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B Red

Marquez is the overall better fighter and should win a close Ud

Posted June 22, 2013 7:32 pm 


This will be a good fight.

Posted June 22, 2013 10:42 am 

It’s Me, Ernie

The Siberian kid pushed him to the limit, the great JMM will show him how it’s done…

Posted June 22, 2013 12:28 am 

te tumbo

“. . . your either born with punching power or your not”, which is why Marquez has been known as “Dinamita” his entire career. all he’s done is maximize his potential to continue being at welterish what he’s always been: Explosive. with excellent form and fighting instincts. Marquez takes risks and reaps the benefits or pays the tax. Btw, the ref made an error in the first round of their first fight by not deducting a point from Pacquiao* for hitting Marquez while he was clearly down and trying to get up. besides, Pacquiao* didn’t win 5/12 in that fight, which makes the scoring error moot. unofficially, i believe the first three were won by Marquez. the fourth, “answered all the questions and removed all doubts”. the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is Greater. Viva Marquez!

Posted June 22, 2013 12:02 am 


Timmy wont finish this fight on his feet …..

Posted June 21, 2013 11:03 pm 


I think Marquez stops him late

Posted June 21, 2013 6:45 pm 

Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Predicion: “Billy Goat” Bradley will win via robbery on the cards — just he like did against PacMan.

Posted June 21, 2013 6:35 pm 


Tim will be testing too, so what’s the problem? Funny how things have changed.

Posted June 21, 2013 5:02 pm 


So you consider 40 mil a small flat fee? Look I have said many times I thought Pac won the first 2 fights but Marquez definitely won the 3rd and he ended all the talk with a KO in the 4th. Marquez has taken a lot of damage and in every Marquez fight he got rocked a couple of times. So it was only a matter of time before he actually got KO’d. Escpecially since they kept going up in weight.

Posted June 21, 2013 4:54 pm 


” The truth will come out one day.” does that include Pac as well?

Posted June 21, 2013 4:52 pm 


Papo lets not be coy here its about drawing power not winners and losers. And theres a saying your either born with punching power or your not. Cant become Iron Mike by lifting weights my friend.

Posted June 21, 2013 3:43 pm 


Peej lol why do you put me through this Pac took advances on his 25mil. guaranteed purse for Bradley that’s why he cleared so little at the end but still was 30mil richer. And you know there was an official mistake on the cards for the 1st Pac Marquez fight. A lil advice if there’s ever an event that can only break records with your participation do not take a small flat fee my friend.

Posted June 21, 2013 3:40 pm 

philly shell

I’d like to see this one, but no way is it PPV worthy. No way they get my $$. HBO usually replays the fights for free a week later anyway. Bradley by SD or UD.

Posted June 21, 2013 2:24 pm 


Marquez sure has a big forehead, and it keeps growing. This fight has no PPV value, but it should be an interesting fight. The winner depends on if Marquez and Hereida are able to use the same PED mix as he did with Pacquiao or not. He’ 40 years old and getting bigger, stronger and faster? They will be doing better testing I hope because eventually Marquez is going to get busted. No one, and I mean no one that is naturak makes that kind of turn around in their career, especially in boxing. The truth will come out one day.

Posted June 21, 2013 2:07 pm 


Rem, I didn’t know about Pac offering 5 mill to Marquez for a fifth fight. But even though that’s a lot more than Juan could make against any other fighter, it would be about three or four time less than what Pac would make. Pac was the loser last time around and the purse should be split more equally. Then again, that’s just my opinion.

I do agree with Te Tumbo, that “Marquez v. Bradley is an intriguing matchup”. Bradley is young and although he still feels the effect from the many negatives he received after the Pac fight, he still determine. As for Marquez, even though he’s up there when it comes to age, he has the experience and power…not to mention boxing skills…to cause damage.

I understand why many people feel that Marquez used illegal drugs to bulk-up against Pac. But Juan did the right thing by adding muscle while sacrificing some speed. The issue he had against Pac in their previous encounters was his inability to really hurt Pac. Adding more bulk resulted in much more power at the end of his punches. He shook Pac many times throughout their last fight before the devastated ko.

Posted June 21, 2013 1:44 pm 


Rem the first fight was a draw. So it’s 2-1-1

Posted June 21, 2013 1:38 pm 


What’s your point Rem? Floyd offered Pac 40 mil and he turned it down for so called pennies to fight and lose to Bradley

Posted June 21, 2013 1:37 pm 


Te tumbo thanks for correcting me Pac didn’t offer him 2xs what he’s ever made he offered him 4xs. And get real bro Marquez has to headline his own ppv and sell a mil. before asking for a split rotf… And greater ha ha Marquez is still down 3-1 after the bs ko.

Posted June 21, 2013 12:21 pm 


Paquiao is probably going to fight the winner anyway if he beats Rios?

Posted June 21, 2013 11:59 am 

te tumbo

Marquez v. Bradley is an intriguing matchup. i won’t underestimate Bradley’s hunger and remaining prime nor will i overestimate Marquez’s sustained prime thanks to the grueling training regimen prescribed by Heredia. Btw, if Bradley fears or suspects Marquez’s bulk then Marquez is completely within his rights to limit Bradley’s with a rehydration clause. both conditions only enhance the integrity of their matchup. Marquez will test clean and Bradley won’t be accused of making an artificially low weight before weighing-in as a middle for welterweight bout. fact is, i don’t think that has been or will be a problem for Bradley, which makes Marquez’s counter-condition little more than negotiating pushback. neither condition will emerge as a deal-breaker as they would with the delicate, superstitious(?), hyper-sensitive, and Suspect Pacquiao*.

Posted June 21, 2013 11:31 am 


Pretty well said papo. Last paragraph def sums it all up. With the current “drug testing” policy if that’s what they want to call it, its pretty easy to slip around. However without actual proof in either case I tend to throw that out of my argument. Regardless of what my personal belief is. Hidalgo- indeed. Bradley was the winner and loser that night. Got the win but wow did he take some monster shots. Wouldn’t mind seeing provodnikov again

Posted June 21, 2013 11:29 am 

te tumbo

Punkuiao* once again priced himself out of a rubbermatch v. Marquez by trying to dictate the purse-split to the WINNER. $13 million(?!?) after Punkuiao* makes $30 mill to Marquez’s $3 mill in their last fight?!? this doesn’t sound like somebody eager to step into the ring once again v. the guy who put their lights completely out. simply flipping the purse-split to favor Marquez would’ve been evidence of Punkuiao’s* eagerness to face Marquez again but he’s NOT eager to face Marquez once again and his fanboys should blame him NOT Marquez for that situation. besides, isn’t it Team Punkuiao* whose always set-up every one of their previous bouts v. Marquez by insisting that it would be the last? the KO win to “answer all questions and remove all doubt”? well that goal was accomplished . . . by Marquez . . . the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is Greater. Viva Marquez!

Posted June 21, 2013 11:23 am 


Yeah cool fight!

Posted June 21, 2013 11:19 am 


Hidalgo the article said Arum assured Bradley there wouldn’t be a rehydration clause.

Posted June 21, 2013 11:12 am 


Peej no Marquez shouldn’t have won the 3rd he was getting tattooed all fight as the damage on his face indicated. Marquez oked testing because of Heredias confidence he could beat testing Pac will most likely be fighting a juiced up Rios also its ok though evens up the odds a bit.

Posted June 21, 2013 11:10 am 


I hope Timothy stands his ground and says no testing per the contract, no fight. And no rehydration limit either.

Posted June 21, 2013 10:48 am 


And considering the power peds gave Marquez Pac mostly tkoing guys says he was clean. If Pac was on peds he with his natural power he would’ve knocked Oscar, Cotto and Mosley out cold.

Posted June 21, 2013 10:48 am 


“Anyone see the LA Times article where Bradley asked for testing so Marquez wants a rehydration clause in return ha ha.” I read it, Rem. Marquez trying to cripple Bradley if he has to submit to random testing? Doesn’t sound right to me. Of course Juan claims that he’s clean and will be more than happy to do the testing, but with a weight stipulation? If Marquez is as clean as he claims, he wouldn’t be asking for rehydration limits. After all, what does one have to do with the other? Tim will be testing too, so what’s the problem? Of course Arum has to stick his nose into the mix and bring the NSAC into the picture to “oversee” the drug testing. Arum thinks he can talk Bradley into accepting that. It all sounds fishy to me. I don’t think the NSAC will be as thorough as VADA or USADA testing. Arum knows something or he wouldn’t be trying to alter the original contract. After all, this guy manipulates everyone and everything that he can.

Posted June 21, 2013 10:48 am 


Papo Pac offered Marquez 13mil. for a 5th fight 2xs what he’s ever made but Marquez turned it down to fight Bradley for pennies.

Posted June 21, 2013 10:43 am 


Actually he should of loss on the third fight against Marquez, that was clear cut but they gave it to Pac to try and keep the Floyd fight alive. And even though I though he beat Bradley, he lost because he was only fight a minute to 30 seconds a round and wasn’t really landing a lot of punches. And then of course getting KOd by Marquez in the 4tg fight. Oh and Marquez passed all drug test that where required. He even offered to do the random test but of course Pac declined it

Posted June 21, 2013 10:23 am 


“I think bradely left a little something in that ring in his last bout. Guess we will see” Yeah, Bradley beat Provodnikov but he took a walloping in the process.

Posted June 21, 2013 10:12 am 


I must agree with mayweather86, what Hecdog wrote doesn’t make sense. I agree Pac didn’t have to give Juan any rematches, but the reason the rematches came about had nothing to do with Pac being a “classy type of guy”…it was all about money. Everyone that knows boxing can recognize that all their previous matchups were closed fights and there were also controversial. I remembered very well before their last encountered when Freddy Roach stated they took the rematch to KO Marquez and put the controversial decision comments to rest.

As for Marquez not giving Pac a rematch, I don’t recall Pac or Roach asking for one. They could’ve pushed for a rematch if they really wanted it that bad, but they didn’t. I had nothing to with Marquez being afraid to fight Pac. If that was the case, then Pac was afraid of Marquez when he waited four years to give him a rematch after their first fight.

The one thing I agree on is about the possibilities that peds were involved during Marquez’ training camp on that last fight. But if Marquez suddenly developed that power by the use of peds, then there’s no doubt that Pac won most of his fight thank to peds. To believe that one guy did use peds while the other is cleaned is ridiculous. Where there’s money, there’s greed and where there’s greed, there’s always the attempt to cheat the system. Boxing drug testing is too simple to evade…that’s the way it was designed.

Posted June 21, 2013 10:10 am 


Anyone see the LA Times article where Bradley asked for testing so Marquez wants a rehydration clause in return ha ha. What is Bradleys size a problem without the juice. Pac does not have a legit loss since Morales.

Posted June 21, 2013 10:06 am 


Hecdog- you seriously write some of the dumbest s*** I’ve ever laid eyes on. What is your iq man like a 80-85? U make my brain hurt trying to figure out how you come to these conclusions. Yes manny is an ATG and future hof all day. That’s about the only thing you say that makes any sense. You need to come to grips with reality. He got KTFO, it happens. It’s a part of boxing. Stop trying to make excuses that you cannot VALIDATE. Man up………anyways back to this fight. I’m taking marquez by ud. I think bradely left a little something in that ring in his last bout. Guess we will see

Posted June 21, 2013 9:14 am 


All I have to say is what a fight

Posted June 21, 2013 9:07 am 


Whew.. October is a long way off, this years going by fast though.

Posted June 21, 2013 7:45 am 


Marquez is 40 which is a scary number in boxing, he’s a better boxer than Bradley and a crisper puncher.. Tims gonna be strong and young this is an intriguing matchup but I think Marquez should be able to improve on Provodnikov and get a win..

Posted June 21, 2013 7:28 am 


Bradley did not look like the same fighter to me in his last bout. he lost his mental edge or something after his gift decision against Paquiao. Marquez may have a harder time motivating himself for this bout after his huge win against Manny ? if Marquez is properly motivated I think he beats Bradley.

Posted June 21, 2013 6:57 am 


RUMBLE.. This will be .Though i cant see Timmy being able to keep JMM off him other tham to RUN and that just isn’t in his blood .
JMM will cut Timmy off the only other option for Timmy , is to WRESTLE with JMM tie him up and make JMM fight from the trenches ….Other than that its JMM all night ……

Posted June 21, 2013 2:33 am 


JMMarquez have fought in four or five different divisions, won a prime Manny Pacquiao 2004 and koed a no prime Pacquiao in 2012, memorable fights and victories over barrera, diaz, katsidis, casamayor. A non stop action fighter with unique tecnhique. No run, no hold, no tie, just great combination of punches and great heart. ALL OF YOU ARE ALL RIGHT, this man dont worth a ppv. Only Great and Brave Floyd worths exciting ppv events.

Posted June 21, 2013 12:02 am 


Pay per view? GTFOH

Posted June 21, 2013 12:01 am 


Must of been the same thing that happened with Pac against Bradley. He didn’t juice and could only fight for 30 seconds a round

Posted June 20, 2013 11:44 pm 


If Marquez doesn’t juice i think he’s gonna have good moments but struggle overall with Bradleys athleticism.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:24 pm 


If I’m not mistaken didn’t Bradley want an immediate rematch but Pac said no?

Posted June 20, 2013 9:47 pm 


“Both guys sure ran from Pacquiao even after being offered three times what their making.” That’s news to me.

Posted June 20, 2013 9:43 pm 

The Mad Scientist

These two are already bickering about drug testing and rehydration clause..let the games begin!

Posted June 20, 2013 9:17 pm 

te tumbo

Me first Titopa !!!

Posted June 20, 2013 9:13 pm 


Roger me darling !!

Posted June 20, 2013 9:12 pm 


@hecdog- both guys wanted pac! Both already beat him and pac brings a huge payday! All of these dudes are top rank fighter and we all know bob arum runs boxing! Arum is the hold up and reason why alot of big fights never happen , i.e. pac vs may!

Posted June 20, 2013 9:02 pm 


Y would jmm run from a guy he fought 4 times n imo beat 4 times and ko’ed? Please stop the foolishness!

Posted June 20, 2013 8:58 pm 


So you are saying that PEDs make you punch harder? That is what you are saying correct? If so then there is a reason why Floyd wanted Manny to take the random test. He was KOing bigger guys, so it is possible that Manny was on something. Oh and how ironic is it that when he starts to agree to take the random testing he is all of a sudden no KOing anybody, but infact getting beat by Bradley and getting KOd by Marquez. Things that make you go hmmmmmm. You acuse Marquez of being dirty but say Pac is clean even though he refused to take random drug test. The same random drug test he is taking with Rios. And what’s even more questionable is that Pac didn’t just say no, he said he was scared of needles or he didn’t like taking blood out so close to the fight. Not sure what the other ones where but that also raises questions. Pac was at a point in boxing where he could of simply said no, I take the test required and if you don’t want to fight then fine. But no he came out with excuses. Whats even funnier is that the guys he didn’t look so great against he always had some type of excuse on why he didn’t look great.

Posted June 20, 2013 8:54 pm 


No, no. Juan Manuel Marquez was hysterical and about to jump off every Bridge in the Counrty unless he got a rematch with the legendary Manny Pacquiao. I watched that guy cry, whine and follow Manny all over the world because he felt that he beat Manny. Manny didn’t have to give him any rematches. He won all three, and there was plenty more offers for Manny, but the class guy that Manny is, he gave the cry baby Marquez not one, not two, but 3 more fights and made him famous. Finally, when Marquez and his Ped Guru Hereida got the infamous mix right and landed a half blind and lucky Ped Punch that beat Manny, he turns around and refuses to give Manny a rematch. Now that is what you call a fearful man. Marquez had absolutely no reason not to give Manny an immediate rematch. None whatsoever. That guy wants the most money he can make as all boxers do. He could have made millions, but he didn’t want to take the chance on losing because Freddie and Arum and Manny were going to do very strict testing. That’s the truth. Please give me one realistic reason why Marquez would not grant Manny a rematch in which he was going to make more $ than he had ever made, his fame would possibly become a legend, and he had just knocked out Manny. The answer is, he had no valid reason other than fear. The fear of Manny beating him was too much for Marquez to handle. This my friends IMO is my reason why Marquez wants nothing to do with the legendary Manny Pacquiao. As far as Bradley is concerned, he was basically scared to death.

Posted June 20, 2013 7:46 pm 


Marquez doesn’t run from ANYONE!! If you can say that about Marquez with a straight face, then you’re not a boxing fan. Period. If anyone’s running from Pacquiao, it’s Bradley, he’s the ONLY one who has unfinished business with the Pacman, Marquez has NOTHING left to prove…he did to Pacquiao what Pacquiao had been trying to do to him, with is FINISH HIM!! Point proven.

Posted June 20, 2013 7:08 pm 


FEARS – Yeah, not really worthy of PPV, but Marquez deserves it so….I’ll be watching.

Posted June 20, 2013 7:06 pm 


hecdog – Marquez ran from Pacquiao after STARCHING him?? LOL What did Pacquiao have to offer Marquez other than a fat check? ZERO. Marquez is after that title, had Pacquiao been given the “W” against Bradley, Marquez would be the CHAMP!! So, yeah, he’s after that…not after a guy he just put to sleep.

Posted June 20, 2013 7:03 pm 


Definitely a HBO or Showtime fight, but nevertheless a damn good scrap that I will be watching. Hard to pick a winner in this one.

Posted June 20, 2013 6:28 pm 

Lianna westgate

Jmm to win on points

Posted June 20, 2013 5:29 pm 


Definitely not a PPV event. Both guys sure ran from Pacquiao even after being offered three times what their making. Don’t think many people will pay for this fight. Bad move. This fight should have been put on regular Showtime or ESPN.

Posted June 20, 2013 4:44 pm 


I like this fight but it is not a PPV type of event. Will watch the replay the following week.

Posted June 20, 2013 4:31 pm 


I’ll be going to this fight.

Posted June 20, 2013 3:23 pm 

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