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Posted July 21, 2014 5:01 am 


Arturo gatti remindes me of the terminator he just wont stop

Posted July 10, 2014 2:51 am 


that’s right Arturo gatti will all ways be rememberd

Posted July 9, 2014 10:24 pm 


This man was a TRUE WARRIOR! I didnt particularly appreciate his style – at all, simply because he took TONS of punishment in order to “give” TONS of his own! He changed a bit under Buddy McGirt becoming somewhat of a decent boxer, but relinquished the art when facing Ward in the rematches. I couldnt help but watch ALL his fights due to the fact his warrior spirit carried him through some treacherous killer exchanges, exchanges that made his head shift back & forth like he WAS NOT human! NO ONES brain could take that battering & be normal afterwards – no matter how refreshed he happened to look for his following slugfests!

Each time he came in the ring AFTER one of his suicidal battles – watching him became an EVENT because I couldnt figure out how he’d recuperate to go thru that SAME craziness AGAIN – and CRAZINESS it was each & every time!! This man came to win – it seemed like each & every battle was personal & for the acceptance of the fans – an unbelievable trait they SURELY appreciated. Nevertheless, that style of fight was suicidal – it didnt make for mental health & clarity for the future – not even the near future. Outside the ring, he did seem like a cool genuine energetic friend, a guy that gave life all he had to give, Ward could attest to this after their final battle ended. They became GREAT friends, and for that I salute his passion, dignity & dedication for life.

Posted July 9, 2014 9:40 pm 


Arturo Gatti, the name said it all………………………..
R.I.P …….. legend.

Posted July 9, 2014 8:02 pm 


You didn’t answer any of these questions I asked you. I’d be grateful if you’d give it a go now please.

Gatti’s skills had eroded by the time he fought Baldomir and Gomez but not when he fought Floyd? That’s very convenient.

How many Gatti fights did you say you’ve seen again? I suppose all those beatings he endured and the hellacious amount of damage accumulated before he fought Floyd took nothing out of him?

Roy Jones held a belt when he was knocked out in 2 rounds by Tarver, was he past it or not then?

You still haven’t explained to me why prime Floyd ran from ‘light hitter’ Baldomir all night and why he was booed vociferously by large sections of those in attendance?

What do you mean Ali’s corner pulled him out against Holmes? How is that not the same as what transpired in Gatti vs Floyd?

Did you even watch the fight? It was Gatti’s corner who pulled him out.

What does Gatti losing to Baldomir and Gomez have to do with Ali ‘quitting’ against ATG prime Holmes? The comparison I drew was between Gatti ‘quitting’ against Floyd who was also an ATG and Ali ‘quitting against Holmes.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:32 pm 



‘If Gatti was “better than Floyd in any area” then why is Mayweather the Ring Champ at 154 when he is 37 years old whereas Gatti was a BUST above 140 getting smoked by the likes of Gomez and Baldy?’

What kind of backwards logic is that?

Gatti was shot when he fought Baldomir and Gomez. He was done. Finished. Kaput. Understood?

Why do you keep dwelling on those fights if you’re a fan of his? Boxers you’re genuinely a fan of don’t get that treatment so why does Gatti?

Saying Gatti is better than Floyd in particular areas doesn’t imply he was a better fighter. He outshines Floyd in the power and heart categories but it doesn’t mean he’s a superior fighter than him.

Why are you so loathe to concede that if you’re a fan of his?

Posted July 9, 2014 3:26 pm 


Mongrel, QUITE to the contrary I like Gatti BUT I will not tolerate DOGS trying to knock Floyd Mayweather in lieu of Gatti when Floyd beat him like a Step Child… We are gonna maintain historical accuracy on this board even to the chagrin of some nutless and sentimental posters… Gatti was a terrific action fighter who won’t be forgotten but he is NOT in FMJ’s league in the slightest so its time to stop looking for a way to say that Mayweather needs to be more Gattiesque…Understood?

Posted July 9, 2014 2:33 pm 


Congragulations on making the HOF.

Posted July 9, 2014 2:00 pm 


Arturo was a great warrior but skillwise he was a C- while Floyd is an A+. Fact, watch their fight.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:59 pm 



Posted July 9, 2014 9:53 am 


can you hear the thundeeeeeeeeeeeeer

Posted July 9, 2014 7:05 am 


Arturo gatti is all man this guy all ways fight to the end no matter what that’s why people loved him rip bro

Posted July 9, 2014 5:12 am 


I don’t think there will be another Arturo gatti the man had moive star looks heart balls courage and determition

Posted July 9, 2014 1:19 am 


Arturo gatti is the best I love watching his fights

Posted July 9, 2014 12:32 am 

david d.

sredmond, that last post anonymous was by me to you.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:21 am 


sredmond…no, you’re right! Forgive me for not understanding your illogical and complete ignorance for a sport that I apparently know nothing of. And please, excuse me for attempting to devalue the very best ever, FMJ. I can only take comfort in the fact, that I am not alone in my clouded view of who’s who and what’s what in the sport of boxing. That said, allow me to bow out indignantly, by telling you that you are the epitome of a moron….R.I.P. Gatti

Posted July 9, 2014 12:19 am 


Arturo gatti to me is the best thing that happened to boxing ever since he gone boxing has been dead

Posted July 8, 2014 11:32 pm 

Peanuts Redmond

Oscar De La Hoya was basically savaged by the boxing media for fighting what was even then being called a “past his best Gatti ” and that was five years prior to jr facing Gatti.
Mayweather’s sad fanbois rate it as some kind of major win .

Smoke n mirrors man.

Posted July 8, 2014 10:12 pm 

Peanuts Redmond


Posted July 8, 2014 10:09 pm 

A. Low

Sredmond is mentally slow he cant realize what anyone is saying no one says floyd is a bad boxer and Arturo didnt wish for anyones skill he knew what he had and that satisfied him man shiet. agian early gatti could have and would have ran through eighty percent of fighters today including floyd. late gatti is a whole different story. if gatti had Buddy earlier he would been a top 5 p4p fighter.

Posted July 8, 2014 9:40 pm 


Sredmond.., “Like Roy Jones said “Too much SPEED” HAHAHAHAHA”

Like Antonio Tarver said, “Are you gonna have any excuses tonight Roy?”


Posted July 8, 2014 7:04 pm 



Posted July 8, 2014 6:45 pm 

dick tiger

Te Tumbo–Very well said, my hats of to you.

Posted July 8, 2014 6:08 pm 

Mongrel H@mster

SREDMOND, you have quite a hateful and spiteful soul to spend numerous posts on an article remembering a peoples favourite to basically denigrate him.

Did you sit through the movie 300 interrupting with ruminations on exactly how many Athenians were actually there to help the Spartans?

Or could you actually read between the lines, and see that the narrative was talking about and appreciating something bigger?

Posted July 8, 2014 5:12 pm 


Arturo gatti the life of a party

Posted July 8, 2014 4:13 pm 


David, I am challenging your commonsense are you selling Gatti as the superior technician/fighter? Gatti was ineffective above 140 whereas Mayweather extended his dominance to 154, Gatti had struggles with borderline club fighters like Ward whereas Mayweather outboxes Elite, HOF and World Champion boxers with ease… Do I really need to reference Mayweathers dismantling of the Late Gatti as further proof of whom is better than whom??? Again I love watching Gatti fights but there is no confusing his level with Mayweathers who called him “a club fighter” before they fought and treated him like one during the bout… Gatti was MORE than that in reality and he had guts for days, but he was impotent, overmatched, out of his depth, and 15 steps behind against FMJ…. Are we clear or do you need further instruction?

Posted July 8, 2014 4:09 pm 


Fight Aficianado, SORRY that your totalitarian regime cannot reign supreme but alas that’s not the case.. Your unabated nut slurping will be checked at times, conform or suffer.

Posted July 8, 2014 4:05 pm 

david d.

SREDMOND, I never questioned FMJ’s guts. But I am challenging your boxing knowledge of the topic of styles in question. So, provide at least five boxer/fighters names that had similar styles of both Gatti and FMJ. Neither boxer/fighter is better than the other, that ignorance is reserved for the general sports media and casual boxing fan. That said, it takes an equal amount of courage and respect to climb through those ropes.

Posted July 8, 2014 4:00 pm 


David D are you going to run that OLD tired line? I am a HUGE fan of Gatti and Mayweather of course that said you actually MAKE my point… Calling fighters like Floyd less brave because their skills keep them safe from savage beatings is a dismissal of the guts it takes for fighters to get in the ring… Any discussions of Gatti being “More” than Mayweather who beat his AZZ will be met with stern rebuke.

Posted July 8, 2014 3:48 pm 

david d.

Or better yet, name at least five boxer/fighters from the history of boxing that have had similiar styles as Gatti did…

Posted July 8, 2014 3:37 pm 

david d.

SREDMOND…..have you ever stepped into a boxing ring and put your boxing skills and or fighting heart on the line?

Posted July 8, 2014 3:35 pm 


If Gatti was “better than Floyd in any area” then why is Mayweather the Ring Champ at 154 when he is 37 years old whereas Gatti was a BUST above 140 getting smoked by the likes of Gomez and Baldy? AGAIN we are not talking points losses Gomez almost knocked his lip off…

Posted July 8, 2014 2:47 pm 


Anonymous, Gatti was the Champ at 140 when he fought Floyd Mayweather, correct me if I am wrong? He showed NOTHING that suggested he would have EVER competed, he lost EVERY exchange and landed not a single punch of consequences it was beyond one sided… And his belt was ripped off his waist by a VASTLY superior fighter FACTS!

Posted July 8, 2014 2:46 pm 


te tumbo – ” POST OF THE DAY ”

Gatti embodied all of the attributes traditionally associated with a ring-warrior. tough, resilient, potent, with killer-instinct and indomitable spirit. he disarmed equally tough and resilient opponents with his own brand of ring-ferocity. he was also a generous competitor and great sportsman who could be trusted to earn his wins and losses in a fair and competitive fashion. he’s one of those figures of Boxing that you regret not watching develop into an ambassador of the sport. RIP Arturo Gatti.

Posted July 8, 2014 12:18 am

Posted July 8, 2014 2:31 pm 


Gatti’s skills had eroded by the time he fought Baldomir and Gomez but not when he fought Floyd? That’s very convenient.

How many Gatti fights did you say you’ve seen again? I suppose all those beatings he endured and the hellacious amount of damage accumulated before he fought Floyd took nothing out of him?

Posted July 8, 2014 2:29 pm 


Roy Jones held a belt when he was knocked out in 2 rounds by Tarver, was he past it or not then?

Posted July 8, 2014 2:16 pm 


You still haven’t explained to me why prime Floyd ran from ‘light hitter’ Baldomir all night and why he was booed vociferously by large sections of those in attendance?

Posted July 8, 2014 2:05 pm 


Gatti is or rather was superior to Floyd in certain areas. For one he hit harder and as much as you’re loathed to admit it, he did possess a bigger heart than him too.

No question Floyd is the better more athletic and gifted fighter of the two, but there’s a reason why Gatti is regarded as one of the ring’s greatest warriors of recent times and why he holds a special place in the hearts of so many fans.

You’d be hard pressed to find a fighter with more heart than Gatti. Floyd’s name wouldn’t be anywhere near the top of the list for likely candidates.

Posted July 8, 2014 1:55 pm 


What do you mean Ali’s corner pulled him out against Holmes? How is that not the same as what transpired in Gatti vs Floyd?

Did you even watch the fight? It was Gatti’s corner who pulled him out.

And what does Gatti losing to Baldomir and Gomez have to do with Ali ‘quitting’ against ATG prime Holmes? The comparison I drew was between Gatti ‘quitting’ against Floyd who was also an ATG and Ali ‘quitting against Holmes.

Posted July 8, 2014 1:42 pm 

david d.

SREDMOND, you are a modern day boxing fan, who knows nothing about the true science and art of boxing. The history of boxing’s many greats, of all styles, is filled with fighters and boxers. Gatti was an all around skilled fighter/boxer. And he fought, as many do, past his competitive prime years…and yes, it was during that time that FMJ beat him.

Posted July 8, 2014 1:12 pm 


No the point is that Gatti was too inept at that point to defeat Baldy, and he was stopped which was SAD because Baldy is not a big puncher…Mayweather simply boxed Baldy mindless spotting him 9 pounds as I recall and moved on with life… Gatti got smashed it was Pathetic!

Posted July 8, 2014 12:26 pm 


The story is EVERYONE including Canelo is “past it” when they fight Floyd… Gatti was the guy with the strap, he did not offer a moments competition on the best day of life Gatti would have suffered the SAME beating against Mayweather who was coming up in weight and beat him senseless in front of his fans. Again if you are gonna say that Gatti has more “heart” than Floyd then it should have served him better when he was mastered, and plastered by a FAR superior athlete…

Posted July 8, 2014 12:23 pm 


Ali’s corner took him outta the ring against Holmes who is an ATG HW who was in his prime.. Ali was not getting knocked out by guys like Alfonso Gomez or Baldomir even as an OLD man… Again I respect the hell out of Gatti but he is not superior to fighters like Mayweather in ANYWAY absent the willingness to get his head bashed in.

Posted July 8, 2014 12:19 pm 


Ali quit against Holmes, I guess he didn’t have a big heart either.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:20 am 


Gatti was past it when he fought Floyd. I guess it’s fair to say Roy Jones got knocked cold for 5 minutes by Glencoffe Johnson while he was still in his prime then?

Posted July 8, 2014 11:19 am 


The point is Gatti never ran from Baldomir. Anyone can run away. That doesn’t take great skill. But running wasn’t a word in Gatti’s vocabulary. Why did prime Floyd run from a light hitter? Why did the crowd boo him loudly?

Posted July 8, 2014 11:16 am 


Anon, I don’t think that Gatti “took his beating like a man” I think he took his beating from Baldomir because he could NOT do any better.. Floyd Mayweather would not stand there and let a fighter like Baldomir take free swings at his chin… That beating was not an indicator of Gatti’s heart it was an indicator that his skills were eroded against a BEATABLE fighter…I like Gatti but getting BEATDOWN does not make you a more gutty guy, sometimes it means you are INEPT… And where was the famed Gatti heart when he had to retire on his stool against Mayweather in 6 rounds… Like Roy Jones said “Too much SPEED” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted July 8, 2014 11:09 am 


Saturn, I don’t see how Chuvalo and Louis belong in the same conversation?

Posted July 8, 2014 11:05 am 


You’re being ridiculous. Shot Gatti taking a beating of an opponent prime Floyd outclassed has nothing to do with the point I was making.

Shot Gatti took his licking like a man whereas prime Floyd was so intimidated by Baldomir he had to get on his bicycle for 12 rounds and was greeted by a chorus boos from those in attendance for his troubles.

Who showed more heart there? Shot Gatti or prime Floyd who did the road runner for 12 rounds from a ‘light hitter’?

Posted July 8, 2014 11:05 am 


sredmond i asked you a question. i don’t know what rules people play by where you come from but where i come from it’s considered polite to respond with an answer.

Posted July 8, 2014 10:41 am 


Gatti getting a BEATING from Baldomir and Floyd outclassing Baldomir represent scenarios where trying to give Gatti MORE credit for getting knocked out by a light hitter like Baldy, makes you look ridiculous…

Posted July 8, 2014 10:37 am 


Saturn who was the greater fighter? George Chuvalo or Joe Louis?

Posted July 8, 2014 10:35 am 


Shot Gatti never ran from Carlos Baldomir like prime Floyd did. Floyd was scared out of his wits of Baldomir. He did the road runner for 12 rounds.

Posted July 8, 2014 10:17 am 


sredmond who had the better chin out of george chuvalo and joe louis?

Posted July 8, 2014 9:54 am 


A Low, its WEAK and simply BS to say that “Ali, Pacquiao and Mayweather wish they had Gatti’s heart” I think a more realistic statement is that “Gatti wished he had their skills” ALL top fighters have “heart” Between Manny, Floyd and Ali the must have over 60 World Championship fights between them, hundreds of amateur fights and sparred THOUSANDS of rounds to position Gatti as having a superior “Heart” is sentimental, touching and politically correct but its an unfair characterization of boxers who are ALL courageous and have shown it… Gatti’s propensity for taking monster beatings allowed him to showcase his toughness and never say die attitude but movies aside the best fighters in the sport are NOT punching bags, they can take a punch when needed by are not looking to fight on equal terms with lessor opposition… Manny Pacquiao going blow for blow with a Brandon Rios type is a BAD LOOK… AGAIN its best that Gatti be respected and admired for the lane that he occupied..

Posted July 8, 2014 9:46 am 


Adrian, I KNOW that the thread is about Gatti and NOT Mayweather that’s why I am CHECKING fools that are trying to discuss how Gatti was “A warrior the likes of which an FMJ is not” or somehow position Gatti as MORE than a Floyd or Pacquiao… That’s called NOSTALGIA, I loved watching Gatti as much as the next guy that said he cannot be used as the proverbial “stick” against Elite fighters especially those that beat his AZZ pillar to post (ODH, Floyd Mayweather Jr)

Posted July 8, 2014 9:33 am 


ben – you mean he was…..

Posted July 8, 2014 8:30 am 


when ever Arturo gatti fights he likes zero in his opponets and get close

Posted July 8, 2014 6:48 am 


Gatti HOF.

Posted July 8, 2014 6:17 am 


Arturo gatti is the ultiment blood and guts warrior

Posted July 8, 2014 6:16 am 


@Hmmmm There was more to Gatti’s career than just the Ward fights!! There are people in the Canastota HOF a lot less deserving than Arturo Gatti, that’s for sure.

Posted July 8, 2014 6:14 am 



Posted July 8, 2014 5:05 am 


I just got done watching gatti ward one what a warrior

Posted July 8, 2014 3:58 am 


I all ways wanted to see gatti vs kostha z or gatti hatton I think both of those fights would have been fight of the year

Posted July 8, 2014 1:02 am 

te tumbo

Gatti embodied all of the attributes traditionally associated with a ring-warrior. tough, resilient, potent, with killer-instinct and indomitable spirit. he disarmed equally tough and resilient opponents with his own brand of ring-ferocity. he was also a generous competitor and great sportsman who could be trusted to earn his wins and losses in a fair and competitive fashion. he’s one of those figures of Boxing that you regret not watching develop into an ambassador of the sport. RIP Arturo Gatti.

Posted July 8, 2014 12:18 am 


Sredmond , this thread was about gatti not mayweather ,I know mayweather is everything for you , you probably think he is a prophet too and I don’t give a crap but please don’t embarrass yourself any further …. Castlio was a brawler but outpointed mayweather on his prime In Their first fight but was stoped by corales in a memorable fight so stop comparing fights because in the end boxing fans remember only the fights that was exiting and not the ones like baldomir vs mayweather or klitchko vs Povetkin

Posted July 7, 2014 11:58 pm 

A. Low

Gatti can not be compared to a floyd a manny a Ali or any of the the number one p4p fighters, But They all wish they had what he had his heart. I would pick the 90’s Gatti over many of these fighters. Mayweather against gatti in the late 90’s He very so could have lost. Gatti’s only credible losses in my opinon are before 2004 after that he was a out dated shadow of him self. There really isnt a argument to this just because the answer would never be known but to think these fighters could have stopped him in his prime so badly is crazy. It took really big fighters after 15 years of punishment to really slow gatti down.

Posted July 7, 2014 11:48 pm 

Fight Aficionado

SREDMOND aka Supreme Court stop dragging Floyd into this thread. This is about Gatti yet as always you try to turn a normal discussion into an argument. GTFO.

Posted July 7, 2014 10:33 pm 


all I want to say is mayweater is a hit and get the hell out type of boxer gatti is hit get hit and hit again if you guys cant fall asleep watch a mayweater fight after three rounds you will fall asleep that’s how boring he is peace out

Posted July 7, 2014 9:13 pm 

The oracle of Delphi

PS: Gatti in his prime would have beaten Maidana by KO, at least that’s what I believe…

Posted July 7, 2014 8:37 pm 

The oracle of Delphi

SREDMOND, just rewatched the Gatti Farud fight. Gatti was TOTALLY shot when he Fraud, and by totally I mean TOTALLY. It was not even funny. Even my grandmother would have beaten him that night…Arturo fought only 3 times after Fraud, losing twice by KO. He was done….and by the way, you brought up Fraud, putting Gatti, so don’t start complaining…I agree, the 2 should not be compared based on their fight. It was a typical fraud Fraud fight, taking on a shot fighter…not saying he would have not beat Gatti, but it would have not been that one-sided and Gatti might have hurt him , maybe, in his prime…

Posted July 7, 2014 8:35 pm 


As for Gatti his triple header with Ward were some of the best brawls I’ve ever seen. But is excitement alone enough to tag him as a great? Not sure. Not a Cannastota resident for me.

Posted July 7, 2014 7:59 pm 


largo thinks sredmond and tark represent the good old days on ESB that just about takes the biscuit.

Haven’t read such a funny post for a looong time. Made me chuckle.

Posted July 7, 2014 7:50 pm 


classic!!! lmao

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Gonzo: Okay, I went and read what you said on that other board and I have to agree with you on this issue. That comment was definitely made by a low-down impersonator who stole my handle. I somehow missed that — probably because the last time I commented on that board I was in a real hurry, so didn’t take the time to read previous posts. I’m also almost certain that it’s SRETARD/Supreme Clown who’s been stirring the pot and these are his reasons:

1) He hates me with passion — just like BEARS — but he more than likely considers me to be his arch enemy and nemesis.
2) He knows from experience that he can’t beat me in a debate/argument, so what better way to attack me than cause fights between me and my allies. (The old divide and conquer strategy.)
3) He’s been carefully reading all my comments for about six years. Although he’s an imbecile when talking boxing and his logic is extremely twisted and skewed, I’ll say that he’s still crafty enough to mimic my writing style well enough at this point to fool most.
4) He clearly has all the time in world on his hands as he’s always on ESB, so I’m sure he’s always thinking of new ways to try and get back at me and discredit my extremely well- known name and impeccable reputation.

So no dude, I don’t have any problem with you whatsoever. Why would I considering that we’ve been on the same side of most ongoing battles and share a common enemy (i.e., The Flomos)? I’ve paid you respect and high compliments in the past and I know you’ve mentioned several times that when it comes to your special ranking system, I’m at the highest level attainable. Take it at face value and believe what you want to, mano, but I’m being straightforward and honest here.

Posted July 6, 2014 4:55 pm

Posted July 7, 2014 6:08 pm 


My first glimpse of Arturo Gatti was his unforgettable title-winning effort against Tracy Harris Patterson in December 1995. Witnessing the guts he showed towards the end instantly made me a fan – eyes closing and taking heavy punishment from a newly re-energised and desperate Patterson in rounds 11 and 12, yet Gatti WOULD NOT clinch the way most fighters would in that situation.

He was a rare fighter: I loved his fan-friendly warrior’s style and mentality, all-action, all-out attack, even when in danger. I was hooked – I definitely wanted to see this guy again. Gatti’s first defence against Wilson Rodriguez in 1996 was a wild and breathtaking see-saw thriller, in my opinion a lot more exciting than the Ruelas fight in 1997 which was in itself pretty special. I remember watching that Wilson Rodriguez fight on VHS video five times in one day.

Both the Ivan Robinson fights in 1998 contained enough fiery exchanges to make any viewer gasp with wonder at Gatti’s capacity to absorb heavy blows and fight his way back from the brink. The Gamache fight in 2000 was a one-sided mismatch with a brutally savage KO in Gatti’s favour. Don’t forget, all these career highlights occurred well before the first Ward fight in 2002.

For sheer watchability, drama, guaranteed action and excitement, Gatti has surely got to be up there above even Aaron Pryor, Matthew Saad Muhammad and Thomas Hearns, no question in my mind. Thanks for the many memories, champ. R.I.P.

Posted July 7, 2014 5:48 pm 

brza da originator

@sredmond u claim to be a manny fan yet u always degrade him to build floyd up . Is floyds 46-0 atg career not enough to prove his worth that u always have to stick the knife into one of the greatest smaller weight fighters of all time who as a 35 yr old 147 # fighter is not the same dynamo he was comin up the weights but he s still p4p . The guy moved north in search of dollars n I can t hate on a cat for that . Floyds an atg son n U pickin holes in manny not gonna make him greater SMH

Posted July 7, 2014 5:42 pm 

Sorcery At Caesars

SREDMOND, you don’t have to anoint Gatti as a god or the GOAT or anything, but a tad more reverence for a fighter you’re supposedly a fan of wouldn’t go amiss.

To reiterate, a genuine fan of his wouldn’t bring attention to losses he incurred right at the very end of career when he was shot if they were presenting a realistic and truthful appraisal of his talent level and standing in the sport. To be perfectly blunt with you, it doesn’t sound to me like you are a fan of his at all.

Posted July 7, 2014 4:47 pm 


“Honest Competition” you mean one guy outboxing another or selling Manny as better than Floyd because he is willing to run into right hands and get sparked??? AFTER getting drilled like that Pac Man has NOT fought the same in terms of recklessness and tempermant seems he learned a lesson whereas Mayweather already knew that other professionals can lay you out if you get careless.

Posted July 7, 2014 4:44 pm 


Poster Below, I am simply CHECK foolishness ie the notion that Gatti is superior to more skilled pugilists because they did NOT need to be beaten half dead every other fight.. People taking shots at a guy who took Gatti apart in the ring (Mayweather) need to get their heads examined or actually watch the fight… Gatti deserves all the respect in the world for being a soldier that said he does not trump nor diminish guys who fight with their brains..

Posted July 7, 2014 4:42 pm 

The Facts

SREDMOND, it’s not shameful to lose a fight if you lose giving everything you have. Gatti did that. There has to be a winner and loser in sports. You don’t grasp the idea of honest competition. What’s shameful is that you disrespect the man in this debate and you turn all almost all discussions into rancourous negativity…

Posted July 7, 2014 4:39 pm 


I know what mean gatti is willing to go to hell and back to win a fight and I think that’s what makes him great

Posted July 7, 2014 4:38 pm 


“WOW” that was a terrible post, it made no sense and if a guy is the superior man then he will BEAT the other fighter into submission.. NO ONE has done that to Floyd Mayweather, he has never lain motionless with a mouth full of canvas while his opponents stands on the ropes in triumph or celebrates over his corpse… Skill, Heart and Will are what keep this fighter from being part of such a shameful outcome.

Posted July 7, 2014 4:19 pm 


gatti had the mind set of kill or be killed if gatti had it his way all of his fights would be fight to the death and he absouly wont stop ever un till you are dead what a warror

Posted July 7, 2014 4:11 pm 


If u support a coward .. U become one .. As clearly u too are a coward !! Which is why u can relate and take up for them …it’s what ur accustomed to …. Hell , u have done it all of ur life … As u have had the coward trait for some time now !!!…. Real men have a hard time relating to cowards !! If u have never had any stones … Then clearly .. U wouldn’t be able to appreciate men that have them … I know .. U hate those thugs … Right. ??? Lmao.. U should be cops … Helps u to feel like a man … Perhaps as they all do … They then get a chance to see how does it feel to be dominate !!! It feels good to not have to run away … But run towards the opponent …. PAC does that … Floyd um” were still waiting !!

Posted July 7, 2014 3:49 pm 


when gatti hits you you got thunder struk baby

Posted July 7, 2014 3:44 pm 


Sorcery, I do not need to make the guys I respect in the sport “Gods” to give them their due.. Gatti was an exciting fighter but downing Elite fighters because their skills keep them above the beatings absorbed by Gatti is bogus in my book..Again Gatti was a guy who could fill seats, and certainly was more than willing to go out on his shield.

Posted July 7, 2014 3:37 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Everyone outside a few corrupt Brazilian cops ho got bought off knows that stripper had one of her goons kill Gatti.

Posted July 7, 2014 3:25 pm 

Sorcery At Caesars

SREDMOND, I agree that the Gatti-Ali comparisons are absurd, but by the same token I’m a little incredulous and skeptical with regards to your declaration of being a Gatti fan. A true fan would hardly have highlighted his end of career losses against Baldomir and Lopez when he was totally shot. Those fights are hardly indicative or reflective of his overall talent level and ability and should not be held against him.

Posted July 7, 2014 3:22 pm 


“Poster Below” if Gatti’s warrior heart was the defining features then why was he unable to make use of it against the gutless Mayweather and pound him into the ground while hearing the ROAR of his fans in Atlantic City? Mayweather is both WARRIOR and simply a supreme pugilist, when hurt or threatened he takes over (Shane Mosley) he does not offer his skull in lieu of defensive skill and crisp counterpunching…

Posted July 7, 2014 3:10 pm 


No “Poster Below” Gatti sure as HELL does not “put Floyd Mayweather to shame” unless you call the cruel BEATING that Mayweather coming up to 140 for the first time put on him.. I am a Gatti fan like the rest but TRUE to his word Mayweather made him look like CLUB fighter… Floyd was hitting him with the the same right hand 5x in a row before Arturo could respond, the sight of him staggering to his corner before Buddy McGirt pulled him out of the abyss Floyd threw him in was SAD… As for Ali, he was in the ring with guys that had historical cache and he fought at HW his exploits and accomplishments speak for themselves Gatti hung himself while a quivering Ali is still a LEGEND who has his own museum and was only stopped ONCE by an ATG fighter in his prime… Gatti was a lot of fun but WHAT GREAT or former Elite fighter did he beat? “Joey Gamache”

Posted July 7, 2014 2:47 pm 

The Facts

SREDMOND, Arturo Gatti was not ELITE as you put it, but he was a warrior in the ring. He puts Floyd Mayweather to shame in that regard. Floyd is not an exciting boxer to watch …Muhammad Ali was a great fun fighter at a higher level than Gatti and gave us great entertainment. He was a magnificent fighter at his best, but… he got punched in the head and on the jaw too often by limited boxers…Everyone thought it was astonishing when he won the Heavyweight Title back at the age of … just 32. That’s not old. Back in 1974, they thought that was amazing! He wasn’t The Greatest as a boxer, but he WAS a great Showman and Salesman all the same!

Posted July 7, 2014 2:39 pm 


HaHaHa yeah Ali and Gatti are REALLY gonna be remembered in the same regard… Tell me another again you only position Gatti to be critiqued when such foolish comparisons are made, he was a FUN fighter to watch, he did not mind getting his head banged in but again he was NEVER an Elite fighter…

Posted July 7, 2014 2:15 pm 



Posted July 7, 2014 1:20 pm 

The Facts

r.i.p. Arturo Gatti, a throwback to the old days…Muhammad Ali needed trilogies against TOUGH yet LIMITED fighters like Ken Norton and Joe Frazier and he’s called THE GREATEST…Ali never did beat Norton clearly. Surely if Muhammad Ali had had a so vastly superior skill set, he wouldn’t have wanted to go through SO MANY wars either…once again, here’s to Arturo Gatti, HOF fighter…

Posted July 7, 2014 12:28 pm 


RIP warrior

Posted July 7, 2014 11:26 am 


They don’t make ’em like Gatti anymore. True Warrior.

Posted July 7, 2014 11:25 am 

Sorcery At Caesars

It’s hardly fair to hold Arturo’s loses against Baldomir and Lopez against him when they were the last two fights of his career. He’d already used up most of the miles on his odometer before the Ward trilogy, but by the time he fought them he was completely done in.

He was already pretty far down the slippery slope of decline by the time he fought Mayweather. Not that I think he ever would’ve beaten him when he was at his best or anything.

The loss against Ward isn’t a great example either as he definitely won that fight.

Posted July 7, 2014 11:07 am 


Yeah there was an imposter further below you guys should know my style, I rarely write short, WEAK sentences that convey little.. Those you want to imitate me are FORCED to write in blurbs because if they try to become expansive their poor command of the language and lack of cleverness will be EXPOSED…

Posted July 7, 2014 9:48 am 


Adrian, your “tears” are surely important to someone (most likely yourself) and we all agree that Gatti provided highlight reel moments in large part because he lacked the skill to fight at the elite level… I seriously doubt if Gatti had Oscar or Floyds skill he would have needed a trilogy with a TOUGH yet limited fighter like Mickey Ward… Oscar was NEVER defeated or badly beaten up by anything less than a HOF fighter and Floyd has NEVER lost… Arturo booked losses to the Baldomirs, Gomez, and Wards of the boxing World, definitely a fun guy to watch but you cannot knock TRULY great fighters because they are not super vulnerable punching bags…

Posted July 7, 2014 9:42 am 



was delima1 right , was that an impostor????


Raygordon you rival BEARS for the most demented retard on here.

Posted July 5, 2014 5:57 pm

Posted July 7, 2014 9:36 am 


Yeah sredmond you are right about gatti not being in mayweathers “lane ” just as he wasn’t in oscar’s lane too when gatti was younger and less beaten up but trust me mayweathers fights or oscars will never make my eyes teary far from that maybe sleepy lol

Posted July 7, 2014 9:33 am 

Exiled Yank

I always enjoyed Gatti’s fights. I admired his courageous heart and ability to try and evolve over time as he aged. He used to be a more traditional boxer who turned warrior, in the end he was returning to the boxer of old. RIP champ. It’s hard to recall a more beloved fighter in the past ten years other than Ward.

Posted July 7, 2014 9:24 am 


Its not fair to Gatti to compare him to Elite level fighters he that was not his lane. Gatti was all action all the time, highly entertaining fighter that was not afraid to die in the ring.. People comparing Gatti to Floyd or trying to knock Mayweather because he does not fight in the reckless manner that Gatti fought in should seriously cut back on the “bitterness” in their coffee.. We saw how far Gatti’s guts, determination and grit go him against Floyd.. He was taken apart in seconds and retired on his stool by round 6… 2 VERY different classes of fighter and guts and being “a warrior” were not gonna get him the “Rockyesque” victory…

Posted July 7, 2014 9:08 am 


as far as arturo not having skills why dont you ask the rueles broyhers about that.

Posted July 7, 2014 6:36 am 


Just watched gatti vs ward 1 and everytime I watch it as a fmr . Boxer myself i must admit I always my eyes get tears from sheer action and heart that these These two warriors gave it in that trilogy and the first fight was one if those fights that you really hope both would win… R.i.P Arthuro

Posted July 7, 2014 4:36 am 


Arturo gatti is the man rip bro still cant belive hes gone

Posted July 7, 2014 4:21 am 


Gatti being very exciting was directly related to his limited skill set and solid match making

Posted July 7, 2014 1:53 am 


Got bored reading the posts below so apologies if this point has already been made – Gatti was a warrior, plain and simple. No doubt there were more talented fighters like floyd and pac with far superior skill sets. However, if either of those had a fraction of his guts, then the supposed fight of our generation would have happened long before now. Hell, we could well have been looking at a classic trilogy. However, Gatti was always a guy you knew would go out on his shield. Win or lose, he would leave it all in the ring. The alleged circumstances of his untimely death are unbefitting of such a never say die warrior. Yeah he was limited in his skill set, but as far as giving his all in the squared circle, he was up there with the best. RIP champ. This great sport of ours needs more like you….

Posted July 7, 2014 1:35 am 


lets keep the thunder party going

Posted July 7, 2014 1:12 am 


Arturo thunder gatti the most exsiting fighter that ever lived

Posted July 6, 2014 11:07 pm 

The oracle of Delphi

R.I.P. champ! I salute you. International hall of fame inductee in 2013 !!!!

Posted July 6, 2014 10:18 pm 


R.I.P. Champ

Posted July 6, 2014 6:44 pm 


f/uck Gatti.

Posted July 6, 2014 6:20 pm 


Some people comparing Gatti to Floyd is ridiculous…..Ok, Floyd has more skill….but who was more exciting to watch? Gatti of course…nobody thinks Floyd fights are exciting, edge of your seat thrillers….they are a snoozefest.

Posted July 6, 2014 5:29 pm 


Arturo was a very courageous fighter.He lacked some of the talents others had ,but he was tough as nails in his hay day.He was a Rocky for sure.The guy took way too many clean shots however,and i think it effected his judgement,as irrational in lifes beliefs.what a warrior he was.

Posted July 6, 2014 4:55 pm 


I think Arturo was so cute I all way had a crush on him

Posted July 6, 2014 3:36 pm 

brza da originator

Gatti wud never try n fool the boxing public fightin a guy like lightning rod salka when a top contender is fightin on the same card against anonther scrub . F**k al haymon and anyone who defends him . His baby step match making gonna kill the sport . Is there any true boxong fan happy he stopped ggg chavex ,kovalev stevenson Smh

Posted July 6, 2014 3:14 pm 


Arturo Gatti, great little fighter, true warrior, Rest In Peace, Champ.

Posted July 6, 2014 2:35 pm 


Arturo Gatti, how could anyone forget such a glorious fighter. Rest in peace in the Hall of Fame Gatti, its where you obviously belong. The world is less without you champ.

Posted July 6, 2014 2:23 pm 


TJ, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Posted July 6, 2014 1:55 pm 

De Lima I.

To clear things up…

That wasn’t SREDMOND. That was the WICKED Hamster.

OCTAVIUS JOMAR CHATMAN is NOT SREDMOND, btw. He’s a guy from Atlanta…

Posted July 6, 2014 1:27 pm 


Gatti was a great fighter with some spectatular fights yes he was limited but you got your moneys worth at a Gatti fight. Boxing hall of fame is not what it was back in the days of Ali. When Rock Balboa a fictional character and Stallone where inducted you know it’s a joke.

Posted July 6, 2014 1:02 pm 

Octavius Jomar Chatman

Can we celebrate Arturo’s life without pulling other fighters and BS into the conversation???

Posted July 6, 2014 12:13 pm 


RIP in the HOF champ.

Posted July 6, 2014 11:09 am 


Gatti was n uunbelievable fighterfighter. I truly believe if Gatti had buddy in his corner when he was still in his prime I believe Gatti would of been a Pound for pound fighter there’s no Boxer out there that has the ability to jumpstart their career all over again the way Gatti did. He ended being better than his prime. No one can do that but Arturo Gatti as for the Floyd fans no Gatti was never a c fighter his prime and reign as IBF champion proves that. Gatti isnt a boxer who fight over the hill boxers like mayweather the reason Gatti has losses because he fought the best in their Prime name a prime fighter mayweather fought. Get off Floyd’s Dick and speak facts. Gatti fought the best win or lose he is HOF worthy if that wasn’t the case he wouldnt be in it

Posted July 6, 2014 9:25 am 

DaTruth Hurtzz

Mayweather vs Gatti = Roy Jones vs Paz = Mayweather vs Canelo = Paquiao vs MargaCheato = JuanMa vs Ponce Deleaon etc etc.

Posted July 6, 2014 9:03 am 

Josey Wales

Gatti was limited no doubt but he never left a ring wondering …What if ?
Regards Josey Wales

BTW good to see my old sparring partner Stuck in a moment posting here .

Posted July 6, 2014 8:54 am 


Mayweather vs Gatti = Roy Jones vs Paz

Posted July 6, 2014 8:50 am 


Rest in peace, Thunder. You were great to watch.

Posted July 6, 2014 8:49 am 


Gatti had life & death battles with very limited fighters skill wise = Not HOF worthy

Posted July 6, 2014 8:40 am 


If every pro fighter fought and entertained like gatti, boxing would be in the top 3 most viewed sports. Skills Gatti would get a C. But for everything else, A*

Posted July 6, 2014 8:20 am 


These South-American countries are dangerous and they respect no one and the cops can be bribed. It puzzles me if his wife had something to do with the robbery. Latin women are dangerous.

Posted July 6, 2014 7:30 am 



We lost Arturo ‘Thunder’ Gatti in a short period when we also lost Vernon Forrest and Alexis Arguello, who I would not dispute entry into boxing’s Hall of Fame…

All three boxers passed the criteria that I would choose for entering them into the HOF…. They won world titles at multiple weights…. Their names will never be forgotten in boxing parlance… They all gave us numerous memorable fights, win or lose and they are linked with other notable HOF fighters…

Forrest beat Sugar Shane twice! Arguello nearly became the first man to win titles at 4 different weights, running into the great Aaron ‘Hawk’ Pryor, when this feat ACTUALLY meant something back in the early 80s!

Gatti faced a who’s who list of fighters including ODLH and PBF and he gave fans a trilogy vs Ward that will never be forgotten, that got non boxing fans interested and he almost singlehandedly kept boxing alive in Atlantic City, NJ.

I remember when Naseem Hamed was steamrolling through the Featherweight division in the mid-late 90s and all the talk was of a clash with Thunder…. But, he chose to step up 2 divisions to campaign at Super Lightweight at a time when S&C coaches were more likely to be thought to do with S&M than boxing!!!

I have no worries of Gatti being in Boxing’s HOF, especially when there are other far more spurious names being included!!!!

Posted July 6, 2014 6:32 am 


AG was a very special fighter. A WARRIOR.

Posted July 6, 2014 6:00 am 


only the plastic fans would rather watch floydie or wladdy. trouble is its harder to stay awake.

Posted July 6, 2014 5:51 am 


Arturo gatti was some thing special this guy all way fought to the end never gave up I never seen some one take punish ment like that and then nok the guy out this guy would risk his life in there to win the fight unbelivebal

Posted July 6, 2014 5:36 am 


made me sad reading the article. all the memories of the fights we saw. untimely death, a true entertainer 100% given at all times. boxing a sport of many contrasts, great to see this mans contribution. RIP.

Posted July 6, 2014 4:26 am 

Bill Patrice Jones

Tragic death when the news broke. Unbelievably tough and determined fighter in his prime. Only a handful of people are born with that sort of natural toughness. It’s something you’re born with physically and when combined with dedication, discipline heart and motivation you have the perfect soil to create a great prizefighter.

Posted July 6, 2014 4:15 am 


I don’t think any fight fan has any issues of “The Thunder” being inducted into the HOF however there should be no comparison in terms of skill level to Floyd as made evident by their records and resume.

Posted July 6, 2014 3:24 am 


Arturo gatti was a warror he had the looks the skills heart end never say die atutude I think he belongs in the hall of fame

Posted July 6, 2014 3:19 am 

The oracle of Delphi

“Largo is a villain that appeared in the first part of Monkey Island 2: LeChuck’s Revenge, as a local bully on Scabb Island who prevented any ships from leaving (called the “Largo Embargo”). As such, he is universally loathed on Scabb Island, with many island inhabitants playing tricks on him, such as the barkeeper slipping laxatives into his drinks, for all the anguish he has caused for them. He had formerly been the right-hand man of the ghost pirate LeChuck before he had been melted by Guybrush Threepwood. Guybrush constructed a voodoo doll of Largo using, among various other things, Largo’s bra…..”

Dude, all I am saying is that I am fan of Gatti, like to watch his fights and I am turned off by the so called pound of pound best that SREDMOND mentioned to put Gatti down, Floyd also known as Fraud by some Mayweather. Your SREDMIOND said that Gatti should not be even mentioned since Mayweather anihilated him. All I am saying is that Floyd fought him when he was no longer at his best, after being trough too many wars. This article was about Gatti, and your buddy SREDMOND made it about Fraud. So I can not make my own statement that I regard Gatti more exciting than Floyd the cherry picker Mayweather???

Posted July 6, 2014 1:53 am 


Israel Vasquez vs Rafael marquez was a better war than Ward vs Gatti…

Posted July 6, 2014 1:45 am 


Gatti couldn’t even get past Ivan Robinson twice ffs. Learn something.

Posted July 6, 2014 1:44 am 


Gatti was a C – boxer while Floyd is an A+, enough said.

Posted July 6, 2014 1:43 am 

brza da originator

@ largo why u have hof ? In front of hernandez castillo n coralles . Do u think this makes floyds victories over them greater smh . Floyds an atg no need to try n scew stuff . Those guys r not hall of famers n ur putting a question mark there Not gonna change that rofl .

Posted July 6, 2014 1:23 am 


Exhibit A of the type of morons posting at ESB nowadays :”The oracle of Delphi

SREDMOND, Gatti was 10x the fighter (not boxer) that Fraud is. Fraud caught him on his way down, after his 3 wars against Ward!, not that he would have not beat him, but Fraud is a fraud, what can I say……”…this moron is talking about Floyd Jr. when he says fraud; the same Floyd who beat a master boxer called Genaro Hernandez(hof?), a prime monster puncher called Corrales(hof?)- RIP-, another under-rated boxer-puncher called Castillo(hof?)-twice-, a very young & vibrant Judah, a very alive De La Hoya(HOF), a prime Hatton(hof?), Marquez(futureHOF), a Mosley(futureHOF) coming off a huge win, a young hard puncher called Ortiz, a very strong Cotto(futureHOF)-a very prime & young Canelo…with a resume like that, how can ANYBODY called Floyd a FRAUD? That shows what I said about the kind of morons polluting this site with their ignorance & hate…it’s a f’n shame.

Posted July 6, 2014 1:08 am 

Tinker bell

The solution to forum trolling is simple: one, register a single name through an email address and two, provide active moderation, best done through reliable forum members so the job is shared, and three, create and respect forum rules.

Posted July 6, 2014 1:03 am 

The oracle of Delphi

Yup, the good old days of idiots…

Posted July 6, 2014 12:36 am 


Gatti was exciting

Posted July 6, 2014 12:22 am 


We still have some good posters at ESB, like te tumbo, tomato can, SREDMOND, TARK & a few others that escape my drunken mind but ESB has been plagued by a band of trolls, as$holes, retards & just plain morons…I miss the old days when Old Yank, TARK, te tumbo, Tomato Can, SREDMON, kid blast, fight aficionado & many others made ESB the boxing site to comment & enjoy an intelligent & knowledgeable discussion. The good old days…

Posted July 5, 2014 11:59 pm 

God’s P.A

Agreed. Is there any FM fight that ppl will rewatch in 20 years time???

Posted July 5, 2014 10:44 pm 

The oracle of Delphi

SREDMOND, Gatti was 10x the fighter (not boxer) that Fraud is. Fraud caught him on his way down, after his 3 wars against Ward!, not that he would have not beat him, but Fraud is a fraud, what can I say……
One Gatti Ward fight is worth almost more than all of the bore festivals that Fraud gave us!

Posted July 5, 2014 10:27 pm 

stuck in a moment

RGR is awesome. Don’t insult him.

Posted July 5, 2014 8:39 pm 


God give you peace, Champ

Posted July 5, 2014 7:40 pm 


Gatti gave us wars, Ward a classy warrior as well.

Posted July 5, 2014 7:22 pm 

brza da originator

Before guineas were associated wit da mob n rocky marciano now when u think guinea u think loadmouth nyc cop who commutes from long island jersey shore guidos n paulie the magic man mallinaggi

Posted July 5, 2014 6:54 pm 

Bo Bo Olson

There was a time not long ago, when Gatti was disrespected by those who only respect an 0, because he lost a hell of a fight to Ivan Robinson, whose time in the sun was short.
I remember being irked by that lot….The same lot that down payed the Ward fights because Ward had lost a few.

Styles make some fights. Hearts make others. Gatti had the heart, as did many of his fine opponents. Heart to heart, he had great fights with great men. Win or lose. He came to fight and did, as did they.

Posted July 5, 2014 6:51 pm 

brza da originator

Gatti was matweathers first ppv . This guy put up big numbers because of his style because he always left it in the ring . The man deserves respect .

Posted July 5, 2014 6:23 pm 


If Gatti had beaten both DeLaHoya & Mayweather then by all means he would have earned the right to be in da HOF

Posted July 5, 2014 6:19 pm 

no clue

gatti did not pass away but was killed … that regardless, the man was one of the few old-school slugfest masters remaining in boxing and with his departure this special breed is all but extinct at the elite level of competition

Posted July 5, 2014 4:50 pm 

brza da originator

Boxing is not just a sport of skill and athlethic ability but its also a sport of intangibles and aurtoro had all the intangibles . For said reason im glad he s deemed a hof er but im also glad there was a lot of debate on if he did belong there but in the end he just about deserved to get there . His great nemises irish micky ward had all the same intangibles but overall arturo was that bit better . So sorry micky no hof for u champ but u can take consolation in all the millions u made from movie royalties

Posted July 5, 2014 4:15 pm 


Always came to rumble – Not Hall of Fame worthy

Posted July 5, 2014 4:10 pm 

brza da originator

Boxing is a sport of not just skill but also intangible s and the great arturo gatti had all the intangibles . Im glad he got into the hall of fame but im also glad there was a lot of debate on him bein elected n I hope he barely got in . His great nemisis irish micky ward had the same intangibles but overall gatti was that bit better so sorry micky no hof for u . Guess u will just have to take comfort in all those millions u got in royalties from the fighter

Posted July 5, 2014 4:07 pm 

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