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I mean, there are of course, a lot of money, in the third fight, which is sure to come, Abraham vs Stieglitz 3, but even if Abraham should win the third fight, he is not worth mentioning, regarding Smw.

I have also noticed that Abrahams power has gone, at least in the Smw division, but lets face it, he can’t box.

Abrahams reputation has been built on the first Miranda fight, and his Ko victory over Tailor. Thats it.

It looks like it is becoming true, The Kings team are milking the last cash out of him, via nobodies. Like some people said earlier.

AA is the story of a protected fighter, who could not do anything, when he stepped up, to the big guys. Sad.

Posted March 26, 2013 6:30 am 


DAMN, King Arthur got beatdown!! Quit on his stool!

Posted March 25, 2013 9:05 am 


I’m glad Stieglitz won. I had him winning the first fight by 3-4 rounds and was surprised when AA took it. Stieglitz deserved the win and winning it in the way he did was phenomenal!

Posted March 25, 2013 4:32 am 


I TOLD Abraham to change his style to improve his SKILLS long AGO but he didn’t take MY advice. Thats why he got SPANKED. I SAID that AVOIDING Punches is GREATER than Blocking Punches and I was CORRECT. Abraham agrees with ME on that.

Posted March 24, 2013 6:37 pm 


I agree with what somebody posted here about abrahams defence working against middleweighrs but not smws, its pretty obvious to everyone now, however he still carries the power advantage so really he should be swinging for the fences early not his opponents

Posted March 24, 2013 5:07 pm 

AA nuthugger

no credit to robert, just badmouthing of the great aa. get lives.

Posted March 24, 2013 4:49 pm 


King Arthur did really well against Bouadala, but this defeat put his carreer in a different light, Stieglitz being far from a top Smw. Kessler winning in London against Froch, would never in a million years meet an amateur like Stieglitz, ever. Kessler would clearly stop Stieglitz within 3 rounds.
King Arthur is done at Smw, he should never have focused on a powerful division like that. I have to say now that I think this speaks volumes, concerning AAs trainer, Uli Wegner. The worst trainer in pro boxing.

Posted March 24, 2013 1:11 pm 


I used to tell anybody that would listen, when Abraham was still a middleweight, that his opponents should simply fight him. All Abraham’s opponents would just stand off him, watching him cover up. Until he stepped in with Carl Froch. So obvious, and now they call it a ‘brilliant strategy’. Jesus Christ…..

Posted March 24, 2013 12:44 pm 


stieglitz looked good, he gameplanned well. That being said, the ref was terrible. Stieglitz’s plan was punch until abraham was about to punch and then hold. He held every 20 seconds, the ref has to do something about that. I dont like abraham’s turtle style, but I really hate a holding style. The point off abraham should have been off of stieglitz for repetitive holding, abraham’s penalty was only as a result of stieglitz holding. Its similar to when someone like mayweather ducks below the waist, and then the ref penalizes his opponent for hitting to the back of the head. I would like to have seen what happened in this fight if the ref would have handled the fight properly. I still expect stieglitz would have won, as I had bet on him, but I don’t like the way it went down.

Posted March 24, 2013 12:29 pm 

Sad Ken

Does his wife know about this Ray?

Posted March 24, 2013 8:08 am 

raygordon reid


Posted March 24, 2013 6:58 am 


Abraham is on the slide though. Well done Stieglitz but he got Abraham at the right time and out of his natural weight-limit. I like Stieglitz but I need more convincing that he is do well against Ward, Froch and Kessler

Posted March 24, 2013 6:30 am 


Yeah but Abraham had success despite his defensive flaws, not because of them. If he had developed upper-body movement and defensive subtlety to go with his natural toughness and power ….. who knows how good Abraham could of been.

Posted March 24, 2013 6:28 am 


That performance from Steigliz was more impressive than anyone else’s by far, he stopped the unstoppable and now he deserves the winner of Froch vs Kessler fight.

Posted March 24, 2013 6:12 am 


remember he was unbeaten at middleweight, lots of fights where his opponent would wear themselves out hitting his gloves then he would KO them in the later rounds when they were severely fatigued.

Posted March 24, 2013 6:10 am 


It worked against middleweights Neil but not the harder punching SM’s

Posted March 24, 2013 6:08 am 


Abraham defence was always pretty basic. Just standing there and covering-up with a high guard is in the idiots-guide-to-boxing. Felix Sturm does the same thing as do a lot of German based fighters. I think the level of coaching in Germany is pretty poor. Look at Hellenius for example …. it is about time someone told him about upper-body-movement.

Posted March 24, 2013 6:05 am 


That eye socket of Abes looked smashed up bad, great performance.

Posted March 24, 2013 5:45 am 


Rubber match or Groves!!! Happy with either

Posted March 24, 2013 1:00 am 

The Low Blow !

robert using some of wards method of punch your opponent then tie him up so he cant hit you back !

Posted March 24, 2013 12:02 am 

Ray Ray

Can smell a gd rivalry between these 2, fight no. 3 on the way

Posted March 23, 2013 11:43 pm 


Abraham’s skills are so limited. If he was a better boxer he wouldn’t need to rely on a turtle defense. Oh well. Now he knows. For the 4th time.

Posted March 23, 2013 11:38 pm 

The Low Blow !

this was a rematch !

Posted March 23, 2013 11:23 pm 


I dont know if Stieglitz would have survived 12 rounds with Abraham. He was not stopped but the fight was stopped because his left eye was completely bocked. They should do a reamtch.

Posted March 23, 2013 10:13 pm 


Stieglitz did well stopping a sturdy Abraham so early in a fight. Not that Abraham showed much, really only that he resorts to putting on ear muffs when his opponent attacks. The sole ding in Stieglitz’s performance: He should have ripped Abraham’s body more when Arthur was using the turtle defense. On the plus side, Stieglitz showed pretty quick hands, that he packs more power than his resume suggests, a decent arsenal of punches and a strong desire to win. HOWEVER, he’s not ready for Ward. BUT I’d love to see him in with a Bute, Kessler, and perhaps Froch next.

Posted March 23, 2013 8:34 pm 

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