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Posted October 15, 2014 9:18 am 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (The Lion King of Beat Street)

What “legacy?”

Posted February 17, 2014 3:54 pm 


Perdum – yes, the biggest star who refused rbt while his trainer went on record that he didn’t trust what his strength & conditioning coach was feeding him in his shakes.

Posted February 17, 2014 3:21 am 


Floyd is the biggest start of his generation. How come nobody questions the excuses Arum has made? Floyd has come up with 3, Arum has come up with 10. But yet it is Floyds fault. That is funny.

Posted February 16, 2014 4:42 pm 


mayweayher. top 50 at best.

Posted February 16, 2014 4:23 pm 


His legacy is of a very talented, but risk-averse fighter who avoided the biggest star of his generation-Pac.

Posted February 16, 2014 11:21 am 


Case for unified champions:
A 2 or 3 body unified champion will have to face mandatory defences such as Carl Froch and will mean they will have to box 2 or 3 times a year against the highest available contender and we will go back to the days when champions routinely made 3 or 4 defences a year. This keeps the division and challengers moving and bubbling and relevant instead of treading water like they did with long term once a year defenders such as Joe Calzaghe. once we have unified champions we can focus on hammering the alphabet boys into proper shape to make sure we don’t get bogus ratings for their fighters and we will no longer get the situations where fighters mayweaer and Pacquiao manipulate their positions in the sport to face non-challengers fight after fight such as Ortiz, Khan, Margarito, Clottey, where more able challengers abound. I watched last night and frank buglioni is WBO European super middleweight champion!!! WTF? nowadays if you don’t own a title there must be something wrong with you? We now have multiple European champions!!!! WTF?

Posted February 16, 2014 10:34 am 

Exiled Yank

I’m NOT paying for it… typos kill.

Posted February 16, 2014 9:06 am 

Exiled Yank

FM is proving two things with Khan: he’s terrified of Pacman, and he’s only in it for the money now. If he was fighting AK on showtime for free, I might be a little more forgiving, but this will be a huge PPV event and it’s complete garbage. Khan has no shot, but I’ll be rooting for him. I’m paying for it either. I’ll wait a week. FM proved a lot by fighting and dominating Canelo, and fighters often take a less dangerous fight after a big event like that, but this is crap.

Posted February 16, 2014 9:05 am 


Mikey not Mickey

Posted February 16, 2014 6:26 am 


Mickey – I’m well aware the main guys at middle are avoiding fighting him what I’m suggesting as a possible solution is he puts himself in the position of mandatory at light middle or even Super middle to force the hand of the top guys in those divisions to fight him. If he wants to test himself against the best surely he can do that. I actually think he will handily beat most in those divisions but he can’t just say he’ll fight anyone and do nothing about it.

Posted February 16, 2014 6:10 am 


Craig, its well known that Golovkin is the most avoided boxer in the world, so how’s he’s supposed to fight top quality opposition if they refuse to fight him dumbazz?

Posted February 15, 2014 9:59 pm 


Captain Jack – it’s one thing calling out Mayweather in a post fight interview and declaring he’ll fight anyone from 154 to 168 as GGG, or his promotor, has done but another thing entirely actually doing it. It would be easy for a guy as active as GGG to have a couple of wins at light middle and force a mandatory with Mayweather but instead he’ll fight Adama who is ranked by no one.

Posted February 15, 2014 9:07 pm 


Good to speak to someone with a bit of sense Craig. Totally agree these politics are screwing alot of good fight matchups. Lets say no Cold War. PAC ob fights may and so would Bradley. Then you have Thurman to fight all three. Prov v Garcia and or mattysse. All great fights lets hope something happens and we get some of those at the end of the year or early next

Posted February 15, 2014 8:39 pm 

Captain Jack Sparrow


Floyd holds the 154 belts.

GGG has offered to fight him several times, which means GGG will have to move down in weight to beat up Floyd, which he is happy to do.

But Floyd being the biggest con artist I’ve EVER seen in boxing will never fight him.

But by all means keep being a Floyd knob-jockey, there’s plenty of them here.

Posted February 15, 2014 7:54 pm 


Fair play. There isn’t an abundance of guys who can give him a challenge unfortunately and the guys who should be fighting him such as Pacquiao and Bradley are frozen out by politics. I personally think the suggestion of him fighting GGG is ridiculous though as it isn’t as simple as moving up one weight class he already has moved up five and light middle is already a weight he doesn’t manage to hit the limit of.

Posted February 15, 2014 7:19 pm 


That was no bashing. Marquez gained 17 pound and stood in front of him. PAC already had beaten Marquez also. No clottey isn’t a name may should have fought, I just put up 2 he didn’t. I like that he fought canelo. Sad canelo is years from his prime but may deserves all credit for the whipping he gave him. Rios well yes not a great fighter but has beaten everyone he had faced, accept PAC cause he has stopped Alvarado. I just wish floyd would have a challenge, we haven’t seen the best of him till he does.

Posted February 15, 2014 6:44 pm 


Clottey, Margarito, Rios… It’s funny how Pacqiao looks so good against guys with little or no lateral movement. Is Clottey a name you think Mayweather honestly should have fought? Let’s face it Mayweather fought Canelo when there is no danger Pacquiao would have gone near and if Pacquiao bashed up Cotto for Mayweather what happened when Mayweather returned the favour with Marquez?

Posted February 15, 2014 6:23 pm 


Floyd ducked margo and admitted it. He never fought clottey. Floyds most dangerous fight was cotto who PAC bashed for him. If you read what boxtra wrote weight means nothing. Hopkins did it against dela and stopped him and is older of coarse. Stop using weight as an excuse. All fighters fight drained at some stage and you don’t see them complaining about it

Posted February 15, 2014 5:39 pm 


Captain Jack Sparrow – if Mayweather has cherry picked his opponents it seems than Pacquiao has cherry picked the same guys does it not? And Mayweather schooled the same guy that left Pacquiao with his face in the canvas. Do you consider Rios to be a tougher opponent than Canelo? Cotto at light middle instead of 145lbs? De la Hoya at light middle instead of welter?

Posted February 15, 2014 4:57 pm 


1. ray robinson 2.leonard 3.pretty boy floyd

Posted February 15, 2014 2:54 pm 


ray robinson would have gone through this lot today inside of a year. period.

Posted February 15, 2014 2:49 pm 


pac got knock the fout the factswhite boys the facts got knocked out by the same person Floyd dominated

Posted February 15, 2014 2:30 pm 

Captain Jack Sparrow

What legacy? Floyd’s career is as bogus as his choice of cherry picked opponents.

Posted February 15, 2014 11:44 am 


Floyds legacy is intact.

Posted February 15, 2014 11:36 am 


Ray Ray – Iron Mike was more side to side, bobbing and weaving while executing his ferocious attack,only thing similiar with Pac is how quickly they wanted to end matters.

Posted February 15, 2014 11:34 am 


And the same for De la Hoya regarding Mayweather fighting him at light middle and Pacquiao making him come in at a weight he hadn’t made in years and a weight he couldn’t make and still be effective.

Posted February 15, 2014 11:29 am 


And what great boxers has Pacquiao fought that Mayweather hasn’t? Marquez, Mosely, Cotto, De la Hoya, Hatton, what makes Pacquiao great for fighting these same guys that Mayweather has? Also Mayweather fought Cotto at light middle not a weight drained 145lbs.

Posted February 15, 2014 11:23 am 


Boxing is hit and not get hit, it’s also combinations. Not one punch at a time, so ali and may are nothing a like, ray ray

Posted February 15, 2014 6:17 am 


And as I wrote after I think he meant in pure domination. And if you think PAC fought rios and didn’t box maybe this cotton stuff you better give to your students and not shelve it!

Posted February 15, 2014 6:14 am 


I never said that was my opinion. Re read or can’t you?

Posted February 15, 2014 6:13 am 


As i said your entitled to an opinion but that’s all you will ever have. Ill take it from greats in the sport, I assume you are not one so until you win a world title or 8 in 8 divisions ill listen to the guys that have. You keep fighting the good fight but ray ray. Your a champ :)

Posted February 15, 2014 6:12 am 

Ray Ray

George might have been drunker than u? If ur reason 4 calling out PAC closest 2 Ali 4 fighting the best while he’s in the ring with Rios than u need 2 lay off the sauce….

Posted February 15, 2014 6:10 am 

Ray Ray

Only 1 young forum no it all on here and it ain’t me. The 12 yr olds I run @ the OxyContin have better boxing knowledge of u, more than likely there also better than u. U stick 2 writing and losing sleep over a guy u don’t like. And u stick 2 following punches instead of guys who have perfected the sweet science. Is this sport called punching? Fighting? Or boxing?

Posted February 15, 2014 6:08 am 

Ray Ray

U and apparently foreman said PAC was like Ali. I’m only irrelevant because I speak the truth. PAC is more like Tyson….no jab, in and out. Put it 2 the other posters here? Who’s more like who? And u keep mentioning how good PAC looked against Rios? Man I hope u aren’t putting all ur hopes on that performance. My 3yr old moves more than Rios. He moves like he’s in cement boots, lucky 4 him his head is also made of cement.

Posted February 15, 2014 6:04 am 


Mayweather isn’t Alis as s hole. He not even close. So don’t compare may to Ali. And I never made that statement an all time great did so don’t try make it come out of my mouth. I think it was meant as pure domination. And if you think PAC didn’t have footwork against rios, I should never read what you write anymore cause it would make me feel stupid, so re think before you say he has no footwork.

Posted February 15, 2014 5:55 am 


Ray ray your now irrelivent. No one is saying he was Ali. He faced the greatest ever your opinion doesn’t even gain less than a percent compared to foreman. Nice try but

Posted February 15, 2014 5:51 am 

Ray Ray

Auzbox- ha ha ha good 1. What r the motives 4 Foreman saying that? Mayb it makes him look better? PAC close 2 Ali? Ha ha ha nowhere near it buddy. Ali had a jab and foot work, manny has zero jab and only no’s in and out movement not side 2 side. I’m getting worried about u? Ur spending way 2 much time writing about a guy u don’t like. He’s in all the PAC die hards fans head more than an opponent he’s facing. As good as Ali was and PAC is those 2 r very diff kind of fighters….hell Ali is more like Floyd than PAC? A young Ali anyway. The mover the dancer with fast hands. The ability 2 make guys miss and pay? That ain’t PAC. Wasn’t til Ali was older and couldn’t move as well when he became a battling type champ….let me guess….Foreman was ring side commentating the PAC Rios (punching bag) fight? G wonder who was signing the checks? Rrrrr Toprank (Arum)

Posted February 15, 2014 5:48 am 


Manny deserved half in 09 he has happily said that he would take 70/30 now. And if he beats Bradley he is worth 60/40. But your right it doesn’t matter the fight will never happen. I don’t care manny has done all that he can in boxing and hopefully he wins 2 fights this year then we can all argue again

Posted February 15, 2014 5:46 am 

Fight Aficionado

What’s up with the douchebag getup in the pic? Don’t tell me Floyd actually think he looks good. He looks like he raided his grandma’s closet.

Posted February 15, 2014 5:26 am 

poor pacturds

Azzboy the point that you not seeing is Manny will never get 40 mil again never not for one fight and not from anyone else out there. 40 mil is a helluva lot considering Floyd is the bigger draw who is promoting the whole thing Manny don’t deserve half, I know he regrets that sht now I bet he wished he had another chance that’s why the phone lines are open 24/7 stupid nutthugger name one fighter that would turn down that chance?

Posted February 15, 2014 4:58 am 


Khan will get less than 6 mill. Not much of a lottery. He fights poor fighters cause he doesn’t have to pay. Greedy greedy man. But it doesn’t matter his career will have a cloud over it for 50 percent of fans so that’s ok.

Posted February 15, 2014 4:16 am 


Ali retired years ago so he can’t fight the best ever. There was no debt when he was offered 40. He was just paid 35 to fight cotto. PAC was 1 p4p 40 was no where near half you clown

Posted February 15, 2014 4:11 am 


Poor Manny always the bridesmaid never the bride lol. I bet Kahn don’t turn down Floyd like Manny did. Who wouldnt want to win the lottery?

Posted February 15, 2014 4:01 am 

Poor pacturds

Azzbox why would Manny take 40 million to fight Floyd? Hell a few reason one would be he will never get that much fighting anyone else. Two he is 70 million in the whole in taxes 3. Its the most he ever made in one fight in his entire career. 4 its a chance of a lifetime to fight the greatest ever 4, We will never get another chance like it, 5. He is on the decline and his career is about over 6. Who in they right mind would not take a opportunity like it 7. Awe hell you get the picture. Poor pacturd

Posted February 15, 2014 3:57 am 


And your a simpleton and a turd. Why would PAC sign for 40 mill when he just was paid 35, and was 1 p4p. Knowing full well floyd would take home atleast 65. Sorry buddy but PAC was the king and atleast deserved 50/50. Floyd offered cause he knew he wouldn’t take it

Posted February 15, 2014 3:27 am 


Yeh well ray ray I can trump that. Foreman was in with the greatest ever in Ali. And he said watching PAC school rios was the closest thing he has seen to Ali. Only someone who has been in the ring with the greatest ever can say that not forum know it alls. CHECK MATE

Posted February 15, 2014 3:20 am 


PAC gets 800 ppv he is back up there no matter how you cut it. Floyd needs to so 2.2 or he is on the slide. Real men fight p4p ranked guys. SIMPLE

Posted February 15, 2014 3:18 am 

Ray Ray

Ur boy mentioned in Oscar De La Hoya has also said publicly after the Floyd v Mosley fight that he may have just watched the best guy he’s ever seen? It’s not hard 2 find that footage. Do a little homework b4 u go name dropping.

Posted February 15, 2014 3:07 am 

Ray Ray

Georgi-yeah that’s a good 1…..don’t no were u pulled it from? Mayb ur bunghole…it won’t take u long searching on the net and u will find such guys like-ODH, JMM, Mosley, Hatton all of which have been in with both. Also Kostya and 1 guy u mentioned in jones jr…all quoted as answering the question of who they think would win outta PAC v Floyd 2 which all respondered Mayweather…..I think these guys r a little more qualified than u, I’ll go with them.

Posted February 15, 2014 2:53 am 

Poor pacturds

Manny will be ok without fighting Floyd he really don’t need Floyd thats why he tuned down 40 million for the fight in 09. Besides he has Bradley II and Marquez 5 this year in which he will not win both. He will go down a legend who passed up the biggest fight of his life and will have to fight way past his prime because of tax problems and he will be remember for suffering one of the most devastating KO in boxing by Marquez so no biggie he can always be a commentator once he learns better english.

Posted February 15, 2014 2:12 am 


Right now hec dog is greased up and bent over dreaming about Manny….

Posted February 15, 2014 2:01 am 

Poor pacturds

Floyd havent failed any tests retard he is the one who brought up the whole random blood issue if he was dirty why would he do that it would have been all over the news like the other who have been caught? Face it he is on top always have been and Manny is irrelevant and broke. Manny sucks and his fans are ignorant ass clowns and we are sick of hearing he will be back and his ppvs will sore he will Ko Bradley he has produced sht nothing since 09 and talk is cheap and BS runs a marathon. Face it a black man in on top and nothing is stopping that.

Posted February 15, 2014 1:59 am 


“Boxers usually peak at about 31 to 33 — but Floyd might be peaking right now. I’ve never seen him look more ripped or stronger.”

He does look more ripped and stronger than ever. Perhaps there is credence to the rumors that he failed three “A” sample tests over the past two years.

Posted February 15, 2014 1:35 am 


Still waiting on evidence of pacs doping, but as usual just your poor opinion. Hope your nut farm know you have snuck in to use thief PC again.

Posted February 14, 2014 11:52 pm 


Lioness pretty sure this article is about floyd princess. You have PAC on your mind all day and all night, that sort of stuff is creepy

Posted February 14, 2014 11:51 pm 


Four BOGUS CATCHWEIGHT “championships” for the PacROIDED* one! Gotta give The Pharmaceutical One* his props for taking on Bradley…. Bradley is a “mover” at his comfortable weight, so PUNKquiao* will find himself in ALL sorts of trouble……Bradley by decision!!…..thats if the judges dont cheat him out of a win!! DRUGquiao* will not have learned much from fighting Rios, since Rios is SLOTH-like in nature and (once again) naturally DEPLETED & LIGHTER than The CATCH-WEIGHT King* himself! The PACTARDS live vicariously thru their idol, hoping this 108lb turn 147lb ROIDED abnormality can help them feel better about themselves as he* continues to use the last vestige of his NOW clean body – to earn a LAST HUGE payday…..PUNKquiao* has to wait his turn though, he cant arrogantly DEMAND a fight AFTER getting KO’d, then choosing to fight a small punch drunk action figure powered by 2 double A batteries….. This fight should be as good as Froch/Groves…..I got Groves in the rematch – “IF” he trains like theres “no tomorrow”……some good matches indeed…..with NO DRUGS included….cant wait!!

Posted February 14, 2014 11:17 pm 


PE… That was because Cotto has one of the slickest jabs ever… even though he’s very short.. He could reach Floyd but not the taller Trout.. Canelo doesn’t have a well developed jab at all.. It’s fair at best.. He could have a really good jab when he’s 30 if he keeps improving his jab with every camp — and has about 20 fights in that period..

Boxers usually peak at about 31 to 33 — but Floyd might be peaking right now. I’ve never seen him look more ripped or stronger. He’s never been as deft defensively or as accurate with his punches. He takes his time. He rushed just a little against Mosley and Cotto.

But Cotto is just at his peak and Canelo is years away from peaking. But still, Cotto turned down 10 million to fight Canelo. If Cotto upsets an aging Martinez look for him to defend against Canelo.

Posted February 14, 2014 10:45 pm 


Poor pactards: eat you own words, manny smashed cotto, margo and it doesn’t matter about weight, don’t make excuses,pac is that great and would smash them any time any where. simple

Posted February 14, 2014 9:41 pm 


Boxtra…, I was clear that Floyd was probably going to beat Canelo, but NOT clear that Canelo would go with such lousy sparring or come into the fight weight drained … That destroyed a potentially competitive matchup.

Cotto trained his ass off for Floyd—and even MORE SO for Trout… When you’re an ATG fighter like Cotto, and lose a fight, you ALWAYS train harder to get it back in the next fight… And you DON’T take ANY undefeated World Champion lightly.. It was a TITLE SHOT for Cotto, NOT for Trout.. Cotto was only defending his title against Floyd.. Floyd had more incentive because he was going after his 2nd World Title at Super Welterweight Title.

If an ATG loses 2 fights in a row he hits the panic button and starts switching things around like coaches, sparring partners, training routines and all the things that Cotto is doing right now… He’s tired of getting his ass kicked but Martinez doesn’t care… Sergio just wants an easy win for good money and that’s what he sees in Cotto.

Posted February 14, 2014 9:40 pm 

Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

and by the way Floyd has been dominating 170 lbers for 2 straight training camps because SKILLS is more important than weight.

Yes but then why FM asked Canelo who is a b level fighter to drain weight?

Posted February 14, 2014 8:43 pm 

Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather


Well canelo was weight drained, he looked so Frail at the weigh ins and still FM had such a boring showing, when every thing is in FM’s favour he still is so tentitive so not taking it to canelo.

Ppl just find FM so boring that’s all.

Posted February 14, 2014 8:41 pm 


I TOLD you all along TARK that the Trout-Cotto Fight was an ANOMALY. Cotto did not take Trout seriously while Trout rightfully trained for the Biggest Fight of his LIFE. I could see it right away. Cotto looked MUCH worse than he DID vs. Floyd. His Defense even fell WAY off. His retention is POOR. He had a tight Defense vs Floyd but then against Trout he went back to his old form of having an open guard….Learn how to assess performances. Not every Fighter is as consistent as Floyd and even he was a different Fighter when he switched from Roger to Floyd Sr….he was beginning to become a lot more stationary and flat footed with Roger as evidenced in the Mosley and Cotto Fights. Thats why he swiched to Floyd Sr. before he faced Canelo because you can’t be stationary against Bigger guys….NO need to reinvent the wheel. When a guy is Bigger than you its already been discovered that you need to stick and move stick and move. Floyd knows that and Roger wasn’t teaching that SO he made the switch….SO comparing Trout vs a LESSER Cotto to A LRSSER Floyd vs a BETTER Cotto is an ASININE comparison. And even THEN Floyd’s Defense was TWICE as GOOD as Trout’s vs Power shots. A LESSER Cotto landed 150 power shots on Trout while a BETTER Cotto barely landed 75 on a LESSER Floyd. …..To make a long story SHORT the BEST version of Trout is no comparison to the WORST version of Floyd. And that’s why Lara SPANKED him just as I predicted while you GOOFED and took Trout over Lara……..Go take a PERFORMANCE ASSESSING class.

Posted February 14, 2014 8:11 pm 


Golovkin has a Top level guy calling him out and he won’t even open his mouth. He sent his promoter to DO the talking. Lara didn’t challenge your promoter. He challenged YOU.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:54 pm 

te tumbo

TARK, your recollection is accurate. my point is that the only opinion that made any realistic sense was that Canelo was simply not ready for Floyd. no incomplete fighter like Pacquiao* or work-in-progress like Canelo is ever going to get the drop on a still-prime Floyd, whose prime must now be assessed on a fight-by-fight basis. Mayweather is due to decline. the only question is when and v. whom? nonetheless, it doesn’t in any way diminish the manner in which he’s handled, managed, and dominated every challenger thus far and in the case of Canelo (or Pacquiao*) it was predictable.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:52 pm 


Floyd CAN face Golovkin and he would defeat him. While Floyd’s been facing Top level guys Fight after Fight Golovkin would be facing the First Top level guy of his CAREER. And he wouldn’t just be facing A Top level guy he would be facing THE Top level guy. Floyd WINS that by decision. Golovkin won’t be able to catch him….and by the way Floyd has been dominating 170 lbers for 2 straight training camps because SKILLS is more important than weight.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:49 pm 


Floyd doesn’t need any excuses because he’s the GOAT…

Pacquiao doesn’t need to make any excuses because he’s made an average of 65 million dollars per year. over the last 5 years… Too bad he owes more than that in taxes. DAMN, how can that be???

Which is good news for Boxing fans because he has to keep fighting for a few more years to get it all back… However he needs to hire a money manager and a tax accountant.

And if he already has them he needs to fire them — and start interviewing some new people… without taking any advice from Bob Arum.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:47 pm 

Poor pacturds

People make all these excuses why Floyd beat guys. When really he is just that good. Canelo weighed in at 152 lbs and probably ballooned up after so the weight was not a factor more than his skills he couldnt beat Floyd at any weight. Marquez got his ass beat by Floyd and they said he was too small Floyd cant win for loosing. But Manny got KTFO by Marquez he was juiced and he was cheated out the Bradley fight poor retards One is on top and one is one the bottom and nothing is going to change that. Hate all you want ass clowns

Posted February 14, 2014 7:28 pm 


BTW… I also consistently said it wouldn’t be smart for anyone to place beats on May-Canelo until AFTER the weighin. That was the biggest factor I said. How Canelo handled the weight issue.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:19 pm 


Tumbo… 90% of my pre Mayweather-Canelo posts weren’t building up Canelo… It depended on who I was posting against… If they said Floyd was going to KO Canelo I called them idiots and pointed out why the fight was going the distance — since Canelo is probably the best fighter Floyd faced.. If they said Canelo was going to win by KO I scoffed at them, asking when does Canelo KO top fighters??? He doesn’t. So you were only looking for one kind of post. I always said Floyd should be favored and he would win a close decision–up until close to the fight when I said Floyd should be favored by a wider margin—because of the sparring and other problems in Canelo’s camp.

Floyd says Cotto is the best he faced and Trout had no problems at all beating the slats off Cotto… And Trout was aggressive in that fight. All of a sudden when Trout faces Canelo he can’t fight effectively—and he is even 10 times worse trying to fight Lara.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:13 pm 

Liver Shot

Legacy? If he was worried about that he would have fought the best in their prime not at the end of their careers Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosely. Arturo Gatti. He was real quiet when those guy’s where in their prime. How come he didn’t fight Calazo or Berto when they were on top, or a Prime Cotto before Magarito used a foreign object to beat him up? Mayweather is smart and waited them out until they got beat or until they got old. Case and point we are still waiting for Manny Pacquiao. Can’t fault him for being a business man, he’s a great one and he’s a great boxer, too bad we will never know how great he could have been.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:12 pm 


If weight isn’t a factor. And you should be able to box anyone within 20 pounds of your weight according to Boxtra. Then Mayweather should have no problems fighting a guy like Gennady Golovkin — since Middleweight is a mere 13 pounds heavier than welterweight.

And not fight some coward who shrinks from fighting any good punchers or good boxers—such as Amirture Khan.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:01 pm 

te tumbo

if that’s the case, it only bolsters the impression that Canelo did indeed dominate half-a-fighter like Trout.

Posted February 14, 2014 6:55 pm 


Yup. No need to mention it because catchweights aren’t the Factor. SKILLS is the factor. Why didn’t the catchweight work to Oscar’s advantage vs. Hopkins.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:47 pm 


“Canelo trying to anticipate something he’d never faced before and Mayweather calmly anticipating and seamlessly adapting to everything he’s already seen and experienced.”

Not to mention the catchweight which definitely worked to Mayweather’s advantage.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:40 pm 

te tumbo

Tark stopped short of picking Canelo to defeat Mayweather but 90% of his pre-fight posts focused on what a difficult and potentially overwhelming challenge he would pose for Mayweather. conversely, i always opined that the matchup was severely premature and unnecessary. Canelo’s eyes were too big for his gloves and it showed in the actual bout. Canelo trying to anticipate something he’d never faced before and Mayweather calmly anticipating and seamlessly adapting to everything he’s already seen and experienced. Mayweather v. Canelo was never a good matchup for anybody other than those anxious to watch Mayweather experience a severe beating if not loss.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:36 pm 


Canelo was going to get beat no matter WHAT he LOOKED like at the weigh in. Cotto, Ortiz, and Mosely all looked GREAT at the weigh in. Why didn’t TARK pick THEM??? OH he DID say that Ortiz would give Floyd hell but he was wrong there. The PRIME southpaw got SPANKED and exposed SO baf that he didn’t want to Box anymore. He wanted to change to MMA and then he tried to hug and kiss the SHARK as IF that will make a blood thirsty SHARK have mercy on him….Using TARK’s logic I guess he didn’t look GOOD enough at the weigh in.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:27 pm 



pac got knock the fout have you white boys forget he was sleeping
Posted February 14, 2014 4:27 pm

Sorry Sir, But I can’t understand your ignorant little rant. Can you get someone who has more than a third grade education to help you with a re-write. Thank You.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:25 pm 


@Mike Tyson

Look I don’t dispute Floyd the best boxer now. He is, I’m say if PAC blast Bradley face and win easily, he don’t need Marquez. He got Marquez belt aka from Bradley .

Logically that the 2 spot below Floyd Floyd 1 so hopefully PAC in contention as a choice right?
Posted February 14, 2014 4:34 pm

You are correct, but little floyd won’tt fight Pac. He is afraid his -0- may go.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:23 pm 

Mike Tyson

Look I don’t dispute Floyd the best boxer now. He is, I’m say if PAC blast Bradley face and win easily, he don’t need Marquez. He got Marquez belt aka from Bradley .

Logically that the 2 spot below Floyd Floyd 1 so hopefully PAC in contention as a choice right?

Posted February 14, 2014 4:34 pm 

Mike Tyson

So it’s a loss, who cares? Marquez has no belt. Bradley took the belt PAC beat Bradley he get the belt, understand?

Posted February 14, 2014 4:29 pm 

Mike Tyson

teflon, your were crying before the fight PAC will be knock out, then it’s something else.
Bradley got the belt from Marquez he has no belt now. Who need pee drinker now?
The belt is the ranking, and why talk abot seating when MGM only hold 9 k

Posted February 14, 2014 4:24 pm 

Mike Tyson

Also watch the Floyd vs Canelo full fight. Floyd was very accrate in that fight, he very good,
But Canelo head was a few feet in front of Floyd head all night, man they got to that boy head moving on the heavy bag.not standing straight up as a bean stalk. Bend at the knees boy and weave.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:20 pm 


Yeah yeah we are sick of hearing what Pac is going to do when the reality is he hasnt done sht. He hasnt dominated anyone since 09, Not counting punching bag Rios. Manny wasn’t tested against Rios. Marquez KTFO of him so until he shows us something shut the hell up Mike Tyson we are sick of hearing it just like the Rios fight sold 80 percent of the tickets in the first week but the ppvs numbers was less than 450,000 ppz dont blow smoke up the peoples ass. Manny has something to prove people dont just give you nthing and they dont give a dam about the past only who you beating today. Bradley is one tough SOB Mannys hands will be full but dont talk about be about it…

Posted February 14, 2014 4:19 pm 


Again who has lara fought nothing but nobodies and the only good win for trout has over Cotto. The 154 division simply not is as exciting and as big as the welters they have way more stars and a lot more money is to be gained fighting there.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:13 pm 

Mike Tyson

Did watch the PAC vs rio full fight, also Bradley prov, and Marquez .
Bradley make a mistake, he allow PAC back into the game.

PAC will easily win this fight, his foot work is back, his hand speed is back but best his rhythm back that throwing what he thinks in real time,
He also mixing it up very well. He was under pressure on performing and not being knock out he has no fear of Bradley weak punches watch PAC tune up Bradley face all night from all angles form in and out of the pocket, talking combination.

I taught Bradley was suppose to have improve in boxing nope, PAC lighter and has mean snap in real time, and watch him get even better this fight. Plus Bradley has somehow dropped his left hand and trying to copied Floyd.

PAC going to out box badly Bradley this fight and Floyd name will again come up. But what new about that. LOL.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:10 pm 

te tumbo

F’k the “official stats”. they’ve been as thoroughly discredited as “official scorecards” in the eyes of any fight-fan with 20/20 vision. Trout was thoroughly dominated in EVERY category by Canelo: offense, defense, and footwork, Canelo simply OWNED Trout who professed “Shock” at his inability to deal with Canelo. never mind the spin-control following his loss, Trout’s candid and uncoached response immediately following the fight jibes with what actually occurred in the ring. only bias would compel anyone to believe otherwise.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:00 pm 


stick to KFC moron

Posted February 14, 2014 3:59 pm 


Canelo didn’t dominate Trout in punches landed. Lara did. View the stats.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:52 pm 

te tumbo

during the build-up to Mayweather v. Canelo, I posted that my primary worry about Canelo’s chances was Tark’s over-the-top estimation of the challenge he would pose for Floyd. if you’re a Lara fan, I would worry just as much about Tark’s over-the-top estimation of Lara’s ring-potency. it’s all in his head and has never actually been seen in a boxing ring.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:50 pm 

te tumbo

“Trout out-landed Canelo by a significant punch-count” based on whose count? otherwise, Puh-Leeeze?! Trout was missing punches in unprecedented bunches. not even whittaker was able to make a presumably top-notch opponent miss that terribly. during a couple of exchanges, I literally lost count of the punches that Trout was missing. Canelo’s domination of Trout was as thorough as Mayweather’s of Guerrero. otherwise, i dare anybody to identify the boxing category that Canelo didN’T dominate Trout in?

Posted February 14, 2014 3:47 pm 

te tumbo

“Lara would beat the hell out of Canelo for 12 rounds”. Yeh(?). the same guy who couldn’t “beat the hell” out of Molina or Angulo is gonna trample Canelo(?!). TARK, you’re as off about your praise (AGAIN) of the above-average Lara as you were premature about your praise of Canelo before his bout v. Mayweather: Severely. Lara has not demonstrated a single moment of elite ability v. any elite fighter, even Once. he’s been laboring v. the B-list with mixed results. he was bedeviled by Molina (who he simply refuses to rematch despite Molina owning a title); intimidated by Vanes; and decked twice by a plodding Angulo who seems to be struggling to make a healthy 154lbs any more. Lara is simply not a fighter. he’s a boxer. only a balanced combination of both will make him truly elite, which he’s not. he remains an aging and mixed-bag of potential.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:44 pm 


Anonymous, you just don’t know Boxing.

GGG will fight any middleweight in the world that has achieved a position of middleweight prominence. Lara has NOT achieved that prominence. The most logical opponents for Golovkin right now are Quillin and Martinez. He called both men out repeatedly without any reply. Obviously they don’t want to fight him. They have both fought guys GGG has knocked out.

GGG would fight Lara in a heartbeat—it’s obviously an attractive fight—but it would depend on what the offer was, and it would have to be at middleweight. Put up the money and venue or STFU!!! All these other guys have had promotional backing and they’ve paid up.

Floyd Mayweather is the 154-pound world champion so why isn’t he fighting Lara—who is obviously the best 154-pounder in the world???

GGG gains no title by fighting Lara—so money would be his only motivation—and he’s making tons of money right now. It would have to be a damned good offer. It’s one thing to call somebody out to gain tons of publicity—it’s another thing to put up a serious offer.

Posted February 14, 2014 2:53 pm 


same sh#t. different day.

Posted February 14, 2014 2:52 pm 



lara has called out ggg why is the punk ggg not taking the fight why answer that please ggg wants to continue too fight bum after bum after bum lara has has called him out 3 times now what is the problem
Posted February 14, 2014 2:12 pm

I think GGG will run over Lara, but it may be a good fight. Hopefully it can be made. You see what Angulo did to Lara by walking him down

Posted February 14, 2014 2:21 pm 


Canelo could never hang with GGG… He’d be stopped… Angulo is more Canelo’s speed because he can’t box a lick.

Lara would beat the hell out of Canelo for 12 rounds. Lara is contemplating challenging the middleweights—because all the 154-pounders are running scared from him after his massive domination of Austin Trout.

Trout out-landed Canelo by a significant punch-count… Trout completely dominated the ATG Miguel Cotto—and got hit with fewer jabs than Floyd did from Cotto… But Trout couldn’t find Lara with a search party—and he was eating leather like there’s no tomorrow.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:52 pm 


I am not gonna argue with any of your comments because I make those same arguments on other fighters. I am just going by what I see and I see an elite fighter. But yeah wouldn’t surprise me if I am wrong. I felt that way about a few fighters and of course the moment they stepped it up they got beat and beat handily. Heck Michael Grant is one that comes immediately to mind.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:44 pm 

get over it

PEEJ its easy to look good beating up cab drivers. Prime example is Adrien Broner, not comparing there skills or styles but we all know what can happen giving these guys more credit than they earned. GGG will clean out the division? That’s like fossils in a museum remains to be seen. lol The jury is still out on him. He will get his ass kicked by Canelo or Ward who are only a few founds away from him. But again Floyd is too small for GGG

Posted February 14, 2014 1:29 pm 



Posted February 14, 2014 1:21 pm 


I agree to an extent. Though I don’t think GGG is a bum. I think he is the best at 160 and that is from an eye ball test. Not from his actual comp though he has dispatched of his comp like he is supposed to. I also believe that when he does step up his comp then he will be successful and clean out the division.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:06 pm 


Who cares Triple Golovkin is a middleweight who hasn’t fought anyone he is 160lbs way too big moron, besides Floyd is really too small to even make 154 lbs when he fights these guys he always comes in underweight. He said he is staying at 147lbs from now on. Hell I guess next people will be saying he is afraid of klitschko, Floyd avoiding everyone who could beat him all the way up to middleweights? LOL What fighter in his weight class hasn’t he fought besides Manny? Who is so much a treat he been beat 5 times what ass clowns…especially Dragon born

Posted February 14, 2014 12:58 pm 


I could care less what you mean. I didn’t read your other garbage because it was once again a novel a garbage novel at that. You just need to stick with pounding men in the rear since that is what you like to do. I don’t support that so you know but I do support the right to choose. So just keep being yourself and pounding away.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:47 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

PEEJ ”I didn’t read all that. Post comments not novels”

There I saved you the time.

Now go and jump off a bridge. I genuinely mean that too.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:43 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

Now where is the proof I asked you to present to me that Triple Golovkin does not have a contract with HBO? That’s right you can’t produce any. When called to do so you just ran away from the thread with you tail tucked between your p!-ss soaked bony little chicken thighs. You kept making these claims, telling me I didn’t know what I was talking about despite the fact I was the only one of us who CLEARLY does and that I backed it up with incontestable hard proof from multiple different sources all of whom are infinitely more credible than compulsive liar internet geek you.

Now pull you pants up and go and wipe you @ss clean you useless bag of old bones. I’ve had my fun with and I’m done. Done r@p!ng you and done wasting my time on your sad no social life compulsive lying worthless @ss. ROFL

Posted February 14, 2014 12:40 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

Just one of many examples of PEEJ Bot’s tactics

He says this the other day, again taking completely out of @ss offering zero proof to back up his spurious claims.

”GGG is not contracted to HBO so there should be no issue of him fighting once on showtime.”

Posted February 9, 2014 11:08 am

Lord Gonzo posts this, as always backing his arguments up with hard proof and incontestable evidence yet again.

Dan Rafael

”Golovkin hasn’t heard the final bell since an eight-round decision win over Amar Amari in 2008. That means he has knocked out all 10 challengers he has faced in his title defenses.

There’s a reason he is must-see TV, even if HBO blew it on this fight and did not work out a deal to show the fighter WHO IS UNDER CONTRACT TO THE NETWORK and has become one of it’s cornerstone fighters (and best ratings draws).

When HBO, which has exclusive broadcast rights to Golovkin’s fights in North America, initially said it wouldn’t have room for Golovkin in its February schedule, K2 promoter Tom Loeffler made a deal with South African promoter Rodney Berman to put on the Monte Carlo fight, just as he had for Golovkin-Ishida”

Gabe Montoya: ”Does Golovkin have any lateral movement? Is he strictly an HBO fighter?”

Steve Kim: ”Yes. He is. I don’t think there’s any other way to say it. He is an HBO fighter. They have absolutely made him a pillar. He’s just like the Game of Thrones. He’s just like Girls. Or he’s just like True Detective. He will only be seen on HBO and the bottom line is HBO made it very clear to me, two things. What happened this weekend (the Adama fight not being shown on HBO) will no happen regardless of where he fights. When he fights it will be televised by HBO they just have top find a bigger venue this time around. And second of all, anytime he fights it will be exclusively on HBO. And that is a fact of life that they are dealing with each other.

ROFL Compulsive liar PEEJ knows better than Triple Golovkin’s manager and Steve Kim.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:25 pm

Argument over, right? Nope a few days later PEEJ is then back to spewing his inane debunked crap yet again, which is what he always does. He gets brutally raped and humiliated, tries to deny his ass has just been savagely bummed, and then a few days later it’s back to PEEL spewing bollocks bot mode.

PEEJ comes back with this

”You post snips of articles to try and prove your point but refuse to post the whole situation. Just like you state that GGG is contracted to HBO yet he is not. Steve Kim stated he is a HBO staple but only because of the relationship, he is not contracted to HBO. But like I said you only posted one little piece of them talking about it. Just so you can support your lame arguments. Weak”

Posted February 13, 2014 11:10 am

King Daddy Gonzo replies with

ROFL Compulsive liar PEEJ knows better than Triple Golovkin’s manager and Steve Kim.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:25 pm

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

He has a stipulation in his CONTRACT WITH HBO that he can fight abroad once a year. Hence why he fought Ishida and Adama in Monaco. I I explained this to you already. The only reason HBO didn’t broadcast his last fight was because of logistical problems. All his fights, regardless which country they’re staged, are going to be on HBO from now on providing it’s possible to do so.

Triple Golovkin’s manager yesterday

Managing Director of K2 Promotions Tom Loeffler, who handles Golovkin, had this to say on the matter, via Boxing Scene’s Jake Donovan:

“It’s well known that Gennady Golovkin – when he fights in the United States – is under exclusive contract with HBO. Lara is with Golden Boy and fights on Showtime. So while he is a great fighter for whom we have a tremendous amount of respect, the bottom line is that HBO is our biggest strategic partner and it’s up to his promoter to get him accepted by HBO.

“The strange thing is that his name really never came up. His insistence took us by surprise. It’s not that Gennady doesn’t want to fight him – he’ll fight anyone and continues to prove that. But we were looking at fighters who we know can and will fight on HBO.”

Posted February 13, 2014 12:22 pm

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

PEEJ no one takes you seriously. You have been proven time and time again to be completely clueless and a compulsive liar and here you are doing it again.

You’re the one who makes false claims and never backs them up.. then I come along and expose you for the inept, lying simpleton you are by destroying your lies with hard proof and evidence every single time. No amount of bare-faced lying and revisionism is going to change that. You get about as thoroughly exposed and humiliated as is humanly possible, all you lies exposed and debunked, and then a few days later you’re back on here posting the same debunked lies and crap like nothing ever happened. ROFL.

I don’t refuse to post anything you liar. You’re going to have to come a lot better than that little boy. I’m way to intelligent for that. ROFL. I post the relevant parts of the articles you thick c*nt. The parts that pertain to the subject being discussed. You however never post anything to back up your spurious claims.

Triple Golovkin is a HBO fighter. He has a contact with them. Fact. All his fights will only be broadcast IN THE US on HBO from now on. Comprende? If he doesn’t have a contract with prove it. Let’s see some written proof or video footage from you stating that he does not have a contract with them? We both know you’re not going to be able to do that? ROFL.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:14 pm

Posted February 14, 2014 12:37 pm 

You paid $5 for a Starbucks drink ?

Mayweather reminds me of Bernard Hopkins. Both talkers both duckers and claim to be legends when they are not. Mayweather knows if Paq wasnt a threat he would of fought Pacquiao years ago. All this talk is just talk like. Hopkins and Mayweather are hated people.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:20 pm 

te tumbo

emphasis on outSmarted. Canelo simply chose the wrong fight-plan and lacked the experience to adapt to Mayweather’s actual skills and talent, which completely disarmed him. he simply couldn’t catch-up or draw an accurate bead on Floyd who proceeded to skate towards the final bell.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:20 pm 

te tumbo

TARK, you seem incapable of recognizing the obvious skills and experience gap that enabled Mayweather to simply outsmart Canelo and beat him to the occasional punch. otherwise, Canelo showed-up v. Mayweather. he was simply out of his depth and it showed. that’s what happens when you underestimate greatness before personally facing it in a boxing ring.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:18 pm 


And no Lara was not robbed against Vanes. Plenty of people thought it was a draw, some people had Vanes winning. So sorry it wasn’t a robbery. You can think so in your eyes I could care less. Fact is though it wasn’t a robbery

Posted February 14, 2014 11:23 am 


I haven’t made anything up. When I am wrong I admit it. Something you can’t even do.

Posted February 14, 2014 11:22 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

Vegetable brain PEEJ says

”Just because you say so doesn’t make it true”

ROFL The irony of that coming from YOU of all people is mind blowing. LMFAO. That’s all you ever do on here – make sh-it up and then blurt it out of your ass like it’s the gospel truth. ROFL. That and rasp on Floyd’s stinky little rat bollocks like an asthmatic catfish 24/7/365. ROFL. As I’ve explained to you numerous times in the past, this is why nobody takes you seriously.

Lara, the foreigner fight an American in the US, was robbed of a victory against Vanes. No it wasn’t an outrageous robbery like when he was robbed against Williams, again when he was stitched up over in the US against an American, but he still clearly deserved to win regardless if it wasn’t by much. It was a close but clear win and most people who witnessed it, not just me, agreed with that. Comprende?

As for the rest of the bollocks you typed.. Stop spinning. You’re not fooling anyone least of all me. All you’re doing is applying lashings of negative spin on Lara to minimize his achievements and the threat he presents to the fighter you spend the vast majority of the disturbing amount of time you spend on here tonguing the @nus of. It’s not going to wash.

As I’ve explained already Lara is not only clearly a better fighter than all of Floyd’s opponents I listed, is more deserving he’s also got a much better resume than they did at the weight they fought Floyd at, not when they were in their primes. I understand you’re terrified of Floyd stepping in there with legitimate prime threats who stand a chance of beating him and I don’t have a problem with that. Just be honest about it instead of concocting excuse after excuse. I’d probably would be really insecure about my favourite fighter losing to if I was a desperately insecure no social life Internet nerd who derives their self-worth through living vicariously through other’s achievements, too. ROFL.

Now go away you weird little transgenger ho-mo freak. I’m thoroughly bored of toying with you now. ROFL.

Posted February 14, 2014 11:16 am 


I boycott all Mayweather fights. Tired of his B.S. and seeing his face on forums like he is some kind of boxing god. He isn’t! Step up ducker and fight the real contenders and quit with your phony excuses.

Posted February 14, 2014 10:52 am 


If being weight drained has NO adverse effect on a boxers performance, why did DLH appear as dead man walking when he was made to quit against Pacquiao? Why did Pacquiao insist on it to fight Cotto and Floyd to fight Canelo. Two pounds means nothing to a person who’s never worked out in their life much less, someone who’s never boxed. More than just head games are the primary reason for it.

Posted February 14, 2014 8:23 am 



Posted February 14, 2014 8:07 am 



Posted February 14, 2014 8:00 am 

Ray Ray

Not true…..fight 4 charity? Hopkins? GGG? Sergio? Bradley? All thrown there hat in, I’m sure there’s more. Begging? Calling out? Wanting 4 pay day? End result is the same. Every1 wants a shot @ Floyd. Why? $$$$$$ and the chance 2 cement there own legacy in beating a guy no1 else has. It’s not a bad thing, just human nature 2 want what some1 else has. There’ll b another 4/5 guys that’ll have that chance b4 he’s done.

Posted February 14, 2014 7:04 am 


Not true only 1 is begging. The rest just want one for the pay day. 1 wants it for legacy

Posted February 14, 2014 6:22 am 

Ray Ray

Every1 is begging 4 a fight with Floyd…..not just khan.

Posted February 14, 2014 6:08 am 


Khan will continue begging for the fight, right up until the moment Maidana steps into the ring with Floyd on 3rd May. Khan will be ringside in his boxing shorts, gloves laced up, still begging for the fight. Hilarious. Maidana deserves it. Khan does not.

Posted February 14, 2014 5:36 am 


Exactly TEFLON it wouldn’t matter about weight PAC smashes everyone as he did. Weight is irrelivent. Quite simple

Posted February 14, 2014 4:47 am 


Canelo just got schooled he has skills just not good enough, weight was not so much a factor as skills. Poor pacturds always make excuses why Floyd beat guys. Saying they were drained like Marquez was too small any excuse but excuses are like A holes we all got one. He is just that good. I bet Manny will never face Canelo. Manny got KTFO by Marquez but when Floyd beat him he was too small what nonsense…

Posted February 14, 2014 4:42 am 


And what you LOOK like at the weigh in is irrelevant. I saw James Toney LOOK like a FAT Bowl of JELLY at the weigh in and he still WON. Tarver TOO.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:14 am 


Good I’m glad atleast there is one floydoid that takes it for what it really is. A GREAT CHAMP!!!

Posted February 14, 2014 4:13 am 


SKILLS is more important than weight draining. That’s why Hopkins drained himself and still SPANKED De la Hoya

Posted February 14, 2014 4:08 am 


You can’t find one post I wrote in MY life where I complained about someone being weight drained. And you never WILL.

Posted February 14, 2014 4:02 am 


Alverez lost because he was 23 and fought a top 5 guy of this generation. Maybe when he is 28-30 story could of been different

Posted February 14, 2014 4:00 am 


CORRECTION. …on the night he got beat BY Floyd. …

Posted February 14, 2014 3:59 am 


And boxtra you go on about compubox yet say PAC lost to Bradley. Compubox had PAC out landing Bradley by 94 punches. BOOM

Posted February 14, 2014 3:55 am 


Well stop winging about pacs opponents weight draining then. You just put your foot in it you fool

Posted February 14, 2014 3:54 am 


WHO cares what you LOOK like at the weigh in??? You don’t Fight at the weigh in. You Fight the day AFTER the weigh in. …and being drained is a convenient excuse for LOSERS. Hopkins drained himself for 10 YEARS and kept WINNING. Roy Jones Jr. drained himself from HW back to LHW and still WON. Ricky Hatton drained himself for most of his career and WON a lot. Mikey Garcia is draining himself and he keeps WINNING. SO being drained is LESS important than SKILL level. Canelo would have beaten Austin Trout again on the night he beat Floyd but he wasn’t facing Austin Trout. ..Inexperience at the Top level was Canelo’s problem more than weight was. He hadn’t learned to take something OFF some of his punches yet to increase SPEED and then add something back ON for SHOCK value. …You can’t get TOO predictable vs. Floyd and you have to throw mainly for speed not power. Power shots rarely hit Floyd. He’s the GREATEST Defender vs Power shots in the ENTIRE History of Compubox….Stick to your jab and then sprinkle your power shots IN. I wouldn’t even throw any power shots until the last half of the Fight where he thinks he’s already got me figured out. Thats when you have the BEST opportunity to SHOCK him with something NEW.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:48 am 


This idiot thinks 50 Cent is a boxing expert or promoter. Arhhh moron 50 Cent has done nothing for all his fighters. Gamby and Dirrell both super talents when was the last time they were in the ring? Crystalclear you ar clueless when it comes to boxing. The race card is classy too. Tim Bradley has always maintained that Floyd is the best.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:43 am 


Chicago guy is back. Ohh crap one more dumbo we have to deal with. Actually not, he is REM, Hecdog etc etc.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:35 am 


Its crystalclear you’re a moron, thanks a lot. It should be illegal for you to procreate.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:31 am 


Calslappy lost to Hopkins and he knows that, that’s why he hung up his gloves rather than earn a career high payday in a rematch.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:29 am 


Floyd has no competition between 147 and 154lbs. Only retards think anyone stands a chance. You can’t blame Mayweather for the thin comp around both divisions. He is no Hearns or Duran or Leonard we all know that. both Khan and Maidana don’t stand a chance in hell. Pity everyone now thinks Floyd is ducking Lara when Canelo has successfully done that for over 2 years. No complaints from the retards.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:23 am 

Ray Ray

No Alvarez lost because he wasn’t good enough…as he will again when faced with another elite guy.

Posted February 14, 2014 3:18 am 


canelo lost coz fraudweather forced a catchweight … whos the CW queen now huh?

Posted February 14, 2014 3:13 am 


Canelo showed up and did everything right BUT, the problem is that he fought Floyd “ALL TIME GREAT” Mayweather, and his plans were neutralized! TRUTH! WORD!

Posted February 14, 2014 3:09 am 


Of course you don’t remember Canelo’s effort… He didn’t show up… If he fought as well as the scorecards had him doing it would have been a blockbuster fight.

But he phoned it in… He was out of the office… He didn’t care… He didn’t try… He’s got 12 million dollars for doing nothing but stand there taking an occasional punch and posing. I don’t know why he wore gloves; I guess his hands were cold. And Lara is the best 154-pounder. Charlo is the next best.

And if guys like Pacauiao, Lara, or Garcia fought Floyd they’d give him all he can handle… He would find their speed, power, and skill difficult to deal with. But Floyd is chicken and won’t fight them.

And as far as Fake TARK goes… Joe Calzaghe never fought a real good fighter in his life… He ducked every opportunity to fight a prime great… Ward would box his ears off without even trying.

Posted February 14, 2014 2:40 am 

chicago guy

Floyd is smart fight fixer.

Posted February 14, 2014 2:23 am 

Country Whores Lead Me Home

Mayweather just cherry picks opponents!! He is not a real man!!!! Until he faces that Pacquiao guy, he’ll NEVER be nothin’!!!!!!!!!

Posted February 14, 2014 2:21 am 

te tumbo

i barely recall Canelo’s effort. i was too impressed with Floyd’s. he seems to grow in size and stature whenever he’s in these threatening situations. he becomes and fights like the bigger fighter even when he’s the smaller fighter on the scale. you need to watch that fight again. the story wasn’t Canelo’s inexperience but Mayweather’s sustained formidability beyond his natural fighting weight. he still can’t be bullied or outsmarted or outboxed. we’ve seen it three times already v. the presumed best 154lbr available with the same result. Mayweather’s “0” simply becomes more prominent. you can quibble over degrees of odds that might favor other welters but in terms of the matchup? Khan has range, speed, and power that Floyd hasn’t faced since DLH. much more intriguing than watching Floyd toy with 140lbrs or green and overmatched 147lbrs.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:49 am 

get over it

Tark what you fail to realize is Floyd makes the best look easy like they have no skills. The weight wasn’t a factor for Canelo Floyd is just that great moron. Canelo was 152 a the weight in and most likely ballooned the hell up after the weight in. Canelo was undefeated and KOed just about everyone he faced he just got Schooled like all the rest Floyd has fought. Prime example I bet no one else beats Canelo So Maidana or Kahn it don’t matter they both get they ass handed to them along with anyone else. Danny Garcia is not ready neither is Thurman or Shawn Porter. Manny and Bradley will face off with Marquez waiting on the winner of that. So who does that leave?

Posted February 14, 2014 1:48 am 


Calzaghe would beat Ward like a ginger stepson, that’s no joke.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:43 am 


Floyd beat a weight drained Canelo who was fighting to make his 12 million and not spending anything on sparring partners… I wasn’t impressed with Canelo’s effort or the way he looked at the weighin… I wasn’t the only one who noticed he was parched at the weighin… Andre Ward made no bones about Canelo’s condition.

All the fighters I mentioned would do 10 times better than Khan against Floyd… Khan is for crap… Khan would NEVER fight any of those guys because they would ALL kill him without remorse… Khan is another Victor Ortiz looking to happen.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:34 am 


Calzaghe is the best.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:29 am 

te tumbo

“. . . had Amir turning his back and not only running — but sprinting away. I’ve never seen that before”. sure you have. Ramirez v. whittaker. “Sweet Pea” did just that, more than once I believe(?), in his first and well-deserved loss v. Ramirez in France. that result of that bout was very gratifying to watch

Posted February 14, 2014 1:25 am 

te tumbo

TARK, you didn’t name a single welter that would possibly be favored v. Floyd or stood a better chance than Khan. Garcia and Mathysse are comfortably established at 140lbs and it’s not as if Danny’s recent matchmaking can be described as ambitious. Thurman would be good but he’s no more ready to face Floyd than Canelo was. what’s the point? Shawn Porter and Kell who? talk about sparring matches?! what network is gonna bother broadcasting that on any day other than Thursday? E-Nuff of the 154lb matchups. Floyd just faced and defeated the best 154lbr. besides, 147lbs is already Floyd’s standing concession in terms of fighting weight. he can barely crack 150lbs. let the 154lbrs sort each other out and leave Floyd out of it. Pacquiao* has a 5″ reach disadvantage, no jab, a porous defense, and fatally-predictable offense. his attempt at outboxing Marquez in III only exposed the glaring flaws in Manny’s* boxing ability. what can he possible do better v. Floyd? . . . Utterly Delusional.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:20 am 


American Boxing icons, experts and legends who confirms Mayweather is scared of Manny Pacquiao.
1) Mike Tyson
2) Roy jones jr
3) Larry Holmes
4) Marvin hagler
5) Bert sugar – greatest boxing historian
6) Michael Wilbon – espn
7) sugar Ray Leonard
8) Tim Bradley
9) Oscar dela Hoya
10) 50 cent – Boxing Promoter and best friend
11) Max Ledermann
12) Larry Merchant
13) Stephen A Smith -Converted Die hard Fan.
16) Evander Holyfield
17) Skip Bayless
18) many more top come ….

10 of 18 are black brothas LOL

Posted February 14, 2014 1:14 am 


Te Tumbo… Any ranked welterweight is a better matchup for Floyd than pathetic punching bag Amir Khan — a guy who refuses to fight a world-class opponent — since Danny Garcia lit him up like a Christmas tree and had Amir turning his back and not only running — but sprinting away. I’ve never seen that before.

Danny Garcia and Lucas Matthysse would jump on the fight and they’d be 10 times better than Khan, who can’t even beat lightweights.

Shawn Porter… Kell Brook… Manny Pacquiao… Keith Thurman and many other WW’s would kill Khan, and be an acceptable fight for Floyd… At 154 you have Erislandy Lara and Jermall Charlo.

Posted February 14, 2014 1:07 am 


Mannys last fight is exactly the way floyd has fought the past 5 years. Floydoids call it boring if PAC does and exhibition if floyd does. Get some listerine and gets floyds cum out your mouth and bum TUMBO

Posted February 14, 2014 12:55 am 


It’s funny you say boring sparring session yet the all time greats of boxing called it a clinic. Guess that’s why Holyfield, Lewis, Tyson are past great champs and your a keyboard warrior

Posted February 14, 2014 12:51 am 


Pac man would eat Mayweather up, like that arcade game Pac man.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:50 am 


Good one tumbo seen as khan ain’t even a welter

Posted February 14, 2014 12:49 am 

te tumbo

TARK, what better matchup for Mayweather at welter? not the worthiest challenger but in terms of boxing entertainment and competitiveness, which other welter would you rather see v. Mayweather? and don’t dare mention any fighter with a 5″ reach DISadvantage, severely-dented chin, and coming off a one-year hiatus followed by his own super-boring sparring session v. Rios. THAT is a lousy matchup. Manny* doesn’t stand a chance.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:47 am 


Another thing you have to understand about the Pacquiao v Mayweather fight, Pacquiao would go after him, destruction and destroy and Mayweather is probably aware of that also as a fighter.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:44 am 


Part of the way Hagler makes his living now days is hyping stinky fights on talk shows.. Why else would he ever say Mayweather-Khan is a “great fight???”

Hagler either has no interest in Boxing and doesn’t fallow it, or is just lying through his teeth for the sake of British promoters, who want to stage the fight as a viable contest. Hagler is pushing to get the fight done in England — where it’s going to be held anyway. It makes no sense to put that fight here … it’s a super easy sparring session.

Hatton makes his living promoting fights so what’s he going to say? That it’s a lousy matchup?

Posted February 14, 2014 12:41 am 


Tetumbo must have Pacquiaoitus if he thinks Pacquiao is no threat to Mayweather, delusional, you can get treatment for that, seriously.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:37 am 

te tumbo

who gives a sh@t about the politics of Floyd’s probable choice? Khan is the is the most intriguing of the possible remaining matchups at welter. he’s got range, speed, and power that Floyd hasn’t faced since DLH. you boys are absolutely delusional to think Pacquiao* poses any serious threat to Floyd. in fact, how could any smaller opponent with a 5″ reach disadvantage possibly be favored v. Floyd!? it would be another Maidana v. Broner or B-Hops v. Trinidud or DLH v. Gatti or Mayweather v. Gatti(?!), but Worse. none of the defeated fighters went into their bouts with a chin as severely-dented as Pacquiao* and only Gatti faced the actual Mayweather and he took a shellacking. not unlike what Pacquiao* would experience v. a still-prime Mayweather who would exploit Pacquiao’s* lack of a jab, porous defense, and spastic but predictable footwork to repeatedly tee-off on Pacquiao* for as long as he can take it. if a 39-year-old Marquez had Pacquiao’s* rhythm down-pat, which he publicly asserted beFore he KO’d Pacquiao*, what do you think Mayweather will do with the same opportunity? win in an anticlimactic and lopsided mismatch.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:34 am 


…”Hagler and sugar ray are ten times the fighter that floyd is. Period.”

Right… Just ask Terry Norris how easy Leonard was to hit. Norris put on a clinic hitting Leonard with every type of punch there is.

Do that to Floyd.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:27 am 


Posted February 14, 2014 12:23 am 


…. “Mayweather will look stupid if Khan beats him.”

Right… Golovkin would have looked stupid if Macklin beat him. Guys who can’t defend themselves aren’t going to beat this caliber of fighter in a million years … If Julio Diaz is hitting you with loaded stuff you’re a punching bag.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:21 am 


Hagler and sugar ray are ten times the fighter that floyd is. Period

Posted February 14, 2014 12:15 am 


Manny wouldn’t agree with any shi t you run on about. Manny has already been 1 and is top 10 now. Bradley never beat him and he already beat Marquez twice. Bradley is going down in April and Marquez November. You stick with your boy boner

Posted February 14, 2014 12:14 am 


Fight says… “Ali, Hagler and the rest didn’t duck.” GTFOOH

What was Ali doing fighting fighting unranked Leon Spinks (6-0-1) when Larry Holmes was the world’s best heavyweight??? … Holmes won the stripped title and Ali still wouldn’t face him … Ali finally fought Holmes years later — because Ali was broke… and because Ali had no title to lose… and because the fight no longer meant a damned thing.

Why didn’t Hagler fight Mike McCallum or Michael Nunn when he was trying to force a rematch with Ray Leonard??? … Hagler retired at 32 rather than, “embarrass myself fighting these young guys.”

Maybe Floyd doesn’t want to get embarrassed either. He’ll be 37 when he smashes the ripest of cherries. That’s 5 years older than Hagler when Marvin fought his last fight and got beat.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:13 am 

Boxtradamus aka the Brand New Bottle of WHISKEY (Which is what killed E.A.P.)

Titles in divisions is LESSER than beating the BEST of the BEST which is found on the Top 10 P4P list. Manny agrees with ME on that as he EASILY WON titles in 8 divisions but when he tried to beat 2 Top 10 P4P Fighters in a row he got beat and knocked the f.u.c.k OUT.

Posted February 14, 2014 12:06 am 


Manny was set when he broke the record with titles in divisions! Simple

Posted February 13, 2014 11:59 pm 


Mayweathers legacy, he has avoided fighters, Ali, Hagler and the rest did not avoid the best competition, it just got done, Mayweather has avoided fighters, especially Pacquiao for years, and it will be remembered, you can ignore it, but it is a fact.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:58 pm 


Kahn couldnt beat Danny Garcia or Maidana how the hell can he beat Floyd? His legacy is already cemented nothing is going to change the unless he goes on a sting of losses in which I dont see happening. Manny is still fighting for his legacy because of losses and getting KTFO…

Posted February 13, 2014 11:48 pm 

Twa t

Mayweather will look stupid if Khan beats him, which is a possiblity, you can ignore it, but it is afact.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:37 pm 

Twa t

Look at Mayweather with his silly hat and and glasses, looks a right idiot.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:35 pm 


The article states what many if not most have known of Floyd for years, he’s been a cherry picking, fighting has-beens and past their prime fighters as well as catchweight, in the hopes the fans who have made him rich think he’s a great fighter. But nothing could be further from the truth. Floyd’s a great fighter in terms of SKILL…but…..he is NOT a great fighter in terms of opponents he has fought, especially lately. Floyd has NO career defining fight because he has intentionally side-stepped every worth while opportunity to have done so. Ortiz was not a career defining fight and neither was Guerrero. Where are they today?? Ortiz just got KO’d a week ago and this is what Floyd wants fans to believe make him “great?” We know better! What has he done lately.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:18 pm 


The Khan fight was pushed on Floyd by Floyd…no one else!!! Floyd’s his own boss.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:18 pm 


The Khan fight was “pushed” on Floyd… There are dozens of better fighters out there… Floyd is cherry-picking… He can make 3 times as much fighting Pacquiao.

Khan has been playing it safe since Garcia gave him an early exit… He took some brutal punches in that fight and I believe he can’t take it anymore… He’s trying to cash out.

He’s in the same spot mentally that Victor Ortiz is in.

Posted February 13, 2014 10:23 pm 


Peej you say that he fought cotto before jail. But a bit different between 90 days and 14 months I might say. And as for the fight being pushed on him, that doesn’t hold many legs, the PAC fight has been pushed for 6 years and yet still here we are

Posted February 13, 2014 10:12 pm 

Swedish Boxing Fan

Floyd Mayweather Jr already have gambled his legacy and will be rememberd as “Greedy Boy”. This boxer is boxing history’s biggest prima donna ever and never before there have exsisted one either!.

Floyd Mayweather jr is mabey a gifted skilled boxer who have won many nice fights but they are hardly rememble and fun to watch withc his safe boxing and ego showing. Mayweather Jr have never fought in a warior match at all and his decision to at all cost cherry pick the easiest but most earning fight he can get doesen’t help him either.

Floyd Mayweather Jr is mabey undefeated BUT once again what is that presius “0” worth on the paper when you avoid the more thretning match picks and talk trash about those fighters.

Does a great champion says things over and over again like “I’m the best”, “He is not worthy of fighting me”, or “His PPV is not as good as mine”, “I will retire, unless there is great money” etc-etc.
Thus all this sound great? NO-NO-NO it sounds like a pretty boy in wrong sport. he should have been a model or something, NOT a boxer.

Floyd Mayweather Jr is so protected by his father and uncles these days that it is scary and naming yourself Floyd “Money” sure gives you what is the most important thing in life.
# Floyd Mayweather jr only fight for the moneys and nothing else like legacy or belts.
# He don’t fight for the world championship titles any longer and haven’t cared for them for years as he is the only boxer ever in history to act and get away with it.
# He don’t fight for his fans either as he have so many times not cared for fighting the opponents they wished for and if they are on a promotor team he doesen’t like, (Top Rank, Dopn King, Sutherland) he cries that he don’t want to fight then.
# He refuses to fight against opponents that is mandatory, only fights opponents he want’s

Seriusly I’m have it with this clown for a long time now and I’m so tired of his bulls#it acting and hopless money image. He is not a peoples champion and never was and never will be. He will never be spoken about as a great boxer threw history, just a good gifted one, thats it. The day he retires, the better becouse NEVER have there been such a bad taste of a top boxer playing around and embarrasing the sport of boxing like this.

Tallent is not all from a boxer to be great regardless of good fights on the paper, its just a paper in the end but how many will talk about those fights in the long end?

I never hear people talk about any of his fights, just all his clown acts. The only ones I hear is his fight with Oscar De la Hoya or 2nd fight with Jose Luis Castillo, or his fight with Carlos Hernandez, the man who droped Mayweather Jr first time. Why? becouse many people gave the fight to his opponents, thats all.

Posted February 13, 2014 10:04 pm 


Boxtra is no prophet he picked broner hahaha. And he has picked Bradley the fool

Posted February 13, 2014 9:49 pm 


You make excuses cotto doesn’t. As he says PAC is the hardest fight he ever had not floyd duckweather hahaha

Posted February 13, 2014 9:47 pm 


They fought for cotto s title you poo f tumbo, cotto wanted the fight, he defended his title. PAC tore him to bits, mayweather couldn’t even budge him haha, your a forum guy that knows nothing of boxing and alot of nothing

Posted February 13, 2014 9:46 pm 

Boxtradamus aka the Brand New Bottle of WHISKEY (Which is what killed E.A.P.)

OH I forgot AGAIN. No one comes CLOSE to making the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born say WOW WOW WOW. Floyd is the GOAT.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:45 pm 


OH I forgot. No one comes CLOSE to having the best stats in the ENTIRE History of Compubox. Floyd is the GOAT.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:40 pm 


Floyd’s legacy is rock SOLID. I mean his resume is a diamond and everyone else’s is TISSUE paper. No one even comes CLOSE to defeating 10 CHAMPS in a 12 Fight span. No one even comes CLOSE to defeating 5 Top 10 P4P Fighters in a 7 Fight span. No one comes CLOSE to WINNING the Top 2 Richest Fights since the Earth was formed. Simply put. Floyd is the GOAT.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:39 pm 



Posted February 13, 2014 9:20 pm 



Posted February 13, 2014 9:15 pm 

Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

@te tumbo

MP and FM both use catch weight bs for there fights but MP always made weight for those fights unlike FM.

Posted February 13, 2014 9:00 pm 

Floyd Xylocaine Mayweather

remember when FM was chocking ortiz at the weigh ins that was a class act.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:57 pm 

te tumbo

AUZBOX, you’re an Imbecile. Pacquiao* deviously catchweight-compromised Cotto in an attempt to wring whatever competitiveness he could out of that matchup. Btw, PACQUIAO* featured weight in their matchup NOT Cotto or fight-fans, which does NOT result in immunity on this issue. also, what undefeated fighter doesn’t spew excuses after being unexpectedly DECKED Five times and defeated for the first time by the presumably smaller and weaker opponent? you’re in danger of spinning right into orbit with your deceptive half-baked rhetoric. on the other hand, you fit the typical profile of the shrill and boxing-ignorant Pactard* . . . “Congratulations!”

Posted February 13, 2014 8:20 pm 


And don’t make weight excuses. Cotto doesn’t make excuses so don’t make them for him. Cotto came down 1 weight where PAC was fighting up 3 so better than fair

Posted February 13, 2014 8:12 pm 


PAC bashed the prime cotto long before mayweather did, and floyd put in a full camp for cotto. Corralles said himself he didn’t train properly

Posted February 13, 2014 8:07 pm 


Dude Floyd fought Cotto when he had to go to jail. And the Corrales fight was actually pushed on Floyd.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:06 pm 


Williams lost to the Puerto Rican dude, was out boxed for 12 rounds. Not to mention he couldn’t just stay in one weight class. Cintron also should not be brought up in a conversation either. Clottey, really, who would of wanted to see that fight? Margacheato lost to Williams and really should never be brought up in the discussion. He is a cheater. As for Cotto, Arum didn’t want him near Floyd. Floyd tried to make a fight but Arum said no he is not ready.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:05 pm 


Legacy of a great cherry picker! Floyd is not losing that! That is his legacy.

Posted February 13, 2014 8:00 pm 


He fought corralles when he had to go to jail and wasnt training right. His best win is the hatton fight

Posted February 13, 2014 7:59 pm 

g unitII

@hec dog , we know your a pac fan and so are aloy of us , everyone has their flaws , but your talking about mayweather like he is the biggest ducker , thats just not true , but i must admit he has taken the options that make the best business and the lower risk at times , but before he signed to fight canelo alot of people were saying that he was ducking and scared of canelo , alot of people were suprised that he even took the fight , canelo and his team said themselves that the loss in weight will help them in terms of speed , and if it was going to affect them they should have not taken the fight , when floyd fought corralas he was 33-0 and most of those knockouts , you cant say he ducking when he fights someone like that , and just so you know , im not a floyd fan , but i think he has some awesome skills

Posted February 13, 2014 7:46 pm 


The legacy of the Coward.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:38 pm 


cant believe im responding to peej. how embarresing

Posted February 13, 2014 7:35 pm 


peej – when Floyd retired. the WW were , cotto, clottey , margarito, cintron, quintana, Williams etc etc. I think Floyd would have spanked them all. yet he “retired” then came back when they had all had a loss. case closed

Posted February 13, 2014 7:35 pm 


When did all the welters fall? I am curios to know when that happened. Floyd has been reigning for 17 years. So please let me know when the welters fell

Posted February 13, 2014 7:27 pm 


Floyd legacy is set in stone. supremely talented pure boxer who “retired” when his chance for glory arrived. he then unretired when all the welters had fallen. Floyd proved his skillset, but never his warrior heart. id rate Floyd about #50 – 60 all time greatest. could this be the biggest waste of talent in boxing history. if only Floyd had invested some money in proper psychological help, he may have solved his crippling inferiority complex which is so abundantly evident to any thinking man. it’s this condition which has prevented the pac fight. nothing to do with arum or stadiums or peds. Floyd is simply scared to lose

Posted February 13, 2014 7:21 pm 

te tumbo

“No excuse for fighting khan no matter how you cut it” and what’s the alternative? AUZBOX, simply identify the welter you would favor v. Mayweather or simply STFU already. otherwise, you sound like some sleazy (and minimum-wage) Top Skank publicist hired to insulate Manny* from exposure with nothing but pouty gripes, deceptive gossip, and half-truths, but NO answers or alternatives. bottomline, is that Khan is imminently preferable to Punkuiao* because he at least brings the potential of challenging Mayweather with his speed, range, and punching power. he’s also never been put to sleep or out of commission in a CRUSHING loss v. a fighter that Mayweather easily handled. Garcia, Thurman, Maidana, and Khan are all preferable to severely disadvantaged Manny*. you really need to learn the sport before i make you a special target of my educational efforts.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:17 pm 

te tumbo

Manny* Pacquiao* has been nicknamed the “Mexicuted, The Suspect Champion, The Sham of the Philippines, Nap Man, The Poetically Punished and many other nick names capturing what Manny* Pacquiao* isN’T. Bruce Lee would have smirked at the lack of artistry and reckless punching that Manny* uses to collect favorable but inexplicable scorecard nods. Just as Bruce Lee is Manny’s* hero and idol, Manny* would have Never been Bruce Lee’s hero and idol. The whimsical question arises, just how badly would the truly great and legendary Bruce Lee have beat the crap out of Pacquiao*? based on Team Punkuiao’s* notorious mismatching history, the unavoidable answer is that it would have never happened. Manny* is a suspect athlete that is a bizarre combination of “Mr. M@goo” and “W@rren” from “Someth*ng About M@ry”. lucky and oblivious with a ret@rd’s strength. St. Pacquiao* is similar to a Jehov@h Wit ness. You never know where or when this self-righteous hypocrite is going to posture or preach. This is a man fitted for ignominy. A fighter that Boxing will hopefully not see again for another 1,000,000,000 years. We should feel apprehension to see him fight during our time. 100,000,000 years from now, he will continue to be the talk of boxing . . . whenever the #1 KO in Boxing history or the legacy of Marquez the Greater is discussed. The image and rivalry will live forever. Manny* decisively Lost to the best.

Posted February 13, 2014 7:08 pm 

te tumbo

until Lara EEEagerly rematches IBF champion Carlos Molina, he’s got NUTHIN coming. i could give a crap about the “Cuban mystique” that he’s trying to skate by with. he can wrap his amateur career in a cigar and shove it up his a$$. Angulo should’ve been easy work IF the hype about Lara was true. Hell(?!), even a faded Cintron was able to outpoint Angulo. instead, a plodding Angulo expertly stalked and ripped Lara for the first and second KDs of his career. the only thing that saved Lara was that hemotoma that blew-up on Angulo’s face. otherwise, F’k Lara. he ain’t done a damn thing at elite-level and has struggled v. presumably less-elite fighters and continues to duck Molina.

Posted February 13, 2014 6:58 pm 


No excuse for fighting khan no matter how you cut it.

Posted February 13, 2014 6:38 pm 


Mosley and Oscar both declined to fight Floyd when they where in his prime. Kostya was beaten by Hatton, Floyd called out Kostya also but it fell on def ears. But then lets not also forget that Floyd was under HBO and Kostya was contracted to Showtime. Floyd has many fights against HOF fighters, top 10 ranked fighters and fighters ranked on the mythical P4P list. His resume speaks for itself. If you feel he ducked Pac thats all fine but the many questions that must be asked that are constantly ignored are the excuses team Pac and company came up with on why the fight can’t be made. Yes they both of come out with excuses but Pac has come out with just a few more than Floyd has. You also have to bring Arum in the mix who is the main culprit as to why this fight hasn’t been made. Pac has also ducked some fighters. One being Guzman. This after he was what Guzman did to Augapito Sanchez. Sanchez went life and death with Sanchez and was looking for a way out of the fight. Guzman handled Sanchez with ease and walked straight through him. When Pac saw this he wanted nothing to do with Guzman.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:59 pm 

Constantine the Czar

Hec Dog has the beat.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:48 pm 


And Tunes why don’t you go with what your original screen name is instead of changing it? That name has never been seen before but yet you are calling me out like you have been posting on here for years. Notice I have kept the same screen name for years. I can man up.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:42 pm 


My tongue goes in no mans ass. So then tell me, why did Pac and company come up with all those excuses? Why was building a stadium necessary?

Posted February 13, 2014 5:41 pm 


Peej.. pull ur tongue out of mayweather’s ass. Everyone knows hes ducking pacman.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:23 pm 


Eric what double standard do I have since you are referring to me since I am the one saying there is always a double standard when it comes to Floyd? Hold him on the same level as every other fighter and there will be no double standard.

Posted February 13, 2014 5:04 pm 


Im telling the truth. Lara wasn’t robbed. Just because you say so doesn’t make it true. You are not the almighty of boxing. So what Lara went life and death with Angulo before landing that combination at the end. If that didn’t happen Lara was on his way out by KO. So he beat Trout, big deal. Trout only knows how to fight 1 way and that is counter punching. He doesn’t know how to take the lead in a fight. Molina won that belt in a non fight against Ishe. So what. Molina is still garbage and is John Ruiz 2.0. Lara should of lost the fight to Molina. I already said he was robbed against Williams. And now he is not more deserving. He is about on par with all of them. And then not to mention Floyd has already said he is going back to welter because he is not a true Jr Middle. So really there is no point in talking about the fight. And who is gonna buy the fight? Nobody pays to see a Lara fight. Nobody comes to the cuban fights. Sorry that is the sad truth. Unless of course they fight in Miami

Posted February 13, 2014 5:03 pm 


I find it amusing how some on here blame others of having double standards when infact they also have double standards.

It’s the whole calling the kettle black scenario.
To funny.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:51 pm 


Boxing historians and boxing fan’s that are not bias, in the future will tell a story about floydcthat will resemble what both side claim now.

All boxing fans are right.

Floyd is a great boxer.

And floyd is a ducker and has avoided many fighters all togather and some in their primes.

To be exact, floyd nutt warmers and floyd haters are both right.

Howver, the truth will be somewhere in the middle slightly leaning more towards the haters will be the conclusion with knowledgable boxing fans.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:45 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

Stop spinning son. It ain’t gonna wash.

Lara was robbed against Vanes. He was winning that fight no ifs or buts (see what I did there?)
Lara whooped Trout like he was a feeble old lady. Easy peasy. Canelo went life-and-death with Trout. ROFL.
Lara whooped Paul Williams.
Got a draw against the current IBF 154 champ Molina.
And stopped Angulo even though he’d been stitched up beforehand with all that underhand bull crap to swing things in Angulo’s favour.

Stop making excuses and putting needles obstacles in the way of a Lara fight. No need to be scurred now. Floyd is the best, right? ROFL. Lara is much more deserving than Khan, Canelo, Ortiz, Guerrero, light-weight Marquez and you know it. ROFL.

And don’t try to score cheap points of your daddy.. I know Floyd is the lineal champion. It’s you clowns that need reminded of that when people ask for him to defend it against 154 pounders or anyone who can get down to the weight to compete in that division. LMFAO.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:42 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Floyd’s legacy was tarnished before he began ducking Pacquiao (southpaw). His legacy started eroding once he passed by Kostya Tszyu at 140 in favor of Gatti, continuing as he cherry picked the 147 division while ducking Williams, Cotto, Margarito and Clottey. Through the 130-135 lb divisions he sought out the best with the exception of Casamayor (southpaw). Since 140 and above he’s sought out safe opponents.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:36 pm 


That was no robbery. That was a very close fight. One that I still had Vanes winning at the time of the stoppage though if it would of went the route I believe Lara would of won since he was winning the late rounds. And to say they both have straps. Floyd is the Lineal Champ at Jr Middle. He does not just have a strap, he has the championship belt. Molina really isn’t that good of a fighter. He fights like a new version of John Ruiz. I believe Molina is about to lost that title that he holds to the Charlo brother also. The only robbery Lara was apart of was the Williams fight.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:25 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

A draw with Vanes? That was a robbery. Most people thought Lara had been stitched up yet again. Even dead-eyed zombie mannequin Kellerman said he thought Lara won during the post-fight interview. ROFL.

Molina was a close fight. Molina’s a good fighter though.

Fact is Lara is one of the most risky fights out there for Floyd and one the fans would love to see.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:11 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

I know Lara has an interim title, hence why I said strap. And Khan should be 1-3 in his last 4 fights ROFL. He’s been brutally KO’d twice now, and hurt and dropped on numerous other occasions, some of which by cotton bud fisted part-time pastry chefs and alcoholic street vendors. Julio Diaz’s shot ghost should’ve got the decision against him. And even worse, he dropped him on his ass and hurt him seemingly everytime his glove grazed past his disgustingly feeble old lady glass mandible.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:07 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

That’s what boxing is supposed to be about.- the best in each division squaring off against each other. Floyd vs Lara, Triple Golovkin vs Martinez. Then we can see Floyd vs the next best most deserving and logical challenger at 154, or if he decides to move back down to 147, the next best and most deserving challenger there. Then Golovkin vs Sturm. And hopefully after that the networks and promoters will have come to their senses and put and end to their petty feud and we can see Golovkin vs Peter Chocolate for all the marbles. Then we can see Golovkin move up to 168, and by then he’ll be one of the biggest most marketable stars in the entire sport, and take on Ward on neutral soil in somewhere like Almaty, Kazakhstan, with a Kazakh ref so Ward can’t get away any of his dirty tactics and all that excessive illegal holding crap that is such a key ingredient of his style, and no corrupt judges to fill out all their scorecards lomg before the night of the fight. Perfect!

Posted February 13, 2014 4:01 pm 


Lara, the same Lara that had a draw with Vanes and should of been beaten by Molina. lol. Thats funny. Not to mention he is has an interim title.

Posted February 13, 2014 4:00 pm 


I wouldn’t mind Porter getting a shot. But he has a mandatory fight that he has to do or his belt will be stripped. But I have no problem with him getting it and he may make it more competitive but its hard for me to get the first fight with Diaz out of my head.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:58 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

Edmund Lara is one of the most logical and deserving candidates for a fight against Floyd. The both..

A. They each hold straps in the same division.
B. Share the same management.
3. Fight under the same promotional outfit.
4. Fight on the same TV network.
5. It’s a fight the boxing fraternity and fans would love to see happen.
5. Lara has recently called Floyd out, which predictably fell on deaf ears.

The fight would be a piece of pi-ss to make and it would afford Floyd with the opportunity to silence some of his detractors regarding his penchant for feasting exclusively on a diet of cherry-picked fossilized toothless old former greats and legitimate threats and C grade minimal risk hype jobs and media creations. Lara is genuine legitimate threat and he’s slick and packs a decent whack on him too. Fc-uk all the excuses as to why the fight can’t or shouldn’t happen.. step up to the plate against the slick black Cuban, Floyd. We all know many problems the slick white style gave you, let’s see if you fare any better against the slick black Cuban style instead.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:46 pm 


His legecy is the legecy of the Coward.

Posted February 13, 2014 3:19 pm 

Mike Tyson

Peej forget who deserve it, or paulie deserve it more, with a win over maidana, and didn’t paulie lose to khan? Not sure. think who has a belt is also to be consider because they fought the better guys to claim that spot. Shawn porter 147 belt holder deserve a shot too, I belt you he give a better action fight than too short maidana a cant touch floyd fight all night. Ho – hum.Floyd

Posted February 13, 2014 2:55 pm 


Funny how folks always constantly say Floyd has made excuses but then completely ignore the excuses Pac and company has come up with. Always a double standard for Floyd. And what is also funny is the simple fact that Roach has been on record saying they want to fight everybody Floyd has fought. lol.

Posted February 13, 2014 2:45 pm 


This whole fight stinks of an upset just waiting to happen….Tyson/Holyfield….Lewis/Rahman….McClellan/Benn………….Nunn/Toney…..Morrison/Bentt…ete, etc. Mayweather is a born coward plain and simple! He’s made one excuse after another to avoid fighting Manny Pazquiao….and now he’s going to get stopped by a far lesser than Pacquiao!
Peace, Robbie T

Posted February 13, 2014 2:43 pm 


Khan is higher on the totem pole than Miadana. Miadana is a gatekeeper who slammed the gate down on Broner thats it. Miadana was forced to step aside hold the gate open for Khan smile and welcome him. Khan is a Olympic medalist. As far as someone deserving a fight with Floyd outside of Cotto Floyd has been fighting a bunch of nobodies anyway so whats the difference. Khans in a class with Ortiz, Guerrero and Canelo so really whats the difference.

Posted February 13, 2014 2:39 pm 


Garcia said he is not looking for a Floyd fight. So no matter how much we all say he deserves it, he is not wanting it at the current moment.

Posted February 13, 2014 2:36 pm 


Very well written article by the way.

Posted February 13, 2014 2:16 pm 


Unfortunately, Floyd knows all too well, that once the history books are opened, people won’t care 10, 15, 20 years from now that he cherry picked his opponents, or that he didn’t fight the best of the best.

Posted February 13, 2014 2:07 pm 


Nope I sure don’t, wouldn’t mind it though because apparently those guys make good money and have fun. Would beat sitting at a desk.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:58 pm 


Floyd should send his shoes to Khan, for Khan to clean. If Khan has cleaned them nicely enough, Floyd should say “ok, I’ll put you on the undercard. Now cook my dinner.”

Posted February 13, 2014 1:55 pm 


PEEJ must work on Floyd’s team or something. No other reason to explain it. :)

Posted February 13, 2014 1:52 pm 

Mr gav

Blah blah blah. Froch is fighting groves in a rematch that garuntees explosives my ppv money will go on that rather than khan v mayweather.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:20 pm 


The thing with Maidana is the fact that he has won 5 fights in a row against decent comp at welter and he has a title. That is what makes him a good opponent. Unfortunately his speed will just make him bait for Floyd. But still he deserves the fight more than Khan. There are 3 fighters that deserve a fight and that is Garcia who already said he is not looking for a fight with Floyd, Maidana and the one that is heads and shoulder above everybody is Bradley.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:18 pm 


Im not quite sure who maidana has beat that is world class that makes him a world class welterweight and if he was even mentioned for a Floyd fight before Broner it wouldve been a complete farce and laughed at by everyone, Now that he has beaten an overhyoed lightweight who hadnt betaen anyone but Paulie, in a fight he looked terrible in and it was questionable whether he shouldve got the decision as Paulie outworked him on the night as well and is a fairy puncher, I like Paulie but he is not a toop class fighter and has been well past his best for years so who exactly has maidana beat? Khan beat him fairly easily barring 10 and 11, Alexander beat him easily and so did Kotelnik. Yet another poor article on ESB for me.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:05 pm 


Floyd has fought many HOF fighters, top 10 ranked fighters and fighters that where in the mythical P4P rankings. If you say he is a cherry picker then you also have to agree that any other great fighter from the same era was also a cherry picker. Floyd is the greatest fighter of his generation. Some of the fighters that he has fought have gone on the become the linear champion in a weight class or have gone on to win other titles. His resume speaks for itself.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:03 pm 

Bob Di Nero

Floyd didn’t fight the Pac Man. That’s a big knock to any legacy he’s got.

Posted February 13, 2014 1:02 pm 

Chicken Fraud Mayweather

I disagree. His reputation is set in stone. He will forever be remembered biggest cherry picking serial ducker fraud to lace a pair of gloves up . And despite him serving a “17 year long tenure at the top of the sport” and him being “the face of boxing who every fighter wants a piece of his sweepstakes”, he’ll also he remembered for never having fought a great fighter that in their prime.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:55 pm 


Floyd has missed the boat Heredias ko of Pac robbed Floyd of any chance to be amongst the greats of boxing history. No gut no glory that will be Floyds legacy.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:50 pm 


Like he said, if Arum is out of the picture then the fight can get made. Until then folks should stop talking about it. Pac and company have come out with excuses why the fight didn’t get made and so has Floyd. If Arum is out of the picture and Floyd then comes up with an excuse then we can say there is a problem. But the simple fact that the last time the fight couldn’t be made was because a stadium needed to be built is an issue. Arum needs to remain out of the negotiations and Roach is on record saying he sees no reason why Arum wouldn’t let that happen.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:49 pm 


Floyd hasn’t got long left in the game. Floyd could do his ‘legacy’ the power of good by facing Manny.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:45 pm 


Floyd has missed out on nothing. If that is how you feel then you can say the same thing about Pac not facing Floyd. They have both come up with excuses. Facing GGG is not the answer. First GGG is a middleweight. He is too big. There is no proof he can make 154. Heck he has just been called out by Lara yet there has been no response.

Posted February 13, 2014 12:20 pm 

Mr gav

Floyd’s legacy will be in tact but you could never compare him to the all time greats like Lenard for example. Floyd will remain unbeaten but he has allready missed out by not fighting PAC man, he has a chance to redeem himself if he fights GGG. But mayweather will be more remembered for his money making skills rather than his boxing legacy

Posted February 13, 2014 11:43 am 


It’s only two and half months before fight night, that’s not enough time sell Khan to an outraged boxing community. It has to be Maidana unless Floyd shocks everyone and picks Porter or somebody else.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:26 am 


Legacy of getting super rich off BS talk and safe fights is set. I give him props, but he makes a fool out of all of us when we buy the PPV. A lot of it has to do with the opponent for sure, but FFS, I feel dumb after paying $60 for a stupid undercard and boring one sided beatdown of an overated, has been, hype job, under weight, over weight, or combo of it all. He def got the Money making formula.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:19 am 


Floyd will be lowering himself if he fights the desperate, begging Khan. Floyd and the TV network can generate as much revenue, and keep their self respect, by giving Maidana the shot. I’ll be amazed if Khan gets the fight, he’s inactive and semi-retired and has looked terrible since getting spanked by Danny Garcia. But, we shall see what happens.

Posted February 13, 2014 11:18 am 

Kid Blast

Horrible stuff

Posted February 13, 2014 11:16 am 


Nope, his legacy is already set

Posted February 13, 2014 11:11 am 

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