I would agree with that…LOL.Posted June 27, 2014 4:41 pm
Q-tips up his nose that’s all you guys can come up with…Cotto was crying like baby holding his son in the dressing room after that defeat on the big stage. I’m sure he’d rather have the Q-tips up his nose than the “L” he took that night. Have a nice day.Posted June 27, 2014 4:36 pm
EZ E says.., “TARK Trying to be objective, I don’t doubt that Murray has talent but.. I believe he’s getting too much love for losing to Martinez.”
True… He’s not that good… He caught Martinez at the right time and beat him.
Anonymous says.., “WTF does Q-tips up his nose have to do with it?”
Cotto’s masterful jabs + Floyd’s nose = Q-Tips up the nose.
Follow the dots boy… and use your brain to put 2 + 2 together.Posted June 23, 2014 3:17 pm
This Jeff Sorby is the Brit Basher off boxing 24, who writes under the name Scott Gilfoid he’s a right C unt.Posted June 23, 2014 11:56 am
a total joke.Posted June 22, 2014 10:35 am
ANONYMOUS/GRAEME The reports coming in say that Murray won clearly but didn’t convince, just like he failed to do in his previous two fights, also vs C/C- opposition, as I already pointed out. One sub-par performance I can understand but THREE stinkers in a row?? hmmm… Doesn’t give his “He will beat Cotto” supporters much to FACTUALLY talk about, I’d dare say. Not trying to diss Murray, just as before, I’m trying to be as objective as possible.Posted June 21, 2014 6:20 pm
Phoop Phoop–Take yourself to Big Bear and tell tell GGG that you want to spare with him so you can beat his phoney a??He will be there this month.Posted June 21, 2014 5:52 pm
just another plastic belt joke fight.Posted June 21, 2014 5:47 pm
Awful fight. He could put a glass eye to sleep watching himPosted June 21, 2014 5:28 pm
@JAMES WALTON Tragic? I imagine that Murray is blowing this Bursak guy out because I don’t expect Marty to endanger his market until it’s economically worth the risk. Not that I blame him.Posted June 21, 2014 5:12 pm
wtf is this fight ,ref is useless ,too much holding ,murray just a basic fight ,Posted June 21, 2014 5:11 pm
Going into round 5 Murray V Bursak this is tragicPosted June 21, 2014 4:46 pm
Just so you know
Cheers anonymous. Just so you know I don’t think that there’s any chance of the fight actually happening but as the thread is about Murray speculating about the fight happening I thought I would speculate on what might happen if the fight actually did.Posted June 21, 2014 4:11 pm
Murray is a bumPosted June 21, 2014 4:06 pm
I am British but i’m totally not a big Martin Murray fan i also didn’t say Martin would win but it would turn out to be a far tougher fight than the Sergio fight he has all the physical advantages as well as boxing tight and not giving away a huge target if a smaller fighter with Murrays style was fighting Cotto then i would think it was an easier fight but with martins size and strength i believe it would turn out to be a pretty tough fight.Posted June 21, 2014 3:53 pm
@Just So You Know, Just wanted YOU to know that my previous SPOT ON comment is for you TOO!!Posted June 21, 2014 3:46 pm
Graeme No offense but you’re obviously a Brit. You are very quick to point out what you consider Marty’s ‘pluses’ and totally refuse to see his negative minuses. Look man, when his BEST fight is one he LOST then you gotta come up with something better than that. Cotto will be always a step ahead while out-boppin him along the way. Marty boy will prove to be a tough hombre but will fall short, Cotto takes a UD, but the fight won’t happen. Won’t generate enough buck$. Even Andy Lee would bring in more bacon, and even that aint sayin much for Murray. Hey, maybe MURRAY vs LEE in London or Ireland would be a $$$ fight the Brits would buy. Andy vs Marty, make it happen!Posted June 21, 2014 3:42 pm
Just so you know
Graeme, spot on. Cotto is technically the superior but he would find it far harder to hit Murray clean than Martinez. The tight defense together with size and strength would make it very difficult for Cotto. The shell defense works well for Murray.Posted June 21, 2014 3:33 pm
hope the frogs judge better than the argies.Posted June 21, 2014 3:11 pm
Murray would give Cotto major problems tight defence, jab, size and punch resistance would lead to a very close fight i believe cotto would struggle to hurt murray with the shell defense murray uses height and reach would also be on murrays side.Posted June 21, 2014 3:05 pm
Let’s see how Murray does against another top tier Middle, not this Bursak Who? guy. I can understand him trying to talk himself into a prime fight against Cotto but nobody will take him serious enough to by into it. Until then he’s only wasting his timePosted June 21, 2014 1:27 pm
Again it’s plain to see Cotto has no chance in the MW division. Murray and everyone in the top 10 would beat him. GGG would hospitalize him. I hear Lee is seriously being considered, so I guess Manny Stewards prediction Lee would be the MW champ will come true after all.Posted June 21, 2014 12:53 pm
Allow me to add that I spoke again to MCP exec and he firmly states that Canelo IS on Cotto’s short list of possible opponents. Another Cotto insider said that if Canelo beats Lara the fight later this year, in November, or next year, with both having one fight before so. The MCP team member stated the Cotto honestly believes that he can defeat Canelo and Roach is all for the fight happening. They expect the negotiations to be just as tough as the fight itself, especially with Roach in the mist of them. At a fight card here on Thursday there were a few facts/rumors & speculations in reference to Cotto/Canelo. One being a possible catch weight of 155-157Lbs. Which sounds pretty much logical for obvious reasons, anyway you look at it. Anyway, nothing concrete, just what’s going around. Of course, anything can happen since Cotto has no exclusive promotional ties. Well see how much of this actually comes about’. Peace!Posted June 21, 2014 12:53 pm
TARK Trying to be objective, I don’t doubt that Murray has talent but.. I believe he’s getting too much love for losing to Martinez. I reviewed that fight and if you study it well you’ll see that Martinez’ footwork (or lack of) was basically the same in the Cotto fight. Sergio was moving/slipping around a bit, often getting caught by a lesser skilled, slower at hand and foot opponent than Cotto. In the Cotto fight Martinez had a few rounds with his usual mobility (or the same as in the Murray fight) and still was getting roughed up and beaten. Maybe some have seen enough of Murray and studied his fights & record well enough to believe he blows out Cotto, as if Cotto has a snowball’s chance. They seem convinced. I just don’t see it. Looking back, I don’t believe the Martinez that outpointed Murray would’ve beaten the same Cotto he faced a couple of weeks ago. Have you seen the fights/opposition Murray has faced since the Martinez fight? I could be wrong but… to outright say that Murray blows out Cotto basically because of his size advantage seems stretching things a bit. We’re talking about Murray, a still unproven fighter at the elite level. Peace!Posted June 21, 2014 12:13 pm
Martin Murray: “I know I can definitely beat Miguel Cotto. Just don’t tell Golovkin I’m in town.”Posted June 21, 2014 11:15 am
@ Cheese Cake In New York – BRILLIANT……Posted June 21, 2014 10:58 am
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
I’d love Murray to get a fight with Quillin, KF – Quillin’s faced lesser opposition yet has a title and higher ranking. I don’t think MM is the best at his weight or in Cotto’s class for example but do think Cotto would lose to a top 5 MW just because of the size difference.
Murray vs Macklin or Lee would make sense for his next fight, Sturm, Soliman or Geale would make sense too. He needs to sort his visa problems too.Posted June 21, 2014 8:52 am
Cotto V Alvarez is next I think unless Mayweather wants to give Cotto another bug pay day that is. Reality is that Cotto is a A star fighter and Murray cant match his pulling power so doesnt have a chance in hell in landing this fight.Posted June 21, 2014 8:18 am
Huge huge size difference between Murray and Cotto. This would be like Haye Vrs Valuev down at the middleweight limit!Posted June 21, 2014 8:16 am
Cheese Cake In New York
This happened to an Englishman in France who was totally drunk.
Hey Tark, Floyd whooped Cotto a$$ that’s what happen. Stevie Wonder could have seen that, WTF does Q-tips up his nose have to do with it? It’s boxing stupid not ballet.Posted June 21, 2014 5:59 am
Quillin and Murray would match up nicely Hamster . And it would also provide Martin with a real opportunity to win a belt.
I can see Murray spending most of the time chasing Peter around with his hands held high , this is a very winnable for MM .Posted June 21, 2014 5:32 am
Martin Murray is sewage in human formPosted June 21, 2014 4:28 am
Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster
This is what’s wrong with boxing – title contenders are chosen for how much money they’ll make the US TV networks, not whether they earned a title shot. This is why people from other countries don’t trust the governing bodies. The WBC should just disband and their titles should be called the PPV Championship.
For the record, Murray isn’t the best MW out there but he’s had a raw deal with judges. Ignoring inflated fighters in the rankings, he’s a top 5 MW and would likely beat Cotto (as great as he is, Cotto isn’t big enough for MW, Sergio was shot to pieces). Murray should concentrate on a fight he can actually make after this stay busy fight (nice of the writer to deliberately ignore that detail btw). Geale, Sturm or Soliman are fights he could make and would probably win. GGG would beat him but probably has bigger fish to fry, paper champ Quillin isn’t worth talking about until he fights someone live.Posted June 21, 2014 4:18 am
CHI-TOWN says… “@Tark You continually underestimate and bash Cotto, you’ve done it for years. Never a word about him being a credit to boxing.”
You haven’t been reading my posts.. I called Cotto an ATG 4-Division World Champion and always said he had one of the best jabs ever – smooth and deadly. I’ve often noted his amazing drawing power.
I’ve often noted how Cotto timed Floyd and stuck that cool jab up his nose… How Cotto forced Roger to break out the King Sized Q-Tips, load them with coagulants, and shove them up Floyd’s nose to stem the bleeding. I said Cotto and Roach made a Hell of a good matchup and I was happy for Cotto. I predicted Cotto would beat the crap out of MargaCheato, and KO and retire the filthy cheating bastard.. Cotto did a very good job of that.
I’ve given Cotto a Hell of a lot of credit over the years and he deserves it… I’ve criticized him a few times, maybe too much… I do that to everybody… There are no perfect fighters out there.Posted June 21, 2014 4:18 am
Mute or moot point? LMFBO!Posted June 21, 2014 3:53 am
All this site does is put British fighters in a bad light! Murray is one of the nicest people in boxing with incredible humility. All this about another Brit fighter saying this and that. Let’s face it American media has not brainwashed its people before via propaganda and lies, an from the the outside in they are the so called tards for listening and being dumb. I’m Irish and I’d be the last to stick up for a Brit, but I’ve got to call it for how it is.Posted June 21, 2014 3:35 am
Martin Murray needs to create another opportunity for himself .
Cotto is an established prize fighter fighting Murray adds nothing to his career at all .Posted June 21, 2014 1:41 am
Would like to see Murray against Golovkin. Cotto hurt Martinez badly multiple times with shots to the head. Murray was unable to do this so I’m not sure how he beats Cotto. I also thought Cotto was in over his head against Martinez. Martinez has stated multiple times that it was the shot to the head that hurt him and the following shots kept him from recovering. Murray does have some nice technique, but I just don’t think he can beat Cotto.Posted June 21, 2014 1:31 am
Someone taking peej name again. Children surelyPosted June 21, 2014 12:08 am
Ha ha Murray better than any American fighter pat. idiotPosted June 21, 2014 12:07 am
me too.Posted June 20, 2014 10:59 pm
Murray beat Martinez and is better than any Americ-unt fighter ever. FACT.Posted June 20, 2014 9:55 pm
Cotto shook up Martinez, not the middleweight division.
Good fight would be triple G vs Canleo but Canelo would not take that fight to save his miserably life.Posted June 20, 2014 9:32 pm
Tark you mean Canelo is a natural Light heavy weight who drains down to fight at 154. then goes back to 170 on fight night and the crap about the one got his but whupped by a 148 pound Mayweather. Canelo is another ODH punk who fights mall guys 2 division below his natural weight because he would get his butt whupped if attempted to fight in his natural weight division.Posted June 20, 2014 9:31 pm
Golovkin needs to get his marketability up and he’s not worthy of a Mayweather shot, Cotto took all his chips off the table.. Floyd can become lineal against A HOFER instead of a guy looking for his first significant win at 160Posted June 20, 2014 9:27 pm
Thanks for making my point. GGG called out a Welter and wanted him to blow up to 154lb. GGG can’t make 154lb or he would of fought Lara but ducked that challenge too. GGG called many names that were injured or scheduled to fight. That’s what we call smoke and mirrors. When he was directly challenged by numerous quality fighters, all we heard were crickets and all we saw was spinifex rolling across the GGG camp. FRAUD!!!! Geale will prove me right.Posted June 20, 2014 9:20 pm
GGG called out floyd at 154, he is the so called p4p king so I would say he wanted a real challengePosted June 20, 2014 9:16 pm
Now if GGG didn’t run from the Martinez challenge and actually took on the Middleweight champ, he could be the undisputed Middle champ. Unfortunately and to the embarrassment of his family he declined any real challenges while continuing to fight blown up Welters and Jnr Middles. He would take on injured and ring rusty middles that had previously been damaged goods by ‘real’ Middle champs who weren’t afraid to put it on the line. Now he is backed into a corner and will be exposed by the under rated Geale. The hype train is coming to a stop and it will be an abrupt one. The IQ deficient will need another band wagon to jump on shortly. Choooooooo!!! putt putt splutter Choooooooooo!!!Posted June 20, 2014 9:11 pm
LOL UK fighters are always talking s***.Posted June 20, 2014 9:06 pm
You couldn’t beat Sturm and you couldn’t beat an injured Martinez. How about you fight your way into another title shot instead of doing what your countrymen do best, talk their way into fights unproven and then get their butts kicked over and over.Posted June 20, 2014 9:03 pm
No you can’tPosted June 20, 2014 8:52 pm
Martin beat somebody half decent first. You couldnt even beat Sturm. Not in Cotto’s league far too one paced and doesnt leave it all in the ringPosted June 20, 2014 8:47 pm
@Tark You continually underestimate and bash Cotto, you’ve done it for years. Never a word about him being a credit to boxing, only arrogant and pretentious trash. It’s quite clear that he’s on your sht list. A humble guy that never spews trash, jumps on ropes nor belittles his opponents, a true gentleman. Your pompous demeanor against Puerto Ricans (may I add that I’m not a Latino, but proudly married to one) has become progressively evident in the last couple of years, shameful. Allow me to suggest that you call a truce in your hypocritical war with Boxtradumas and JOIN him ’cause you sound more like him everyday. There lies the problem, you’re both the same. CHI-TOWN !!Posted June 20, 2014 8:42 pm
If Canelo elects to fight GGG in a middleweight unification fight??? … I seriously doubt he’ll go for that fght, but he’s get knocked stiff if he tries it.
A GGG promoter has to put up some serious money, and possibly it’ll happenPosted June 20, 2014 8:09 pm
@ Titopa.., You didn’t watch Trout’s fights with Cotto and Canelo… Trout was too big, tall, strong, fast, slick, and skilled for Cotto, beating him 118-110 — but not slick, fast, or hard punching enough to beat Canelo, losing unanimously.
Canelo would beat the crap out of Cotto because he’s a natural middleweight… He wouldn’t be weight drained like he was for his last couple fights — especially the Floyd fight where he had to weigh 152 and looked near death at the weigh-in… He had more sense for the Angulo fight and gladly paid the major fine.
After all… Floyd paid 600,000 dollars to stay at 146 rather than go to 144 for Marquez… Canelo finally took a lesson from that.
The only reason Cotto beat Martinez is because Sergio’s a flimsy kneed 39-year-old human wreck… Cotto got Martinez at the right time… after he was already knocked down twice and beaten at least 115-111 by the unknown Murray — and doctors performed more surgeries on his gimpy knees, completely destroying them, after that lousy showing.Posted June 20, 2014 8:01 pm
“. . . a man clearly not worthy of being mentioned as a 154lb title contender”. IMO, that unworthy fighter was just a single round away from turning Lara into a pile of overrated never-was. Canelo will finish that job with relative ease. bottomline, there isn’t a SINGLE thing that Lara can do to stop Canelo from doing what he plans to do, which is to engage Lara in sustained exchanges and not relent in his pursuit. what isN’T going to happen is Lara pressuring Canelo or seriously hurting or buckling him into retreat. afterwards, Canelo will chase Cotto out of primetime boxing and KO Golovkin at 160lbs. nothing complicated about this predictable scenario.Posted June 20, 2014 7:58 pm
I would agree, that’s a reasonable request for Murray. He did win that fight against Martinez in Argentina, that was pure robbery! Have a nice day.Posted June 20, 2014 7:44 pm
I agree that Murray, as deserving as he may be, will probably not get a shot at Cotto. Boxing is a business more now than ever (or possibly evolved into one) and a lot of very good boxers will never get the opportunity to achieve their goals because of the very fact that it is a business….the business of keeping good opponents away from champs who will be beaten by them if given the chance. Simply put, you’re “connected” or not.Posted June 20, 2014 7:07 pm
TARK – “he’ll defend and lose to Canelo”
I disagree. I believe Cotto has the skills to defeat Canelo, IMO, Canelo’s biggest downfall is his lack of experience…since his somewhat ’embarrassing’ loss to Floyd he’s only beaten ONE man, a man clearly not worthy of being mentioned as a 154lb title contender. Canelo is good, but no good enough to out-think and outsmart a crafty guy like Cotto.
I’d still like to see that fight, I by no means think Canelo CAN’T win, I just don’t see it.Posted June 20, 2014 5:50 pm
Just so you know – I agree. Cotto is has the skills to beat Murray, provided he can fight off his front foot as he’s accustomed to, but as you said, Murray’s size won’t let him…I see Cotto trying his best (ala MargaCheato I) to keep the big guy off him.Posted June 20, 2014 5:45 pm
Where is Cotto going to go??? … Back to 154???
To Trout or Lara??? NOPE!!! And he’s not fighting GGG in a million years. If Canelo beats Lara, and that’s very problematic, he’ll defend and lose to Canelo… If Lara beats Canelo he won’t touch Erislandy at any weight.
Without Canelo, he’s going to find some chump challenger like Andy Lee to beat up.
His org will rank the guy he wants to fight and they’ll do it in MSG.Posted June 20, 2014 4:57 pm
Cotto needs to get one last big pay day because the top 5 welterweights, Jr Middleweights and Middleweights will beat him. He beat a worn out Martinez. These young guns will beat him. Cotto will only look to fight the big names.Posted June 20, 2014 4:47 pm
Murray?? Who is Murray?Posted June 20, 2014 4:44 pm
Give it up Martin, you are a DAMN good MW fighter but you bring no $$$ to the table this bouts not happening.. I would not be surprised if Cotto never fought at 160 again..Posted June 20, 2014 4:37 pm
Tomato — You’re right.
Mega fights await Cotto once again. Mayweather again becomes a possibility. GGG looms large. Canelo offers huge live-gate and PPV. Elite fighters mean the real money will come.Posted June 20, 2014 4:24 pm
That’s a mute point for Murry, Cotto isn’t going to fight him.Posted June 20, 2014 4:19 pm
Just so you know
Like I say I’m a big Cotto fan and all things being equal Cotto is by far the superior boxer, but at middleweight I think Murray is too big and strong. Size and strength isn’t everything but Cotto fights far better on the front foot and I could see Murray pushing him back. As for the decision against Murray in Argentina we can agree to disagree, I know Murray slowed down but I reckon he had plenty of rounds in the bank to win.Posted June 20, 2014 4:15 pm
He couldn’t even beat a SHOT Martinez, while Cotto moved up in weight and DOMINATED him. So I don’t understand where he gets his logic from.Posted June 20, 2014 4:11 pm
Murray’s fight in Germany was for a sub-title — not even close to a real world title (despite the fact that I agree with you on the decision). No way was he robbed against Martinez. He won’t be Cotto and would get blown out by KO against GGG. He’s a quality fighter but is not in the league of Cotto or GGG.Posted June 20, 2014 4:07 pm
Just so you know
JE, Murray is new blood he got robbed in Germany and robbed in Argentina. Not sure what fight you watched. Murray is a different proposition to Macklin and Barker who both had major flaws.Posted June 20, 2014 3:53 pm
Just so you know
Agree, Martinez fighting so infrequently led to the status quo lasting longer than it should have. Hopefully now 50-50 fights and unifications can happen. Geale v Golovkin is a good one and if Golovkin can blow him away that will be a massive statement.Posted June 20, 2014 3:50 pm
Interesting how yet another “tough” opponent who was ultimately (and clearly) beaten by an aging and injured Martinez wants a shot again. Of course he wants a shot at big money!! The result would be just as clear the second time. He would fight tough early, fade badly, get smoked in a decision, and everyone would praise his toughness while going down to defeat. Isn’t this the story we’ve learned too well from Murray, Barker and Macklin? Tough guys who can’t win the big ones. Ho hum. Send in new blood.Posted June 20, 2014 3:49 pm
But Cotto’s destruction of Martinez definitely shook up the 160lb division.Posted June 20, 2014 3:36 pm
Just so you know
I’m a massive fan of Cotto but I think Murray would be too big and strong for him. Cotto would not be able to push him back and would be on the back foot the whole fight. Murray isn’t a massive puncher but hits hard enough to grind Cotto down.Posted June 20, 2014 3:35 pm
murray v cotto in the uk would do great.who is this joker talking about hanging around for 2 years to let cotto get beat or retire.murray is a quality operator.Posted June 20, 2014 3:34 pm
Small problem that Minky Martin Murray likely wouldn’t get into the US because of his criminal past. Maybe Murray v Cotto in a leisure centre in St Helens? Ha ha haPosted June 20, 2014 3:34 pm
Cotto’s gonna be getting called out left and right, he’s a SMALL middleweight and I wouldn’t be surprised if he used his star power to make his title defense(s) a 158lb catch-weight. Can’t see him doing all that great against big strong middleweights. Martinez was able to handle himself cause of his movement and athleticism (before his knees betrayed him), Cotto’s far more of a stationary fighter who relies on pure technical ability, something that can be “overpowered” by guys 20-25lbs (naturally) bigger.Posted June 20, 2014 3:33 pm
Allah Allah Shuballah
Allah Allah Shuballah say Murray is wrong. Cotto beat him up yes. Allah Allah Shuballah forecasts this.Posted June 20, 2014 3:27 pm