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the terms was 40mil flat no payed ppv,that wsa the terms.

Posted January 8, 2013 10:53 pm 


Your right men! Floyd is just blah blah blah…if he wants Pacman to fight so be it that is what Pacman is waiting, but Floyd is afraid so many excuses if he is the best proved in the ring not just blah blah blah!

Posted November 30, 2012 9:49 pm 

third world

they will crucify you for your comment and all i can say is you are passionate but probably young and thats o.k. pryor is the greatest 140 ever!sanchez is one of the top 126 ever,acyually you have done your homework except the mancini vote.great drama,but not an all time great.

Posted November 12, 2012 4:22 am 

third world

thank you

Posted November 12, 2012 4:13 am 






Posted November 11, 2012 8:26 am 


D=Weezy Boy, it is quite strange the contents of your comments strayed all over the place thus making it sound so incredibly irrelevnt. Commentators speak of Floyds continued show of fear in squaring off with the pacman, in reference to his claims that he is the greatest. You simply cannot be the greatest if you have not beaten the obvious boxer who is calling him out to square off in the ring, not because the pacman is delusional or someone lacking merits. Pacman accepted all the terms which mayweather demanded, but look mayweather is nowhere to even say something about it. You are entitled to your own opinion but you are not accepting the real fact that mayweather isnt good enough to beat the pacman, however superlative mayweather is to you. And this is the reason why the fight is not happening. N0 one disputes the fact that he has money, but boxing folks are not talking about his money, they are talking about the fact that mayweather doubts himself beating the guy who badly beat folks whom he had difficulty in beating. The difference is so glaring and you should stop making excuses on his behalf because it is a hard sell no matter what.

Posted October 31, 2012 5:44 pm 


Mayweather continues to duck this fight. Its clear to see now, with Pacquaio taking 45% to Mayweathers 55%, and agreeing to all the drugs testing malarkey. Grow some Mayweather, and fight Pacquiao.

Posted October 29, 2012 7:02 am 


The reason Floyd is hated is bcuz he talks alot of about being the best & how great he is. Can i remind everyone of 2 things; #1 Almost every boxer at some point will proclaim they’re the best. #2 Floyd proclaimed being the best, the difference is Floyd actually is & has been for a long time now. He has skills & numbers to back it up. Truth is nobody is as relevant in boxing as Floyd Mayweather Jr. If he wasnt, he wouldn’t have haters following & buying his ppv fights. P4P king. The point of working in life is to eventually ‘BE YOUR OWN BOSS & CALL YOUR OWN SHOTS’. Why work for Arum forever? Pacquaio is an employee, Floyd is a boss. Floyd’s been paying GoldenBoy a flat fee, NOT a percentage, to help promote his fights since 2008, so staying an un-signed allows Floyd to keep majority of his earnings. Its the reason why Floyd was named #1 by forbes for worlds richest athlete with NO endorsments. Pac has endorsments plus boxing earnings & still is #2 behind Floyd. Ppl talk how Pac is so loved all over the world & has more fans than Floyd, but where are they at ppv time?? Floyd beats him in ppv. Ppl brag about how Pac holds congressional office in Phillipines, but he dont control his own boxing career. Someone explain that. He can promote his own fights with his name alone. A Floyd vs Pac fight wouldnt need much help of a major promoter. I just dont get it. Is Pac really that dumb to re-sign?…Or is something else going on?? Does Arum know something about the PED’s story that we dont.. And anyway Floyd would beat Pacquaio, 4yrs ago or today. Whether ur a boxing fan or a boxers’ fan, you gotta accept truth. Everyone who’s so wrapped up in Floyd’s legal & personal troubles just remember these 2 things; #1 HE’S FILTHY RICH….#2 HE DOESNT KNOW YOU. Either waste your time judging his personal life …or his exceptional boxing talent. Dont mix the two. Alot boxers are undefeated…but name one of those undefeated who has reached the level of success as FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.

Posted October 21, 2012 5:20 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Edit* Eminem

Posted October 14, 2012 3:03 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Lol Rich.. I knew it wasn’t a good idea to download that Emiinem album and start hanging around with my little brother’s mates. What on Earth was I thinking of? lol.

Posted October 14, 2012 3:02 pm 


I knew that wasn’t our fun loving gimme a man hug Gonzo….The real Gonzo is in a straight-jacket some where still trying to bite a screw and singing “I’ll be home for Xmas”………..

Posted October 12, 2012 4:41 am 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Apologies Richie baby.. Someone must have spiked my drink with an industrial dose of wigger juice. The real Gonzo is back now. Phew! That was touch and go for a second… thought I was never gonna come down from that trip. Apologies to Guapo too. Viva Guatemala! Anyway, back to business. F.U.C.K that cowardly fraud Money Mayweather and Andre Ward and all their byatch ass fans. Real talk.

Posted October 11, 2012 7:43 pm 


I think i’ll come back on here when ESB gets this sorted,say in a few years…….

Posted October 11, 2012 7:29 pm 

te tumbo

it’s always been “just bu$ine$$” for “Money”. it’s Punkuiao* who made it personal to avoid his P4P challenge Aaand random testing.

Posted October 11, 2012 7:23 pm 


Nothing like pactards floydiots arguing over bs like who’s better while their idols never fight each other too funny.

Posted October 11, 2012 7:02 pm 


In FACT Pacquiao is the one who is in danger of being knocked out.

Posted October 11, 2012 5:13 pm 


If you think Pac is going to knockout Marquez then you’ve lost your marbles. Did you even WATCH the last Fight? Pac LOST 2 out of every 3 rounds.

Posted October 11, 2012 5:12 pm 


JMM’s advantage with Manny is that he has fought Manny alot to came up with the right fight plan. JMM is a Pacquiao specialist. No any fighter that fought Manny was able to fight him the way JMM did. Morales? Nah. Got his ass handed to him. And JMM clearly knows how to trade with Manny. Floyd can adjust very well to any fighter. But not Manny. Victor Ortiz landed a good couple right hands on Floyd. Victor facking Ortiz lol. Pac’s barrage will surely rain down on Floyd’s brittle bones. Bradley got his arrogant and running ass handed to him by Pac, his legs are still pegged even after 4 months. 4 months! lol!

Posted October 11, 2012 4:09 pm 


Tark, Pacquiao is an old dog who is pretty much done learning new tricks he is NOT going to be terrific with masterful counterpunchers absent muting his aggression which allowed Marquez to be in control most of the last bout…. Pac Man is a guy who loves to trade and is aggressive, when he starts trying to play “A thinking mans game” he looks bad….

Posted October 11, 2012 4:00 pm 


Prime or not, Manny will destroy Mayweather’s 0. By UD, SD, MD, TKO or KO. Floyd idolizes Manny, that is why all he can do is badmouth him outside the ring. Fighting him in it, will take a whole lot of courage lol. Manny will expose this undefeated chump.

Posted October 11, 2012 4:00 pm 


Manny might get JMM outta there but the record will show it took him 4 fights to finally close this guy out impressively… But if the same fight occurs next time out then we have Pac Mans rep further diminished… Great fighter but he has a KNOWN liability and its high quality counterpunching…

Posted October 11, 2012 3:34 pm 


Tark, Manny has been determined to KO Marquez for 36 rounds and it has NOT happened… Each time out JMM was more effective and hit the deck LESS…. 1st fight 3 times, 2nd fight 1 time 3rd fight he did not hit the deck for a second…. Manny is ALWAYS looking to knock a guy out you love to pretend you know what a guy is thinking when he throws hard shots at a mans head… Truth is that Pac Man hits guys with all he has and at WW they have NOT been falling like they did when he was under 140… He is still a damaging puncher but the reality is that he cannot close deals the same way NOR be counted on to do so (hence Roach looking like a fool)…. Forget the narratives that have him being kind or trying to carry guys the reality is that he has not been stopping his foes at WW…… FACT

Posted October 11, 2012 3:31 pm 


Pacquiao stopped DLH and Cotto with an accumulation of hard punches… He’s not looking to knock Welterweights out with one shot, but to punish the Hell out of them until they quit.. Clottey gave away every round but the 12th trying to get Pac to throw and throw until he got very tired and maybe vulnerable for one big late shot where he could hurt him and then take him out. The Mike Weaver strategy vs John Tate. Mosley also waited all night for one shot that never came. Shane gave the fight away looking for gold… Marquez is a steel chinned guy who’s almost impossible to hurt and has never been stopped. This coming fight will be the first time he’s ever KTFO… Pacquiao is very determined to knock Marquez out and set up a Mayweather fight. He wants to recapture that youthful savagery and aggression like he had in the Morales rematch and rubbermatch, to knock Marquez dead cold.. Marquez in a very technical counterpuncher like Floyd, and the fact Pac’s is fighting him for the 4th time is the perfect primer. He needs to get a handle on this style.

Posted October 11, 2012 3:26 pm 


Kenny yeah the thud of the bag is a better example i was just trying to odviously explain that the lbs of pressure from Pacs punch would measure higher than full sized against a stationary target without a brain.

Posted October 11, 2012 3:02 pm 


Floyd Mayweather is supremely confident when the bell sounds, and Pacquiao looked like a lost man as the rounds wore on against Marquez… He literally looked exuberant and surprised when he got the nod…. When is the last time FMJ was wondering if he was going to get the win at the end of a bout?? Pacquiao has seen his stock and reputation take a hit while Mayweather’s is on the rise last fight FMJ 1.5 million buys, belt won at 154… Pac Man UNDER 1million buys, robbed, then coming off a getting what MANY consider a gift against Marquez… People are saying he has lost it and he has conceded a possible 10% to Mayweather which amounts to MILLIONS of dollars should they meet….Reality is that Mayweather is the rising tide while Manny has something to prove which he has not in quite a bit… I see no mental edge for Pac Man who has been clearly inserted below Mayweather, Manny is being downgraded by some beneath Martinez and Ward (I don’t agree)…. But Floyds in the drivers seat like he loves to be…

Posted October 11, 2012 2:49 pm 


Sred lol yeah bcuz i think its odvious i need closure on this.

Posted October 11, 2012 2:46 pm 


Another intangable i use is i think Pac has the mental advantage. Judging by the comments Floyd has made about concerns for his health tells me Pac is in his head especially if he truly believes Pac is juicing if so he was odviously impressed with Pac. But on the flip side if u have power and a beard like Pacs u pretty much feel invincible. Floyd certainly believes in his skills for good reason but i dont think he feels indestructable.

Posted October 11, 2012 2:43 pm 


REM, at the end of the day you are right its best for this to play out in the ring it has to be one of the longest running fantasy matchups in boxing history that COULD happen… The winner goes to an entirely different level..If it does not happen in 2013, assuming they both continue to win each guy should be shot so we can all move on… LOL

Posted October 11, 2012 2:28 pm 



Posted October 11, 2012 2:25 pm 


Sred yeah im drawing from moments in fights that Floyd did eventually win without much trouble and when ur making the argument for the underdog u use intangables bcuz most measurables favor the favorite. My best argument is just that Pac is significantly better than those who failed b4 him and i do think we will finally find out in 2013 where if Floyd beats Pac like ive said b4 i will personally stamp him a goat.

Posted October 11, 2012 2:13 pm 

Kenny Weldon

I meant inexperienced boxer….and I wish I could puntuate better…too many right hands to my chin I guess…..God bless….kenny weldon

Posted October 11, 2012 1:41 pm 

Kenny Weldon

One other thing,they can be used to show off the coach and an inexperienced coach at a boxing show or tournament .I have always loved watching them show off .It gives the opposing coach access to everything the boxer can not do. Your boxer wins by what his opponent does bad or can not do,not what he and his coach can do good.My boxer just went from a “pea shooter” to a machine gun.My opponent and his coaches ego,just got them beat……God bless…..kenny weldon…

Posted October 11, 2012 1:34 pm 

Kenny Weldon

Hand pads or mitts are for the purpose of teaching fundamental correctness,positioning ,bumps,turns,variations,range,fluidity,ballance , getting out of a corners,off the ropes,pursuit,retreat,defense,reaction punches and how to position for specific punches or moves a boxer needs to execute with a specific opponent .Handpads gives the coach the oppertunity to instruct his boxer techniqly,mentally and physically up close and personal.Every aspect of what goes on inside those ropes by two boxers can be enhanced
by the correct use of handpads.Not just power,but all the above.What handpads can not do is teach natural power. Natural power is born,not taught……God bless…..kenny weldon

Posted October 11, 2012 1:23 pm 


I mean seriously man if mitt work translated into KO’s then Pac Man should have stopped his last 5 opponents…. POWER is demonstrated in the ring and the reality is that Manny is a guy who has to wait for the judges at 147…

Posted October 11, 2012 1:00 pm 


REM I guess you are just NOT results driven… Cotto fought a good fight but he was NOT successful losing widely, geting busted up and almost landing on his face in the 12th…. Do you see the flaw in your argument? You are trying to build a thesis from CLEAR Mayweather wins…Its damn near impossible when the Pac Man aura has been eroded over his last few performances…. The guy is not the same fighter and time seems to have been kinder to the defensive master (Mayweather) than it has Manny who is not producing the volume and overwhelming guys…. Above 140 the numbers say Manny is a BELOW average threat to actually knock guys out….

Posted October 11, 2012 12:43 pm 


Sred only intelligent to assume Pac loses via ud also lol good one. Even though those fights took place years ago Cottos sucsess with the left tells me he is still vulnerable just like with Oscar and 2 fights prior to that was Zab. Ortiz i was shocked to fight out fight night he was a righthander who fought in the southpaw stance its important to have a strong effective left first and formost thats the weaker side of Floyds defense. His best punch is the right hook but still he was able to effectively win 1 round out of 4 because of the southpaw stance. Bro i dont think anyone Floyd has fought punch with the power that Pac does even though they’re bigger i but dont think they’re popping the mitts and thudding the bag like Pac. Those dudes Pac didnt stop only Marquez was trying to win and Margo paid a steep price for finishing. Only his 20lb weight advantage kept him standing.

Posted October 11, 2012 12:22 pm 


Tark, you bring up Ray Leonard who despite his Greatness did NOT display the level of committment to fitness that Mayweather has…. Ray was snorting blow and was mentally out of the game far more than FMJ…You were the SAME guy who initially was giving Ortiz a real shot until it got closer to the fight using this SAME Leonard/Norris example…. Fact is that Floyd is a BETTER older age than Ray Leonard EVER was…. Floyd will be 36 in Feb and he has still not lost nor hit the deck…. Ray was getting retired and having Norris abuse him by 34….

Posted October 11, 2012 12:05 pm 


All of ducker Floyd’s chicken flock are always crowing with their idol that Floyd will surely beat Manny up and down and side to side in the ring bur their hero ain’t got the spurs to go with the crowing – enough of this clucking already and fight – IN THE RING !! . Your ducker idol ha already lost twice to the Filipino midget in the court of law and ordered to issue a public apology (a public castration to the criminal clan) and it is time to settle evrything in the RING !!! Man up – you represent the land of the free and the brave. You are free but are you brave?

Posted October 11, 2012 12:03 pm 


Manny Pacquiao is a dangerous fighter, a few years ago he was the MOST dangerous boxer in the sport… But the story is out on Pac Man and his foes are emboldened and Roaches KO predictions have become cause for laughter…Marquez made those childlike 7-1 odds look nonsensical and the narrative for Pac has NOW become is he going to win? NOT is he gonna knock anyone out…. I felt he would stop Bradley, yet once again a SMALL fighter coming up from 140 was able to do the full 12 and looked BETTER in the latter rounds than he did earlier…. Anyone who thinks Floyd Mayweather will underperform Tim Bradley is simply hoping against hope…. The last guy who hurt Mayweather was a conventional fighter (Shane Mosley) who is a BIGGER puncher at higher weights than Manny Pacquiao, Shane has blasted guys at 147-154 meanwhile guys are still trying to prop up his KO percentage at WW which is UNDER 50%….Mayweather handled Cottos fire with style and damn near had him on his face in the 12th…. FMJ is a beast, Pac Man has not smoked a guy with one shot since the defenseless Ricky Hatton at 140

Posted October 11, 2012 11:43 am 


REM you are projecting the SAME Pacquiao who could not drop Bradley, Bradley, Margo, Clottey or OLD Mosley into stopping or putting Mayweather down….???? Its a stretch Floyd is 3 times the fighter that the best of that lot is…. ANYTHING can happen in boxing but if you want to make a sound argument we have to work from probabilities…. Mayweather has NEVER been legit put on his ass, and Manny has stopped 2 guys via TKO at WW and those were YEARS ago… You are trying to sell Floyd as having a special vulnerability to Manny Pacquiao that has little basis in fact….Beating Corley and Judah via UD YEARS ago does not auger well for Pac Man in 2012… I notice you omit his recent encounter with a YOUNG, BIG southpaw because he outboxed and knocked the youngster out (Ortiz) I know you are looking for an angle but the (Southpaw story) has not resulted in anything LESS than a UD win….So if you are going to build your thesis off the results of Corley and Judah its only intelligent to assume Manny will lose via UD…..Floyd has fought bigger punchers at 147 and above than Manny accept that fact….

Posted October 11, 2012 11:28 am 


Tark, the only reason you are harping on Mayweather getting a bloody nose during a boxing match which is about as common for MOST boxers as guys liking Megan Foxes tits is because he simply has avoided abuse better than anyone…. Mayweather is older but his defensive prowess was NEVER solely based on fresh legs, he is lethal while in the pocket or on the ropes….Mayweathers new style has resulted in him cracking guys with harder shots and being the aggressor, Manny was pretty much outboxed by Marquez last time out and despite deserving the win over Bradley he still look FAR less dynamic than he did even 2 years ago…. Pac Man’s advantages have NEVER been as skill based, he has largely relied on being a superior athlete to his opponents against Mayweather that all goes out the window and the SKILL disparity will be pretty well demarcated by Floyds boxing acumen….

Posted October 11, 2012 11:19 am 


Sred the original name of it is the phillyshell which im sure u know Floyds not the first to use it im sure u know that too and its useless in the orthodox stance against the southpaw stance. Pac drugging or dropping Floyd is a very realistic possibility and he will be under serious threat every moment of every round. Im sure Floyd still has vivid memories of eating clean flush shots upstairs from the likes of Judah and Corley and im sure he still doesnt fully understand y judging by how out of position and off balance he was when Zab landed that check hook. Then the adjustment he made he doesn’t want to have to fight Pac like that. Yeah he can follow Marquez blueprint but the danger levels will still be very high for him. Bottom line Floyd know this aint easy money.

Posted October 11, 2012 11:16 am 

Bakie Longta

True sport fans know that Floyd & his team are doing everything to avoid Pacquiao no matter how much money at stake. He stated clearly his concern about his health & bragging his smartness for not facing PAC. Floyd wants to grow old healthy rather than very wealthy but crippled. I agree that’s smart so let’s stop saying that Floyd will beat Pacquiao if they fight..that’s nonsense.

Posted October 11, 2012 11:07 am 


Pac ain’t the only one getting old Sred… Floyd is OLDER than Pac and he hasn’t been very active—so ring rust is building slowly but surely, getting right down into those aging joints. Floyd will be 36 when he fights again—and Sugar Ray Leonard got the living crap beaten out of him at age 34, when Ray was taking 9 months off between fights. I mean, everyone expected Leonard to beat the chinny Terry Norris right??? …Seems to me Floyd was cracked with quite a few hard shots in his last fight—and what was all that red stuff coming out of Floyd’s nose holes??? Those king sized Q-tips were coming out red as cherry tomatoes.

Posted October 11, 2012 10:59 am 


You guys can try all the buzzwords you want as it pertains to Mayweathers defensive style “Philly Shell” “Shoulder Roll” ect…The net result is massive frustration for his opponents and an edge in the ring that Manny Pacquiao will fall prey to just like everyone else…Pacman is not some sort of boxing wizard, at his best he was a combo of speed, stamina, dynamism, power and movement… These elements are still in play albeit to a lessor degree…We have all seen him befuddled by an OLDER small counterpuncher, he is going to be eaten alive by a bigger FAR more talented counterpuncher like Mayweather Jr…. Pacquiao does not have Cottos bulk or size to even push Floyd to the ropes, he is gonna be eating jabs and getting capped by straight right hands as the night wears on…Pac of 2009 would have made a better bout of it and still lost but this version stands to get badly humiliated…

Posted October 11, 2012 9:12 am 



Posted October 11, 2012 8:29 am 


Floyd in a world of chickens, is the rooster with the loudest crow but the smallest spurs.

Posted October 11, 2012 5:56 am 


would you believe if this fight will have a rematch then a third one..? pac will win the first fight, simply because of barrage of punches from round one to finish.. the fire will engulf the fear then determines the winner. it will be close though and controversial as always. floyd will win the second fight. technical skills and natural talents counterpunching plus defense will do the trick. simply again because floyd is challenged by now. angered and stimulated hehe.. the third fight, well, come what may.

Posted October 11, 2012 2:52 am 


Could Pacman KO the best defensive boxer of all time after not scoring any KO’s for a long time??? Yes he possibly could. Why not? Weird things happen in Boxing and that’s why you fight the fights … There’s no sure winner or loser. There’s just odds.

Posted October 11, 2012 12:56 am 


B4 i go sorry slick u wrote more than just the Cotto comment we can argue testing and whos avoiding who forever as far as the matchup yes i think for Floyd to score enough he will have to b sumwhat braver than usual bcuz his defense changes up with a southpaw. He wont b able shoulder roll potshot then move out without getting touched hes gonna have to plug it out a bit. Depending on how much sucsess Pac has will determine how much Floyd will have to open up and Pac will score on Floyds standard defense with no phillyshell.

Posted October 11, 2012 12:00 am 


pac is a filli rat, who already got his ass beat down

Posted October 10, 2012 11:52 pm 


Floyd works the body very well

Posted October 10, 2012 11:49 pm 


Sred Judahs talent level was above a C but that’s what he reduced himself to with poor work ethic. And no doubt if Marquez could push Pac the way he did Floyd is cabable of worse but Floyd simply wont do the things Marquez did. He wont attack the body like Marquez did and he wont throw combos behind his counters. Always good debating with u i know my boys the underdog but i gotta c Floyd whoop a southpaw like Pac without the shoulder roll im out l8tr fellas catch y’all tomorrow.

Posted October 10, 2012 11:45 pm 


Slick Cotto would do what he did anytime anywhere under any circumstance against Floyd bcuz hes lefthanded thats y Oscar landeed the jab and Corley and Judah had more sucsess than righthanded fighters.

Posted October 10, 2012 11:33 pm 


If you are going to say that Manny would be able to handle Floyd based on Corley and Judah who he dominated by consensus what conclusions are we to draw from watching Manny lose MOST of the 36 rounds to Marquez, KD’s being the deciding factor in his favor??? Meanwhile Mayweather did not let Marquez win a single second of the fight after a 21 month layoff??????? Ominous signs for the Great Manny Pacquiao, he had SERIOUS drama with a guy that despite his own skills (Marquez) could not hold Floyds jock in the ring…..Mayweather UD as per usual, Pacquiao cannot adjust if he could he would have been more impressive against Marquez whereas we see JMM able to adjust during 3 bouts and push Pac Man to the wall…. Plan A (slugging) will never work with FMJ and Manny has no Plan B that would be adequate…. What box Floyds ears off?? LOL

Posted October 10, 2012 10:11 pm 


Judah was NOT a C level fighter when he faced Mayweather lets be accurate despite being upset by Baldomir he was still known as one of the most talented in the sport…Only later did he become a serial quitter and chump!! Mayweather figured him out, beat him up and made him look like a front runner…. Floyd did not have a scratch and Zab was busted up, while Mayweather toyed with him in the latter rounds and pushed him thru the ropes…. Sad that you are trying to use a UD win 6 or 7 years ago to show how the now slugging Manny Pacquiao is going to contend with a master boxer

Posted October 10, 2012 9:43 pm 


Floyd Mayweather is a FAR better defender than Juan Manuel Marquez who has been buzzed by the likes of Diaz, put on his but by Katsidis and put down 4 times by Pacquiao… Floyd literally beat Marquez 12-0 in rounds, this is ASTOUNDING considering the fighter that JMM is…Sadly Manny is the same damn size, but stronger and faster….He would get used by FMJ

Posted October 10, 2012 9:39 pm 


I just can’t see a fighter with only offense and no defense beating Floyd

Posted October 10, 2012 9:39 pm 


REM you are smoking. Cotto doing well was about what FMJ didn’t do more than what Cotto did. FMJ traded. Cotto was in a much better place and NOT weight drained. Night and day.

Pac has ZERO chance against Mayweather after his inability to track down Mosley (like all Roach fighters), defeat to Marquez, and Bradley completely shutting down his offense. Pac’s only hope is Mayweather playing brave. This isn’t even counting the fact that Pac has yet to have a fully drug tested fight to Mayweather’s standards so we don’t know if the Pac who was average looking then would even show up.

Face it. Pac is smoke and mirrors. He knows it. That is exactly why he kept riding that gravy train instead of fighting Mayweather.

Posted October 10, 2012 9:30 pm 


And imo the difference between Floyd and Marquez is physical size, speed and athleticism i wouldn’t say anyone has a skill level 3x that of Marquez.

Posted October 10, 2012 9:11 pm 


Complete nonsense. Mayweather gave Manny more than he deserved the first time and only asked for testing. Manny ducked. Now Manny has had poor showings against both Marquez and Bradley and now Manny is asking for MORE than he deserves now. One man is stopping this fight. Manny.

Posted October 10, 2012 8:51 pm 


Manny Pacquiao has hardly a shot on the planet of stopping Floyd Mayweather and he sure as hell cannot outbox him… The guy is reduced to a slugger against Marquez who is about 3 leagues below Floyd when it comes to skill and talent… Even JMM gives Pac NO shot against Floyd…. I hate to dismiss Manny but Floyd has ALWAYS been better but this version of Manny would not offer much except a solid chin and a UD loss on his record…

Posted October 10, 2012 8:31 pm 


HaHaHa are you really going to predicate Pacs chances on sparring myths about Paul Spadafora? Guess we should have listened to Khan when he said he was getting the better of Manny in sparring then got knocked out by Garcia… Cotto is a terrific fighter and the fact that he gave Floyd a solid effort at 154 is no surprise, but AGAIN he was beaten up and discussing how hard it was to hit Floyd clean post fight….. Zab Judah was bleeding from every orifice when he began fouling to get out of the bout…. Floyd has NEVER lost thats why you just discussed two UD wins and a sparring session to create an opportunity for Pac Man that does not exist…

Posted October 10, 2012 8:28 pm 


This is what drives me crazy the condesending dismissal of Pac if they were to match up mark my words i said Cotto would give sum trouble with his good timing and jab and would leave his mark on Floyds face. I said Cotto isnt all those other guys that got shut out and i was right. Cotto just didnt have any off the chart attributes to match Floyds like i said and the orthodox stance would allow Floyd to use all his tools. Pac has the tools to get it done off the charts speed, power and footwork out of the southpaw stance. Pac wont have nowhere near the trouble scoring as others have had on Floyd bcuz Floyd wont have the phillyshell to climb into. Floyd will land sum nice lead rights but wont be able to counter much bcuz of his style. Zab scorched Floyd in the middle of the ring bcuz Floyd wasnt comfortable with the angles of a southpaw he was confused and off balance and got dropped by a check hook. I mean for christ sake Paul Spadfora outboxed Floyd in a sparring session smh. Like i always say good thing Floyd knows and isnt as disissive of Pac as his fans. Pac wins at least 4 rounds and up to 8 if he doesn’t if he doesn’t tko Floyd on the ropes. I ain’t even got to say y’all already know Pac ain’t none of them other dudes

Posted October 10, 2012 8:13 pm 


It always has been business for floyd,what you idiots thought otherwise?Of course you did you all believe everything he feeds down your throat him & pac.Floyd would pick pac apart,if he only had the balls though lol.

Posted October 10, 2012 8:01 pm 


Really enjoyed that article, something I haven’t said about any on this site in a long time. It will be the last fight of both of the careers, with the exception that the winner may fight Canelo.

Posted October 10, 2012 7:43 pm 


i say no !!!!!!!! on hall of fame for mayweather …. it’s just business .. b.s ,scared …………..

Posted October 10, 2012 6:26 pm 

a fool and his money are soon parted

So it’s the fault of the fan.
Stupid fans, you’ll buy anything

Posted October 10, 2012 6:14 pm 


let’s be real !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if everyone in the world put $1 each to see mayweather fight pacman mayweather would still back out . 7.045 billion people

Posted October 10, 2012 6:04 pm 

cry baby

money beats PAC PED pusher

Posted October 10, 2012 5:37 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Let’s hope whiteman in denial starts writing full length stories at ESB. It would be standup comedy.

Posted October 10, 2012 5:22 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Both fighters are already making 40 and 50 million dollars a year fighting lower risk opposition. There’s no financial urgency to make this fight happen.” – Larry is exactly correct. He’s also correct about a boycott. I’ve been calling for a boycott of both Pac and Floyd for years. Then they throw in a good undercard and I buy it, sometimes, depending on if one of my faves is on it.

Posted October 10, 2012 5:21 pm 



Posted October 10, 2012 5:20 pm 

Carlos El Guapo

I think I might be a”Brown man in denial that “White man in denial” is the most creative, original,witty, and greatest writer the world has ever known.

Posted October 10, 2012 5:11 pm 


Sred i would say Floyd is a little tougher than he gets credit for but compared to his peers hes a bit below average so Pac is dangerous to him. Floyds toughness is more mental than physical from what i understand he sustained a rib injury in the first Castillo fight and his right hand went thru a period where it was chronically broken until xlocaine was available to him. Cotto bust his nose with a jab and that shot he took from Shane alot of other boxers walked thru. There’s a reason tne so thoroghly avoids being hit.

Posted October 10, 2012 4:09 pm 


Oscar De La Hoya and Miguel Cotto both have knocked out more men 147 and above than Manny Pacquiao ever has or likely ever will…Reality is that the ONLY WW fighter that Pac Man stopped was Miguel Cotto via 12th round TKO…. You are basing Pacquiaos effectiveness on everything but the MOST obvious metric which is stoppages…. We all know Manny is a southpaw and unfortunately for him Floyd knows it too…. If Marquez can avoid the big punch Floyd will have no issues with that…. All important factors absent power auger in Floyds favor to be honest….You also seem to forget that Pac’s volume has dropped precipitously over the last few fights, he is not raining on guys the same way and seems to be looking for the big one more and more…. Whereas we have a MORE offensive Mayweather in the mix….

Posted October 10, 2012 4:07 pm 


Sred ur last post all true except i dont think Floyd has fought anyone with more pop than Pac. Even if he did not with the combination of being a southpaw with rabbit like footwork and great speed along with that power. Now ive always said of course Floyd can beat Pac the size along with Floyds insanely high skill level and Pacs flaws can carry the day for Floyd i just think Pacs chances r better than everyone else at a fair weight for Floyd and better than most think. When u add Floyds reluctance to fight Pac i get more confident by the second.

Posted October 10, 2012 3:57 pm 


@Exiled Yank….”I read an interview with FM…..” I hope Mayweather realizes that humility doesnt take away your edge!! That it doesnt REPEAL your desire to work HARD and DOMINATE!! Mayweather hasnt had a HUMILITY example to follow his WHOLE life, so I really dont know how his attitude towards fighting is gonna pan out. Imo, Mayweather WAS AND is BETTER than a Pacquiao (no disrespect to Pac)!! Pacquiaos surge in RESPECT came when he won against BIGGER guys (mannequins in the making)!! His unrelenting POWER, ENERGY and SPEED was SICK!!!!!! His reckless abandonment style, prior to his big-man dominating rein was ALSO exceptional. I REALLY dont know what Floyd feels about “the sport of boxing” now, kinda reminds me of Mike Tyson when he got out of jail….his desire was somewhat nil!! Anyway, INITIALLY – in my mind – Pac RAN – ZOOOM!!, he has REFUSED the BEST FORM of TESTING when Floyd was READY to TAKE HIS CHANCES against him!! Pac made SILLY CONVENIENT EXCUSES!!! Although Pacs HUMBLE CONTRIVED attitude AND his gung ho style of fighting, won him a lot of fans AND supporters, his REFUSAL to take those tests TARNISHED his LEGACY!! Pac can’t pick and choose EVERYTHING he does – he MUST BEND for HONORABLE REASONS, even if the mssg is one he DOES NOT like!! The “message” of “DRUG TEST TAKING” should have been heeded, EVEN if the messenger had ARROGANCE ISSUES!! In Mayweathers defence, he didnt have ANYONE to LEARN HUMILITY from, so he had to learn in a HARSHER way! A JAIL SENTENCE!! Self righteous Pacs ATTITUDE (or so he seems) does NOTHING for me. Mayweather would’ve taught him a lesson in boxing IF they ever had meet in the ring!! If Pac had AGREED to INITIAL RANDOM TESTING the WINNER woudve been CROWNED ALREADY! Pac REFUSED! Why!!?? Because he could!!!

Posted October 10, 2012 3:49 pm 

Carlos El Guapo

It seems really that both these guys are starting to fade a little. The erosion will continue.

Posted October 10, 2012 3:48 pm 


And even though Pac hasnt scored a stoppage in a while he made Clottey scared to extend his arms outward away from his face he crippled Margo he had Shane on Crypton gave Marquez a couple of Tyson tattoos had bighead tough ass Bradley wobbled and glasseyed a couple of times pretty good power for sumone who only weighted in at 147 1 time at w.w.

Posted October 10, 2012 3:38 pm 


REM, I thought Pac did more than enough to win the Bradley fight but he was also made to look pretty wild and got tagged up at times by a light puncher… Pac Man is NOT the biggest hitter than Floyd has been in the ring with SHOCKER!! Much of Pacs legend as a puncher originates at the lower weights, he can hit and for a man of his size to keep solid WW’s so honest its amazing but he is LESS than a 50% KO artist at 147 and above #’s don’t lie… Marquez is slower than Pac, the same size and not as big a puncher yet he damn near boxed him to a loss and many think he did (tossup to me)…. Floyd Mayweather is taller, his reach is 5 inches longer he is as fast or faster than Manny with one shot and his defense is the BEST in the sport…. Pac Man is not going to be landing haymakers on Mayweather, he did not get much done against Marquez and missed plenty against the less talented and powerful Bradley…. Manny will not be in control of this bout, Floyd would put him on the string and frustrate him….

Posted October 10, 2012 3:38 pm 


I’ve always thought Bunny would shade Pacq and if taken into later rounds would start pulling away on points….So i can’t understand why he never jumped at the chance for this fight.I don’t think Pacq could knock him out,although his volume punching could keep him occupied…Perhaps he is not so self confidant as he appears …

Posted October 10, 2012 3:33 pm 


Sred real stretch to say Bradley outboxed Pac in spots he did it in the 10th round and that was it. And a punchers chance isnt just a ko Pac can buzz Floyd enough to make his legs weak over the course of the fight he can buzz him a couple of times over the course of the fight and win the majority of rounds bcuz of it. Floyd isnt the same defensive fighter against southpaws thats a fact Pac will lay sum leather on Floyd and he knows it. At the same time bcuz Floyd will eat sum shots his low punch output wont cut it.

Posted October 10, 2012 3:31 pm 


Floyd does not rely on power or KO’s to win… He can box you senseless for 12 rounds and leave top fighters looking and feeling inept… My feeling is that the shorter, hyper aggressive Manny Pacquiao would quickly end up in that box…

Posted October 10, 2012 3:17 pm 


To those who continue to harp on the testing issue let me inform u so u dont have to write long post full of rhetoric. After Pac lost to Morales long b4 him and Floyd fighting was even thought of the state athletic commision lost Pacs bloodtest and made him take them over close to the fight. Pac said in an interview that he felt it weakened him so Floyd tried to use that for a mental edge. That’s y Pac was always willing to take the test he just wanted a cuttoff date. The way peds works is u have to take them over a course of time while training for them to work u don’t just pop a pill and become superman. Pac called Floyds bluff over and over plain and simple he’s not ready for Pac.

Posted October 10, 2012 3:14 pm 

Carlos El Guapo

Floyd hasn’t shown that much power at ww either. He couldn’t KO Cotto or DLH.
Although the confused Ortiz was easy with him standing without any defense.

Posted October 10, 2012 3:11 pm 


Raving about Pac Mans power based on putting down Shane Mosley is fine but the reality is that Manny has not stopped a fighter at WW in eons….He is NOT going to renew his KO streak with Floyd Mayweather when he could NOT knockdown or stop a debilitated and hobbled Tim Bradley…. AGAIN he has a punchers chance but its been to no avail against Clottey, Mosley, Bradley, Marquez, and Margarito…. Thinking he is going to stop the BEST defensive fighter of the past 20 sounds far more plausible in cyberspace than in real life

Posted October 10, 2012 3:07 pm 


There are so many more videos about Floyd’s cowardice. That video where he said his health is more important than money. That video from ESPN where he stutters at the mere mention of Pacquiao’s name lol! Those videos where he idolizes Manny before Manny became a big name. That call he made with Pac saying if he loses, there is nothing for him. You don’t have to be a psychologist to know what he is really thinking. He is not scared to fight. He is scared to get beat up. He is scared that his face will look like Cotto’s and Margarito’s after their respective fights with Pac. He is scared to lose big time. He can’t and won’t handle the loss. All the crazy demands for a one dimensional midget? All the posturing for a declining fighter? Floyd’s uncle and father says he should fight Pac because they both know he will beat him. Why hasn’t he fought him yet? Because he doesn’t believe in himself. Shame. Pac already won the fight mentally. He can’t and won’t ever intimidate the Pacman. If they ever fight, Pac will just laugh at him during they press cons and face offs.

Posted October 10, 2012 3:04 pm 


Pac Man has a punchers chance against Mayweather and nothing more to be honest… Bradley lost but he certainly outboxed Pac Man in spots, we don’t need to recount how Marquez handled the threat last time out.. Mayweather would figure Pac Man out in 3 rounds and then time him for the rest of the evening…Mannys a great fighter but Mayweather is an even greater boxer….Bottomline is we have seen the best of Pac Man and FMJ, but Floyds skills are premier and his edge is pretty damn obvious….

Posted October 10, 2012 3:03 pm 


T.J when a boxer of Shanes pedigree decides the one thing he wont allow to happen is being koed he wont be. But for those who say Pacs stopped juicing begining with that fight didnt Pac have him seeing stars when he dropped him so much for that theory huh. Canelo hit Shane repeatedly but didnt drug him that’s just a testament to Pacs insane power. And Pac had him on the run all fight so that puts to rest questions aboit his conditioning for that fight. Now lets look at Bradley and Marquez whether u felt Marquez won or not was Pacs conditioning a problem his movement and activity levels were on par. So did Pac get old in 1 fight from Marquez to Bradley or did he simply not have to go deep into his toolbox to thoroughly outclass Bradley..

Posted October 10, 2012 3:02 pm 

Gonzo The Dragonborn

Go suck the evil dictator’s balls, Cabron. Viva la revolucion and all dat nonsense, homie. lol

Posted October 10, 2012 3:00 pm 

Gonzo The Dragonborn

Guetamala? You think I give two hoots what part of Mexico you come from, Cabron? The whole country is a festering sheet hole full of poncho wearing, coco leave munching 4ft tall peasant midgets.

Posted October 10, 2012 2:58 pm 


Kornerman ive watched Floyd pretty closely over the years #1 because he is a spectactular boxer and #2 to size him up against my boy Pac and 90% of the time he counters with the straight right. And dude bad crop of fighters to use as and example Gatti and Hatton r c level boxers Corrales and Castillo r b level boxers even though i give Floyd credit for them bcuz they were the best l.w had to offer. Cotto is 1 of the wins i give Floyd credit for bcuz he’s an a level boxer and the only true w.w champ Floyd fought. But all fought in the orthodox stance which allows Floyd to use the ahoulder roll. Cotto and Castillo only had sum sucsess bcuz they both have good left hands. I’ve always said there’s no orthodox boxer 154 and below that can beat Floyd bcuz of his mastery of the phillyshell. But great southpaws like Pac and Martinez negate the phillyshell so Floyd will be out of his comfort zone.

Posted October 10, 2012 2:51 pm 

Gonzo The Dragonborn

Carlos El Guapo… lol @ chu. Ya’ll just mad cause Money and da Bruthas always beating up all ya’ll Mexican midgets since like forevers, Cabron. lol. You don’t like it why don’t you hop back across the border to your peasant family in that Third World sheethole? lol This is USA baby! This how we roll. We bruthas got this sheet on lockdown. Real talk.

Posted October 10, 2012 2:19 pm 

Gonzo The Dragonborn

bwahahahaha.. White boys getting vexatious.. Meanwhile up at Money Team Mansions, Floyd be cashing checks.. Ka-ching! Rich the Byatch.. skedaddle back over to Stormfronts ya’ll Nascar watching meth-head muthafunking byatch ya’ll. lol. Go watch UFC, Buba. lol. Money be living Lifestyle Flashy for real playa and ya’ll just mad cause ya’ll don’t gone none dat. Don’t go jealous.. Go realz. Namsayin’? lol.

Posted October 10, 2012 2:14 pm 



I meant to write @REM you waxxed lyrical about Pacman’s four hour sessions!

Posted October 10, 2012 1:58 pm 


@REM… you was lyrical about Pac’s 4 hour workouts….

One thing, how come he could only fight for barely 30 seconds a round vs a man (DESERT STORM) with not 1, but 2 blown out ankles??????

How come this man who works out for 4 hours straight couldn’t decisively defeat a 40 year old counter-puncher in DINAMITA in his last bout, or over the 36 rounds they have competed over at 3 different weights, especially when he insisted that DINAMITA come up from 135 and weigh no less than 146 for their bout??????

How come Mister Four Hours Straight could not jump on a buzzed, done and over-the-hill Sugar Shane Mosley over the last 8 rounds, being bamboozled by a simple half-step to the side- half-step to the rear??????

He may well be able to train for four hours which gets your juices going, but he sure as hell can’t put together a perfomance in the ring anymore….

I’m not trying to say anything, but it does coincide with his agreeing to be OST…..

It makes me wonder??????

Posted October 10, 2012 1:56 pm 

Test me, please.

The “GREAT PAC” who is still in his PRIME will now fight a 40 year PAST PRIME shopworn excellent athlete! Years ago Pacquiao agreed to LESS MONEY (“GOOGLE it” to ALL the Pac lovers) to fight Mayweather, now the “cry cry COURT baby” most likely, listened to his DADDY Arum, then went back on his word – AGAIN!! Prior to this agreement, Pacquiao has NEVER wanted to take the fight with STRINGENT CHEAT REVEALING “NO CUT OFF DATE” RANDOM testing!! He has FINALLY decided to NOT make it an ISSUE because he & ARUM knows they’ll NEVER get an OPPORTUNITY to make DOUGH like this AGAIN!! For Arum to make SUCH a LOAD of MONEY like this – is like SLEEPING in a RAIN FOREST with JUST his MONEY, CHECKBOOK, and LAP TOP…..PURE DELIGHT! Mayweather CAN make this money WITHOUT Pacquiao…..Vise Versa?! – NO WAY!! This fight WILL happen, because Arum will try HARD for it to happen, he just doesnt want to appear DESPERATE!! Mayweather CANT be concerned with those who thinks he’s scared, he has to FOCUS on bartering with “SPIN” MASTER Arum!! Pacquiao is SUPPOSED to be this HONORABLE man, but the ONLY reason he wont give Bradley a REMATCH is because “MONEY” is the ISSUE – NOT “PRINCIPLE” – “MONEY” is the ISSUE!!….Is MONEY now his god??….Wouldnt Pac like very much to be given another opportunity (if he was an up and coming boxer) if BOTH his FEET were injured!?? I thought Pac believed in “do unto others as you would have them do unto you???” Oh, Great Pac, may I burn candles in your CATCH-WEIGHT presence – as I cut off “layers” from the candles to “your liking!??”…..Oh, Great Pac, can you ask Arum to set up an area where we can PAY to see you shoot jump shots!!?? Maybe your Arum can use the SAME arena he was going to BUILD for you & Mayweather – the ARENA he was going to BUILD, right about the time Mayweather was sentenced to go to jail!! We will be SOOO privileged “your highness”! Please say YES and PLEASE dont CHANGE our MIND!!!….Pardon me “gREAT oNE” maybe its AMNESIA you suffer with!!……no lashes please!

Posted October 10, 2012 1:24 pm 


“Jailboy will not fight Pacquiao coz he’s really scared.”-Just as I predicted!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!

Posted October 10, 2012 1:23 pm 



Posted October 10, 2012 1:12 pm 


Gatti, Hatton, Corallez,Castillo, Cotto.just to name some “tough” fighters Floyd has dispatched or beat with relative ease but he’s not tough eh??? man some folk are clueless.

Posted October 10, 2012 1:09 pm 


Rem Floyd preys on cluster punchers and repays them with left counter hooks all night just like he would to Pedman.

Posted October 10, 2012 1:05 pm 


It would be a miss-match in Floyds favour if he fought Pedman I wish folk would drop the idea.

Posted October 10, 2012 1:04 pm 


To those who think Floyd beats Pac easy do y’all even know that he wont have the shoulder roll in his arsenal for that fight. On top of that hes a potshoter so he will have to beat Pac a deadly accurate volume puncher without his signature defense and a low punch output. These r the questions he wrestles with when sizing up a matchup with Pac. These r the issues that most Floyd fans don’t even begin to ponder because y’all dont know jack about boxing and became a fan because u saw his swag in the way he talks crap on a youtube video. Then when u size up the intangables Floyd has no advantage. Believe it or not Pa is a more confident fighter than Floyd Floyd protects his own self image by only fighting dudes he has a given advantage over because he’s insecure about his power and toughness. Pac has it all skill, speed, power and toughness mental advantage Pac. Floyd doesn’t have a conditioning advantage Pac is a beast and known for his 4 hour workouts wow 4 hours. Floyd thinks he can beat Pac he knows there r flaws he can exploit the problem is he knows Pac is perfect to take advantage of his flaws. Most Floyd fans fell for the sales pitch i have no flaws and im unbeatable WRONG.

Posted October 10, 2012 1:03 pm 

Jake Lead Rights

Floyds resume proves that he isn’t afraid of Pac so that one just needs to fall off the table. His PED Test demads has casued cheaters to surface. His marketability is still by far better than Pacs so money isn’t an issue any more. The problem has always been Bob Arum he wants to bleed his cash cow of every drop before he throws him in with Floyd. One poster said they shouldn’t go into the hall of fame if they dont ever fight. And i agree I love both fighters, both have given us some spectacular fights but in the end they should’ve fought about 2 yrs ago. Every year that passes makes the fight less meaningful. If it happens beyond 2013 I think I would wait to see the fight on Youtube.

Posted October 10, 2012 1:03 pm 


Bring on Martinez! Catch weight in 150lbs! PAC or Floyd will beat Martinez down!

Posted October 10, 2012 12:50 pm 


They don’t need to fight each other! PACman lose to Bradley! Floyd still undefeated! Floyd is the better boxer than PAC! They both a hall of famer! They both are exciting to watch! Enjoy it while they last! I love both boxer and satisfied with what they did in the ring! I don’t want them to beat each other I want them to beat everybody!

Posted October 10, 2012 12:46 pm 


Never about the fans that pay the money ! I say no to the hall of fame for both boxers for not fighting each other or the one fighter that dose not sign to fight dose not get into the hall of fame. THIS MEN OR COWARDS ARE KILLING THE SPORT.

Posted October 10, 2012 12:19 pm 


D-Weezy….You sure know your boxers,…..So how come he won coveted fighter of the year 3 times and fighter of the decade….The judges should have listened to old Weezy he knows boxing inside out…….more out than in….

Posted October 10, 2012 12:08 pm 


Gonzo,…why are you trying to talk like some backwoods cracker wigger….You sound like you have OD on reading “Gone with the wind”….stop it ,you are embarrassing yourself… What with ya’ll,you’ll be singing “Mammy” next…

Posted October 10, 2012 11:35 am 

Exiled Yank

Neil and Oct – you are both right. Their legacies are not complete and both teams are at fault for it. Unfortunately it’s the fans that got the shaft.

Posted October 10, 2012 11:05 am 

Exiled Yank

I read an interview with FM on another site and the guys head isn’t in the game right now. I never dreamed it would happen, but that jail term messed him up a bit. He kept going on about his freedom and that he wasn’t interested in fighting, only promoting his stable of boxers. He refused to be arrogant and condescending of MP and 50, who he’s had a falling out with. The guy is humble like never before. He even said if the MP fight doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen and he did not blame anyone at all for the problems of making the fight. It was an interesting interview and you don’t even have to read between the lines to see that prison totally changed him. He said it did and that he will not be ugly toward anyone again. My point is this, I really don’t think his heart and mind are in the game right now. Maybe the fire will return, but it’s definitely been doused for the moment.

Posted October 10, 2012 11:02 am 

Carlos El Guapo

The debate of who can beat who? Will probably continue long after they’ve both retired.

Posted October 10, 2012 10:56 am 

Neil (pomy)

both are great fighters with great skills and few weaknesses …. but now they are both of the slide. As far as I am concerned they have both missed the boat. Both will be remembered as being “great” … but neither of them is as “great” as they could of been. There legacies have both been diminished by hand-picking their opoonents over the last couple of years. Floyd-v-Manny should of been an easy fight to make.

Posted October 10, 2012 10:55 am 


Like I said; both sides are to blame for this fight not happening; but the fans keep allowing both sides to blow smoke up their rear ends. Like Merchant said; IT’S A BUSINESS. And the said part is business is ALWAYS FIRST; NEVER PERSONAL; so it is what it is!!!!!!

Posted October 10, 2012 10:40 am 


Weezy says, “PAC is a sloppy inaccurate brawler with little technique” …. You’re describing Margarito, not Pacquiao. Pacquiao is a good boxer and pinpoint puncher with sharp, accurate weapons. He always has been since I’ve been watching him as a bantamweight. He’s very aggressive, not because he’s one of the shortest welterweights—he was much more aggressive when he was a young, tall, skinny bantamweight. As he’s getting older he’s probably boxing too much, but there’s a big difference between being aggressive and being an unskilled brawler. Floyd has better skills in comparison, but Pacquiao is one of the more skilled fighters in Boxing. Otherwise he wouldn’t be one of the 2 highest paid fighters in the business and wouldn’t be able to compete with bigger, taller boxers.

Posted October 10, 2012 10:40 am 

Neil (pomy)

Swedish – True boxing fans will critise what deserves to be critised …. whereas fanboys and fans-of-personality can never see any wrong-doing when it comes to their own particulr favourite fighter.

Posted October 10, 2012 9:46 am 

Swedish Boxing Fan

A boxer who puts money before career achivments and loyal fans will lose a lot more then they think. Its the loyal fans who pays his bills in the end and Floyd Mayweather jr is throwing a lot gold oppertunities away in evry view point possible and thats sad. Mayweather jr could have proven himself as the very best and conqerd all recognised world title belts (Lineal, WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO) likie Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins or Wladimir Klitschko but he simpley don’t show much care for his legacy and only green cash and more cash. Thats a bad image.

Posted October 10, 2012 9:16 am 


Floyd WILL be fighting Sergio Martinez in May 2013!

Posted October 10, 2012 8:59 am 


I love how all these Floydbots and Pactards ‘know’ the reason for the fight not happening. The only people who know are the proagonists its a shame because the Pac man who beat Hatton would have a good shot against Floyd who although technically superior was in my eyes not as fast or powerful as Manny which with the southpaw stance would pose serious problems. However with Mannys now diminished foot speed in particular he would be a sitting duck for Floyds masterful counters. This is the reason that these 2 will never be seen as amongst the greatest ever. Damn can you imagine Duran, Benitez, Leonard and Hearns avoiding a fight like this, no way, I blame both fighters equally as I am not in a position that some on here seem to be when they have obviously been at and seen all the negoitions first hand.

Posted October 10, 2012 8:39 am 

The Kingslayer

Logic on ESB are you sure about this Neil ;-p

Posted October 10, 2012 8:29 am 

Neil (pomy)

Most logic seems to indicate that Floyd would indeed beat Pacquaio ….. Pacquaio would make a decent fight of it though.

Posted October 10, 2012 7:51 am 

already know

People who believe floyd would win have more confidence in floyd than floyd does in himself. There is absolutely no way he will get in ring with pacman. Floyd has put demands on pacman, that he hasn’t ever put on any other fighter previously. Pac has agreed to all, yet mayweather still wont fight. I do believe that 2 wild horses couldnt drag mayweather in that ring with pacman. Pac the big dog barking and mayweather the little dog hiding under the porch

Posted October 10, 2012 7:31 am 

The Kingslayer

This is all moot because Marquez is going to retire Pac in Dec.

Posted October 10, 2012 7:26 am 

already know

Floyd should start imitating broner who in turn imitates floyd who imitated him who…

Pac ko floyd by 7th rd
Cotto wont fight pac for 13,000,000 cause he knows from first hand experience how good pac is.
however he will fight mayweather again. Shows me that pacman is the alpha warrior here. Plus pac recently called mayweather out again agreeing to all of mayweather terms.
mayweather will not respond.
mayweathers tarnished his legacy by ducking pacman. We will always talk about the one mayweather wouldn’t fight “pacquiou”,a TRUE warrior.

Posted October 10, 2012 7:22 am 

Chicago guy

Blame Ellerbe of protecting his cashcow besides jailboy is scared to take the fight.

Posted October 10, 2012 7:18 am 

Chicago guy

Jailboy will not fight Pacquiao coz he’s really scared. Jailboy got already two knockout lost. One against Judge Saragoza and one against Pacquiao out of court settlement. Those two losses will affect jailboy mentally against Pacquiao so his option is to duck the fight. His swan song is quack quack quack, that’s what jailboy is all about.

Posted October 10, 2012 7:15 am 


There is no need for Manny to seek a fight with the ducker Floyd. He already beat the coward twice in court and made the criminal Mayweather clan issue an apology, which is akin to castration in public. Floyd will never risk a KO by Pac.

Posted October 10, 2012 6:37 am 


They will fight next year. Typical now that the air is going out of the balloon . Mayweather will win by decision. Pacman will retire. Mayweather then takes 1 or 2 more fights , wins and retire.

Posted October 10, 2012 6:07 am 

The Kingslayer

The real reason this fight hasn’t happened is because of Al Haymon and Bob Arum.

Posted October 10, 2012 5:01 am 

The Kingslayer

I can’t stand those tools Bayless and Smith they nothing about boxing.

Posted October 10, 2012 5:00 am 

Neil (pomy)

Who cares anymore about either fighter really? Both are on the slide now and they missed the opportunity to get it on when they were both at their peaks …… neither fighter has been willing to get-it-on for the sake of the sport. Boxing will be better off without both of them. Oh and LArry Merchant can f-off …. I have zero respect for that guy.

Posted October 10, 2012 4:15 am 


People are blinded by their hatred towards Mayweather. FMJ would beat PAC bcuz FMJ is simply the better fighter. Its about skill-set not burning money, singing, being a congressman, going to jail, counting a million, etc. Its about inside the ring. PAC is a sloppy inaccurate brawler with little technique that gets hit bcuz of defensive flaws. FMJ is defensive technician boxer with patience and high ring IQ. FMJ wins 9 rounds to 3.

Posted October 10, 2012 2:36 am 


If these so called fans of the game knew Bob Arums record with his top fighters, the question of who’s to blame would not come up. Bob Arum has always protected his cash cows. ODLH, FM JR., and Cotto just to name a few. He’s even on record how he told ODLH not to fight Trinadad but this sorry debate still continues. Boxing fans check your history books the only villian in the whole this is Mister Bob Arum. It’s true Bob know how to make a star and keep them a star for many years.

Posted October 10, 2012 2:15 am 


It’s very simple to explain why this fight won’t happen. Manny has gone out of his way more than once to appease Floyd Mayweather. Manny has bent over backwards, and the truth is Floyd Mayweather is SCARED to Death of Manny Pacquiao. He’s run out of excuses. Forget about all the money and business crap. Both guys have plenty of money and fame. Floyd is simply afraid to lose his undefeated record. And of course he as all of us know would be destroyed by Manny. Floyd is a actually afraid to die in the ring because of the brutal punching power Manny carries in his arsenal. Floyd is running away as he always has against top elite fighters that present a serious challenge. Floyd, you will forever be known as the coward that was afraid to fight the Legendary Manny Pacquiao, one of the top 3 fighters in the history of boxing.

Posted October 10, 2012 2:08 am 


A new designed undetected steroid is on the market for more than 4 years now, just like balco thing was , mayweather is using that and all this testing thing about paqiao is that he knows if paqiao is without stimulants he wont stand a chance against him since he takes the “undetected “steroid he knows he can beat 100% but he doubed himself if he let’s paqio untested and be like him with steroids in the system, guys believe me I know what I am talking about I know about those steroids first hand!

Posted October 10, 2012 1:32 am 


I’m HAPPY to SEE that Pacquiao finally humbled himself and is ready to accept less money. We could have had the Fight last year if he didn’t go back on his word like Benedict Arnold and demanded 50-50. His SPANKING will soon come just as I predicted….Won’t be early part of next year though as Arum has intentionally set UP Pacquiao’s next Fight to be in April to conflict with Mayweather’s favorite Month to Fight which is May. But the SPIN master will fool the feeble minded by demanding the Cash Cow to change his date to April which is not how it works but the naive will SAY that Floyd’s scared.

Posted October 10, 2012 1:29 am 


I boycotted Pacquiao-Bradley and Mayweather-Cotto. And I am definitely boycotting Pacquiao-Marquez IV. I would pay to see Mayweather-Canelo or Mayweather-Martinez. Pacquiao is out of interesting opponents.

Posted October 10, 2012 12:14 am 

Test me, please.

….regularly “SOWS”….pardon

Posted October 9, 2012 11:27 pm 

Test me, please.

Larry is right up to a point! But Larry wont give Mayweather the benefit of the doubt, concerning his observation of Pacs ABNORMAL metamorphosis from the “ALLEGED” DRUG USE!! Larry doesnt care to legitimize Mayweathers claims concerning that!! “IF” Pac had AGREED to Olympic Style “NO CUT OFF” date DRUG testing from the BEGINNING: THE FIGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON A LONG TIME AGO!!!! But because Floyd regularly to “SOWS” ARROGANCE, he’s “REAPING” NO COMPASSION, SYMPATHY nor OBJECTIVE thinking from otherwise UNBIASED onlookers, AND especially from those who are JEALOUS and PREDUDICE of his ACCOMPLISHMENTS and COLOR!! Larry has his own PERSONAL PREJUDICES against FLOYD, and I’m NOT saying necessarily of the ethnic kind, although to some degree I think color is an issue!! Larry has a young man’s CONCEITED brash outlook on EVERYTHING concerning boxing – just like ALL of US who posts on these sights!! Larry has an opinion for EVERYTHING concerning BOXING, and in his mind he BELIEVES he has BETTER INSIGHT than just about EVERYBODY because he’s been on HBO for years – thats why Roy Jones, George Foreman and other analysts “pull rank” on his sometimes OVERBEARING conceited ramblings! Larry considers himself a “legendary” boxing mind! And while I DO very much admire A LOT of his thought provoking poetic insights (even as boring and drifting as he ‘half the time’ brings it across), sometimes he’s DEAD WRONG, OFF and DUMB with his assessments!! All of us who dissect, study and watch this sport have just as good a LIBERAL understanding of it – BAR NONE!! Larry is BOTH a PAIN and a knowledgeable GENIUS at the same time! Floyd was WEARY of fighting the Pac-man, because in ALL of Floyds years in the sport of boxing he’s NEVER seen a guy move up in WEIGHT and INCREASE POWER, SPEED, AND ENDURANCE the way that this guy has!! I CAN’T say that I have either!! Maybe I’m lame in this regard!! If someone has seen such a DYNAMIC increase in ANY fighter – please EDUCATE me!! Floyd and MANY OTHERS would like this guy to take the BETTER tests without delaying and without EXCUSES, even if he DOES NOT fight Floyd!! Pacquiao has NEVER taken BETTER testing to this DAY!! Yet NONE of his fans mind AT ALL!! ALL of Floyds opponents since the CONTROVERSY started, has TAKEN the STRINGENT TESTS – WOW!!! I CAN see why Floyd has UPPED the purse in his favor – Larry CANNOT – nor those who’ve come to hate Mayweathers ANTICS!! Hey, Pac can sing and legislate his aura into all his fans lives, I’ve dropped off of this catch-weight kings bandwagon. I wish him the best though.

Posted October 9, 2012 11:22 pm 

Bakie Longta

century not decade

Posted October 9, 2012 11:09 pm 

Bakie Longta

That is so accurate..100% f***ng bullseye. I ‘ve been avid fan of the sport for almost half a decade but now losing my interest seeing top fighter like Floyd playing his kind of game.

Posted October 9, 2012 11:08 pm 


Yes I know he said that on ESPN but I have heard those same comments out of his mouth before. I will take less money to fight Floyd but once the negotiating starts Arum has a different agenda. Arum has already stated he is not making the fight unless it is 50/50

Posted October 9, 2012 10:45 pm 


Both fighters are near the end of their careers, so both are anxious to get this fight done — but they don’t want to look like they are… The last shoe to drop was Pacquiao telling the world, “I’m ready to take a 10% lower paycheck than Mayweather if we can get the fight done. He can have 55% and I’ll take 45%.. Let’s give the world the fight they want once and for all.. I need to knock Marquez out cold and then Floyd and I can fight…if he really wants to fight me.” …. Unless Floyd has something else to demand, this should be the final piece of the puzzle that took years and years to make this fight happen.

Posted October 9, 2012 10:12 pm 


Well he won his first title in his 13 pro fight, he beat Corrales, he beat Castillo, Hatton, Oscar, Marquez, Mosley. Now they not ATG but some are great fighters and HOF worthy. So I would say his legacy is set. He was the champ at 130, 135, 147 and held titles at 140 and 154. That is a great legacy. So all he is doing is adding to it

Posted October 9, 2012 9:55 pm 


I think Larry nailed it on the head, iv said for a few years that it wont happen until they are older. Whichever one loses doesnt only get a loss but they go down as a product, Mayweather doesnt want that to happen to him and Arum doesnt want it to happen to Pac. I believe Pac would have fought him a few years ago where as Mayweather has waited as has Arum. From day 1 to now, i still think Mayweather will beat him, just my opinion.

Posted October 9, 2012 8:51 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn

Poochio been ducking Money since forever. Take the test you yellow chump.

Posted October 9, 2012 8:48 pm 

Ghetto Thug

Now it seems that a “L” in the record is necesary to be accepted like an ATG, if not, many lame excuses will come to the plate like “ducking”, “not fighting the best” and bla bla…. Floyd rules losers!!!!

Posted October 9, 2012 8:35 pm 


the fight will happen next year.. that’s why the case against floyd was withdrawn. those are the conditions.

Posted October 9, 2012 8:33 pm 


And this is coming from sumone who will stamp him a goat if he beats Pac thats how crucial it is.

Posted October 9, 2012 8:16 pm 


Peej what fellow atg has he fought. Itd b ok if Pac wasnt around but thats not the case. If he doesnt fight Pac people will always say Floyd was great but…

Posted October 9, 2012 8:12 pm 


I don’t see how Floyd would need this for his legacy. His legacy is already set. He is only adding to it. And the blam in my opinion still falls on Arum. Not to mention I could of cared less if this fight ever happens at all. I have always thought Floyd beats Manny easy. Like the saying goes offense wins games and defense wins championships.

Posted October 9, 2012 7:47 pm 


Larrys comments r pretty much the general opinion of everyone who doesn’t have Mayweather horseblinders on. Floyd needs this fight for his legacy a loss is better than not fighting Pac at all and he hasn’t done himself any favors avoiding Pac at this point in their careers Pac has the faster hands and feet.

Posted October 9, 2012 7:42 pm 

Joseph Herron

I think Larry was right on the money this morning. As usual, he told it exactly how it is.

Unfortunately, that’s not good enough for the fans of boxing. It never has been.

Posted October 9, 2012 7:19 pm 


I just refuse to believe MWwould be scarred of manny especially of late he got showed up by Marquez and couldnt ko a feather punching bradley, Cotto was a bif risk going up to 154 and he gave Money all he could handle, but I will say this Floyd HAS to fught manny or his legacy wilol forever be questioned…

Posted October 9, 2012 7:11 pm 

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