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te tumbo

“tell me you don’t agree with that drunk judge that gave Canelo 9 rounds” STOP trying to change the subject. the right and better man won. what are you pissin and moanin about? Btw, Texas also happens to be a favorite sanctuary of Pacquiao* . . . just saying.

Posted April 23, 2013 2:20 am 


so it wasnt just me? i thought i was tripping when i saw it!

Posted April 22, 2013 5:40 pm 

philly shell

murderman – I noticed the same thing – they actually started putting the belts on Canelo BEFORE they read the scores… What a farse…

Posted April 22, 2013 5:04 pm 

philly shell

I know we need to do something to make the judges more honest, but this isn’t working (evident by the crappy scoring of the fight), and just wound up slowing Alvarez down because he already knew he was winning. How about going back to the old way of scoring but hiring competant and uncorrupted judges, and then firing the judges who don’t fit that description?? Am I right?

Posted April 22, 2013 5:03 pm 


Te Tumbo my friend, calm down. Canelo was given a decision that is very questionable, and well it should be. Please tell me you don’t agree with that drunk judge that gave Canelo 9 rounds. If you do agree with him than your bias for Canelo has blinded your ability to judge this fight correctly. I watched the fight for the 3rd time, and I will say again, this fight was not scored appropriately. Canelo fights in spurts landing 1-2 clean power punches and the judges give him the round? Believe me, I know how to judge a fight, and although I have my favorite fighters that I occasionally go overboard with, this fight points to the obvious. Canelo is the young Mexican fighter that many crown as the new Mexican icon. First the fight is in Texas, second there’s no rematch clause, third you hire an incompetent judge that has a ridiculous score card. How much money do you think GBP is making off of this guy? Sure he has talent, heart and very good skills, but he did not earn the victory. And as far as Trout is concerned, he saw the replay and believes he won the fight. Fighters have to see the fight themselves to make an accurate assessment. Please look at the score cards of the judges and you’ll see how ridiculous some of them are. Canelo should not fight Martinez, Lara Golovkin or Mayweather for awhile. He’s not ready for any of them. Just because he showed some defense and he moved doesn’t mean he’s great in any way. Lookat the punch output that doesn’t lie, and you’ll see the winner. And I like canelo a lot, but my eyes did not fool me on this one. Trout should have won. As far as the conspiracy theory goes, all you have to do is think outside of the box, be honest with yourself, and look at the whole fight set up from all angles. is it a coincidence that the fight was held in Texas? Boxing is and always been corrupt as has been proven time and time again. Not every fight, but quite a few especially when it comes to $$$$$. And I hope you don’t still believe Pacquiao lost to Bradley. Corruption continues. Who’s going to bring in more money Trout or Canelo?

Posted April 22, 2013 12:59 pm 

Public Enemy

The fight was over when it was announced and when they said it would be in Texas, the most corrupt place for Boxing outside of Tijauana…

Posted April 22, 2013 12:31 pm 


They were giving canelo both belts before the decision was even announced! Hmmmm?

Posted April 22, 2013 11:09 am 

te tumbo

HECDOG, no wonder you aren’t able to form an accurate opinion about the result of this fight. you have so many conspiracy theories rattling around in your paranoid and Marquez-traumatized mind that you simply can’t see or think straight)?!). perhaps the following first-hand account of what actually happened will clarify the facts for you: “Canelo shocked us. He boxed a lot better than I thought. He moved a lot better than I thought. Not that I underestimated him, we just prepared for a totally different fighter. HE WAS THE BETTER MAN. He was quicker. He was stronger. I have no excuses for tonight. HE WAS THE BETTER MAN”. you only sound like a clueless imbecile to insist on disputing Trout’s own account of how he lost this bout, which doesn’t even hint at the frustration you and others like you are feeling for Canelo’s convincing win. Face It: Canelo may actually exceed the “hype”.

Posted April 22, 2013 10:34 am 

Exiled Yank

I don;t have an issue with Canelo’s win. The fight was close and wither man could have walked away with the championship. I do have a problem with the margins that two judges had for Canelo. No on in their right mind could possibly think Canelo won nine rounds. It’s ridiculous!

Posted April 22, 2013 9:21 am 

Exiled Yank

Boxing is the only sport that I know of where the athletes do not know the score. Open scoring would have affected so many fights over the years. Imagine if DLH knew he was behind Tito, or JMM behind Pac in their 3rd fight, and so many more. I also think open scoring will keep judges honest if they have to post their scores for the entire crowd to see. As for affecting the end of the fight, sure it did, but how many football teams play the last two minutes of a game like they might be losing if they are up 3 touch downs. Open scoring lets fighters know what the points are and it gives them a chance to change their game plan. It’s only fait to have open scoring. Again, outside of cambat sports, what other sports withhold the score until the end of the match?

Posted April 22, 2013 9:19 am 


Te Tumbo, I watched that fight for the second time. No way Canelo deserved that win. He was wild quite a few times with that looping right hand, and I noticed that he lunges in with that punch. His punch output was horrible. You can’t win a fight by throwing 1-2 power punches in each round and the crowd cheering at every punch you throw. Did the judges even count trout’s straight left to the body that hit every single time? How about his jabs? Sure he missed punches, but he landed much more than Canelo. I was watching the fight with 25 other people, and we all scored it for Trout. 15 of those guys love Canelo and wanted him to win, but they all agreed that Trout got screwed especially by that one blind judge. Canelo is good and will get better, but the fix was in last night GBP can’t afford to lose their cash cow, and the BS open scoring was a disaster. And no rematch clause? This was a bad set up from the get go. I had picked Canelo to win, but he did nothing but show some defense and throw a few hard punches, wich wasn’t nearly enough to earn a decision. The one judge might have well turned his score card in before the fight started. His score card was a disgrace. And I like Canelo, but he did not win. Don’t get caught up with the crowd noise and the commentating. Trout is a class guy all the way around, and if they don’t give him a rematch, you know why. GBP has a gold mine with all of Mexico behind Canelo. Do you really think he’s going to lose. Why do you think the fight was in Texas? Boxing continues it’s corruption.

Posted April 22, 2013 1:03 am 

te tumbo

HECDOG, you are WRONG, Again. an excellent performance by Canelo. explosive yet poised and economical. Btw, i just rewatched round 7 and No F’n Way Canelo lost the rest of that round following the KD. in fact, Saul teed-off and wobbled Trout a couple times more before that round was over. Canelo’s command of the combat space was also impressive. getting full extension on his punches while staying out of range of Trout who was consistently missing 3, 4, 5, 6(?!?) punches in a row. it almost seemed as if Canelo was toying with Trout by leveraging the threat of his powerpunches to make Trout work (and mostly miss) every second of each round. Trout was outboxed, outpunched, and outsmarted. he admitted as much afterwards when he gave the decision his personal seal of approval. what more does anybody need to see and hear?

Posted April 21, 2013 11:10 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn – Gonzo, Einstein, Da Vinci, Tesla, Newton, Aristotle, Shakespeare

Why is Frightened Floyd so scared of fighting him if he’s such a ”fraud” then? That lil’ baboon-eyed charlatan craps his pants whenever a legitimate threat is on the prowl and then he smears his caca all over his head and visage to camouflage himself and bolts back into the darkest corner of the chicken coop until the coast is clear.

Posted April 21, 2013 8:09 pm 


WOW!! I just watched the fight for the first time, and I had picked Canelo to win, but I watched it round by round with and without the commentating, and I have to say Austin Trout won that fight. Canelo wasn’t nearly busy enough. I’m not surprised the decision was given to Canelo because he’s obviously GBP cash cow and he has a huge Mexican following. He did not win the fight. If the that fight had been anywhere else, it would have been scored for trout or at the least a draw. The open scoring is crap!!!

Posted April 21, 2013 6:55 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn – Gonzo, Einstein, Da Vinci, Tesla, Newton, Aristotle, Shakespeare

Public Enema.. Caleno deliberately let Trout last the distance in order to try and temp Baboon-eyed Floyd into fighting him. He could’ve taken Trout out of there at any point of the fight had he really wanted to get him out of there.

Posted April 21, 2013 6:23 pm 

horst fraze

open scoring ruined this fight for the fans. once i realized that trout would need a kayo to win, it was basically over. i want a refund.

Posted April 21, 2013 5:56 pm 

Public Enemy

El Dumbo – also, how did Rigo take it out of the hands of the Judges you idiot?? Rigo didn’t KO nonito.. he was given the Rounds he won.. and if Trout was given the Rounds he won he too would’ve gotten the win…

Posted April 21, 2013 2:37 pm 

te tumbo

Rigondeaux took his fight v. Donaire out of the judges hands. THAT’s how it’s done when the technical mismatch that everyone was predicting in favor of Trout actually materialized in favor of Canelo. Btw, DLH never did get his rematch v. Trinidud who immediately bolted to 154lbs nor was the bogus rematch verdict v. Mosley ever overturned. not even after Shane admitted to juicing for that bout. as if the decision wasn’t bogus enough already. don’t know of any other DLH bouts where a scoring controversy warranted a rematch that DLH actually got. however, there is no controversy. Canelo won by UD fair and square. just ask Trout.

Posted April 21, 2013 2:29 pm 


As a matter of fact with the way Oscar complained about the scoring in some of his fights he would also want an immediate rematch also

Posted April 21, 2013 1:17 pm 


Trout is not a puncher so saying why didn’t he take it out of the judges hands is ridiculous. Trout has good boxing skills and with those skills I felt he won a ver close fight but also it could have gone either way. Even after the knockdown Trout controlled the rest of that roind convincingly. They need non WBC officials in an immediate rematch

Posted April 21, 2013 1:12 pm 

te tumbo

if the “redhead” is such hype, why couldn’t Trout simply take the verdict out of the judges hands and expose him?

Posted April 21, 2013 12:50 pm 

Pete Wells

They should have told Trout what the score cards were before he walk to the ring. The guy had already lost the fight before he arrived at the arena. All this hype about the Red Head boy needing a challenge doesn’t fool me. He’s still green & no were near in the class of Mayweather. That coked up ODH is still trying to find someone to avenge Floyd whopping his ass he thinks last night gives this boy legitimacy. It doesn’t, Trout wasn’t given a fair shake from what the judges had on their score cards. Sure th figh was close but you couldn’t tell it from the scoring & neither fighter did anything spectacular to warrant a spot on the big stage. Freckles only have a following because he’s Mexican. I still feel Floyd schools the boy….

Posted April 21, 2013 12:44 pm 

te tumbo

Ciani writes as if Canelo simply gave away the final two rounds. what actually happened was Canelo beginning to tee-off on the incoming Trout who knew he needed to put Canelo down if not out to win. Alvarez actively tried to exploit that opportunity for a more decisive win, which was still pretty convincing. Trout was simply unable to consistently score with solid shots. he got Canelo’s attention a couple of times but what Saul mostly displayed during Trout’s flurries was brilliant punch-avoiding head-movement that was reminiscent of prime Duran or Whittaker. Canelo was able to deck and wobble Trout several times during the bout but did fail to close the show. turns out Canelo is a “hit without getting hit” kind of guy(?!). anyway it was an expertly-executed win for Canelo who established his status as top-dog at 154lbs . . . let’s hear the clamor for Trout to face Lara or Thurman.

Posted April 21, 2013 12:38 pm 


Trout was not exposed. I think he should of won this fight by a round or 2. It was a close fight though and won’t argue if you had Canelo winning by a round or 2. There should be an immediate rematch with non WBC judges

Posted April 21, 2013 12:24 pm 


I COMMEND Canelo on his improvements. His head movement and footwork improved TREMENDOUSLY for this Fight.

Posted April 21, 2013 11:56 am 


Alverez stepped up, made Trout miss all night and the boy exposed Trout for what he was.

A NOBODY who beat an old bloated Cotto.

Posted April 21, 2013 11:14 am 

Public Enemy

MiateStomper – But everyone knows that True Boxing Fans from around the world and US Love nothing better then Kicking some Mexican Culito in the Ring.. and we’ve seen alot of that throughout the Years… MMA and Boxing.. nothing more satisfying then watching a sht talking Chihuahua get dropped flat on his fat Block head.. then like Angulo, Margacheato, Vargas, Salido, Eric Morales, Barrera, Arce, Luevanue, Montiel, Diaz, Arreola, etc etc etc.. then have them testing positive for steriods..or with Bricks in their Gloves

Posted April 21, 2013 10:53 am 


Public enemy Floyd Mayweather has beaten many not just Mexicans. Ellerbee say’s he’s better in the sack than in the ring

Posted April 21, 2013 10:42 am 

Jay rock

Trout lost, Sual beat him and have away rounds lol please people stop crying it was a clean lose!

Posted April 21, 2013 10:27 am 

Gussie Finknottle

I’ve just watched the fight with no sound. I think they both fought brilliantly. When you’ve got 2 great boxers in their prime you will get a good close fight. I scored the fight to Alvarez by 2 rounds. His puncehes had more impact and Trouts punches were not accurate enough to win the rounds with their cumulative effect.

After reading some of the earlier articles I was expecting to see a robbery. I think ESB needs to review who they let write articles on this page.

Posted April 21, 2013 10:19 am 


Me personally I don’t agree with the 2 judges that gave canelo pretty much every round but in all reality he did win the fight! I scored it 7 rounds to 5 for canelo, but both fighters did something that champions dont do anymore and that’s actually fight the best, this fight will help both fighters advance!, canelos defense sure is looking sharper!

Posted April 21, 2013 10:12 am 


As usual, Ciani is the voice of reason. After 8 rounds I had canello up by just one point (the knockdown). I can only imagine what a great final stretch we might have had last night if the judges had scored it the same and both fighters knew the fight was on the table in the championship rounds.

Posted April 21, 2013 10:02 am 


Boxing is so fake. Promoters pay judges period. I’ve just about had it with this sport. Great fight, two great warriors, horrible scoring. Why keep watching if a guy has already lost before the fight even starts?

Posted April 21, 2013 9:28 am 


“The announcers where Horribly Pro Canelo.. anything Canelo did was Hyped and Anything Trout did was not talked about.. Obvious who SHO and the Announcers were behind…” P.E. did you really watch the fight? Did you really listen to the announcers? All of them: Farquar, Malignaggi, Bernstein, and the loud-mouth with the shaved head (can’t remember his name LOL!)–all of them repeatedly pointed out that Trout was busier, throwing more punches, controlling the action, etc. and they repeatedly stated when they thought Trout won rounds. They also regularly posted their own scorecards throughout the fight. So I don’t see where you get off saying the announcers were behind Canelo. They weren’t. In fact, I thought they favored Trout. But at least their scorecards were accurate and if you noticed, their scorecards changed with the flow of the fight–they did NOT favor Canelo the whole fight.

Posted April 21, 2013 9:20 am 


Incompetent or crooked scoring by judges wrecked this fight and added it to the long, long list of the Boxing Hall of Shame.” Not necessarily, Curly. Although I think judge Christodopholous’ scorecard was not realistic, you have to acknowledge that different judges look for different things in fights and from the fighters. Trout didn’t exactly sizzle last night. He was very busy, but he was also very ineffective. He didn’t hurt Canelo once. And, Canelo blocked or dodged 95% of Trouts’ punches. On the other hand, Canelo threw significantly less punches but he was much more effective when he landed. And, he got the knockdown. In any case, I don’t know–no one really knows if the scoring was “crooked.” But it sure wasn’t right. Still, it was an incredibly close fight–as I said it would be. But other than a draw, “robbery” would have been exclaimed no matter who got the win. That’s how close the fight was.

Posted April 21, 2013 9:14 am 


the scores were a joke though it was much closer tan t suggest.

Posted April 21, 2013 9:12 am 


MS Agreed, close fight the right guy won Trout thought so himself but a rematch would be welcomed it was a great fight but the open scoring did spoil it.

Posted April 21, 2013 9:10 am 

The Mad Scientist

You guys are in denial and it was a close fight but the right man won..seems like some of you cats have fallen in love with the idea of mexican fighters getting gift decisions in Texas..face it, Kid Cinnamon proved the doubters WRONG!..he has no defense WRONG!, he’s a face first plodder WRONG!, kid cant handle pressure WRONG!, he wont be able to hurt someone his own size or bigger WRONG!, WRONG!, and WRONG!

Posted April 21, 2013 8:58 am 


It makes no sense that the WBC can dictate “open” scoring to state commissions. The WBC does not own the scorecards.

BTW before the uninformed start launching into the Texas commission for the scoring, the worst score came from a South African from the WBA.

Posted April 21, 2013 8:23 am 

Public Enemy

It’s TEXAS man did you expect anything other then a Robbery??? My prediction was Trout would OutBox Canelo and then get Robbed and as we saw that’s what happened.. Canelo did no better then Cotto did vs Trout but in Canelos fight Goldenboy had bought and paid for the Texus Judges.. The announcers where Horribly Pro Canelo.. anything Canelo did was Hyped and Anything Trout did was not talked about.. Obvious who SHO and the Announcers were behind…

Posted April 21, 2013 8:17 am 


Why have they taken that decrepit old fossil Larry Merchant as commentator ?
At least before we only had to put up with his slow bumbling voice at the end, now we have to put up with the bewildered Alzheimer’s clown in his piss soaked pyjama bottoms spouting nonsense with one shoe on, inching his arse and smelling his finger

Put him in a home and poison his custard!

Posted April 21, 2013 7:21 am 

DA Man

Still undefeated an unified champ CANELO ALVAREZ. Trouts 0 had to go put a loss on his record.

Posted April 21, 2013 6:41 am 


From here on out, it is no longer, “Canelo”, but rather Saul, The Question Mark, Alvarez. Cause he sure isn’t an undefeated champion anymore.

Posted April 21, 2013 6:33 am 


had trout winning this fight by a round. no way does canelo beat mayweather

Posted April 21, 2013 6:32 am 


Incompetent or crooked scoring by judges wrecked this fight and added it to the long, long list of the Boxing Hall of Shame.

Posted April 21, 2013 6:09 am 

no clue

as for open scoring.. whoever suggested and implemented this idiocy needs to be flogged badly and thrown into the ocean.. so many amateur fights gone to pot cause one boxer knows he is ahead on the cards and gets on his bicycle we dont need this crap in pro game that’s already rotten to the core

Posted April 21, 2013 5:26 am 

no clue

wtf is this crap with .. you are posting comments too quickly? ballsup to that

Posted April 21, 2013 5:17 am 

Mr Bush

what is no doubt is the big L on Trouts record LOL that dude was throwing blanks alnight

Posted April 21, 2013 4:56 am 

The Low Blow !

Trout WON no doubt !

Posted April 21, 2013 4:33 am 


Of course it did!

Posted April 21, 2013 4:20 am 

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