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Happy Boy,
You do talk crap.
Martinez is fighting Cotto in June, he could have made GGG’g April date if he really wanted it, only I suspect like the other so called middleweight champs they can all think of safer options.
Lara gets killed by Golovkin.

Posted February 13, 2014 2:27 am 


Guess that means Triple fraud will be fighting #11 ranked Andy Lee, to show us how hard he can punch another low tier boxer.

Posted February 13, 2014 2:17 am 


Erislandy Lara 320-10 at 147 and Gennady Golovkin is 342-8 at 160 as an amateur.

Posted February 12, 2014 2:05 pm 


@Supreme Court : “Same reasoning: Floyd is not fighting GGG because of Money”

And you’ll get no argument from me there, nor have I ever said that Mayweather has any obligation to fight Golovkin (though I do agree that a lot of Golovkin fans don’t think the same way).
For the record, I didn’t even think Mayweather had any obligation to fight Canelo (who was also significantly bigger than him). If I’m going to see great fighters lose, I’d rather it be due to an opponent having more skills and general ability, as opposed to just being too big (i.e. I’d get no pleasure watching Bernard Hopkins get the piss beaten out of him by Wlad Klitschko, even though I’m far from a Hopkins fan… or a Wlad fan for that matter!).

You can’t fault Golovkin for chucking Mayweather’s name out there. Martinez did it. Ward did it. Heck, even 175lb Hopkins did it. These fighters know that there’s next to no chance Mayweather will fight them and I don’t think any of them think he’s being unreasonable in turning them down… but people religiously buy lottery tickets with lesser odds of winning than this, so why wouldn’t these guys take a punt at the Mayweather jackpot?

But the fact that you’ve had to divert attention in that way shows me that you actually agree with everything I said previously (whether you choose to admit it or not) coz you weren’t actually able to counter any of it, so… thanks for indirectly admitting it ;)

Posted February 12, 2014 3:47 am 


That’s not an answer!
I’m being serious, one would have to imagine that anyone that posts the same old crap day after day is either mentally deficient, insane or just plain stupid.
It was a yes or no question, I guess it was a bit complicated for you, oh well.

Posted February 12, 2014 2:03 am 


This would be great!

Posted February 12, 2014 1:56 am 

Supreme Court aka Highest Court aka nincompoopcide

Same reasoning: Floyd is not fighting GGG because of Money:
Floyd = + 1, 000, 000 ppvs
GGG = 0 ppv..
How about that?

Posted February 11, 2014 9:17 pm 

E in Denver

Lara also posted a response to Jr’s “poll” on “who is next” Maidana or Khan w/ something along the lines of “only one answer…Lara” on Twitter.

Posted February 11, 2014 4:47 pm 

E in Denver

Why isn’t Jr fighting Lara? They are actually in the same division & both are title holders. Golovkin vs. Lara is a good match up. The only top level guy with the balls to get in with this crop of Cubans was Donaire.

Posted February 11, 2014 4:43 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Oh poor B Red is butt hurt. Funny you show up in the same thread as Supreme Court, who has been virtually absent since he was exposed as SRedmond using a different screen name. Are you SRedmond’s third screen name out of 8? Loser.

Posted February 11, 2014 3:36 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Supreme Court, so you think I’m scared that Golovkin will lose if he fought Lara eh? Are you serious court? No, I’m not afraid of that, not after Angulo gave Lara such a difficult time, if he was able to walk down Lara and put him on the canvas twice then I’m not worried about Golovkin. GGG is faster than Angulo, he’s better at cutting off the ring than Alfredo is, he’s more accurate and he hits harder. That’s about all you need to know about that matchup, it would have been a lot of fun but I was never worried about the outcome. Of course, this is boxing, anything can happen, but I think the only boxer that has a decent chance of beating Golovkin is Ward, Lara is just a little too small to be able to take the big punches from the Kazakh killer.

Posted February 11, 2014 3:01 pm 

E in Denver

WTF happen to my post?

Posted February 11, 2014 12:47 pm 


@Supreme Court – “Why would GGG want to fight a Showtime welter weight in Floyd? Why is he campaigning saying the Showtime Quillin doe not want to fight him? Why? Moron!”

Because of money!
Did you miss where I said that Lara improving his value would make the networks cooperate? Or did you forget to take your ADHD medication and start typing before your brain fired a signal? Has it fired yet? How about now?

Quillin is likley a big enough draw that HBO would pay for a temporary release of contract. Mayweather is probably a pipe-dream but if Mayweather did choose Golovkin, Showtime would pay out HBO to allow the fight to happen.
Heck, if Golovkin became a big enough name (unlikely), the networks would co-promote it (like they will if Mayweather-Pacquiao ever gets made, and like they did with Tyson-Lewis).

Now of course you won’t have understood any of this and will continue to show the world that your IQ is struggling to hit the teens (have those three neuron’s fired yet?), but maybe… just maybe you’ll learn to analyse information and evidence rather than letting the tourettes speak for you.

Posted February 11, 2014 9:18 am 



Posted February 11, 2014 8:38 am 


Seriously… given the reaction here to what Loeffler said, I’m pretty sure at least half of the people on this site are borderline retarded.
Loeffler should’ve just kept it short and sweet. “Lara is contracted to Showtime. HBO won’t approve him.”

I get what Loeffler was saying outside of that, but it seems most people are too simple to understand what it all means.
In order for Lara to fight on HBO, HBO would have to pay Showtime for a temporary (one fight) release of his contract with them (i.e. these networks don’t just let their fighters run around and say “Nah, no worries” when it comes to breaches in contract).
HBO are a business and businesses make money. If Lara can’t generate the money for them to make that transaction with Showtime worthwhile, then they’re simply not going to do it. Heck, they don’t even pay un-contracted fighters if there’s no money in it (remember the Martinez-Zbik fiasco where HBO wouldn’t approve Zbik, only to later approve him for Chavez Jr coz Chavez Jr brought enough money to the table for the challenger to be unimportant?).
Loeffler’s ramble had a good point. If Lara is able to raise his value, then the chances of HBO paying out Showtime suddenly becomes a profitable possibility.

But none of this has anything to do with Golovkin. WTF do you guys expect him to do about it?
You want him to split with HBO and K2, re-negotiate with Showtime and Golden Boy, all to fight a (albeit talented) guy who is challenging him who brings no money and no recognition to the table?
Would you also ask Mayweather to shift back to HBO to fight Tim Bradley? Would you ask Klitschko to drop to Cruiserweight to fight Huck? Would you ask Ward to fight Froch in the UK?
Why aren’t you morons asking Lara to split with Golden Boy and sign up with K2 or Top Rank in order to make the fight do-able on HBO? Since when does the champion have to bend to every whim of the challenger in order to make a fight, especially when said challenger brings no money or recognition to the table?

Posted February 11, 2014 8:22 am 


So now GGG must fight a JMW who was KD twice by Angulo. Angulo who was battered by Kirkland for 5 and 1/2 rounds. Now would you want Angulo or Kirkland to face GGG. Please don’t be foolish. GGG must go up if he seeks challenges instead of picking on smaller guys. We already had a Hagler who feasted on Duran, Hearns and the Mugabe’s please jump to 168lbs. Even if you come down when the Martinez and Quillon’s are no more scared.

Posted February 11, 2014 7:48 am 


but agree with loeffler.
Lara should be floyd next oppenent, no obstacles there exept from floyds cowardness

Posted February 11, 2014 3:31 am 


make the fight!! bst fight right now for golovkin

Posted February 11, 2014 3:28 am 


Are you retarded? Serious question. You give the impression of having very little to say and unfortunately say it often.

Posted February 11, 2014 2:30 am 

Eagle Eyes

Supreme Court, HBO won’t approve Lara, that’s got nothing to do with Golovkin, that’s HBO’s decision. And did you really think that HBO was going to go for a Showtime fighter? Loeffler’s suggestion about fighting Quillin may sound harsh, but it might convince HBO that Lara is serious about getting a fight on their network with Golovkin.

Posted February 11, 2014 2:27 am 

B Red

We will be interested I meant

Posted February 11, 2014 12:34 am 


if the fight can be made, I will fight him no problem. Lara is good boy.

Posted February 11, 2014 12:10 am 

Eagle Eyes

Woop Woop, is there some part of “HBO won’t approve Lara” that you don’t understand. And for the record, you’re no better at writing fiction than you are at debating….. Oh wait, you probably need me to explain that to you as well, it means you suck.

Posted February 10, 2014 11:33 pm 


Hehehe @ Flomos having the audacity to criticize other fighters for ducking. The irony is only lost on them.

Posted February 10, 2014 11:20 pm 

B Red

your the nut slurper swallower chump

Posted February 10, 2014 10:32 pm 

B Red

Fight Aficionado, gtfoh ass crotch

Posted February 10, 2014 10:29 pm 

Fight Aficionado

And BTW I’ve been a Lara fan since before he turned pro and posted about him years before most guys at ESB knew who he was. So don’t try to pull your usual race-baiting card B Red.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:24 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Looks like Bred and BoxRetard — card carrying Floyd nutscack slurpers — are already claiming GGG is ducking less than 48 hours after Lara’s posted at Twitter. Do you think a fight gets signed that fast? If so you are truly retards.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:22 pm 

Woop Woop

More easy excuses from Eagle Eyes. When it is an informal shout out from GGG then in Eagles Eyes that is a legitimate challenge. When another fighter does it to GGG then it is definitely informal and no need to get excited with GGG lack of response. It’s never GGG fault it is always someone elses. Yet it is always GGG opponents fault when GGG doesn’t get his way. What a massive hypocrite. GGG the great pretender but he’ll look great again disposing of the #23 ranked Middleweight. Pffft. When will he accept the numerous offers from legitimate fighters?

Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Not a bad idea. Is Lara willing to go at 160? Because I don’t think GGG would go at 154 for anyone but Floyd. Since that won’t happen and none of the 160 belt holders have any balls I’d like to see this one.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:19 pm 

B Red

K2 Promotions tried to spin it with the Bs. Duckerlovkin doesnt want the fight.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:15 pm 


ok so whats floyds excuse for fighting garbage matchups and ducking more people then i have seen ducked in the history of boxing? floyd nutthuggers feel free to chime in.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:04 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Okay the word is out, this fight will not happen. HBO will not approve Lara for the fight because he is bound to Showtime. There it is, the networks have killed it, it’s not Lara’s fault and it’s not Golovkin’s fault, we can blame the geniuses in the network offices for this one.

Posted February 10, 2014 9:43 pm 


i love this fight to happen.. even if shown in ppv i will watch it.

Posted February 10, 2014 9:16 pm 

Eagle Eyes

So let me get this straight, Lara makes an informal request to fight Golovkin 24 hours ago on twitter and some of you are acting like you’re expecting a press conference by Friday! Just chill out guys, we don’t even know at this point if Lara can make an official offer to the man, after all he may have obligations to Showtime that make the fight impossible. Then there is the issue of Andy Lee, who may have already signed a contract at this point. If Lara and his team are serious then a fight with Golovkin can be made, but it is entirely possible that it may have to wait until this summer.

Posted February 10, 2014 8:48 pm 

B Red

Triple Ducker taking on Andy Lee is beyond garbage

Posted February 10, 2014 8:44 pm 


Khan is BETTER than Andy Lee.

Posted February 10, 2014 8:42 pm 


3g might not want to drop the weight for lara. he might just be willing to do that for floyd. especially if he is anticipating moving up in weight and taking out ward. if he is targeting floyd and ward thats awesome. smoking lara would be awesome too but thats who floyd should be fighting now. but may is gonna fight kahn of all people. thats what u call utter garbage. now lets hear a floyd nuthugger like tumbo rationalize it

Posted February 10, 2014 8:38 pm 

B Red

Triple Ducker hasnt responded to Lara yet?

Posted February 10, 2014 8:16 pm 

Fraud May

boxtradamus- dang.

Posted February 10, 2014 7:51 pm 


Nope. Golovkin is as quiet as a MOUSE just as I predicted. Guess he wants to Chavez Jr. victim Lee instead of a highly SKILLED opponent.

Posted February 10, 2014 7:47 pm 


Any answer from GGG yet???? Guess I need to

Posted February 10, 2014 7:32 pm 

Fraud May

hahaha…make it happen. Angulo got to Lara. GGG will shred Lara to pieces. I would love to pay for that fight.

Posted February 10, 2014 6:51 pm 

Stark in the doghouse

Lara grew from FIGHTING Angulo. His performance against trout was flawless. If Lara were to repeat that performance against Floyd or GGG he would be threat to both. Don’t take me wrong, Floyd will go down as one of the best ever & GGG is the real deal but Lara is no bum. Far from it!

Posted February 10, 2014 6:31 pm 


if angulo stalked lara and had the success he had one has to think 3g could have success. u cant watch angulo vs lara and think lara is not vulnerable to a guy like 3g. but i have to say lara is really walking the walk here. big balls on that dude to be calling out 3g. wonder what old TARK thinks about a potential matchup or gonzo. i would favor 3g myself

Posted February 10, 2014 6:23 pm 

Constantine the Czar

For anyone saying GGG is a great White hype: (a) he isn’t really White as such, more a racial mix from Central Asia, and I dislike the racial garbage that some idiots come up with here to disparage some boxers and (b) he isn’t hype. He’s an undefeated World Champion whom the other best middleweights aren’t too keen to meet, it seems. GGG and the Cuban Erislandy Lara would be a good fight at 154 for sure. I think Lara would test GGG. Mayweather-Lara would be good too, but would Floyd want that one?!?

Posted February 10, 2014 6:07 pm 

big head

two of the most Avoided fighters fighting each other why not make it happen boxer vs puncher the Questions is what weight they going to Fight at i think Lara style can cause ggg some Problems i mean lara is tall and long with good footwork and defense and ring IQ to ggg never Faced a boxer like that so far But if angulo can knock lara down twice and hurt him then just Imagin what ggg will do that the Thing cant lara handle ggg power and ggg is a better fighter then Angulo better boxer Lara going to have to Box a perfect fight for him to Win hit and not get hit

Posted February 10, 2014 3:27 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Ike, “but not Ward or Lara”??? What the heck are you talking about? Golovkin never turned down a Ward fight, because no fight was offered. Golovkin wants to fight Ward and will fight him, I just don’t understand why he’s getting crap from people for wanting to fight Martinez first. Golovkin is a natural middleweight! He deserves the right to establish himself as the dominant fighter at 160. Even Ward gets this, he knows that if Golovkin beats Martinez the stage will be set for a superfight with GGG, the fight will be worth considerably more money if Golovkin is the true middleweight king, and the fight will bring in a massive viewership if it is allowed to build up properly. Ward himself hinted at this in last January when he was first interviewed about the possibility of a Golovkin fight, he knows what can be gained by being patient and he said so at the time. And as for your suggestion that Golovkin might be avoiding Lara I only have one thing to say, are you nuts? Lara tweeted that he would like to fight Golovkin just 24 hours ago! Don’t you think that’s just a wee bit hasty to assume that because the fight hasn’t been signed in the last 23 hours that Golovkin is ducking Lara? Geez man, get a grip.

Posted February 10, 2014 3:21 pm 


If GGG calls someone out then he will have to compromise to their demands. Lara called him out so why should GGG have to drop weight to help Lara out. You called me out, you fight at my weight. Same situation with Ward/Dawson.

Posted February 10, 2014 3:19 pm 


Lara got balls. GGG would stop him. Lara gets caught too much, his cuban style and slick boxing skills is nothing new to GGG who fought better and bigger cubans all through his amateur career and beat most of them. Lara will take a tremendous beating but I applaud him for trying to fight the best!
Lara beats Floyd at 154 IMO. Too big, enough skills.

Posted February 10, 2014 3:18 pm 


I am a Golovkin fan. GGG’s people are trying to keep him active and undefeated vs. lesser foes until a fight with Sergio Martinez finally materializes. However, you can’t say I’ll fight anyone between 154-168 lbs. and then say, “but not Ward or Lara”. I think he’s beat Lara, but it would not be easy. Either you’re the man or you’re not. It’s time to put up or shut up. I would love to see this fight.

Posted February 10, 2014 2:34 pm 

Sant Flores

EAGLE EYES very well said!!
Thank you

Posted February 10, 2014 2:00 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Stilltoomuchsaltonthebrain, you might want to try and watch some of his fights before you comment, that might help. So he gets hit way too much does he???? Let’s see about that, Stevens landed about 90 punches against Golovkin in 8 rounds in a fight that saw both fighters throw a total of 1100 combined punches! Golovkin landed 293, but somehow Golovkin gets hit a lot? Sure, whatever you say. And then there’s the Adama fight, yeah he peppered Golovkin with a barrage of 44 punches over seven rounds, oh my god, why didn’t they stop the carnage? Ha, GTFOH! Golovkin hardly gets hit at all, look at his stats, look at his fights, and look at his face, he barely looks as if he has been in a fight at all. At least he didn’t get hit as much in that fight as Ward did when he fought Bika.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:53 pm 

Sant Flores

Abel Sanchez PLEASE once and for all take the Lara fight or Ward now so we can shut these ignorant critics up, I hope you read this Abel and GGG !!
Thank you

Posted February 10, 2014 1:46 pm 

Sant Flores

Shut your trap let the fighting talk, soon we will know but for now just shut up !!! By the way GGG is P4P best no doubt.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:41 pm 


GGG is a BUM yall will see, Stop asking him to fight smaller guys and ask him to fight guys in the division or move up.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:35 pm 


Yall Great white hype wont except this, because he knows and everyone else that knows boxing knows he is a FAKE. Even worse than Canelo. He gets hit waaaaaay to much.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:32 pm 


@Happyboy – “he was busy yelling for another bum ( excuse me, just thrash talk) in Andy Lee while Ward ieven Froch are still available and have no fight scheduled anytime soon.”

Andy Lee was only one of three offers… it’s not like he was singled out alone.
And nobody is saying that the Lara fight won’t happen. It’s just that Lara is late to the table given that the potential opponent lists were apparently being drawn up even prior to the Adama fight, and why would Team Golovkin have necessarily thought a guy with a supposed mandatory shot at Mayweather would be willing to risk that for a Golovkin fight?
But who knows, maybe Lara will get the fight. Maybe he’ll be front-runner for Golovkin’s next fight (GGG fights regularly so the possibility is there). It’s too early to say it will or won’t happen.

As for Ward and other SMWs, I do believe those fights happen in either late 2014 or early 2015. It likely depends on whether Martinez goes back on his word about fighting Golovkin in late-2014.
Nobody is saying these fights shouldn’t happen, we’re pointing out that it’s disappointing if they needed to happen now given that Golovkin hasn’t yet had the chance to clean out his own division.

The point is, it is massively one-eyed to blame it all on Golovkin… so one-eyed that I’m worried you’ll all grow parrots out of your shoulders and a peg legs.
Why can’t you and the other detractors just acknowledge that the dude is being ducked and place the blame where it should be? You’re essentially being “ducking enablers”… you’re putting Golovkin at fault for guys like Quillin and Martinez avoiding him, when you should be pointing out how these guys are robbing us of the fights we all want to see, and robbing us of closure in the division’s “who is best” stakes!

I think back to past “ducked” fighters.
I remember Paul Williams at welterweight… he ended up having to move up in weight to get meaningful fights as Golovkin may end up having to do, but I don’t recall anyone acting like it was Williams’ fault that he couldn’t get a high-calibre fight in his first 36 bouts. In fact, “the most feared fighter” and “most avoided fighter” virtually became his nicknames. Mayweather was accused of ducking him, Cotto was accused of ducking him, but nobody blamed Williams.

Likewise I remember Winky Wright being avoided. The only thing that saved him was Mosley getting the titles off of ODLH (and one thing I’ll credit Mosley for is that he never turned away from a legitimate challenge). And again, I don’t recall anyone blaming Wright as if he was somehow at fault… all eyes were turned very definitively at ODLH for ducking. Nobody said to Wright “It’s your fault you can’t get a fight. Go fight Hopkins!” (which he eventually did anyway).

So I’m failing to understand how Golovkin gets so much flack for other fighters in his division not wanting to fight him. It makes about as much sense as a cowboy eating noodles on Saturn.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:23 pm 

Stark in the doghouse

Tumbo – I wasn’t impressed with GGG at first. It took a few bouts. He doesn’t look explosive or fast but he’s powerful & knows how to direct that power if that makes sense. It was like that for me on Ward. There are some boxers that don’t attract your eye. That sounds weird! But you realize how effective they are.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:08 pm 

Stark in the doghouse

Yeah, good points. It could go the way u described but I have a feeling things could pop off. It may be like rigo vs donaire, flashes of action. U gotta believe Lara would be up for this bout. It would change his life 180 degrees.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:53 pm 


Floyd has fought a few slick fighters and the fights where entertaining. I am not really talking from an entertaining stand point. I am merely talking from he does not look interested. He didn’t look interested with Vanes, look how Andrade beat him, when he fought Molina he didn’t look interested. Has 2 draws on his record and he has never rectified any of those. I already knew how the Trout fight was gonna go so it was no surprise. If him and Floyd fought it would be a fight that nobody would care to watch since both are counter punchers and since Floyd is smaller he may wait on Lara to lead, we know Lara is not really interested in leading to much. He wants to counter punch also.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:44 pm 

Stark in the doghouse

That’s his style though. His performance against trout was slick. When’s the last time Floyd has fought someone slick. He just challenged a big puncher.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:34 pm 


His fights are exactly exciting. Him against Molina or Vanes. Those fights where not exciting, him against Trout. Just because you call someone out does not make you exciting. And its not even that he is not exciting, it is more to the fact that he seem disinterested in actually clearly winning a fight.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:27 pm 

Stark in the doghouse

Peej – whoever fights Floyd is going to get a lot of fans. Of course maidana & khan will bring more. I’d rather see Lara vs Floyd. Maidana vs Floyd could turn out to be boring. Another potential schooling by Floyd.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:20 pm 

Stark in the doghouse

Lara may just be one of the most exciting boxers right now just by challenging GGG.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:17 pm 


Actually you are wrong there. I have no issues with a Floyd vs Lara fight. Problem is there is no big money in the fight. Lara has no fans and does not sell well.

Posted February 10, 2014 11:55 am 

Macho Gabacho

GGG would be smart to move down to 154 and take Lara up on his challenge. The winner would be in a great position to campaign for a big payday vs Floyd. Golovkin could still move back up to middleweight to fight the winner of Martinez vs Cotto, and even Ward sometime next year, if he’s still fighting then. This is his chance to put him in the position for big money, big fights and, if he’s successful, secure his place as one of the elites in boxing today. Or he could fight Lee…

Posted February 10, 2014 11:53 am 


Floyd Mayweather champion at 154

Erisandy Lara champion at 154

Both Al Haymon fighters

Both fight on Showtime

Everybody considers Lara Mayweather’s greatest threat below 160

The fans want him to fight Lara or Pacquiao

But Pacquiao is way past prime, Mayweather has feasted on far too many past prime has beens already.

Lara is in his prime and presents a serious threat

But Mayweather and his fans want no part of Lara.

Posted February 10, 2014 11:39 am 


If I was in Golovkin’s camp, it would take a lot of money to get me to take Lara instead of Lee.

Posted February 10, 2014 11:37 am 


Everything I am reading says he has strong network ties to HBO, no contract has been mentioned.

Posted February 10, 2014 11:35 am 


This would at least be an interesting fight. Rosado gave GGG some problems at the begging by boxing him, and Lara is aces above Rosado in the skills department. He can’t get tagged by Golovkin like he did with Angulo, though, or it’s lights out.

Posted February 10, 2014 11:33 am 


Sounds good to me

Posted February 10, 2014 11:08 am 


Ok well if he is then he is. So now folks can stop talking about him and Floyd or any other Golden Boy fighter. So he is not actually being ducked by anybody. There aren’t many 160 pound fighters that are HBO fighters.

Posted February 10, 2014 11:05 am 

B Red

@Bears, go back to your trailer park and fornicate with your sister chump

Posted February 10, 2014 10:59 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

Edit> This was said just a week ago

Posted February 10, 2014 10:58 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

This was said just a weak. ROFL. HBO has EXCLUSIVE rights to all his US fights from here on in. ROFL

Gabe Montoya: ”Does Golovkin have any lateral movement? Is he strictly an HBO fighter?”

Steve Kim: ”Yes. He is. I don’t think there’s any other way to say it. He is an HBO fighter. They have absolutely made him a pillar. He’s just like the Game of Thrones. He’s just like Girls. Or he’s just like True Detective. He will only be seen on HBO and the bottom line is HBO made it very clear to me, two things. What happened this weekend (the Adama fight not being shown on HBO) will no happen regardless of where he fights. When he fights it will be televised by HBO they just have top find a bigger venue this time around. And second of all, anytime he fights it will be exclusively on HBO. And that is a fact of life that they are dealing with each other.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:57 am 


Lara v GGG is a good fight. Gennady will be too strong in the end.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:56 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

We’re taking about now you imbecile. ROFL. The contract as it stands now. ROFL. He is contracted to HBO. He’s one of the jewel’s in their crown. They’re not going to allow him to fight on their greatest rival’s network who they’re embroiled in a fierce war with.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:55 am 


And Sanchez has stated that he is not contracted to HBO so it would be no problem making a fight with Floyd.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:52 am 


Too small

Posted February 10, 2014 10:51 am 


Actually no I read the first 3 lines and then when I scrolled down to actually see how long it was I stopped. I don’t have time to read your nonsense all the time. Especially when it goes on like that. I post from work so I actually have work to do. I did read your last lame post because it wasn’t a novel, it was actually a comment. Which is what is actually supposed to be posted on here. Thanks for complying.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:51 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe


”GGG is not contracted to HBO so there should be no issue of him fighting once on showtime.”

Posted February 9, 2014 11:08 am

Dan Rafael

There’s a reason he is must-see TV, even if HBO blew it on this fight and did not work out a deal to show the fighter who is under contract to the network and has become one of it’s cornerstone fighters (and best ratings draws)”

When HBO, which has exclusive broadcast rights to Golovkin’s fights in North America

Posted February 10, 2014 10:50 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe


”Ward never said he could make 160 to fight Floyd. That was Hopkins.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:08 am

‘But now Ward himself has come out in the public and challenged Mayweather to a catch-weight fight at 160-pounds. Mayweather has never fought higher than 154, but Ward is willing to drain his body to head eight pounds south. Mayweather defends his title against Ward’s close friend, Robert Guerrero, on May 4th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Ward stated on the social networks – “Lil Floyd says he spars middleweights. He is the only man I will sacrifice coming to 160 for. He won’t take that bait!!!”


Posted February 10, 2014 10:49 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

Translation: You read every word and even vegetable brain compulsive simpleton you know there’s no comeback or wriggling out from that kind of savage ownage. ROFL at you thinking that EVERYONE is going to be too stupid to realize how badly you just got embarrassed. You’re banking on them not being able to read and being as stupid as you are. LMFAO.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:47 am 


Stopped reading your lame post after looking and seeing you are posting novels. Comments dude not novels. Idiot.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:32 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

Gabe Montoya: ”Does Golovkin have any lateral movement? Is he strictly an HBO fighter?”

Steve Kim: ”Yes. He is. I don’t think there’s any other way to say it. He is an HBO fighter. They have absolutely made him a pillar. He’s just like the Game of Thrones. He’s just like Girls. Or he’s just like True Detective. He will only be seen on HBO and the bottom line is HBO made it very clear to me, two things. What happened this weekend (the Adama fight not being shown on HBO) will no happen regardless of where he fights. When he fights it will be televised by HBO they just have top find a bigger venue this time around. And second of all, anytime he fights it will be exclusively on HBO. And that is a fact of life that they are dealing with each other.

ROFL Clueless dog-brained vegetable destroyed yet again. Now watch him try to deny that black is black and white is white. LMFAO.

Posted February 10, 2014 10:31 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe


”GGG is not contracted to HBO so there should be no issue of him fighting once on showtime.”

Posted February 9, 2014 11:08 am

Dan Rafael

”Golovkin hasn’t heard the final bell since an eight-round decision win over Amar Amari in 2008. That means he has knocked out all 10 challengers he has faced in his title defenses.

There’s a reason he is must-see TV, even if HBO blew it on this fight and did not work out a deal to show the fighter who is under contract to the network and has become one of it’s cornerstone fighters (and best ratings draws)”

When HBO, which has exclusive broadcast rights to Golovkin’s fights in North America, initially said it wouldn’t have room for Golovkin in its February schedule, K2 promoter Tom Loeffler made a deal with South African promoter Rodney Berman to put on the Monte Carlo fight, just as he had for Golovkin-Ishida”


Posted February 10, 2014 10:29 am 

The Burner

The amount of Lazy Journalism that surrounds boxing never ceases to amaze me. According to this writing Stevens would knock lee out in 3 rounds!! While Andy isnt elite I fancy that a fight between him and Stevens would be far from a 3 round blow out as this “esteemed” author suggests. I saw another Author on this site informing people that Lee has a weak chin! On what planet does Andy Lee have a weak chin? He has never been on the canvas in his pro career. His defences are terrible but his chin is solid.

Posted February 10, 2014 9:58 am 


I had a similiar argument when Adrien Broner was being considered as the next best thing, rated in the P4P rating and him ranting about being a 3 division champion. I pointed out that I was not yet convinced of his worth/ value due to his poor resume as compared with other 3 division champions of the past and present. His talent was not in question just how reall good was he compared to better competition

Posted February 10, 2014 9:56 am 


Cheezeboy – I believe you are the master of your own destiny, GGG is not doing himself any favours by taking a route considred easier by begging Geale three times to fight him while Ward is available and is high risk yet high reward type of fight. With his amateur pedigree he should have long gone after Ward when Martine and the rest were not willing to fight him. Let us lso remember that if he fights Lara, it was Lara who had the guts to challenge him not the other way around, he was busy yelling for another bum ( excuse me, just thrash talk) in Andy Lee while Ward ieven Froch are still available and have no fight scheduled anytime soon.

Posted February 10, 2014 9:44 am 


@Happyboy – too much to quote :P

Okay, leaving the record point aside as we’re clearly not going to agree on it (i.e. you seem to look at fighters from a legacy point of view, I look at fighters more from a direct who would beat who at this time point of view)… we’re still coming back to the “why doesn’t he fight XYZ” point and it’s still fairly clearly showing that it’s not a case of “why doesn’t he fight XYZ” as much as “how does he land a fight with XYZ”.
Again, Ward is an option and if nothing eventuates at 160 soon, I’d say it’s his only opportunity.

But as I pointed out, other fighters have been given options that just haven’t been made available to Golovkin.
Rigo as mentioned before was very, very lucky to get his shot and there was literally nothing else out there for him… if he didn’t get/take that shot, he pretty much didn’t get anything (i.e. if GBP and TR couldn’t come to terms on Donaire-Mares, they sure as hell weren’t going to do it for Rigo-Mares).
Sure, maybe GGG should have gone the route of Lomachenko or Duran and tried to dive straight into title shots. Maybe being so raw, the divisional champions would have been more open to fighting him… but hindsight is 20/20 and I don’t think he owns a time machine.
The other guys you mention simply had opportunities that weren’t and aren’t available to Golovkin. These guys had old, washed up, ex-champs and the like hanging around that were available to build a name off of. Golovkin has tried to enact mandatory obligations with current champions of the time as well as tried to fight still-relevent-ex-champs (i.e. Geale) and they simply won’t fight him.
He can’t make opponents appear that don’t exist, or force fighters to jump in the ring if they don’t want to fight.

And agreed, he’s old for his position in boxing and it’d be good if he were further ahead. But that doesn’t for one second have any bearing on how good a fighter he is at this instant.

I guess overall, my issue is that those who are pro-Golovkin and those who are anti-Golovkin (so to speak) both want to see him in against better opponents. Yet only the pro-Golovkin lot are willing to put pressure on opponents to fight.
For example, when the Martinez-Cotto threads start to become more prevalent, you watch the pro-GGG types posting that the winner should fight Golovkin. Then watch the anti-GGG types turn around and say “who has he fought?” or “he doesn’t deserve a shot”.
Both sides of the debate should be putting pressure on Golovkin’s potential opponents to stop dancing around the issue and make the fights happen. Anyone who says Martinez (or any other top fighter) doesn’t have to fight Golovkin is part of the problem and simply creating a self-fulfilling prophesy (i.e. “Golovkin sucks coz he hasn’t fought XYZ” -> “XYZ doesn’t have to fight Golovkin… who the hell has Golovkin fought?” -> “Golovkin sucks coz he hasn’t fought XYZ” -> rinse and repeat)

Posted February 10, 2014 9:30 am 


Auzbox – my point here is your record is the measuring stick that will be used long when you gone. Great Wallaby teams from days of Nick Farr Jones, Michel Lynagh, Campo, Timy Horan, Walter Little to that of Georgie Gregan, Larkham, Burke, George Smith were measured on their perfomances against the Kiwis, Springbok not Italy and Argentina. Ga’day mate!

Posted February 10, 2014 9:29 am 


You South African happ? Sad about Mandela one of the greatest ever to have feet on this earth. Should be a great couple of tests. Speed on speed

Posted February 10, 2014 9:22 am 


Brace yourself for the whipping our proteas are gonna hand your boys her at home in a few days.

Posted February 10, 2014 9:18 am 


There not going to well at the moment, the union boys

Posted February 10, 2014 9:12 am 


Auzbox – the Wallabies, mate.

Posted February 10, 2014 9:11 am 


@FEARS – “I think he beats everyone at 160, besides Quillin which would be a pick-em fight. Martinez of 5 years ago would destroy GGG…”

Agreed he needs to step up competition, but as I’ve said, I don’t believe it’s his fault that it hasn’t happened (by all accounts it looks like he’s been trying to do just that for years now).

On Quillin, no way, dude. Rosado walked down Quillin and looked pretty good in doing it, so imagine what Golovkin would do to him. Unless Quillin had some injury or something that we’re not aware of, then I can’t see him beating Golovkin or even coming close.

Martinez on the other hand, I’m not sure.
The thing with him is that he never had an easy time with guys who were relentless (aside from the second Williams fight where Wililams decided he’d block with his head, whereas Martinez had decided he’d be smarter and wasn’t about to have another chin-checker war like the last).
People forget that he didn’t do it easily against Pavlik and we don’t know where Kelly’s head was at. Martinez was also taken out by Margarito.
The weakness I see in him now was always there, it just wasn’t as easy to capitalise on in the past.
He baits for the straight counter. If a fighter is wary of the punch, then Martinez has a chance to relax afterwards and reset himself. Guys like Pavlik, Williams and Margarito aren’t the types to back down… if you counter them, they’ll throw right back and this was why Martinez struggled with them, and it’s exactly what Golovkin would do (though I’d say he does it with better precision and improved defence).

More recently the same weakness has shown. Murray showed it from behind his high-guard (i.e. he refused to step back when Martinez threw the counter and thus was in position to fire straight back). Likewise in Round 12, Chavez stopped looking like a stunned mullet and started letting his hands go (i.e. not letting Martinez just throw his shot and get away).

So I’d argue that even a prime Martinez would have a nightmare time in the ring with Golovkin. I’d have picked Golovkin to win, but I wouldn’t have put money on it (unless the odds were big :)).

Posted February 10, 2014 9:09 am 


Happy who wins GGG or ward?

Posted February 10, 2014 9:07 am 


Cheezeboy – fair point however my argument points out the fact that your record is the reflection of your ability, you tell me what else besides your record determines a fighters worth. At 32 yrs of age just what stage of his development is he when other boxers ( Rigondeaux ) with similiar background have taken the risky fights, Donaire is considered big and elite at his weight like Ward yet Rigo challenged him and proved his worth, Lomachenko will be fighting a champion in his 2nd pro fight, Duran won a title on his 3rd fight, Mayweather was 21 when he won vs a respectable champ in Hernandez & beat top tier Manfredy next, Canelo at 23 was a champion with wins over Mosley and Trout, Swift Garcia at 25 is achampion with resume with Holt, Morales, Khan, Campbell, Judah and Matthyse.GGG at 32 with an emaculate amateur record, a pro title belt, 29 fights and 10 defenses is still considreded PROMISING, pleeeeze. At 34yrs SRL was considred over the hill with 35 fights yet a host of top tier fighter, champions and HOFmers in his resume.

Posted February 10, 2014 8:49 am 


BEARS-Before you use that noose on someone else, try it on yourself to make sure it works!
Cheezb-You’ve made a good case for your boy GGG, and I agree with most of what you said. GGG is definitely not ready for Ward, and probably never will be, but he should clean out 160 before he gets beaten by Ward. Now is definitely the time to step up his opposition if he wants to warrant the credit many of you are trying to give him. Personally, I think he beats everyone at 160, besides Quillin which would be a pick-em fight. Martinez of 5 years ago would destroy GGG, but now GGG would be too much for an aging Maravilla to handle. He needs to make this Lara fight happen, because there is no excuse he can use that won’t make him look scared of the 154 pounder. Once again, I see this as a pick-em fight.

Posted February 10, 2014 8:18 am 


@Happyboy – “I hear you my goodman however GGG is a champion with 10 defenses to his name yet he has no top tier boxer in his resume.”

And I don’t disagree that the other guys have better resumes. What I’m arguing is that it doesn’t mean that they’re better fighters. And I’m also saying that Golovkin’s resume is no fault of his own.

Let’s look at the guys you mentioned. Canelo brings a good payday to the table so of course he’s going to have willing challengers… though frankly, prior to the Trout fight his resume could be dismissed as easily (or easier) than Golovkin’s (i.e. did he fight any career jnr middle who could’ve been definitively claimed to have been better than Macklin is as a middlweight, for example?)
Danny Garcia gets good fights because he looks beatable… Matthysse was the hot favourite to beat him on these forums.
And as with Garcia, Bradley gets good fights because he looks beatable. People don’t respect his punching power and so believe they can beat him. Nobody steps into the ring with fear of Bradley.

Now imagine if Golovkin was a middleweight equivalent of Bradley. A light-punching but technically good fighter. Do you honestly think he’d have as much trouble finding a fight as what he’s been having? Do you think Sturm would have ducked him (remember that Sturm had no problems with agreeing to fight Geale who in a way could be seen as a MW Bradley in terms of being a durable, light-punching volume puncher)?

It’s all well and good to say that Golovkin should fight Ward, but it’s a massive risk at this stage of his career and I can understand why he (and no other fighter in his position) would be too keen.
A loss to Ward prior to cleaning out the MW division runs the risk of leaving Golovkin labelled as an “exposed bum”. If he can’t get a fight at MW now, he’ll never get a fight at MW with that label (even against guys he’d easily blow out).
Add to that the fact that his chances of beating Ward at this moment are relatively slim. The size factor is only one issue (i.e. GGG is a relatively small MW, whereas Ward, although not big, is a good sized SMW) whereby Golovkin could foreseeably lose based on being smaller as opposed to less talented.
The bigger issue is that as it stands, Golovkin has no bargaining power in terms of bringing the fight to neutral territory. Ward has shown that he’s not opposed to clinching and wrestling if it’s needed in order to win a fight, and if the fight were to go as I’d imagine (i.e. I’d be picking Golovkin to sting Ward a few times early, after which Ward would take a hit-and-hold, rough-and-tumble strategy to cruise to a UD/SD), then Golovkin needs a ref that won’t allow Ward to clinch. At this stage of his career, Golovkin doesn’t have the clout to enforce that.
It’s one of those fights where personally I’d rather Golovkin clean out 160 and establish himself such that a fight with Ward is guaranteed to be on fair ground and we can clearly see who is the better fighter (and frankly, age is on Ward’s side in this scenario).

As for Lara, I’d rather see Golovkin fight a good MW (i.e. was hoping for Geale) but I do believe Lara would be a good fight for him (and possibly a good “training fight” for a later Martinez match). I’m just realistic enough to know that afterwards people will just say “he beat a smaller guy”.

Posted February 10, 2014 7:10 am 


in regards to 3g its transparent. word and tape gets around. 3g is no secret in the pro boxing circuit. clowns trying to write him off. and question him are just that CLOWNS. a stoppage % NEVER LIES. i have not seen ONE instance in ALL of pro boxing where the stoppage % is misleading. the BEASTLYNESS is undeniable at this juncture in fact the nature of 3g beastly acuity is historically unprecedented! in short i understand your fear hateful soul brothers. i look forward to the day u see in color not in black and white.

Posted February 10, 2014 4:55 am 


lol at these black dudes trying to convince themselves they should not be afraid of the tide. its not just 3g u know that dont u black supremists? u have seen the heavyweights and kovalev. u have heard the name LOMACHENKO. u have watched mathyse canelo and pacman.

happyboy seems a lot like sred. maybe just like minded afro brothers. i dont know andni dont care. im tired of racially motivated whites AND COLORED folks. dudes give it a rest. grow up. proud afro, prince, sred, happyboy, bred, who knows if your the same but one things for sure a weirdo black dude resides behind these tags in include peej in that list.

u turds should be showing the fear of 3g your showing. monody you have EVER SUPPORTED looked as promising as 3g. lara? beating 3g? seriously? have u watched the tape? obviously my money is on 3g. now let me get back to this new season of sherlock. turns out he is not dead! love this show. have to watxh it online since im an american. these haters are such a shame. every hater must realize every boxer is a part of the game. a part of the game we love. i try to remember that when i think of turds like floyd. i have to thoroughly examine objectively to find the good related to boxing about him

Posted February 10, 2014 4:47 am 

Triple G

@happyboy. Because, I only fight smaller fighters, and I would never fight
People with a pulse like Ward , Froch, Pascal, Bute Kesslar, Stevenson,I only
Fight welterweights or C- rated fighters.

Posted February 10, 2014 3:39 am 


BTW Mayweather has not weighed a day above 150lbs, why bother with him when Ward whose #2P4P and is only 8lbs away?

Posted February 10, 2014 3:11 am 


I rest my case, call me when this guy fights somebody.

Posted February 10, 2014 3:07 am 


My point is if GGG wants to be recognised as the next big thing, it is high time he challenges someone like Ward instead of bottom tiers like Adama, Stevens or Andy Lee.Lara will be a nice try. Ward is 3yrs younger, 27 fights but has Dawson, Froch, Kessler in his resume and is only 8lbs away from the so called great GGG.

Posted February 10, 2014 3:06 am 


Cheezeboy – I hear you my goodman however GGG is a champion with 10 defenses to his name yet he has no top tier boxer in his resume. So when you compare him with other champions who had as many defenses he comes up terribly short infact if you compare him to Bradley’s resume Dessertstorm is miles ahead of him. Bradley is only 2yrs younger, with only 2 more fights than GGG yet his resume ( Marquez, Provodnikov, Pac, Casamayor, Peterson, Witter, Campbell, Holt & Alexander. Which is why his rated in the P4P ratings while GGG is nowhere. Take even Danny Garcia’s resume, hell even Canelo Alvarez has a better resume.

Posted February 10, 2014 2:54 am 


@Happyboy – “in sport, your resume/competition is a true measure of your ability and if you don’t know that…”

I’d agree with you if we were talking about tennis. In tennis (or golf or just about any sport that isn’t boxing), you’re forced to compete with the top tier. It’s completely unavoidable.
In boxing as we’re getting far too used to seeing, it is not even unusual for the top-tier fighters to avoid each other. For that reason, a fighter’s resume is only a “true measure” if they’ve fought every other top-tier fighter… the minute there is a blank space, it’s just another variable to chuck on the stack.

Take the welterweights for example. If all you look at is resume, then you’re simply not allowed to have an opinion on who the best welter is. Pacquiao and Mayweather’s resumes are pretty comparable, and Bradley’s is arguably weaker. The only way you can come to a clear-ish evaluation is to imagine what would happen if these fighters all stepped in the ring with each other.
A lot point out things like “Mayweather demolished Marquez so he’s better than Pacquiao”, yet ignore that Bradley also beat Marquez (i.e. stating that Pacquiao is better than Bradley), and also somehow wouldn’t carry that same logic across to “Martinez struggled with Macklin, yet Golovkin completely trounced him”.

So with Golovkin, we’re taking the “imaginary fight” variable as valuable, because Golovkin’s record isn’t indicative of his talent (i.e. much like Rigo pre-Donaire) and it’s due to no fault of his own (in fact, is in spite of his efforts to make better fights).
It’s far from an exact science, but it’s the best you can hope to do until fights actually get made… you simply look at his style & abiltiies, match it against others’ styles & abilities and imagine who would win. You can be wrong for sure, but in these scenarios it’s a far more accurate premise than just relying on records.

Posted February 10, 2014 2:33 am 


If Julian Jackson landed his righthand as Adama did occassionally, GGG would be a gonna

Posted February 10, 2014 2:31 am 


Roy Jones would have made him a joke. What about James Toney? Pfft

Posted February 10, 2014 2:29 am 


Bulawayo – GGG would have his plate full with Mike ” The body snatcher” MacCullum or even Nigel Benn.Hell I would not give him against Hopkins at middleweight.

Posted February 10, 2014 2:27 am 


Like all boxers who have showed potential until you fight a live opponent, the jury is still out. For example Ali proved his with the Liston, Floyd with Hernandez, SRL with Benitez, Mosley with ODH, Pac with Barrera, GGG has 10 defenses yet not one top contender nor a champion.

Posted February 10, 2014 2:21 am 


Supreme Court,
By no stretch of the imagination am I comparing the quality of the four I mentioned against the last four Golovkin fought. But one of the main criticisms of GGG is that he always fights smaller guys, not true!
So I repeat all of Haglers biggest wins came against smaller guys!
I think GGG beats Hearns with ease, he was a bit chinny. Leonard middle to late round stoppage, Mugabi, great fight whilst it lasted, just as it was against Marvin, but Golovkins boxing skills too much.
Hagler points win for GGG.

Posted February 10, 2014 2:20 am 


Farmboxer , agree I wish wilder would have fought someone who can punch and is at least higher ranked then Malik scot someone like Amir monsour… Why not him???

Posted February 10, 2014 2:11 am 


Supreme Court how is sredmond doing ?

Posted February 10, 2014 2:08 am 


Golovkin’s main goal is to get a fight with Martinez. Geale turned him down, Sturm, no way, Quillin turned him down, Kirkland turned him down, etc. So, how can Golovkin make those fighters fight him? He can’t hold a gun on them and make them fight. Some posters think that Golovkin can get anyone in the world to fight him at the snap of a finger, but not so. If Golovkin were to knock Lara out, the haters would just say, well, he wasn’t a middleweight, not ranked at 160, etc., the same old crap. The same people who hate Golovkin, Kovalev, Lomochenko, Klitschkos, etc., are the same ones who are claiming that Wilder is the greatest fighter in boxing history, read some of their comments. Wilder faster than Ali, Wilder’s defense better than Mayweather, Leonard, etc., harder puncher than Foreman, best chin in boxing history, the best balance, etc., yet I do not see Wilder fans calling for him to fight someone ranked. Wilder should fight Jennings, Pulev, Perez, Adamek, but instead he is fighting an unranked fighter by the name of Scott. How did Scott qualify? Scott got knocked out by Chisora, that’s how. Wilder refused to fight Chisora, Thompson, Fury, etc.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:57 am 


Cheezeb you are 100% correct !

Posted February 10, 2014 1:56 am 


Cheezeboy – in sport, your resume/competition is a true measure of your ability and if you don’t know that…

Posted February 10, 2014 1:51 am 

Stark in the doghouse

If Lara boxes the way he did against trout, golovkin will need to swiftly cut off the ring. This could be a very interesting match-up. I hope golovkin secures this bout. It can become exciting. What I’m drawing is that Lara has a chance.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:46 am 


Cheeseboy – again, I never said GGG is a bum simply that he needs to step it up a few notches. At 32yrs old, a title, 29 fights and 10 defenses one would think his aiming at top contenders and champions by now.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:43 am 

Eagle Eyes

Cheezb, perfectly stated.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:38 am 


Adrian – no, will say he beat a 154lbs champion.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:33 am 

Mike tyson

GGG is unusual as he look very light and small to be 165 lb and he not muscular at all.
He just has ols style Korean and Russian blood. From the sticks you are stronger stock in the family line. Only him ate fast food LOl.. Compare to 3 generation of other fighters. He look like he only 149 lb my weight and 6″2 my hight.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:33 am 


@Happyboy – “Rigondeaux busted up an elite Flash in 12 fights.”

You’re not wrong but it doesn’t change a thing. Prior to Rigo fighting Donaire, what was everyone saying?
They were pointing out his age, how he’d only “fought bums”, claiming his amateur prowess counted for nothing and that Donaire was going to obliterate him. He then went ahead and put on an absolute clinic against a guy who was high on many people’s P4P list.
The point is that the smarter fans knew that Rigo was the goods even before putting Donaire’s scalp on his resume (i.e. knew he’d at least be very, very competitive), because they’d analysed the fights he’d had. The unintellectual masses however were far too busy scouring boxrec thinking that Rigo was only as good as his past fights.

Golovkin is currently in the same position as Rigo was prior to Donaire. We’re watching him and analysing based on the skills he’s shown so far, and interestingly, every Golovkin fan I know is as keen to see him in a competitive fight as his detractors. Nobody is trying to protect this guy (unlike fans of some other fighters I can think of).

The other point is that Rigo was very, very lucky to get the Donaire fight. It was only fan pressure (applied directly to Donaire), Donaire putting pressure directly on Bob Arum and the fact that Mares was with Golden Boy that begrudgingly got Rigo the fight. He very nearly ended up another Golovkin… a fighter with talent who nobody is willing to fight.
I figure if people put as much pressure on Martinez as we did Donaire, then maybe he’ll actually make the fight.

Overall, you have to be awesomely one-eyed to not acknowledge that Golovkin is being avoided (i.e. Mundine, Sturm, Geale have actively ducked obligations with him, Martinez and Quillin have hidden behind all sorts of excuses, though Martinez did say he’d do a fight late in 2014 so hopefully that comes off… then others like Murray have also shown a keen disinterest in making the fight actually happen).
And if your sole way of judging a fighter is based on their resume, then I’m sorry to say you DKSAB.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:32 am 


And when ggg takes the fight with Lara and tkfo him you ggg haters will say “he beat no one”

Ha ha ha

Posted February 10, 2014 1:32 am 

Stark in the doghouse

Happy boy – post a a few more threads & then get to be bed. You’ll miss the schoolbus again like u did last week……….jk! your username invited that one!

Posted February 10, 2014 1:24 am 

Stark in the doghouse

I give huge props to Lara for challenging golovkin. This would be a monumental opportunity for Lara. He would have to be close to flawless to beat golovkin.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:20 am 


Don King was the devil but he put on good events with good undercards, Arum has been robbing Pinoys and Pactards with rematches and careful matchmaking. Boxing?

Posted February 10, 2014 1:16 am 


GGG put everyone from 154-174 on notice and was ready to make 154 against Floyd. Lara is in the 154 division, so let GGG go down if he’s a man of his words(I don’t care who said it in his camp as he approves of it). Lara has all the tools to box GGG’s ears off, styles make fight. Claiming GGG was banging up HWs but once Ward showed interest he quickly turned his attention to his division that shows a lack of character and the fact that GGG is all smoke and no fire. He’s got a challenger let him make the fight but if he doesn’t I wonder what his excuse would be.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:15 am 


Manny & Floyd are cherrypickers, GGG has nothing but bums in his resume but is considered a legend in making ( his 32yrs old ffs), Khan thinks begging for a payday on tweeter earns him a shot and networks, organisations, promoters are ripping us fans another hole, and you worried about being COOL.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:14 am 


BRed – this is a boxing site, nor wonder the boxers have gone softer nowadays even the fans have gone soft since when has a bit of banter/ thrash talk been an issue in boxing.

Posted February 10, 2014 1:09 am 


Even Broner & Canelo have a better resume. Lomachenko is about to take on a champion in his 2nd fight as a pro. Rigondeaux busted up an elite Flash in 12 fights.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:59 am 


Eagle eyes – you should be embarrassed at trying to sell a 32yr old professional as a real deal when all his done is beat on C level fighters while #2 P4P is available just 8lbs away.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:56 am 


Anonymous – Anyone can look like JCC vs bums.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:49 am 

Eagle Eyes

Happyboy, you’re embarrassing yourself, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Calling fighters like Stevens and Macklin bums is just plain ignorant.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:47 am 


Eagle eyes – GGG doesn’t have the balls to fight SOG and his fanboys support him in his crusade against bums

Posted February 10, 2014 12:40 am 


Golovkin is too good for Lara… And he has too much fire power… I hope the fight comes off.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:30 am 


I like this fight… I like Golovkin vs Lara… Lara needs to move up to middleweight and he’s challenging the toughest fighter there… Cotto is challenging a tired old man who will probably beat him.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:27 am 


Imoesiri is a heavyweight.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:25 am 


I’ve written this before, but it bears repeating: It takes a very special fighter to get me to drive to Big Bear Lake, Calif.

Undefeated middleweight contender Gennady Golovkin is one such fighter.

Tom Loeffler, the managing director of K2 Promotions, which recently signed the 30-year-old Kazakhstani, invited a select group of boxing media (which amounted to MaxBoxing’s Steve Kim, RingTV’s videographer Daniel Morales, and Yours Truly) to watch Golovkin spar on Wednesday.

The word “spar” was the key part of Loeffler’s invite. Golovkin is a friendly guy, who works very hard in the gym and is doing his best to learn English, but if THE RING’s No. 8-rated middleweight wasn’t sparring on this day I would not have made the 100-mile trek and the winding drive up nearly 7,000 feet to the mountain resort town.

Golovkin (23-0, 20 KOs), who will fight European middleweight champ Grzegorz Proksa on Sept. 1 in his U.S. (and HBO) debut, would be sparring with Ryan Coyne and David Imoesiri.

Both Coyne and Imoesiri are southpaws, as is Proksa (28-1, 20 KOs), THE RING’s No. 10-rated middleweight, but that’s not why they were selected. The main reason they have been sparring with Golovkin is because they are BIG and able to take the punishment the WBA’s “regular” 160-pound beltholder dishes out – at least for a few rounds.

“He’s a f***ing beast,” said Coyne, a 20-0 cruiserweight prospect who has recently dropped down to light heavyweight. “He’s been running guys out of here. Nobody under 175 pounds will spar with him.

“I’ve sparred with heavyweights who can punch, including Mariusz Wach and Mike Perez, nobody has hit me as hard as Golovkin. His power is out of this world.”

Golovkin’s punching prowess was on display – along with his underrated ring generalship – during his first four rounds of sparring with Imoesiri, a 6-foot-2 amateur heavyweight who was recently part of the L.A. Matadors semi-pro boxing squad.

From the beginning of the first round, Golovkin gradually cut the ring off on Imoesiri, feinting and jabbing his way inside where he “tapped” the nimble 24 year old’s body with left hooks. (When I say “tapped” I mean that he didn’t appear to put much effort into the shots, however, the punches made a loud smacking noise when they landed – and Imoesiri noticeably winced in pain.)

Golovkin stunned Imoesiri into the ropes with a lead right midway through the round, prompting the amateur standout fire back a four-punch combination with impressive hand speed. However, Golovkin blocked the shots and pushed the bigger man back into the ropes.

The ring had become a very small space for Imoesiri within the span of four minutes (the length of all of Golovkin’s sparring rounds).

“See what I’m talking about?” said Julian Jackson, who I sat next to during Golovkin’s rounds with Imoesiri. Prior to the session, the former junior middleweight and middleweight titleholder compared Golovkin to a prime Julio Cesar Chavez.

“When I first saw him I thought he was the spitting image of Chavez, and it turns out that he fights like him too,” said Jackson, who brought Rogers, his nephew, up the mountain to soak up the professional environment Sanchez has created and, admittedly, to see what all the fuss over Golovkin was about.

“I liked his work ethic before I even knew it was him,” Jackson continued. “Oh man, he trains like an animal! But once he got into the ring, I saw things that reminded me of Chavez. He’s strong and aggressive, but he’s also very accurate with every punch. And I like the body work. That reminds me of Julio.”

When I first saw Golovkin spar last May he reminded me of a 160-pound version of Kostya Tszyu. He flashed a sharp jab and a laser-straight right hand much like the former junior welterweight champ.

However, that was more than a year ago. Since then, Golovkin has stopped Kasim Ouma (TKO 10), Lujan Simon (KO 1) and Makoto Fuchigami (TKO 3) and he’s had three full camps with Sanchez, who has been adding technical aspects of the Mexican and American boxing styles to his star fighter’s rock solid Eastern European foundation.

Watching Golovkin slip and parry punches while marching in range to land pin-point liver shots did indeed conjure images of a prime Chavez in my head. (I still say Golovkin looks more like Tszyu than JC Superstar, but I wasn’t going to argue with an all-time great puncher like Jackson, who happens to be a wonderful human being.)

In the second round, Imoesiri attempted to meet Golovkin head on. He tried to swarm Golovkin with fast flurries but couldn’t land clean shots or deter the smaller man. Golovkin walked through the punches Imoesiri did land – mainly the jab. By the end of the round Imoesiri returned to his stick-and-move strategy.

In rounds three and four, Golovkin kept Imoesiri’s back to the ropes and tormented the young man with an assortment of compact crosses and hooks to the body and head. The final minute of the fourth round was particularly brutal, but Imoesiri says he’s becoming accustomed to the punishment.

“The dude can hit, I’m still getting used to it,” said Imoesiri, who like Coyne, is delightfully bright and articulate. “It’s crazy. I sparred with [undefeated WBA heavyweight beltholder] Alexander Povetkin and he never hurt me like this guy.

“I must have done 50 rounds while in camp with Povetkin and it was three and half weeks before he hit me with something that made me hold on. With Golovkin I was ready to get out of the ring 45 seconds into our first round of sparring. He hit me with two lefts to the body in the identical spot and had me doubled over. I got through it but it’s hard to defend against 6-inch punches with that much pop. He backs me into a corner with just a jab.

“And it seems like he does it effortlessly.”

After Imoesiri, Coyne went three rounds with Golovkin. It was clear from the start that the 30-year-old college grad from St. Louis respected the smaller man. Coyne boxed smart by keeping Golovkin at bay with a snapping power-jab and then moving out of range whenever Golovkin slipped by it.

“I’m learning a lot by being in the ring with him,” said Coyne, who observed that Golovkin’s power is due to his punching technique and positioning as much as it his physical strength and natural ability.

“He’s not a big middleweight, but he dictates range very well and he puts you at the end of his shots, so you always get the full impact. He’s so poised and professional, picking every shot; I have no choice but to learn. I can’t compete with him just by being bigger and more athletic.”

Coyne constantly moved his head and feet, often doubling his jab to the body and head – wisely mixing his punches up to avoid being timed and countered by Golovkin. Only at the right moment would the former University of Missouri football player plant his feet and drop a quick two-punch combination.

He landed a few of those, including a good uppercut-cross off the ropes during their second round, but by their third round he found himself cornered. Golovkin isn’t untouchable but he’s sure as hell tough and persistent.

Golovkin doubled his hook to the head and body of Coyne, who fired back in spots and finally spun off the ropes in the final minute of the round, looking weary but also a touch relieved that the session was almost over.

The close of Golovkin’s seventh round ended 28 minutes (remember, they were going 4-minute rounds, folks) of quality sparring. I asked him how he felt before he left the ring.

“Of course, I feel good,” he said, smiling warmly as he always does when he’s not punching someone. “(It’s) good work. I’m relaxed, I’m having fun.”

It didn’t look fun for Imoesiri and Coyne.

“That’s why I have to put him in with big guys,” said Sanchez. “He’s too relaxed when he spars with middleweights or junior middleweights. They can’t hurt him. It’s so easy he doesn’t bother to defend himself. He gets silly.

“We have a saying in my gym: ‘There’s no free shots.’ I don’t want my fighters letting opponents hit them. So sparring with the bigger guys makes him work his defense – to a degree.”

Sanchez, who has worked with at least 10 former titleholders over the past 30 years, says Golovkin is the best fighter he’s ever trained. That’s quite a statement considering the fact that Sanchez trained former junior middleweight champ and recent hall-of-fame inductee Terry Norris.

I got the feeling my old **************** cohort believes Sanchez by the look on his face after the sparring session.

Kim sat on a stool in front of the ring with a look of disbelief.

“He literally wore this big guy down,” said Kim, who isn’t easily impressed. “I don’t think either guy could have gone one more round with him.”

Posted February 10, 2014 12:22 am 

Eagle Eyes

Not even close Rapid Fire, I just don’t see how you can look at both fighters and see the same thing. Canelo isn’t that good at cutting off the ring, Golovkin is the best in the business at it. Canelo as you say, is flat footed, Golovkin is not, he is a hybrid fighter, front foot flat and the back foot always on the ball. And Golovkin doesn’t have trouble with movement, he’s scarcely lost a round in three years, he presses his opponents, fast or slow, and wears them down with constant accurate punching. He also has the ability to make adjustments on the fly, but Canelo struggles when he has to change his plans. It mostly comes down to experience, Golovkin spent years as a classic counter puncher, he has a much wider range of knowledge to choose from when the going gets tough.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:17 am 


Angulo had no difficulty landing hard lefts to Lara’s ribs all night. GG’s body shots break ribs and have heavyweights doubling over in the gym. Angulo’s sparring partners don’t have to wear body armour when they spar him but GG’s do.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:15 am 


Angulo had to get on his bike from GG. When they were wearing big gloves and head gear. angulo didn’t take a backward step all night against lara. he dropped lara twice. lara was on the back foot from the get-go against him.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:12 am 

Woop Woop

So it is clear that you are not man enough to admit you lied. That just shows a character flaw in all your statements and dilutes any support you give to the Middleweight ducking king GGG. Many thanks. Until the truth is absorbed I need to reiterate the facts to the IQ lacking, easily bluffed, suckers who continue to blow wind up the butt of a proven fraud and deceiver.

Posted February 10, 2014 12:11 am 


As much as I detest the long and winding drive up to Big Bear Lake, Calif., I knew I would eventually return to the mountain resort town sometime this year.

I’d been hearing too many stories about Gennady Golovkin, the undefeated WBA middleweight beltholder coached by Abel Sanchez at the veteran trainer‘s gym in Big Bear, to stay away.

When Sanchez told me last month that rising Mexican star Saul Alvarez would not only arrive to train at The Summit, his high altitude training center, in May but also spar with Golovkin, I knew my time to return had come.

By sitting in on a sparring session between the two, I’d find out whether there’s any truth to the outlandish gym rumors I’d heard about Golovkin, a 28-year-old native of Kazakhstan who goes by the nickname “Superman,” and I’d see how talented and tough the 20-year-old 154-pound beltholder really is.

I realize that sparring is not the same thing as an actual fight. However, given what I’d heard and read about Golovkin (20-0, 17 knockouts), a 2003 world amateur champ and 2004 Olympic silver medalist who defeated the likes of Lucian Bute (by KO), Andre Dirrell and Andy Lee in the amateurs, I figured he could tell me more about Alvarez (36-0-1, 26 KOs) than the kid’s fights with faded old Carlos Baldomir and naturally smaller recent opponents such as Jose Cotto, Lovemore Ndou and Matthew Hatton.

I was able to stave off my usual altitude sickness during the drive up to the remote San Bernardino mountain town with thoughts of all the hype I’ve heard on Golovkin in recent months. It began with a text message from Sam Garcia late last June.

“Perro is getting lit up in sparring by this Russian dude!” read the text message from Garcia, an assistant trainer for junior lightweight prospect Eloy Perez, who frequently trains in Big Bear.

“Perro,” of course, is Alfredo Angulo, the rugged junior middleweight contender who was preparing for his HBO-televised fight against Joachim Alcine last July when he locked horns with Golovkin at Sanchez‘s gym. Garcia later gave me a more-detailed account of the sparring session. Lightweight contender Urbano Antillon, who is trained by Sanchez, supported Garcia’s story.

A few months later I got a phone call from the producer of a Spanish-language sports show, who swore that he witnessed Golovkin “embarrass” Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the Wild Card gym during an open workout held for the Latino media a few weeks before the unbeaten middleweight pulled out of scheduled Dec. 4 card.

A Wild Card regular who spotted me at the Alvarez-Hatton fight in Anaheim, Calif., this past March whispered that he saw Golovkin give undefeated super middleweight prospect Peter Quillin all he could handle at Roach’s famous boxing club.

The producer and the gym rat didn’t want to go on record for fear of being banned from Wild Card, which is understandable (I guess), but Garcia, who watched Golovkin and Angulo spar in Big Bear, has no problem sharing his observations with his fellow boxing fans.

“Alfredo Angulo is a very strong, very competitive, prideful guy who has a great team behind him, but Golovkin is on another level,” said Garcia, who says he watched three sparring sessions between the two over the course of one week. “His strength, his demeanor, his skill, everything he did in there was just too much for Angulo, which surprised the hell out of me.

“I’ve seen Angulo spar many times before and he‘s always the one doing the hurting. He’s so damn tough I’ve never seen him take a step back, let alone get hurt. I was expecting him to test this Golovkin guy that I’d never seen before, but ‘Superman’ was in there taking and giving, and he hurt Angulo a couple times, especially to the body. Angulo had to get on his bike against Golovkin, which was just bizarre to see.”

Posted February 10, 2014 12:08 am 


Woop Woop,
I don’t give a toss who you are, all I know is that you endlessly repeat your stupid statements and bore the arse off everyone with inane comments.
Haglers biggest fights were against smaller guys going up in weight to fight him, fact.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:59 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Happyboy, he’ll fight a top contender or champion as soon as those so called champions find their balls. It won’t be easy, they have very tiny balls, downright miniscule, practically microscopic. Although this fight would be a credit to Lara’s courage, at least he is a real man.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:59 pm 


Eagle i know in sparring you’re only working on weakenesses but you still have to show your strengths as well to execute. Sadly every detail you mentioned for Golovkin compares to Canelo. Both of them keep distance while putting pressure on their opponent, both of them are flat footed power punchers who can’t handle movement. Also you can’t cut off the ring if your opponent has good footwork(Mayweather) so don’t judge from that one fight. When Golovkin finally mans up and challenges Ward or excepts this fight against Lara then you’ll see what he’s truly about so until then i see no difference.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:58 pm 


Lara seems to be on a roll, I give him some props for calling out GGG like that, did anybody see the picture on his twitter too? I think he mentioned kirkland and floyd as well, go on his twitter you could see it.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:54 pm 


i remember all the hoopla when david reid beat the cuban Alfredo Duvergel in the olympics. you’d think they’d just discovered the secret to prevent ageing the way the americans were carrying on. that’s how much of a big deal it was for them to beat a top cuban fighter in the olympics.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:50 pm 


cubans are just better than american fighters. look at the amount of talented fighters the produce in relation to the size of their country? it’s no contest. cuba is a fraction of the size of america. they and the eastern europeans completely dominate american fighters in the amateurs and they would’ve certainly done so in the paid ranks too if they hadn’t been denied the opportunity to fight professionally as well.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:44 pm 


golden boy and in particular richard schaefer have been almost as disdainful about lara as bob arum has about lara’s fellow us based cuban rigo. if lara could beat ggg it would set up a fight between him and mayweather nicely. but that’s the last thing golden boy wants.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:38 pm 


why don’t we ever see mayweather or any of his fans calling for a fight against lara? they’re both hold trinkets in the same division and they’re both signed to al haymon. it would be a intriguing chess battle for as long as mayweather was able to stay out of harm’s way.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:36 pm 


mayweather’s the one who’s ducking Lara. there’s a reason why golden boy never mention lara’s name as a possible opponent for him, and it’s the exact same reason why they don’t want canelo to go anywhere near Lara too. The simple truth is mayweather won’t fight prime opponents that pose him a real risk. This is why he managed to miss all those potential match ups against prime legitimate risks like pacquiao, margarito, mosley, cotto, paul williams and why he won’t go anywhere near fight lara or ggg. legendary fighters like sugar ray leonard, thomas hearns, roberto duran would’ve leapt at the chance to fight all of those fighters and even mayweather’s most ardent admirers know this. lara would stop mayweather and ggg would do the same only much quicker and more brutally.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:36 pm 


When is GGG gonna fight a top contender or champion?

Posted February 9, 2014 11:19 pm 


Great fight hope it happens.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:19 pm 


Bulawayo – GGG would be comparable to a John Mugabi on that list. All those legends were multiple division champions at 32 yrs old and had beat several champions and top contenders too. Nice try, dumb ass!

Posted February 9, 2014 11:09 pm 


@eagle eyes good post

Posted February 9, 2014 10:59 pm 

John Doe

Lara vs ggg is one of my dream fights. I give a lot of credit to Lara for calling out ggg. This is what I like about Cuban boxers. They’re tough ang deadly. Ggg is a good fighter but I would like to see him fighting real opposition against a top class boxer like Lara. April 26, 2014: let’s get ready to rumble!

Posted February 9, 2014 10:50 pm 


that boxtradamus smack talk post on 3g is a keeper. watch the greatness unfold of 3g and a possible another cuban demise. we see it all the time.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:50 pm 


Dammmm!!! A real boxing Arthur/fan. Lara is not about to let Mayweather out shine him because he holds two belt in his division; Lara is “King of the Jr. Middleweight,” and he’s ready to prove it by facing Golovkin, the claimed best middleweight in boxing. If he were to pull off that victory, Mayweather would be forced to play or fold because he, Lara, would have defeated the only other fighter that people think can defeat Floyd not named Pacquiao. You got to love Lara who’s making it known to both Floyd and GGG that the only way to each other is through him. Can you see Pacquiao fighting GGG, Lara, or Canelo, whom Floyd dominated? Lets you know just how good Floyd is doesn’t it! This is one challenge that GGG needs to take or he becomes a hype job. Iwould love to see that fight. Lets get it on!! Lara vs Golovkin!

Posted February 9, 2014 10:29 pm 

Black lady


Posted February 9, 2014 10:25 pm 

Alfred Angulo

Yeah, Lara has so much speed that I was able to knock him down.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:04 pm 

Woop Woop

Bulawayo2 – I resent that comment. I have never, and will never call anybody who climbs through the ropes a “bum”. If you were a man, you would withdraw that comment or withdraw my name from that outright lie. Again I am not any of those other posters. I am the way and the truth. Too many take the easy path and bow to peer group pressure. Broaden your mind and have an original opinion, it will set you free.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:03 pm 


Lara can beat Golovkin at 154 or 160. He has SKILLS and Boxing IQ that can match GGG’s and the 3rd most important factor in Boxing is SPEED where Lara has the clear advantage. Lara would defeat GGG thats why he won’t take the Fight. But I THANK Lara for calling Golovkin’s BLUFF SO that everyone can see him for what he IS. A cherry picker….I can’t wait for the creative excuse.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:55 pm 


So people are questioning ggg’s ability when he hasn’t lost since his amateur days or even looked volnurable as a pro, I don’t care what his competition has been he has barely lost a round! Yet we assume lara is more proven by barely getting by a limited fighter like angula and don’t forget going life or death with martarosyan are you serious??? I would think angulo is similar to curtis stevens and we seen how ggg handled that type of fighter….

Posted February 9, 2014 9:50 pm 


Woop Woop, Redmond, Happy Boy etc.,
Needle stuck in the groove again, ” Golovkin only fights bums little guys etc., ”
I seem to recall Haglers biggest fights were all against little guys ( using your definition ) Ray leonard a welter, Hearns a welter , Duran a lightweight\welter, John Mugabi was a LMW.
I wonder if you thought ” Marvelous Marvin ” was only fighting little guys?

Posted February 9, 2014 9:50 pm 


Unfortunately I must predict that GGG will duck this LOSS. Just like Khan, IF he’s going to LOSE he wants it to be against Mayweather. At least a LOSS against Mayweather pays very WELL.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:42 pm 

Woop Woop

GGG chooses to fight #23 ranked Andy Lee instead of being flexible to take on a real challenge. He will probably dump Lee to fight Jnr Middle Lara because GGG loves beating on the small guys to look good and build momentum of his hype train. Again the call outs have gone unheard as GGG looks to take the softest option available. Although plenty of name drops to guys unable to take the fight on that date as usual. GGG has the record of a Wilder and the talk but no walk of a Fury. More people are becoming wise of his antics and sooner or later he will need to face a real threat.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:39 pm 


Its GOOD to see that Lara has been reading MY posts. He has an excellent chance of defeating GGG on points. In FACT I rate Lara higher than GGG SO that means that Lara has a 95% chance of WINNING. SO the bookies would be WISE to make MY pick the favorite.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:36 pm 


@nomore : “GGG said he would fight anyone from 154 up to 168, 175. It was HIS idea!”
I don’t recall him saying anything about 175, but either way, you move divisions for fights where it makes sense. If it was Mayweather offering, then by all means, go to 154. Even if it was Canelo, then fair enough (i.e. Golovkin wouldn’t really by in the driver’s seat in either of these fights money-wise). Or against bigger guys, then probably Golovkin would have to move up (i.e. Froch or Ward aren’t making 160 short of bulemia). But against Lara? No freaking way!
Lara is in the beggar’s position here so he’s the one who makes the move, not Golovkin.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:19 pm 


make the fight at 160 for the middleweight title

Posted February 9, 2014 9:09 pm 


Lara… he’s a good boy.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:06 pm 


Lara takes him to class!

Posted February 9, 2014 8:23 pm 


Lee gets KOd earlier than Chavez got him.

Posted February 9, 2014 8:02 pm 


If the Lara fight doesn’t get made, Andy Lee will give GGG a tougher fight than any of you guys are giving him credit for.

Posted February 9, 2014 7:49 pm 

The 12Th Man


Posted February 9, 2014 7:32 pm 

Eagle Eyes

John, even Sergio’s promoter says Golovkin is too much for him. Martinez wouldn’t last seven rounds, maybe a few years ago he could have done it, but not now.

Posted February 9, 2014 7:23 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Woop Woop, you are obviously a fool. Geale would get paid whether the fight gets air time in Australia or not. And HBO is big network, they have a busy schedule of dramas and sports events, all booked long in advance. Are you trying to tell me that HBO can just change their schedule because a fighter who is not popular in America asked them to change their programming. Who does he think he is? If he can’t convince Australian broadcasters to cover the fight, then why does he think he can get HBO to change their plans? No dude, not buying it. This is the third time Geale has turned down a fight with Golovkin, and every time he has a convenient excuse. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me three times? GTFOH.

Posted February 9, 2014 7:17 pm 


As crazy as it sounds I like Bernard over GGG

Posted February 9, 2014 6:59 pm 


Lara is a great fight though, will be competitive at least . Kirkland ? Maybe or Angullo ! Great action

Posted February 9, 2014 6:56 pm 


GGG hits hard but gets hit too, not good when you are in with Martinez – can be fodder to speed and power and Sergio ain’t getting caught with a body shot – sorry gang I love GGG but he’s outclassed here. Andre Ward ? Are you joking ?

Posted February 9, 2014 6:54 pm 


Make the fight happen!

Posted February 9, 2014 6:49 pm 

third world

i actually agree with the article. the problem is lara’a chin. it’s just a matter of time. good litmus test though given lara’s movement. if he thought angulo hit hard,then he’s in for a toughy.

Posted February 9, 2014 6:34 pm 


Titopa, sure…that’s why SERGIO MARTINEZ’s promoter has gone on record refusing to match his man against GGG. I admit I would like to see K2 break ranks from Top Rank to see Quillin-Golovkin happen on Showtime though.

Posted February 9, 2014 6:26 pm 


Great fight for both fighters careers and especially for the fans! This fight will answer a lot of questions about both fighters, even though there are more questions concerning GGG than there are for Lara. So far Lara has a more impressive resume’ against a better level of competition, but GGG is going to be a tall order for Lara. Not sure who wins this fight, but I will be watching and enjoying!

Posted February 9, 2014 6:25 pm 


GGG would actually have a real challenge as Lara is awkward. I like this. He should have beaten much bigger guys like Paul Williams in past fights, so this isn’t some cruel mismatch as Lara moves up.

Posted February 9, 2014 6:24 pm 

Swedish Boxing Fan

We have united by all an excellent answer for this problem and the problem(s) with Floyd Mayweather Jr – Floyd is a childish & spoiled prima donna in boxing world and we all should never pay for his fights.

I speaking for all of us when saying this and I shall let this message be spread all over and let others do the same and even more. It all has to start somewhere.

This boxer is not worth the time or the money.

Posted February 9, 2014 6:18 pm 


ggg ducks all good fighters

Posted February 9, 2014 6:01 pm 

Proud African

Lara could upset Golovkin. The only problem will be the weight issue. Will Golovkin take up the offer?

Posted February 9, 2014 5:44 pm 

Tom Jones

@WyclefGene Well said, sir!

Posted February 9, 2014 5:44 pm 

Wyclef Gene

@Happyboy My good sir, I have presented Gennady ‘Triple G’ Golovkin in his true light. It is up to those other people claiming to be champions and whom are reluctant to meet him, to step.up to the challenge that iis GGG. :)

Posted February 9, 2014 5:41 pm 


All the fantasizing about non-160 pound opponents (Kirkland, Lara, Ward etc.) is irrelivent. There’s plenty of talent in the middleweight division including: Quillan, Geale, Murray, Martinez, and Sturm. Actually, I’d like to see GGG fight Korobov or Lemieux, both rated lower than Lee. There’s also a chance GGG may fight one of his bouts in 2014 in Argentina, Australia, Germany, or the UK, where live gates are huge compared to those in the U.S. What we’re witnessing is the evolution of a great “World Middleweight Champion”.

Posted February 9, 2014 5:39 pm 


He is under Golden Boy which means he is on showtime since HBO doesn’t do business with Golden Boy. But GGG is not under contract with HBO and he does not fight for a promoter that is only affiliated to one of the cable networks which means the fight can take place on showtime

Posted February 9, 2014 5:34 pm 

Woop Woop

Once again GGG has ducked an opponent worthy of competition and tried to make it look like he was avoided. Geale could not take the 26 April 14 date due to TV rights in Australia going to a UFC promotion on that date. Geale needs to get paid too. He asked the GGG camp to move the date a week earlier or later. The response from the GGG camp was “great, we won’t do that, because now we don’t need to face a legitimate challenger but can leave out the facts and details while saying Geale turned us down”. GGG knocks back another meaningful fight to jump in with Andy ???? Lee. This guy is taking all you suckers money and Eagle Eyes is the front running donater for the GGG smoke and mirrors fund.

Posted February 9, 2014 5:33 pm 


lara would be a good opponent. does Lara box for hbo or showtime?

Posted February 9, 2014 5:32 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Supreme Court, Golovkin never called out Floyd, he was asked if he would like to fight him and of course he said yes, but there’s a big difference between that and calling Floyd out. And what smaller fighters does he systematically fight? Adama is 5ft11 and 175 pounds on fight night, Stevens used to fight at light heavyweight, Macklin and Proksa are career middleweights, and even Ishida is 6ft2 and weighed 170 on fight night. Rosado may have been the smallest, but even he is 6ft tall and weighed about 165 when he stepped into the ring. What small fighters are you referring to?

Posted February 9, 2014 5:19 pm 


every now and then comes another ” Hec dog” like Wyclef and preaches when all we want to see is GGG challenge someone good ( a champion )who wants to fight him not guys like Geale who have to be begged to fight.

Posted February 9, 2014 5:11 pm 



Posted February 9, 2014 5:11 pm 


Personally I think he’ll smash Lara but at the rate he feasts on bums any top fighter will do, it is against a smart boxer like Ward I’m really interested in, someone who can neutralise power and test his skills. I know his got power nothing new there. Julian Jackson, GMan were hard punchers, now I’m interested on other aspects of his game besides power.

Posted February 9, 2014 5:06 pm 

Kid Hammer

Never saw Lara fight. Watched live GGG fight in Monte Carlo.

Question is does Lara have a style like Tim Bradley?

Posted February 9, 2014 5:01 pm 

Wyclef Gene

Gennady ‘Triple G’ Golovkin is the Real Deal today, my friends. A World Junior Champion in early competition, then World Champion and Olympic silver medallist in the senior amateur ranks, he seemlessly made the transition to the professional game and now as WBA World Champion, dominates the Middleweight Division like a Great White Shark. A shining star at every stage of his career, Gennady is reminiscent of a comet blazing in the night time sky, a speeding meteor, a supernova even, a legendary boxing sensation, an irresistable force of nature, an iconic warrior for the Ages coming out of the steppes of Central Asia like a modern-day Genghis Khan, an Emperor of all he surveys on the Boxing stage and conqueror of men, a dazzling superstar, a courageous and fearsome competitor who will not be vanquished any time soon. Will any of the pretenders who lay claim to being the best at 154 to 168 lbs step up to the challenge of Gennady Golovkin, the Colussus from the East who bestrides the whole of the worldwide sport like an Ancient God, the likes of whom are rarely seen in a lifetime, if ever? Who can stand against this truly awesome and powerful fighting machine? Gennady Golovkin will dominate in a peerless manner for many years to come and will enter The Boxing Hall Of Fame as a true international icon of world sport. Gennady is the best.

Posted February 9, 2014 5:00 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Rapid Fire, Golovkin worked with Canelo because that’s what he tries to do, he never goes out of his way to try to dominate a sparring partner. But if you think they’re the same kind of fighter you’re sorely mistaken. Canelo doesn’t know how to cut off a ring like Golovkin does, he definitely doesn’t have Golovkin’s endurance or work rate, and to state the obvious, he doesn’t hit as hard as Golovkin does. And despite the fact that Canelo throws good combinations, Golovkin consistently throws unorthodox combinations, they’re much harder to read and do wonders to shake his opponents confidence. Golovkin also fights at his true weight, whereas Canelo boils down to take advantage of his size against smaller men.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:58 pm 

Hate’tah kill’a

@Bears: you get what I mean Bears? Instead of you simply saying ggg kovalev,etc would be tough opponents your mind wanders to there jockstrap zone…..ummm

Posted February 9, 2014 4:53 pm 


No one called GGG a bum but we’ve seen enough bums in his resume and we’ve heard enough of MW champions ducking him, now even Lara has called him out, and Ward is also available, why bother waisting time with Andy Lee & some other bum when there are two top dogs either side of him ready to fight.?

Posted February 9, 2014 4:52 pm 


Lara does not look like he does well with stalker/punchers. Angulo had him running in the later rounds.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:50 pm 

Hate’tah kill’a

Isn’t it funny how sissy type guys give themselves masculine names when they hide behind the screen. BEARS….did you woman run off with a Cuban or Black man?? Look in the mirror Bears….be truthful…. You don’t matter anywhere do you??

Posted February 9, 2014 4:50 pm 


Yeah, it will be a good fight. I got GGG taking Lara into the deep and KOing him late.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:46 pm 

Sant Flores

GGG vs ward is going to happen so everyone just relax!!

Posted February 9, 2014 4:44 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Happyboy, Golovkin isn’t going on about anything. He fights who he fights because the “top dogs” will not take a fight with him. Golovkin hasn’t turned down anyone, but at least one fighter turns him down every time that he tries to set up a fight. Kirkland and Geale have already turned him down for April, which makes it three times now that Geale has refused a Golovkin fight. And one more thing, why doesn’t Ward call Golovkin? Golovkin is in the process of cleaning out his division, he has credible fights at 160 that he is trying to make happen, but Ward doesn’t have much on his plate right now in terms of fights, if he’s that desperate to fight GGG he could at least make an offer.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:41 pm 



Posted February 9, 2014 4:40 pm 


His trainer said he wanted GGG to be on an even playing field with Ward. Meaning he wants it to be 50/50 at the negotiating table.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:37 pm 


i see happyboy is posting under my tag. lol! good post!

Posted February 9, 2014 4:33 pm 


Eagle eye – just who does he have the guts to step into the ring with cause all see is bum after bum, won a title for beating a bum, has defended it 11 times vs bums, just when is he planning to fight a top contender or champion ( Bears says : 2 more Bums ). Please call us when his done fighting bums.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:33 pm 


yeah i like 3g but im not like a rabid floyd nuthugger when it comes to 3g or any boxer. 3g bette be a warrior and make this fight happen. he better respond adequately to lara. be a big disappointment if 3g acted like the two biggest v@gin@s in boxing ward and floyd. guys like 3g and kovalev and klitschko and canelo and mathyse represent the warrior

Posted February 9, 2014 4:32 pm 


Lol really if you put anyone against a slick fighter they’re gonna have trouble..ask Mayweather he hasn’t fought one in years. Zab Judah was the only guy who had the head movement to counter Floyd’s right hand until he adjusted lol

Posted February 9, 2014 4:31 pm 


why not give marvin a ring.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:29 pm 


Eagle Eye – GGG is the only going on as if all tip digs from 154lbs – 168lbs are ducking him thats why his fighting bums, all we saying why don’t he give Ward a call instead of cherrypicking bums no one has never even heard of from Brooklyn to Africa. Fight SOG or STFU!

Posted February 9, 2014 4:26 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Happy boy, why don’t you save the rants for one of those so called “fighters with a heartbeat”. Golovkin fights whoever has the guts to step in the ring with him.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:25 pm 


Just the Fight I had been clamoring for!!!! Golovkin wasn’t going to MAN UP and challenge one of the BEST 154 lbers SO he had to challenge HIM. Time for GGG to step UP to the plate. Can’t wait for his response!!!

Posted February 9, 2014 4:24 pm 


“we want 3g to be on even playing field with ward”

what does that even mean peej?7 as though there is a wealth i opponents for ward! lol @ u!!! it would be just fine if ward was 3g next opponent. ward and adonis need to stop being a weak a$$. they need to be planning on fighting kovalev and 3g SOON. 3g needs to squeez ward cause i doubt ward even wants it. powerhouses like adonis call ward out and ward just acts like be-otch and doesnt even respond. so please save the ward praise peej. so 3g maybe 3 more fights before moving up. lara and martinez cotto winner then move up if floyd wont fight which we know floyds like ward and wont fight a real fight so 3g should move to start squeezing ward after just 2 more fights

Posted February 9, 2014 4:22 pm 


Guy is 32yrs old, a champion with 10 defenses not even one champion or top contender in his resume. Come on, when is he planning to fight somebody with a heartbeat, all we hear is how he spanks bums and challenges WWs as a dream fight while there’s a real threat just next door at SMW, SOG, #2 P4P, Super 6 champion, only 8lbs diffs.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:19 pm 


Tell that to Canelo who was able to go blow for blow with GGG in sparring. IMO Canelo is the splitting image of GGG. “In reality” GGG only fights pressure fighters. Once you put him up against a slick fighter he will look ordinary mark my words..just like Canelo

Posted February 9, 2014 4:19 pm 


bet on it lara will run like a coyote you saw what angulo did to lara with a left hook think about it

Posted February 9, 2014 4:14 pm 

Eagle Eyes

And some of you guys are misinterpreting what is going on here. Ward and Hopkins never made an offer to Golovkin, so it is completely unfair to say that Golovkin is avoiding those guys, he cannot sign to a fight if there is no offer to sign. Ward and Hopkins, and Ward in particular are playing the optics game. Ward keeps saying “I’m ready to fight him”, but if he wants the fight so bad then why not give Tom Loeffler a call and make them an offer. The truth of the matter is that Ward is waiting for Golovkin to call him out, which means he has nothing to be critical of, he’s made no more of an effort to make that fight happen than Golovkin has. Ward is just acting like that to garner sympathy, I’m not buying it.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:13 pm 


it would be awesome if ggg made the fight with lara talk about a boxing MUST SEE. not to be confused with a garbage foregone conclusion floyd fight.

wards good but he outpointed froch and got his jacked and his mouthpiece popped out. froch landing the best punch if the fight. kessler i dont know about the value of the scalp. same with the boiled down chad. i think wards meddle should be tested harder than it has going forward with kovalev above him and 3g below him. those guys represent the real test. i hope 3g meets lara next it will be a great start and good scalp value. every bit as good a scalp value as wards best if u ask me

Posted February 9, 2014 4:12 pm 


peej- yeah you’re right. GGG’s team did back off. I guess it was only hot air. I believed him.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:04 pm 


Ah ok. Got it

Posted February 9, 2014 4:03 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Peej, I just said Ward is a great boxer, I was assuming you guys were already thinking that Ward had all the qualities you mentioned, I just wanted to remind folks that Golovkin does too.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:02 pm 


Don’t forget Eagle Eyes Ward hasn’t lost a fight since he was 14 years old. Fought in a weight class bigger than him just so a friend could make the olympic squad. Ward can also read other fighters and use their weaknesses against them and exploit his strengths.

Posted February 9, 2014 3:58 pm 


Yeah but unfortunately when he said that I don’t think he thought others would accept the fight. Ward and Hopkins both said ok we can do it if you want and GGG and his team backed off that and said we are trying to clean out the middle weight division. Then also came back with we want GGG to be on even terms with Ward before we even start talking about it.

Posted February 9, 2014 3:57 pm 


cheezeb- GGG said he would fight anyone from 154 up to 168, 175. It was HIS idea!

Posted February 9, 2014 3:52 pm 


Man Golovkin don’t want none of Lara..y’all watch this call out somehow goes by his head. Then everyone will be like he ducked Erislandy Lara

Posted February 9, 2014 3:51 pm 


Eagle eyes – what about Ward?

Posted February 9, 2014 3:50 pm 


” This iis a legend in the making ” Dude is 32yrs old ffs!

Posted February 9, 2014 3:46 pm 


Im really just responding to someone who said he would only go down for a Floyd fight. And like I have said before, I really don’t think he can make 154 but I’d like to see him prove me wrong and go down and take up Laras challenge

Posted February 9, 2014 3:41 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Peej, Golovkin never said he would only go down to to 154 for Floyd, he said he would be willing to go down in weight for the right offer, big difference. Of course Floyd is Golovkin’s dream fight, but he would also jump at the chance to fight Alvarez and I bet that if Lara is serious he would be happy to fight him too.

Posted February 9, 2014 3:36 pm 


I find that funny, there is always a double standard for Floyd. Granted right now Floyd is considered the best. But GGG will only go down to fight Floyd at 154. Basically for the money. But yet when Floyd chooses someone based on money he gets ridiculed. So why is there a double standard?

Posted February 9, 2014 3:01 pm 

Thurmal Underwear

GGG all day.

Posted February 9, 2014 3:01 pm 


3G said he was willing to fight floyd at 154 not lara, there’s a huge diffrence in the risk/money reward department, but nonetheless, lara is a much better opposition than andy lee.
I would like to see unification fights in 3G’s weight division alongside B-hops division if possible.
Laras a great opportunity for 3G to showcase what he has, but I wouldn’t give away the wright advantage to much if I were 3G.
I’d watch this fight forsure.

Posted February 9, 2014 2:56 pm 


GGG fighting at 168 will be a whole nother thing. He is not gonna run through 168 and if Ward is still there he beats GGG. He may not hit as hard but his boxing IQ and his strength will trouble GGG also. He runs 160 as long as he stays there but moving to 160 is a whole different story.

Posted February 9, 2014 2:44 pm 


This would be a very intriguing fight. Lara is a very good technical boxer that would have his way for the first part of the fight, but GGG is the natural bigger and stronger fighter and would wear Lara down. GGG won’t be beaten by anyone for many years to come. Lara’s best fight would be against Floyd Mayweather, a fight he would win. GGG is at another level. He is a true fighter that stays busy fighting throughout the years, and he’s just getting better. This is a legend in the making. All the 154 pounders have no chance, and the 160 Pounders have no chance. GGG will continue to grow and if Ward is still around, GGG beats him also. Trust me, GGG is a special fighter that loves to fight and train. This is what separates him from the other fighters in boxing.

Posted February 9, 2014 2:40 pm 


Well like I said I can’t complain about anything said about GGG. I am merely going by an eye ball test and I have been wrong before.

Posted February 9, 2014 2:28 pm 

Edgar Guevara

Lara will meet him at 160.

Posted February 9, 2014 2:09 pm 

B Red

Popkins, your right Floyd schools him and Ward plummets him

Posted February 9, 2014 2:01 pm 

B Red

I never seen Geale fight, but Mudine would get destroyed by Triple G

Posted February 9, 2014 1:58 pm 


Hope GGG stays at 160 and continues to dominate. The big fights will come…eventually! He’s too big to weaken himself dropping to 154 and too small for 168.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:58 pm 


Australian Boxing Pundit…LOL:)

Posted February 9, 2014 1:53 pm 


Don’t think anyone at 160 beats triple G at the moment. Mayweather and Ward would out point him. But nobody at middleweight..

Posted February 9, 2014 1:50 pm 

Australian Boxing Pundit

Geale and Mundine would push GGG (the middle weight divisions Deontay Wilder) onto the back foot and dominate him, to an eventual savage KO. Easy work, hence GGG is fighting Lara, ” man with woman’s name”. Come down to Australia where the two best 147-160 LB fighters on earth reside, mate, if you think you can. Pu 55y.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:48 pm 


As Peej said, Martinez is THE Champ. The rest are alphabet strap holders and contenders. I’m sure triple G wud jump at the chance to fight Sergio, and at this point in the Argentinian’s career it wud be a one sided beating, with GGG probably getting a KO. As Martinez won’t giv him a chance, In the meantime, Lara is a decent opponent. Sturm wud b ok. The Alvarez/Cotto winner later in the year wud b a proper test.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:42 pm 


I think there is more money at 154 than there is at 160. That is why I say he would of already. Makes very good sense.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:26 pm 


Yeah you are probably right about that. I think Canelo and team thought it was a big mistake after the fight also. But who knows, maybe the weight did cause that.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:25 pm 


“If GGG could make it he would of already. ”

he would have already. would of already doesn’t make sense.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:19 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Peej, that’s a good point, Canelo probably did come into the fight lighter because of Floyd’s speed, for all the good it did him. 165 on fight night is the lightest he had been in a while, he won’t be as light when he fights Angulo, I’m thinking he’ll be at least 174 for that one.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:17 pm 


B Red I am merely going by the eye test. In my opinion I believe he is the best. I do understand he is not beating up the elite or A level comp. But from what I see, I think he is the goods. Now that is not saying I have never been wrong but that is just what I think. I know you and a few other people have been hard on GGG which I really see nothing wrong. But like I said from what I see, I think he is the best.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:11 pm 


Didn’t he weigh in at 153 when he fought Trout? Losing that extra pound to pound and half really hampered him that much or did he weigh in less because he thought he needed to be lighter to try and match Floyds speed?

Posted February 9, 2014 1:03 pm 


At least there are still some fighters out there who want to face the best and challenge themselves. This should be an interesting fight.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:02 pm 


Ah I figured they offered the fight to GGG. But like I said before these are 154 pound fighters. If GGG could make it he would of already. That is mainly my point. GGG just needs to concentrate on 160 where he is the best and if anybody wants to move up and challenge him then let them feel free to do so.

Posted February 9, 2014 1:01 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Public enemy, Canelo weighed 165 when fought Floyd, but that was because the extra two pounds he had to lose for the weigh in drained him. When he fought Trout he weighed 174.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:59 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Peej, Golovkin’s team did not offer the the fight to Rosado at 157, they offered the fight at 160 but changed the offer at the request of Russell Peltz, Rosado’s manager. When Gabe found out about it he wasn’t happy, so he asked Russell to call them back to take the original 160 offer. The proof of this is actually on video, check out the short film called “Shock The World”, it shows the actual conversation where Gabe asks Russell to change the weight.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:49 pm 


@PEEJ – “Well saying hard to step up when these guys just wont get in the ring can’t be used when there are fighters calling him out.”

Geale was also “calling him out” but we now see where that ended up. Calling someone out is meaningless unless you’re actually willing to follow through with it.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see a Lara fight and I do believe Lara is serious in his challenge. I do hope it comes off if nothing better is available… I’m just also realistic enough to know that when Golovkin puts Lara to sleep, the first thing Golovkin’s critics are going to say (including those who are right now saying he should fight Lara) is that “Lara was small” and “it proves nothing”.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:48 pm 


Erislandy mi mano
Dumb BTICH he has a title, that is what I said. Doesn’t make him the champ. Floyd is the champ at 154 and Martinez is the champ at 160.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:42 pm 

Igor Sergeyivich Antonenko

Geale turned down the chance to fight GGG. K Chocolate Quillin and Sturm don’t want to know either! GGG knocks them both out on the same night.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:41 pm 


Well saying hard to step up when these guys just wont get in the ring can’t be used when there are fighters calling him out. The difference between Angulo and GGG is that Angulos throws many punches and doesn’t really think about what he is throwing. Like a brawler. GGG is more calculated in his approach. But I agree Lara would not finish the fight, he would be stopped.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:40 pm 


bad match-up for Lara. GGG wins this every time.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:40 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Kid Hammer, Golovkin is a hybrid style fighter, and as such he combines elements from his counter punching amateur days with his new stalk and destroy, Chavez Sr. inspired approach. He likes to stay on the ball of his back foot, and he plants his front foot with a nice knee bend to help generate the most power. With his balance squarely in the middle, he can push off the back foot to land a strong jab or a power shot, but he is also in a great good position to respond defensively. When his opponent presses forward to attack he simply pushes off of the front foot and takes a quick jump step back, resetting himself in one quick step with his front foot flat and his back leg still on the ball of his foot. And as I mentioned earlier, his jab is very strong, he is active with it and it is also very accurate. He put Adama down with a jab in the seventh round, it was lightening fast and had a definite effect on the valiant African.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:39 pm 

Igor Sergeyivich Antonenko

At 160 lbs, Golovkin KO 1 Lara. At 154, maybe a little longer…Golovkin KO 2 Lara. At 154, Golovkin KO 5 F/oyd Mayweather. Once Gennady adjusts and cuts off Mayweather’s escape routes, it’s over. Triple G is the boss at MW.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:38 pm 

Liver Shot

That would be a good fight, Lara would have to be on his toes the whole night. He outlasted Angulo by the skin of his teeth, he would have to do the same to GGG. GGG is better boxer that Angulo and hits just as hard if not harder. It would be an instant classic if this fight can be made, both young in their prime fighters the way it should be.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:36 pm 

Erislandy mi mano

GGG has a title you stupid fvck, and what are you? an internet creep.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:32 pm 


Would be a good fight, but I can’t see Lara coming out of it on his feet. He was life and death with Angulo and was kind’ve lucky to walk away with the win. Golovkin is much more talented than Angulo in just about every aspect of the game.
Likewise, Golovkin won’t get any credit for it given that Lara would be moving up in weight.

As for people saying Golovkins should drop to 154 for the fight, that’s just idiotic. He’s the one with a title, he’s the one brings money to the table and he’s not the one doing the “calling out” here… and yet somehow it’s his responsibility to meet in Lara’s playground??? That’s retarded!

And those saying Golovkin needs to step it up need to start facing facts… the Geale situation shows why it’s not as easy as just “stepping it up” when these guys simply won’t get in the ring.
Geale has really, really disappointed me here. It looks a hell of a lot like all his talk about wanting a Golovkin fight was just hot air. Team Geale turned down the Monte Carlo fight date saying they wanted the April HBO date (this was straight out of Gary Shaw’s mouth).
Now they get offered the April HBO date and suddenly it clashes with something else? It’s a freaking title shot for crying out loud. What clashing event could possibly be more important than this?

Posted February 9, 2014 12:27 pm 


GGG is not yet a champion, only a titlest.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:24 pm 


They actually offered the fight to Rosado at a catchweight of 157. Rosado said no he would rather it be at 160 so there would be no excuses for when he won. But we all know that didn’t happen.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:24 pm 

Kalderetang Aso

Gonzo your a GGG sac licker

Posted February 9, 2014 12:23 pm 

Eagle Eyes

Peej, Rosado came up to 160 because it was for a title fight. Gabe was already the no.1 challenger at 154 for the IBF title, the only reason he took the fight is because he didn’t want to wait on K9, it was the offer of a championship that lured Rosado to take the fight. If Golovkin was offering to come down in weight to fight him I doubt that fight would have happened. Ishida had already moved up to middleweight long before he took the fight with Golovkin, so there was no point in offering him a bout at 154 either. Other than those guys, the only other guy who used to fight at 154 was Ouma, and in that case, similar to Rosado, Ouma came up in weight for a chance to win Golovkin’s interim belt. Gennady is an avoided fighter, without the offer of a belt of some kind these fights could not be made. Now as for fighting Lara, that situation is a little different. Erislandy has just picked up the vacant WBA strap, now he has something that Golovkin might want to get his hands on. Now if Golovkin should move down to 154 to fight him, he will be fighting for the chance to become a multi division champion, and that is something that makes it worth the risk. Having a title in two separate divisions would raise Golovkin’s profile, and maybe even pave the way for a superfight with Floyd, that’s a powerful incentive to lose six extra pounds.
And for the record, Chavez weighed closer to 190 when he fought Martinez, at least by most estimations. He never released his true weight that night, but he was a lot heavier than 180. J’Leon Love weighed 180 when he fought Rosado, and Chavez was a lot bigger than that when he fought Martinez. And he continues to get bigger, he definitely looked like a cruiser weight when he fought Vera.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:13 pm 


It’s time for GGG to step up and fight somebody of quality. He’s this so called monster right? Let’s see what he can do against top fighters cause honest he fights trash bags.

Posted February 9, 2014 12:11 pm 


But GGG is not contracted to HBO. So this should not be an issue.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:52 am 


The fight won’t happen people Lara is with showtime while Golovkin is HBO.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:49 am 

Kid Hammer

For those who watched GGG last fight in Monte Carlo;

what did you take away from this fight regarding GGG?

Was GGG upon his toes, or flat footed, did he work his Jab, etc.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:47 am 


Gonna be sweet when Andy wins this fight. His loss to Vera? Bad stopage, later easily avenged. His loss to Chavez? We all know Chavez is a cheater. Andy will outbox GGG and win the upset of the year.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:46 am 


GGG should come down to 154 and prove his mettle. I have no problems with him but if he fights Lara at Junior Middleweight like he says he can and wins convincingly, he gets my respect as a major player and definite badass.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:44 am 


Ward wasn’t challenging Mayweather when he stated (via Twitter, but later removed) that he would move down to 160 pounds to face him, but that announcement is what really got some fight fans excited about the possibility of a Ward-Mayweather clash.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:37 am 


I never said Ward called out GGG. When I have commented about that fight I said Ward has said he would fight GGG if GGG came up to 168. But once Ward said that GGG and his team backed off the comment of fighting all the way up to light heavy. Also GGG is not that small of a middleweight. There are a lot of 160 pound fighters that weigh 170 on fight night. And there are some that weigh more. Chavez is a good and bad example. He was killing himself to make 160, heck he is killing himself to make 168. And when he comes in fight night he would weight up to like 180 or something. But the simple fact that GGG has never made 154 in his pro career and fought in the 160s in the amateurs makes me believe he can’t make it. I am saying I don’t think he can make 154 and if he could he should prove it by taking a fight at 154. Apparently there are 154 fighters that are willing to face him. Rosado was one of them and apparently Lara is willing to also. But the simple fact that he says they have to fight him at 160 tells me he can’t make the weight. Just like Martinez saying he can make 154 to fight Floyd but when Cotto was interested he said that they had to fight at 160.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:36 am 



Okay, so perhaps Ward has spoken about moving down to 160, but he can hardly have been serious about it (he knew there’s no way Floyd would agree), and already said he’d be badly drained at 160, and would only do it for Floyd, so there’s no way he could make 154. As I say, he walks around at about 190 (said he had to lose 20-30lbs to fight Rodriguez).

Posted February 9, 2014 11:28 am 

Eagle Eyes

Peej, What are you talking about? Ward never called out Golovkin. And as recently as a month ago Andre said that he doesn’t call out other fighters, he says that as a champion it is not his responsibility to call out anyone. And just because Golovkin has never fought at 154 does not mean he can’t make the weight. Golovkin is one of those guys who doesn’t have to drain himself to make weight, and he is not a big middleweight. As a guy who walks around at 167, he only has 13 pounds to lose to make light middleweight, he says he can do it and his coach says the same thing. When you look closely at GGG’s career you can see that he has always been a touch on the small side for middleweight, especially as an amateur. At his heaviest, he has only weighed 170 on fight night, which is much lighter than guys like Chavez, Love, and Murray, and even light middleweights like Canelo and Angulo come into fights at 154 weighing well over 170.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:27 am 

Triple G

Triple G next fight should be Kirkland.who knows

Posted February 9, 2014 11:25 am 


I like Lara, but I like him more at 154. Besides, if Gennady’s comfortable at 160, and he keeps KOing opponents at that weight, why drop up or down to another division. GGG vs. Lee at 160 in April at the Garden, that’s fine by me.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:23 am 


@Eagle Eyes:

Yep, agreed.


I think Peej is right that Ward has not spoken of moving down. Ward walks around at about 190, and is a big super middleweight who started out at light heavy. I think this is another reason he has a big advantage over Froch, who is not a big super middleweight, walks around at about 172, and *has* spoken about the possibility of moving down to face GGG.

It wouldn’t make any sense for Froch to ever move up, but Ward should do: he would be just returning to the division he boxed at as an amateur. However, so long as Kovalev remains unbeaten and waiting for him, and Stevenson keeps KOing people, he’ll stay where he is (Hunter has said that Ward is “not ready yet” to move up!!).

Like Floyd, Ward is not the kind of fighter who is prepared to take risks. Unlike Floyd, however, he doesn’t have a big mouth, so will never make anything like the kind of money Floyd has (the public love to have a pantomime villain to hate).

Posted February 9, 2014 11:22 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

And King Daddy G IS contracted to HBO you wretched imbecile. Just because he can go and fight on some other non HBO rival foreign network once a year doesn’t mean they’ll let him fight on Showtime. ROFL. You don’t even know the details of his contract you moron.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:14 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

PEEG destroyed once again. Do you ever get anything right you dog-brained vegetable? ROFL.

The war of words has ended with a challenge. On Wednesday, WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (43-0, 26KOs) lashed out at WBA/WBC super middleweight king Andre Ward (26-0, 14KOs). He took shots at Ward’s ticket selling abilities. Ward’s manager, James Prince, who used to manage Mayweather years ago, fired several verbal shots right back at Mayweather .

But now Ward himself has come out in the public and challenged Mayweather to a catch-weight fight at 160-pounds. Mayweather has never fought higher than 154, but Ward is willing to drain his body to head eight pounds south. Mayweather defends his title against Ward’s close friend, Robert Guerrero, on May 4th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Ward stated on the social networks – “Lil Floyd says he spars middleweights. He is the only man I will sacrifice coming to 160 for. He won’t take that bait!!!”

Back later.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:10 am 


Ward never said he could make 160 to fight Floyd. That was Hopkins. And everybody knows that isn’t gonna happen anyways. Hopkins is too big. Sorry but you make no sense yet again. The so called most feared fighter has been called out by a couple of fighters now and yall keep making excuses on why it can’t happen. GGG is not contracted to HBO so there should be no issue of him fighting once on showtime. Besides Lara didn’t indicate it had to be at 154. I am merely stating it won’t be at 154 because GGG can’t make 154. Proof is he hasn’t made 154 in his pro career and he didn’t fight in the 150s in the amateurs. And like I said I think he beats Lara. I am not high on Lara at all. But if he turns the fight down then I guess we could safely say he is ducking Lara. And all this garbage of illegal tactics, just stop.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:08 am 

Eagle Eyes

Martin, good comments. I had given up on the possibility of Golovkin ever getting a fight with Mayweather, but this has the potential to change things, especially if the fight is held at 154. I kind of doubt that it will be at 154, but you never know, and even 157 would give us a little indication of how Golovkin performs a couple of pounds lighter. If he looked good at 157, then 154 is a definite possibility. But I have to say that this fight will get people talking about Floyd again, Lara and Golovkin are the two most mentioned names for Floyd outside of the welterweight division, if they agree to fight each other then it will definitely get people wondering if the winner should be given a shot at him.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:05 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn aka The New Edgar Allen Poe

PEEJ.. if Andre Ward says he can make 160 for Floyd, then let’s see him do it for Triple Golovkin, right? And let’s see him go over to neutral territory like Astana, Kazakhstan for it too, with a Kazakh referee and no American judges. Let’s see him beat Triple Golovkin without all those illegal tactics his promoter’s corrupt referees conveniently allow him to routinely allow him to get away with him at home, especially all that offence neutralizing illegal holding with his style is so heavily reliant on.

Regarding the Lara fight, it ain’t going to happen. Lara is doing a Peter Chocolate, shouting out King Daddy G’s name from behind the safety fence of the Cold War. King Daddy G has said recently that they’ll only go to ’54 for Floyd, too.

Posted February 9, 2014 11:03 am 


Exactly! might as well fight a JMW since wants non of SOG.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:59 am

Don’t want to see GGG vs Andy Lee.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:58 am 


There shouldn’t really be any weight issues. If GGG says he can make 154 for a Floyd fight then lets see him actually make 154.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:50 am 

Mr gav

Lara is certainly the best choice for April, hes on good form and a world champion. He has a good style that will be looking to avoid punches and throw counters. A good test for GGG and I hope this fight happens, but I think weight issues will destroy this fight happening for now anyway.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:32 am 


I doubt he takes this at 154 since there has been other 154 fighters he fought but they had to come up to 160. I am not sold on Lara but if he is willing to come up to 160 since like I said GGG won’t go to 154, but if he does not accept this challenge then all of the other talk about GGG is being ducked needs to stop. I think he will beat Lara. But I find it funny that when these fighters that are so called ducked by other fighters, yet you always find someone calling them out. Happened with Margacheato and Williams, happened with Williams and can’t think of his name but the fighter that beat him on points the first time. Someone is always willing to accept the challenge. Problem is, is the ducked fighter willing to accept theirs.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:31 am 


But *in* any case, even….

Posted February 9, 2014 10:13 am 


@Eagle Eyes

In that case, I should think 154 is doable for him (after all, I’m pretty sure Alvarez walks around at more than 167). It might be wise for him to agree to fight Lara at a catchweight (e.g. 157), and then if he beats Lara, especially if he does so by KO or a wide points UD, then GGG-Mayweather will start looking like a real possibility. He could perhaps fight Alvarez at 154 after Lara, and if he wins that comfortably, surely Floyd will get as much pressure to fight GGG as he has had to fight Pacquiao. He may duck GGG just as he’s been ducking Pacquiao, but then it will be obvious to absolutely everyone. On the other hand, we don’t yet know if GGG is good enough to beat Lara and/or Alavarez. But it any case, they’d be great fights to watch.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:12 am 


Ok maybe not USA with mundine.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:04 am 


That’s right his manager said he’d fight anyone from 154 to 175 so get it done. Lara.could also make good money fighting mundine in Australia or USA.

Posted February 9, 2014 10:03 am 

Eagle Eyes

Martin, Golovkin walks around at 167.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:59 am 


I think mundine is after a Lara fight don’t know if they have discussed this yet and I can’t see Lara coming down under but this is what I’ve heard.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:58 am 


I definitely think Lara has a chance at 154 but he needs to keep moving the entire fight other wise its all over I have a feeling ggg power will follow him either side of 160.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:53 am 


I think it depends what GGG walks around at, and how difficult it is for him to lose the weight to get to 160. If he walks around at only around 165 anyway and has never has any problem making 160, 154 should easily be doable, but if he walks around at 175 or 180, it’d probably be unwise.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:51 am 


Anthony mundine is a super middle.weight campaining at Jr middleweight he has the size but I dought his chin would hold up just look what Sven ottke done. I think it would be interesting to say the least.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:43 am 


GGG says he can make 154 let’s see if he will indeed take Lara at 154. My guess is, he won’t. Lara beats GGG at 154, if he’s man enough to come down.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:21 am 

Jimmy Shimmy

GGG wins, KO1, inside 24 seconds of the first round.

Posted February 9, 2014 9:05 am 


Interesting call out to GGG by Lara. I think GGG flattens Lara @ 160, but Lara beats GGG @ 154 via UD.

Let’s make it happen, preferably @ 154, so we can see the other stuff GGG is or is not made of!


Posted February 9, 2014 8:35 am 


Andy Lee was KO’d by Vera, who has a 46% KO record, so we already know the outcome of a GGG-Lee fight. Lee is not even in the top 20 at 160, whereas Lara is in the top 2 or 3 at 154. If GGG wants us to believe that he really wants to fight the best out there, he really needs to take this fight. I also think he should be aiming to move down to position himself so that people can start demanding a GGG-Mayweather showdown. GGG is not a big middleweight, and I think he’d struggle up at 168, but if he can lose 6lbs and retain his power, GGG vs Mayweather could be a Mega Fight, and he’d get paid so much he’d never have to work again. I don’t think GGG walks around at much more than 160 anyway, so it shouldn’t be too difficult for him to move down.

Posted February 9, 2014 8:33 am 


Woop Woop, floyd is light middle champion of the world. GGG said he would fight him at 154 lb. what’s the problem?

Posted February 9, 2014 8:31 am 


Yes, GGG should definitely take this, even if it’s at a catchweight (after all, if he ever wants to be in a position to fight Mayweather — a fight we’d all love to see — he’d have to be able to go down to at least 154.) Whatever the case, very glad that someone has the balls to call GGG out. I agree that Andy Lee would be a mismatch. Let’s hope no BS gets in the way of making this happen, because there are far too few world-class fights worth watching being made these days.

Posted February 9, 2014 8:21 am 

Woop Woop

Yes, this is exactly what GGG would be waiting for. Another Jnr Middle to blow up into the Middle division. Let’s see GGG go down to 154lb, after all he did bravely challenge Welterweight Floyd. Yep, GGG would be salivating at beating up another little guy. Smoke and mirrors with a big dose of hype = GGG freight train. Chooooooooo!!! Choooooooo!!!!!

Posted February 9, 2014 8:06 am 

one eye

FOTY if it happens.

Posted February 9, 2014 7:46 am 


You gota like the Cubans; they really want to fight the best out there.

Posted February 9, 2014 7:32 am 


the beating lara would absorb in such a proposed confrontation would be unprecedented

Posted February 9, 2014 7:08 am 


I want you to realize it by all means.

Posted February 9, 2014 6:48 am 

The Mad Scientist

I like this fight make it happen

Posted February 9, 2014 6:41 am 


Great fight

Posted February 9, 2014 5:29 am 


Mouth watering fight ….. Hope this fight gets made.

Posted February 9, 2014 5:17 am 


GGG vs Lara on april 26

Posted February 9, 2014 5:06 am 


GGG vs Lara. i hope their promoters can work this out and make the fight happen. agree to the terms that are beneficial to both fighters. ggg vs andy lee? it’s not going to help golovkin’s career. sorry andy fans.

Posted February 9, 2014 5:03 am 

Sant Flores

Wow, can’t wait for this fight to happen now!!!!

Posted February 9, 2014 5:02 am 

Sant Flores

Perfect let it happen and for the doubters make it at 154 but my respects to Lara for calling out GGG. A perfect fight for GGG and Lara, yes let’s get it on!!!

Posted February 9, 2014 5:00 am 


Now this would be a good fight.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:59 am 

Ray Ray

Sergio & the other duckers? Sergio’s resume is far more impressive than GGG. Sergio deserves the right 2 cash in on a Cotto than possible Floyd fight…as promising as GGG looks against B-grade guys he can’t give Sergio that kind of cash….lots of people think GGG is avoided? Well the challenge has been made…..balls in his court. Lets c who’s ducking? I’d love 2 c GGG challenged 4 once this could b a good fight?

Posted February 9, 2014 4:47 am 


Ok Andre

Posted February 9, 2014 4:43 am 

not happening

Golovkin on HBO..Lara on Showtime

Posted February 9, 2014 4:40 am 


Why not? Since the biggest task at 160 seems to be running from GGG, he could fight a JMW with bigger balls than Martinez and the other duckers.

Posted February 9, 2014 4:21 am 

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