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It’s Me, Ernie

Tard, strange how you can’t help being a douche…

Posted January 1, 2013 12:54 am 


Retire Haye. Please.

Posted December 31, 2012 4:11 pm 


Hi enema schnozzle…. There’s a big difference between being masterful and being flashy but you wouldn’t know… Biggs was flashy but lacked a masterful defense… He absorbed too much incoming whenever he stepped up and fought anyone who could fight.

Posted December 30, 2012 8:50 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie


Posted December 29, 2012 3:26 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

Tard, when you have time between masturbating all over your life size Klit sisters posters, watch some Biggs footage. He had a great long, fast and accurate jab, that’s what got him as far as he went. Too bad a weak chin and drugs did his career in. Also I’m calling bs on Klit vs. Byrd. How do you say “no mas” on Ukrainian?

Posted December 29, 2012 3:26 pm 


Tyrell Biggs didn’t have a great jab or great footwork.. He went nowhere.. Continuing when injured doesn’t make you millions but it can get you badly hurt and damage your future career … It’s important to come out of fights intact so you can make millions in future fights. If you suffer a serious enough injury you will not be able to do that.

Posted December 29, 2012 2:15 pm 


spedmond never stops talking about when jack johnson and ali were around and if they were still here they whip the klitchko russian behunds (.tears)well guess what speddy ?At one time Jim thorpe and bruce Jenner were the greastest athlethes alive but there not any more . the klitchkos rule the heavyweights. deal with it

Posted December 29, 2012 1:06 am 

It’s Me, Ernie

The unheralded Tyrell Biggs fought on for another eight rounds after breaking his clavicle in the second round against Jeff Sims. He used his great jab and footwork, and a lot of heart to do it. You could see the pain on his face whenever he took a shot, or even threw a jab with the other arm. Recently Nonito Donaire fought on with a severely broken hand and a ruptured radial artery. It was super human how the greatest continued on with a broken jaw against a powerful Ken Norton. There are countless examples of boxers showing a big heart, unfortunately Vitali didn’t follow suit against the feather-fisted Chris Byrd.

Posted December 28, 2012 10:31 pm 


Sred says….. “Marciano NEVER QUIT a distinction that a PRIME Vitali has that no other Champs do I can think of” … Sred, you’re an idiot with no knowledge of Boxing…because Ali quit… Cerdan quit… Lieja quit… Carlos Ortiz quit… Duran quit… Liston quit… Julio Cesar Chavez quit… Lamon Brewster quit… Jesus Chavez quit… All of them were world champions, and some were world champions several times.

They quit because they were receiving too much punishment, had an injury that didn’t allow them to continue, or in Duran’s case, got fed up because their opponent wouldn’t fight. Vitali quit because he suffered a shoulder injury in the 2nd round and it kept getting worse to the point he couldn’t move the shoulder. It was as good call because he fought until he was 41.. He also took several years off to heal nagging injuries to his legs.

Posted December 28, 2012 8:23 pm 


Haye needs to stop calling Vital name out and fight somenoe like Fury then Charr and then Vital for the title if he beats both of these guys.
Fury would beat Haye that’s why Haye is not calling Fury or Wilder out for a fight.

Posted December 28, 2012 1:02 pm 

PitBull Petrill

Speaking of fat boxing fans, how about Bunce? That man is the most ignorant, overweight, slovenly looking ape I have seen. What a pity.

Posted December 26, 2012 5:22 pm 

PitBull Petrill

I respect Vitali for making Diver wait, while he expresses little interest in taking the fight; let’s face it, Diver has had numerous opportunities to fight both Klit’s and has backed out man many times. Vitali should promise to fight Diver and then announce his retirement 2 weeks before the fight. That would be sweet revenge for the Valuev fight and for Diver pulling out of the Wlad fight last minute with a phantom injury.

Posted December 26, 2012 5:11 pm 

PitBull Petrill

Diver actions now can be described as parasitic and opportunistic because he expresses such an interest in fighting Vitali now at the convenient age of 41. He wanted no part of Vitali at any point prior to 1 year ago. If they were to fight Diver would run around the ring in retreat mode ( a la the Wlad fight) and pot shot his way to an unimpressive points victory that would be meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Posted December 26, 2012 5:05 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

I must of missed some of Vitali’s historical fights. Never being behind is impressive, especially with the long list of the ALL Time Greats and Hall of Famers he has been victorious against.

Posted December 26, 2012 11:00 am 


Tark, who cares about Vitais “never down” “never behind” Rocky Marciano NEVER lost and his KO percentage is above Vitalis I NEVER hear you call Rocky the Greatest HW ever or anything even close because those stats don’t tell the whole story and you KNOW It….FACT is Marcianos biggest wins were over fighters that were considered PAST IT, and Vitalis biggest wins were over fighters that never had it in the first damn place (Samuel Peter)… But lets get back the initial premise how you are you going to laud Vitali over Marciano using those criteria its illogical…I know you will say, “Well Marciano had to come from behind to win” or “he had to get off the canvas to WIN” but do you notice the operative word was TO WIN… Hence him having a record of 49-0 and still few consider him more than a Top 10 or so HW…We can also say that Marciano NEVER QUIT a distinction that a PRIME Vitali has that no other Champs do I can think of….

Posted December 26, 2012 8:50 am 


Bears, who cares about who served in the military in your family? My father is a veteran and what does that have to do with the price of gas at the pump? Your fundamentalist dogma has the usual RedNeck tinge to it that we often see laced throughout your posts…NO not everyone is on the same page as it pertains to poorly conceived Wars or the collateral damage (loss of human life) associated with such Geopolitical nonsense many people are gonna NOT support the war ie Vietnam and the War in Iraq and Ali was RESPECTED for having the conviction to NOT serve in that war and deal with the consequences, Many Americans did the same damn thing they were just not as influential as he was… What war did you serve in, whats up with your military record since you have mandated EVERYONE for service?? If I am correct the standing President and his deposed rival NEVER served… America is changing HILLBILLY!!

Posted December 26, 2012 8:37 am 

accent p

BEARS is wrong here.

Posted December 26, 2012 8:19 am 


If you disrespect and dishonor veterans. you disrespect and dishonor your country. Your a savage. Your practically aiding and abedding your countries enemy while your countrymen are in harms way. You have to support your troops. Nobody said anything about supporting a war

Posted December 26, 2012 7:10 am 


Bears…. I disagree with your premise—nothing personal, I just disagree… The Vietnam War wasn’t worth one American life. We had NO right to kill so many people or get so many Americans killed—and to what end??? God certainly didn’t bless our efforts, did he??? Ali was right about the Vietnam War, and the world understood that.

God DID bless our efforts in World War I and World War II—which were worthy wars on America’s part.. So were the Revolutionary War and other wars we fought—but certainly not the Vietnam or Iraq Wars. If more people refused to fight in unjust wars the world wouldn’t have so many of them. People make mistakes—so do nations.

It takes more courage NOT to fight when your country is clearly in the wrong.

Posted December 26, 2012 5:01 am 


Ali is a great hero—but it’s more about his courage in rejecting war and the draft… Ali was also a good boxer—but Ali was too hittable to have beaten Johnson, Louis, Holmes, Lewis, or the Klitschko Brothers at their best.. The David Haye who wiped out Dereck Chisora would have beaten Ali on greater skills, defense, and fire-power.. Vitali Klitschko is probably the best heavyweight ever because he’s never been behind on points—and he’s never been knocked down even though he fought through age 41 …. Lewis was KO’d twice by 2nd raters… Holmes was nearly KO’d by Snipes… Johnson was stopped by Williard… Ali was almost taken out by 185-pound Cooper and whipped by 197-pound tyro, Leon Spinks… Louis was taken out by 192-pound Schmeling… Wladimir was stopped by the inept Purrity… Vitali is the ONLY great Heavyweight Champion never knocked down—and the ONLY Heavyweight Champion who’s never been behind on points.

Posted December 26, 2012 3:40 am 


Haye is an overhyped f@ggot. All mouth and NO BALLS!

Posted December 26, 2012 1:46 am 

Crap Kicking

judge: Michael Pernick 118-108 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 117-109 | judge: Stanley Christodoulou 116-110

Posted December 26, 2012 1:44 am 


Bears, you were already crushed and you simply did not wakeup from the KO a la Manny Pacquiao… That post you wrote below was incoherent, ridiculous and devoid of factual commentary… Trying to run with Tarks silly Cooper stories are not going to take down Ali his Greatness is etched in stone and in the tradition of the follower Tark has lead you astray… Ali is remembered for Foreman, Liston, Norton, and Frazier not a whatever fight that he ACTUALLY won…. Wlad is the prime time TKO loss king, the ONLY HW Champ I can think of that was TKOed by 3 nobodies in the PRIME of his career, not when he was at the end of his career and his skills fading…. Give it up Ali has been OFFICIALLY annointed an American Hero by guys who don’t work for hourly wages like yourself of toil in Midwest factories or plants…. Consider finishing your education and progressing into the 21st century…

Posted December 25, 2012 11:51 pm 


Over 241 posts and 240 of them absolute rubbish…except Boxjob common sense article

‘Honestly, where do you guys come up with these crazy ideas . For a start wlad didn’t ‘kick the crap’ out of haye. Wlad’s face looked more marked after the fight. Of course haye lost due to how cautious he was. Wouldn’t you be cautious fighting someone who is the equivalent of 5 weight divisions heavier than you? If haye gets his tactics right the vitali fight could be very interesting. Unfortunately no one who is in the klits weight class is any good. And that includes your hopeless fighters like deontay and Seth.’

Posted December 25, 2012 11:50 pm 


It sounds like it pubehead. It sounds like u have 2 keep telling yourself at least. Like I said let’s find some pro analysts who agree with you. It shouldn’t be difficult to furnish one. I’ve furnished many. I can post a link to information all about ali’s racism but what’s most notable below is u refer to sam peter. And when your post gets slammed you cange the topic. You wanna act like cassius clay beating enry was something special. It was supp9ose to happen. The ONLY significant hing about that fight was clay getting floored. Then all the cheating that took place to which you had no resonse so you have no integrity. You didn’t prove anything or get at the heart of anything. You just keep repeating yourself. Yet nobody really agree’s who matters. Guess what? Despite loosing wlad is passing everyone in th record books fighting the best of the world. Not local contests of guys who wouldt be contenders in the heavyweight division today. See the public gets it. Th guys I alluded to get it. You must continue to repeat yourself because when you type into google u will find people will think your out of touch. As I said take your new “stuggle” to the jim romes, dan rafaels etc. See if you can discredit them. Lol. Put your pube power into it

Posted December 25, 2012 10:34 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

Vitali who?

Posted December 25, 2012 8:46 pm 


Red TKO6 bears

Posted December 25, 2012 7:45 pm 


Bears, you are YOUNGER than me how do you know whats going on??? The internet is available to all are you going to contend that US Presidents consort with a domestic terrorist and this has gone on for 30 plus years???? Do you think that a propane sniffing HICK like you from the bowels of Illinois knows more than the general population…. Ali is a HERO hillbilly and he is lauded and applauded EVERYWHERE he goes EVEN your beloved Kits call him their hero… You might as well join the party :)

Posted December 25, 2012 7:02 pm 


Bears, Ali defeated Cooper whereas Wlad was stopped 3 times by nobodies and as big as he is its a DISGRACE, getting put down 8 times in a 7 fight span… 2 TKO losses in his PRIME ALI NEVER let anyone rape him like that as a prime fighter and he went 15 rounds… Wlad could NOT handle 12 with Purrity nor 6 with Brewster or 2 with Sanders… SHAMEFUL!!

Posted December 25, 2012 6:59 pm 


Wlad fought a made that moved like he was made of cement in Wach he was NOT blasted and Sam Peter putting Wlad down 3 times was the FIRST time he showed real balls… Wach was a talentless fighter who NEVER beat anyone but scrubs he was BIG and SLOW and his KO percentage which you LOVE was in the 50% range he was EASY prey NO ONE is fooled because he was tall and immobile… Live and learn Klits started in 96 and could not become the man till AFTER 2005, Dude could not make it happen when Big name fighters were around and he won’t fight the only other HOF HW during this era his brother… HOFERS but they are suspect for the many reasons I break down as I crush your silliness

Posted December 25, 2012 6:55 pm 


WTF – THATS your reasoning.

Posted December 25, 2012 6:44 pm 


Nice Try Bears you called Vitali a Floyd Mayweather knockoff in not so many words and I caught you with your dingy underwear around your ankles like I always do. “Plus/Minus” dudes been smashing relics like Shannon Briggs and chasing Lennox Lewis ghost like a grave robber because he failed to book a BIG TIME win during his 16 years in boxing… You wish Vitali enjoyed the respect of 5 division Champion FMJ who is the biggest name in boxing bar NONE.

Posted December 25, 2012 6:43 pm 


Bears, SO what Dan Rafael is NOT Jesus Christ the US public has shown YOU what they think of the Klits… They DON’T buy their fights and 15 years after starting they are not in the public eye here… Both men are HOFERS and Wlad has real talent but this GOAT talk and exaggeration have to go… You STILL did not refute the notion that they did NOT fight in the 90’s especially when I bashed your skull in with the fact that Wlad for THIRTY TWO TIMES during the span…. Face it dudes could not make it happen when Bowe, Lewis, Tyson and Holy were rocking and rolling… The ascendency coincided with these mens retirement or aging out of the game… Remember Wlad was STILL getting drilled by Peter in 2005…. LEARN Chump!!

Posted December 25, 2012 6:39 pm 


Right bears – what you see as credibility I see as a conflict. He has a career interest to esteem wlad to fools.

Posted December 25, 2012 6:35 pm 


It was easier than going into “plus minus ratio” and typeing that out to just say what I said followed by and many other accolades that make a laundry list. You know this laundry list well pubehead how many times have I told you? Remember the jaw? The no 8 second count, kd, or ko, never loosing a fight……etc etc you know it well you hateful balck man. It eats you up inside uncle remus. Lol. Thus your here talkin your klitschko hate. What compels you? The power of alah? Hahahaahahahah

Posted December 25, 2012 6:35 pm 


Excerpt from ESPN………………..PHILADELPHIA — Boxing great Muhammad Ali was honored Thursday with the Liberty Medal for his longtime role outside the ring as a fighter for humanitarian causes, civil rights and religious freedom.

Hundreds of people gathered on the lawn of the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia to watch the three-time heavyweight title holder receive an honor that his wife, Lonnie Ali, called “overwhelming.”

Posted December 25, 2012 6:29 pm 


Bears, please you are NOT even a TRUE boxing fan the only fights you watch are in the DEAD HW division, AGAIN you want to point to Mayweather statistical dominance YET in order to make Vitali seem like a BETTER fighter you call him the “HW Floyd Mayweather” reality is that you mentioned it because Floyd Mayweather is the GOLD STANDARD for skills over hte past 15 years, he did NOT take 8 or 10 years to become a Champion nor did it take him 1000 years to hit the P4P list he was up there since his demolition of Diego Corrales at the age of 22 years old or so….As usual you are BACKTRACKING on your statements if you think Floyd is NOT the man then why would you liken Vitali who you worship like a nutcase in a cult to him…. AGAIN your limited brain does NOT see the myriad angles mine does…. YOU rode Floyds nuts and I won’t forget that next time you are trying to wade into a convo regarding the MOST important divisions in boxing..

Posted December 25, 2012 6:26 pm 


Bears – you make the classic foolish mistake of handing your belief system over to others, I’d never even heard of that fat guy in the klits movie. He just looks like a geek boxing fan. probably sucked at sports at school so wrote about other people who dont suck

Posted December 25, 2012 6:18 pm 


Of course jim rome, larry merchant, dan rafael, freddy roach, myself, and steward have all been whell aware of the entirety of wlads career. Nobody speaks ill of wlad. As I say below most these guys think either klitschko would smoke anyone else. As I said rome just said he thinks wlad would ko ali. So whate does a pubehead think? Its irrelevant. What do these guys think? They get paid and followed to tell you what they think. So obviously people care what they think. Its the pubeheads of the world that have incessantly repeat the opposite to themselves. Who make feeble attempts at creating and contrivng criteria. Its you pubeheads who must tell the pro analysts they are wrong. Carry your pubehead agenda to the. Highest heights. Take it to these guys. Email them or something and see what they tell you. I can assure u, u will be laughed and scoffed at

Posted December 25, 2012 6:05 pm 


The mayweather remark was in relation to statistical domination. I attributed no value judgement to it. To m to not get a standing 8, a knock down, or knockout suffered by your persons at heavyweight is the most impresive as heavyweight is the hardest hitting division. 90s tyson and holy got their asses wooped by a lot of cats. I don’t attribute much worship to them like you. You guys cannot offer up one person who comes close to your views. Nameless-saying these mythical people exist is not sufficient. My views are pretty ell know so when you start your classic lieing machine people know better. Pubehead always has to fabricate and reword the thoughts of others. I don’t know if his dyslexia causes him problems in understanding or if its intentional. I’m sure its a bit of both. There is no quantifying when someone should have been champ by age or number of fights anymore than we can quantify a standard age at which people “get old”. This premise is fallacious. It is more creating klitschko criteria through this folly of quantifying age or number of fights at which u should be champ and by what age. Funny pubeheads

Posted December 25, 2012 5:52 pm 


Below we see a CLASSIC illustration of Bears flip flopping and lack of adherence to stances and principles…He often calls FMJ “a B@#*TH” and he was trying to help Mannys image by discussing Floyd when Manny was the guy who got KOed… But suddenly when he wants to PUFF UP Vitali he calls him “The Floyd Mayweather of HW boxing”…!!!!! So what is it Bears if Floyd GREAT or NOT??? You basically say that Vitali would do well to emulate him with your stance EXCEPT Floyd is a virtuoso who does about 50 things that Big Vitali cannot in the ring his skills are on another planet..You make Vitali 147 pound and put him in the ring with Floyd Mayweather he would NOT last 3 rounds THATS why Floyd is considered the P4P King and a jab, jab right hand HW would NEVER have the tools at the equivalent weight to do 6 minutes with FMJ even if Jesus, Allah, Ghandi, Moses, Buddha and Satan were in his corner… HOLLA!!

Posted December 25, 2012 5:15 pm 


Bears, Vitali does NOT compare to Floyd Mayweather who is the P4P KING of boxing he has faced comprably sized boxers his entire career and had to make weight in ALL divisions… He has defeated HOFers and done it in dominant fashion… He just came off beating Cotto who was 31 and younger than him in Cottos new division… Cotto is a 3 weight Champion who has only lost to Champions and ATG’s….Mayweather did not say, “oh my god he broke my face or damn my arm hurts lets try this another day” he got in there and won the fight… Vitali NEVER beat a HOF level fighter in his life and he has feasted on SMALLER (Grossly at times) pedestrian fighters topping out with Sam Peter as his best win… He lives off surviving 6 rounds with Lewis while his face leaked like FAT girl with hemphelia on her period…Where is the WIN over a REAL Champion?? Floyd was 22 beating Genaro Hernandez a WELL respected Champion in the sport..

Posted December 25, 2012 5:07 pm 


Bears, all those stats and the STIFFS that Wlad and Vitali knocked out don’t even begin to touch the resume that Lennox Lewis compiled… Wach, Mormeck and Thompson are TRASH compared to the fighters Lewis stopped and defeated INCLUDING Vitali Klitschko in the PRIME of his life… If numbers alone told the story then the guy with the most wins and fewest losses would be the MAN but boxing wants to know WHO you beat… Names like Holyfield, Tyson and Vitali carry FAR more weight than the guys on Wlads or Vitalis resumes… You will learn this eventually neophyte, Canelo has over 40 wins at the age of 22 years old but NO ONE compares him to FMJ who is a 5 division Champ who beat multiple Champions and HOFERS in his career… Only a boxing 1st grader like you would try to solely hide behind stats like this is basketball or Tennis.

Posted December 25, 2012 5:02 pm 


Bears, Wlad Klits started boxing in 1996, he had 32 fights by 1999… So YES he was indeed a fighter during the 90’s I know that you WISH you could start his career after he got knocked out 3x but thats NOT how the sport works…. Reality is that Wlad and Vitali both had significant fights during that span UNLESS 32 fights are just a warmup in boxing GTFOH the Klits could not make that splash over 8 Damn years of pro fighting and thats just a fact kid… NOW tell me that Wlad did NOT fight 32 times between 1996 and 1999?? AGAIN FACTS!!! You are my intellectual inferior so its cruel to take candy from a baby, but dammit its fun :)

Posted December 25, 2012 4:55 pm 


bears – your worship of fellow fat boxing fans like rafeal is understandable – they look like you. But really they dont have much authority and often are not being objective. boxing fans seem to regard the ring as authority – go read what they said about wlad vs ATGs

Posted December 25, 2012 4:44 pm 


Bears – addressing yourself under another username again

Posted December 25, 2012 4:41 pm 


Spubehead- funny name! Nameless-coll show me theprofessional analyhsts who agree with redmond (spubehead). I can tell u they are not guys like lou duva, dan rafael, freddy roach, or jim rome. but if u or pubehead know of any please submit them to the thread for examination.

Posted December 25, 2012 4:37 pm 


Hi bears.

Posted December 25, 2012 4:10 pm 


Bears most people agree with Redmond unless they are rabid k2 fans or people who break boxing down into stats against a lame backdrop of competition

Posted December 25, 2012 3:36 pm 


Bears after the word because, replace skilled and dominant with ABOUT THE SAME SIZE

Posted December 25, 2012 3:34 pm 


You juxtapose boxers from 50 years ago like the 60s and 70s fighters to the klitschko era and some get smoked many don’t even make it to heavyweight limit and the big brutes of that era with reach are small here. There was no masterful boxer of the 60s and 70s who didn’t take much punishment because they were so skilled and dominant. Your going to have a hard time convincing people atheletics of 50 years ago can hang with atheletics today in any sport. For many REAL reasons. Discussing the great wlad klitschko. Olympic champ at 20 in 1996. Implying this kid wlad should’ve dominated boxing at 20 is ignorant. Implying he was a 90s fighter is ignorant. Wladimir klitschko was 14 years old in 1990 LOL!!!!! Poignant facts remain. Wlad won the title at 24 while lennox won at 27. Wladimir has knocked out 10 more REAL heavyweights than lennox even has just pro wins. Wladimir is slaying REAL records but doing it on a REAL GLOBAL SAMPLE OF FIGHTERS.. vitaly klitschko is the floyd mayweather of heavyweight boxing. The most statistically dominant heavy of all time with HUGE accolades to follow that in fact a laundry list. At the end of the day you dnt find anyone who believes cassius clay could beat a klitschko brother. Accept for maybe clays coach who said hayewould defeat wlad by mimicking cassius clay. How far did that get? Lol. Hey pube heads, does anyone even agree with you in the professional realm of boxing or sports?

Posted December 25, 2012 3:22 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

Tard, recheck the history books to see EXACTLY how many times Ali won the title.

Posted December 25, 2012 3:02 pm 


SREDMOND: Facts!…..BEARS: Emotionalism!…

Posted December 25, 2012 2:31 pm 


redmond and nameless hopefully die in a fire soon.

Posted December 25, 2012 11:43 am 


Bears there is NO relationship between Peyton Manning having a spinal injury and Vitali having issues during a fight with his arm.. Face it Vitali was a QUITTER that night and he was derided for it till he stood in there and let Lewis keep turning that eye to burger… Klits choose not to go 9 more mins with a little man, this is NOT akin to an NFL QB who is risking paralysis… Total different animal, and for the record Manning won the big one whereas Klits choked when his time came against Lewis

Posted December 25, 2012 9:51 am 


Bears the ONLY MASSIVE fighters that have shown skill and accomplishment are the Klits and Lennox Lewis…. This does NOT change the landscape of boxing forever the rest of these guys look terrible for the most part… Wach, Helenius, Wilder and the rest of these overgrown stiff fighters are not fooling ANYONE and they have not accomplished a DAMN thing…. Athletes are bigger and faster in most other sports but its not translating the same in HW boxing… Watching Robotic, one dimensional, BIG guys throw a few SLOW shots per round does NOT look like progress to me…. People want to substitute MASS for real skills and action….Chisora who is not some sort of virtuoso made Big Helenius look like trash, even Sherman Williams made him look like garbage and he is a journeyman…Price is COMPLETELY untested as a Pro so who are we fooling… I have told you that the era cannot be hidden BEHIND the Klits

Posted December 25, 2012 9:48 am 


Bears, Ali is a HERO he is a friend to Presidents, Idol to the Klits and the MOST famous boxer to ever live..MOST lists have him no lower than #2 at HW and that has persisted for 30 years… In the GREAT tradition of the follower you have hitched your wagon to Tarks balls and joined his anti-Ali crusade, no matter Alis GREATNESS and Cultural influence is etched in stone… You really think history will be discussing the Great matchup between Vitali and Charr? or Solis, OLD Briggs or Samuel Peter?? Curtains about to close on Klits and the story will be he got his eye punched out by Lennox Lewis… THE END Merry Xmas Clown!!! :)

Posted December 25, 2012 9:42 am 


Bears, you can make ALL the excuses that you want but the Klits had YEARS to make a splash during the 90’s and they could not get the job done..Vitali QUIT face it there will ALWAYS be an excuse when it comes to a Klit with you, you list includes “he was cut” “he was too young” “he gassed” “he was winning BEFORE he lost” “he did not have Steward” “he was poisoned” “does not matter his brother avenged him” and the list goes ON and ON…. I am stating the FACTS, Wlad and Vitali started boxing in the 90’s so your attempt to divorce them from the ERA is WEAK, and even the early 2000’s were NOT their time to shine… Lewis stopped Vitali in 2003 and Lamon Brewster stopped Wlad for the SECOND time in 5 fights in 2004…..So from 96 to 2004 why were the Klits NOT able to dominate or become premier HW’s???? It did NOT even take a Lewis, Holy or Bowe for Wlad to get stopped, Sanders and Brewster were plenty LOL!!! FACTS!!!!

Posted December 25, 2012 9:38 am 


bears – its xmas day ffs

Posted December 25, 2012 8:19 am 


Tark, Tomas Adamek is NOT a force at HW and everyone knows it he is NOT even on par with Haye who has shown he can take guys out at the weight… Adamek was a very good Cruiserweight but he is struggling at HW… Needing gifts against other small men like Cunningham and a debatable win against Chambers…. Good on Vitali for beating him but you want to DING Ali for facing the fighters of his day while that were truly classified as HW’s and held the crown ie Frazier, Liston and Foreman but you want to sing Vitalis praises for beating a puffed up Cruiser who never got a sliver of the title and was GROSSLY undersized even according to the late Emmanuel Steward who said Adamek would “need a stool” to touch Vitalis chin…You don’t hear much chatter about that win, everyone knew going in Adamek had heart but lacked the tools or power at HW to trouble Vitali…. Beating Mcbride AND that BUM Arreola ain’t cutting it…

Posted December 25, 2012 7:16 am 


Bears, you LIKE to seperate the Klits from the 90’s but the reality is they were around then BUT because of the landscape they could NOT dominate nor gain a foothold… Even at the tail end during the early 2000’s they were struggling quitting against Byrd, TKO to Lewis, Wlad did not get stable till AFTER Sam Peter what guy needs 48 fights to establish himself??? Thats part of the Klits issue, the inherited the era they did NOT takeover from Lewis and company… So in your diatribes try to remember they started as pros in 96 or so… You guys want Pulev and Co to compete with them with 20 or less bouts but THEY (Klits) needed what 40 plus bouts to get on track??? Manny Steward to stop getting knocked out against B and C level fighters??? Hasim Rahman and others did not need Manny Steward to avoid stoppages to Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster. The Klits could not really hang when Lewis, Holy, and Co were stil around…. FACT

Posted December 25, 2012 7:08 am 


Blah Blah Blah, Holmes gets almost 0 credit for beating the shell of Ali after a 2 year hiatus pushing 39 he was a washed up fighter… Ali had already booked MANY wins against all time great fighters… Specifying physical dimensions is a joke the HUGE Klits NEVER beat a great fighter of ANY size….They tower over their normally inept opponents… I know you will say Tony Thompson and Wach are GREAT fighters but the truth is they are NOT even close, both men put together cannot produce a win over a Top HW, Tony Thompson was 40 years old and we just saw Wlad beat on a 5″11 Cruiser (Mormeck) who was completely over the hill… Ali fought it out with Liston, Frazier, Holmes, Norton, Shavers and all the rest…. Even as an OLD man he did not let a scrub like Spinks stop him during a 15 round bout, whereas Wlad could not even go 12 with Sanders, Brewster and Purrity in his prime… LOL!!!

Posted December 25, 2012 6:56 am 


Ali fought only one good boxer who could punch, and was 6’2″X210 plus or bigger. That was Larrry Holmes.. As for beating Leon Spinks? The only good fighter little 197-pound Spinks ever beat was Ali—when Leon had only 6 wins. Spinks was in over his head too soon because of his victory over Ali. He got slaughtered by guys like Coatzee and Holmes.. Foreman ate jabs and any good boxer would likely beat him, unless he got in a lucky shot.. Little feather punching Jimmy Young, with only 20 wins and 5 defeats, beat Foreman.. Frazier was a short 205 pound left hooker. He was wide open for any big, tall, powerful puncher. Joe fought one and got crushed twice. Glass chinned Norton was KO’d by 188-pound Jose Luis Garcia who had only 12 wins … The truth is that there is more talent today. Boxing is more a a global sport and the world population has exploded.. Bums like Jean Pierre Coopman and Alfredo Evangelista don’t get title shots today.

Posted December 25, 2012 2:56 am 


spedmond when they knocked down the walls you should have sealed it back up and you still be happy about who is the heavyweight champ

Posted December 25, 2012 2:02 am 


it kills spedmond that not 1 but 2 white men are the heavy weight champs his problem with them is there brothers but not his kinda of brothers. So all he has to go on is big up poor old men who are just happy to be breathing>

Posted December 25, 2012 2:00 am 


Ali was DONE as a top fighter and history reflects that truth and keeps the loss in perspective… He lost on points during a 15 rounder and came back and won on points as is custom with fighters he fought on past his best… AGAIN Ali was NO young HW getting stopped by a BUM like Purrity nor was he quitting in the ring during his prime against a guy he was twice the size of like Vitali did vs Byrd….Ali is transcendent he is the Klits hero as they have stated, they are NOT his…..30 years later and Ali is still discussed and revered on these threads… Meanwhile 15 years into their careers and the Klits have not mustered up a SINGLE defining victory…. SMH

Posted December 24, 2012 8:25 pm 


Ali didn’t really win the title 3 times—to be truthful… Ali was stripped of the title for fighting the unranked Stinks—and Holmes took over as world champion when he beat Norton. Beating Spinks was no feather in Ali’s cap … Ali was the only top heavyweight Stinks ever beat… Holmes and Coatzee blew Stinks away like he was a 3rd rate lightweight.

Posted December 24, 2012 7:57 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

When Ali lost to Spinks, I remember the guys from the neighborhood mostly saying beforehand that Ali was going to let Leon have the first match since it would call for more revenue on a rematch and Ali could be the first heavyweight to win the title three times. They were up on their knowledge back in those days…

Posted December 24, 2012 7:09 pm 

Chicago Bulls

REDMOND enjoys fried chicken and watermelon and Olde English 800 to wash it all down. Ahhhhhhhhh.

Posted December 24, 2012 4:35 pm 


Charr was undefeated and untied in 21 fights when he faced a 41-year-old Vitali… Leon Stinks was 6-0-1 when he whipped a 36-year-old Ali.

You have to remember that David Haye pulled out of 3 fights with the K-Bros and eventually went after the 7’X330lb Nicolay Valuev to get a World Title, a little more experience at heavyweight, and some negotiating parity… Haye is a smart businessman, but waiting for David to show up for an actual fight date can be like waiting for Godot… Vitali finally went with Charr and who can blame him? Now he’s doing the Obama thing and embarking on a political career. I don’t think he wants to divide his attention and be a part time politician—after seeing what happened to Pacquiao.. Ouch!

Posted December 24, 2012 4:17 pm 


Vitali beat Heavyweight Champ Sam Peter 30-1… VK whipped Two-Division World Champion Tomasz Adamek, 6’2″ X 216lb and 44-1… Adamek couldn’t even win one minute of any round before 40-year-old Vitali stopped him… Let’s face it, Adamek is bigger and taller than 5′ 11″ X 205 Joe Frazier and 6′ X 197 Leon Stinks—and TA’s rounghly the same size as Ken Norton, who weighed 205 for his 2nd fight with Ali… So much for being a cruiserweight because the first 3 guys who whipped Ali’s ass could have made the cruiserweight limit easier than Haye could… Ali had plenty of exciting fights—because he was getting smashed in the head by small, crude swingers. Corrie bombing Wlad out wasn’t boring. Wladimir got punched a lot before he got with Emanuel Steward for 10 years and finally learned how to box.. If Tunney, Holmes, and Lewis became great boxers, so did Wladimir Klitschko … VK is a natural talent—something WK never was.

Posted December 24, 2012 4:00 pm 


Klit fans have their panties in a twist over this. :D Tells me a lot.

Posted December 24, 2012 3:15 pm 

Hero Toe Zero

retire haye, you f@ggot.

Posted December 24, 2012 1:41 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

SREDMOND, Quit screwing up everything with facts please, it’s more fun to live in Tard’s fantasy world…

Posted December 24, 2012 12:46 pm 


Haye tried when he smashed Chisora to bits and lets get real you guys are terrified that Haye might get in there and catch Vitali on the chin… God forbid the Klits get in the ring with a guy who has the slimmest shot at causing some jeopardy… MORE than one Klit fan has articulated that they ONLY want Vitali taking safe fights against inept opponents at this stage (Charr) so he might as well retire if the prospect of facing a former Cruiserweight with some speed and power is too much… Bears and Tark have both stated this fight not be favorable to Vitali so all this “he needs to prove himself BS is just smoke and mirrors to shroud fear in a more palpable blanket.

Posted December 24, 2012 11:28 am 


“klit fought Byrd twice why not fight Haye.” — Because unlike Byrd, the toe fairy is a p u$$y who won’t even try. he wants a pay day just to run and flop so he go retire again. how many times do these idiots needs to see haye schooled by wlad before they accept that haye is garbage?

Posted December 24, 2012 9:06 am 


“I suspect Haye did have a hurt toe first Wlad fight. Wlad was scared the entire fight.” — I suspect you are a moron. Who ran and flopped around the entire fight because he didn’t have the balls to fight?

Posted December 24, 2012 9:02 am 


Tark you keep trying to sell us Ali/Evangilista as a marker of a boring fight for Ali but alas this was NOT billed as a Superfight the way that Haye/Klits was… Ali has his MANY defining bouts and thats something that cannot be taken away whereas the Klits have NO defining victories… We just saw Marquez define his career with a crushing KO of Manny Pacquiao whereas the Klits just don’t have that fight on their dockets, Vitali is likely NEVER going to have one and Wlad has a slim shot but there is no one out there with a really big name that is why you are desperate and hoping Pulev can create enough buzz… NO ONE even talks about Evangelista for Ali EXCEPT a WEIRD sort like yourself who chooses to gloss over the many all action fights on Alis docket… He enthralled and entertained thats why he is a legend, whereas the Big Klits WIN but do so in often dull fashion against guys that NO ONE outside the hardcore even know

Posted December 24, 2012 6:55 am 


The way Tark attempts to speak for what myself and others saw is really weird… When Vitali got punched in the eye the HBO staff harkened to the replay which showed Klits getting him with a right hand as he pulled back… But Tark has decided to speak for Moret as if they are brothers or he (Tark) was the 4th man in the ring…Of course you want Lewis DQ’ed he made sure Vitalis resume was gonna be filled with wins over fighters that most forgot the moment the bout ended…Not a SINGLE one of his conquests will be discussed as a TRULY dangerous HW at the time Vitali fought them… We already see Klits receding from the landscape as Wlad’s hold on the division becomes more obvious… Klits might as well retire after facing Charr and accept that he is the king of killing off sparring partner type boxers who cannot cut it against a SHW….Best Klits ever did is Samuel Peter and he is NOT a maker of Greatness…

Posted December 24, 2012 6:49 am 


Haye is NO different that a million guys in boxing (HW aside) who call out the guys at the top who offer the biggerst purses… Reality is that the Klits sought him as vigorously as he is seeking Vitali now… The bar for fighting a Klit is LOW, we saw Wlad have about 3 meaninless and VERY weak defenses in a row, Mormeck, Thompson and Wach all guys that had done nothing to show they could compete at that level… Haye is the last guy outside of a Klit to hold a major belt and unlike a hopeless retread like Thompson Wlad did not knock him out or even put him down… We all know he (David) fought scared but then again so did the bigger Klits who did not ratchet up the pressure till the 12th round..But if Vitali who QUIT outright against a TINY HW who ended his career at LHW can get a shot, why not Haye who was outgunned against Wlad yet still avoided the KO…??? FACT is that Klit fans want us to judge Vitali “Great” for beating C+ fighters only.

Posted December 24, 2012 6:42 am 


Tark, your protest is lame and pathetic Lewis/Klits and about 1 million other bouts that were cut short did NOT go to the cards and consequently the LOSER LOST…. Vitalis situation was not close to special it has been a familiar refrain everytime one of the Klits loses and if they are ahead and LOSE again in the future the same will be said as if leading indemnifies you against and “L” on your record… Marquez was down 2 rounds and coming off a round 5 where he was really in trouble and had hit the deck…. All that was erased with one second to go when he landed that shot… NO ONE cares about Pacs prior lead EXCEPT fans looking for the ray of hope in his performance and attempting to sell a “lucky punch” scenario when the truth is there is NO time off during a boxing match and every second can result in your lead turning into a loss…. I feel bad for you and I have NO clue how you sleep with that LOSS parked on Vitalis weak resume…

Posted December 24, 2012 6:36 am 


klit fought Byrd twice why not fight Haye. Haye dismantled Chis not neither Klit wants him. I suspect Haye did have a hurt toe first Wlad fight. Wlad was scared the entire fight.

Posted December 24, 2012 5:04 am 


Haye needs to look a little deeper… He could salt away millions by fighting Price, Pulev, or Fury.. Boxing IS a business first.. Vitali will no doubt retire—and if Haye makes good on his threat to retire unless he gets a Vitali fight, he’s stupid..

He will probably NOT get a Wladimir fight right away either—given their last fight he’ll need another brilliant fight to wipe away the stench of that showing—which I didn’t think was as bad as everyone said. Haye showed slick defensive skills and landed big shots. Both guys faces were marked up, so it was no Ali-Evangelista where no big shots landed.

With his speed, power, and peaking skills Haye could make 10’s of millions fighting these other top heavies and earn a rematch with Wladimir.

Posted December 24, 2012 3:10 am 


One thing I admire about Roy Jones Jr. is he admitted he lost the 1st Antonio Tarver fight, even though the official result has RJJ winning.

Roy knew the official result was dead wrong, and gave Tarver a rematch—where he prompty got KO’d in 2 rounds by a pissed off Tarver as he drove straight into AT’s wheelhouse. I had to laugh when AT asked, “Are you going to have any excuses tonight Roy?” After the fight Roy said, “I have no excuses. Antonio knocked me out.”

Roy Jones has a lot more integrity than Lennox Lewis. When he loses he admits it. When he says he’s going to give a man a rematch he’s good to his word.

Posted December 24, 2012 2:32 am 

It’s Me, Ernie

Haye is going after the money(Klit). For those who don’t understand the sweet science is a bidness first needs to look a little deeper. Also clicking on the link that Nameless posted below may be of some help.

Posted December 24, 2012 1:43 am 

It’s Me, Ernie

Yes many years ago the great Lennox Lewis officially stopped Vitali Klitschko. Some just can’t move on with their pitiful lives.

Posted December 24, 2012 1:37 am 


No Sredmond…. He won in reality—just not officially … Which is often the case in Boxing.

Posted December 24, 2012 1:28 am 


he did not win in reality you fantasist

Posted December 24, 2012 1:07 am 


Even YOU know what would have happened if Lewis-Vitali had gone to the scorecards … as it should have… Vitali would have won officially … and not just in reality.

Posted December 24, 2012 12:59 am 


WRONG AGAIN MEATHEAD…. EVERYONE on he HBO crew saw Lewis foul Vitali and saw Guerrero foul Berto a hundred times.. The HBO crew said “Shades of Lennox Lewis” while Guerrero was holding and hitting Berto with impunity.. It was basically a joke because Moret wasn’t calling the fouls.. I believe both Lewis and Guerrero KNEW Moret WASN’T going to call fouls. That gave them a huge advantage to foul at will.

Lou Moret—who refereed both fights—saw the fouling as well.. Otherwise he wouldn’t have issued so many warnings.. A referee is supposed to call fouls for flagrant violations of the rules and Moret DIDN’T… He is also supposed to note when blood comes spurting forth whether the blood gush was caused by a legal punch, a headbutt, or a foul blow… Sometimes referees get this wrong accidentally — sometimes on purpose.

Posted December 24, 2012 12:53 am 


Tark, I know you cannot see the difference but let me spell it out Bradley and Pac was a BAD decision, Chisora vs Helenius was a BAD decision, and Adamek/Cunningham was a BAD decision… The WHOLE world saw those massive cuts Lewis opened with his right hand and that fight was mercifully stopped due to the EXPERT work Lewis did punching Vitali in the face…. The judges played NO role in Lewis/Klits and the Champ kept his titles due to superior punching power and toughness…. Sorry kiddo you cannot have a robbery when the judges were not even part of the outcome…. Such a BITTER Man!! Lennox got him Tarkster and 10 years later you are STILL pleading your case trying to get some legacy points for quality deficient Vitali….. SMH

Posted December 24, 2012 12:33 am 


NOW CRAZY Tark, has written a two part mini series where Pulev fights Wlad twice, when the more likely reality is that Klits stops this guy straight away he is not a very skilled fighter even though he has heavy hands… Sorry Tark, did I just do a rewrite of your multi-fight movie???? PS Lewis beat Klits in 6 rounds….. TKO, you can search ther internet and you won’t find a writeup about Vitali winning the fight… NOW we gotta attack Lou Moret because Vitali took too many right hands?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa!

Posted December 24, 2012 12:28 am 


Tark, where was all this when the Kbros were acting like there was NOTHING but David Haye as evidenced by Wlad lubing himself and letting Haye slide in for 50% of the pie?? What about when Vitali was chasing him AFTER he had lost to Wlad… Haye puts the monster mash on a guy that Vitali could not even buzz and suddenly David Haye is being treated like he is radioactive??? Vitali should just retire and end his career which is not really gonna get much beyond LOSING to Lennox Lewis…He has receded from prominence and his “never down, never behind” battle cry is not gonna suffice when the historical record shows him facing a SLEW of weak foes and losing to the BEST guy he ever fought….. Bye Bye Vitali!

Posted December 24, 2012 12:25 am 


Kubrat Pulev could become the next Heavyweight Champion… Pulev may beat Wladimir even if he has to fight him twice. Their fight will be close and tough and call for a rematch. I don’t know if Pulev can beat Haye, but Haye is fighting selectively. Haye won’t fight Price, Pulev, Fury, or the toughest heavyweight contenders in the world.. DH has massive talent that will go to waste because it’s Vitali or the highway.

Haye is putting himself on a pedestal where nobody but Vitali is good enough for him to fight. That would be like Larry Holmes saying, “I want Muhammad Ali or nobody.” Holmes did what he had to do to become heavyweight champion when Ali refused to fight him … Haye needs to grow up and realize there’s more to the heavyweight division than than the K Bros.

Posted December 24, 2012 12:03 am 

all he wants is money

let him fight other fighters for less pay or he can retire. do not give him a second match.

Posted December 23, 2012 11:54 pm 


Basically that post is just drivel unworthy of refuting as it has been done 1000 times before

Posted December 23, 2012 11:31 pm 


LOL – not a mensa member

Posted December 23, 2012 11:30 pm 


Vitali Klitschko beat Lennox Lewis—because he was winning when the fight was stopped…. The fight was fixed by Lou Moret, who let Lewis get away with flagrant fouling the whole HBO crew saw—but Lou Moret never called.. It’s not the 1st time Lewis fouled his ass off and had the benefit of a corrupt referee.. This fight rightfully should have gone to the scorecards because the damage that prompted the stoppage was caused by flagrant holding and hitting with the palm of the glove, and illegal use of the head..

Lewis no more beat Vitali Klitschko than Tim Bradley beat Manny Pacquiao, Robert Helenius beat Dereck Chisora, or Adamek beat Cunningham yesterday.

Posted December 23, 2012 11:27 pm 


Guys cannot keep harping on Haye being soft against Wlad fact is that Vitali was SOFT against Chris Byrd and was called Quitschko till he fought Lewis and showed some stones during his loss…Haye was VERY defensive against the much bigger Wlad Klits whereas Vitali quit against the relatively tiny and power deficient Chris Byrd… Haye vs Vitali is the biggest fight that could be made at the weight.. If Vitali wants to retire, then fine move on but if he is going to fight again David Haye is the logical choice..

Posted December 23, 2012 11:21 pm 


that being the majority accurate view.

Posted December 23, 2012 11:00 pm 


Remond-see tarks post and my post for an accurate understanding of the vitaly klitschko vs lennox lewis bout. Besides I think you know our views quite well. As we know your minority view. It is what it is.

Posted December 23, 2012 10:52 pm 


Contractual rape agreed already

Posted December 23, 2012 10:50 pm 


and boxing as a credible sport dies a little more.

Posted December 23, 2012 10:39 pm 

Con Artist

Klits don’t need Haye. Let him enjoy running his mouth and the Klits will enjoy their belts.

Posted December 23, 2012 10:35 pm 


Former Undisputed CW champ – neither klit has been undisputed

Posted December 23, 2012 10:30 pm 


He was undisputed at CW. Between haye and k2 – only one has ever had an undisputed tag.

Posted December 23, 2012 10:29 pm 


why doesn’t that big mouth coward go into wrestling? it suits him better because he’s no prize fighter

Posted December 23, 2012 10:27 pm 


If you look above you can see the standard of comp vittles likes – Charr in what looks like a sports hall fighting “Airich” – WHO????

Posted December 23, 2012 10:06 pm 


Cowards. Call haye out and then play “hard to get”. The fools are the one that watch Klit jab a cherry picked bum like Charr.

Posted December 23, 2012 10:03 pm 

El Coyote

No one cares about Haye. Brittards and a few others that cling to this idea that he’s some savior but no one with sense. Everyone with sense already saw what a chump he was on July 2, 2011. No one will pay to watch him mail it in just so he can get paid. Fk him. Deny him the pay day.

Posted December 23, 2012 9:59 pm 


Thats just a rationalization for fear. Haye wins. Vit loses. Get it on!

Posted December 23, 2012 9:52 pm 


So Vit calls Haye out numerous times – then retires. Or he just shamlessly fights bums as per most of his CV

Posted December 23, 2012 9:50 pm 


Its a S HIT fight. The only reason you want to see it is because someone who WAS from the same little place you’re from (Before he wised up and moved out of that s hithole) would be involved. But once the bell rang Vitali would just win every round in a boring fight against a guy who doesn’t want to be there. Bad fight, no need for it. Haye is just trying to stay relevant when he isn’t.

Posted December 23, 2012 9:49 pm 


Haye was Undisputed Cruiser Champ – Wlad fought a cruiser recently of a mere 5 10 – he held him 16 times in one round, he continually pushes people down and has no inside game – In the no balls dept – Wlad takes this. Chisora knows that

Posted December 23, 2012 9:49 pm 


Haye dreamed that he could “take” Vitali once. That’s as close as he will ever get. The only thing Haye and his fans will ever win at is talking the most s hit. They spout their s hit hard, heavy and non stop.

Posted December 23, 2012 9:47 pm 


Its a good fight because there are two schools of thought on who wins and the casual – like me – also gives a toss about this one.

Posted December 23, 2012 9:47 pm 


A good fight? How exactly is Haye against a Klit a good fight when Haye has NO BALLS when he has to actually shut his fat mouth and fight one? You are a fool.

Posted December 23, 2012 9:45 pm 


Bears, Lewis did NOT look good against Vitali. but on a day when he was the OLDEST, and HEAVIEST he would ever be as a professional boxer, on a day when Lampley or one of the other announcers called him “flagrantly underconditioned” he still had enough in the tank to dispatch a PRIME Vitali Klitschko and park stitch after stitch in his face… Neither Lewis nor Klits had to look good, they needed to WIN and one guy did and the other guy sure as hell didn’t (Klits)

Posted December 23, 2012 9:36 pm 


Vitali knows Haye takes this. Hence it wont happen. Another good fight that never happened.

Posted December 23, 2012 9:34 pm 

Ban corrupt judges

I was ringside for the Haye Wlad fight and have to say it stunk the place out. I felt conned by the whole event. The point I would make is that BOTH Haye and Wlad fought very defensive fights. Haye was directly in front of Wlad for much of the fight, but Wlad was totally unwilling to let the the right go and take any risk of get counter punched. Neither fighter was covered in glory. Haye looked untouched after 12 rounds with a guy most still say was dominant – a guy that was going to jab Haye’s head off then knock him cold by middle roundsaccording to most respected pre-fight analysis.

Both guys were waiting for a mistake and winning at minimal risk.

While many observers think that Vitali would beat Haye easily, truth is that if Vitali believed that, he would have fought him by now. I think Vitali knows exactly what he is doing.

Posted December 23, 2012 8:58 pm 


Vitaly is the GOAT. Nobody that watched lewis struggle to survive against vitaly comes away saying lewis looked good. In fact if u listen to american or english broadcast none of it sounded good for lennox. The rowd doesn’t boo a guy who does good, sorry for that revelation. That’s why he promised vitaly a rematch and couldn’t come through. He would get the beating kirk johnson and corrie sanders got. That’s my view and I think its the majoriy view. Tark has it right on the descriprtion the cuts andhow they happened. Its an age old foul even used by ali against cooper. EVERYONE knows about it

Posted December 23, 2012 4:58 pm 


Merry Xmas, Nameless gotta keep these guys abreast of the truth, Tark and other notable space cases on ESB substitute cyberspace for reality… ie “Klits beat Lewis 10 years ago” sick minds abound on Klit threads… LOL

Posted December 23, 2012 2:34 pm 


Merry Xmas redmond. This guy is poster of year on this board, keeping klits fans reality checked.

Posted December 23, 2012 12:32 pm 


Klits fans are against this because vittles gets beat – as simple as that

Posted December 23, 2012 11:26 am 


The notion that Vitali “dominated Lewis” has to be the MOST ridiculous idea I have EVER heard… Dominating means your opponent is not in the fight, he is not causing you the slightest trouble and you are running away from the bout if not battering him to the ground… Vitali met NONE of those criteria vs Lewis he won the 2nd handily and after that it was give and take with the MOST noteworthy and damaging shots being landed by Lewis… No one discusses the MASSIVE uppercut Vitali landed on Lewis, they discuss the shots Lennox was planting on Vitali… No one makes excuses for the punches that Vitali landed because most did almost no damage, whereas Klit loyalist go on and on about the nature of Lewis blows because they left Klits a BLOODY mess and a man who has spent his career leeching his identity off of a loss and attaching himself to Wlads GREATER resume of achievement…Hes NOT the best of this ERA and thats clear

Posted December 23, 2012 8:55 am 


For the morons who don’t know the Pac Man quadrilogy, he was down 3 times in round one during the first bout, and the last bout you should have seen by now unless you live under a ROCK

Posted December 23, 2012 8:28 am 


Typo=A couple guys who beat Wlad

Posted December 23, 2012 8:20 am 


Bears, I see you trying to NOW sell Chisora as having lost “4 times” in a row post Haye? This differs from your prior acknowledgement of the epic robbery he received at the hands of Helenius nice little PR spin… Chisora no more lost to Helenius than Pacquiao did to Bradley, NO ONE even acknowledged those robberies as wins and the sport went on as if they had never happened…Chisora’s stock was HIGH after Helenius and Vitali, people saw him push Klits and force him to fight… Vitali himself praised Chisoras efforts even after getting the pissed slapped out his self… Then comes David Haye who DESTROYS Chisora in a manner that Fury, Vitali and the rest of the BIG guy contingent could only dream of…Suddenly Vitalis fans are keeping him MILES away from a guy who made his mark at Cruiser… Manuel Charr was a YOUNGER, and physically BIGGER gun but he cannot fight so that was OK for Klits? Whereas Haye is a threat!

Posted December 23, 2012 8:19 am 


Tark and Co want to sell Vitali as GOAT fighter on the strength of him beating a couple of guys that Wlad beat…. Both Corrie Sanders and Ross Purrity were VERY beatable by World Class fighters… The reality that they UPSET Wlad does NOT make Vitali look better in the slightest… Vitali can count himself among Rahman, Tubbs and others who beat Sanders who had almost NO track record against World Class opponents… Ross Purritys TERRIBLE run in boxing is well documented, stopped in his second fight, he had something like 3, 3 fight losing streaks and a 4 fight losing streak before he got to Wlad… Vitali simply beat guys that were FODDER at the upper level….

Posted December 23, 2012 8:13 am 


Tark, when are you going to resign as BITTER poster of the century and a own the fact Vitali Klits got rightfully stopped by Lennox Lewis? The bout is only this massive controversy in the minds of yourself and Bears? Despite those who had it etched in stone Vitali was going to carry that 2 point lead to the 12th round it was NEVER allowed to occur because Vitali does NOT have magic in his gloves or spirit like a Juan Manuel Marquez, Wlad is NOT that kind of fighter either… Pretty much when the going gets REALLY tough for the Klits they lost or they QUIT… When Marquez was badly hurt and bleeding what did he do the other night? He dug deep and got the KO instead of trying to sell us his version of the outcome 6 rounds later… Both bouts ended (Lewis/Klits) Pac/Marquez IV in the 6th round…. One man found the magic, one man didn’t…..

Posted December 23, 2012 8:09 am 


After Vitali Haye should look to face Ali while Ali is still alive

Posted December 23, 2012 3:49 am 


whats ?says I never heard or read a statement any more true then that

Posted December 23, 2012 3:16 am 


Fact is wlad is not exciting but he did enough to win. Like it or not he fought his usal boring fight kept his title and thats that . Haye on the other hand got a chance that many fighters can only dream of .and what did he do throw himself on the ground. look to the ref for help> He did every thing he could but fight . Haye won about 2 rds total in that fight because he just didnt try . As a contender in a multi million dollar fight when you see you are behind big and wont take a chance you fought a poor fight . I will go futher then that because wlad fought his usall dull fight doesnt mean that david haye didnt fight like a coward . my biggest surprise isnt that david haye fooled every once its that he wants to do it again .and some people want to see it again

Posted December 23, 2012 3:02 am 


That’s not a lot.. Ali grabbed Frazier 23 times in one round.. Smokin’ was sub 6 foot.. Maybe Hatton has the record for the last 2 rounds of the Collazo fight. The only time it’s not smart to hold is when a referee says, “You hold again I’m taking a point.” It’s a foul but rarely called. Many referees will break up clinches 200 times without taking a point.

Mills Lane DQ’d Henry Akinwande for holding Lewis.. He said, “You hold again you’re out of here.” …. That’s a big order when it’s about the 3rd round.

Posted December 23, 2012 2:55 am 


a sucker has to be anyone who paid to see wlad grab sub 6 footer 16 times in one rd

Posted December 23, 2012 2:32 am 


I didnt see much bravery from wlad with his grabbing shoving down backing up etc neither fighter gets bravery awards for that one

Posted December 23, 2012 2:31 am 


Haye talked his way into a multi million dollar title fight with wlad . He fought like a coward that he really is Ttakes of his slipper shows the world a bad toe as reason he didnt fight .Retires sstarts a fight at apress confrence. and beats a guy chisora who has now lost 4 fights in a row . Says I fought the wrong brother . I meant to fight vitali and this time I really will fight .If you keep repeating the same lie some people will belive you because there is a sucker born every single min . and david haye knows this

Posted December 23, 2012 2:28 am 


THO6 may soon become KO?

Posted December 23, 2012 1:51 am 


Haye takes this, klits manager knows. vitali retires with a loss to lewis his peak

Posted December 23, 2012 1:50 am 

Wlad Fan (the haters are in KLIT Denial!)

OK…and I want to pull a young Heather Locklear out of a time machine and bang her in the ass. I’m not sure which is more likely to happen!

Posted December 23, 2012 1:37 am 


Lmao stfu haye. Wouldn’t want u to lose bc of a hangnail this time

Posted December 23, 2012 1:15 am 


Yes…. I think you’re a blind idiot lefthook… Was VK ever down or staggered??? NO!
Was Lewis staggered to the point he was reeling??? Damned right!!! Who was ahead on ALL 3 CARDS??? VITALI WAS

Who was the referee??? Lou Moret… Who was fouling his ass off??? LEWIS

Posted December 22, 2012 11:11 pm 

Ray Ray

Yeah well, I want Jessica Alba 2 have a child with me but we don’t all get what we want. Vitali would punish Haye as would atleast 10 other guys

Posted December 22, 2012 11:06 pm 


Tark.. Give it up already wi the Lewis crap, seriously man. A half fit lewis was well on the way to knocking klit tfo. Do u think we are all blind. I am sure half the long time posters hav had this conversation with u hundreds of times

Posted December 22, 2012 10:37 pm 


Bears…. YES, Haye was not at his best against Wladimir because of the injury.. He couldn’t train right for the last 3 weeks. He would have lost the fight anyway, but he got greedy for the 15 million and concealed the injury. Not cool. Vitali wasn’t at his best vs Lewis, Byrd, and Chisora because of various injuries. These things happen. Lewis had a ready excuse for getting flattened twice—but LL was lucky and got rematches. Was Haye at his best against Chisora? Yes. He matured as a heavyweight, brought his weight down, tuned his skills up, and was operating on all cylinders. I don’t agree that Barrett floored Haye or that Ruiz performed like anything but crap against Haye, but David was still getting his heavyweight legs at that point. Right now he’s a formidable heavyweight for anybody. He’s not doing his talent justice by not taking on more heavyweights and not being open to more matchups … This is the way he wants to play it—it’s his career.

Posted December 22, 2012 10:20 pm 


VK DID beat LL… The fight should have gone to the scorecards—because those numerous deep jagged cuts on the left side of Vitali’s face WEREN’T ripped wide open with legal punches—but caused by cuffs with the palm of Lewis’s glove while he was holding Vitali in a headlock.. With a neutral referee—instead of Lou Moret—Vitali wins that fight on ALL cards—for the simple reason he was WINNING the fight on ALL cards and the cuts that stopped the fight weren’t caused by legal blows.

By the way—Lou Moret was the same referee who never called a foul in the Guerrero-Berto fight. Very strange, because the fighters committed over a hundred fouls and Guerrero threw at least 20 punches AFTER the final bell.

Posted December 22, 2012 9:42 pm 


Too bad Vitali never beat Lewis…Oh well.

Posted December 22, 2012 8:41 pm 

The Kingslayer

Just make the fight already.

Posted December 22, 2012 7:32 pm 

Enter The Hayemaker

David had to take some time out to allow his toe to retain 100% fitness. With all ten pinkies in prime fighting order, both Klits in the ring together wouldn’t hear the bell sounding the end of round two. Anybody who knows anything about boxing knows it’s all in the toes…….. sheesh…

Posted December 22, 2012 5:58 pm 


Vitali called out Lewis for a second fight but Lewis avoided it and retired. Now haye is calling out vitali and vitali may retire. Hmmm….if he doesn’t take the haye fight and retires I don’t ever wanna hear vitali (or his fans) complain about Lewis not giving him a rematch.

Posted December 22, 2012 4:07 pm 


The only thing that’s dangerous about the Toe Fairy , is his mouth . All his other ” dangerous ” weapons , we saw against Wlad , when he was running and flopping for twelve rounds while getting his ass kicked whenever Wlad caught up with him ! No one needs to see him run
from Vitaly now . Vitaly will just ignore the phony .

Posted December 22, 2012 3:56 pm 


this guy a clown of what!

Posted December 22, 2012 3:48 pm 


Tark- a prime wlad fought a hae who wasn’t at his best? What? I don’t get it. Haye retires and gets peak after the loss to wlad andshows it by handing chisora his 3rd or 4th loss in a row that he has improved since wlad? If that is what your saying I don’t agree. If your saying the toe largely effected his game again I disagree. Hay has been wide open. Barret basically dropped haye. The last rope kept haye from hitting the canvas. Ruiz busted him up. Hayes got speed and power but he is wide open. To say the haye wlad smoked was not peak haye I just can’t agree

Posted December 22, 2012 3:21 pm 

Red Ryan

I dont want to see Haye anywhere near Vitali, i would rather watch Vitali fight Carr another three times than see Haye in there. At least Carr would fight back unlike that scared chicken Haye who would certainly run for twelve rounds again. You people are crazy if you think for one second Haye would not run all night, even from an ageing Vitali. Haye wants big pay day and NO DAMAGE and he will say ANYTHING to get it………

Posted December 22, 2012 3:09 pm 

Cheese Cake

You look very smart. I’m jealous.

Posted December 22, 2012 2:58 pm 

Cheese Cake

WOah we have a tough guy here

Posted December 22, 2012 2:57 pm 

Cheese Cake

No matter who much you cry, this is the biggest HW fight right now.

Posted December 22, 2012 2:55 pm 

terror tim

So all Haye ever has to do for some of you to get a big fight is sit out for awhile, talk trash and take an easy fight. After his poor performance vs Wladimir he needs to go take some real fights. Boxing doesn’t need another fight where this guy talks up a fight than fights like a coward.

Posted December 22, 2012 2:38 pm 

The Best!


Posted December 22, 2012 2:36 pm 


Vitali shouldn’t do the fight… Haye is a prime fighter coming off his peak performance. Vitali is 41 and looking to retire and pursue politics. Even 18 months ago it would have been a dfferent fight than it is today. Pacman showed where divided attention gets you.

Vitali easily KO’d 3 heavyweights who knocked Wladimir down a total of 8 times and knocked Wladimir out twice—while losing to Byrd because of injury, when he was miles ahead of the slick boxer—who Wladimir easily boxed to death twice. Vitali has massively better results facing the same opponents and had the better of Wladimir when they sparred years ago. They stopped sparring because it wasn’t an even matchup. But all that was before Wladimir had the benefit of 9 years of coaching under one of the greatest trainers in the history of Boxing. A prime Wladimir fought a Haye who wasn’t at his best.

Posted December 22, 2012 2:30 pm 


He beat Chisora with mostly one arm throughout the fight….a win is a win! He will destroy Haye if they ever fought….in FACT, I would fear for Hayes life.

Posted December 22, 2012 2:04 pm 


A c level fighter who vitali couldn’t beat inside the distance.

Posted December 22, 2012 1:59 pm 


I Just don’t get it, he gets a gift shot at Wladimir by shouting his mouth off and then pushes to the front of the line, loses in embarrassing style by getting pummeled by Wlad for 12 rounds….Then does nothing for months, fights a C level fighter in Chisora and now expects another title shot? Why would Vitali want to fight this guy? he don’t deserve a shot at the title again….this time he needs to get in line and fight 5 or 6 decent top 10 heavyweights to prove he deserves a shot….unbelievable.

Posted December 22, 2012 1:56 pm 


if Fury can beat Chisora so 50 heavyweights and 15 cruiserweights can beat Chisora too, not a big deal for Haye, and Haye remember me the french during the world war 2, they waiting the weakening of the german army (by the Americans and Russians) to come out of hiding and play the warriors!

Posted December 22, 2012 1:54 pm 


Honestly, where do you guys come up with these crazy ideas . For a start wlad didn’t ‘kick the crap’ out of haye. Wlad’s face looked more marked after the fight. Of course haye lost due to how cautious he was. Wouldn’t you be cautious fighting someone who is the equivalent of 5 weight divisions heavier than you? If haye gets his tactics right the vitali fight could be very interesting. Unfortunately no one who is in the klits weight class is any good. And that includes your hopeless fighters like deontay and Seth.

Posted December 22, 2012 1:30 pm 


Jerome Harris,
David Haye is too fast is he??? I take it you didn’t see the hiding that Wlad dished out on Haye then did you? Just for your information, Wlad was just as fast and mobile as Haye, with better footwork, jab, power, defense etc etc. Had Haye not run for the 12 rounds and actually stuck and fought, he would have suffered that KO you are talking about

Posted December 22, 2012 1:29 pm 


I like David Haye ….he doesn’t stop running his mouth but he can back up the talk. The Chisora ass whippin at the press conference and in the ring proved that. Yeah the toe thing against Wladimor was kind’a weak but he did give WK a much tougher fighter than any of the ho hopers he’s been fighting the last few years. I think Haye has a good shot at knocking this old, semi retired version of Vitali out

Posted December 22, 2012 1:28 pm 


Agree w/the overwhelming majority here.
Haye is a good HW but he has made more money out of his talent than any HW on the planet. His best win vs a live (young) HW was vs Chisora. The rest of his HW wins (except maybe for the Valuev MD) were against has beens who never were.

Now he’s calling for 41+ y/o Vitali – uh huh. If I were Vitali I’d put DH on ignore.
Haye is in his prime yrs, VK is not. However anything close to a prime VK ABUSES Haye.

DH should fight a few top 10-15 HWs and EARN his next title shot.

Posted December 22, 2012 1:23 pm 

Marl Sosa

If I were Vitali I wont give Haye the time or day.

Posted December 22, 2012 1:02 pm 


Haye reminds me of a used car salesman. All talk

Posted December 22, 2012 1:01 pm 


Please I don’t want to see this idjit in the ring with a Klit. Let him fight the winner of goral/cunningspam

Posted December 22, 2012 12:46 pm 


David Haye is like a dog which having rolled around in feces (his sorry performance against Wlad & his thuggish press conference behavior with Chisora) wants then to snuggle up to its master. Sorry, David – remove the stench from your person before seeking the ultimate prize in boxing. Yes, it may take time, but then at least you’ve got the opportunity.

Posted December 22, 2012 11:18 am 


Sadly this is the only fight worth watching and vitali going to win no arguements there

Posted December 22, 2012 11:14 am 


Yes David, I’m sure you do. The only problem with that is He is tougher than Vladimir who virtually kicked the crap out of you

Posted December 22, 2012 11:12 am 


I don’t think haye should get a shot….but it would be nice to see him get KOd.Haye has just showed he will do anything for money by going on celebrity jungle.(oh and fighting harrison and chisora them two superstars)stick to fitness DVDs and iPhone games boxings got enough loud mouths your not special you haven’t earned a shot so do what you promist and retire.

Posted December 22, 2012 11:11 am 


Haye, stop with the big talk — we’ve heard it all before. After your last Klitschko fiasco, you don’t deserve another title shot. (And you’ve done nothing since your Klitschko non-event to deserve one.) Go fight and beat a few top-10 heavies, then come back and do your talking.

Posted December 22, 2012 8:42 am 


I wanna be rihanna’s new boyfriend in 2013, i think i will write to santa and go to the local newsagents where I will hope to read about David Hayes Psychiatric treatment for grand delusions.

Posted December 22, 2012 7:58 am 


This dude is a joke he was given a chance and what he doses lie his way out of things!

Posted December 22, 2012 7:40 am 


Haye on fights 38, 39, 40 year olds? His last 5 opponets were 36, 38, 40, 35, 28, Ruiz was mandatory so he had no choice, and he made a load of money for the harrison fight, can’t say I would have made a different choice. So only 40% of his last few fights were in your old category, and 1 wasnt his choice. Vitali is the champion hence he wants to fight him. Please advise what he should do different and who out there has a better record that vitali should fight instead?

Posted December 22, 2012 7:04 am 


I want to shag Jennifer Lopez in 2013.

Posted December 22, 2012 6:47 am 


English bum

Posted December 22, 2012 5:44 am 


Easy fight for Vitali. No matter, all this f@ggot Haye wants is a big pay day so he can go retire again. He will take the humiliation and his millions and go laugh at the idiot fans that supported him.

Posted December 22, 2012 4:41 am 

Layla Ali

Vitali has more skills than the author affords him I’m afraid. Haye opens up, giving Vitali opportunities to land blows, counter or not. Haye would be an easier opponent than Chisora was. Vitali when fighting quality opponents always rises to the challenge and that’s when he does his best !

Posted December 22, 2012 4:35 am 


Jennings is the real deal… He’s willing to fight often and make progressive moves up. I don’t think Wilder is the right fight for him immediately. That big, fast, explosive right hander could possibly pose a problem for Jennings at this point. Deontay really rains down those right handers in wicked fashion. Wladimir gave DW some tips on getting a clearer target for his right and getting more speed, deception, and extention on his jab, which DW still needs to work on … Jennings should try for Arreola, Adamek, Boytsov, Povetkin, Hanks, Mitchell, Chisora, Helenius, Wach, or Rodriguez next. Bryant needs a few of these more hittable heavies just to tighten up his defense a few notches—before he’ll be ready for the Pulev’s Haye’s, Wilder’s, Price’s, and Fury’s of the world—maybe in 2014 or 15—when possibly Wladimir will leave the heavyweight scene to this new crop of outstanding heavyweights.

Posted December 22, 2012 2:30 am 


Awesome replay of the fight. I hope others got to enjoy it

Posted December 22, 2012 1:57 am 


Oh my god! Killer ko by jennings on tupou!

Posted December 22, 2012 1:49 am 


Whatever happens I don’t care I wanna see topou again! Ref is bullspit! Topou blasted jennings and dropped him ref calls it a slip. They were booing topou in phily bad too. Let’s go topou!

Posted December 22, 2012 1:42 am 


Jennings is hurt and dropped by topou! Hell of a fight! Like both theseguys!

Posted December 22, 2012 1:40 am 


Good heavyweight bout goin here round 1!.! Jennings vs topou live!

Posted December 22, 2012 1:28 am 


Be sweet if topou knocks jennings out anyone watching this? Surprised east side doesn’t have a thread goin for it. Jennings is cool

Posted December 22, 2012 1:28 am 


Does david haye ever tell the truth ? no !The klitcho wont face me . Im going to ko wlad klitchko . Im going to retire when im 30 . If the klitchko wont fight me im going to retire . I lost the fight because I hurt my toe . If you give me another crack at the title I will put in more effort this time

Posted December 22, 2012 12:12 am 


DG are you crazy some how suggesting that haye fought a good fight.? against wlad .IN that fight haye ran away .threw himself on the ground so many times that the ref got so tired of it he actually started to count one of hayes throw downs as aknock down . Haye refused to actually fight. Most any contender can go the distance with a champ if there sole purpose in the fight was to survive. Ever time wlad got close to him haye would run away or throw himself on the ground . Haye never put it on the line never tried to win that fight . And after the fight instead of taking the money and loss. He further embarresed himself and decieve his foolish fans by jumping up on a table taking off his shoe and blaming his toe for the losss. I guess blaming the toe haye was hoping people might belive him and he get another big pay day and another title shot without having to face a contender

Posted December 22, 2012 12:04 am 


how about working your way back by beating a few contenders before he gets another title fight after that last farce when he got a title shot

Posted December 21, 2012 11:44 pm 


why doesnt that big mouth coward go into wrestling it suits him better because he no prize fighter

Posted December 21, 2012 11:42 pm 


they should let haye fight vitali and if he wins he should fight ali . this way he might come in and really try to win

Posted December 21, 2012 11:40 pm 


why doesnt haye wait to klitchko 46 or so he has his chance. with wlad he talked his way into the fight but once he got there he forget to fight

Posted December 21, 2012 11:39 pm 


vitali is past it now. wlad is the man to beat

Posted December 21, 2012 11:17 pm 



Posted December 21, 2012 11:05 pm 


domination is Vitali vs Adamek lol….

Posted December 21, 2012 9:45 pm 


lol…blind bats…Wlad dominated Haye ….lol

Posted December 21, 2012 9:43 pm 


Vitali is a Champion but Dh is chump. Retire chump-please GTFO.

Posted December 21, 2012 9:42 pm 

M. De Guzman in the Bahamas

M. De Guzman : Vitali is way way past it. Its over anyway.

Posted December 21, 2012 8:16 pm 

powered by klitschKO

exiled yank- are you old yank? i agreee. i cant believe the haye lords have suraced in support of haye. his showing was so sad and pathetic he couldnt even hardly go back to london for a long time. people were literally pissed at his piss poor showing in the ring. he was flopping (intentionally falling down in the ring trying to draw fouls) talk about dishonorable. he wouldnt fight. he literally blamed a little toe and showed it, then he talks about retirement before and after every fight. I think haye can be a good fighter if he had the will of a warrior but he does not. he gave chisora his 4th or 5th loss in a row. vitaly dominated this man with one arm. to me that is the most impressive like he dominated lewis with one eye for 66% of the fight. vitaly is the goat, haye is a nobody

Posted December 21, 2012 7:48 pm 

powered by klitschKO

brittard- “a real cliffhanger” …….lol funny stuff man keep those gems rolling!

Posted December 21, 2012 7:33 pm 

Exiled Yank

Haye has lost his mind. He couldn’t even KO Wladdy, who is the more wobbly of the brothers.

Posted December 21, 2012 7:32 pm 

powered by klitschKO

that larry merchant quote on david haye was one of the BEST quotes of his i have ever heard. I love larry merchant and believe him to the best commentator in history. im also a big fan of dan rafael. EPIX always has a great crew at the head of which is dan rafael.

Posted December 21, 2012 7:29 pm 


i want to ko vitlay klitschKO” -haye……….is this because wladimir klitschKO dominated you? because he did and he put his mushroom stamp on your forhead. it was the funniest damage i ever seen wladimir put on someone and it was on you david haye. david haye getting a title fight or even a title like he did the wba is a nightmare for heavyweight boxing. haye only fights 38, 39, and 40+ year olds as he is trying to do now. haye is again targeting one of the oldest fighters in the division. lol…..quite the motif. lets pretend haye did get a title. he would fight once maybe twice a year at most and it would be guys like barret, ruiz, and harrisson. haye is the one guy you force to fight the top of the crop.

Posted December 21, 2012 7:26 pm 


Haye is in this for one reason only and thats the buck !

Posted December 21, 2012 5:54 pm 


@ Fight Aficionado – Haye is a world class jerk, but the reality is that at this point in Vitali’s career, Haye poses the biggest threat than anyone out there today. True Haye stunk up the joint against Wlad, but people always fail to realise that Wlad and Vitali are very different fighters. Vitali likes to fight and rarely clinches, whereas Wlad grabs at the least sign of danger. I know that Klit fans don’t like to hear it, but both Haye and Wlad were at fault for the lack of action (a la Wlad vs Ibragimov). Am I saying that Haye will definitely beat Vtali?…. of course not. But I think that Haye more than earned the right to fight Vitali based on his destruction of Chisora, who gave Vitali his toughest fight in a long time. Peace.

Posted December 21, 2012 5:51 pm 

Fight Aficionado

LOL. I can’t believe there’s some deranged Faye fans saying this is too much risk for Vitali. Reference Toe Boy’s shameful “fight” vs Wlad. He’s got no balls and retreats as soon as he eats a decent punch. GTFO with this risk nonsense. Faye was proven all talk long ago.

Posted December 21, 2012 5:38 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Fight Aficionado: I want to bang Bijou Phillips in 2013.

Posted December 21, 2012 5:36 pm 


The fight is too risky for Vitali at 41 who’s started clearly showing his age. In his prime Haye has no chance! He shouldn’t let a no mark like Haye soil his good reputation now. Time for old man Vit to walk off into Politics ands leave boxing to his younger bro.

Posted December 21, 2012 5:29 pm 


vitaly klitschko is 41 he is too old en schould retire …. david hay would never take that fight against vitaly in his prime …

Posted December 21, 2012 4:59 pm 


I also want to fight Vitali in 2013. And no, I don’t want to figt anyone else

Posted December 21, 2012 4:25 pm 


Go away talker . We need a fighter not a trunk kisser. you did not deserve first time a title shot you do not deserve it now . Fight your way , do not talk your way to the title fight again .

Posted December 21, 2012 4:21 pm 

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