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KnucKled Eye

So the ballarina never landed real punches? Again, everyone and their mama knew Martinez was going to move, that was the only way he could have fought Chavez. You my friend probably never got into the ring, if you have, you would realize that a fighter never fights to his opponents strengths, that’s why Sergio moved. If Chavez and Roach were worth a damn, Chavez would learn how to cut the ring off more effectively, he didn’t and got outclassed, deal with it.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:52 pm 


Martinez got destroyed by bum Margarito which Manny destroyed. How’s that?

Posted September 17, 2012 10:31 pm 

Dr. Bill

All the anger in many of the previous comments bothers me. Chavez is clearly a courageous, stylistically limited, but powerful fighter. He is good: he has been the fighter who has come closest to defeating Martinez since the first Paul Williams fight – which was extremely close and hard to score. Martinez, by contrast, is a great fighter who got caught. His body may be breaking down from age, as “Love the Sport” claims. Well, that does happen and Martinez may not have many more years. I think that Chavez’ loss to a great fighter is no shame, that if he stays determined he can improve, and if so will remain a contender and may well become a title holder again.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:25 pm 


NO technical difficulties for Sergio… The problems with technique were plentiful, and all in Julio’s game… The story line should go, “Martinez wins because of Chavez’s technical difficulties.”

Posted September 17, 2012 3:37 pm 


if Chavez jr doesn’t like chasing smaller guys maybe he should grow a set of Balls and go fight guys his size like Andre Ward, Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Miranda, etc etc etc… Oh but he already said he won’t fight guys his size because he may get hurt.. LOL

Posted September 17, 2012 12:16 pm 

Jake Lead Rights

Chavez earned his biggest payday, $3 million guaranteed, while Martinez got $1.4 million plus a percentage of the pay-per-view sales

Posted September 17, 2012 11:10 am 

Jake Lead Rights

LMAO!!! Anyone that calls Sergio a Balarina doesnt know boxing. Sergio gave the young man a boxing clinic to say that Sergio was dancing would mean that he ran all night and had no offence. On the contrary Sergio moved from side to side and led with jabs and followed with straight lefts to the mid section and to the head. If you had paid any attention you would’ve heard the Chavez camp mention Sergios strategy and how he fights they knew his strategy coming into the fight and yet the slow lumbering Chavez couldn’t keep up. The kid showed heart and but ultimately got hit way too many times. Anyone that knows anything about boxing would know that Chavez didn’t get beat by a slugger he got beat by a boxer.

Posted September 17, 2012 11:00 am 


SUre, he is very “beatable” You just need to bring an AK47 with you…

Posted September 17, 2012 9:57 am 


Pacquiao was owned by Marquez twice (Marquez robbed), once by Morales. He ain;t that good.

Posted September 17, 2012 9:55 am 


A fighter in his young 20s has to CHASE a man close to 40 that is SAD Martinez does not run he uses movment.I have seen todum poles with better head movment that Chavez and he is NO powerpuncher he is a young strong kid.Now if he faced a Carl Froch he would find out with power is he will not last in the super middleweights that is abudint with talent how much longer can he starve down to 160 that in it self will be a problem in every fight.

Posted September 17, 2012 9:53 am 


A HOF named Roy Jones Jr said that he looked like at least 190 in the first round. Lampley and Kellerman can be fuzzy, but RJJ usually knows what he talking about. Also why didnt Jr want to step on the scales, he had done it for all his previous fights.

Posted September 17, 2012 6:03 am 


The only reason that JCC landed his punches in the 12th is because Sergio decided to trade with him. He didn’t have to trade with a guy 20lbs heavier than him to win. He could have just pot shot him all night and win every round on points. That is exactly what his strategy would be in a rematch. It would be a boring boxing clinic.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:33 am 

Don Quixote

You must like hit and hold and hold and hit style, ala Bernard Hopkins….

Posted September 17, 2012 1:48 am 

Don Quixote

Is your middle name Stevie Wonder?

Posted September 17, 2012 1:46 am 

M. Mendoza

Martinez won the fight like a true champion; that’s all that should matter to him. Ali and other great boxers had their moments but they always came back to the real fold of things. That’s exactly what Martinez did. Had the shoe been on the other foot, there would have been dozens of articles singing the praises for Chavez Jr. Therefore, Martinez deserves the same volume of praises — even though he’s NOT the son of one of the greatest boxers in history.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:03 am 

Ambrosio “One-Man-Show” Delgado

I like this article. It is one of Paul Strauss best writings.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:35 pm 

Chicago guy

The ballarina said that the fight will end short but when he realized that he can’t knockout JCCjr, he switched to hit and danced tactics like ballarina just to earned points.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:16 pm 

Chicago guy

Martinez is skilled like hit and run “BALLARINA FIGHTER”. JCCjr. was the cat chasing the ballarina all 12 rounds.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:12 pm 


Exactly! P4P refers to SKILLS not weight. Martinez is ranked Top 3 P4P because he is one of the most SKILLED Fighters on the planet. And Chavez Jr. is ranked at #0 because he’s not.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:51 pm 


Martinez is technically sound — but he’s 37 and his reflexes are slowing.. He’s had a lot of fights and his only stoppage loss was probably aided by plastered wraps when he fought Cheato over 12 years ago.. I don’t think you get to 37 and 54 professional fights without being stopped, when your chin is average, if you’re technically flawed.. Boxing with your hands down is not a flaw, it’s a style. A boxer with his rear foot pointing sideways at a 90 degree angle, like Berto, Calzaghe, or Williams is flawed because he can’t throw straight punches very well. A guy who pulls straight back from blooping shots instead of dipping under them, like Ali and Khan is flawed. A guy who bends his knees too much, and clomps around the ring in the same exact rhythm, like Jermain Taylor, is flawed. A guy who telegraphs his jab and can’t duck under a punch, like Chavez Jr, is badly flawed …. I don’t see any glaring flaws in Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:47 pm 


Why is anyone comparing Martinez/Chavez Jr. to Chavez Sr./Taylor? WTF? What does one have to do with the other? Oh, I know. Jr. is Sr.’s son. LOL! You lame asses. Especially you Zurdo. Geezuz! Moron!

Posted September 16, 2012 9:18 pm 



Posted September 16, 2012 9:15 pm 


Who told you Jr. weighed 190? I remember big mouth Lampley or maybe it was the other dork Max Kellerman who insinuated that Jr. weighed 190 but the results of the fight night weights were not revealed. So, I’m wondering where you got your info?

Posted September 16, 2012 9:15 pm 


Yeah, and I still think Jr. cheats to make weight.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:12 pm 


Who is “very beatable?” Martinez? Since when? Please tell me who beat him last and when. Martinez lost a debatable decision to Williams in 2009 and before that hadn’t lost since 2000. “Very beatable?” Mayweather is “very beatable” the guy is undefeated! What don’t you understand about that?

Posted September 16, 2012 9:11 pm 


OH, here goes the P4P BS. LOL! Has nothing to do with P4P. One fighter was simply better than the other. That’s it. Besides, they fought in the same weight class, remember?

Posted September 16, 2012 9:08 pm 


The result was no surprise. Martinez is #3 P4P and Chavez Jr. is #0 P4P. That usually results in a BLOWOUT.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:04 pm 


I saw the fight, and gues what Martinez won. He gave Junior a lesson, he beat the crap out him, so what Martinez got knocked down on the 12, he got up and was still whooping Junior. Martinez was getting tired and was caught with an well timed punch. To all my Mexicans,Junior will never be Julio Cesar Chavez, he will be Junior. His first real test, and he failed.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:47 pm 


Nobody said he deserves a rematch the point was he can get hurt,is human & very beatable.Undefeated doesn’t make you unbeatable far from it actually.Look at the the 3 greatest ever to most Robinson,Ali,Armstrong all great legends who fought anybody & everybody lost but beat most.No excuses on drug tests,money issues,size difference ect.Floyd & pac like most of boxing are far from that.2 good fighters that if they step up & fight dangerous fighters will eventually lose.Marquez put a boxing clinic if not the last 3 with pac definitely the last 2. Do i think floyd will ever fight Sergio?idk probably not too risky.He didn’t fight Casamayor,Kostya Tszyu in their prime why would he fight the most dangerous fighter out there right now asides from ward who towers floyd in terms of size not skill.Makes no sense for floyd to fight Sergio unless he want’s to prove he’s the best which i highly doubt he wants.He’s all about that green & been fooling 90% of these idiots,not calling you one but most

Posted September 16, 2012 7:51 pm 


I guess mosley deserves a rematch with fmj cuz he almost knocked out fmj on the 2nd. Who cares he got his ass kicked for the other 11 rounds, but the single 2nd round is enough to give him a rematch.

Posted September 16, 2012 6:48 pm 

The Mad Scientist

It doesn’t matter if Chavez Jr deserves the rematch or not, Sergio is the one who needs to catch heat if he takes the fight not Jr..if Chavez Jr’s 12th round dramatic ending is enough to keep his supporters believing in him weather they know boxing or not so be it..the kid is not going away as easy as some would like for him to haters make me laugh..Lol! Last night was suppose to be the kid’s death sentence according to so many here and since that didn’t happen they now have to reschedule their agendas with the guys at 168 hoping one of them can finally make Junior disappear from the boxing scene..Chavez Jr’s 12th round alone along with the fact that he was never stunned or hurt in any moment in the fight is already an accomplishment many thought he wouldn’t achieve.

Posted September 16, 2012 5:16 pm 


Couldnt have said it better.

Posted September 16, 2012 4:44 pm 


Actually Chicken Jr weighed around 190 meaning he weighed about 25 pounds more. Wow what a macho tough man. I bet he wants to fight the ladies champion now to show his HEART :sad:

Posted September 16, 2012 4:40 pm 


Agree TOTALLY. Jr is a bum/bully beating up on smaller guys when he should be fighting at Super MDW or even LHW, but guess what, they will KILL HIM and he know it. Having him fight someone like Froch or even Abrham is like a death sentence. And this lil punk bully knows it.

Posted September 16, 2012 4:32 pm 


Did you see Chavez junior pic after the fight? He looked like freaking Rocky balboa after his first one against APollo Creed. The big Mex boy got his ass kicked, his pride smashed, his reputation tarnished. only reason he was not KO in the 6th or 7th is that he got the size of a cruserweight and a pretty good chin. but he took a lot of punishment and was exposed for what he is, an oversized B level fighter.

Posted September 16, 2012 4:23 pm 

Exiled Yank

I agree totally.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:52 pm 


I said it before — Jr is in a tough spot. He’s killing himself to make 160 and would not, now ca not, beat the champ — Martinez. Jr now should likely move up to 168, but he’s almost defenseless and lacks a decent jab. So how is Jr’s ‘hit-me, I’m-a-punching-bag’ defense going to work against the bigger, 168-pound guys like Ward, Froch, Kessler, etc., who will be much better able to take his punches and retaliate with bigger bombs of their own?

Posted September 16, 2012 3:37 pm 


I’d like to see JR step up to Super Middle where he belongs and fight Pavlik or Abraham.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:22 pm 

Daly jr

Chaves needs to move up to smw. He looked dead at the weigh-in. Id love to see him in with Froch. Chaves aint smart enough to move backwards or side to side. Froch would give him brain damage. Or put him in with the alci

Posted September 16, 2012 3:20 pm 


What does it take to shut these fat cheating hype job snake lovers up??? Chaves got battered!!!!!! He landed a few decent punches on ‘an old man’ who was probably exausted from dishing out a beating on a man 15 years his junior. A man who has hit the deck in the past. What can chaves take from this fight?? He went 12 rounds with the champ!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 3:17 pm 


Well, we’ll get the injury report within a couple of days, if there is one.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:15 pm 


Couldn’t stand up to weight drained junior? Even after getting knocked down (thrown down actually, if you watch the replay) in the 12th round, Martinez fought back and actually outpunched Chavez. As for your cheating hypothesis, what are you pissing about? Martinez didn’t use illegal handwraps. Get over yourself.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:14 pm 

te tumbo

for someone whose neutral you sure are obsessed with my “nationalistic heart”. how bout we agree that i won’t question your Swiss knowledge of tennis and you don’t dare question this “Mexican’s” knowledge of fighting. now, buy yourself a raspado and cool down a bit.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:10 pm 


Somebody need to check Martinez’s handwraps. They need to test that cheat too. He gets faster and stronger but older??? But he still couldn’t stand up to weight drained Junior. so they probably will have the rematch.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:06 pm 


Yes. Good thinking. Except for the problem that no body can beat Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:00 pm 


If Chavez had courage he would come in at the same weight at Martinez. He has no courage. He wants the 20 pound weight advantage. I agree with you. If there is a rematch, Chavez might in fact knock out Martinez. But he is 20 pounds heavier and 15 years younger. Why doesn’t Chavez show some courage and agree to a same day weight? Let’s agree on 165 or 168 or even 170. Why don’t you show some courage and say that you are not afraid to see what Chavez can do at a same day weight of 170? Or you can’t do that because you know what will happen. Chavez will get beat like a gutless bully.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:59 pm 


Bob – Chicken Jr’s face looked as busted up as MargaCheato did vs Paquaio at the end.. A one Eyed, Swollen Bloody mess.. How do you think Chicken Jr’s sustained all that damage? Bleeding from the Nose, Mouth, Swollen Eyes, Cheeks, etc etc etc.. Chicken Jr. got his ASS Kicked and he was hurt as OLD MAN Martinez promised… and he won his title Back.. lets see what Chicken Jr does next.. lets see if he grows a set of Balls and takes on guys his true size like Andre Ward who has already said he’d love to fight Chavez Jr…

Posted September 16, 2012 2:57 pm 


This is an example of egocentric thinking and nothing more. JCCJr. has no more chance in a rematch than he had in the fight he just lost.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:56 pm 


This fight was not about skills. It was about weight. Chavez outweighed Martinez by 15-20 pounds. Post-fight reports are that Martinez broke his hand and tore his knee. Who knows if this is true. But if it is true — it is not surprising. Martinez was winning the fight but was breaking down from all the movement required to stay away from Chavez for 11 rounds. It was exhausting. Martinez is a sharp puncher — but his is not heavy handed and he does not have great power. So, Martinez was stinging Chavez but he was not wobbling him or punishing him to the body to the point where Martinez could get a stoppage. After 11 rounds (33 minutes) of bobbing, weaving, moving, popping and getting out — Martinez was getting very tired and worn down and what few shots Chavez did connect with over 11 rounds had 2x the effect because of the weight behind the punches and the pressure of needing to keep moving for 11 rounds. So, I believe that Martinez did break his hand on the much bigger man and did tear his knee — I actually think they banged knees together in the 10th round and Martinez hit the floor on what was called a slip but took an unusually long time getting up. Bottom line. If Chavez and Martinez weigh the same (165?) then this is a different fight. Chavez has less power to hurt Martinez. Martinez does not need to move as much and the power Martinez has would hurt Chavez at the lower weight. If there is a rematch there should be a same day weight requirement at 165 or 168 or even 170. It should be a fair fight. Even though Martinez wins this fight last night — it was not really fair. He had too work very hard against a much bigger fighter.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:54 pm 


Bob – Chavez Jr lost 11 1/2 rounds, how on earth to you think it should’ve been a split decision? don’t you know how boxing is scored??? LOL Chicken Jr. fought like a drunk club fighter winging slow non-effective shots.. as Martinez connected all night long.. it’s called Boxing not Tough Man Contest… Floyd Junior is P4P #1 and he does not Brawl with his opponents.. he out Boxes them.. just like Martinez Out Boxed Hype Job Chicken Jr…

Posted September 16, 2012 2:54 pm 


What happened Martinez? You said you were going to knock him out?
The fight should have been a split decision. Both got banged up. Martinez is
not as good as he thinks and Chavez, jr. is not as bad as some thought.In
the rematch Chavez, jr. will stop Martinez!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:51 pm 


Chavez’s face will tell you hit more than he ran.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:48 pm 


I’m not defending Chavez he lost this fight,I personally prefer to watch two fighters with skills stand up to each other.He lost 11rd,because he was not abel to stop this guy from running around the ring like a tract star. I don’t think Martinez has a lot of skills. To me is not a P4P fighter

Posted September 16, 2012 2:42 pm 


Chavez Jr’s stellar performance last night proves he’s ready for Andre Ward, Chad Dawson, Arthur Abraham, Calzaghe, etc etc.. he’s not doubt the best Boxer Mexico has today… Wha???? ROFLMAO X-POSED…..

Posted September 16, 2012 2:34 pm 


I told you guys exactly how thi fight would go and it did. Chavez jr was pathetic and so one dimesional. NO REMATCH PLEASE! Chavez will get beaten up worse. Arum and the other slime bag are already talking rematch. Arum said in the post fight conference that his friend Jerry Jones wants it in Texas stadium. Hmm…….These crooks see all the Mexican fans along with Argentinian fans flocking to see this fight, and Arum ees big money coming his way. These promoters are a big joke and prey on fans emotions epeciaally when it comes to the latino cultures. Why would Chavez jr, deserve 3 million plu? He was pathetic. Martinez did what he said he would do and made him lookfoolish. A rematch would be worse and jr. would get killed literally. I hope no one would pay to see this again. The Canel vs Lopez fight card was much better, and it was free.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:32 pm 


He shouldn’t have been Rabbit punching all night long…

Posted September 16, 2012 2:32 pm 

The Assassin

Hit & Not get hit is the sweet science.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:28 pm 


good for u that u allways find a way to escape the truth that u don’t understand boxing the guy is a bum he got outclassed ,if it would be reversed u would write how much chavez had heart and martinez got a lucky shot ,this is what makes ufc and boxing fans so stupid u think with ur nationalistic heart because somewhere deep down u must feel bad from where u from ,i am from switzerland embrace everybody we have the best tennis player never make stupid excuses if he looses ,if it wouldn’t be so hot in a la i wouldn’t waste my time with people like u i just wished all u jokers would put ur money where ur mouth is go broke and that will take care of itself but ur to coward instead u come here and beeing a keyboard warrior so am i today but martinez showed what a great warrior he is broken hand bad knee and still got up but like i said u can’t understand that !!!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:27 pm 


it also resulted in Chicken Jr. getting humiliated in front of his home crowd, father and girlfriend.. It also resulted in Chicken Jr’s ending up looking like MargaCheato vs Paquiao… it also ended up proving Chicken Jr. has ZERO boxing skills and only stands a chance vs much smaller guys he can wear down with his size… Chicken Jr. was shown to be nothing more then a C leve Club fighter with ZERO boxing Skills… the only Reason Martinez got caught with two Chicken Jr. shots in Round twelfth was because Martinez got Careless but even so a 180+lb Plodding Cruiserweight could not take out a 154lb 37 year old Martinez.. hardly a good showing by the over hyped Chicken Jr….

Posted September 16, 2012 2:27 pm 



Even when Chavez had Martinez on the ropes or was up close, Martinez beat him to every punch 3-1 and spun him like fat, two-left-footed ballerina.

Martinez put on an exhibition for 11rnds and stuck Chavez firmly in his place!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:21 pm 


Martinez won 11 rounds. Clearly there is a skill difference and JCC was putting his hopes in the good old “puncher’s chance”. No skill and no hard work… Just corner him (when you can) and swing as hard as you can. Also, GGG would lay JCC out!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:18 pm 


then chavez will be more open and it is over bro sergio took his punch all night long everybody can get caught!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:18 pm 


golovkin chin hasn’t been tested so relax a fighter is only as good as his chin!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:16 pm 


sugar ray robinson is hit and run ali is it hit and run roy in his best hit and run ur a idiot!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:15 pm 


The reason way pac in a P4P is he fights when he’s in the ring . I don’t like the Hit & RUN style .You never seen this in the old days. These guy would had been called BUMS. Can’t fight on the inside ,because hey have no skills. They should create a sport for people like Sergio And Khan .( HIT & RUN ) See who can hit the most and run around the ring the fastest .

Posted September 16, 2012 2:06 pm 


Chavez Jnr is so overrated it ain’t funny!

Got battered for 11 rounds straight and people have the balls to slap his back because he caught Martinez in the 12th round?

So what!

Chavez was outclassed every step of the way, from the moment they signed the fight, to the post presser this morning!

Martinez proved he’s up there with the best P4P and his performance was second to none!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:53 pm 


Martinez will want no part of Golovkin. Risk reward is too outrageous and he would have a better chance to outpoint Chavez again next time and make three times more then fighting a monster like Golovkin.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:53 pm 

swamp gas

master class by Marvillala, BUT his being knocked down shows
he’s human. don’t need a rematch. let chavez fight in his right weight class and be humbled permanently.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:51 pm 


This is what happens when a man fights a boy

Posted September 16, 2012 1:49 pm 

Billy Bob

JCC won the battle (the 12th) Garcia won the WAR (The fight overall). The writer does not like Sergio. Pretty obvious. The first 11 was complete dominance and the fact that he got up in the 12th and kept trading says a lot about him. In a rematch, pending JCC Jr making weight, I give the nod to Chavez. He will attack much earlier and KO Sergio. But thats just my opinion.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:41 pm 


You’re right, Roy Jones doesn’t belong. :mrgreen:

Posted September 16, 2012 1:40 pm 


Admittedly, Golovkin would have put Martinez’s lights out had he landed that. That really ought to be the next fight.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:38 pm 


Sure let them rematch but Martinez will be able to call the shots in this one, like getting more money than the challenger not like this one and maybe a second weigh in on the day of the fight and put a limit on how much he weighs fight night. If not there’s plenty of good options for Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:38 pm 


All Chavez proved is the stamina to still land a hard shot late. Good for him, but the SMW division will humble him as the MW division showed him to be only above average.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:37 pm 

The Prince

First article by Paul I agree with. Martinez dominated like most people predicted and easily won 11 or the 12 rounds. However, that !2th round saved him for being a complete hype job, since he almost pulled of what his father did all them years ago. Thank goodness the ref in the fight was honestly doing his job. And thank goodness the judges also did their job that night and scored the right for Martinez. Chavez Jr. lost, but he saved his stock in the boxing world and rather you like him or not, people will be ready to watch his next fight.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:29 pm 


Too bad they didn’t have Nasim Richardson around for Chavez Sr. against Meldrick Taylor what a shame.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:29 pm 

te tumbo

i think Julio Jr. has put a serious dent in Sergio’s gas tank. he’ll have to tap in to his reserves in a rematch. also, Chavez Jr. compelled Martinez to resort to Plan B, which did not feature any KD or KO punches. nonetheless, Chavez Jr. will have to get better but it will have to be more of the same, i.e., heavy and unrelenting pressure, but if 160lbs is compromising his ability to bring more? i don’t know how he’s going to do it. anyway, he may not be able to also neutralize Martinez’s speed, mobility, and ring-smarts but i do still believe in his ability to earn an upset v. an increasingly ringworn Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:18 pm 


For a man his age, Martinez did very well. He is not in his physical prime anymore and not getting younger. Chavez caught a very well conditioned guy who still was tired of all the work (punches thrown) he had to do.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:09 pm 

te tumbo

pre-fight guarantees of Martinez manhandling and outpunching Chavez Jr. resulted in 900+ punches thrown and a bloody and stunned Martinez still having to get up off the canvas –Twice– to fight for his life in the 12th and final round. if a rematch will make Money, the rematch will happen.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:03 pm 


I think GGG wud KTFO Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:57 pm 


Martinez vs GGG to find the true best middleweight on planet earth Bring it on!!!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 12:56 pm 


Maravilla put on a masterful boxing performance.His plan was to box and move, to land punches and then move away from danger. He got away from that plan in the last round but up to round 10 , I had him pitching a shutout , he was smacking Junior from every angle. I don`t think that Junior had a plan and if he did it was nullified by Maravilla`s skills,guile and movement.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:50 pm 


Martinez was hit but he was off balance and he went down, it wasnt the power of the shot it was Martinez off balance,oh dear to you son.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:47 pm 


watch the replay son.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:42 pm 


Almost, but it wasn’t to be.Domination by Sergio and i give Chavez credit for the will he displayed but Martinez showed his champion’s heart,getting up and refusing to hold.He went toe to toe when hurt and finished strong!

Posted September 16, 2012 12:40 pm 

Tomato Can

I too think Martinez is/has been vulnerable, which is why I gave, the bigger, Chavez Jr. a chance. I would give him about the same chance in a rematch. Sergio, won’t be getting any younger, and Jr. will probably be getting better. But, the way Chavez has to take off the weight to fight at 160, can’t be good in the long run. He’ll surely have to leave the 160 pound division soon. The thing is, will he leap frog 168, in order to avoid the stiff competition? Still the same, I don’t care to see the rematch.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:29 pm 


Sergio dominated from the opening bell then foolishly almost let the fight slip away when he foolishly decided to stand and trade with Chavez jr., Sergio is simply too fast for the slow Chavez jr. and there is no need of a rematch .Congrats ! to Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:28 pm 

flash knock down

Ali, Roy Jones Jr.Sergio Martinez which name does not belong here? Shame on you.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:23 pm 

te tumbo

it was more than a single KD. it was the desired outcome of the Chavez Jr. fight-plan all-along. it’s what everyone (including Team Chavez) inSisted was the only way Chavez Jr. could pull off the upset and he almost Did. IMO, he could’ve begun to efffectively ratchet-up the pressure as soon as the 5th but he didn’t and Martinez dominated throughout. nonetheless, the designated fight-plan always prescribed unrelenting pressure to bust Martinez’s pipes, gut, and heart and it almost Did.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:23 pm 


No rematch for Chavez. The knockdown isn’t enough to merit one. He’s grossly over the weight limit and some people want to make it a big deal because he scored a knockdown.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:15 pm 

prof konje

KOrnerman is correct. One of those Chavez “punches” was a cuffing shot that Sergio off balance. It was NOT a clean punch. Also, Sergio moved and danced for 12 rounds and he was tired. That’s the only reason he was knocked off of his feet. Remember, this is boxing, not street fighting. Anyone who leads with his face is stupid. The object is to hit and not get hit-very simple.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:13 pm 

te tumbo

i’ve always believed that Martinez is vulnerable to fatigue and/or despair. Chavez Jr. simply kicked-it-up too late due in no small part to Martinez’s brilliant sniping and pot-shotting performance. IMO, 160lbs is compromising Chavez Jr’s. strength but unless he got noticeably stronger, he’s definitely out of his league up at 168lbs. hence a Cinco de Mayo rematch v. Martinez at 160lbs. at most, a tune-up in between, which is a disadvantage for Chavez Jr. if he can’t come in stronger and healthier v. Martinez, he’ll be even less motivated for a tune-up. another loss and Chavez is back to plain Jr.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:09 pm 

prof konje

Chavez was extremely lucky that he out-weighed Sergio by at least 20 pounds!! If he had been a man instead of a cheating bully and came in at 160, he positively would have been knocked out. If there is a rematch, and Sergio is in a position to dictate, he should include a clause that Chavez could not come in over 10 pounds of the contracted weight. I don’t understand how people could support Chavez knowing that he beats up on out-weighed opponents and old men. If he insists on fighting at 180+ then he should move up to another division But he won’t and I would bet my life on that. One reason is that he would not have a weight advantage and the second reason is those divisions are loaded with talent all of whom would end Chavez’s career.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:05 pm 


Chavez’s will and strength in the 12th was IMPRESSIVE!! But Martinez proved too fast and too slick, he also showed a champion to get up after being clearly fatigued (and hurt) in the last round. What a performance by Sergio, getting “caught” happens, but the work had been done, his supremacy had been established. On to the next one.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:05 pm 

The Real American Oak

Yes, I agree. If Martinez drops to 145 and J Cesar Cheater Chavez goes to 195. Then maybe. JCC sucks.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:00 pm 

The Real American Oak

B fighter at best. Bully, and cheater.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:59 am 

The Real American Oak

Really? Mayweather, Sugar Ray Leonard, Willie Monroe, Sugar Ray Robinson. They all “disco danced?” YOu are not that smart. Best keep comments to yourself.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:58 am 

te tumbo

Andrade was in no better position after nearly finishing Bute in their bout and that rematch was eagerly anticipated. i anticipate they’ll market this one in the same fashion with the extra jolt of the “Chavez” name in the mix because one question has been settled: Jr. is a Chavez.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:57 am 

The Real American Oak

NO REMATCH. Arum is a crook, and this time Jr. will be allowed to come in at 195. Cheater. Serg shold pursue Mayweather who could’nt handle 5 rounds with Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:55 am 

te tumbo

#3 behind Ward and right above Marquez puts Martinez in some legendary company. that’s nothing to be apologetic about.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:54 am 

Tomato Can

Martinez won the fight easily. Chavez isnt in his league, but there’s no excuse for Martinez getting his bell rung in the 12th. That shouldn’t have happened. Now their going to try and shuve the rematch down our throats.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:52 am 


what a load of crap sergio loses one round out of 12 and should give the guy who only won a ropund a rematch!!! hell no!! jcc jr proved he ain’t on that level.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:52 am 

te tumbo

Chavez Jr. neutralized Martinez’s power left and avoided being put in any serious trouble himself. he cut Martinez and almost K’imTFO but Martinez was a P4P-caliber, pot-shotting master in there. totally neutralizing Chavez Jr’s. offense and effectively executing Plan B, which Jr. simply didn’t bring with him. otherwise, Chavez Jr’s. strategy was always going to be the same: heavy unrelenting pressure until Martinez wilts, folds, and can be punched Out. it ALmost worked in son-of-legendary fashion.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:49 am 


Please stop fooling yourself. JCC was exposed for what he is, a C level fighter that comes in 25 lbs over the official weight limit because he has nothing else going for him except to bulldoze. He was completely outgunned, outsmarted, and out-fought over 12 rounds. He caught Sergio with about 2 good punches in the 12th and Sergio did look hurt, but clearly not enough to bicycle for the rest of the fight because he got right back in there and started throwing shots. JCC is a bum and doesn’t deserve to fight on the elite level…..all his fans are going to hold onto that 12th round as some type of vindication, but the truth is the following:

– He did throw him down in the 12th(i’m not saying he didn’t catch him, but watch the replay)

– Sergio threw 900 punches

– Sergio is a JUNIOR Middleweight

– JCC did not adjust to ANYTHING Sergio was doing.

– JCC doesn’t even look like he takes his training that seriously

Keep him in there fighting tomato cans because that’s all that will keep him looking good…..the audacity that a victory over Peter Manfredo and Andy Lee gets him a fight with Sergio is a joke in the first place.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:48 am 


How can you “beat a guy and beat him badly” when you lose 11 rounds and get a late fight KD and the result is damn near a shut out loss? Having a punchers chance positions Chavez as no better vs Martinez than any MW who can punch this does not address the obvious gap in overall skills…We have seen many fighters suffer a KD only to continue being the BETTER fighter… Marquez has been put down by the likes of Katsidis and buzzed by Diaz only to end up stopping his two opponents because he is the more skilled boxer by a solid margin…

Posted September 16, 2012 11:43 am 


So do you guys still think Sergio Martinez should be ranked at #3 PFP, i think maybe #2 now right after Floyd.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:43 am 

te tumbo

Julio proved that he is a Chavez. Sergio reaffirmed his indisputable P4P status. certainly Chavez Jr. could do better in a rematch if only because he’s put a serious dent in the older Sergio’s gas tank. i’m confident that Chavez Jr. will be able to recover and recuperate in time for a rematch that will be tapping into Martinez’s reserves. a Chavez Jr. win would still be an upset but we’ve caught a glimpse of what it would look like. ultimately, money talks and if a rematch promises to be the most profitable, it will happen.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:43 am 


Why do people think JR can win the fight now? Cus of one fury of punches in the 12th? Martinez was exhausted during that round and thats the only reason Jr was able to get to him. He couldnt have been able to do the same thing in earlier rounds because Martinez would have evaded him. So whats Jr’s plans for the rematch? Wait til Martinez gets tired to finally throw a punch? I think Martinez would be smarter next time to know that he’s winning the fight and he doesnt really need to fight and exchange in the last round. It was a great fight but a rematch would have the same outcome. No need to get your hopes up Jr fans.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:39 am 


KOrnerman: oh dear

Posted September 16, 2012 11:36 am 


I was surprised at times on how easy chavez was able to be hit…he looked like an amateur for 11 rounds, i wanted them to stop the fight. Sergio just got careless the last round and a re-match would result in a greater victory for Sergio….

Posted September 16, 2012 11:35 am 


Chavez was connecting in the 12th true but it was a cuffed shot that he hooked/dragged around Martinez head that actually pulled Martinez down, wasn’t a clean punch.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:35 am 


Sergio also went down due to fatigue; The man threw 900 punches!

Posted September 16, 2012 11:33 am 


One word=Disgruntled

Posted September 16, 2012 11:32 am 


Fair article but a tad one-sided. Martinez was honestly hurt but the man threw 900 punches! Fatigue was also a reason he went down.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:29 am 


How many rounds was offered to the crow, and how many rounds Martinez offered to itself to win the fight? We paid for a really match confrontation not for a danzing style performet.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:29 am 


A-JAX, sheeeeut up!

Posted September 16, 2012 11:23 am 


JCC is capable of winning the fight..but his biggest flaws were showed lat night
1. He starts fights late..Every fight Ive seen it takes til at least round 4 to get his feet under him
2. Training..could you imagine if he had a strict trainging schedule..if he was more HUNGRY he could be THE BEST…im a chavez fan but he needs to come back HUNGRY if he wants to win

Posted September 16, 2012 11:19 am 

christian Novenario

Easier said than done…don’t you think that other fighters had thought that before?

Posted September 16, 2012 11:18 am 


all this Re-Match jibber Jabber based on 1/2 a round in non sense.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:16 am 

the commentator

lol. winning one round out of 12 isnt exactly winning the war isnt it?

Posted September 16, 2012 11:09 am 


JCC junior can beat Martinez, and beat him badly. The mistake most fighters make with Martinez is that they follow him around as he performs his jerky defensive dance. They should stand in the middle of the ring and just angle and turn their bodies to face him. He either has to come in and fight, or run around them like a dog playing with his master.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:09 am 


felt bad for Beltran the point deduction cost him the title.shame.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:06 am 


Best night of boxing in a long time, The Rocky Marinez vs Beltran was my favourite, man what a fight.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:05 am 

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