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Posted October 24, 2013 3:48 pm 


Who is this Kunts guy?

Posted October 24, 2013 3:21 pm 


Sorry but Pac did not beat the crap out of Bradley. He was hardly fighting and was not really landing anything. He missed most shots thrown. If he was beating the crap out of Bradley then how come he never wobbled Bradley and why was Bradley looking like he stepped out of the shower. Yes Pac should of won but he did not beat the crap out of anybody that night. He came out looking worse than Bradley did.

Posted October 24, 2013 2:03 pm 

Fight Aficionado

LOL at this historical revisionists claiming Pacquiao didn’t beat the crap out of Bradley. Pac hurt him on several occasions prompting Bradley to run for his life. He won 9 out of 12 rounds easily, possibly 10/12 according to 96% of press row. The outcry afterwards was universal, including from Floyd fan Vivek and various ESBers. After the controversy died down these guys changed their opinion to what he’d have preferred to see.

Posted October 24, 2013 1:37 pm 


Pac never hurt Bradley. The one time Bradley stumbled, Pac missed his punches. Bradley had sprained his ankles or something and that is what happened when it looked like he got wobbled. Bradley was never hurt in the Pac fight. As a matter of fact it didn’t even look like Bradley had gotten hit after the final bell.

Posted October 24, 2013 10:48 am 


It has been reported on many times. Arum decided they needed excuses on why not to take random test or really on why not to fight Floyd. People on here talk trash about Bradley and Marquez taking smaller paydays instead of fighting Pac. Pac did the same thing in fighting Bradley instead of fighting Floyd. Pacs team came up with excuses on why not to take random testing. They came up with excuses on how his cut was too bad to fight in Sept but fought a month later. The fight was 4 or 5 months away and they said the cut was too bad. Then of course the building of an out door stadium. And then last of them was the old turning down 40mil with 20mil being paid upfront. Which was the most he would have made in his career in one fight. But yet somehow Floyd is the one ducking. This all resides on Arum.

Posted October 24, 2013 10:47 am 


HAPPYBOY my friend, Henry Armstrong was absolutely a monster, this guy was a machine that came to fight, but that machine would have taking a serious beating at the hands of the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Manny in his prime could have beaten anyone especially one that came right at him. Manny blend of speed, power and athleticism would have been too much for the Henry Armstrong IMO. know one thing for sure, that fight would have been a war. Manny Pacquiao would have been hard to beat in his prime by anyone.

Posted October 24, 2013 10:44 am 


What a garbage!!!! Bradley beat many to the punch???!! GTFO!!! Bradley was bending his head below PAC’s KNEES all night long as soon as PAC started going after him … How in a hell can you say Bradley beat PAC to the punch when he wasn’t even hitting PAC ??!!! When did Bradley hurt PAC??? PAC hurt Bradley early and after that Bradley wAs in the survival mode … You should be ashamed of writing something like that ….

Posted October 24, 2013 10:37 am 

spartacus 65

RayRay, goodmorning. To answer your question in short of who’s the ducker? The Money man himself. Mr. Mayweather. No more to say on the subject. It’s a topic honestly that should have a nice vacation. A very LONG vacation. Appreciate the commentary my friend. Cheers soldier.

Posted October 24, 2013 8:46 am 

Ray Ray

What challenge should mayweather b taking…the list is way 2 long..tge list also has guys at heavy weights. Didnt pacman train like a 20 yr old last fight, ha ha ha he also fights lije a 20 yr old….zero defence, zero foot and head movement after rnd 4. Pethetic pawring jab, followed by his only punch…a big straight left, always swinging 4 the fences….as good as his been he only no’s 1way, and that hasnt and wont ever change…..Shouldnt even b fighting Rios. Hes a tailor made punching bag 4 manny….Grow a pair and fight Garcia or the russian hard man… no that wont happen? Aparently Floyd is the ducker?

Posted October 24, 2013 6:54 am 

spartacus 65

Happy boy, its ok captain. I respectfully disagree with you on the much played out drug testing argument. Manny take the test?I say respectfully, Mayweather,bite the bullet and take THE CHALLENGE. Period. Don’t hide behind a built in excuse. That is no.longer an issue. The little guy as manny is refered to made it clear recently that he will do whatever it takes. Case closed. Four years ago doesn’t wash anymore. What counts is now. Still appreciate your commentary. Cheers my friend.

Posted October 24, 2013 3:32 am 


Hecdog – Henry Armstrong is miles better than Pac. No catchweights, no PEDs,

Posted October 24, 2013 2:00 am 


Spartacus65 – ” Therr is a thing called fighting pride which resides within the heart and mindset of a real warrior who is willing to take the risks necessary to put his stamp on his career. Win or lose. I have yet to see that quality from Mayweather in regards to Pacquiao. ”

and Manny showed all of us that fighting pride by refusing ” mutually applied ” drug testing cause his afraid of needles ( while spotting tatoos) which by the way has suddenly changed now with Rios after Marquez put him to sleep. So we should thank Dinamita’s right hand for making Pac get some pride and finally take the test.

Posted October 24, 2013 1:56 am 

spartacus 65

Tachyon, PUT IT THERE CHAMP!! Spot on. Pacman really ticked me off with that foolishness. I saw his gradual decline in terms of focus prior to Bradley but THAT action confirmed it for me that Manny had one foot out the door per say in regards to taki.g this bout seriously. That was insulting to Bradley and the fans. Still Bradley fighting a Pacquiao that showed only seventy percent of his ability, DID NOT WIN that bout. By ny stretch of logic can a case be made that Bradley deserved that decision. Like your analogy champ. Peace and strength.

Posted October 24, 2013 1:17 am 

spartacus 65

Hecdog how are you soldier? Im doing pretty good my friend, staying in shape and keeping busy. Hope all is well with you and your family, and that goes for all of the chaps on this forum as well. Looking forward to Pacquiaos fight next month with Rios. Should provide some serious fireworks while it lasts! Peace and strength my brother.

Posted October 24, 2013 1:08 am 


PAC lost too Bradley because he made the entire event, celebs, judges, PPV viewers, and press wait almost an hour because he wanted to finish watching a basketball game. You don’t insult big wigs in Vegas like that.

Posted October 24, 2013 12:59 am 


Spartacus65 my friend, how are you doing these days? I hope all is well. And yes, Iam such a big Pacquiao fan and want to think Mann y is the best ever, but I would not diagree with Sugar Ray Robinson and Roberto Duran as being the best either. Those guys were simply incredible.

Posted October 24, 2013 12:52 am 

spartacus 65

Manny Pacquiao greatest fighter of all time? In my view no, that title resides on the head and shoulders of Mr. Walker Smith,aka Sugar Ray Robinson. Incredible fighter that is truly the yardstick by which all other fighters should be measured. I would put Roberto Duran hifh up as well in the echelon of truly great fighters. Pacquiao is a great fighter for his generation and has done immeasurable good things overall for the sport. He deserves his place in the Hall of fame. But no, he isn’t the best of all times.

Posted October 24, 2013 12:46 am 


CORRECTION: Bradley’s judges gave the fight to Bradley, but Pac did not lose that fight period………..

Posted October 24, 2013 12:37 am 


Pac did not lose to Bradley, Bradley’s judges gave the fight to Pac. In one round Pac landed 2 punches to Bradley’s one. Pac’s punches were much harder than Bradley’s, no comparison. The author must be from the Bradley fan club! Provodnikov was cheated by the referee when the ref called a knock down a slip. Provodnikov left Bradley on the canvas at the end of the fight. Bradley had trouble talking for two months after the fight, was dizzy, etc. Bradley lost that fight.

The trouble with this author is the fact that he is really telling everyone that he is the only one who knows boxing period! Wonder why one of the Bradley judges resigned? Pac won that fight and so did Provodnikov! In a poll, the vast majority had Pac winning that fight, same with the boxing media!

Posted October 24, 2013 12:36 am 

spartacus 65

Big Mikefrom Tampa, very nice commentary and interesting observation on your part in regards to undefeated records being a marketing tool in todays business practices of this noble sport. Yes you are correct when you say Pac will be just fine. His overall body of work has assured him his place in boxing history. Peace and strength my friend.

Posted October 24, 2013 12:26 am 

spartacus 65

Hecdog I just read your commentary from earlier this afternoon and you are spot on in everything you mentioned in regards to Manny. I won’t say nothing about Mayweather that will be deemed negative other than the fact that I don’t prescribe to this obvious reluctance to aftrr all this time to just buck up.and FIGHT this man. Period. It is what it is. All the other side issues that have been trumpeted about in regards to his reasons for not facing this man just do not hold water . Therr is a thing called fighting pride which resides within the heart and mindset of a real warrior who is willing to take the risks necessary to put his stamp on his career. Win or lose. I have yet to see that quality from Mayweather in regards to Pacquiao. I agree with Tark that the fight SHOULD happen, COULD happen but it WON’T happen. Cheers.

Posted October 24, 2013 12:17 am 

spartacus 65

Good gosh, what kind of an article is this? It appears that the majority of Pacquiao haters habe taken up residence at ESB. This isn’t new. For some inexplicable reason Manny Pacquiao seems to ignite an almost cultish brand of hate articles on this site. I could understand if he was a offensive and thoroughly classless figure yet he is the total antithesis of that. This is not writing with amy neutrality, rather an opinion piece by someone who clearly has an agenda. Pacquiao struggling against Bradley? That speaks volumes as to where this gentlemen was going.

Posted October 24, 2013 12:02 am 


“Pacquiao’s resolve is greater…” TARK, I like you but how the hell you determine that?

Posted October 23, 2013 11:12 pm 


“Roach should have been REPRIMANDED for his PISS POOR strategy vs Marquez.”

Manny made the mistake that led to his KO. Not Freddy Roach. Pacquiao got careless and Marquez was there waiting for him. Manny walked into that punch as much as Marquez perfectly delivered it.

Get YOU some boxing KNOWLEDGE, Braggadamus. Or whoever you are.

Posted October 23, 2013 10:21 pm 


This pundit says.., “In many ways Pacquiao looked as helpless against Bradley as Marquez did in his recent defeat by Bradley.”

That’s not a good discription of how they looked against Bradley.

Pacquiao didn’t look helpless. He was out-scoring Bradley by a wide margin.. Marquez didn’t look helpless either.. He fought a close fight, but lost legitimately to a much younger undefeated champion.

Pacquiao looked helpless right after the JMM KO shot made contact. You would too if somebody put your lights out. That doesn’t necessarily mean Rios is going to find Pac’a chin. I expect a tremendous fight because you have 2 highly motivated athletes.

Pacquiao’s resolve is greater… A Mayweather fight is in the offing.

Posted October 23, 2013 7:42 pm 

te tumbo

FIGHT AFICIONADO, i was on record citing Morales’ flat performances following all of his bouts at 130lbs prior to his showdown v. Pacquiao*. after which, he immediately lapsed into another flat performance and loss v. Raheem(?!?) at 135lbs. Morales became the latter-day version of a welterish Duran following his own move beyond lightweight: Dangerous, competitive, but no longer great or elite. IMO, his ONLY great performance at 130lbs remains his gritty and somewhat reckless “W” v. Pacquiao*. the rematch and rubbermatch were simply previews of how Pacquiao* planned to use his promotional clout to tilt the playing field in his favor, e.g., weight, location, ring-size, and purse-split. when the Still-Reigning Champion Marquez rejected purse-parity for their red-hot and eagerly-anticipated rematch, Pacquiao* bolted for the presumably faded Morales. when Mayweather ONLY insisted on a MUTUALLY-Applied testing protocol, Pacquiao* bolted, Period. even after being utterly DEMOLISHED by Marquez, Pacquiao* continues to insist on dictating terms for a 5th matchup that Marquez doesn’t even want(?!). consequently, Pacquiao’s* M.O. and ring-profile is self-evident and it’s not “great”.

Posted October 23, 2013 7:21 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Tumbo, IMO Morales was still just a little bit past his prime when he fought Pac the first time. That’s why I bet him big at 3/1 odds and won fat cash. His erosion began soon after though.

Posted October 23, 2013 5:35 pm 

te tumbo

Morales was already faded and beyond his prime for his first bout v. Pacquiao*. only fierce pride enabled him to make weight and indirectly redeem his second loss to Barrera, which was yet another flat performance and loss for Morales at 130lbs. otherwise, Morales’ ONLY great 130lb performance was his win v. Pacquiao*. it was obvious that Morales could no longer make a healthy 130lbs for the rematch or rubbermatch. he complained about leg cramps as early as the fourth round of the rematch that he was winning and looked like a concentration-camp survivor at the weigh-ins for their rubbermatch.

Posted October 23, 2013 4:55 pm 


Of course Pacquiao is training harder than ever! He’s no longer got his PED supplier Ariza to train him!

Posted October 23, 2013 4:35 pm 



You are 100% right.

Posted October 23, 2013 4:07 pm 


Pacquiao have two ESPY best fighter of the year award, he never attended the awarding ceremony even once, it means he doesn’t care about it.

Posted October 23, 2013 3:16 pm 


But it is provided by the fans. Not just a few people voting who where in love with Manny. Hard to be a fighter of the decade when you have loses during that decade and the other fighter had no loses.

Posted October 23, 2013 2:58 pm 


ESPN award is not in history book, its just an award of one TV channel.

Posted October 23, 2013 2:52 pm 


How many ESPYs Pac got? How many does Floyd have? The ESPYs are actually decided by the fans. Fighter of the decade is not.

Posted October 23, 2013 2:40 pm 


Pac ducked Joan Guzman.

Posted October 23, 2013 2:38 pm 


1. Muhammad Ali – fighter of the decade of the year 1971 to 1980
2. Evander Holyfield – fighter of the decade of the year 1981 to 1990 3. Roy Jones- fighter of the decade of the year 1991 to 2000.
4. Pacquiao – fighter of the decade of the year 2001 to 2010.
5. Floyd Jr – its only 2013, its still early to tell, he might not get one. Note: Pacquiao have a claim as one of the greats, Floyd cannot…lol

Posted October 23, 2013 2:37 pm 


Manny Pacquiao has already destroyed numerous champions. He never dodged or ducked anyone. And yes he could have, and can still beat Floyd Mayweather IMO. His style is one that can’t be defeated on in a one fight basis. Manny has more speed than Floyd as Marquez has already stated, and he has more power as Marquez also stated. Manny Pacquiao offers more challenges against Floyd than Floyd offers Manny. Floyd won’t be able to handle a southpaw with the unique blend of skill, technique and stamina Manny has. Manny will be so fired up, and will win this fight. trust me if it ever happens. The challenge will be Rios. I know many don’t think so, but Rios is motivated, strong, big and dangerous. Manny has to be careful and not get into a slugging contest with Rios. This will be an action paced fight. Look, Manny has never failed a drug test, he’s always had power, and because Floyd has came up with a million excuses only points to Floyd, his uncle and Ellerbe being afraid to take the chance. The last I heard on ESPN First take, Manny straight out said Floyd let’s fight I’ll take whatever deal you want. Guess what, Floyd never responded. Floyd is still upset that Manny sued him for defamation of character, and Floyd balked and settled out of court. That was a victory in itself and proved that Manny Pacquiao could go to court and pass any test including lie detector tests to prove his innocence. Manny has nothing to hide. His brutal power is natural like Tyson’s, Duran’s and Gatti’s. These are born punchers. Arum has been a thorn in all of this, but the truth is Floyd knows full well that Manny can hurt him and beat him. Floyd’s entire camp went on ramps about Manny’s Ped use, but when they went to court, they couldn’t and didn’t even want to try and back up their insecurities. Someone make the fight, and you will see why the Fighter of The Decade and arguably the best fighter ever to put on a pair of gloves will soundly defeat Floyd Mayweather. Trust me. It’s not just about Floyd being a better technical boxer that comes from a rich boxing family history. It’s more about the desire, determination, duty, dedication and the dependability of the great Manny Pacquiao to do what no other man has been able to do. Manny Pacquiao will beat Floyd Mayweather if and when the fight happens.

Posted October 23, 2013 2:21 pm 


Can Pac sell a fight without mentioning Floyd and using the fight against Floyd as bait for these casual fans. Top Rank & GBP/MAYWEATHER PROMOTIONS don’t do business, period.

Posted October 23, 2013 2:04 pm 

Pac is Ducking Bradley and Ruslan

@moonshineman– You see what you want to see, you beleive what you want to beleived, and you forget what does not help your argument, when it come to Manny.

Bradley offered Pac a rematch directly following their first fight- He even had posters and tickets made up for the rematch before the first fight. He handed one to Pac a the pre-fight press conference.

Directly following the first fight Manny’s management refused the rematch and moved on the fight where he was exposed as an average fighter.

Directly following the Ruslan fight- before anyone even said anything about a Bradley Fight- Manny’s people in the form of Koncz- came out again and stated they would not be considering a Bradley fight. Using money as an excuse– You can go back in this forum and read his comments.

Why would you not want to fight the man who took your belt, and avenge your loss. Any other boxer would be considered a coward or ducker to you Manny fans..

Please explain why he will not face bradley– My theory is that his team is not confident he could actually beat him, and Pac is afraid of Bradley-

Posted October 23, 2013 2:00 pm 


Hahahahahaha, That’s good.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:56 pm 


And actually Pac turned down the rematch when it was brought to him because he said he felt he already beat Bradley and did not want to have a rematch with Bradley. Pac did the same thing with Marquez saying he did not want to give him the extra money. But when the opponents started waring thin, they went back to Bradley and Marquez. Only Pac got turned down this time.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:55 pm 


Like I said we can use the same excuses as you, if Arum and company wasn’t afraid of Pac losing to Floyd then they would of agreed to the fight by now. The fight was signed in 2010 but they declined the drug testing. So like I said if they would of agreed to that then they could of had a fight. They didn’t

Posted October 23, 2013 1:53 pm 


Morales was not longer in his prime during the 2nd and 3rd fight. Floyd has fought fighters in their primes also. Their is Castillo, Corrales, Hatton, Hernandez, Canelo. Just to name a couple. The only difference is Floyd made it look easy.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:51 pm 


Bradley wanted to fight Marquez,for obvious reasons.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:42 pm 


@Pac is Ducking Bradley and Ruslan

Are you High???. Bradley turned down the Pac fight.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:40 pm 


Look, this is simple. If Little Floyd wasn’t afraid of Pacquiao, he would fight him.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:39 pm 

Pac is Ducking Bradley and Ruslan

@ moonshineman– Whys is Pac ducking Bradley– Dont come with the excuse that no one wants to see this fight, or Bradley has no fans so there is not enough money in it for Pac. Boxing is a warrior sport– No fighter walks away from a loss and not want to avenge it- They had the poster and tickets ready for the rematch, but it never happened. The reason was because they did not think Pac could defeat Bradley if they fought again, and the second fight would have perhaps been a clear win by Bradley– Pac could not hurt Bradley with his power. No one can dispute that Bradley has a chin, and very, very resilient recuperative power– See Ruslan Fight. Two losses back to back was too much of a risk to take.

If he beat bradley so easy in the first fight- why not go immediately back and fight him again, and take the judges out of the fight– All parties involved did not think Pac could do it- or the fight would have happened. I think Bradley lost that fight- but for Pac to walk away with that type of loss is very, very strange, unless they felt the outcome might be the same in the next fight.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:38 pm 


The point is….if you know how to read, is that regardless of whether Pac lost or not…he fought fighters that were in their prime……including Morales. Of course he has a loss to Morales…but Morales has 2 losses to him!! He fought his first fight against JMM when JMM was closer to his prime than when Floyd fought him. To add insult to injury….floyd makes JMM come up in weight and then stiffs him by coming in over. So much for a great fighter, huh. Moreover….Barrera was not washed up, nor past his prime. No fighter past their prime is going to fight 14 more fights after fighting Pac if they were truly washed up. In fact, Barrera’s record at the time was 57-3…He was 29. Past his prime? Hardly!!

Posted October 23, 2013 1:35 pm 


Hecdog, stop your BS, no fighter that gets KTFO the way Pac was , could possibly be considered the best of his generation much less GOAT. Please, stop the insanity.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:34 pm 


Ok, let me use your response then, yeah yeah same old tune. You Pac minions will eat up anything Pac and Arum say.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:31 pm 


Why doesn’t Pac agree to the testing? Why doesn’t Pac take less money since he is coming off loses? The reason is because Arum does not want him to fight Floyd. Arum is a greedy old bastard but he knows boxing and he knows Floyd would toy with him. I have stated this since 2009, that Pac would be easy for Floyd because he is all offense and no defense. I never wanted to see the fight. Have maintained that for years now. Floyd eats up aggressive fighters with no defense.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:31 pm 


Yeah,Yeah,Yeah same old tune. Little Floyd and his minion think the fans are stupid and will swallow more of that BS. Sorry, I’ve got better sense than that.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:30 pm 


Well I don’t think Pac is dirty at all, I just think he has made a lot of excuses and Pac fans jump on that and say Floyd is the one making excuses when that is absolutely false. Floyd has only asked for the drug testing and then of course once Pac started selling less PPVs and tickets also wanted more of the money.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:29 pm 


Then why doesn’t Little Floyd fight Pac?.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:28 pm 


Floyd is no way scared of Pac. It is Arum that is scared to let Pac fight Floyd. Go through the list of excuses Arum made for Pac and go through the list for Floyd. There is only one for Floyd and that was the drug testing. There are many for Pac including the excuses on why he can’t do the drug testing, to an out door stadium to he has a cut and would not be able to fight that soon but yet fought like a month later. So it is Arum side coming up with excuses on why the fight could not be made.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:27 pm 


I was reading what Ariza said. He said that VADA came to test Rios and then the media asked if they have tested Pac and they said no, he will not be tested until he gets to China. Ariza was also questioning why Goodman put that out there since people from VADA said they have not tested Pac. I scored the fight for Pac, I am just saying that he did not land many punches against Bradley. I have always maintained that Pac won that fight.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:25 pm 


Barrera was not in his prime, Pac lost to a prime Morales and then beat a past his prime Morales, Pac ducked Guzman, went to war and looked to want to quit against Agapito Sanchez. Floyd resume is better than Pacs, not to mention he was the legit Champion in a few weight classes. Has yet to lose or be KOd. Pac has been KOd by lesser comp. Not to mention Floyd has some HOF fighters on his resume too.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:23 pm 



Problem is that Pac only fought for 30 seconds of those rounds and for the most part was missing punches. That is why the judges scored if for Bradley. Just read that Goodman says Pac has been tested but the people testing Rios stated that Pac has not been tested and will not be tested until he gets to china which is a week away from the fight. hmmmmmmm
Posted October 23, 2013 1:03 pm

So what about the scores from the 5 independent Judges?.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:22 pm 



Floyd is the greatest fighter of this generation. Pac is 2nd compared to Floyd.
Posted October 23, 2013 1:16 pm

You guys are all the same. If Little Floyd wasn’t afraid of losing ,he would fight Pac. Every excuse in the book. I’m sure you can come up with more BS excuses, but it won’t change a thing. LF will not risk losing.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:21 pm 


Well,….you know what they say when you assume don’t you. You’ll have credibility when you present facts, otherwise, you’re the typical bandwagon hopper.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:20 pm 

Pac is Ducking Bradley and Ruslan

Peej, your comments related to testing are spot on and verifiable. This is the same pattern Manny took prior to several fights including coto and magartito. He trained exclusively in the Philippines for 12 weeks, which is equates to one full cycle of Steroid use. If you recall there was flooding and a monsoon that swamped the entire country, and his training facility and all of the surrounding jungle area- He was unable to train and Roach left the country as the flooding was so bad. He begged Pac to come back to wild card with him so he would not loose so much training time so close to the fight, but he would not. He came to US soil two weeks prior to the fight, at a time when any trace of any foreign substance would be untraceable. The past generally repeats it self.

Why are they fighting in “China”– Taxes — Is he so broke that he needs every penny, The Chinese are not even paying for the fight, and any money he makes from Pay per view here in the US will be taxed– so what tax free revenue are they talking about.

I will have to agree with you Peej– All I can say is HMMMMMMMM..

Posted October 23, 2013 1:17 pm 


Floyd is the greatest fighter of this generation. Pac is 2nd compared to Floyd.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:16 pm 


Great fighters lose….those who haven’t just have not fought the best…and i mean, THE BEST. Those have not lost have not been trying hard enough to be the best so they succumb to fighting the best available, not necessarily the best there is. Tyson…good, not bad….Holyfield and Lewis tore him a new a-hole, but he wasn’t great. Pac will eventually be inducted into the HOF, meant only for great fighters. He may have losses but he’s accomplished more in the ring than floyd has. floyd may have”no” losses but has no legacy. floyd has fought what was available. Pac fought quite a few fighters while they were still in their prime including Barrera, Morales, JMM, Lehlo Ledwaba, not to mention other fighters who no one else that currently calls himself p4p has dared face. Pac in his own right is great. Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Jones have all been kayoed, but that doesn’t mean they’re any less of a fighter because of it.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:13 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Sure thing Koncz. Every boxer in the history of boxing trains harder than ever and is in his best shape ever before the bout.

Posted October 23, 2013 1:09 pm 


Problem is that Pac only fought for 30 seconds of those rounds and for the most part was missing punches. That is why the judges scored if for Bradley. Just read that Goodman says Pac has been tested but the people testing Rios stated that Pac has not been tested and will not be tested until he gets to china which is a week away from the fight. hmmmmmmm

Posted October 23, 2013 1:03 pm 


To say Pac looked as helpless as JMM when he fought Tim, is to lose all credibility, for whatever that was worth, and be in the minute minority of fans who think along your lines. Fortunately, the vast majority of fans on this planet, and they made themselves heard through various message boards, know Bradley lost, they know Pac won and they know Pac was robbed. This is no secret. This decision was unlike those Pac received against JMM because in those fights, the outcome could have gone either way, but not in this case. We know better. A very convincing sign that Brad lost was Brad himself. His expression when the winner was announced was that of a person who won the lottery….shocked, in awe, suprised, giddy and afterwards…in complete denial. But we know the truth….Bradley is the only fighter with no losses on his record who’s actually lost twice……consecutively.

Posted October 23, 2013 12:52 pm 

Pac is Ducking Bradley and Ruslan

@ Hecdog
The greatest fighter of our generation and arguably the greatest fighter of all time will make a dramatic and triumphant return to the ring. The media in the Philippines continue to rave at the explosive sparring sessions Manny is exhibiting in his training camp.

You are of course speaking only for the island of the Philippines and the Filipino People right? Pac is Your (The Filipino People) greatest champion, sad however that sounds as he could not beat either a no power punching Bradly, and or and old retreaded JMM, the latter of which knock him unconscious.

Please live in the world of reality and not the world of fantasy- Manny is a great, great champion for the Philippines- but to the rest of the world he just another ok fighter who won some fights and lost a lot others. He would not have even been a top ten fighter in any gym outside of wild card. Them brothers in the Kronc Gym would have sent his little midget butt back that little island. For every Manny there are ten to tweleve fighters who never got a chance due to management and or contract issue with evil promoters.

Again manny is a great fighter for the Philippines, but dont try and tell me he is the greatest fighter of my generation when I got people like tyson, ali, sugar ray, haggler, hearns, maywether, foreman– Please stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking and keep them comments to yourself.

Posted October 23, 2013 12:42 pm 

Thurmal Underwear

ummm… he probably should be training extra hard..good no story. pfff

Posted October 23, 2013 12:36 pm 

Jonn E JaGozza

Sue he’s training harder as he knows he has to because of his last outing with Marquez. He can train hard but no one can train and think they won’t get KO’d again. His chin to me now is questionable at best… He’s a good fighter but after his KO, he’s no longer great. I’d like to see him fight Madaina maybe at a catch weight , NOW, that would be a fight NO, ..a WAR!!! AND the loser would retire for sure. PEACE >>

Posted October 23, 2013 12:35 pm 


If he looks good which he should and I am utterly convinced he is not finished then there is only one thing that can happen after that. Rios to be stopped.

Posted October 23, 2013 12:26 pm 

Prof Konje

The greatest fighter of our generation and possibly of all time? Are you kidding? Brother, share whatever it is that you have.

Posted October 23, 2013 12:15 pm 

Tomato Can

On November 23, 2013 we’ll watch a fast fighter hit a slow fighter again and again. If he doesn’t take many punches himself, he’ll win easily.. Some will be amazed by that.

Posted October 23, 2013 12:02 pm 


The greatest fighter of our generation and arguably the greatest fighter of all time will make a dramatic and triumphant return to the ring. The media in the Philippines continue to rave at the explosive sparring sessions Manny is exhibiting in his training camp. This is a hungry man that has been laughed at and ridiculed after the loss to Marquez. As I have mentioned previously, this is the most anticipated ring return in the history of boxing. The role model to millions around the world wait in suspense to catch a glimpse of the legendary Manny Pac Man Pacquiao, Questions have circulated about Manny’s health and the loss of Alex Ariza. Doubts still remain as to whether Manny can return to the prominence he once had. Does he have the blazing speed of hands and feet? Can he still carry the explosive punching power? Can he still take a good punch? These and other questions remain, but on November 23, 2013, we will all be amazed at what Manny will bring to the ring. Manny Pacquiao will undoubtedly bring his “A” game to the table against a tough Brandon Rios. Rios is no pushover even though he is slow both on his feet and his hands. The one element he does posses is heart. He runs from no one, and he can hurt you. This may be one of the greatest fights of all time. Manny Pacquiao will be on stage once again. This is his Manny’s house, and he’s about to put on a show that can only be compared to the brilliant paintings of Picasso. The boxing world will be electrified for one night. The stars in the sky, and the stars from Hollywood will make their appearance to see the legend that is Manny Pacquiao. No fighter past or present can command the kind of surreal majestic moment that Manny Pacquiao will bring on November 23rd. Manny will start his thanksgiving early by butchering Brandon Rios before round 9. Lets get ready.

Posted October 23, 2013 11:48 am 


Rios is a sacrificial lamb.

Posted October 23, 2013 11:46 am 

Tomato Can

I wouldn’t say Pacquiao looked beffuddled by Bradley during that fight, but the fact remains, for what ever reason, Manny was only fighting in spurts, and really showed the poorest work rate I’ve seen from him. When he did chose to fight, he was doint the better work though, which is why all of his fans think he was robbed. I thought he won, but he wasn’t robbed in my opinion.

Posted October 23, 2013 11:40 am 


Pacquiao looked “befuddled” by Bradley in the latter rounds? Is that another word for bored?

Posted October 23, 2013 11:07 am 


This is the biggest fight of Manny, bigger than Bradley and Marquez, his popularity on Bradley’s loss is not diminish because its a robbery, on Marquez loss, he loses some of it, a loss to Rios will lose it all.

Posted October 23, 2013 9:44 am 


Roy Jones Jr. suffered a simular KO loss to Tarver, RJJ could not beat the count. Pacquioa was unmoving. RJJ was never the same after being KO’d, let hope that Pacquioa doesn’t suffer from a weak chin after his loss to Marquez. Pacquioa in my opinion should blitz Rio’s, it’s when he moves on from there how will he fare.

Posted October 23, 2013 9:24 am 

Tomato Can

Pacquiao should beat Rios, he’ll probably have a hard time missing Rios. However, if Rios can connect on Pacquiao, watch out…

Posted October 23, 2013 9:04 am 


He doesn’t need to Rios is a bum who catches all punches with his face. Margarito = Rios. He won’t survive 8 rounds people.

Posted October 23, 2013 7:46 am 

Brazilian Boxing Fan

I hope Pacquiao beats Rios. I think that will happen.

Posted October 23, 2013 7:32 am 

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