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everyone knows that you cant compare keeler or sturm with abraham abraham is way better doesnt matter he lost 3 games hes gonna have a comeback soon

Posted August 26, 2012 11:50 pm 


Sargis: i think Abraham fights the wrong way too, but its way too late to change his way of fighting.

Posted August 26, 2012 3:45 pm 


Shtigliz workrate was quite high compare to Arthur, AA landed more clean shots, but this fight winner was decided before even the fight started, I thought challenger should have done more work to win the title from the champion. In this case it looked like Stieglitz was the challenger.
It’s shame that AA could not compete with the elite’s of the division and will most likely follow Ottke’s route stay home make a bit money (good plan)
Well good for him, and all the best

Posted August 26, 2012 2:29 pm 

terry buck

i meant to say abraham barely makes the top ten in his division

Posted August 26, 2012 11:10 am 

terry buck

how bad a fighter do you have to be to lose to abraham.there is no way abraham should have a world title belt around his waiste.boxing needs to get back to one title for each division.all these title belts are ruining boxing.that fact is arthur abraham now holds a world title and he makes the top ten in his division

Posted August 26, 2012 11:08 am 


Waddya know? I really thought Stieglitz would pull it out on points. I didn’t see the fight though. I was on the road. Anyways, congrats Arthur.

Posted August 26, 2012 9:39 am 


I think Arthur Abraham would win Froch, Dirrell, and Ward, if he had a trainer from the USA. He needs US style of fighting. Do you agree???

Posted August 26, 2012 8:00 am 



Posted August 26, 2012 6:43 am 


Why should Sauerland and K2 fight on the same card when both of the Companies fill stadiums each times they make a card? The biggest stadium is in Dortmund and holds only 80.000 seats. K2 sells each card to more than 125 countries and Sauerland just a little behind so no reason to merge cards. This is also the reason that boxers in the EU generally are paid better than in the US with the except of Floyd and Pac.

Posted August 26, 2012 5:13 am 


I had it 7 rds. to Stieg and 5 to Arthur……

Posted August 26, 2012 4:57 am 

boxing barlow

Am under the impression there is some kind of agreement already made for the winner to fight George groves

Posted August 26, 2012 4:13 am 

boxing barlow

Argh! Don’t mention Sven ottke! It reminds me of the robin Reid robbery and makes me wanna cry lol

Posted August 26, 2012 4:12 am 

boxing barlow

Agreed. Fair play to Abraham for stepping out of his comfort zone, stepping out of his weight division, taking on guys bigger than him, going on the road. I didn’t go well for him but he’s took on the best.

Posted August 26, 2012 4:10 am 

boxing barlow

Froch won the fight, check box rec if you don’t believe me. Dirrell was a gimp in that fight. It’s boxing not a game of tig.

Posted August 26, 2012 4:03 am 


not a robeery at all – personally i had it 114-114 but the rounds won by abraham were more clear than those won by stieglitz- so am ok with decision but was close and 116-112 seems bit too much for me

Posted August 26, 2012 2:56 am 


116-112, not 116-114 for Abraham, of course. Didn’t sleep, still drunk. :mrgreen:

Posted August 26, 2012 2:23 am 


I also scored it 116-114 for Abraham. Stieglitz was definitely a very weak smw champion, though. That would have been an easy belt for e.g. Froch. Now, Froch could defeat Abraham again, get the title and ask Ward for a unification fight, that Ward would easily win.

Posted August 26, 2012 2:18 am 


Good win by Krasniqi ! He is really getting stronger in each fight .
He is young and tall I think he can do very well as a cruserweight.

Posted August 25, 2012 11:55 pm 


Steve Otke,,Once again!!!!

Posted August 25, 2012 10:54 pm 


Abraham isn’t german, dopey.

Posted August 25, 2012 8:58 pm 


Hey Mayweather1, Robert Stieglitz is also based in Germany, so how could the outcome of the fight be a ‘hometown robbery’? Abraham and Stieglitz are both originally from the former Soviet Union – Abraham is from Armenia and Stieglitz is from Russia [I recently found out that Armenia was one of the 16 countries making up the Soviet Union – that’s why some Armenians also speak russian]. About 2 years ago, Stieglitz said in an interview he was born and raised in Russia but his family moved to Russia from Germany a few generations back, and he has the last name to prove it – Stieglitz is a german name. Get the facts before making comments and assumptions about ‘hometown robberies’ or hometown decisions.

Posted August 25, 2012 8:11 pm 

Boxing Fanatic

im american and judges in our country r 1 of the worst judges around

Posted August 25, 2012 7:58 pm 

Boxing Fanatic

115-113 what? an american judge. no surprise there. LOL

Posted August 25, 2012 7:57 pm 

Boxing Fanatic

this is the 2nd report that said it was a close fight. LOL what fight were u guys watching? abraham was winning comfortably

Posted August 25, 2012 7:55 pm 


I think Abraham would and should fight Sturm at a catchweight of 164 or 165, because I doubt that he can get back down to 160 lbs. Also, if the fight was at a catchweight, the loser wouldn’t have to worry about losing his title, theoretically. Maybe the sanctioning body would strip either guy of their titles for fighting at a catchweight, but usually, they do allow ONE fight at a different weight without stripping their champion. If they fight at a catchweight, they can both go back to their own weight-classes and defend their titles, regardless of who wins the catchweight fight. I believe the Klitschko brothers promote their own fights with their company called K2. If Abraham could get a co-feature/undercard fight on a Klitschko fight, that would be huge for him finincially, or if not financially, at least he would get huge exposure. This is off-topic, but does anyone have any idea why the Klitschko brothers never fight on the same card? if they are having live-gate attendances of 50,000, wouldn’t a show with both brothers defending their titles likely have an attendance of 100,000+? They already fight in stadiums. If the Klitschkos fought on the same card, with Sturm and/or Abraham on the undercard, That fight could be on the level of a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight in Europe (but not worldwide) financially – I mean now that the Mayweather-Pacquiao is not as appealing as before.

Posted August 25, 2012 7:54 pm 


Hey Viking, Abraham won the SUPER-middleweight belt – NOT the WBO middleweight belt. I believe the WBO middleweight belt belongs to Dmitriy Pirog. I might’ve spelled Pirog’s first name wrong but I’m talking about the pale, red-headed russian kid who is undefeated. Yes, Sturm is a big draw in Germany but Kessler is well-known throughout Europe. Kessler is from Denmark but he became well known in the U.K. after giving Calzaghe a close and competitive fight. I believe Kessler and Abraham could draw a huge crowd in Germany or Denmark. I think a venue in Germany might be more lucrative than fighting in Denmark because Denmark is a smaller country. Sturm and Abraham should’ve fought a long time ago, when they were both middleweight titlists. Abraham vacated his IBF middleweight title and took on BIGGER challenges (and physically bigger opponents) instead of fighting Sturm for a BIG unification fight in Germany. Abraham gets a lot of credit from me for vacating his middleweight title, where he was fighting B-class or c-class mandatory opponents and defending his title in Germany, like Sturm. Abraham wanted new challenges and stardom in the USA and he didn’t make excuses in the post-fight interviews when Froch and Ward beat him – he really had no explanation when he lost to them – he just accepted it and moved on.

Posted August 25, 2012 7:38 pm 

Bo Bo Olson

Arthur did not wing shots, he didn’t use his jab as much as he could but more than normal. He wasn’t always in the clam shell, fighting often more open. He kept it simple, shorter one two punches with an occasional cross, fewer wild swinging, and seldom reaching back for power. He was never fitter, even his face was skinny. I did not see him, tiring that much out the last three rounds. I saw at least two of the last three rounds going to Arthur. I expected Stieglitz to win by points he’s a full 12 round condition bomb, 116-114 was how I saw it, for Arthur…I could see the other scores, Arthur won rounds in the last minute, that were tight. Stieglitz was staggered a couple of times. In six months a rematch will be possible, if a Strum fight don’t come in between. I’ve seen Stieglitz often, and he is not a bum. It was a good fight. IMO.

Posted August 25, 2012 7:29 pm 


He was completely outclassed by that “gimp” and hit the guy on the chin while defenseless. What a hero. Still mad that “gimp” also beat Froch in his hometown? :cool:

Posted August 25, 2012 7:11 pm 


fair scores….i had it 115-113 for AA. Stieglitz didn’t land many effective shots but did outhustle him, all the clean hard blows were from AA.

Posted August 25, 2012 7:08 pm 


Close fight I had Stieglitz winning 115-113, but It wasn’t a robbery at all.

Posted August 25, 2012 7:08 pm 

check hook

this is why foch and ward are world class Stieglitz didn’t do his home work by attacking the body for Abraham to drop his hands Stieglitz fought a bad fight by standing in front of him

Posted August 25, 2012 7:07 pm 

Cheese Cake

Honestly, I was a bit shocked by the scores…

Posted August 25, 2012 7:07 pm 

Cheese Cake

Close fight and I am not crying about robberie,,,

Did’nt scored it RBR but overall I thought RS made the fight and WON the fight.

Posted August 25, 2012 7:05 pm 


Cuba USA hahaha :mrgreen:

Posted August 25, 2012 6:32 pm 


Looks like Helenius and Huck were right

Posted August 25, 2012 6:27 pm 


Dara totally agree Bro I bet on RS to win this was YET AGAIN another hometown robbery

Posted August 25, 2012 6:24 pm 


Robbery anyone?

Posted August 25, 2012 6:22 pm 


I had Steglitz winning it by 2-3 rounds. Will never see Arthur fight outside Germany again. He tried to mix it with the big boys and came up way to short. Good luck to him all the same he seems a decent bloke and he put that gimp Dirrell out of the game for a few years which was welcome by everyone.

Posted August 25, 2012 6:22 pm 

Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Music: eye of the tiger with german accent and deutsche schlager by Dj Otzi……this is corny as hell lol

Posted August 25, 2012 5:18 pm 

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