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te tumbo

“. . . then the Pacquiao/Marquez quatrain . . .” is ultimately defined by the final showdown that was confirmed to “answer all the questions and remove all doubt – Team Pacquiao*” (lol). it only makes sense that the build-up has been eclipsed by the rivalry-ending, legacy-defining #1 KO in Boxing History. Marquez is Greater. Viva Marquez!

Posted August 10, 2013 2:30 pm 

Old Yank

Kid Blast — At 4:1 I’d be betting on Rios as the live dog too.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:00 pm 

Old Yank

te tumbo — If the final outcome renders all else moot, then the Pacquiao/Marquez quatrain reads 2-1-1 in Pacquiao’s favor! Viva Pacquiao!

Posted August 9, 2013 8:49 pm 

Old Yank

Kid Blast — To be sure I generally agree that fighters typically don’t come back from the kind of icing Pacquiao suffered at the hands of Marquez. But Pacquiao might not be typical. I bet you would agree that the 2nd round icing Hearns scored on Duran in 1984 was every bit as brutal and total an icing as Pacquiao suffered. Duran continued with his career until 2001 — fighting another 36 bouts — including his win 4 1/2 years later over Iran Barkley in a move up from light middle to middleweight. Indeed it takes a special kind of fighter to “get up” after one of those icings, but Pacquiao just might be a special fighter — most of us thought so.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:45 pm 


Been a fan of Manny since he destroyed Marco Antonio Barera. But his style similar to RJJ depends on his fast twitch muscles which deteriorates as an athlete ages and he will be KO’d by Rios in this one. When was the last time Rios was even in trouble in a dog fight? The man loves to scrap. I’m more surprised Rios has been civilized during the promotions knowing how crude he was during the Margocheato vs Manny promotional. It is almost as if Rios is thanking Manny for taking him on the journey to China. I always thought Rios would insult the chinese but he loves them and the country. The chinese could end up liking this guy as their adopted son.

Posted August 9, 2013 7:47 pm 


ted the bull sares kid blast done boxing for years

Posted August 9, 2013 4:12 pm 


EZ fight, easy win for the Pacman

Posted August 9, 2013 4:04 pm 

Kid Blast

People also forget that Rios is no fool in there. His amateur record is exemplary. He knows what he is about. And even a shot Margo jolted Manny to the body.

I like Rio’s chances in this one. I would love to get a 4-1 bet against him.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:31 pm 

Kid Blast

Clottey laid the plan for Rios. Fight inside and use jarring uppercuts to wear down Pac. Make him quit on his stool. I really see this as a distinct possibility. No one comes back from what JMM did to him.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:25 pm 



Posted August 9, 2013 2:35 pm 

Old Yank

Hidalgo — No question Rios can inflict damage; especially on the inside. But is is damn near impossible to deny that his is a game of damage attrition — a willingness to absorb massive punishment under the assumption that he can survive more damage than his opponent. It is a bit of a throw-back style to watch and often a path to marbles of the mouth before the age of 40!

Posted August 9, 2013 12:09 pm 


“Ya’ gotta’ love watching Rios fight — it’s like some crazy warrior episode of Dumb and Dumberer embodied in the same fighter.”

Yeah, Old Yank, but Rios really is a great in-fighter. And he could care less if he gets hit. If he isn’t in a war he isn’t happy. Pac will do well to remember this.

Posted August 9, 2013 10:41 am 

Old Yank

Ya’ gotta’ love watching Rios fight — it’s like some crazy warrior episode of Dumb and Dumberer embodied in the same fighter.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:13 am 


in house fight set up by bob arum lol no juice no win lol

Posted August 9, 2013 12:01 am 

te tumbo

Rios, whose yet to attempt avoiding getting hit by ANY PUNCH, is going to easily adapt and add the single wrinkle of avoiding and countering Thee most predictable left hand in the business. YANK, you’re obviously still under Pacquiao’s* celebrity spell. otherwise, you would no longer be able to ignore the old man feverishly pushing the buttons and pulling the levers behind the curtain. Face It: the Pacquiao* who swept you off your feet was a promotional illusion. the Real Pacquiao* is the guy who struggled to clearly dominate orjust defeat a hobbled Bradley and was FLATTENED by a 39-year-old Marquez.

Posted August 8, 2013 5:29 pm 

Old Yank

So Rios, whose yet to find how to avoid getting hit by ANY PUNCH, is going to suddenly find a way to avoid one of the best left hands in the business? One of the best left hands in the business coming from an angle he’s got no experience avoiding? Bridge please! Te Tumbo, gotta love ya brother, but Rios will eat plenty of Pacquiao left hands…plenty. He will likely eat them with a smile on his face, but eat them he will!

Posted August 8, 2013 4:26 pm 

te tumbo

“So the only thing Rios needs to do is what these guys” underestimated and didn’t adequately prepare for. aside from documented disruptions to his preparation, EVERYbody including Barrera was caught off-guard by Manny’s* speed and Punch. even Marquez initially disregarded it and claimed that it was the primary reason he was decked three times in the first round. he was determined to return the favor but didn’t accurately appreciate the Sting of Pacquiao’s* Left. once he made avoiding Manny’s* Left the centerpiece of his KO fight-plan for IV, he not only Decked Pacquiao* for the first time but also earned the “W” by executing the #1 KO in Boxing History. Eight (8) F’n Years after only being able to box and punch is way to a bloody Draw in I. if only Marquez had abandoned all hope of fair and accurate American scorecards sooner, there would’ve been no need or demand for a III or IV. just like there’s no demand for a V.

Posted August 8, 2013 4:18 pm 

Old Yank

The only thing 54 pros that came before Rios needed to do was avoid one punch too. With names like Mosley, Margarito, Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya, Barrera, Morales, Larios, etc… So the only thing Rios needs to do is what these guys could not? Good luck!

Posted August 8, 2013 3:35 pm 

Old Yank

te tumbo — I was at the Garden when the undercard for Cotto/Margarito was Rios meeting Murray (a fine prospect in 2006, but something less in December of 2011). It took Rios 11 rounds of rock-em-sock-em, one-demensional robots to finly convince the ref to call a halt to the bout. And that was when Rios said f-you to the scales and could not make weight. Pacquiao is not Murray, he’s not Alvarado. I don’t think Pacquiao will look to bam bam with Bam Bam. He will look to win one round at a time on the cards. By the time the night is done, if scores are being added up, Rios CAN’T WIN! If Rios catches Pacquiao, then that’s a different story. And you my old friend need a different story if you are going to come out on top with this pick.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:31 pm 

te tumbo

“If anyone tells you Rios is hard to find and hard to hit . . .” i would respond that it’s irrelevant when all Rios has to do is avoid ONE single punch. That’s-It. if he successfully avoids Pacquiao’s* Left, he’ll win by KO, which we both anticipate is the only way Rios can win. he’s not going to earn a scorecard nod v. Pacquiao* in Asia. he Knows that. EVERYbody in boxing Knows it. Rios will be able to shrug-off any other punch Manny* accidentally lands, which is about the only time that Pacquiao* lands something other than his Left, and BUST Pacquiao* up on the inside along the ropes for the win.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:29 pm 

Old Yank

te tumbo — If anyone tells you Rios is hard to find and hard to hit, I’ll split the proceeds with you on selling them that bridge in Brooklyn. If this bout comes down to counting up the points for 12 rounds, Rios can’t win. The only way I see Rios winning this is by stopping Manny — something in the media era of Pacquiao’s career has only been done once. That once was by the great JM Marquez who clearly always had Manny’s number. Having another fighter’s number happens at times in boxing (I’m sure some informed fans can post a few examples for us). The thought that Rios is going to sprinkle himself with some magic Marquez urine and then find Manny’s number too, is a repeat I doubt we will see.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:13 pm 

te tumbo

bottomline, Manny* is now an open and discredited book. he’s not going to pull-off a Barrera v. Hamed-like transformation. it’s beyond Roach’s ability to train and unnatural for Pacquiao*. IF Manny* miraculously developed a consistent jab with complementary elusive moves, i would concede that Rios is in trouble. otherwise, Garcia agreed to this fight because it will be strength v. strength and Rios will be the bigger and stronger fighter.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:06 pm 

te tumbo

believe Me. Rios is being made keenly aware of the ONLY thing he needs to worry about: Pacquiao’s* Left. everything else is manageable or no threat at all. IF the biggest and strongest version of Rios remains disciplined and confident, Pacquiao* will have no choice but to launch and miss a lot of Lefts while being rocked on his heels by vicious “Bam-Bam” uppercuts. whether Rios decides to counter or lead (and he’ll be doing both), Manny* will have to claim the pocket and fight Rios on the inside along the ropes aka “Bam-Bam’s” playpen.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:02 pm 

te tumbo

“Ding-Ding! Round One”. YANK, there’s simply no point in assessing Pacquiao’s* punching ability using a boxing criteria. Pacquiao* has NO jab(?!). that alone disqualifies him from consideration as a boxer. his southpaw “stance” is simply a wind-up for his power-Left. not a set-up for any master-plan of boxing. of course, i can only Hope and Pray that Pacquiao* once again attempts to display his boxing ability. that scenario would end up as a romp for Rios. however, as always, this will become a punching duel regardless of Team Pacquiao’s* fight-plan. Manny* will fail to execute, begin to get hit, and regress into this one-dimensional punching stance. it’s the ONLY fighting posture that Pacquiao* has been able to master. he has not mastered a single element of what could be considered a boxer’s profile and never mind ring-technician. Both Rios and Pacquiao* are punchers, which is at the core of any success they’ve experienced.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:58 pm 

Old Yank

It’s what Rios can’t see coming until it’s too late that will spell the difference. Damn, everything is backwards. Those southpaws make you think about where the punches are coming from and Rios is not a thinker, he’s a dooer. Dooing when you need to be thinking will cause him to eat a lot of leather. It’s the points man…it’s the points!

Posted August 8, 2013 2:52 pm 

Old Yank

I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade but Rios has faced exacxtly one southpaw in his entire pro career. In his 9th bout as a pro he faced Joel Ortega (11-19 with 15 of his 19 loses coming via KO). The unspectacular Ortega put Rios on the canvas in the first round in 2006. If someone tells me that Rios will have plenty of southpaw sparring partners who can mimic Pacquiao, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them. To be sure, Pacquiao has a mountain to climb in clearing his head of the stunning KO he ate against Marquez. But Marquez has always had Manny’s number and there is nothing to suggest Rios can do anything against a southpaw. I’m going to suggest that facing your true first southpaw challenge in the name of Manny Pacquiao might be a bigger mountain to climb than clearing some cobwebs from your head over a KO loss. I like Manny by UD in this one.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:48 pm 

Supreme Court

Hey Anonymouse,
You can impersonate the Supreme Court all you want, you don’t hae the brain to be successful…
The Highest Court is unique….
Remember this:
” The ship follows the shepherd…”

” C’est l’histoire d’un crapaud qui se vit dans la peau d’une vache…”

Posted August 8, 2013 8:28 am 


Oh oh, somebody discovered Google Translate!

Posted August 8, 2013 7:44 am 

Supreme Court

What a coincidence!
Ariza, Manny Chemical Pacquiao’s “physical conditioner” is fired at the exact moment Pacquiao agrees and signs for Random Blood Testing, a test he had consistently turned down for years!
The World will witness in November, the true Pacquiao, the fighter who scammed the world.
You will see a Pacquiao gassing out… on his bike
You will see a Pacquiao saving energy, fighting 1 min out of 3…
You might see another brutal decapitation…
The key to the fight will be whether Rios is drained or not. Rios is Bigger and he is no weight-drained Margarito …..

“Le Monde assistera en direct a la deuxieme decapitation de l’escroc du siecle: Manny Pacquiao.”

Posted August 8, 2013 7:25 am 

Retard Detector

Whoop, whoop, whoop, Ping!

Posted August 8, 2013 6:02 am 


“Hehehehehe.” You’re still an anal pore.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:02 am 



Posted August 8, 2013 1:13 am 


Crap, I was found out, damn!

Posted August 8, 2013 1:10 am 


PEEJ I love you…
I really do….
I like the way you walk… sorry talk….

Posted August 8, 2013 12:37 am 

Nameless=Supreme Court=Redmond=public enemy


Posted August 8, 2013 12:15 am 


it’s me ernie, you’re a genius.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:30 pm 


Damn Mannys head looks twice the size of Rios …..head ……….

Posted August 7, 2013 10:25 pm 


The Pacman better ride his bike or he is getting knocked out.

Posted August 7, 2013 9:12 pm 


hope arum won’t give us a crap undercard… whose in the undercard anyway??

Posted August 7, 2013 8:19 pm 


Unfortunately folks can only resort to insults which pretty much means they know nothing about boxing.

Posted August 7, 2013 8:15 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

A problem or two for Bam Bam is he gets hit and Manny hits hard…

Posted August 7, 2013 4:33 pm 


Rios looks good at this weight.

Posted August 7, 2013 4:27 pm 

Supreme Court aka The Highest Court aka Nincompoopcide

Peej- you are an utter darelict. plain and simple… your intellect is dissmal. – j’aime l’es menage trois avec l’homme noir

Posted August 7, 2013 3:43 pm 

Kid Blast

MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV , either contribute something worthwhile or stay silent. Thank you for your cooperation.

Meanwhile, I like Rios in this one. I just can’t see how Pac can recover from the effects of that JMM blast out, especially against a madman like Rios who loves to brawl.

This one could come down to stamina.

Posted August 7, 2013 3:37 pm 


I’ll definitely be watching this fight. It should be good for however long it last. Just hope it’s a good undercard

Posted August 7, 2013 3:07 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

Looks to be an action bout, looking forward to it…

Posted August 7, 2013 1:56 pm 


this is another in house fight from top rank we know who gone win this please not watch this one

Posted August 7, 2013 1:20 pm 


This should be good fight.

Rios may have lost his last fight and Manny as well but that doesn’t mean it will be bad fight like some are calling it with “Loser vs. Loser.”

Gatti vs. Ward weren’t the greatest fighters in the world but when yo got them together, WOW, one of the greatest fights in history because of styles.

Posted August 7, 2013 12:03 pm 


It’s funny people are talking about these guys smiling when they are pro athletes that know when to turn it on. They aren’t some tough guy pub fighter who has to put on a mean face for intimidation.

Go back and look at Mike Tyson from the 1980’s and you’ll see a calmer demeanor about him. Even smiling in press conferences and relaxed during stare-downs. Just a few times did he put on a menacing face. It was only when he left Rooney, and hooked up with the other guys, his mentality went from the Catskill Mountains calm/ease hunter, to the street thug crazed looked to compensate for the declining ability and confidence.

Tyson’s intimidation in the 1980’s was more about skill than look. He said it himself years ago that back then, he could remain calm and not say much because he would just look at you full of confidence and just thinking to himself….Yeah, you know what’s coming to you. Smile with confidence.
A Happy Fighter Is A Good Fighter.

Manny’s a calm smiling guy. he is Peter Pan. Happy on the outside and full of peasant rage on the inside. He’ll cut your Pirate throat with a smile.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:58 am 


Amazing how Rios, a guy who has never fought above 140 looks massive next to Manny.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:57 am 

Tyrone Jones

I wonder if Freddy thinks he might finally reap some smack vengeance by scrambling badgerin Brandon’s stubborn brain? Anyway, weird oversights could happen in China so Garcia better be ready with a towel just in case.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:44 am 

Max Emiliano

Manny always smiled on stared down like he is embarrass to fake it, but come to fight time he will explode, he got exploded too by Marquez, but thats make the fight interesting.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:14 am 


Why are they smiling in the face to face? i don´t see challenge

Posted August 7, 2013 10:59 am 


pacquiao vs rio’s is a non event couple of washed up has beens can the hype on this crap “fight”

Posted August 7, 2013 10:57 am 

flash knock down

This was great good to see Manny having a great time with Steven A Smith. Is it me or did Rios seem like a little boy setting up there ? Rios was just going along for the ride not saying very much. Maybe this fight is a lot bigger than Rios thought. I . really don’t know who is going to win this fight based on Rios moving up in weight I am going to go with Manny winning by knock out in the 5th or 6th round.

Posted August 7, 2013 10:13 am 


I FORGOT TO ADD that dear old Buncey would be the perfect face and voice to advertise WAFFLES as he is an expert on that subject abit like GEORGE FOREMAN and the Foreman Grill – a perfect fit!

Posted August 7, 2013 9:23 am 


The Conman
Never thought I would say this……think I have found someone who conducts a worse interview than Steve Bunce.

BUNCEY is okay, he just needs his producer to shout in his ear to stop procrastinating and get to the point! Other than that he’s alright…

In boxing terms he’s like the old gunslinger who can see the target but can no longer pull the trigger!

Posted August 7, 2013 7:20 am 


Damnit I wanna see this fight. However, I really hate the idea of shelling out 70 bucks to see non-champions both coming off losses fight. In addition, top ranks under card fights usually aren’t that high status or competitive.

Posted August 7, 2013 1:27 am 


These dudes are entertaining..I’m not even gonna lie. One loves Floyd and the other hates him…it’s a perfect match when debating. They’re pretty funny.

Posted August 6, 2013 11:27 am 


I guess thats why I come on here and argur boxing with you guys, it better than watching those Dumb F$%Ks. I mean they spent more time talking about FM than RIOS. FM and PAC had and have accomplished a lot even before they should have fought. Its messed up because band wagon rider fan think likes this, everytime you talk about PAC, you have to talk about FM, and everytime you talk about FM you talk about PAC. I hate this.

Posted August 6, 2013 11:23 am 


This is espn first take, they dont conform to the same old boring methodical staged interviews you peasants are accustomed to every day. They’re keeping it real. When was the last time you saw manny laugh soo much? Brings out the human side of both fighters. Gonzo is always right never wrong

Posted August 6, 2013 8:28 am 


Nothing wrong with this interview

Posted August 6, 2013 8:01 am 



Posted August 6, 2013 6:54 am 

David L

I hate when journalists or interviewers make the interview about themselves rather than the subject. it’s so “Look at me, look at me”. So narcissistic, you are NOT interesting or important, keep your opinion to yourself and get back to drawing opinions and thoughts from the subject of the interview….you know the person who we actually tuned in to see.

Posted August 6, 2013 6:23 am 

The Conman

Never thought I would say this……think I have found someone who conducts a worse interview than Steve Bunce.

Posted August 6, 2013 5:27 am 

Harry C

Who’s the douche of a pundit in the glasses?

Sounds like a preacher, PRAISE THE LORD!

Posted August 6, 2013 5:25 am 

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