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Zambezi

From a medical standpoint, dehydrating yourself as a means to lose weight, and to then rehydrate the day before an athletic event that requires superior stamina and recovery can be deleterious to your heart. I know that it is done a lot in boxing, but depleting sodium levels–which often results in potassium depletion as well–and to then wear yourself out the next day after rehydrating…………….you can can experience serious cardiac arrhythmia which can progress to cardiac arrest. Chavez looked like someone without a pulse or blood pressure during the weigh in.

Posted September 15, 2012 8:55 pm 


Kent

Good point by the writer, Chavez didn’t look too good,too thin and needs to fight at a higher weight! Martinez will have his way tonight.

Posted September 15, 2012 7:31 pm 


Charlie

Can you look like a human skelton and enter the ring naturally 30 Hours later like the ‘Incredible Hulk’?? Who is kidding who?? When is the media and boxing authorities going to ask the hard questions and do the proper testing?? Oh, I forgot it is not about sport and competition, it is about making money.

Posted September 15, 2012 6:39 pm 


The Best!

Agree with you 100%

Posted September 15, 2012 1:36 pm 


Bayamon, Puerto Rico

He looks emaciated and too thin,almost skeletal like he has a disease or is starving to death.His frame looks wasted.This is turning into a Mexican soap opera called,” Simplemente Julio.”

Posted September 15, 2012 11:27 am 


The Prince

Martinez will win and then people will be talking about a Ward and Martinez fight at a catch-weight to determined who the new number 1 P4P will be.

Posted September 15, 2012 10:57 am 


Delgado

Drained or not drained,Chavez Jr. is going to lose to Martinez .

Posted September 15, 2012 10:57 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

“Brawndo: It’s Got What Plants Crave. It’s Got Electrolytes!” And Chavez Jr. better get some before tonight’s fight!

Posted September 15, 2012 10:48 am 


flydog

Excellent post TJ! Well thought out and written, unlike a lot of the crap I read on here, including some of the authors!! Jnr looks malnourished and depleted and 24hrs won’t be long enough to fully recover. Also. from what I saw on 24/7 Jnr doesn’t seem to want to train too hard. Put those nuggets together with the fact that I’ve never seen Martinez look so ‘up’ for a fight and I think Jnr is in for a long, difficult night. He’s never even been near someone with the skills and experience that Martinez will bring and brute strength will only get him so far. Martinez doesn’t need to KO Jnr, he can still score and do damage. I’m expecting to see Martinez dominate!

Posted September 15, 2012 8:46 am 


WTF?

Boxing needs to get back to same day Pre fight Weighins to chase all these cheaters out of divisions where they’re trying to fight much naturally smaller opponents… Chicken Jr. needs to be fighting guys his true size.. this was also done by Paul Williams, Cintron, MargaCheato, Hopkins, etc etc etc… all much bigger guys trying to land fights with the smaller guys like Cotto, Paquiao, Mayweather… DLH and Tito for Hopkins.. Go back to same Day Pre-fight Weighins and Boxing will to a long way towards cleaning itself up… Mandatory Random Drug Blood testing is also a must…

Posted September 15, 2012 8:39 am 


Gr33nFather

I hope Chavez destroys this douchbag Martinez…

Posted September 15, 2012 7:58 am 


TJ

YEAH, we’d all like to take the supplements he’s on!

BUT, seriously, if Jnr. carries on trying to make weight like he has been the last few years he will be on the path to serious health issues in later life.

This is EXTREME yo-yo dieting/ crash-dieting and not only does put pressure on and fool the body, but it puts extreme pressure on the internal organs of which the brain is one, along with the kidneys, liver and even the heart.

When 24 hour weigh-in limits were erroneously introduced, it was done to give boxers an additional time to rehydrate as it was thought to be a major factor in boxers suffering brain injuries late in fights, as there is a link between being dehydrated and loss of signal function to the brain and other internal organs!

UNFORTUNATELY, this has been unscrupulously hijacked by boxers to all intents and purposes cheating the system by having that extra day and a half instead of 12 hours or less to rehydrate back from a dangerous weight to basically come into the ring 2,3 or even 4 divisions above their fighting weight and gaining a real advantage over their opponent.

BUT, just like the use of PEDS, EPOS and ways to beat the system, I firmly believe that in the end these boxers will ultimately hurt themselves and fall victim to ruined health in later life.

You can fool the boxing authorities, you can fool the fans, HECK, you can even fool yourself, but you can’t fool your own body.

If he’s cheating, then I hope he’s caught, if he is crashing then, he will be caught by his own body and suffer the consequences.

Onto the fight…. I’ve been watching Jnr. on the undercards of Margarito bills etc. since 2002 when he was a working his way through the weight divisions and didn’t really register him on my radar.
Then, watching him take on the likes of Vaden, whatever, in life-or-death struggles I thought he had peaked as a journeyman, but knew Arum would push him to a title shot.

IMHO he was outlanded by Rubio, he looked okay vs. Manfredo Jnr, finishing him well and did as expected vs Andy Lee [who boxes out of my favourite gym Kronk, but is not good enough]…

I personally think just like Amir Khan and Nathan Cleverly he takes too many flush shots to the head for my liking.
I can’t believe he hasn’t learned the art of rolling with punches, parrying. catching or basic defence – We don’t need too many Bobby Czyz’s or Bobby Chacons anymore in the ring!!!!

Jnr will try and walk Maravilla down in the early rounds, but Maravilla will box from the outside. Jnr will have his best rounds in the middle portion of the fight where he will change up his strategy and employ a better jab and may even box on his toes, like he did Manfredo, but by the 8th he will be back to hunting Maravilla, who I believe will still be able to land that jab and will introduce his corkscrew left cross more and more into the battle.

I think Jnr will last the distance and the bout will be close, only because of the pressure Jnr appears to be putting Maravilla under, but the punch stats landed will clearly show the Argentinian in control.

As Bob Arum is involved in this I wouldn’t put it out of the question that we get a very, very dodgy decision!

All I will say is that this fight will be talked about way more than the Canelo Alvarez vs Josesito Lopez bout – but hopefully for all the right reasons…..

MATCHUP: A
SIGNIFICANCE:A
PERFORMANCE:???
OUTCOME:A??

If Jnr loses a close one, I see a rematch in the offing!

Posted September 15, 2012 5:44 am 


KOrnerman

This ability Chavez has to rejuvenate is a skill in itself, he looks like crap now but I bet come fight time he is back to being the Hulk.

Posted September 15, 2012 4:43 am 


KOrnerman

No care bro.no one wants to see the Great Marquez robbed again from that wee Pedhead.

Posted September 15, 2012 4:41 am 


KOrnerman

How the hell can he stay near fighting weight when he naturally weighs around 180,impossible he would kill himself if he kept that up.

Posted September 15, 2012 4:39 am 


KOrnerman

Ive seen better looking Crackheads.

Posted September 15, 2012 4:37 am 


LAREDOART

If you pay attention even Sergio was drinking shakes, thats what fighters do. JR will be alright, and I just hope for a war and a great fight, we need great fights.

Posted September 15, 2012 4:01 am 


Ghetto Thug

punkcquiao marquez 4 has been signed, anybody cares??

Posted September 15, 2012 3:51 am 


LAREDOART

Finally, at least somebody who knows a good deal about boxing and about using your size to your advantage. Im Mexican so there for I will always be with the Mexican fighters cheaters or not, is not like Petterson, Berto(american boxers, for those who dont know), and back in the day Mosley didnt cheat, so there it is. Anyways, I hope tomorrow night is a hell of a fight and one of those fights that we can remember, we need a great fight for the good of the sport, then they can have a rematch and go at it again, we need a great fight, thats what Im hoping for. Cheaters or Not, LOL…

Posted September 15, 2012 3:50 am 


LAREDOART

He was actually heavier by 1 pound. But tomorrow will be a diferent story.

Posted September 15, 2012 3:36 am 


Olly Olly Oxin free

Chavez looked like a complete zombie. He was sucking down protein shakes during the post weigh-in interviews. This is a ridiculus regimen and is a sign of a lack of discipline. He would not need to do this if he would stay near fighting weight between fights. All this will catch up with him tomorrow. Sad.

Posted September 15, 2012 2:14 am 


WHAT!?!

Martinez looks very very strong.

Posted September 15, 2012 1:42 am 


Theunderdog

Don’t pay attention to the weight in, Chavez has been doing this for some time. Weight shouldn’t be an issue as long as jr does it legally he is not breaking any rule. Some people think Chavez has size and age advantages, he doesn’t. When you are younger you are supposed to be faster, have more stamina and better reflexes than the older guy and the heavier you are the slower and less mobile you are. Martinez has all the advantages, speed, skills, defense, offense, stamina and boxing IQ.

Posted September 15, 2012 1:40 am 


MAxypants

Rip Chavez jr from Mexico

Posted September 15, 2012 1:39 am 


Ray Ray

Martinez in 7…2 busy and moves 2 well, he will wear jr down

Posted September 15, 2012 1:07 am 


Joseph Herron

I won’t criticize any writer on ESB, but the site does lose credibility if the content is overtly slanted one way or the other. There should be more attention to hard journalism. The author should merely pose his thoughts as questions intended to make the reader think about the possiblities…not just ram his agenda down the throats of the ESB faithful.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:27 am 


te tumbo

i just caught the weigh-in video and, eh(?). Jr. had that pale, boiled-down look but i’ve seen worse. Jr. by KO due to heavy and unrelenting pressure. Martinez will fold, i just Know it.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:26 am 


te tumbo

Josesito would eclipse Martinez or Pacquiao* on any “official” P4P list if he defeats Canelo tomorrow night. that Would be justice. however, i can already read the posts diminishing Lopez’s accomplishment for defeating the overrated Alvarez and head-case Ortiz . . . justice strikes out again.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:12 am 


the chad

Is ESB boxing coverage and news or criticizing boxers?? Pure garbage I hope Chavez wins so this bafoon who ever wrote this can maybe help himself to a science book.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:10 am 


the chad

L

Posted September 15, 2012 12:06 am 


Caballo

“Continue to take losses…” What are you talking about. There are no losses on his record! For Cripes Sake, let them fight first!

Posted September 15, 2012 12:05 am 


te tumbo

i won’t feel sorry for Jr. if he stumbles in to his own execution. he will actually be fortunate to have a lot of people to share the blame with eSpecially his jefito but that’s why we have the actual Fights. to remove all doubt. enough of the gloom-and-doom. i’m sticking with Jr. by KO, Any round, for the even Bigger upset of the year. IF Jr. is still challenging, pressuring, and scoring in the late rounds, Martinez wilts and folds. that’s always been the fight-plan. heavy and unrelenting pressure to bust Sergio’s pipes, gut, and heart. if we’re lucky, we’ll have another Margarito v. Cotto on our hands and wouldn’t that be a treat. unfortunately, both fighters absorb career-ending punishment but that’s what we pay for.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:04 am 


swamp gas

weight draining and rehydrating are bad as a regular practice. martinez is likely to
soften up the already damaged goods. look for an early ko by the argentinian. but boxing
has surprises too. that’s why fans are so interested in this big fight and willing to plunk
down their money.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:03 am 


Javielito

It is a given that Cjavez will lose tomorrow night, but what a delight it would be if that other hype job, pampered, over rated fraud Canelo lost tomorrow? That would be wonderful for boxing. I can only hope that justice finally prevails.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:03 am 


Dave

Some great well thought of posts on this one. I agree that we must remember some fighters are different when it comes to rehydrating as compared to others. Even still, sometimes a fighter can do it for a while and suddenly can no longer so it well. One things for sure, this time Julio started draining earlier whtn he usually does and it looks to have eatin into some of his muslce. He did look gaunt when I saw it. But he will look a lot different come fight time. Either way, we also know that fighters who drain so much have problems wuth swelling and cramps etc. I can’t wait to see all these details play out.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:02 am 


JoeKidd

Doesn’t continue to take losses by being weight drained????? How many losses are we talking about? He looked like crap but I don’t recall any losses recorded against this strategy yet. Stay with the facts mate.

Posted September 15, 2012 12:00 am 


Boxtradamus

Well get the F out and STAY out. Ur an AMATEUR level poster anyway. I’d ban u for not recognizing GREATNESS when you SEE it.

Posted September 14, 2012 11:57 pm 


te tumbo

weight-drain can only be judged on a fight-by-fight basis. there was a time when Morales appeared strong and healthy at 130lbs before appearing emaciated for his rubbermatch v. Pacquiao*. who would’ve thought DLH would’ve experienced the same diifficulty making 147lbs. his optimal fighting-weight(?!). Cotto ALmost fought one fight too many at 140lbs. Jr. might’ve crossed his own personal 160lb-threshold to face Martinez but he Still pulled the trigger on the matchup and he can’t back-out now, or Else. Jr. may have to absorb some career-ending punishment but it’s his bed. however, this “youth” thing may actually kick-in and he’s good-to-go by tomorrow night. we’ll see. we’re Gonna see, por las buenas o por las malas. we’re gonna See.

Posted September 14, 2012 11:55 pm 


Javielito

Chavez Jr. has only two things going for him in this fight. Size and PEDS and size looks like it just left the building. I can’t help but chuckle at some of the predictions of the so-called boxing experts on this site and how fanatical they are in the defense of a certain fighter, even in the face of everything that points to the contrary. Chavez Jr’s luck just ran out and he is about to run into a buzz saw tomorrow. Martinez is going to punish this kid. Even Chavez’s haters will feel sorry for the kid tomorrow night.

Posted September 14, 2012 11:46 pm 


Bill Patrice Jones

Expect this to end early in Martinez’ favour. Chavez Jr is a powerful puncher, and he is a naturally aggressive character. He has improved alot over the last 7 or so fights, but he isn’t going to be the man to stop Martinez’ dominance. Everyone is in agreement that Sergio is the TRUE legitimate threat to Mayweather’s unbeaten record. I mean what he’s done in his career is astounding. To outhustle and outpoint the monstrously sized middleweight Pavlik was a VERY big achievment. He went to war with Paul Williams, and then flattened him in the rematch. I think if Chavez is weight drained, which isn’t a certainty, then he will come out firing in the first round hoping to hurt Martinez, it will be very exciting and Chavez will probably be rocked in return. I then see a frustrated, angry and hurt Chavez coming out strongly in the 2nd and being knocked out. I could be wrong, but I just don’t see Martinez losing to Chavez. Having said that Chavez junior IS a much better fighter than Sergio is giving him credit for.

Posted September 14, 2012 11:31 pm 


KenM

Think the writer is reading too much into this..
Chavez is young, and has immense amounts of money & expertise in his team.
He will be rehydrated carefully & professionally, and he will come in fit & ready a little over 180, maybe as high as 185.

While I think it will still have an effect on him, it’s something he’s prepared for, & for the most part the only major drawback will be in his ability to throw a large volume of punches over a sustained period of time – but this is made up for by his sheer size. This is the trade-off, & is obviously one the Chavez team are happy with. He has made his career on the basis of the fact that he’s really, really big at middleweight – that’s his advantage relative to other fighters in the division, & that’s what he bases his style off of.

If you watch the fights with Lee or with Sebastian Zbik, he didn’t actually throw that many punches – just applied pressure through his size before throwing big shots to the body & head in spurts, looking to break his opponent down & trap them on the ropes.

Whether he can carry that off against Martinez I am pretty doubtful as is many other commentators, but I don’t think that weight is going to be an issue relative to his other fights.

PS. Erik Morales used to look worse in many weigh-in’s, & it didn’t effect his performances until later in his career.

Posted September 14, 2012 11:31 pm 


Nggas aint shts

doesn’t matter how jr looks! I’m looking forward Jr will sleeps cum dump snapper lips Martinez in 12 rounds

Posted September 14, 2012 11:09 pm 


largo

Jr. really looks f0cked up…

Posted September 14, 2012 11:02 pm 


The Best!

Max Kellermen saying that Chavez looked great in comparison to other weigh ins, hat a fricken liar. I was like damn he must of been dead in his previous weigh ins because in this one he looked like dead man walking. He was only 158 which is definitely not good. I dont think he will put on good weight tomorrow, hopefully the fight is not a short one. Lets cross our fingers and hope that at least its a competitive fight.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:50 pm 


HHLondon

FA, Not sure what’s happened but some posts get posted and others do not.#

Sometimes after a post, I see a “comment waiting to be moderated”, or sometimes they go straight up.

New format, teething problems etc.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:40 pm 


Fight Aficionado

I’ve been trying to post the last few days on my other computer and NONE of the posts went live. Did ESB ban me for some inexplicable reason or is it a problem related to the newly structured website? I didn’t post anything offensive — unless a negative critique of certain stories is viewed as “offensive” — so there’s NO reason I should be unable to post. ESB needs to get their GD act together and fix that. I’m not going to post at night and weekends on my girlfriend’s computer to visit at a site that banned me or malfunctions so I can’t participate during the weekdays. Though I’ve enjoyed ESB for a good 7 years, there are many other boxing websites I can visit. ESB — am I banned or not? If I’m banned I’ll GTFO of here I won’t spend my valuable time trying to circumvent it because I’ve got better things to do.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:36 pm 


Tom

cheater will always be a cheater ….!! and Chavez jr. fall in that same list !!!

Posted September 14, 2012 10:13 pm 


STFU?

Problem for Cheato Jr. is that you cannot put on Muscle overnight.. he can add 30+lbs of water to his feminine soft body and it will only add weight nothing else.. Sergio is too good a boxer to let that affect him.. I think the KO may come sooner then I thought.. possibly middle Rounds… for Chicken Jr.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:05 pm 


jimbo

this aint tito trinidad, margarito , or louis resto its chavez jr

Posted September 14, 2012 9:58 pm 


Thank You ESB For Reminding Me That I Am Going Blind –(AKA The Pinoy Pikey)

I apologize, as this this is out of character for me: WTF…STFU already!

Posted September 14, 2012 9:56 pm 


Fighting Words

Chavez Jr made the weight. The way he looked at weight in, I can imagine him going to the ER for dehydration right after the weight in, getting IV fluids with vitamins to restore his energy and fluids, and by fight time tomorrow, he will be close to a cruiser weight. I think he will regain the weight back and he will be ready for fight time. Sergio style of fighting is now impressive at all with his hands so low, unless the fighter is like a robot and just come straight in or let Sergio dictate the pace. It is going to be a good fight.

Posted September 14, 2012 9:40 pm 


koolz

God Chavez has no core! no muscle! no body! no physical anything he looks so skinny and weak! I think one punch will get him!

Posted September 14, 2012 9:39 pm 


royjoneslastfight

CHAVEZ IS GOING TO THE ALL-U-CAN EAT BUFFET TO ADD 20 POUNDS!!! FACT !!! – Drug Failure & Dirty Hand Wraps Coming ! see : Chavez

Posted September 14, 2012 9:31 pm 


fate1ez

you see chavez stomach all sunked in. he is weight drained for sure. chavez will come out hard and fast because he knows in the later rounds he has no chance. martinez needs to jab and work the body to take away any power chavez may have. martinez is going to box circles around this kid.

Posted September 14, 2012 9:26 pm 


olly

ur a comedian aren’t u?

Posted September 14, 2012 9:24 pm 


olly

nice student of the game!!!

Posted September 14, 2012 9:21 pm 


olly

thats why nazim is there tomorrow!!!

Posted September 14, 2012 9:20 pm 


B Red

:mrgreen:

Posted September 14, 2012 9:19 pm 


WTF?

Cheato Jr. is the poster child for same day weighins and Mandatory Random Blood testing… check his wraps too, Daddy may have lend him his old Cement Wraps.. since MargaCheato no longer needs them….

Posted September 14, 2012 9:09 pm 


Anonymous

damn…………………………………………………….

he looks terrible now, but he’ll still probably look ok tomorrow

Posted September 14, 2012 9:00 pm 


WTF?

I smell a major Asswhooopin of Biblical proportions.. After Martinez gets done with Cheato Jr. tomorrow night Cheato Jr. will become a born again Christian like Paquiao….

Posted September 14, 2012 9:00 pm 


1-2

Agreed!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:58 pm 


WTF?

What’s the Vegas odds on Junior skipping town tomorrow night after he gets beat down to avoid drug testing???

Posted September 14, 2012 8:57 pm 


Patrick2

Chavez is going to wish he had a defense and a jab. Martinez is going to take him apart.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:56 pm 


Beaver

Lol, Chavez looks so weight drained that Marrinez actually looks bigger

Posted September 14, 2012 8:52 pm 


Anonymous

im cant wait for Jr to take it to Martinez body, and get that KO in the later rounds!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:50 pm 


StudentOfTheGame

Look at these clowns & there excuses like jr ever had a chance,He took an L when he signed that dotted line.100% or not jr was 100% beat since the beginning.Gotta love hype jobs come tumbling down.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:42 pm 


TGO

martinez isn’t declining. The only fights he got up for were the williams fight & the Dzinzurik fight. The others were gimmies he basically showed up to. U’ll see tomorrow night. This is the one he’s been asking for.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:34 pm 


TGO

Standing on such logic would be simply foolish. Ur attempting to ignore wut ur looking at.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:32 pm 


Tomato Can

Last week I thought, Dawson looked drained at the weigh in. I think Chavez jr. Looks even worse.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:28 pm 


olly

martinez not motivated and still stoppin all of them pretty impressive to me as merchant said the man gets the job done tomorrow he is motivated!!!!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:28 pm 


Tom

lets hope he could last 12 round and move fast enough to catch Sergio with all that weight !!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:28 pm 


olly

this year could be the end for roach first chavez jr then pacman 2 more losses add to the tab and its over ,i like freddy but he got cought up in his bs and is blinded by it!!!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:25 pm 


Tom

@old guy: Martinez was wearing sneakers and Chavez jr. was barefooted at the time they took the pick

Posted September 14, 2012 8:24 pm 


olly

haaaha dumbo dumbo haahaah dumbooo haahaah!!!!excuses just make sure u also write that jr was overrated ur favorite quote dumbo haahaaha!!!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:23 pm 


WTF?

He wouldn’t be at his best?? what do you mean?.. 190lbs??? ROFLMAO.. this turkey is going to get cooked tomorrow by the Argentinian Martinez…

Posted September 14, 2012 8:22 pm 


ThaBruiser

Old Man, Chavez Jr. is 6 foot, Martinez is 5″10, or so I’m told. Granted, they look the same height in the picture, maybe Martinez is still standing on the scale?

Posted September 14, 2012 8:20 pm 


King Leonidas

What the author says about Chavez Jr and his weight is true. I’m not sure about his assessment and prediction though. My hope is that Martinez wins. Chavez Jr.’s performance against a club fighter Matt “The Predator” Vanda was awful in their first fight. In fact, I believe Vanda won. The second Chavez-Vanda, Chavez clearly won. Not that Chavez improved in between fights. It is that Vanda is a never took training seriously and was clearly outboxed out hustled. Chavez Jr. has been “babied” throughout his career. No doubt. His last two outings though, he rose to the occasion and took good blows and came back for more. Then won the fights. He is a different fighter the last few fights. Certainly impressive in my view. My belief is that Martinez will win. TKO or KO? I doubt it.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:20 pm 


WTF?

Chavez looked like a corpse at 158lbs.. at the weighin couldn’t even pose for the crowd.. he looked like a prison camp victim.. funny thing is immediately after the weighin he started chugging down water bottle after water bottle after water bottle or what ever was in those bottles… he couldn’t even talk to Kellerman with drinking that stuff in those bottles.. smells like Dieuretics water weight loss.. hopefully they test this guy real good.. at the weighin Martinez would drop him with a face slap….

Posted September 14, 2012 8:20 pm 


olly

pavlik was 178 there is nothing jr has that martinez hasn’t seen !!!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:19 pm 


old guy

I see Willie Nelson is on the undercard. What is he, like, 73? :lol:

Posted September 14, 2012 8:19 pm 


REM

Jr looks bad kinda lame he wont b at his best which wouldn’t have been enough anyway.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:17 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Chavez Jr don’t look good at the weigh-in but its all good, the kid ain’t scared, he’ll take it like man for better or worse..Jr knows what’s at stake and I expect him to come out fighting regardless of any weight issues or other setbacks..War Chavez Jr!!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:15 pm 


old guy

I thought Chavez would be 4-5 inches taller than Martinez but the photo doesn’t look that way.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:13 pm 


Peej

Martinez has not looked good in his last few fights and I am also sticking with my prediction of a Chavez win by decision or late stoppage. Chavez is always looking weight drained at the weigh in.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:11 pm 


old guy

I’m standing on my earlier prediction that Chavez will bring real problems for Martinez, maybe take the fight. A good bet to take if he is 2-1 underdog. I just see something special in this kid and Martinez’ clock is ticking. Does anyone really think Martinez is looking progressively better in his last 4 fights? I see a little decline. I don’t understand all the hate for Chavez, must have done stuff I don’t know about but everyone else does.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:09 pm 


te tumbo

i was hoping that Jr. would be relying on fighting-fitness rather than youthful strength. oh well. this fight is gonna happen regardless but win or lose, it’s difficult to believe that Jr. will be 100% for this one.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:07 pm 


ThaBruiser

A poster on another thread whose name I don’t recall drew comparisons to De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao when analyzing tomorrows match. He may turn out to be prophetic. If Jr. is a dead man walking tomorrow any hopes of this being a competitive match are going straight out the window. Win, lose, or draw, Jr. was always going to have to go through hell against Martinez, and now even his conditioning is questionable. I’m genuinely shocked by how unhealthy Jr. looks.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:05 pm 


Tom

very armature writing….a writer should be neutral and give facts…. not be a predictor !!! stay to the fact and don’t tell who is going to win or who is going to loose …that for as the readers to decide that !!!

Posted September 14, 2012 8:01 pm 


StudentOfTheGame

So the excuses start,jr fans are very delusional i thought pac/floyd fans were bad.Jr fans take stupid to a whole new level.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:01 pm 


SergioDaLoser

The only boxer here, who is in danger of being totally destroyed, is Martinez. Young Chavez Jr, will knock the hell out of Martinez. I predict Chavez Jr by brutal KO. Even if Marinez say “don’t cry 4 me Argentina.” After they see their boxer. They will … :sad: Chavez Jr Strength and Youth will prevail, and Old Man Martinez will be brutally stopped.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:57 pm 


Boxtradamus

The weight is irrelevant as Ward showed us last week. SKILLS is what’s relevant. Chavez Jr. has already lost due to lack of SKILLS not weight.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:55 pm 


drx

chavez jr and his fans are a shame for boxing. They stand for everything thats wrong with this sport.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:53 pm 


WTF?

For everyone to understand why this cheating should not be allowed.. can you imagine if Chicken Jr. fought Martinez at that weighin??? Martinez WOULD LITERALLY KILL that 160lb Chicken Jr…. KILL him… of course he could not beat Martinez at the true 160lb weight but give the cheater 24 hours and he magically gains 20+lbs coming in as a light Heavyweight..

Posted September 14, 2012 7:52 pm 


Titopa

Agreed! I feel Martinez will win…but damn. He’s acting as though Chavez has already lost.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:50 pm 


WTF?

Dieuretics anyone???? everyone knows Junior used something to drop that much weight in a day… Hopefully the cheating weasel isn’t able to pack on 20+lbs of Weight overnight….

Posted September 14, 2012 7:49 pm 


Titopa

I don’t like how the author is ALREADY saying “I just hope for his sake he learns his lesson from this loss”….??? Really?? Damn. Give the kid a break.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:46 pm 


Titopa

Chavez couldn’t do that to Rubio, Zbik OR string bean Lee….he won’t do it that quick against Martinez (if at all), and coming in at 158lbs he might wanna HURRY UP!

Posted September 14, 2012 7:43 pm 


Titopa

I must say. I am concerned as well…as a fan, I wanted BOTH to come in looking fantastic. But 158lbs? That’s a stretch for someone who’s been BARELY making 160, sounds like he over trained a bit, I hope not, I wanna see a good scrap.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:42 pm 


SergioDaLoser

He made the weight, and will still get paid. as long as he didnt suffer brain damage, He will knock the hell out of martinez. I predict chavez will knock out martinez, in the 5th or 6th round. He still have to punish martinez for his big mouth. Otherwise, he will knock him out on the first round.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:40 pm 


te tumbo

well(?), this isn’t good. shades of Morales v. Pacquiao III at 130lbs or Cotto v. Torres at 140lbs. Morales couldn’t even complete five rounds and Cotto barely survived a close call to finally prevail v. Torres. my confidence in a Jr. upset has dipped a notch BUT that’s why they have the actual fights . . . “Let’s Get It On(?)”

Posted September 14, 2012 7:35 pm 



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Chavez Jr. looks BADLY weight drained at weigh-in; Sergio Martinez looks great









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