Another klit Licker.Posted August 24, 2014 7:19 am
Stupid (Anonymous) says.., “Lewis beat Herman klit up,it”s in the book”
So… Lewis didn’t beat Holyfield twice??? … because it’s not in the book???
Because it’s in the book you’re going to believe it??? You retarded bastard.Posted August 23, 2014 7:03 pm
SREDMOND = ANONYMOUS —-nice tryPosted August 23, 2014 3:34 pm
Lewis beat Herman klit up,it”s in the book you fuc#ing Retards.Posted August 23, 2014 3:21 pm
K-2-Fan & TARK — Excellent posts, and I agree 100%. This guy SREDMOND is blinded by his own racism, and cannot accept the truth if it hit him on the head. I understand everyone is entitled to an opinion, but it is disappointing that SREDMOND dislikes the Klitschkos because they are white. AND, he posts his warped comments under other names on this site. A sad man.Posted August 23, 2014 1:12 pm
Poor, poor Sredmond , he is simply stuck in his old mode continually gloating over Vitaly’s cut , that saved Lewis from getting beaten ! He doesn’t want to admit that ; Vitaly WAS hammering Lenny , he can’t face the fact that Vitaly was ahead on ALL cards at the time of stoppage , he
Sredmond lies.., “Vitali has DEFINATELY been beaten, he is a QUITTER and he was bludgeoned to the point he could not continue”
Vitali wasn’t bludgeoned.. You get points for bludgeoning people and LL was behind on all scorecards.. As you could plainly see by the way Lewis was staggered and almost went down, Vitali landed the best punches in the fight.. Lewis landed one (1) big uppercut, but it didn’t move or stagger Vitali at all..
There was no swelling around the eyes or cheek where the 3 deep jagged cuts were.. It looked like somebody slashed them open with laces or tape edges – the kind of thing one get when you rake somebody’s face with the palm of your glove – which the video record clearly shows Lewis did.
Obviously if the fight went to the scorecards like it should have — Vitali would have won a Unanimous Technical Decision because he was ahead on all scorecards.Posted August 23, 2014 2:25 am
Bill Patrice Jones equivocates all over the place…
“I was the head of my own company… Oops, the head of my own department I mean, sorry. My vision was so bad I couldn’t compete in Boxing. That’s my excuse… I was a respected journalist for years but nobody ever heard of me.. I never said Froch needed a KO to beat Groves… Wait, I guess I did say that.”
What a pathetic lying asshol@ … and I never said who I trained, so saying I said I trained this person or that person are more filthy lies from a BULLSHlTTER like you.Posted August 23, 2014 2:07 am
It*Posted August 23, 2014 12:52 am
If takes two to tango to have a good fight !Posted August 23, 2014 12:52 am
Wlad has stunk out his TWO biggest fights at HW (Povetkin and Haye) both of his opponents played a role in the funk but Wlads desire for absolute safety and repetitive clinches created affairs that were DULL in the extreme given his size, power and the expectations of a HW Champion..”
Hahahahaha …. So wlad “stunk ” against haye who you said and most of wlads haters haye would tkfo that ” China chin” wlad??? Lol … Wlad was chasing haye all night long who supposed to go after wlad since he is shorter you hater !Posted August 23, 2014 12:51 am
Shakespear—You know what is ironic ? SREDMOND actually liked the Klitschkos until he learned they were white !! True story. ANONYMOUS confirmed it.Posted August 22, 2014 10:28 pm
RACEMOND still on about an 11 year old fight? Really sad that this ni@@er clings to an old fight (That LL was LOSING on ALL THREE CARDS) while the K Bros did nothing but dominate HW over that period of time. No black HW was even a factor over that 11 years. Wlad still owns HW and the best blacks can do is Wilder. Wilder, who is a complete and utter fraud. What a butt hurt little m0nkey.Posted August 22, 2014 10:14 pm
SREDMOND– the WORLD wanted the rematch–EVERYBODY but you, Lennox, and Lennox’s mammie. Lennox did not stop him, the Doc did. Who was ahead at that time?? The fact is Vitali has NEVER been trailing in any pro fight. You are so elated with a cut, caused by Lennox lacing him in a clinch. Please explain why Lennox retired rather than rematch and collect a HUGE purse. Even his fans wanted it. He had a chance to cement his legacy, and punked out. OKAY–now tell us all again about this life saving cut to Vitali which saved Lewis’ ass. Anybody that retires on that type of win is a punk—and you even know it. P-U-N-KPosted August 22, 2014 9:34 pm
Well, you said he was using a club. I didn’t see him holding one.Posted August 22, 2014 4:56 pm
Moby Dick, he might as well have been look at his GRILL post bout????Posted August 22, 2014 3:03 pm
Please hold me wlad, so I can sting you with my left, all night long. It will hurt. Go Pulev!Posted August 22, 2014 2:56 pm
Are you saying He”s a pri#k then.Posted August 22, 2014 2:53 pm
Bludgeoned? Was Lewis using a club?Posted August 22, 2014 1:00 pm
Vitali has DEFINATELY been beaten, he is a QUITTER and he was bludgeoned to the point he could not continue… these are just established points of fact that internet trolls and wackos cannot change no matter how fast and loose they play with the facts…Posted August 22, 2014 12:43 pm
Lewis NEVER ducked Vitali he ALREADY defeated him and some consider Vitali as having avoided Haye at the end to fight BUMS in far less lucrative fights where scrubs like Charr were passed off as good competition..Posted August 22, 2014 12:42 pm
K2, Vitali hammered NOTHING the guy could not even produce a KD, when you talk about “hammered” think about Klitschkos face BEFORE and AFTER the bout… All we would have needed was a hot grill and some mashed potatoes and Klits face would have made an excellent steak dinner…Posted August 22, 2014 12:40 pm
Bill Patrice Jones
@K-2 Fan. It’s best not to disturb Tark. He’s busy in a Lon Ageneles gym working with some world champions!!! F*cking fake insulting disrespectful wormPosted August 22, 2014 12:23 pm
Poor , poor Sredmond ! He still can’t get over how Vitali hammered his chicken hearted ” lion ” !
Bill Patrice Jones
Boxtradamus??? Is that youtube account set up yet??? That’s your way of genuinely recording these ‘definite predictions.’ It’s been three fight weekends since you said you were going to??Posted August 22, 2014 11:11 am
All this nonsense with Briggs will lead to lack of FOCUS for Wlad. Pulev wins with SKILLS over an aging Klitschko. I’m counting down to my victory cigar on September 6th. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 22, 2014 10:54 am
Jim, the reality is that the 12th round was where Wlad really went on the attack and tried to make something happen.. Manny Steward was chiding him as the bout wore on because he knew the critiques of his fighter… Wlad was being too cautious against a guy who is a big puncher but undersized and was NOT throwing a lot…Posted August 22, 2014 10:31 am
Bill Patrice Jones
If Wladimir had been more aggressive then the; mega fight with Haye, the Peter rematch, the Povetkin unification would have all been very entertaining fan friendly fights and he almost certainly would have won them all. He stifled three potentially very exciting fights there. But I agree, his negativity against a n aggressive light Peter in 2010 is NOTHING compared to his display against Povetkin. I was really truly disgusted shocked and thought what the f*ck when I saw that fight. The worst he’s ever looked and he could legally have been DQedPosted August 22, 2014 10:30 am
Not sure what SREDMOND meant by the Haye fight. Haye ran the entire damn fight, bad toe and all. How on earth did Wladimir play safe in that fight ?? Haye had only one chance–leap in with a haymaker and try to land it–that was his strategy. Who played it safe there SREDMOND ??Posted August 22, 2014 10:23 am
SREDMOND is up and posting. We will soon be hearing from ANONYMOUS I believe !!Posted August 22, 2014 10:19 am
The Povetkin fight was ugly because of both guys, not just Klitschko. Povetkin would leap in, and if he didn’t land, he grabbed on. Because Klitschko is taller, it always appears he is draping himself over the opponent, when in fact, it was Povetkin charging in, eating some leather, and hugging. I tell some of the haters to watch Lennox’s fight with Tyson—identical tactics.Posted August 22, 2014 10:15 am
Wlad has stunk out his TWO biggest fights at HW (Povetkin and Haye) both of his opponents played a role in the funk but Wlads desire for absolute safety and repetitive clinches created affairs that were DULL in the extreme given his size, power and the expectations of a HW Champion..Posted August 22, 2014 9:50 am
w.k easy win.Posted August 22, 2014 7:52 am
Pulev to win!Posted August 22, 2014 7:36 am
The1, you must’ve missed the Leapi fight, in which there was maybe 2 clinches in the whole fight. I was disgusted by Wlad’s tactics against Povetkin, but he got the win.Posted August 22, 2014 6:39 am
I used to love the Ks but Wlad’s brother is a political puppet and he is an actor in co’op with Briggs. I don’t like Wlad’s style since Manny has passed (RIP Emanuel Steward). Wlad seems to have regressed and Povetkin was all over him while Wlad hugged the better part of the whole fight. Start fighting Wlad, i’m tired of the safety first against every fighter.Posted August 22, 2014 6:37 am
ALL OF U CHUMPS R GON BOW
I hate 2 brake it 2 most of U, but Pulev is about to burn the heavyweight division. Hes about 2 pull the BIG surprice, trust me on this.
Vlad is obviously having a good time for being awesome athelte and desrves most of what he has acheived, but that time will run out. As soon as it does… KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK … there ‘s the knock – 6th of september – GAME OVER 4 VLAD – PULEV TAKES OVER.Posted August 22, 2014 5:54 am
Bill Patrice Jones
@Unbiased Dane. I don’t think Povetkin was looking to survive before about the seventh. He wanted to exchange on the inside but Wladimir refused to let him. Similarly when Wladimir fought Peter in their hyped rematch, Sam was very aggressive and up for that fight, against any other big man he would have landed several big bombs, but Wladimir was just too athletic and only got caught a handful of times. Yet in both of those fights I agree that when Peter and Povetkin were dead tired they were part of the problem with the clinches. All that being said, I’m a huge Wladimir fan but I was utterly disgusted by his performance against Povetkin. For me given the circumstances that is his single worst ever in ring performance.Posted August 22, 2014 5:33 am
Bill Patrice Jones sure Wlads fight against Povetkin was one of his worst fights, with all the clinching, but Povetkin was also to blaim, it became clear early on that keeping his head against Wlads chest was the only way to survive.Posted August 22, 2014 5:04 am
Bill Patrice Jones
As for this fight. It’s not an easy matchup for either guy. If Pulev was bigger and had a longer reach then he could make this into a very tactical and closely fought battle of the jabs, as he possesses an excellent fast jab himself. Unfortunately the size difference, though not monstrous, will mean Klitschko will be able to land his own jab without getting into firing range, and Pulev’s attempts to step into a double jab might result in; clinching or Wladimir simply skipping back and getting ready for the next of his own shots. People can say Pulev should just take chances and come forward, but Povetkin fought like that. Alexander was genuinely upfor that fight and tried to get close and fire off his short fast accurate hooks. The plan backfired completely because Wladimir just held the sh*t out of him anytime he came forward thus nullifying his arsenal. I hope Pulev makes a fight of thisPosted August 22, 2014 4:40 am
Bill Patrice Jones
I’ve never been nasty to anyone on any forum, chat room or boxing debate. But Tark you did it to yourself spouting off such outrageous liesPosted August 22, 2014 4:35 am
MrSnow, AGAIN Wlad does have a habit of banging out sparring partners like Tony Thompson and Pianeta or was it Wach? Jus sayin man don’t get so angry, I fully expect Wlads reign during this terrible ERA of HW boxing to continue unabated for awhile longer
Posted August 21, 2014 12:38 pm ”
Lmao !!! Here we go again with sredmond’s hate “his terrible era ” bs … What happen to
Hey listen everyone. Tark and Boxtra only carry on because others respond. If we all ignore. All their posts, thus immeasurably improving the discussion, they may eventually get bored with playing with themselves and go away. A fire needs oxygen to burn.Posted August 22, 2014 4:09 am
Bill Patrice Jones
@Head of department sorryPosted August 22, 2014 2:32 am
Bill Patrice Jones
@Tark. Yeah of course!! I own my own company and am head of head at a private school, and was a well respected boxing journalist for years. Where am I a liar? You piss on everyone who ever boxed by pretending to have been a ranked heavyweight boxer and a world renowned trainer. No one respects it. It’s a f*cking joke. It makes you a laughing stock. No one here disagrees. If you really were any of the things you claim you would just go ‘here’s my record, here’s my ABA record and this is the gym I trained guys in.’ What possible reason would you have to not prove such outrageous claims??? Why?Posted August 22, 2014 2:31 am
@ Bill Patrice Jones, you’re a pathetic loser and pathological liar who doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. This whole thing was to distract from you claiming Froch needed a KO to beat Groves in their 1st fight — obviously a damnable lie so you attacked me.
Everything I said is true. You asked me about my background so I told you. I’ve done a lot better than your pathetic little career. I don’t have to prove anything to an asshol@ like you.Posted August 22, 2014 2:19 am
Tark never knocked out a ranking heavyweight lol. He was just winding you up BPJPosted August 22, 2014 1:49 am
Bill Patrice Jones
@Tark says “Yes. I boxed amateur and pro and knocked out ranking heavyweights.. I’ve also trained hundreds of boxers from sub-novices who had never pulled on a glove when I got them. Some became champions. Some are undefeated pros today and still call me for advice.” Who are these current contenders who call you up Tark? LMFAOPosted August 22, 2014 1:41 am
Bill Patrice Jones
@Tark you f*cking troll. My vision didn’t meet the testing standards of ABA regulation unless I wore outrageously expensive lenses or got laser eye surgery. As for the 1st Froch Groves fight IF the judges had been scoring the fight correctly Froch should have been 6-1 down after 7 with a knockdown which makes him 6 points behind which means that the only realistic way he is going to win is by KO. Still waiting on your boxing credentials?? F*cking sad delusional twat who sits in his basement and actually PRETENDS to have been a successful pro boxer and trainer. You NEVER boxed amateur you NEVER competed amateur. You NEVER dreamt of boxing pro and you NEVER trained anyone. I would bet my apartment and my car that you NEVER so much as walked into a boxing gymnasium or so much as spoke with people involved in boxing. The only reason you spout that crap is a way of defending your reliability when it comes to the HW division and the waaay out of proportion fanboy crap you come out with about it. I was considered by BoxNews24 and Boxing Monthly two publications in the UK to be the Klitschko Brothers biggest supporter in the U.K. But you’re just a fanboy who looks at results and the past with skewed logic. Like I said Tark, I think the Stiverne camp could really use you for a bit of tweaking. Your mum can pack your lunchbox and you can travel out there to work in campPosted August 22, 2014 1:34 am
Briggs that is.Posted August 22, 2014 1:13 am
Jonathon Banks could kick his ass.Posted August 22, 2014 1:12 am
I want to see Wlad TKO Pulev then go on and spank Chisora, and then go on and KO Birdlegs. He can do this. Then whatcha gonna say, that he fought nobodies. Briggs is not involved in the Wlad itinerary. But Wlad could kick his asss also.Posted August 22, 2014 12:55 am
Vald is going to win this one.Posted August 21, 2014 11:00 pm
“Besides that, if someone turns their head on what would be a legal strike if they acted according to the rules you can’t penalise them.”
But IF you get hit low, on the back, or in the back of the head, it’s not a legal blow. If a headbutt is accidental it’s still NOT legal contact. If there’s a cut that eventually stops the fight you still go to the scorecards like Ward-Kessler.
If you’re down from illegal contact, accidental or deliberate, you still get time to recover… Khan deliberately held Judah’s head down and smashed him below the belt… the referee saw the head hold down and not the low blow. He was behind Judah. But because of the holding and hitting infraction, Zab should have been given time to recover — he was counted out.. It’s on youtube and easy to see.Posted August 21, 2014 10:41 pm
SREDMOND HAS AIDS
Alexander is clueless. Proof? Source? You don’t know what Wlad is planning. He will dominate for years to come. Sorry, black dopes, you will have to wait it out.Posted August 21, 2014 10:41 pm
Correction “LL, Ali, Forman etc. Larger than their opponents”, not large than Wlad, except LL and Foreman weighed more at times.Posted August 21, 2014 9:45 pm
Read the rules.
Besides that, if someone turns their head on what would be a legal strike if they acted according to the rules you can’t penalise them.
If I throw a shot at your stomach and you jump in the air and take it in the balls that is hardly my fault.
I don’t see you complaining about Johnson vs green which clearly hit the back of the head as green twisted awayPosted August 21, 2014 9:29 pm
Jim Rich, I have stated this multiple times, but Wlad’s avergae weight has been 238.5lbs for his fights, his opponents have been 238lbs, so your bigger argument is BS, as are many of your other arguments. Fact is Ali, LL, Joe Lewis, Foreman, etc. all were much larger on average than Wlad has been. Ali was much large than most of his LHW and cruiserweight opponents and had an average of 5lbs more than his opponents and up to 40 when he fought against still LHW’s in the 175lbs area. So the size difference is ignorance talking, sorry, just calling it like it is.Posted August 21, 2014 9:27 pm
No. You have to be up and in a position to defend yourself. Not halfway up.Posted August 21, 2014 9:25 pm
“you can direct him to the BBBC rules easily downloaded online which detail the rules for a kd and count in Britain and he insists it is wrong.”
How can the rules be wrong stupid??? The referee was wrong.
Scott was hit behind the ear (not a legit blow) and was carefully watching the referee’s count. He was up before what would have been “10” but in the UK is “out.”
Even the British announcers said Scott was up at first. But you know, announcers like to keep their job so they quickly changed their minds and blamed Scott for misjudging the count.
Any impartial person who watches the video knows Scott was quick counted.Posted August 21, 2014 7:44 pm
brza da originator
Without vitali around that will give credible challengers like wilder stievrne fury etc chances to cement they re names n get some time at the top before they have to tackle a Klitchko . This will be good for wladimirs legacy . All these guys werenot as bad as they looked but the kKlitchko s are victims of their own talentPosted August 21, 2014 7:19 pm
Man.. kubrat pulev probably won’t win. It would be nice to see.Posted August 21, 2014 7:10 pm
Vlad looks a little bit like Vitali Klitschko.Posted August 21, 2014 6:40 pm
I believe Wladimir Klitschko – Kubrat Pulev will be Wladimir’s last fight if he is victorious. God willing Wladimir soon will become a father and I am sure will want to concentrate on his new family. As well so important to Wladimir will be continuing his support of his brother Vitali Klitschko who has a great challenge in front of him having recently become mayor of Kiev. I am sure Wladimir will miss the sport of boxing but there are so many other goals and achievements Wladimir has left to accomplish out of the ring. I would not be surprised if Wladimir announces his retirement post fight. It would be fitting if Wladmir changed his ring entrance song from “Can’t Stop” by the California band Red Hot Chilli Peppers to “Don’t Know What You Got” by the Pennsylvania band Cinderella.Posted August 21, 2014 6:02 pm
TARK never boxed or trained anyone.
I think that is a given. He is just an old troll who likes to claim ridiculous things. Even when there it’s clear evidence to the contrary.
For instance you can direct him to the BBBC rules easily downloaded online which detail the rules for a kd and count in Britain and he insists it is wrong.
Rules in black and white.
Just don’t bother with the delusional lier.Posted August 21, 2014 6:01 pm
Wladimir has had a spectacular career… NOBODY else has dominated for so many years except Joe Louis.. But Louis didn’t do it at age 38.. Louis was on the slide at 30, and badly beaten at 35 and 37 by Charles and Marciano.
Charles fought for a long time at middleweight and light heavyweight… and Marciano was a 184-pound heavyweight.
Louis had a lifestyle like Mike Tyson. That burns you out.
Wladimir looks better than ever at 38. He’s freakin’ amazing. One thing that’s positive – he didn’t badly injure his legs in kickboxing like Vitali did, so he might last even longer, you never know.Posted August 21, 2014 5:38 pm
so wk fought all bums,stiffs and c level fighters. ring magazine rating, peter #8, brock #9, brewster #8, ibragimov #6, thompson #9, chagaev #3, haye #2, thompson #10 povetkin #1 and next on the list pulev #1.and on the 5 curent champions and 7 undefeated fighters.Posted August 21, 2014 5:21 pm
jim rich, it you want to quote a age get it right.sanders was 38 not in his 40’s.Posted August 21, 2014 5:15 pm
Bill Patrice Jones.., “I could never fight in the ABAs because my vision was seriously impaired.”
No wonder you can’t score a fight to save your life.Posted August 21, 2014 5:13 pm
Bill Patrice Jones…. Your vision is STILL impaired. You’re blind as a bat.
You said the only way Froch could win the 1st Groves fight was if he scored a KO..
That was a LIE!!! Unless you’re just too stupid to know better.
If Groves would have made it to the end of the 9th it was already an even fight — and Froch was starting to kick Groves’ butt from ring post to ring post.Posted August 21, 2014 5:11 pm
jim you forgot there were three that didn’t want that rematch. you forgot sredmond.Posted August 21, 2014 5:06 pm
OH and vitali claim to fame is what, his two best fights in the last 7 or 8 years were beating corrie sanders who was in his 40’s overweight over the hill part time golfer still staggered vitali. ANd briggs who um lewis from what i remember ko’d briggs when briggs was in his prime, put briggs down like 5 times, and vitali couldn’t even put briggs down and was taken the distance by a shell of briggs that was far less than what lewis disposed of. Truthfully the klit bros are a class act no question but beating a corpse up isn’t going to add to your legacy, I mean you have to look at there opponents for what they are, a bunch of bums and stiffs C level fighters at best.Posted August 21, 2014 5:04 pm
jim rich, big george foreman at 6’3″ would be little george forman to 6’6″ wladimir klitschko. foreman had all he could handle with ron lyle and little jimmy young. don’t be so confident that george beat klitschko.Posted August 21, 2014 5:03 pm
I find it funny that ANONYMOUS and SREDMOND are posting from the same computer IP address. Hmmm–Posted August 21, 2014 5:03 pm
SREDMOND– Lewis was behind on the cards. The doc stopped the fight. I think even YOU will admit there needed to be a rematch. Every boxing fan I have ever talked with wanted that rematch. Lewis did NOT need to go out on “that’ kind of victory and the world knows that. The funny thing is the only 2 people on the planet that wanted NO REMATCH was Lewis and his mammie. I personally would not want to retire on that fight. AND, you know it.Posted August 21, 2014 5:00 pm
Bill Patrice Jones
I never do this to people online. But I believe every member of the ESB community should hound Tark on these outrageous lies whenever he joins a debate until he admits he’s a fantasist. Spouting all that crap is disrespectful to anyone involved in boxing at any level. I boxed for 3-5 years but could never fight in the ABAs because my vision was seriously impaired. That still upsets me a bit. I f*cking hate people who BS about their boxing past.Posted August 21, 2014 4:55 pm
CHris byrd made vitali quit on his stool as well from what I remember, congrats to chris byrd for taking the belt from vitali. I think people forget that both klit bros lost to good competition when it existed in the heavyweight division. They are good heavyweights but they are also way bigger than most of the people they fight so they almost always physically tower over their opponents. I’d love to see big george foreman give the beat down to wlad, walking thru all wlad shots, wlad would collapse in to a quivering pile of jelly at the relentless pressure big george would have put on him, we all know this. Wlad lacks heart and courage, when the going gets tough his animal instinct says run, as his brain isn’t able to override this fear in him. I really hope someone will step up to the plate and test this guy, wilder maybe can land on him possibly, we will see.Posted August 21, 2014 4:53 pm
Bill Patrice Jones
@ Anonymous. No. Tark has openly claimed over and over that he 1./ Had a stellar amateur career (at an unnamed division and area) 2./ Was a solid professional who had a decent run (again no named division country or promotion) and 3./ Went on to become one of the head trainers at a boxing gym bringing a few of his propects to world title success. He ACTUALLY stands by that.Posted August 21, 2014 4:52 pm
Bill, you make a good point in fact Tark had an academy where he trained Gil Clancy, Angelo Dundee, Cus D’Amato, Robert Garcia, Freddy Roach and Floyd Maywether Sr.. Like the Illuminati they were sworn to secrecy in exchange for Tarks tutelage…In between running his academy and training Mike Tyson, Wlad, Mayweather, Rigondeaux, Lomanchenko, Willy Pep, Ray Robinson, Hagler and Hearns he finds time to post on ESB every 3.5 minutes… Truly “The Worlds Most Interesting Man”Posted August 21, 2014 4:50 pm
@ Bill Patrice. Tark is defo full of it. But I dont believe he claimed that stuff. I think you’re lying. No one would do that on boards like thesePosted August 21, 2014 4:49 pm
Watch Wlad’s Feet in this fight that is going to win the fight by KO.Posted August 21, 2014 4:49 pm
Bill Patrice Jones
I do understand though. lol If someone on ESB saw his pro and amateur records and saw his gym work then the obvious result would be him having his identity and money stolen. Makes sense to me. I mean come on? Who in the world actually bothers to prove what they claim.Posted August 21, 2014 4:47 pm
Bill Patrice Jones
@SRedmond. We don’t always agree but please show some respect. You’re talking to a guy who set the amateur world on fire. A guy whose in ring record speaks for itself. If that weren’t enough you’re trying to argue with someone who took young subjects under his wing and guided them to world titles. You might as well be trying to prove Emanuel Steward wrong on a boxing point.Posted August 21, 2014 4:44 pm
The notion of Tark being a former boxer is more believable it would explain his delusions and bizarre stances…#braindamagePosted August 21, 2014 4:43 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
I agree here. This is a great opportunity for the promising heavyweight talent Anthony Joshua (7-0-0 KO’s 7) to get good experience from sparring with the world’s best heavyweight, the undisputed world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko.
For Wladimir it is very good as well as he then can not only have an young, tall, strong and fast sparring partner but also he gets a closer look of what 24 year young Joshua haves to offer him in the ring. It is not unlikely that Joshua maybe one days ends up to fight Wladimir in a title fight.
I must say that I’m impressed with the 2012 Olympic gold medallist Anthony Joshua’s talent and progress so far. He is a world title champion material I believe but it could be to early to say that now but as long as he fights regularly and against good opponents, I’m sure he can be the next champ.
So far his best fight/victory is against 47 year old Matt Skelton by 2nd round TKO and scheduled to fight Michael Sprott in October 11th later this year.
I hope he will fight some good opponents next year!Posted August 21, 2014 4:43 pm
Tark, PROVE anything? ie that he is an insider? would Freddy Roach or Robert Garcia sit on ESB all day discussing how Algieri is GREAT but Ali is a scrub? That’s vintage Tark he likes being a diaper dependent hereticPosted August 21, 2014 4:42 pm
Tark was a pro boxer and pro trainer??? Is that a wind up?Posted August 21, 2014 4:41 pm
Tark, I don’t have to explain why Marovic and Vitali did not have a similar response to Lewis blows… They are NOT the same person NOR identical twins for that matter LOL!! Why did Solis knee collapse? Charrs face bust open? who knows, who cares its part of the business… It just hurts because it cost Vitali a FAR stronger and more respectable legacy instead he had to cobble together a story with Sam Peter as the principal player! if this were a play it would be a tradgedyPosted August 21, 2014 4:40 pm
Bill Patrice Jones
@Tark you’re calling people on their lies. I heard a rumor that team Stiverne are going to bring you into camp for a month or so to see if you can help him get to the next level. Having trained pro fighters to the world level you could be indispensable. But really Tark you forfeit your right to criticize anyone about lying when you are still actually claiming to have been a successful amateur star who had a solid professional career and went on to train young boxers to world titles!!!!! You’re disrespecting everyone whose ever been actually involved in boxing with that crap. Why can’t you just admit it’s total BS or make my day and prove it?Posted August 21, 2014 4:39 pm
Tark, NO ONE saw that except, you Bears and your fellow ESB nutcases where are all the articles about this infraction? surely with it so obvious there must be writers all over the world supporting your theory??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! See your X files interpretation of the action is NOT something that flys in the boxing community reality is that Vitali could NOT cut it when he starting eating shots from a man that punched harder than him.. His legs held up but his face betrayed him much like your bladder betrays you daily…Posted August 21, 2014 4:37 pm
Sredmond LIES…, “clean blows starting with a single right hand”
If you look at that right hand shot that caused the 1st nick in slo-mo — you’ll see it was not a “clean” shot at all… It was a grazing thumb strike.
No clean blows can be found that opened up those deep gashes on Vitali’s left eye and cheek… That’s a lie on your part… The video record clearly shows that the palm of Lewis’s right glove slashed open those deep cuts.
Answer me this… Lewis his Mavrovic for 12 rounds and never opened a single cut… Lewis never won another fight on cuts in his life.
Vitali never even suffered a threatening cut, before or since the Lewis fight.
Doesn’t it seem strange to you that Vitali, who never lost a fight on cuts in his life, except the Lewis fight, gets all those deep gashes in one (1) round — when Lewis has never been able to do that to anyone else???
You’re not even LOOKING at the video record.Posted August 21, 2014 4:33 pm
After allowing Vitalis wounds to heal Lewis moved on with his life in a VASTLY superior position to Vitali whose career petered out and ended with him beating an unknown like Charr then dodging bullets in the Ukraine.. He is largely forgotten because he bungled his ONE chance at glory against Lewis…Posted August 21, 2014 4:21 pm
Jonathon Banks, Wladimir’s trainer, ““Wladimir is training like a beast. He is the only heavyweight boxer in the world who can box for 15-16 rounds at such a fast pace,””
No other heavyweight Champion ever trained so intensely for a title defense, or used 15 top sparring partners. Especially not at 38 years of age.
Wladimir is only going so hard because Pulev has put together an insane training regimen, in a super serious attempt to rip the title from Klitschko… Pulev even said, “He’s gonna have to knock me out. I’m going for it.”Posted August 21, 2014 4:20 pm
Tark, there is no intelligent comparison between the two… There are reams of articles regarding Holyfield 1 and the historic level of the robbery.. There are NO widespread claims of Lewis “cheating” Klitschko that’s a fantasy that exists Only on these threads and a school of thought you ONLY changed to at the behest of Bears of all people LMAO… AGAIN your proprietary opinion has NO cache amongst sane circles beyond Klit threads on ESB… Vitali lost that fight and his injuries came as a result of clean blows starting with a single right hand that started him on the road to ruin…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!Posted August 21, 2014 4:19 pm
Lewis was awarded a rematch with Holyfield because of the injustice of the first fight…
Vitali was named Lewis’s mandatory challenger because of the injustice of the first fight… Lewis LOUDLY BRAGGED about what he would do to Vitali in their rematch — but when it came time to put up or shut up, he CHICKENSHlTTED AND RETIRED!!!!Posted August 21, 2014 4:10 pm
Vitali only lost to Lewis officially… just as the official decision on Lewis-Holyfield 1 was incorrectly decided.
Not all official results reflect what happened in the fight.
The deep slashes on Vitali’s face were caused by illegal contact and he was winning the fight on ALL SCORECARDS at the end of the fight.
In those cases you’re supposed to go to the scorecards, and rightfully award Vitali a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.Posted August 21, 2014 4:04 pm
All of the damage to Vitali’s face came from some GORGEOUS right hands that Klit fans would LOVE to deem illegal because their hero got his face and his dreams decimated in short order… Tark and the other BUMS on this thread have been trying to get Vitali a pardon from his loss for over 10 years now and he still resides on DEATH ROW with his record having to live off Sam Peter as his BEST night in a boxing ring…Posted August 21, 2014 4:04 pm
If I was Vlad I would be kicking in doors to fight Chisora, and give him the beating of his life for his disrespect.Posted August 21, 2014 3:45 pm
Guess who is the manditory in the WBO for Wlad. Derek Chisora !! Here is where Wlad can spit in Chisora’s face and get even. So, why would Chisora want to jeopardize his number one with Fury?? Maybe his injury is strategic.Posted August 21, 2014 3:36 pm
Anthony Joshua seems to be well gounded and have his head on straight… He doesn’t bluster and brag like Fury and Wilder.
He’s even down playing his Olympic Gold Medal and saying it doesn’t mean more to him than other championships he won as an amateur… He says they were all steps along way to where he is today, and he’s focused on the moment, and that’s the way he’s always been, and that’s how he got to where he is today.
He measures himself against Fury and Chisora and likes what he sees.Posted August 21, 2014 3:31 pm
No, Pulev deserves and demands all of Wlads attention and training. Pulev is a threat and Wlad is not taking him lightly. In this fight Pulev is going to eat a lot of leather, and he is going to be jabbed until his entire spine is in pain. Pulev is a straight up fighter and is easy to hit, and he has a good chin so he will eat a lot of leather. I think he gets TKO’d. Wlad will be hit also, and we Wlad fans hope he is not cut like in the Williamson fight. But Wlad should be able to jab the crap out of Pulev to a victory. Then Wlad goes on to the next manditory of another of his three belts! Briggs is not involved at all. Not at all!!Posted August 21, 2014 3:30 pm
Lol people still crying that Lennox Lewis beat Vitali Klitchko..how long has it been…GET OVER IT!!!!Posted August 21, 2014 3:28 pm
After a few easy fights W.K. isnt taking a chance with Pulev who is no killer,but better then some of his more recent challengers.Posted August 21, 2014 3:27 pm
95% of the damage to Vitali’s face in the Lewis fight came within 1 minute of the 3rd round, and all from illegal contact.
A grazing thumb strike opened a slight nick on Vitali’s left eye… In the clinch that followed soon after, Lewis raked Vitali’s face with the palm of his right glove. That slash opened up 3 deep gashes on Vitali’s eye and cheek, all ripped in the same direction as the palm slash. Lewis also rubbed his head into the the cuts.
Normally a referee would stop the action at that point to have the doctor examine the cuts and inform the judges that the deeply slashed gashes came from illegal contact.
Lou Moret seemed to be in Lewis’s pocket and didn’t do that… Since Vitali was leading on ALL SCORECARDS at the end of the fight he should have been awarded a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.Posted August 21, 2014 3:23 pm
I get the impression he is already training for Briggs.Posted August 21, 2014 3:17 pm
Jim, its because Lewis BEAT Vitali the first time out… Don’t insult Rahman by comparing his first performance where he flattened Klitschko to that of Vitali who looked like he was tied to the front of Lewis Hummer and driven thru 100 yards of barbed wire…Posted August 21, 2014 3:02 pm
my prediction is that anonymous beats boxtradamus by UDPosted August 21, 2014 2:20 pm
Anonymous— Lewis wanted no part of a rematch with Vitali. Can’t figure out why. Lewis wanted Rahman again after HE got flattened. Strangely, Lewis chose to retire . Hmmmmm—–Posted August 21, 2014 2:08 pm
SREDMOND applied to be Wladimirs fan club president a few years back. Then, he found out Wladimir was in fact white, and he pulled his application. Now he wont even give the guy credit. Strange but true.Posted August 21, 2014 2:05 pm
Has TARK mentioned Vitali and his LOSS to Lennox Lewis yet on this thread? Tark would have you believe that Vitali has never lost a fight in his career. He is also angling for a way to put himself in Vitali’s corner, so he can say he trained him. Tark is a fantasist.Posted August 21, 2014 1:51 pm
Help, I spoke and he has locked me in the closet again! His bad picks are all my fault. :(Posted August 21, 2014 1:48 pm
TARK would have you believe he is a famous trainer. He’s wetting his pants as he wants to pretend he had a hand in the metamorphosis of Wlad as a modern great, when in reality at best he was the bucket man who washed his smalls but only after sniffing them or a very, very long time.Posted August 21, 2014 1:47 pm
15 sparring partners sounds like overkill. Even if they throw one guy in with him for a round apiece, sparring 15 rounds in a day like that could leave to over-training.Posted August 21, 2014 1:38 pm
“AGAIN : Boxterdummy !”-Nope. Boxtermoney!!!Posted August 21, 2014 1:37 pm
This is MY first post on this thread SO alot of you need to go take you some BRAINS courses. Wlad WINS this by SYSTEMATIC decision. And I WILL be celebrating another WIN immediately afterwards! !!!!Posted August 21, 2014 1:35 pm
AGAIN : Boxterdummy !Posted August 21, 2014 12:45 pm
Somebody wake me up when the ‘fight’ (loose term) is over please …….Posted August 21, 2014 12:42 pm
MrSnow, AGAIN Wlad does have a habit of banging out sparring partners like Tony Thompson and Pianeta or was it Wach? Jus sayin man don’t get so angry, I fully expect Wlads reign during this terrible ERA of HW boxing to continue unabated for awhile longerPosted August 21, 2014 12:38 pm
Wlad looked pretty china chined agains sanders, its just the lack of quality opposition that has made Wlad a decent good heavyweight appear to many to be more than he is. Against prime competition, if there was any Wlad would be exposed for the lazy jab right hand that he is. Wlad is flustered even cowardly in the face of adversity as he has shown several times before. People were saying Tyson was the best bum slayer of all time. Wlad is kind a good and grabbing and holding and jabbing on bums for a win, not to exciting. Tyson Ko’s wlad if they met when tyson won the title. Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Foreman, Holmes, Ali, well I could go on and on but they all take Wlad in their primes. TO bad the comepetition sucks, You can’t fight stiffs and bums and go down as the greatest heavyweight ever, I mean the division is the most lackluster ever, not really Wlad fault but we already seen what happens when Wlad is tested, he cracks liek humpty dumpty falling off a wall. Ty for the great fight sanders u over the hill golfer part time boxer still kicked wlad ars, that was so awesome.Posted August 21, 2014 12:38 pm
Looks like Anon just exposed Boxtradumas.
picks. As far as Herron I already laid down the verbal assault on him that night on the show and he don’t want no more of me. Not only am I beast but I am also the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 21, 2014 12:32 pm
MrSnow1961: You have no idea what you are talking about. If “I” have ever been wrong it was merely my Jester trying to FOOL you among others. I am perfect and so are my INCREDIBLEPosted August 21, 2014 12:31 pm
Vlad by one-sided UD. But Pulev is a good heavyweight, just by far not as good as Vlad. After this fight, Vlad should go for Wilder/Stiverne, and Pulev should go for the winner of Fury-Chisora 2.Posted August 21, 2014 12:13 pm
“Time for Pulev to SMASH the China chin ending Wlad’s reign of boring terror.”
That’s a hell of a ‘china chin,’ considering Wlad hasn’t been dropped in 10 years. You know NOTHING about boxing and Anonymous proved it by posting your clueless wrong predictions. Joey Herron owned your ass on air. Surprised you have the balls to even show your face here after that beat down.Posted August 21, 2014 12:08 pm
funny how the butt hurt SRACEMOND can’t help to chime in on a fight that deals with 2 white HW. the lowlife comes here just to make a smart ass comment about Wlad, when Wlad has never ducked anyone. now he will go on over to any random Gayweather thread and defend his cherry picking black hero and claim no one is worthy of fighting the little monkey while spouting off random PPV numbers and other usless information. Your brothers lost the most prestigious divison in boxing, get the fk over it.Posted August 21, 2014 12:04 pm
Um this could be the um fight of the century? Go polvolo or whatever his name is. What network is this going be on and when.Posted August 21, 2014 11:47 am
Pulev seems to be in the best shape of his life.
With all the fights that don’t happen, it is amazing that a potentially great heavyweight fight is almost here.
Cobra!!Posted August 21, 2014 11:33 am
Floydy numb nuts
Vlad the valiant. P4P # 1. Nice guy who respects women and old interviewers.Posted August 21, 2014 10:39 am
Racist Ron Blowtar
The White Man wins in this one !! I am the greatest fight prophet there ever is.Posted August 21, 2014 10:35 am
Wlad takes this in my opinion, you are judging Pulev on mediocre competition, I have no idea what gives people the idea that he can beat Wlad? anyway the best news here I can see is that Anthony Joshua gets to spar with the world champion, provided he does not have a glass jaw I can see Joshua doing really well.Posted August 21, 2014 10:20 am
Wlad has 15 sparring partners!! That means he now has 15 opponents to fight AFTER Pulev! Great news for HW boxing LOLPosted August 21, 2014 10:07 am
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I believe Wlad will beat Pulev.Posted August 21, 2014 9:53 am
England out of World Cup again
This time Boxtradamus is right . Pulev will badly beat Wlady ……..Posted August 21, 2014 9:46 am
To all those that criticize my AWESOME picks that is simply called JEALOUSY. You will all see once again how great I am once this fight happens. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 21, 2014 9:23 am
Wlad can jab all night long if he wants too. His jab is faster and way way stronger. It won’t be pretty, but he can if he wants. Wlad won’t lose this or any of the next 10 or so fights.Posted August 21, 2014 9:14 am
Boxterdummy !Posted August 21, 2014 8:56 am
Go Pulev!Posted August 21, 2014 8:27 am
Does anyone actually think Pulev will win?? I just cant see how he could..Wladamir is going to destroy himPosted August 21, 2014 7:51 am
Wlad is making 15 heads ache. Pulev will be number 16.Posted August 21, 2014 7:36 am
Go choke on a fat dank boxtraPosted August 21, 2014 7:32 am
“YAWN. . .Posted August 21, 2014 7:30 am
Only one wrong prediction Boxtra?? Then what happened to these?
Time for Pulev to SMASH the China chin ending Wlad’s reign of boring terror. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 21, 2014 7:15 am