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1980 leonard ko’s (any year )mayweather

Posted October 10, 2013 12:57 pm 



I should have added that SAME-DAY weigh-ins and the traditional 15 round distance was up for negotiation and debate.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:14 am 



HAVE YOU READ this month’s Ring Magazine?
They have an 8-man Welterweight Tournament pitting SRR, SRL, HITMAN HEARNS, DURAN, EMILE GRIFFITH, PRYOR, MAYWEATHER & PACQUIAO…..

They polled expert HISTORIANS, TRAINERS, TV TYPES and another category I can’t remember to decide on who they ranked from 1-8 and then did a fight-by-fight rating of W-L-D…. I think the maximum was 28 pts if you picked SRR to beat the other 7 guys and so on…..

Anyway the top 3 picks in order were:
1. SRR
2. SRL

I think Mayweather was 5th, behind DURAN and Pacman was last, behind PRYOR.

Anyway, it’s worth a read to see which experts picked which fighter to beat another…..

I think HEARNS went 27-1 over PACMAN and 1 expert picked MAYWEATHER to beat SRR, whereas SRR pitched a shut-out 28-0 over Pac and SRR went 22.5 vs 5.5 over SRL.

Anyway, worth a read from you and your comments…..

There’s also GGG on the front cover and rating GGG against the best of the M’Ws and SMW’s and also an interview with Cuban PETER QUILLIN……

Posted October 10, 2013 7:18 am 


BTW.., That computer also had Marciano beating Gene Tunney… And Max Baer beating Jack Johnson, in an ATG’S heavyweight BOX-OFF.

Who made the finals??? Dempsey vs Marciano…

You could bet a skilled boxer wasn’t going to be there. Super big surprise.

Posted October 9, 2013 4:12 pm 


This pundit writes.., “A computer simulation determined that Rocky Marciano would have beaten Ali.”

That was no computer simulation.

That was some old white guys putting information into a computer that was only going to come out in with one answer when asked, “Who would lose in matches between historically great white Heavyweight Champions Marciano and Jeffries, if they fought the cowardly runner and draft dodger Muhammad Ali???” … So when they put all their expert info into that computer — it was the same as if these same old farts entered info in a computer on Floyd Mayweather vs Ray Robinson.

The answer… “Who do you think? Ali loses of course.”

Posted October 9, 2013 4:05 pm 


The greats are the greats loved fighter that are remembered for the wars in the ring. In my time it was the end of Ali and begining of Larry Holmes. Along came Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe, void til the Klitchko Brothers came along. Duran, Haglar, Hearns, Leonard gave way to Sweet Pea, Chavez, Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad, sprinkle in Gatti and Ward for just raw guts. These were fighters that had the it factor and fought the best in there prime. Mayweather for all his talent was and is void of the great matchups because his time has nothing for him. Not his fault. Mosley and Oscar past there prime and too many wars, Gatti, too many wars, Cotto too many wars. Alvarez hasn’t reached his prime too young and green. Afraid to say his defining fight has past him by. Paquiao vs Mayweather would have been his shinning moment, his validation. Now it’s too late, too bad too because he will be remembered with the tag “never fought Pacquiao”.

Posted October 9, 2013 2:00 pm 


dont compare legends of yesteday with today”s prima donna”s.

Posted October 9, 2013 8:00 am 


Without a fight, it means nothing.

Posted October 8, 2013 4:51 pm 


I think Savin is incorrect when it is written here that the flavor of the month beats all comers. It is sometimes criticized that fighters like Sugar Ray Robinson is stil considered the greatest fighter pound for pound. Old feeling still die hard.

Posted October 8, 2013 4:25 pm 

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