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TARK

There’s a difference… Kovalev didn’t get knocked out by Darnell Boone, but instead beat him twice. Kovalev boxes better and is tougher…

Stevenson is tough. That’s why it’s such a good matchup.

But the fight needs to be made… I hate to see super fights being sat on for years… These guys can always fight 2 or 3 times — but that can’t happen if they never fight once.

Posted April 2, 2014 5:52 pm 


Cantabile

Eventually, Stevenson and Kovalev will fight. Al Haymon is going to avoid the match as long as possible so that his fighter can soak up as much dinero as he can before taking such a high risk fight. Almost everybody seems to pick the Russian to beat A.D. – it should be noted that Kovalev has not met a fighter with the punch-power and hand speed that Stevenson brings to the table. The fact of the matter is that either man is capable of knocking out the other. This really is a toss up fight. Nothing like the one sided Kovalev beatdown so many are making it out to be.

Posted April 1, 2014 3:40 pm 


Hamster-in-law

Actually that looks more like Idiot’s me Ernie.

Posted April 1, 2014 1:31 am 


TARK

Kovalev wants to kill Stevenson. He’s had 215 amateur and 24 professional fights. He’s pretty much seen everything any southpaw can bring and Stevenson isn’t that great of a defender. He’s got a mouth on him that doesn’t quit.

Adonis is a pimp. He treats women like trash. He’s got a street mentality … and that’s why he’s tossing all those tweets around.

Posted March 31, 2014 5:24 pm 


Bop-a-Lumas

What I really think has Kovalev fired up has to do with Adonis’s recently made disparaging comments about Kovalev’s homely features, [long jaw/pencil neck, etc]. Prior to those insults, Kovalev, even while calling for the fight, was doing so in a fairly congenial manner. That’s all changed now. These guys genuinely hate each other – which makes the eventual fight between them even more compelling

Posted March 31, 2014 4:49 pm 


Anonymous

I actually agree Kovalev has looked “spectacular,” but against who really?? Everyone he’s fought stays in front of him, sort of begging to be hit. He needs to be careful what he asks because he just may get it……

Posted March 31, 2014 9:50 am 


Anonymous

Stevenson is in the drivers seat and has every right to say when, how and where. Kovalev needs to STFU, continue wait his turn, and think about using an interpreter whenever he’s interviewed because aside from only knowing how to say, “he’s a piece of sh!t,” he really makes an ass of himself trying to communicate in a language he obviously knows nothing of.

Posted March 31, 2014 9:47 am 


Anonymous

Tark is also un patito!

Posted March 31, 2014 9:41 am 


Anonymous

TARK says:
TARK

Lara calling out GGG is stupid… If he beats a ranking middleweight he can call out Gennady.

Lara should be fighting Floyd in a title unification fight.

Posted March 31, 2014 2:08 am

Wrong again, TARK.

As a reigning champion at 154, Lara has every right to call out the Champion at the weight above and get a straight title shot against him. it’s been done 100s of times, as you should know as you have always castigated Marvelous Marvin Hagler for accepting challenges from the likes of Hearns, DURAN and MUGABI who came up from 154 to duke it out with him.
TARK, you really are an imbecile.

Posted March 31, 2014 8:28 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

That’s exactly right, TARK. And that’s why Lara has been focused on calling out FMJ at 154lbs, first and foremost. They’re both with Showtime and have close ties to Haymon and Golden Boy, so making the fight should be a piece of cake.

Lara and 3G are at different weight classes and 3G’s next fight is at 168lbs. Plus EL knows a fight with 3G likely can’t be made, so he can call him out as many times as he wants because nothing is gonna happen. They belong to different networks and promotional companies, so it’s almost impossible the fight would happen unless those parties can come to an agreement — or one of the two fighters ops-out of their current deal/contract.

It may sound easy, but the reality is that if Lara tired to fight 3G, Golden Boy and Showtime would sue him and the others involved in making the fight. It ain’t gonna happen, but keep talkin’ Lara! Focus on securing fights with FMJ and Canelo at 54.

Posted March 31, 2014 3:29 am 


TARK

Lara calling out GGG is stupid… If he beats a ranking middleweight he can call out Gennady.

Lara should be fighting Floyd in a title unification fight.

Posted March 31, 2014 2:08 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

BUSTAJAY: Nice post, brother. There have been some good trainers that never boxed, but the very best trainers have had some experience fighting in the ring — at least at amateur level.

I don’t agree with you on what would happen with this particular match-up, mano, but I do respect your insight and opinions. The exact same sentiment applies to HidalgO.

Posted March 30, 2014 7:09 pm 


TNT

Kovalev shpuld have no problem with Adonis STEPHENS SINCE sTEPHNS TELEGRAPH HIS PUNCHES. tHE ONLY FIGHTER THAT MAY GIVE kOVALEV PROBLE IS AndreWard with his Elite boxing skills. Which I would make the fight 60 40 AndreWard Stepenson is way to slow of hand and foot

Posted March 30, 2014 6:53 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Nope. You’ve said the same thing about Popkins calling out Kova, which has been proven to be 100% pure B.S. Lara has been calling out FMJ at 154lbs and he’s been ducking — again. It’s all over the web, so I’m sure you’ve seen it. That’s a fact! So what kind of excuses you gonna continue making for Floyd?

Posted March 30, 2014 6:42 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

3G also competed at Light WW in the amateurs, which has a maximum weight limit of 63.5 kg (140lbs). So I don’t ever want to see you spreading these LIES and saying he’s never made 154lbs in his life — not even in the amateurs. Got it, BEE-J? Good boy.

Posted March 30, 2014 5:37 pm 


Harry

Sorry, posted that on wrong thread…

Posted March 30, 2014 5:06 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

You do realize that 3G completed at MW in the ’04 Olympics? The MW division at that games was limited to boxers weighing 69-75 kg (152 – 165lbs). That means 3G could’ve easily weighed less than 160lbs — especially considering he competed at Light MW just two years earlier. The MAXIMUM weight for the Light MW division at the ’02 Asian Games was 71kg (156lbs), which means he could’ve been as light as 67kg (148lbs).

So you’re DEAD WRONG when you say, “he has never made 154 and never fought at 154 even as an amateur.” And I NEVER once said, “he called out folks all the way to 175.” That’s another blatant LIE outta your dirty pie-hole. It took Ward two years to finally say he’d fight 3G. Why so long???
I’ve never heard anything about Lara calling out 3G, but he’s certainly calling out FMJ — and everyone knows it! Those are the plain and simple facts, ret@rd. We’ll see if Popkins finally musters the courage to face Kovalev. I have serious doubts, but really hope he does. I want to see that racist sack of sh*t get smashed out and retired in brutal, humiliating fashion.

Posted March 30, 2014 5:03 pm 


PEEJ

Your full of it. You do realize GGG is a 160lb fighter right? Not a 154 fighter. He has never made 154 and never fought at 154 even as an amateur so you are full of it. And again like you said he called out folks all the way to 175. What weight does Hopkins fight at? And Hopkins said he would take the fight. So did Ward. As a matter of fact Lara called out GGG and they didn’t even acknowledge him saying he is not on the approved list by HBO. Hopkins is also on record after Murat had visa issues saying he would fight Kovalev. And fact is if a contract couldn’t be agreed upon by both parties then it goes to purse bid. Those are the facts.

Posted March 30, 2014 4:04 pm 


Glaswegian Headbutt

“Glaswegian Kiss is being ironic, I think.”

By jove somebody got it!

Posted March 30, 2014 3:58 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Dude… you’re totally full of sh*t — to the point of being a pathological liar. 3G never called out Hopkins. He challenged all champions from 154-168lbs over two years ago. Ward responded with silence until just recently. If he does make 3G an offer after he fights Chavez, you can rest assured that he’ll take it. Fact: GGG has been totally avoided by the other champions at his weight-class (Maravilla, Chocolate). And he’s also being avoided by FMJ, among others, at 154lbs.

Hopkins is on record (quoted in an interview) saying that he wanted Kovalev to go fight Cleverly because he was waiting for an offer from Adonis. SK, being the stay-busy fighter he is, wasn’t about to sit around and wait 2-4 months for Hopkins to either accept or refuse his mandatory challenge. Hopkins was totally silent after being called-out by SK until he heard that the negotiations with Cleverly were a done deal. Then he started shooting his mouth off. SK called out Adonis right after his last fight (Sillah) and AS responded with silence and then jumped ship to Showtime. Now the fight probably can never be made and now AS suddenly has the courage to shoot his mouth off. Those are the FACTS, son!

Posted March 30, 2014 3:47 pm 


PEEJ

Kovalev was Hopkins mandatory but chose to fight for the WBO belt.

Posted March 30, 2014 3:40 pm 


Jay

When’s that coward Hopkins going to fight Kovo

Posted March 30, 2014 3:31 pm 


PEEJ

Just like Margacheato was the most avoided man till Williams beat him. Then they tried that garbage with Williams and then he got beat. The most avoided garbage is just that GARBAGE

Posted March 30, 2014 3:14 pm 


PEEJ

Nobody is avoiding them. Just because their team says it does not make it true. GGG called out Ward and Hopkins. Both said they would accept and then he retracted that statement and said he wanted to clean out 160 and then he has now proceeded to fight Chavez Jr at 168. But he is being avoided of course. Then Kovalev had the chance to fight Hopkins because he was his mandatory but yet he went a different direction. Yet he is being avoided. Please. If they offer up the money then the fights will be there.

Posted March 30, 2014 3:12 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

I can barely understand what you meant because that sentence was written so poorly. But no, I do not rate 3G and Kova as great. I rate them as having the specific tools, techniques and skill-sets needed to be on the path to greatness. They may never be considered “great” by boxing analysts, writers and historians if the other champions and top-tier fighters in this era continue to avoid them.

Posted March 30, 2014 2:21 pm 


PEEJ

So basically you are saying 2 fighters with out the pro experience as the fighters you mentioned, hasn’t fought the caliber of fighters they have fought but yet you seem to already rate them great. lol

Posted March 30, 2014 1:50 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

I’ve always really liked Ward, but truth is he’s a little overrated by some fans — especially by Boxtra and other Americans. Sure he’s still undefeated and won the Super Six, but I don’t believe he’s ever beaten a great fighter. Dawson, Froch, Abraham, Bika, Green and Kessler are really good, but not one of them is great. And not one of them has murderous power combined with a rock-solid chin, like 3G and Kovalev.

But Ward is probably the one champion who has the best chance at outpointing/outboxing one or both of those guys. Those are match-ups that I’d love to see and really hope they get made soon. We the fans deserve it! But I have my doubts either fight will be made. Ward is actually much closer in size to SK, so should step and fight him. (3G is a small MW and could fight at 154lbs if he wanted to.)

Posted March 30, 2014 1:47 pm 


Fred

Glaswegian Kiss is being ironic, I think. Head butts, low blows and elbows are Hopkins and Stevenson’s best chance of beating Kovalev though, lol!

Posted March 30, 2014 1:39 pm 


Boxtradamus

Kovalev’s handlers are SO dumb that they’re threatening to SUE Stevenson’s team which could permanently sever any future relationship when all they have to DO is simply move over to Showtime and continue to chase him.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:38 pm 


Boxtradamus

Put the blame on Kovalev’s promoter. The DUMMY is TOO dumb to simply move his Fighter over to Showtime where all the other CHAMPS in his Division are. Boxing is a Sport not a channel. Stevenson has actually outsmarted him SO far because IF Kovalev doesn’t smarten UP and move to Showtime then Stevenson could end UP with 3 major titles to Kovalev’s one.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:35 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Kovalev got badly cut by a single headbutt by the totally inexperienced Agnew, so how does he think he’s going to handle the likes of Hopkins and Ward, who are seasoned masters of the art of leading with the head?” – You might’ve forgot Kovalev’s performance wasn’t affected by the headbutt or elbow that caused the cuts. Still won every round, still won by KO. So Kovalev has to learn to defend himself against illegal blows now? If that’s the only “flaw” in his game I’ll take it.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:33 pm 


Boxtradamus

Ask Golovkin how long its going to take. He’s the one holding everything UP. Ward is on record saying that he is ready to face him right NOW….and Ward gave UP weight in the Olympics. He only at LHW so his buddy Dirrell could be on the team TOO. Ward knew at a young age that SKILLS was more important than SIZE SO he fought Bigger guys in the Olympics and still came home with the Gold. And Fighting overseas couldn’t STOP him.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:31 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Put Kovalev in with anyone at 175 and he grinds them to a pulp. LOL at Stevenson trying to talk trash back on Twitter. That’s like a kid running behind his mom’s skirt and talking tough. Child vs Man. Put a fork in Kovalev-Stevenson ever happening and the blame is 100% on Stevenson.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:30 pm 


rich

Boxing has had great white champions and many great black champions, but it’s the ‘Great Black Hope’ at Heavyweight they’re looking for these days…White Eastern Europeans have been running the show for the past decade…

Posted March 30, 2014 1:29 pm 


rich

Yeah right, Boxtra…Andre has to wait for GGG to step up, so he ‘SPANK’ him, so he can THEN go up to light-heavy and spank Kovalev…hahahaha! How long is that going to take? Very handy for Andre, very convenient..Andre won gold at light-heavy, so he can go up to ‘SPANK’ Sergey pretty soon, no?…or is ‘SOG’ ducking the dangerous fighters these days

Posted March 30, 2014 1:26 pm 


Boxtradamus

Well then again it may not be SOON. Golovkin is SO terrified of Ward that he’s already SAID that after defeating Chavez Jr. at 168 he will RUN right back to 160. He wanted to make sure that the SHARK of 168 doesn’t start licking his chops……”Please don’t eat ME UP for venturing into YOUR waters. I just want to eat this EASY prey and then I will return to my own domain. Please have mercy on ME”

Posted March 30, 2014 1:12 pm 


Human

“Peej, I hate to say it, but I think Kovalev has been boosted to the position as the next “great white hope.””

@Hidalgo

Clearly this has passed you by, but there have in fact been many more “white” than “black” world champion title holders from Middleweight upwards for many years now: consider e.g. Pavlik, Abraham, Ottke, Stieglitz, Berrio, Beyer, Magee, Collins, Mundine, Calzaghe, Sturm, Sylvester, Geale, Barker, Pirog, Sartison, Kessler, Froch, Bute, Froch, Balzsay, Michalczewski, Woods, Maccarinelli, Braehmer, Cleverly, Wlodarczyk, Lebedev, Włodarczyk, Fragomeni, Erdei, Arslan, Huck, Adamek, Chagaev, Maskaev, Ibragimov, Valuev, Povetkin, the Klitschkos, Golovkin… and many others.

Under such circumstances, don’t you think it’s a bit silly to keep on talking about people wanting a “great white hope”?!

Also, while you (and other racists) may think of e.g. Andre Ward as “black”, his dad was white, and it’s him who got him into boxing. So he’s neither “white” nor “black”, and this goes for plenty of other fighters you would no doubt call “black”.

Really, race has nothing to do with it, and it sickens me that people bring it up so often in these forums, but it’s especially ignorant to talk about a “great white hope” in e.g. the Supermiddle, Lightheavy and Heavyweight divisions, because they have not been dominated by black fighters for more than a decade now.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:10 pm 


PEEJ

Nope I don’t downgrade every good boxer. I just don’t jump right on the bandwagon of a fighter who is being promoted as the next big thing. Sorry and I could care less about his color. The fact is he needs to face someone who can fight back and has decent defense and a decent chin. Instead he is feasting on fighters that really have no business being in the ring with a fighter of his caliber. Apparently some of you think you know more about boxing than what you really do. Its ok, we can’t know everything. I know I don’t know everything but I am not gonna jump on till I am completely sold. And its not that I am not sold on Kovalev I think he is a beast, but I also want to see him in there with someone that will fight back, not just sit back with his arms up and take every punch thrown.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:09 pm 


Boxtradamus

He soon WILL. He’s just waiting on Golovkin to step UP and face him like his trainer barked. As SOON as he SPANKS Golovkin he will move his Kingdom UP to Light Heavy and reign TERROR on them with much SKILLS and Boxing IQ.

Posted March 30, 2014 1:07 pm 


rich

Lets see Andre Ward step up to light-heavy then..

Posted March 30, 2014 1:03 pm 


Boxtradamus

Of COURSE Kovalev would be dissected by Ward. Ward is the PRINCE of Boxing. But that’s nothing to hang your head about. Everyone else in Ward’s weight range will get SPANKED TOO. Ward is SO GREAT that he makes the Top level Fighters feel allergic to Belts… They say “IF Ward has the belt than I don’t want it”

Posted March 30, 2014 1:02 pm 


rich

PEEJ downplays every good white boxer.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:59 pm 


Fred

Head-butts, low blows and using elbows are all FOULS! It’s called BOXING, NOT STREET-FIGHTING. It’s a referee’s job to call them. The ref tells them all this just before the fights starts, or should do! Some of the refs these days, idk…Kovalev TKO’s Hopkins if B Hop has to fight a clean fight.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:57 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Sorry, but some of you guys think you know more about boxing than you really do. Probably have never boxed a round in your entire lives. If you don’t think Kovalev is an elite fighter, you have no idea what you’re looking at. Not a clue. Southpaw Stevenson has pure dynamite in his left hand, but his jab, overall technique and skill-set are limited. And in 2010, he was TKO’d by an absolute tin can with a pathetic 18% KO ratio.

Kovalev is the far more experienced and thoroughly skilled boxer (239 fights). He’s multi-dimensional and appears to have a rock-solid chin. Clearly, SK has huge power of his own, but has it in both hands — not just one. Last night he stopped a tough, undefeated fighter with a jab to the body. That’s highly unusual and takes serious firepower!

Posted March 30, 2014 12:52 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

So what if SK got a couple small cuts from Agnew’s illegal headbutts and elbows? It didn’t stop him from smashing Agnew and scoring a highly-impressive stoppage. You guys are grasping for straws here.

Sounds like you’re saying that Hopkins and Ward would have to fight dirty and use headbutts and illegal shots in order to beat SK?

Posted March 30, 2014 12:48 pm 


Glaswegian Kiss

Yeah, I agree with PEEJ, Hidalgo and Bustjay. Kovalev got badly cut by a single headbutt by the totally inexperienced Agnew, so how does he think he’s going to handle the likes of Hopkins and Ward, who are seasoned masters of the art of leading with the head?

Until Kovalev learns to defend himself against those skilful headbutts and elbowshots, he can forget about Ward and Hopkins. I have these two right at the top of my P4P headbutters, whereas Kovalev isn’t even in my top 100. He needs to earn his shot by improving his elbowwork and headwork first, then maybe we can talk seriously about him facing these two masters.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:36 pm 


Gus

It’s about money and gates. If you were Stevenson would you fight Kovalev with a risk of getting beat and a smaller gate or fight In Montreal with a less dangerous opponent and a bigger gate.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:33 pm 


Hidalg0

Peej, I hate to say it, but I think Kovalev has been boosted to the position as the next “great white hope.” Another Russian boxer has made America his home, and now he’s being unduly embraced as the next great thing. Wait til Ward moves up to light heavyweight.Ward will box his ears off, cut him to pieces, and leave Kovalev wondering what typhoon he walked in to.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:32 pm 


PEEJ

Hidalg0 at first I was thinking a poor mans Winky Wright but then I have come to the conclusion that it was just a broke mans version of Winky Wright and yet all the Kovalev fans are just going crazy about the win and saying everybody is ducking him.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:21 pm 


Fred

So Stevenson and Kovalev should meet then, so we find out the answer…

Posted March 30, 2014 12:12 pm 


Hidalg0

“We call this trash talk, writing checks your a..SS can not cover bro”

No kidding, Bustajay.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:11 pm 


Hidalg0

Peej, I have never seen a fighter with an undefeated record that had such poor defensive skills as Agnew does. With the exception of his high guard–which is full of holes by the way–the guy had no defense. No movement. He was an almost stationary target. He figured he would weather Kovalev’s storm then come on later in the fight. But any fool that just stands there and let’s himself be pounded on is setting himself up to be KOd. Regardless, Agnew did enough to make Kovalev sigh with relief when the fight was stopped. Adonis will do much much more than that to Kovalev should they ever meet.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:07 pm 


PEEJ

I assure nobody heard of Agnew. Check his record. He was fighting bums with records of 8 and 25, 3 and 10, 0 and 8.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:00 pm 


Tomato Can

Hildago, agreed. I think Kovalev is a promising talent. He brings the heat. It’s just that every time a fight comes along and starts blowing away lesser talented fighters fans start going into frenzy mode over the guy with claims that he’ll smash everyone. It happens every time, like clock work.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:57 am 


Tomato Can

I need to start following the light heavy weight division closer, cause I never even heard of Agnew.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:52 am 


Hidalg0

I agree with you too, Tomato Can. Stevenson made the move to Al Haymon with expectations of getting paid for what he thinks he’s worth. That’s it. It wasn’t to duck anyone. And contrary to what anyone has ever claimed, Stevenson has never looked away or shuddered in his boots when Kovalev’s name was mentioned to him. Stevenson will fight anyone. Just like Kovalev.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:51 am 


Hidalg0

Murderman, Ward would smoke Kovalev. Literally smoke him. Ward would make Kovalev look so bad that everyone would wonder what all the Kovalev hype is about. Ward is the most highly-skilled boxer that Kovalev could face. Ward would school him for 12 full rounds. If necessary.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:49 am 


Tomato Can

All this talk about Stevenson avoiding Kovelev is getting tiresome. Both fighters have a team with goals. Stevenson has bigger paydays on his radar with his fellow countrymen fights. If team Kovelev really wants the Stevenson fight then they should take out Stevenson’s possible competition instead of making stupid ESB fanatic level comments.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:49 am 


Hidalg0

“He is definitely a beast but I really want to see him fight someone that will fight back. All this most avoided fighter is bogus. If there is money in it someone will fight him.”

I totally agree with you, Peej.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:47 am 


Hidalg0

“It’s a shame Stevenson appears to be avoiding Kovalev”

How do you figure? Because everyone says so?

Posted March 30, 2014 11:45 am 


Popkins

It’s a shame Stevenson appears to be avoiding Kovalev. Adonis is THE champ. Unfortunately Sergey is merely the No.1 challenger until he fights and beats him..

Posted March 30, 2014 11:35 am 


PEEJ

Still like to see the fight. Beating bums doesn’t get you to the top. He is definitely a beast but I really want to see him fight someone that will fight back. All this most avoided fighter is bogus. If there is money in it someone will fight him.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:33 am 


murderman

Only person i can see maybe beating crusher is ward. He will have to be slick and use defense. But im sure ward’s tean arent dumb enough to put ward in w krusher. But at 175 no one beats krusher. Bhop in his prime maybe but at age 50 bhop gets murdered

Posted March 30, 2014 11:19 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

“Why don’t we see Kovalev vs. Tavoris Cloud or Chad Dawson … or maybe Kovalev s. Jean Pascal?”

Let’s not kid ourselves and make it sound like Cloud and Dawson are elite-level world champions. Yeah, they used to hold titles, but the Light HW division was pretty weak back then. I’d love to see those match-ups, but the truth is that Kova would smash all three of them. I seriously doubt that any of their promoters will be calling Main Events next week asking for a shot at SK’s title. But let’s hope they do — or at least accept an offer to fight for it.

Posted March 30, 2014 11:13 am 


Popkins

Love-the-Sport…you do know Cleverly beat Bellew, right? and in Bellew’s backyard of Liverpool too. And Nathan would have been the favourite over Cloud too. Kovalev DESTROYED Cleverly, and he did it in the UK..

Posted March 30, 2014 11:10 am 


Harry

P.S. Apart from Ward, I of course give Stevenson a chance against Kovalev, but not a very big one, frankly. Stevenson has a punchers’ chance, but he’s very limited, and Kovalev is a much better all-round boxer. I would expect Kovalev to do to Stevenson pretty much what he did to Agnew, and as Boone did to him, i.e. beat him by mid-round stoppage.

Posted March 30, 2014 10:55 am 


horst fraze

the only fighter that can give kovalev any trouble is andre ward, f#$k stevenson. he’s afraid to face him.

Posted March 30, 2014 10:52 am 


Harry

“Why don’t we see Kovalev vs. Tavoris Cloud or Chad Dawson … or maybe Kovalev s. Jean Pascal.”

Errm, do you really have to ask that?

Also: do you honestly believe any of those fighters could deal with Kovalev?

It’s the same situation as with Golovkin. With GGG, Kovalev is the most avoided fighter in the sport, with his peers not only giving him a wide berth (e.g. Stevenson’s move to Showtime), but even moving divisions to avoid him (e.g. Cleaverly and Bellew moving to Cruiser). And then people say: yeah, but who has he beat?

But really, if you know boxing, you should be able to recognise what you see in front of you, and GGG and Kovalev are both extremely skilled as well as carrying truly scary firepower.

The only fighter I’d give a real chance against Kovalev right now is Ward, but he has stated his intention to stay at Super Middleweight for at least a couple of years. I firmly believe that he would have started making fights at 175 by now, in order to be a two weight world champion, if it weren’t for the fact that there are these two monster punchers (Kovalev and Stevenson) waiting there for him.

For what it’s worth, I think that both Kovalev and GGG are the real deal. Whether or not either of them have what it takes to beat Ward, I don’t know, but unless Ward turns out to be another Mayweather, always making excuses to avoid the big challenges, he will have to fight one of these two within the next couple of years, and so we will get to find out.

Meanwhile, I think there will be pressure on Ward after Froch-Groves to fight the winner (who I think will be Groves), and to do so in the UK. We’ll then find out if Ward really has any balls: i.e. if he’s not prepared to fight the winner of Froch-Groves in the UK, in front of the second biggest ever crowd for a boxing match, we’ll know that he hasn’t.

Posted March 30, 2014 10:51 am 


matthews

Stevenson is hauling ass so he must think the crusher has something to him.

Posted March 30, 2014 10:41 am 


Love-the-Sport

I would also ask you guys who are comparing Kovalev to Stevenson …

Stevenson has fought and beat-up real fighters … Don George, Chad Dawson, Tavoris Cloud, Tony Bellew. I mean these guys are not Hall of Fame fighters — but they are Top 10 / Top 20 guys.

Who exactly has Kovalev fought? Nathan Cleverly … OK … Ismail Sillah … OK … but are these guys really the same as Don George, Chad Dawson, Tavoris Cloud, and Tony Bellew.

I mean, the performance from Kovalev vs. Agnew was actually not great. And Kovalev has not really fought top guys. Why do we all need a fight with Kovalev vs. Stevenson?

Why don’t we see Kovalev vs. Tavoris Cloud or Chad Dawson … or maybe Kovalev s. Jean Pascal.

Kovalev knocked out Agnew. But who is Agnew? And Kovalev did not exactly look great doing it. Let’s see Kovalev in real fights against real fighters.

Posted March 30, 2014 10:29 am 


Love-the-Sport

Would anybody say that this was a great win for Kovalev?

(a) Who the f*ck is Cedric Agnew?

(b) How many punches did Agnew throw in the entire fight? 20? 30?

(c) How many times did Agnew connect on Kovalev with a hard shot? 10?

(d) Was Kovalev bleeding and beat up?

Kovalev won the fight. Kovalev over-powered Agnew. Kovalev knocked Agnew down a bunch of times.

But Kovalev also looked a little bit exposed by fighting an absolute nobody who throw hardly any punches, connected on Kovalev a bunch of times, and blooded him up.

(I know, I know, there were some headbutts and low blows involved — but there were also some good counter left hands and counter right hands that connected on Kovalev hard).

Can anybody say that Kovalev really looked great?

Posted March 30, 2014 10:17 am 


PEEJ

Actually what that is saying is that these trainers need to learn how to train. If you can let a 50 year old man run circles around you, then hold you and you don’t have the power to get him off you then either you are not accepting what your trainer is teaching you or you are not being taught right.

Posted March 30, 2014 10:14 am 


Gus

Hopkins has mastered the art of stealing rounds and ekeing out decisions. He runs around the ring for 2 minutes, jumps in, clinches , and flurries in the last seconds to steal the round. Any manager who puts his fighter in the ring with Hopkins needs to have their heads examined. He will every trick in the book to win a fight. The man has no pride.

Posted March 30, 2014 9:53 am 


PEEJ

Kovalev needs to be in there with someone who can move and throw punches back. Agnew was fighting a list of bums before stepping up to the real deal in Kovalev. That is like a highschool football team beating up in the 7th grade team then going against and NFL team. So nothing was really proven in this fight. I did like what he said in his interview about Stevenson though. That was classic.

Posted March 30, 2014 9:33 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Kovalev reminds me of Marciano. His punishment just accumulates and he wears you down over time with brutal power.

Its going to take a very skilled boxer to keep Kovalev off him.

Posted March 30, 2014 9:24 am 


Popkins

Hopkins shud take a leaf out of Lennox’s book. Lewis is a shining example of how to exit boxing at the perfect time.

Posted March 30, 2014 9:03 am 


Popkins

Matthews… True. But even for Hopkins this is a stretch too far. Ending his career getting steamrolled by a fairly green fighter in Kovalev, followed by a thumping at the hands of Stevenson, is not a good final chapter to the Hopkins story. The damage to is health is hardly a bonus either. Ali shud hav retired after beating Spinks. RJJ shud hav called it a day after losing on points to Tarver – embarrassing losses to Calzaghe, Green and Lebedev certainly did not enhance his hall of fame career.

Posted March 30, 2014 8:59 am 


Xavier

Sergey-Adonis is the fight at 175…Hopkins is still a potenially intriguing matchup, but B Hop is old. He might have his hands full with Shumenov..The Eastern European influx of fighters winning world titles like GGG, Kovalev and the recent top amateur stars who have turned pro such as Usyk, Lomachenko, Beterbiev and Mekhontsev are all names to keep an eye on…

Posted March 30, 2014 8:51 am 


matthews

Yeah but if he schools all 3 at the age of 50, he is gotta be ranked up there.

Posted March 30, 2014 8:31 am 


Popkins

Hopkins May hav had the ring IQ to school Pavlik a few years ago. But Bernard is even older now, and Sergey is bigger, more powerful and more agile than Kelly was. Kovalev wud surely have KO’d a flat footed fighter like Pavlik with relative ease.

Posted March 30, 2014 8:24 am 


Popkins

Hopkins shud retire after outpointing Shumenov. He’s had a great career. Nobody will think anything less of him for refusing to step in the ring with Kovalev. He’s almost 50 years old! I’m not a huge fan of Hopkins, but I don’t want to see him get severely beaten up either!

Posted March 30, 2014 8:19 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Tark, I like the way you think.

Posted March 30, 2014 7:09 am 


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Posted March 30, 2014 7:03 am 


Harry

Funny that Stevenson is now shouting “come on then!” now that he knows he’s safe behind the Showtime curtain. Typical coward.

Posted March 30, 2014 6:40 am 


Harry

‘After the fight Krusher said, “It was a difficult fight tonight because I got the two cuts. One from his hand and one from his shoulder.”‘

He said HEAD and ELBOW, not HAND and SHOULDER. (Some translator “corrected” him when he said “elbow”, saying “shoulder”, but I’m pretty sure he did mean “elbow”).

Posted March 30, 2014 6:37 am 


FACTS OF LIFE

This is a tweet from Adonis Stevenson after Krusher’s win in reply to Krusher:
” @AdonisSuperman: @Main_Events @KrusherKovalev Tell your mama Kathy Duva to stop crying and to call @yvonmichelGYM and @AlHaymon to make the fight happen! BUM “

Posted March 30, 2014 6:11 am 


Dan D

Sorry but Hopkins would get slaughtered by this guy. Kovalev is the man right now.

Posted March 30, 2014 5:49 am 


matthews

Man imagine if Hopkins wins his upcoming bout, goes on to beat Stevenson, and then beats the krusher all around the age of 50. Where would he rank then all time and current.

Posted March 30, 2014 4:40 am 


huckster

good

Posted March 30, 2014 4:15 am 


TARK

Stevenson is a piece of dung all right… I liked the way Kovalev dismissed the coward — who will not even open negotiations to fight Kovalev.

More world champions should be that frank about logical opponents who refuse to fight… Guys who will fight anyone else but their most logical opponent, and duck them for years and years.

Roy Jones should also not dismiss Stevenson’s reluctance to fight as easily as he did, “If Stevenson won’t fight Kovalev he should fight Pascal.” … And if Pascal won’t fight???

Jones ducked Antonio Tarver for many years so he knows all about it.

Posted March 30, 2014 3:35 am 


Torgo

Sergei likes ribs.

Posted March 30, 2014 3:02 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Agnew is good boy.

Posted March 30, 2014 2:50 am 



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