Politics is all on mayweather. This is what ruins boxing at times. Ortiz fight is perfect example of BS at its best. That should had been a DQ and they hand this bum yet anouther fight. So CAnelo needs a KO to win in VEgas hands down. Problem is the ref protects the bum to much and allows him to hold all night.Posted September 12, 2013 12:56 am
FAIR BOXING JUDGESPosted September 11, 2013 11:19 am
Tark, you guys sound like revisionists show us a copy of the betting slips where you made Millions betting on Douglas?? Get real he was supposed to be a walkover and prohibitive underdog facing a YOUNG Tyson…Upsets happen and that one was hugePosted September 11, 2013 10:10 am
That performance by Douglas is indelibly etched in my memory…I only recently saw it again a couple of years back and it sits alongside LARRY HOLMES vs KEN NORTON and SHAVERS, TYSON vs BERBICK and HOLYFIELD vs BOWE trilogy for Heavyweight fights since the late 70’s that I will never forget….
Two other fights would be BOWE vs GOLOTA II…. I have never seen a man take such a trashing, a beating a shellacking and still keep standing….. BOWE’S problems for many years surely stem from that match and then we had IKE IBEABUCHI vs Tyson’s so-called successor DAVID TUA…. Both men were unbeaten and treated us to one of the best Heavyweight fights we could hope for, breaking all sorts of punch records in the process….
but, soon after THE PRESIDENT experienced mental problems and did some unspeakable things and as far as I am aware is still locked up in a psychiatric hospital somewhere!
But, DOUGLAS IMHO that night boxed BEAUTIFULLY and apart from that beautiful Tyson punch was unstoppable!!Posted September 11, 2013 9:53 am
tj glad im not alone was expected to get some stick for thatPosted September 11, 2013 8:25 am
Mayweather is l0sing this fight via c0rrupt judges and b0xing p0litics.Posted September 11, 2013 7:35 am
Maybe we can get one more sucker punch adventure from Mayweather , ,, hes worth one more.Posted September 11, 2013 2:22 am
Idiot Ernie.., You’re somebody I hate and you’re always going downPosted September 11, 2013 1:56 am
lolPosted September 10, 2013 11:03 pm
Once again agree with tomato can. It’s not Mayeather or pacman that has stopped this fight happening, thank Arum. It’s not a Fluke Mayeather hasn’t fought a guy from top rank since Floyd stopped making coin 4 Arum. This fight won’t happen. Mayeather doesn’t need pacman….On the other hand pacman is pretty much done, he needs Mayeather. Floyd holds all the cards and has so many options. Carralles, Hatton, Judah, Gatti, Ortiz, Guerrero, Alvarez….where they all over the hill? Oops I 4got Marquez who got embarrassed by Money b4 ko’ing Manny…..Posted September 10, 2013 9:47 pm
ERECTAMUNDO, lol we’ve already been down that road. It could happen, but hasn’t Arum already made it clear that there’s no room for other promoters where Pacquiao is concerned? Maybe the fight would happen if Mayweather loses to Canelo and then loses another fight after that, cause at that point he would lose his leverage. But who’s to say, Pacquiao will bounce right back against Rios. Sure he should be favored to win that fight, but at the same time, we don’t know what the effects of that brutal KO loss are yer.Posted September 10, 2013 9:33 pm
Tomato can- hopefully now that Pacquioa has been brutally KO at the hands of Marquez maybe now Mayweather can grow a pair and actually fight Pacquioa. Seriously… make it happen. Marquez already soften Pacquioa up, now all Mayweather needs to do is what he does best not fight a prime fightet and finish off Pacquioa. Might as well….Posted September 10, 2013 9:25 pm
Mayweather has always and is always in shape. Tomato can is correct…. Depends on how the previous fight go’s and who is standing infront of him next.Posted September 10, 2013 9:24 pm
If Mayweather is able to fight his fight against Canelo and come away with an easy victory, then he’ll stand a great chance at getting through 4 more fights unscathed and just maybe undefeated.Posted September 10, 2013 9:12 pm
This fight will be a huge gage to see whether or not Mayweather completes his 6 fight contract. He’s currently the sports best, but he’s no spring chicken. At his age an injury could change everything.Posted September 10, 2013 8:31 pm
I agree…you might actually see Floyd eventually default on his six fight deal if things start to get too difficult for Money May.
Also, thanks for listening, brother!!Posted September 10, 2013 7:59 pm
p.s. GBP promotions wouldnt risk two golden eggs Garcia & Canelo without firm belief one of them could pull it off. canelo personally if i was managing canelo i would wait till next year and have him fight and old and clearly shopworn martinez at a catchweight. this fight dont make sense unless you are in the know. (martinez is still the man but his body is failing him)Posted September 10, 2013 6:53 pm
I was a big Tyson fan, and very worried when he faced Douglas… I had a very bad feeling. It that sinking feeling in your stomach you get when somebody you really like is about to go down. I thought he’d pull off the win because Douglas was a veritable China-Chin.. Even Mike White knocked Douglas out, so I figured Mike would pull it out it out of the fire on sheer talent.
But I knew Mike wasn’t really ready to fight anybody—even Douglas.. Greg Page dumped Mike twice in training camp and Douglas was more skilled than Page. Just a fact. Douglas was great big, strong, fast, and skilled. 6’4″ X 232. He was generally a gutless fighter though … but that night he wasn’t.
Most undefeated fighters who’ve held titles a long, long time are bigger favorites than Floyd is in this fight.. I’m disappointed the odds aren’t a lot longer than they are. Maybe things will get better.Posted September 10, 2013 6:41 pm
“puffy bodied?” Well, get some new glasses then david d, DLH was not “puffy” in his fight with Mayweather.Posted September 10, 2013 5:41 pm
The BEST fighter in the world is EXPECTED to beat EVERYONE till he loses that pretty much how it goes… When Tyson was on top people were NOT sitting around like “tonights the night” then Douglass pulled off a HUGE if not the BIGGEST upset ever… This is boxing, Canelo has the belts, the fight is a BIG seller and a natural piece of business… Thats why its called “Getting a SHOT” you are NOT expected to actually hit the shot but the chance exists… Canelo is facing a 36 year old Floyd Mayweather who is FAR closer to the the end than beginning.. Young Alvarez could not ask for more EXCEPT for FMJ to be even older….Posted September 10, 2013 5:30 pm
David D, who are as good as who? I don’t think Floyd is the best to ever lace them up. I really don’t have an opinion on that because I can’t see the past boxers. They don’t have film on them. They have some film on Robinson but they say that is past his prime. Ali is considered the greatest but I havent seen all his fights from when he was Clay. So I don’t like saying someone is the best ever. But this generation, Floyd is the best.Posted September 10, 2013 4:46 pm
when i step back and look at this fight, makes me wonder what canelo has done to earn his superstardom…ok, he is a champion, but he is hyped as much as he possibly can be, he hasnt shown enough to warrant superstardom………makes me wonder if he hasnt been groomed all along for this fight, a fight that will be easy for mayweather and will look good in the publics eyes against a bigger younger strong undefeated champion and will earn him the biggest payday ever heard of in boxing…….canelo was a long term plan for all involved.Posted September 10, 2013 4:45 pm
Mark my words Floyd can’t possibly do enough to win this fight. Canelo will use his size very intelligently and Floyd will be reduced to running and holding. The judges will favor Canelo in this one. Toosalty are you crazy. No really are you. Trout did nothing but move his hands ineffectively he landed very little of significance.Posted September 10, 2013 4:07 pm
Lets not forget Cottos smaller older C level brother put Canelo on Noodle legs.. and Feather fisted trout had a Gassed Canelo helpless against the Ropes in the 3rd round..Posted September 10, 2013 3:19 pm
Too all of yall Canelo fans, I just rewatched the trout fight. I gave Canelo 2 rds in that entire fight. Either you blind dumb or just stupid if you had canelo winning this fight. Even the rd 7th where trout went down, the commentators said that i should have been a 10-9 rd because trout came back to win the rd.Posted September 10, 2013 2:59 pm
Canelo’s last KO was against Carlos Baldomir, who’s slower than molasses and hadn’t fought in almost a year, Canelo’s TKO wins were against much smaller men who were 1-2 weight divisions below him…he went the distance with a 147lb Mathew Hatton and light punching Austin Trout….that’s NOTHING to prepare you for Floyd Mayweather.Posted September 10, 2013 2:57 pm
Experience is the MAJOR key here, Floyd has TOO much of it, he’s seen it all, Canelo’s best opponent to date is Trout, and we ALL know Trout wouldn’t stand a chance against Floyd….people are banking on the fact that Canelo beat Trout, who beat Cotto, who gave Floyd a tough fight….BUT, styles make fights, Floyd’s style is (and will be) DIFFICULT for anyone, whatever you do best, Floyd will take that away within 3 rounds, Guerrero walked right to Berto (who’s explosive) and let his hands go, against Floyd, he resulted to a flat footed punching bag who didn’t know what to do….Canelo will end up in the same position by the 8th round.Posted September 10, 2013 2:51 pm
SREDMOND – I agree with you 100%Posted September 10, 2013 2:47 pm
Floyds gonna pick Canelo apart the ONLY shot Canelo has is catching Mayweather in an exchange and Floyd knows that… He is gonna be accurate, NOT allow Canelo to set his feet to punch and he will be drilling him with pot shots and ducking under… There is not gonna be a slugfest that would play to Canelos advantages in size and strength which is NOT how Mayweather got to where he is today…Posted September 10, 2013 2:34 pm
If you are proclaiming “Canelo the BEST out there” then you MUST be ready to heap TONS of praise on Floyd Mayweather should vanquish “The Best Out There”…. LMAO! There are probably 10 fighters more elite than Canelo get real… Hes really more vetted than Marquez, Pacquiao, Ward, Mayweather, Klitschko, Donaire and others??? Man pleasePosted September 10, 2013 2:32 pm
Come on PEEJ, just for the sake of appreciating the other billion boxers from around the world this generation….name at least five others who are as good.Posted September 10, 2013 2:27 pm
Floyd is not the GOAT, but he is the best boxer of this generation. The lay offs where good but fighting twice a year may be better because he will have his reflexes and this will give a better chance of actually seeing some combination punching.Posted September 10, 2013 2:23 pm
GONZO OF NAZARETH
Everyone keeps forgetting mayweathers hands are brittle and damaged goods. There is no chance of him knocking out Canelo. I see an early stoppage in favour of Canelo. He’s the best out there and will prove it come SundayPosted September 10, 2013 2:20 pm
Canelo is DEAD meat he’s gonna face the sharpest Mayweather in YEARS a guy who has now been really focused on boxing consistently…Not a version of Floyd going to or coming out of jail… These issues would affect a lessor fighter but Mayweather is simply too mentally strong to allow these matters to overtake him… Bottomline is young Canelo is going to school and its a GOOD thing, he will make some $$$$$ take a beating from one of the BEST ever and learn a few things… Alvarez might have been better served facing FMJ after one of his sabbaticals or definitely catching him in 2 years but the guy who whipped Guerrero, is TOOO SHARP, FAST and FOCUSED…. Might as well pencil in that loss Alvarez…Posted September 10, 2013 1:50 pm
Hidalgo, I did in fact, last night. And what i saw, once again, was a puffy bodied, hairline receding, akward footing, slow reflexes of a poor image of the once lean ripped body, fast handed, excellent stance of a boxer named ODLH…and FMJ still had problems with him.Posted September 10, 2013 1:49 pm
“And this opponent is not the usual fadding or fadded opponent that FMJ has come accustomed to defeating; Gatti, Baldomir, Marquez, DeLaHoya, Mosley, and Cotto…. Good luck Floyd, you’ll need it!”
Oooooh! Hold on there david d. Out of all the opponents Mayweather has faced since becoming a welterweight, Oscar fought him the best. Watch a replay of their fight. You’ll see.Posted September 10, 2013 1:24 pm
New territory for the body and mind of FMJ…this is a major change up for any boxer at his age (36). His last match, he came in very light and moved all 12 rounds, much more than recent bouts. Thus, the recovery from that hard work combined with the training and weight maintaining for this bout, is a new adjustment and already taking FMJ out of his winning formula. But the real challenge is his opponent, a fresh young (23), strong, quick handed and hard hitting, defensively skilled, experienced proven record of 42 (ko’s 30)-0-1, with a ko % of 69.77 in 277 rounds (only 50 rnds less than his senior, FMJ). And this opponent is not the usual fadding or fadded opponent that FMJ has come accustomed to defeating; Gatti, Baldomir, Marquez, DeLaHoya, Mosley, and Cotto…. Good luck Floyd, you’ll need it!Posted September 10, 2013 1:12 pm
Fighters fight. If anything doing more bouts will sharpen him. Maybe he’s starting to feel the difference with age. In your 30s you need to work harder and longer to build into top shape vs your 20s. But if you don’t take long breaks that process is faster.Posted September 10, 2013 1:11 pm
Floyd beat Guerrero 117-111 on all cards… That means he didn’t win 12 of 12 rounds. Guerrero won 3 rounds. If Robert won 3 more rounds it would have been a draw. I scored it 118-110, and actually if Guerrero was threatening to make it close Floyd would have stepped up the pace and taken more risks. As it is, It was a very comfortable win. Floyd did try to hurt Robert but couldn’t. He fought within himself and wasn’t extended … Canelo will extend him to the nth degree.Posted September 10, 2013 1:10 pm
Hidalgo your post about Floyd not fighting enough to be recognized as a goat or even the best of this era is dead on. I also agree that he’s not durable enough to honor his contract with Showtime. In fact i predict Floyd hurts his hand in this fight again.Posted September 10, 2013 12:56 pm
“Jajajajajja….. Robert Guerrero was a solid champion who had held titles in multiple divisions and was rated in the top 3 in the division when Floyd beat him 12 of 12 rounds and had him going in about the 10th.”
Robert Guerrero was nobody as a welterweight. He was the flavor of the month. He’s not even on Ring Magazine’s top 10 P4P list anymore. Why? New flavors have been recognized.Posted September 10, 2013 12:44 pm
Why? Floyd doesn’t like to follow the beat of anyone else’s drum. I’m very skeptical that he will fulfill his six-fight contract with Showtime in the allotted time period.Posted September 10, 2013 12:41 pm
Joseph, Floyd’s infrequent fighting is also another reason why I refuse to acknowledge him as the “GOAT.” The guy just doesn’t fight enough to warrant giving him that title. He has a luxury career. Up until his Showtime contract, and since turning welterweight, he has fought when he wants to. In what other sport can a professional athlete do that? To date Floyd has fought seven times over the last six years. Big damn deal. BTW, don’t be surprised if Floyd defaults on his ShowTime contract before he meets its obligations. I suspect he’ll bail out with an “injury.”Posted September 10, 2013 12:38 pm
“I talked about this very thing on this past Sunday’s show.”
Yes you did, Joe. And btw, I listened to the whole thing. Great show!
Anyways, I think Floyd has greatly benefited from his long layoffs. Too many people look for ring rust because he comes back from long “layoffs” fights once then takes a long break again. I think differently: He’s just not having the normal wear and tear that other boxers do because he fights so infrequently. So, he is able to perform better over a longer period of time. Kind of like driving a car 50K miles a year versus 10K miles a year–the more you use it, the more likely you’re gonna have problems with it. Since Floyd stays in shape while he’s not fighting, it’s much easier for him to fight well. I mean think about it, don’t most of us come back from our vacations rested, with a better attitude, and ready to go?Posted September 10, 2013 12:33 pm
There is one person to beat him. Hes from the Philippines.Posted September 10, 2013 12:32 pm
But the difference here is that he really doesn’t take much punishment and he does not let himself get out of shape which causes fighters to take on that abuse to there body. He is always in shape which will benefit him. I don’t think there will be anybody to beat him if Canelo can’t do it.Posted September 10, 2013 12:14 pm
PEEJ – Exactly!! We see him once a year, and he ALWAYS looks great….now we’re seeing him twice this year, he’s going to look even greater.Posted September 10, 2013 11:53 am
I talked about this very thing on this past Sunday’s show.
You won’t see any residual effect throughout this Saturday night’s fight, but you will start to see more wear and tear around the fifth or sixth bout of the 6 fight showtime deal.
most people don’t realize that fighters suffer from wear and tear through consecutive training camps…not just from damage taken in the fight.
If Floyd continues to fight the best in boxing throughout this final stretch, he will eventually lose in his fifth or sixth outing.Posted September 10, 2013 11:50 am
Zoo The Great
This writer sounds like he wants Mayweather to be slower and weaker. Ain’t gonna happen baby.Posted September 10, 2013 11:45 am
yes it will have an affect. He will be much sharperPosted September 10, 2013 11:41 am
The fight counts he was just a lesser champion.Posted September 10, 2013 11:37 am
maybePosted September 10, 2013 11:31 am
why dont it count eric.. the ghost was a 2 or 3 weight world champ not some mug like you accusing him of being?Posted September 10, 2013 11:08 am
He dosent so we wont know until he trys. His last fight dosent even count.Posted September 10, 2013 10:56 am