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FA – Just an FYI, HBO fights are not free you have to pay and subscibe to HBO to see them.. if they were free they’d be on over the air free TV Channels.. plenty of people who do not pay for HBO will not see these HBO fights.. just clarifying that these fights on HBO are not on FREE TV….

Posted September 18, 2012 4:38 pm 

Ray Ray

No rematch, itl b the same except Martinez won’t get dropped I’n the last rnd. Way better options 4 both out there how about Narravill takes on Geale. Winner take all u rarely c that I’n boxing these days. Chavez could easily move up but I don’t think he would do any gd I’n the stackt sprmiddlewght

Posted September 18, 2012 5:54 am 


NOOO rematch!! Chavez move up to 168 and stop fighting little men…

Posted September 17, 2012 7:38 pm 


Rematch? FOR SAKE NO! so that Chavez can completely retire from another beating? I want to see him get knocked out by Golovkin first!! CHAVEZ – GOLOVKIN…

Posted September 17, 2012 7:34 pm 


That’s exactly it, i got both but i’m cancelling hbo though they just constantly feed you garbage & in house fighters(You could see how bias the whole cast is) fake/overrated they have good bouts every now & then but a lot of garbage is pushed down peoples throats.Showtime quality>HBO quantity.Yeah i watched Matthysee-ajose a fight of the year candidate over ward-dawson snooze fest.HBO ratings were average considering how much hype they tried to build.

Posted September 17, 2012 6:03 pm 



Posted September 17, 2012 4:01 pm 


I agree dude! While Martinez probably isn’t avoiding anyone, nor afraid of anyone, promoters will view a fight with GGG to be high risk – low reward. Financial ducking plain and simple. I wish there was something in the sport that forced the best to fight the best and punished them when they didn’t for anyone reason. Personally I think a Martinez/Golovkin fight is the most exciting one to make at middle but don’t count on it ever happening.

Posted September 17, 2012 3:20 pm 


jojowhite, I’d like to know what drugs you’re on and then ask for some as well. Something tells me you’re sticking up for Chavez and a rematch because you’re a Chavez fan.

One single knockdown, which Sergio recovered from by the way, does not in anyway negate the fact that he was being beat badly for 11 and a half round by a vastly more talented fighter. To pour some salt on Jr’s wounds, Sergio whooped him with just one good hand too!

You said “he was one shot away from a huge KO victory”. Really? Every single fighter in every single fight throughout the history of boxing is always just one shot away from a huge KO victory. That’s part of what many fans love about boxing is the unexpected. Could Chavez Jr. catch Martinez again with a lucky, desperate punch? Of course he could, anyone could. I’m not so much interested in whether or not he might be able to but rather the likely hood of that happening. Jr. was exposed by Martinez in this fight as was dominated….again dominated for all but 60 seconds of the fight.

Chavez is a B- level club fighter/gatekeeper who’s been carefully moved through a list of guys they knew posed just enough risk so as to make him look good in victory. A rematch will likely play out the same if it happens. Actually it may be worse for Chavez if Martinez has two healthy hands. Don’t make excuses for Chavez Jr. dude, he’s lucky to have gotten as far as he has in the sport. Without that last name he’d be a nobody, just a medicore fighter who’s lazy, relies on his size to win, and isn’t nearly as dedicated to the sport as he should be.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:46 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Of course they’ll try to sell a rematch because it’ll make money. Jr’s fans can rationalize that round 1 of the rematch would be like round 13 of Saturday’s fight. It won’t be. It’ll be another virtual shutout win for Martinez and another $50 PPV for a mismatch that should be on regular HBO. I skipped the PPV and watched Showtime’s excellent card. They televised 4 quality matches for free with 3 of them highly competitive. That’s why I scrapped HBO in favor of Showtime back in 2010. All HBO does is showcase their house fighters vs punching bags and over-priced PPVs. No thanks.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:34 pm 

Super Fan

What does whether it was a PPV fight or not have to do with whether a rematch is necessary? This is a case of promoters taking advantage of an ignorant boxing community and taking advantage of a fan base with blind allegiances. This fight wasn’t competitive except for less than 2 minutes of a 12 round fight.

Cotto had far more success than Chavez Jr. and no one is chasing that fight down for a rematch. This is just a money grab. A sad one at that.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:53 pm 


cz money rules in our society…and chavez is a much bigger payday than the unknown russians or poles in spite of their better fights…

Posted September 17, 2012 1:12 pm 


EASY??? you know how hard he had to train to be in that condition to run and dance at age 37, and then to have the deep conditioning to withstand a heavyweight type of punch during three hard left hooks to the head, once his legs got tired and could not avoid the punches, being one good last punch away from losing everything, being totally knocked out in the most important fight of his life? …EASY>>. i dont think so!!!

Posted September 17, 2012 1:09 pm 


hey author you are so full of it….the fact that junior survived until the 12th and hurt martinez makes ALL the difference in the world, he was one shot away from a huge KO victory, so that lone brings suspense, perhaps the young man can learn a lesson and hurt the older much smaller man…..they would both make plenty of money and it would NOT be an easy victory for Sergio….you think that Sergio did not fight smart at the end? You dont happen to think it may have been the fatigue factor after dancing so much for 10 rounds? comon author, you are way off on your knowledge of the sweet science!…………..what we really need are 15rounders again!

Posted September 17, 2012 1:04 pm 


In other words “Hi public i’m Lou Dibella and i have not been this profitable since Taylor vs Hopkins, i have a stable of over 50 fighters and only have one champion, so please buy the garbage rematch.”

Posted September 17, 2012 12:39 pm 


Junior had a superb strategy. He let his opponent beat the crap out of him for 11 and half rounds, until Martinez was so tired of hitting him he momentarily fell over from exhaustion in the middle of the 12th round. Nearly won the fight for Chavez too!

Posted September 17, 2012 12:35 pm 

Exiled Yank

Yes. Martinez gets nothing from a rematch, other than another easy payday.

Posted September 17, 2012 12:21 pm 


i almost see you all of you watchin the the revange.

Posted September 17, 2012 11:38 am 

Exiled Yank

I just watched rd 12 online. If Martinez beat up Chavez the previous 11 rounds like he did the opening 2 minutes of round 12, then there is no need for a rematch. Even after the KD, Martinez got up and out boxed Chavez… with a torn knee and broken hand! A rematch is meaningless.

Posted September 17, 2012 11:28 am 


Chavez came in the fight damn near a heavy weight…. To me that’s his game. He outweighs his opponents by at least 10 pounds or more in the fight. No rematch needed. He heavy ass was getting his ass whooped until about 1 minute or so left in the fight unlit he landed a good shot lol… And Martinez still finished strong until the bell. When they went to the score cards he lost by a wide margin on every card.. That really doesn’t call for a rematch.

Posted September 17, 2012 11:10 am 


Martinez vs Pirog, Golovkin vs Geale. Winner fights winner for Middleweight supremacy.

Posted September 17, 2012 11:07 am 


The only time he tagged Martinez was when Maravilla got tired and careless. If you a true boxing fan you would know this. We the paying public deserve better fights that crappy rematch.

Posted September 17, 2012 11:05 am 

Clown face

It’s just a money grab at this point we don’t need to see a rematch Chavez is a clown and got beat like a dog and of story.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:50 am 


what the boxing fans deserve is an undisputet champ….let the belt holder figh each other….geal will loos to maravilla and GGG…..the only fight im realy interestet in is martinez vs GGG fight…….GGG KO 7

Posted September 17, 2012 10:37 am 

Exiled Yank

I didn’t see the fight, but how can a KD in the 12th warrant a rematch? No one who has seen the fight disputes the argument that Martinez dominated this kid for 11.5 rounds. I didn’t buy the first one, there is no way I’ll even consider the second. I hope Showtime puts on another stellar card the same night. That’s how to put an end to this bs ppv racket; by giving the fans an excellent, free alternative.

Posted September 17, 2012 9:58 am 

Neil (pomy)

I cant believe you are being serious …. nobody is that blind.

Posted September 17, 2012 9:57 am 


This is a money play because Martinez and Chavez are the big names at 160, but fights like this don’t warrant rematches… When a guy gets dominated by the favorite absent some sort of scoring controversy its pretty much and open and shut case…Move on to the next challenges…

Posted September 17, 2012 9:33 am 


I think a lot of people are not looking at the fight the same way I did. I feel Chavez (after round 2/3) became a little discouraged and didn’t pressure as much. Then he turned it up at the end and had good results. I think he might start off faster and pressure more to tired out Martinez. Sergio looked damn good and won 10/11 rounds. But that doesn’t mean a rematch isn’t a good thing. It was a fun fight and can sell to the public as “what could have happened.” This is GOOD FOR BOXING! We need more viewers and big sell outs. It was a fun fight to watch, a man take punishment and come back to almost pull off a victory. I’d love to see it again!

Posted September 17, 2012 9:31 am 


Yeah, but Andrade really did win his first fight with Bute. Bute was out on his feet. The ref saved him. That’s not what happened in this fight. Martinez was dazed and hurt but he wasn’t out and he could still fight. I do think a knockdown should have been called though when Martinez was on the ropes. Not when Chavez threw him to the canvas–he didn’t intentionally throw him down but Martinez went down when Jr. pulled him around in the process of trying to hit him again.

Posted September 17, 2012 9:25 am 


LOL! You’re joking, right, Anonymous? Maybe you didn’t see Martinez swinging right up to the bell at the end of the 12th round. “Out” LOL!

Posted September 17, 2012 9:21 am 


I was gong for Chavez but congrats to Martinez he fought a Hell of a fight. proved me wrong.

Posted September 17, 2012 8:42 am 


Couldn’t have put it better myself..Why not a Martinez vs golovkin fight…..That would be better for both the fans and boxing.

Posted September 17, 2012 8:29 am 


Got me some Serg man meat after the fight just like I boldly predicted. I am the greatest man lover boxing quicker picker of all time!

Posted September 17, 2012 8:02 am 


Me neither. I am the greatest man loving boxing quicker picker of all time.

Posted September 17, 2012 8:00 am 


Posted September 17, 2012 7:45 am 


You do realize Martinez not only got up but continued to connect to Chavez Jr. with over a minute left in the fight? considering Martinez had a Broken Hand and torn Knee Ligament that is amazing.. Why do you guys always root for the Bully?? Chicken Jr. Outweights his opponents by over 20+lbs yet you idiots are OK with that? You idiots know damn Well Margarito was loading his Gloves with Bricks and your OK with that? You idiots know damn well many of your fighters like Vargas, Salido, Chavez Jr. have been busted for using illegal Drugs and Steriods to get an adavantage over their unsuspecting opponents yet you guys continue to support these cheats as if they were Great Fighters??? Have some Class and Dignity for Gods sake…

Posted September 17, 2012 7:14 am 


Dibella was quoted as saying: This fight makes all the sense in world for my wallet, um I mean boxing. I meant to say boxing really. :grin:

Posted September 17, 2012 6:54 am 


Um help us, if he was unable to continue then hwo was he able to trade teh rest of the 12th????

Posted September 17, 2012 6:49 am 


How does a blown up Jr MDW get wobbled by a Cruiserweight/LHW show a chinny guy :?:

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Posted September 17, 2012 6:25 am 

Swedish Boxing Fan

Well this did not come out as a chock for boxing fans and experts. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr waqs in the likness of doomed to lose this fight against Sergio Martinez and Chavez Jr failed to live up his hype and his fathers legacy like some hear talked about before etc and I agree that there is pointless with a rematch when Martinez won about 11 of 12 possible rounds and was never in the fight in danger or even truly hurt either. No we need something better. :arrow:

Posted September 17, 2012 5:47 am 

Neil (pomy)

Stop trying to con the poublic …. no rematch is needed. Time for Martinez to clear out the division again. There are other fighters out there at middleweight more worthy of a chance at Martinez.

Posted September 17, 2012 5:45 am 


in rematch the result will be the same but Martinez wont go in for the exchanges and win 12 rounds to 0. Everybody is quick to forget Chaves takes steroids ! or at least portrays the image of someone who does. He makes weight and looks like a ghost doing it but the ability to put back on 20lbs and its not all a stomach full of food and water he looked easy 170+ why not fight at super middle and be on time for PED tests? I will watch a rematch but I wouldnt pay for that. Americans get ripped off $49.95 for a boxing match or any sport is obscene. why do you pay for HBO, or Fox sport for them to then charge $50 so Arum and Diabella can make some cash. Chaves shouled fight Golovkin ! or Martinez should he will put a beating on both

Posted September 17, 2012 5:41 am 


No point in rematch the result will be the same but Martinez wont go in for the exchanges and win 12 rounds to 0. Everybody is quick to forget Chaves takes steroids ! or at least portrays the image of someone who does. He makes weight and looks like a ghost doing it but the ability to put back on 20lbs and its not all a stomach full of food and water he looked easy 170+ why not fight at super middle and be on time for PED tests? I will watch a rematch but I wouldnt pay for that. Americans get ripped off $49.95 for a boxing match or any sport is obscene. why do you pay for HBO, or Fox sport for them to then charge $50 so Arum and Diabella can make some cash. Chaves shouled fight Golovkin ! or Martinez should he will put a beating on both

Posted September 17, 2012 5:40 am 


yeah he wasn’t just schooled, he got a diploma on how to get hit and not hit back lol

Posted September 17, 2012 5:28 am 


Chavez cant moan he has likely made a few $million as a paper champ,set for life with his own cash not daddy’s.

Posted September 17, 2012 5:26 am 


Yeah, I want the rematch but only if its 100 rounds because that’s how many it may take for JCC to land another lucky punch if Sergio decides not to trade with a guy 20 lbs heavier than him and just box. Can you say boxing clinic?

Posted September 17, 2012 4:43 am 


The only reason that JCC landed his punches in the 12th is because Sergio decided to trade with him. He didn’t have to trade with a guy 20lbs heavier than him to win. He could have just pot shot him all night and win every round on points. That is exactly what his strategy would be in a rematch. It would be a boring boxing clinic.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:36 am 

Boxing Barlow

People who follow the sport properly know who the universal champs are. Hopkins was then Taylor beat him, then Pavlik beat Taylor, and finally Martinez beat Pavlik so it therefore the true middleweight champ. Just because the Alphabets stripped Martinez or any other true linear champs it doesnt mean crap to us true fans.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:35 am 


In my day, competitive fights, fights that if you watched, you couldn’t tell who was winning because it was that good..those fights constitute a rematch. I think just about everyone watching could tell who was winning that fight. He gave it a good effort, he just couldn’t pull it off though. JC Jr. has so much boxing left in him he’s young he’s talented, he’ll be on top again.

Posted September 17, 2012 3:58 am 

Mr. T

If rematch, Jr. will come swinging early and result can be either way KO. Either Jr. catches Martinez several times and gets KO or Martinez, counters and gets KO in several attempts. I really think Martinez should drop down to 154 and win some good fights before he retires. What you think?

Posted September 17, 2012 3:57 am 


i think it should be a rematch that knock down changed all showed martinez vulnerable and a chiny guy .

Posted September 17, 2012 3:51 am 


90 seconds of Chavez dominance alone doesn’t warrant a rematch. I think Dibella might be wanting to avoid GGG.

I think Martinez easily wins a Chavez rematch btw.

Posted September 17, 2012 3:16 am 


Sergio does not need the wear that an faux middleweight like Chavez gave him. Chavez does not belong in that division and Sergio had the belt stripped from him by way of a rule that their WBC belt can not be held in more then one weight class. Sergio did not pick one in time and they stripped him of the middleweight vacating the title which Chavez then won fighting one of the many obscure opponents he has mugged. Although Chavez did make weight, the new trend of boxers to agree to take a fight with a opponent who cant make weight if monetary compensation is made further weakens the sport. He does not owe Chavez a rematch because of the outrageous amount of rounds he won. It is dangerous to assume that because Chavez can make weight and come in 15-20 lbs heavier at the fight that this would be smart even if the money was good. Martinez, Great fight. Now go beat on Mayweather and shut that big mouth up.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:24 am 


I think Martinez should go rule the 154 pound dvision for a years worth of big paydays and then retire. Don’t want a chavez rematch, I’d rather see Sergio take on Coo and Canelo. He’ll win, and he’ll get the money and cement his place in history. He’s earned his right to take some money fights and retire. He has my respect

Posted September 17, 2012 1:40 am 


No way Chavez beats Golovkin or even comes close. There were already reports out of the gym that Golovkin completely owned (albeit a less experienced) Chavez in sparring (as well as Canelo).
Chavez vs Sturm could be interesting. Chavez vs Geale would likely go similar to Chavez-Martinez though Chavez may be more successful as Geale lacks the pop to keep Chavez honest that Martinez has. A Pirog fight would be interesting or even challenging the winner of N’jikam-Quillin.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:36 am 

eye of the tiger

don’t need to see it. but with all do respect bute-andrade had a rematch as well under similar circumstances.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:34 am 


Chavez Sr loves his son. You can see this. Jr wanted to be a fighter. I wish my pops supported me in things like Chavez Sr.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:32 am 

The Mad Scientist

WTF?- it really doesnt matter to me if they rematch or not, I just like watching Chavez Jr fight even thow his not the most skilled boxer out there..Juniors critics make him much more fun to watch because the kid is not that garbage fighter they make him out to be..he’ll never be his oldman or an all time great but Im sure the kid will provide the boxing fans (love him or hate him) with more dramatic and exciting nights before its all said and done..

Posted September 17, 2012 1:30 am 

Don Quixote

“…like he did in the 12th…”or as he did in the 12th
Which is correct?

Posted September 17, 2012 1:08 am 

Don Quixote

Even though everybody is entitled to their opinion as this writer is, his reasoning behind his opposition to a rematch does not make sense once one considers the fact, if it is a fact, that Chavez was not properly prepared, as suggested by Roach, his coach. Why should the promoters, if a rematch would take place, be viewed as taking advantage of some fans? If is perceived by them that a rematch would bring fans to the sport and money to them, why not? According to this writer the fight was distasteful, for lack of a better word, as he says , it’s like selling bad food” and he adds that the “food was mostly horrible.” If this writer was present at the event, he must have heard a lot of boos, suggesting the fight was bad, of else, his middle name is Stevie Wonder….

Posted September 17, 2012 1:05 am 


What boxing needs is unified division champions….Bring Geale vs Martinez…Geale owns 2 belts..lets make it 3 and give him ashot at Martinez..Geale went Germany and won both belts on foreign soil..

Posted September 17, 2012 1:05 am 


Stop it with the 15 rd bs already you stupid,no knowledge of boxing, retarded little fan boys. if this fight was 15 rds chavez would’ve been weighted the day of the fight and would have been killed as skeletical as he looked at the weigh in.

Posted September 17, 2012 12:55 am 

Sucker Punch

AIf this was 15 rouds….”….blah,blah,blah. It wasn’t a 15 round fight you idiot, it was 12. The last 15 rd fight was fought in 83′. This was a 12 rd fight and chavez didn’t do jack. so no to a rematch.

Posted September 17, 2012 12:49 am 


Nicolous if Mayweather barley squeeked by a washed Cotto how will he beat Martinez ? Mayweather only fights name guys who are wash up or primed little guys you haven’t notice the pattern ?

Posted September 17, 2012 12:46 am 


If the fight was 10 round this article wouldn’t exist!! Too little to late.

Posted September 17, 2012 12:41 am 


Chavez EARNED the rematch, and this is coming from someone who had little respect for Chavez as a fighter. I wanted to see him prove himself first. If this was a 15 round fight. Martinez most likely would have been knocked out. So that tells you that these guys need to have a rematch.

Posted September 17, 2012 12:18 am 


I’m sure Chavez’s team would love to fight in Texas, where they just don’t test sometimes, and a judge can be blind as a pig .

Posted September 17, 2012 12:05 am 


That’s actually a really good idea (provided you can get all the sanctioning bodies to agree). The middleweight division is VERY deep in talent right now with Martinez, Geale, Chavez, Golovkin, Pirog, N’Jikam and Quillin.
Quillin and N’Jikam are about to sort themselves out. Get the winner of that in with Pirog. The winner of Geale-Martinez fights the winner of Golovkin-Chavez, then the winner of that can give the winner of Quillin-N’Jikam-Pirog (maybe throw Sam Soliman in there to keep the IBF happy) a shot and you have a completely undisputed champ at the end.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:58 pm 


No thanks, next fight should be Martinez vs Geale…Chavez Jnr should set up a fight with Golovkin, now thats a fight I would pay to see, put them on the same card and it would be even better..

Posted September 16, 2012 11:41 pm 


Yeah, but was Mosley/ Mayweather or Mosley/Judah worthy PPV events? Because I don’t think they were, but they still sold a crap load of PPVs.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:34 pm 


There are a lot of bugus PPV’s out there, and they get made because there is a demand for it. This event was a success and many people thought it was a mismatch.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:33 pm 

swamp gas

no rematch is needed. we learned what we needed to now. martinez is much better, and chavez has been trading on his larger size unfairly, very unsportsmanlike.
let martinez take on the smaller champs, and sort it out. we don’t need pacquia
fighting a fourth fight with the same opponent either. boxing fans should vote with their money and not pay for bad redundant matches, and buy only good ones.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:18 pm 

The Super Fan

We need to see a rematch because in the last round Chavez landed a hard punch and dropped Martinez? So I guess we should have also demanded Floyd fight Mosley again. You know because Mosley had him hurt in 1 round even though he lost all 11 others. We should also request Judah – Mayweather because Judah hurt Floyd too. Or how about Samuel Peter get another shot at Klitchklo because he knocked him down 3 times (rematch did happen and Peter got destroyed).

This is how silly you guys sound. If you lose 11 rounds to 1 that is not an accident. Following a guy around and hoping he stands there long enough to hurt him is not a great game plan. It amazes me some of the comments made on here. They make no sense. And they speak to your allegiances more than common sense. 11 rounds to 1 and in the rematch Chavez would KO Martinez in 4 as someone wrote?

I mean honestly I feel everyone can say what they want on a message board but try to think at least a little bit.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:14 pm 


No way Martinez should give Chavez a rematch.. not to mention a Texas venue. Why not just have Martinez :grin: put on a “JCC” head-band and deliver it personally to him at his house?!?

Posted September 16, 2012 11:10 pm 


Why in the hell would Martinez give a rematch to a guy he clearly dominited? To make money of course, but he also risks getting robbed in Texas unless he puts a rehydration clause in the contract which wont allow chavez Jr. To rehydrate to more than 5 pounds after the weight in and also make chavez submit to olympic drug testing. If those two things happen Maravilla KO’s chavez no matter what size the ring is, but unless is under those conditions I have no desire to see an outstanding Jr. Middle weight fight a mediocre, juiced up cruiser weight, paying the price physically and then getting robbed by some corrupt judges. I was at the chavez-Martinez fight last night (just cause my wife wanted to go cause I really hate bob arum), but count me out of even ordering a rematch.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:01 pm 


Nah, the rematch would just be the same thing. Only Martinez wouldn’t get careless late and just pot-shot Chavez until the final bell, Chavez just ain’t got the skills to beat Martinez and “that’s that!!!” No further discussion! Maybe Julio can go up and look for slower less skilled guys. He and the FROCH’S, BUTE’S, etc,,, would be good $$ , but not Martinez again.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:47 pm 


Funny that people say stuff like “maravilla can’t brutalize Chavez”. What does that Word (brutalize) mean to you? If it means knock down a fighter that is worn out from throwing a million punches 11+ rounds I agree. Just like me saying “Chavez was never in the fight, is not as fast, skilled, experienced, savvy, conditioned, etc…. Bottom line is that Chavez got beat and he looked bad losing. Martinez is a far better fighter and made Chavez look like a toughman contestant. Those are real facts… There is your “brutalize”.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:46 pm 


Mad Scientist – News Flash, Martinez did brutalize Chavez jr. that being said I think a rematch would be a good thing for Martinez Money wise and would make for an interesting matchup because Chavez Jr. did show he could hurt Martinez.. so I’m ok with them making a rematch… would make some serious money but Martinez hurt his Hamstring when he fell and will need surgery so I’m sure how long he will be out and whether or not he’ll be able to defend his title.. Hopefully they don’t use that as the excuse to strip him once again…

Posted September 16, 2012 10:30 pm 

el chapo

Boxing deserves this rematch??? What the ‘f’ is that supposed to mean? I know Lou doesn’t mean that boxing fans deserveit…if so, who did we pirse off to the point that we should sit through another 12 rounds of a one sided sparring match? Sure, JR landed a few shots at the end but anyone who thinks that because of one round cowboyi stadium would sell out is a f’ing moron.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:18 pm 

The Mad Scientist

ofcourse you mofo’s dont wanna see the rematch anymore..its not going to fun holding your asses tight for 12 rounds hoping Martinez doesnt get KTFO now that is crystal clear Maravilla can’t brutalize Chavez Jr. ..Lol!

Posted September 16, 2012 10:16 pm 


Will be a good fight. If Chavez can make weight…and his urine was clean…Sergio will get KO’d.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:10 pm 


There won’t be a part 3.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:07 pm 


Spoiled paper champ jr doesn’t deserve this fight but his idiot fans will support him anyways at least some.I payed partially for this ppv in a long time & got what i wanted,won’t wait around for TR & arum to take my money the second time & run with it(marquez-pac2,3 Tim-pac).Who’s ever paying the second time enjoy it’s not worth it again.Sergio proved why he’s better.Jr fans can pay to watch another clinic on their fake fighter though lol.I’m sure these fools will they always do,they like the garbage arum feeds em.Like fighter like fan.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:03 pm 


Dibella just see more money with a re-match. Texas has a crappy commission, jr wont piss, come in heavy, and daddy will walk up on the ring apron to coach when he sees fit without being a licensed trainer. All of the above have happened in TX fights with Jr.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:50 pm 


Maybe they will develop a new test to detect certain PEDs and the fighters’ dominance over the division and the fighters’ true natural ability make them top 10 and top 20 instead of #1. It’s happend before pound for pound best fighters have mysteriously lost their “skill” and “talent” once a certain
“sports lab” was forced to close and I’m not talking about just one “great” fighter in particular.

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Posted September 16, 2012 9:35 pm 


i agree but with king and the wbc back then we know what problem was and steele in there we know!!!sometimes history doesn’t repeat!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 9:18 pm 


Maybe Canelo will grow a pair and take on Sergio Martinez at 154lbs… that would be nice.. better then the 140lb Lopez…

Posted September 16, 2012 8:57 pm 


It wasn’t a knockdown. It was a throwdown. Watch a replay. Although Martinez was in trouble, it wasn’t a punch that knocked him down. It was Jr. throwing him down. Watch the replay.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:51 pm 


Hardly. One fight had nothing to do with the other. Nothing.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:50 pm 


Nah. Martinez would be risking too much, WTF?. Not only would his legacy be tarnished if he lost to Jr. in a second fight, then there would be calls for a third fight to prove who really is the best. I mean really, Martinez is 37. I can’t speak for him but if I was him I’d turn down a rematch and fight someone more my own size. Let the money go. The outcome may not be worth it. Dibella has a cash cow on his hands now and he wants to capitalize on him. Shades of Bob Arum.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:48 pm 


No rematch! Jr. is too big to be fighting as a middleweight. Besides, Martinez did what he said he’d do, and proved what he said he’d prove. No rematch!

Posted September 16, 2012 8:45 pm 


Why a rematch? because for Martinez the Money would be huge a career high for sure.. not that Martinez would be selling out because I feel Martinez believes rightfully so that he’d bust up Chavez Jr again just as easily and this time would not make that 12th round Macho mistake of brawling with his hands down… For Chavez Jr. moving up is just not an option, his camp knows damn well he could never take on the Andre Wards up there.. So they need to milk this fight as long as it can be made… Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing Junior get Humiliated for another 12 rounds and have it end with ZERO questions as to the outcome… then Martinez can move on to others…

Posted September 16, 2012 8:43 pm 

Its Me, Ernie

Shut up Dibella…

Posted September 16, 2012 8:39 pm 


Dibella lol,should’ve known he’s a promoter & not the one fighting in there what can you say.I hope they can get bigger fights after this,they better hope it doesn’t bite them in the a## & go to the distance cause nothing is sure in texas.I know jr fans got a whole lot confident lol.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:34 pm 


Why a rematch? Nothing to see here.. Martinez worked and displayed superior skill for 11 rounds. Chavez stomped around the ring looking for his “puncher’s chance”. A rematch would only benefit Chavez jr. with Martinez’ clock ticking at 37 years old. Besides, what did Chavez do to warrant a rematch? He caught a guy finally, in desperation in the 12th round after Martinez threw around 900 punches and was worn out? The truth is it was as one sided as a fight can get the whole fight with the exception in a few seconds in the 12th. Chavez was outclassed, outskilled and outworked. He did nothing to deserve a rematch. What’s more is that people don’t want to see it again. Why not make a fight like Chavez Jr. VS Pavlik, Ward VS Chavez, etc..

Posted September 16, 2012 8:28 pm 

reality bites

This fight will happen again. Boxing has, and always will be about making rich promotors more rich. Its never been about the best fighters fighting each other for the dignity of the sport. And it sure isnt about giving the loyal fans what they desreve either….the best fighting the best. Boxing is run by rich, corrupt old guys who have never laced up….this isnt gonna change any time soon… ready yourselves for Martinez, Chavez part 2….i cant wait for part 3. :mrgreen:

Posted September 16, 2012 8:18 pm 


I don’t think it’ll be a deal breaker because now Chavez Jr. and crew have to try and get Martinez to go along with a rematch.. I think they’ll try to buy Martinez into going along with the rematch but will definitey try to convice Martinez that there shouldn’t be any Weight Restrictions or Mandatory Blood testing.. It’ll be tough for Martinez because the Money will be so huge… and at Martinez’s age he has to make as much as he can… while he can…

Posted September 16, 2012 8:16 pm 


In an Ironic Kinda way this was Karma Making things right decades later.. too bad its too late for Meldrick taylor…

Posted September 16, 2012 8:13 pm 

prof konje

DiBella is sounding more and more like Arum. If that rematch were held in Texas, Martinez would lose even before he got into the ring. The WBC would make sure the judges were hand picked. The ring would be small. If Chavez wants to fight, let him fight a super middle or a light heavy weight. I would be more interested in seeing Alvarez fight Cotto and Martinez fight Pacquaio. Or maybe Martinez and Alvarez. Chavez jr. is out. He was exposed for the over-weight bully that he his. Rematch?? Ha! Only a sucker would pay for that.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:11 pm 


don’t waist your money

Posted September 16, 2012 8:08 pm 


Who deserves this rematch? Bob Arum, Top Rank?? Boxing fans don’t deserve it, and most probably don’t want it, besides crazed fans that hope to see Chavez land another punch once Martinez decides to stand and trade.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:04 pm 

Ruslan Pateev

I think Troy Ross merits and is much more deserving of a rematch with Yoan Pablo Hernandez than Chavez jr. with Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:04 pm 


Wow kind of disappointed wanted bigger fights in floyd,canelo, or cotto but they probably wouldn’t accept anyways.Make it happen i guess.Sergio will prove it was no fluke by putting another clinic shutting these jr fans up if ever.Another whooping that’s what they’re crying for lol,don’t be surprised if it’s jr the one kissing the canvas this time.I expect arum the & the wbc to allow jr to come in at 200lb this time.He was reportedly 185lb+ plus on fight night & refused to weigh in.

Posted September 16, 2012 7:59 pm 


This is how cesar Chavez VS Meldric Taylor should have ended

Posted September 16, 2012 7:48 pm 


a second weight limit is a deal breaker

Posted September 16, 2012 7:40 pm 


Now I would pay to see that line up!

Posted September 16, 2012 7:19 pm 


As much as I like to make fun of Chavez Jr. it was a very exciting night of Boxing because of the Buildup and Martinez deserves some big paydays.. also, as one sided as this first one was the knockdown at the end does bring in the element of “what if” and it would also give Martinez the opportunity to make another huge money fight but Martinez need to demand some conditions like a cap on the amount of weight Chavez Jr. can put on over night post weighin and he should demand a much bigger piece of the pie compared to the first fight… he should also demand that the fight be in Vegas and not in Texas.. Texas just has had too many Robberies over the past few years… Chavez jr. tried almost felt sorry for the kid who obviously is just trying to be like his dad but like so many Juniors out there it’s almost always impossible… We shall see what unfolds…

Posted September 16, 2012 7:10 pm 


thats what happens when u get protected like chavez,his promoter never put him in with a good fighter and that backfired,even though canelo has faced old guys but they were ex champs like cintron and mosley,that still helps somewhat and chavez really got anything like that,plus canelo looks different too,better all around skills,as far as the rematch,well i think martinez will take it in a heartbeat,i mean who else is he going to fight that will make him millions? easy fight for him and since he’s up there in age i’m sure he’s thinking of his future too,all boxers would take a fight like this if they felt it was easy money

Posted September 16, 2012 7:03 pm 



Posted September 16, 2012 6:55 pm 


Sergio vs mayweather! Saul vs cotto!! Let pavlik vs water head Chavez jr

Posted September 16, 2012 6:47 pm 


True that hookoffthejab…No thanks! Sergio schooled water head Chavez Jr…. Sergio got injured because he couldn’t miss the slow and no boxing skill. Top stink ,Bob arum and the dirty WBC can eat a dic%

Posted September 16, 2012 6:44 pm 


Boxing deserves Martinez vs Mayweather. No rematch until this happens! :^)

Posted September 16, 2012 6:40 pm 


no boxing deserves much more than this .. :grin:

Posted September 16, 2012 6:34 pm 

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