have done this so they dictate the terms, thats just how it go’s. It would b a complete diff fight all 2gether if the smaller gloves get the nod 4 this 2nd fight. No way Floyd stands infront of Madaina with the smaller Gloves.Posted July 3, 2014 6:36 am
Ray-Ray: I’m not watching. I know the outcome. Same gloves Maidana has no chance. The only thing that is going for Maidana is his power punch and Floyd took that away when he demand to change the gloves. Floyd is the top earner who dictates everything in his favor who has the IQ and knowledge of the sport.Posted July 3, 2014 6:27 am
We saw from the first fight Maidana wasn’t able to connect cleanly to stun Mayweather. On that note Mayweather should win A Little easier this time around. Without swarming or knocking his opponent out Maidana is nothing.Posted July 3, 2014 5:50 am
Havoc-Harder than pac? Very debateable. & u just said Ko’d not me. I said refs stoppage due 2 being peppered all night e.g Floyd v Gatti. Ora 12 rnd whooping/schooling like Floyd v Marquez or even Canelo. Floyd took Madainas best shots…..the legal and ilegal shots. Than finished way stronger so u can guess all u want but we will find out september.Posted July 3, 2014 5:35 am
Ray-Ray: Maidana is a hard puncher. Harder than Pacman. If Floyd decided to KO him he needs to use the same gloves that Maidana prefer which is not going to happen. I’m guessing Floyd will go over his wieght limit and pay the fine and run over the smaller Maidana.Posted July 3, 2014 5:24 am
Maybe….? Gatti had concrete chin 2, until his eyes closed from constand peppering. Floyd could do a Gatti or Marquez type number on madaina if he wishes…..hes asking 4 trouble if he thinks hes going 2 bang with a banger. Stick 2 what u do best.Posted July 3, 2014 5:01 am
Soft pillow puncher Floyd won’t put a dent in Maidanas face. Who is he kidding! Maidana is a brick wall.Posted July 3, 2014 4:53 am
Yes he will…..quick start might c a ref stoppage late e.g Gatti. Not a smart fight by Floyd 1st time around.Posted July 3, 2014 4:42 am
GTFOH! Back in 2009 he was playing cat and mouse, wanting 50/50 of the money. That’s never gonna happen and he knew that. He didn’t want to take the tests earlier than 21 days before the fight. Floyd said 14 days he refused. Stop with the nonsense…Now he owes 50M in back taxes, been KTHO! by somebody Floyd walked through like a sparring session and now he’s begging for Floyd to bail him out! Hilarious…Posted July 3, 2014 4:13 am
The PPV numbers were around 895,000, somebody who knows.Posted July 3, 2014 4:01 am
Whack the taco
poor pacturds, Floyd too didn’t crack a Million ppv. Maidana Was 750.00 ppv. Around Same as nanny . Rio fight.Posted July 3, 2014 3:51 am
The suprise will be Floyd fighting in the UK if he can get a visa! Amir Khan in front of 80,000 fans!Posted July 3, 2014 3:30 am
Neither man is the same? Floyd is still on top and Manny well not so fortunate Manny skills have declined and he is not the draw he once was Floyd still sells out Vegas.Posted July 3, 2014 3:29 am
Same result as the first time around. As for a Pacquiao fight, you guys can argue all you want but we’ll nevenever know the outcome of a potential fight. Arum carries the most blame. He wanted to build to a crescendo and then cash Pacquiao out against Floyd but Marquez popped that bubble. Now the hype train has to build again but neither man is what they were 5 years ago. That ship has sailed and Arum made us all miss the boat.Posted July 3, 2014 2:57 am
Manny is no longer a superstar. His last fight didnt even crack 1 million ppvs. Floyd dont need Manny everyone Flod fights he makes the rules because he is the man with everything and everyone who wants to fights agrees even the size of gloves. Oscar did the same thing but when Floyd does it he is scared? Poor pactards who cry over Manny. He got KTFO by Marquez a 40 year old Mexican bum. So now Manny is willing to take the blood test I bet he is after his IRS troubles, Floyd made 70 million fighting Maidana and Manny is reduced to fighting in China in unheard arenas who is winning? Manny should have taken the fight in 09 and if Floyds demands are so unreasonable like these cry babies say then why are guys agreeing to it by the drones everyone he fights has to take random blood and urine Manny was no different he turned down 40 million and goes and gets dropped by Marquez for 20 million brillant now what does he have???Posted July 3, 2014 2:42 am
Peej: OST is an excuse plus the purse and leaving Arum. All of that demands Manny is willing to do to make the fight. Except leaving Arum which he can’t. Peej you are a good blogger and most of the time you know what you’re talking about but in reality you are blind about who is making excuses between the two. I would admit Mayweather is very good. Especially picking his opponents. But he can’t pick Pacqioua because he can’t. Demand king can’t take advantage of another superstar.Posted July 3, 2014 2:13 am
floyd want drug test but when pac is ready he is in trouble into jail. and now he dont wanna fight because of arum. so many excuses by floyd.
I see this as a safe no risk fight for Mayweather simply because he dominated long stretches in the first bout while letting Maidana execute his game plan. His hand and foot speed are superior, as his his punching accuracy, and defensive abilities. He will wrestle a little more this time around on the inside to stay clean and keep Maidana from scoring almost any points at all. Unless lightning strikes Mayweather wins by a wide UD–maybe even a shutoutPosted July 3, 2014 1:51 am
I find it funny that you think drug testing is an excuse. Floyd has agreed to all of Pacs demands but yet Pac coudn’t agree to drug testing, the only request Floyd asked for. Now the fight is never going to get made cause Floyd won’t work with Arum and Arum won’t work with Haymon. But Arum has had his excuses to. You really think asking for drug testing compares to we need to build an outdoor stadium? How about we can’t fight Floyd cause Floyd is going to jail? Floyd went to jail in June not May. So Floyd fought Cotto. So again whos fault is that? Arums. You need to place your anger in Arum. Yes both Pac and Floyd are to blame but Arum holds most the blame.Posted July 3, 2014 1:41 am
If Floyd wants the fight there is a lot of way to make it happen if he don’t want to fight there is a lot of excuses. Making demands and obstacle means you are making excuses. If you want the fight to happen there is a lot of way.Posted July 3, 2014 1:22 am
Peej: to many hurdle and fighting Maidana is way too easy. Superstar can’t make the best fight or maybe he is just plain scared.Posted July 3, 2014 1:19 am
Hard to say he is ducking Pac when Pac declined drug testing. Then later when the fight could of been made Arum made excuses saying there was not enough time to promote the fight like 3 months is not enough time. Like this fight needs promoting or they need to build an out door stadium. You should be mad at Arum not Floyd. Now Arum says he won’t work with Haymon. Thats Floyds manager. There are to many hurdles with Arum.Posted July 3, 2014 1:09 am
I hate Floyd Mayweather. He an uppity sambo.Posted July 3, 2014 12:59 am
Peej: hate is a strong word. I don’t like him and it makes me mad he is ducking my guy that will embarrass what you called boxing expert.Posted July 3, 2014 12:30 am
Floyd isn’t gonna get any bigger. Havoc you spend a lot of time hating on Floyd. Is that your hobby? When is Pac gonna step up and fight someone. Like a Thurman or Porter or GGG?Posted July 3, 2014 12:18 am
Rapid has a valid point! Floyd is out of cherries to pick. If there is any way Floyd’s changes his game plan is to demand more things in his favor! Ost, bigger gloves, bigger ring size and paying excess weights to be bigger and stronger.Posted July 3, 2014 12:13 am
I agree. He was forced to fight that way. But he also said he was going to fight that way also. But I still agree.Posted July 3, 2014 12:13 am
Rapid – bang on sir.Posted July 3, 2014 12:09 am
I have to call BS to any and all that agree with Floyd that he fought Cotto and now Maidanna that way cause he “wanted to” give the fans what they want. So the dude fights what 44 guys one way, and changes his style for 2 guys?? GTFOH!!Posted July 3, 2014 12:01 am
Yes Floyd will fight differently. He’ll go back to his run and pot shotting ways to eke out a boring UD. That is if his legs can still run 12 rounds. I’m not sure he can. His legs have been going for a couple years now. It’s the same reason he traded with Cotto; he had no choice, it’s not because he wants to “give the public entertaining fights.”Posted July 2, 2014 11:57 pm
Kings Boxing Gym
PEEJ you are all jibbety. Too much crack.Posted July 2, 2014 11:50 pm
Now we have the senile troll Tark giving us a stratergy on how to beat Mayweather mind you this is the guy who considers David ” The Toemaker” Haye better than Muhammed Ali and rates him no.6 as the best HW ever. What a disaster this Tark has turned out to be.,Posted July 2, 2014 11:36 pm
Also none of the 3 judges scored it for Maidana. Idiot.Posted July 2, 2014 11:20 pm
hibdeebibdee If you scored the fight for Maidana then you can’t score fights.Posted July 2, 2014 11:18 pm
Kings Boxing Gym, Floyd did win. Open your blind eyes. It was a close fight idiot. If you had him winning fine. He didn’t get the nod. Losing a close fight is not a robbery. It is just a fight that could go either way.Posted July 2, 2014 11:16 pm
Oh yeah Mayweather beating women jokes, those are always good ones…. LMAO, really?Posted July 2, 2014 11:00 pm
Scoring is in the eye of the beholder. There’s no use in even debating it for the most part. But in a close fight there’s no debate but to say the guy who got the win, didn’t lose… You can disagree all you want but it never matters. It didn’t matter in the hopkins/Taylor fights. It didn’t matter in the Ali/Norton fights, and it doesn’t matter in the Mayweahter/Castillo and Mayweather/Maidana fights. All that can be said is damn that was a close fight, and I think the other guy won. And in most cases in a close fight, fans will say the fighter they wanted to win, won the fight. This gets played out all the time on these threads.Posted July 2, 2014 10:57 pm
It’s worse than that he’s dead Gym
He could always beat up some more women while he is waitingPosted July 2, 2014 10:40 pm
“If you actually think he lost to Maidana then you can’t score fights.”
Tell that to the three judges who each scored the fight differently. Not one of them saw the same fight.
“Yes it was close but Floyd clearly won 7 of those rounds.”
You can’t score fights either.Posted July 2, 2014 10:12 pm
Yeah Floyd at his greatness! Just make sure to avoid Pacman to be the greatest.Posted July 2, 2014 10:11 pm
Kings Boxing Gym
Floyd did not win Castillo I PEEJ you blind f u c k.
Open your eyes and close your fat jibbery lipsPosted July 2, 2014 10:02 pm
Boring! It was always a boring fight!Posted July 2, 2014 9:57 pm
Exactly, like when he fought Cotto. Everybody was talking about how he gave Floyd a bloody nose. So basically Floyd is at that great level that when you give a blood nose or win a couple of rounds that is considered a moral victory.Posted July 2, 2014 9:55 pm
Floyd is going to take Maidana to school. And has he does so, people will realize that Floyd’s statement about intentionally holding back to give the fans a show, was a very true statement. This time, Floyd is going for the dominate UD or stoppage win. Get ready.Posted July 2, 2014 9:51 pm
The bar for Mayweathers performances with Hall of Famers, World Champs and World Class boxers is higher than any active fighter in the sport… He barely loses rounds, Maidana gave him what amounted to a “tough contest” and as such Mayweather is confident enough to let the naysayers and doubters hold their peckers in hopes Chino can do more than give a strong effort and actually win…Floyd can fight any boxer in the GBP stable and yet he chooses Maidana because he underperformed his own lofty standards… This is part of the reason he is an ATG, he is coming back to batter and humiliate Maidana and shut the scrubs up who pretend Marcos was beating him pillar to post.. If you REALLY think Maidana won, then you should be waiting in anticipation for him to hand Floyd his AZZ like he did Broner… But most of you clowns know deep in your heart Floyd Mayweather is more than just flash and $$$$$$ he’s a TOUGH Hombre that told Maidana at the press conference “If you think you won, we can do it again” I think we see Mayweather being offensive from the start, avoiding the ropes and treating Maidana to 12 rounds of lead rights, jabs left hooks and straight rights to the solar plexus… Floyd ain’t coming back for an M/D….Posted July 2, 2014 9:34 pm
hope they have another good ref at the rematch. weeks/ good ref.Posted July 2, 2014 9:28 pm
Floyd beat Castillo the first time. Just because it was a close fight does not mean it was a robbery. Because a fight can go either way does not mean it is a robbery if a certain fighter won. He clearly beat Maidana. If you actually think he lost to Maidana then you can’t score fights. Yes it was close but Floyd clearly won 7 of those rounds. Hitting in back of the head, below the belt and kneeing are not legal scoring blows.Posted July 2, 2014 9:07 pm
The way Mayweather has been talking he’s losing interest in the sport. If this is true, he’s ripe for the picking, and with Maidana’s good showing in the last fight he may get an official win, instead of a meaningless unofficial win in some fans eyes.Posted July 2, 2014 9:06 pm
It’s worse than that he’s dead Gym
Squared Circle has the beatPosted July 2, 2014 9:00 pm
Same thing , Floyd fights are boring n it’s not worth to watch n pay.. The world boxing fans wants him to fight Pacman n stop demanding stupid stuff..Posted July 2, 2014 8:50 pm
Maidana doesn’t bother adapting to an opponent. he focuses on improving his fight-plan and nothing else. Maidana has demonstrated a capacity for improving from fight-to-fight but it’s all about HIS improvement independent of what his opponent has done or plans to do. Maidana’s ring-performance is a direct reflection this preparation. he doesn’t wait to counter he simply punches. if the KO happens, it happens, but Maidana’s primary M.O. is to attack regardless of what his opponent is doing. win or lose, it’s been an effective way of sweeping his opponent’s fight-plan aside and to compel a FIGHT, which is what Maidana does best.Posted July 2, 2014 8:31 pm
Myles “Maidana wore regulation Everlast gloves… They didn’t allow him to wear his own gloves he brought from home.”
There is a list of gloves that are approved. There are boxers gloves (everlast etc) and punchers glove (Reyes etc). Understandable Chino cant wear gloves he threw in his bag w no questions and its not done like that on a world class level, obviously.
Maidana was not allowed to pick from the approved list of gloves that includes gloves more suited to him. He was forced to wear the “boxers gloves” Mayweather insisted upon or there was supposedly no fight.Posted July 2, 2014 8:08 pm
Maidana won the 1st 6 rounds, Floyd at least 5 if not all of the next 6 and looked good doing it. I think a draw would have been fair. As far as fouls…..May is no shrinking violet. Yes, it was a rough fight and that is what fighting is, rough. I don’t know of a PRO fighter that hasn’t had to adapt and reciprocate though some are more subtle than others. Maidana showed him no respect and I love him for it. That said, May made the adjustments in the second half of the fight which means he starts the rematch with that knowledge. May will stop him late in my opinion but if Im wrong its like Rocky IIPosted July 2, 2014 7:59 pm
The oracle of Delphi
Very lame to play the race card on Mayweather critics…he is widely considered as an amazing boxer, but at the same time as unlikable by most…I am a huge fan of Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Tyson, Mosley, and many other African Americans fighters, also admire Asian fighters and of course many Mexican fighters and Eastern European fighters. I don’t like Mayweather, and that makes me a racist??? GTFO you idiot!Posted July 2, 2014 6:55 pm
Canelo won a few rounds at best , that was a one sided fight . Money was in a fight of life with maidana and he should get his rematch but he need to go for the ko .Posted July 2, 2014 6:52 pm
The oracle of Delphi
Mayweather supporters = ignorant; sad but true…Posted July 2, 2014 6:50 pm
Mayweather Haters = RACISTS !!!! Sad but True.Posted July 2, 2014 6:33 pm
I hope Maidana demands at least 5 million for their second fight. He got robbed in the first one.Posted July 2, 2014 6:24 pm
“Miadana tried everything but the kitchen sink and still his dirty tactics didnt nad will never work”
Floyd also fought dirty, using his forearms and elbows as usual. The ref was equally “blind” for both fighters.Posted July 2, 2014 6:24 pm
“Why doesn’t Floyd rematch Canelo???”
Very good question. Answer: Because Floyd knows he got a gift win over Maidana in their first fight. Now he wants to prove it was no fluke.Posted July 2, 2014 6:22 pm
It’s worse than that he’s dead gym
Wow great tactics TARK.
Oh wait did I say great. I meant retarded.Posted July 2, 2014 6:10 pm
Floyd will expect Maidana to be the man from Hell in the 1st round — to set the tone… I would have Maidana box very defensively in the first round and try his best to get some sharp jabs in — try to steal the round and confuse Floyd — and then go ape shlt in the 2nd round for the 3 minutes … attack like Floyd slapped your mother.
When you get 2 rounds ahead Floyd he gets aggressive… I thought Shane Mosely was in a great position starting round 3.. He was up 2-zip, but Shane wasn’t mentally prepared for Floyd to attack that hard..
When Floyd comes after you you can’t be surprised and think “WTF is he doing?” ..You have to expect that – and throw like crazy. You can even give a little ground, but keep throwing and you’ll catch him.Posted July 2, 2014 6:02 pm
em sti wonk ton uoy nac wohPosted July 2, 2014 5:19 pm
Floyd didn’t want to fight toe to toe, he was forced against the ropes by Maidana. Unfortunately for Maidana he couldn’t maintain the same pressure in the second half of the fight. If Marcos can improve his stamina and speed a little bit he can win this fight.Posted July 2, 2014 5:09 pm
Boxtradamus put down the crack pipe Miadana tried everything but the kitchen sink and still his dirty tactics didnt nad will never work, This time I see the reff doing his dam job and it will be a totally different fight…Posted July 2, 2014 5:04 pm
well said…I would not fight him again as the back Floyd’s head prob still ringing.Posted July 2, 2014 3:51 pm
Truth of the matter. Mayweather knows he lost that fight, that’s why he is giving a rematch. Just when he lost against Louis Castillo, he had a rematch. If anyone think different, he would have given Cotto a rematch. Wise up fight fans, Mr. Money Mayweather does not give re matches unless he loose.Posted July 2, 2014 3:21 pm
Al Haymons advisor
Maidana is a very dirty fighter and foyght a dirty fight againt floyd. He did what he had to do but Tony Weeks had an AWFUL night. The amount of blows maidana threw to the back of floyds head was ridiculous. And no floyd was not ducking. He was holding and hitting and even thre in a knee for good measure. He done this throughout the fight and did not even get 1 point deducted. I commend maidan for his efforts and like I said he did what he needed to do but there is no way in hell heats mayweather in a BOXING match so come september as long as the ref is half decent it should be a str8 forward night for floyd.Posted July 2, 2014 2:39 pm
Mayweather loses 2nd time around.Posted July 2, 2014 1:00 pm
Maidana by KO this time inside of 8 rounds. Floyd has had a great run but it is about to end. Skills win but power wins over fading skills. The signs are there that the end is near. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted July 2, 2014 12:59 pm
May by a pot pouri of pot shots. Oh lord, make him retire.Posted July 2, 2014 12:57 pm
Floyd will not rematch Canelo because many would agree that it was one of his EASIEST fights in his career yet the Maidana fight is deemed to be his 2nd toughest fight after Castillo 1.Posted July 2, 2014 12:24 pm
@FRAUD MAYWEATHER…Floyd and his team were smart to pay Marcos to change his gloves. He probably knew Marcos was going to fight “dirty” by rabbit punching behind the head and hitting below the belt 4-5 times…he wanted to protect his balls.Posted July 2, 2014 12:17 pm
If he still has his legs.Posted July 2, 2014 11:08 am
funny article lol – did you watch the fight Vitali?Posted July 2, 2014 11:00 am
This will be an easy fight for Floyd. In the first fight, Mayweather went toe to toe with Maidana. This time he’ll box and move. Maidana won’t be able to find him. Glad I ordered the first fight, but I won’t order this one-sided fight.Posted July 2, 2014 10:40 am
Hell yeah Floyd will move more and not fight toe to toePosted July 2, 2014 10:00 am
Mayweather is a clown and a disgrace to the sport, the sooner the dude leaves the better.Posted July 2, 2014 9:55 am
Blaze, how does Floyd just “choose PacMan” UNLESS you are really discussing Manny as if he is just a regular B side opponent? Absolutely NO responsibility is put on Manny who’s ability to advocate for himself is rarely called into question because he is not an orator in English but nonetheless his God filled soundbites are rarely aggressive or direct…Posted July 2, 2014 9:46 am
If Floyd’s not gonna choose Pac, then Maidana isn’t a terrible choice though I can think of a couple fighters I’d rather see him fight. On the other hand, I wonder why nobody seems to be interested in unifying the titles. Why doesn’t anyone want to be undisputed champ anymore?Posted July 2, 2014 9:43 am
The commission approved the red gloves, which are standard gloves, but Mayweather’s camp said no. Sounds like they’re afraid of this guy. The red gloves are “puncher’s gloves”. They even offered to use another pair of gloves, and Mayweather’s camp said no to those as well. So they’ve turned down three pairs, one of which they were correct in doing so. If the gloves are approved, he has no right to cancel the fight. If he doesn’t fight, he’s going to be sued, guarantee that.Posted July 2, 2014 9:41 am
Papo … Mike Tyson was doing 1.5 million – 2.5 million PPVs in the 1990s. The arguments have gone sideways and confusing. Let me clarify.
This article was about hype. I think that is insulting to Floyd Mayweather and insulting to boxing fans
– 850,000 boxing fans don’t pay $65 to watch Mayweather because of hype
Mayweather is probably the greatest “technical” fighter in the history of the sport. Mayweather is a magician. Mayweather is “Houdini.” 850,000 boxing fans want to see Mayweather perform magic tricks. They want to see Mayweather get in out of death-defying situations like Houdini. It has nothing to do with hype or marketing or promotion. Hulk Hogan does hype. Vince McMahon does hype. Mayweather does great boxing.
Problem is that great boxing is less interesting than knockouts. Since there is no great heavyweight knockout fighter today — then Canelo Alvarez will likely be the king of PPV because he is power puncher with a big ethnic fan base.
If Alvarez vs. Lara gets to 700,000 or 750,000 then it would be clear that Alvarez will be the king of PPV and Floyd Mayweather will be less relevant.
In my opinion, boxing fans want Alvarez vs. Cotto in maybe 2 great fights. Boxing fans want Alvarez vs. Golovkin in 2 great fights. If this is happens this would be 4-5 fights with probably 2+ million PPV.
Other than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao there is nothing Floyd can do to top that. It doesn’t mean that Floyd isn’t great. It only means that Floyd is more technical and that only goes so far.Posted July 2, 2014 9:24 am
What a fraud Mayweather is. He paid Maidana $1.5 M not to wear a pair of gloves that had been approved by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
Maidana wanted to wear a pair or gloves that had been approved by the Nevada State Athletic Commission but Mayweather objected. The gloves were considered better gloves for a puncher and Maidana is known for his power. So the sides made a deal for Maidana to change gloves the day before the fight.
Although neither side would disclose the terms of the deal — or even admit that there was one — sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN dot com that Mayweather agreed to pay Maidana an additional $1.5 million to change gloves. That doubled Maidana’s official purse, which was $1.5 million on his Nevada contract. However, sources told ESPN dot com that Maidana was guaranteed $4.2 million and wound up earning at least $5.7 million, including the payment for the gloves change.Posted July 2, 2014 9:11 am
Floyd is going to box his ears off….no need to buy the inevitable outcome will be a wide UD…Floyd’s not going to fight the same way again.Posted July 2, 2014 8:59 am
Chino is going to win by KO Floyd is not the same fighter he looked like a old man, but MANNY LOOKED GREAT HIS LAST FIGHTPosted July 2, 2014 8:55 am
Bo Bo Olson
Austin Trout said.., “My fight with Canelo was close. I’m not complaining about the loss, but after reviewing the fight, I felt I did enough to win 7 rounds. The Lara fight I lost every round. I never boxed anyone so fast or saw moves like he put on me.”
WoW!!! It is seldom a boxer is so brutally honest. Respect!Posted July 2, 2014 8:28 am
Love-the-Sport, I can see your point somewhat, but to be fair, PPV was not solidly established when Floyd was coming up as a professional. That’s the main reason why it took him “almost 10 years as a professional before he did his first featured PPV event”. Canelo’s career, on the other hand, began when PPV became the norm, rather than the exception; not just for decent fights, but even for matches not worthy of PPV status.
Trying to be reasonable, one could compare PPV numbers from the date when Canelo had his first PPV event up until today. However, that wouldn’t be fair to Canelo either as Floyd has been around much longer or is more recognizable in the sport of boxing.
Either way, you cannot compare Canelo rising in PPV events to Floyd’s due to many factors, but especially due to the fact that PPV was in its infancy when Floyd began his professional career, while it had already been established when Canelo took center stage in the sport of boxing.
However, nowadays PPV has not much to do with the quality of the boxing match, but rather promotional skills. A few fights come to mind, Angulo-Canelo or Floyd-Guerrero. Were those fights worthy of PPV status? I don’t think so. But they had a promotional machine behind them and people fell for the hype.Posted July 2, 2014 8:22 am
Meant to say “Lara outpunched Cotto by a wide margin and completely dominated him.”Posted July 2, 2014 8:15 am
enough already says.., “Lara is good but he is slow”
LMFAO!!!! … Lara is so slow Trout could barely touch him with a significant punch in 12 rounds — and so slow that he outpunched Lara by a wide margin and completely dominated him.
Funny thing is, the slick boxing and quick fisted Trout completely dominated Cotto — and also outpunched Canelo by a significant number of punches. The only reason Canelo won is his punches were harder and did more damage … in the expert opinion of the 3 judges.
I do believe Lara has to dominate… The judges will want the cute, freckle faced, redheaded, Irish looking Mexican idol to win — so Lara will have to create a lot of separation like he did with Lara.
After the Paul Williams debacle his trainer told him. “Don’t cry about it. Every sportswriter and commentator says you won. Everybody I talked to said the decision was the worst joke they’ve ever seen. But you’re Cuban. To beat an American or Mexican you’re going to have to beat these guys so badly that their own mother wouldn’t give them the round.”
Austin Trout said.., “My fight with Canelo was close. I’m not complaining about the loss, but after reviewing the fight, I felt I did enough to win 7 rounds. The Lara fight I lost every round. I never boxed anyone so fast or saw moves like he put on me. I trained so hard for that fight and expected to win. I had my whole family there. I believe Lara’s going to surprise Canelo and outbox him, but he needs to beat him really bad to get the decision.
You saw that judge’s scorecard when Floyd fought Canelo. That’s the problem when you fight someone as popular as Canelo. The judges want him to win. The promoters want him to win. Human beings judge these fights – you can’t let those rounds be close.”Posted July 2, 2014 8:13 am
Maidana hugging Floyd for 12 rounds, please give us Cotto rematch instead. That was a much more competetive fight than the hugfest.Posted July 2, 2014 8:03 am
Floyd will win this rematch. I have a feeling he will have a fairly tough fight but will edge out a win. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted July 2, 2014 7:40 am
What a joke, of course Floyd wants to rematch a kid he schooled alreadyPosted July 2, 2014 7:38 am
PEEJ is slow … I keep having to educate this guy.
Canelo Alvarez started fighting when he was 13 as an amateur and he had roughly 20 amateur fights. He started fighting professionally when he was 15. My understanding is that boxing in Mexico has a wide range of sophistication and some of these fights could be not much more than barroom contests.
Floyd Mayweather starting fighting when he was 6 and began to seriously compete as an amateur when he was 15 winning golden gloves championships and ultimately a bronze medal in the olympics before becoming one of the most highly celebrated and most highly watched young professional boxers in the history of the sport. Floyd had many of his early fights on TV.
Given all of these promotional advantages — it still took Floyd Mayweather almost 10 years as a professional before he did his first featured PPV event.
Can we all agree that Canelo Alvarez is accomplishing more at a much younger age than Floyd in the world of PPV?
Can we all agree that PEEJ is a moron?
Lastly, my point was that the article misses the point. Floyd is not getting paid because of great hype. Floyd is getting paid because he has great LEVERAGE. He played HBO and Showtime against each other and got the most money. It has nothing to do with hype. The hype has not generated huge PPV.Posted July 2, 2014 7:29 am
I agree with you on that to slim. He needs to come in a little more heavier fight night. Floyd needs to keep maidana off him.Posted July 2, 2014 5:58 am
Ah ok. Thought you was saying he needs to hydrate 15lbs. I do it that will happen to. Heck fight day against Canelo he said he woke up at 146. He weighed in at 151 the day beforePosted July 2, 2014 3:43 am
Yeah no sht…he needs to hydrate up around 151 on fight night. Marcos weighed 164lbs on fight night, that’s what I meant.Posted July 2, 2014 3:17 am
Floyd will never be able to put 15 to 17 pounds on from 147Posted July 2, 2014 1:30 am
Why a rematch, Maidana doesn’t have the skillsPosted July 2, 2014 1:11 am
Floyd better put more meat in his diet and not come in weighing 148lbs on fight night. lol… he better hydrate up a few more pounds this time. Pushing 15-17 pounds that’s not joke for guys that small..Posted July 2, 2014 1:09 am
Rope a Dope in early rounds and jab and run in the late rounds.
Floyd basically needs to get maidana to respect his punching power. If he can’t, maidana will keep it coming once again. Floyds speed, and skills wasn’t enough to keep him off the last fight. Maidana can do the same with out the fouls.Posted July 1, 2014 11:08 pm
Imo yes Floyd will fight pretty much the same way. 2 reasons odviously he isnt as fleet of foot as he use to be and he wants to preserve energy for the 2nd half. It takes alot of energy to move against a guy like Chino so Floyd cannot put himself in a position to fatigue late in the fight. I was surprised Chino wasn’t tired late he kept up some pace. At this point in his career tough matchup for Floyd.Posted July 1, 2014 10:58 pm
Floyd is going to fight way different. He’s going to stay on the move… keep his distance better… More feints… More jabs to the abs… More straight rights… More lead left hooks… More combinations… He’ll be a lot busier.
He’ll have a referee — probably Robert Byrd — who will keep his mouth going, keep his finger waggin, take points, and generally stay on Maidana’s case about deliberate fouls… You may see a DQ — because that would almost have been appropriate last time.Posted July 1, 2014 10:49 pm
Papo good thread!Posted July 1, 2014 10:46 pm
stupid question.Posted July 1, 2014 9:54 pm
I want to keep this to the point but must first answer Te Tumbo’s question who asked, “Why doesn’t Floyd rematch Canelo?
Well, let’s see; Maidana deserves a rematch due to his effectiveness against Floyd. Canelo, on the other hand, was schooled by Floyd, se he didn’t earn the rematch.
Now, will we see a different Floyd against Maidana this time around? I do think he’ll box more this time around and try to keep the fight in the center of the ring. Similar to what Sugar Ray did against Duran on their rematch. However, I remember Duran being out of shape for the rematch and Leonard was still fairly young. Floyd is getting older so he won’t be as mobile, but still fast enough to keep the slower Maidana at the end of his punches.
We all know what Maidana will bring to the table, an aggressive coming forward style, but it’s also the type of opponent Floyd needs at this point of his career. He can pick and choose his punches and get out of the way. I wish Maidana well and also wish he could at least one knockdown, but Floyd is too much of a smart/gifted fighter to make the same mistake twice. I believe he’ll school Maidana this time around.Posted July 1, 2014 9:45 pm
If Lara beat Canelo then Yes he will most likely face Floyd he hasnt been tested Canelo is a test. Lara is good but he is slow and Floyd will school him. He is too big and slow. Floyd is not Trout or Canelo I dont think these guys at 154 can beat him. Canelo, Cotto and Lara he schools and picks apart like he did Oscar.Posted July 1, 2014 9:42 pm
And if Canelo beats Lara which I am thinking he is gonna do then yes he is gonna be a future PPV star. I am not questioning that. You are just trying to down play Floyds PPV numbers. But your point is not justified.Posted July 1, 2014 9:32 pm
You do realize that it took Canelo to have 40 something fights before he was the main event on a PPV right. So your point is well pointless. Canelo has been fighting since he was 15. Floyd didn’t turn professional till later in his career. So like I said your point is pointless. And thanks for point out that he is at the end of his PPV career captain obvious. He is only fighting 3 more times. And since Canelo is only in his 20s yes his PPV career is just starting and will be still going on till after Floyd retires. There is a reason Floyd left Top Rank and that is because they were not promoting him correctlyPosted July 1, 2014 9:27 pm
and they need to pay Marquez his 20 million if they want a 5th fight.Posted July 1, 2014 9:25 pm
Floyd can’t help that someone was so scared of needles that they turned down 40 million. I’ll take a bullet to the arm and you can’t one of my thumbs for 40 Million.Posted July 1, 2014 9:23 pm
Ok Floyd you are the “greatest”..don’t waste your time with bums.
I am hoping that the May 2015 surprise by Floyd is Pacquiao, to give us something to be excited about, of course he got to win with Maidana first and Pacquiao with his next opponent on November, I like to ends floyd and Pacquiao fans war of words.Posted July 1, 2014 7:56 pm
The way Marcos was hitting below the belt he better not give him smaller gloves..Posted July 1, 2014 7:30 pm
I would think that there may be a stipulation in the contract saying he can only gain so much weight on fight night. I bet Maidana gets the gloves he wants. I thought Floyd would be able to stop him in the first fight. But after watching it I will say Floyd wins another decision. The fight will be fought somewhat like the first fight because that is what Maidana does. But there will be more boxing and moving also.Posted July 1, 2014 7:24 pm
Floyd had real big PPV numbers against Oscar too…Posted July 1, 2014 7:23 pm
People are always hating on Floyds PPV numbers. He does the best numbers no matter who he is fighting. I am guessing the last fight didn’t to a mil since the numbers were not released but this fight probably will because of how close the first fight was. But what gets you the big numbers is good under cards. Floyds last fight didn’t have that great of an under card. But if you look at the numbers he does yes he is gonna get paid big bucks. Saying all the fans that watched the Floyd vs Canelo fights is ridiculous. How many PPVs did Canelo sell vs Angulo? What like 350 thousand or so? If he brought in that many fans vs Floyd then why didn’t he bring that in with Angulo? How many PPV sells happened with the Cotto vs Martinez? What another 350 or 400 thousand. Your math is way off.Posted July 1, 2014 7:23 pm
No! Same style never seen different! He will need to find away to demand things in his advantage. Bigger size of gloves please. Bigger than the first fight!Posted July 1, 2014 7:19 pm
The author (Vitali Shaposhinikov) does not understand business and money.
Floyd Mayweather is the highest paid athlete in the world for only one reason …
BECAUSE A BIG COMPANY IS WILLING TO PAY FLOYD MAYWEATHER SO MUCH MONEY.
CBS / Showtime is paying Floyd Mayweather. This is business. It is simple. It has nothing to do with hype. Floyd PPV fight performance has been mixed. The only big number (2.5 million buys) was Mayweather – Alvarez fight and this was big not because of Mayweather but because of Alvarez.
Hype did not help Floyd generate much PPV for Mayweather vs. Guerrero. Hype did not help Floyd generate much PPV for Mayweather vs. Maidana. These fights were around 850,000 buys.
In fact, Alvarez vs. Lara PPV will probably get close to that number. And if Alvarez vs. Lara PPV does get close (750,000 or 800,000 or 850,000) then Canelo Alvarez would really become the definitive PPV attraction in the sport and he would solidify this with a PPV with Cotto. Alvarez vs. Cotto would probably do more than the 2.5 million Mayweather vs. Alvarez.
Alvarez is probably the new king of boxing PPV.
To say that hype is the magic or secret to success is stupid.
In boxing today the only thing that matters is to have either an ethnic (Mexican, Puerto Rican, Chinese) or regional fan following. Alvarez is probably the new king.
The only thing that would change that would be if the May 5 fight in 2015 was Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. If Mayweather vs. Pacquiao happens then this might be a 3.5 million or even 4.0 million PPV fight which would be unbelievable. But it would really probably the end of the careers for Floyd and Manny. Alvarez is probably the future.Posted July 1, 2014 7:01 pm
He can go funk himself.Posted July 1, 2014 6:12 pm
Anything to dodge the Pacquiao fight. What a joke! Great and well deserved payday for Maidana but the extra $$ in this fight is for him to lay off the pressure. Another FMJ set up.Posted July 1, 2014 5:27 pm
If his legs aren’t shot. He has found out he can’t slug with Maidana.Posted July 1, 2014 5:08 pm
Rudy the Ram
Both guys should fight other fighters. Thurman and Porter have established themselves in the division. Maidana would be a great opponent for Bradley or PacqiouPosted July 1, 2014 5:00 pm
Kermit the Pig
Mayweather vs Maidana 2
???????wtf???He doesn’t need to fight Maidana again it wasn’t even close the first time just different….damn it I don’t wanna watch this fight again.Posted July 1, 2014 4:57 pm
who caresPosted July 1, 2014 4:38 pm
Marcos no chance…this to mislead not so bright fight fans..but us real fighy fans know this is a handpicked guyPosted July 1, 2014 4:34 pm
I think the question should be “Can Mayweather fight a different fight in a rematch?” I think Mayweather was and still is a special boxer. To this point in his career he has relied on reflexes and speed to win his fights. Say what you want about Maidana and how rough he is. Fact was Mayweather could not keep him off until late when Maidana faded a bit. Head butts, elbows, knees, possibly a folding chair while the ref isn’t looking will all be a part of the rematch. Can Mayweather’s legs carry him for 12 hard rounds? Shafer is no longer with Golden Boy, will Oscar give everything Mayweather asks for the way Schafer did? Has time caught up to Mayweather? Mayweather should delay his fight and just face Kahn in England. It’s the safer of the two.Posted July 1, 2014 4:13 pm
Yeah Kato, Maidana just slacked off because he was bored? none of those clean headshots had anything to do with it or the fact that Floyd does not get tired and stays sharp when the regular boxer begins to fade?…Mayweather is going in there to make it easy and it looked easiest when he stayed off the ropes and fought in an offensive manner… There is no question that he can get off first and if he lets his hands go Maidana has to eat leather and reset… If FMJ is active and keeps turning you are gonna see a lot of lunging and missing.Posted July 1, 2014 4:12 pm
DOES ANYONE REALLY GIVE A DAMN…Posted July 1, 2014 4:03 pm
Anyone who thinks Floyd will stop Maidana is truly delusional. Unless of course he sucker-punches him like Ortiz…. Another 12 rnd decision… If Maidana can control the fight for more than 5 or 6 rounds… Maidana wins…
The 1st fight Maidana controlled the first half of the fight… but he wilted in the second half. Maytwitter wasn’t doing a helluva a lot… Maidana just went on cruise control for a bit and before you knew it the 12th round rolled around.Posted July 1, 2014 3:53 pm
He is not going to fight the same fight he can take a beating . He is going to get some good fights on the undercard so that he can make money. The main event is going to be the same old mayweather running all over the ring .Posted July 1, 2014 3:49 pm
After all these years Mayweather’s still doing all he can to avoid Manny Pacquiao……what a coward!
Maidana wore regulation Everlast gloves… They didn’t allow him to wear his own gloves he brought from home.
Anything wrong with that? He’s not going to wear anything packed harder in the rematch. Why would he? Do you get to wear your own gloves in a boxing match unless you’re somebody like Sugar Ray Leonard or Muhammad Ali? So far I’ve seen about 6 boxers in 5000 get to wear the gloves they brought to the dance. You wear the gloves they give you or you don’t fight.Posted July 1, 2014 3:43 pm
Just as well they don’t go 15 rounds these days.Posted July 1, 2014 3:42 pm
mayweather promised to stand toe to toe with RG, he ran. his legs are old. the ref will take points from chino this time aroundPosted July 1, 2014 3:33 pm
Chino needs a k.o. and that wont happen!Posted July 1, 2014 3:20 pm
All Floyd has to do is last the 12 rounds, make it close and he’ll get the decision anyway, lol!Posted July 1, 2014 3:18 pm
I meant this fight will look like floyd vs castillo pt 2 w floyd making adjustments and winning easily after a rough n tough 1st fight!Posted July 1, 2014 3:13 pm
Floyd will make the adjustments and win easily. This will look like floyd vs castillo pt. 1st fight was tough. Rematch total floyd domination. Floyd will not stay on the ropes and trade he will box n move some but not alot. But props to chino he fought the figgt of his life! Cant see him duplicating that same intensity. Floyd by wide ud!Posted July 1, 2014 3:12 pm
I agree w/ bulldog. This fight is going to bore our collective asses off I’m afraid.
Floyd will box, move, and school Marcos. I was hoping for pacquiao or porter myself. I love a little excitement with my fights. Speedy guys who can shift into fifth gear. Marcos couldn’t even upshift v Adrien B when he had a wounded foe dead in front of him.Posted July 1, 2014 3:09 pm
Maidana will knock Mayweather out this time. He won the first fight. Mayweather never hurt chino. This time he will be permanently retiredPosted July 1, 2014 3:08 pm
Mayweather’s fighting style last fight was all choice. Anyone that witnessed his movement against Robert G., would know that. He is going to dance circles around Maidana. This is a waste of a fight.Posted July 1, 2014 2:47 pm
Yep, I had this a draw also. Like to dispel one myth. Mayweather was flatfooted not by choice. Maidanas aggression and Floyds legs had a lot to do with that so called ” choice”. His 37 year old legs ain’t the same. Roach is on point here.Posted July 1, 2014 1:51 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
I felt that the 1st match was a Draw.
as far as i know floyds opponent is still TBA.Posted July 1, 2014 1:37 pm
Why doesn’t Floyd rematch Canelo???Posted July 1, 2014 1:35 pm
Floyd will stop maidana this time around. He will be going to maidanas body early and often. Look for late round tko.Posted July 1, 2014 1:25 pm
Bo Bo Olson
After the fighting lesson and it was, the boxing lesson.
Floyd by RABBIT taming LANDSLIDE.Posted July 1, 2014 1:15 pm