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Gonzo the Dragonborn – ESB Poster of the Century

That’s two of my comments that haven’t made it through, neither of which were overly blue in tone, the second of which was the cleaner version too. I’m going straight to speak to my good buddies up in admin about this one. I can assure you heads will be rolling over this matter.

Posted January 3, 2013 12:48 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn – ESB Poster of the Century

Ridiculous eh, Hidalgo? Ward is the P4P king of pampered chickens more like. lol

Posted January 3, 2013 12:44 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn – ESB Poster of the Century

Ridiculous eh, Hidalgo? Ward is the P4P king of pussies more like. lol

Posted January 3, 2013 12:43 pm 


Pavlik v Bute is a great fight if Bute accepts it – in a way, it makes sense for Bute as a statement that he is serious about eventually avenging against Froch. If Pavlik wins, it immediately makes him a force at 168. I would not hold my breath though.

Posted December 29, 2012 3:23 am 


pavlik vs abraham is ok

Posted December 29, 2012 2:49 am 


at this time I wouldnt put bute in with pavlik . bute has been koed badly recently by froch . pavlik hasnt been koed at all . Im not saying bute cant out point him but if pavlik koes bute bute is rremember even when pavlik lost his title to martinez he had martinez down. and hopkins just out boxed pavlik but every one elese lost to pavlik

Posted December 29, 2012 2:44 am 


this isnt a good thing for pavlick he missed out on a pay day . ward was going to beat him in a boxing match not eat him . if every one who couldnt beat ward didnt fight him ward . then the only one who would fight ward would be the heavyweights dont forget some very good fighters lost to ward kessler , froch dawson and last time I looked they were still alive the only guy who I know who wouldnt figt ward when he got the chance was dirrel and that doesnt surprise me because I dont think of direll as the most courageous boxer there is pavlik is still a pretty fair figter he has only lost to hopkins and martinez.

Posted December 29, 2012 2:36 am 

Woop Woop

Ward = Scared

Posted December 29, 2012 12:47 am 


“Yet when i click on Kelly Pavlik’ s name at the end of the article which shows EVERY article regarding Pavlik I see NO analysis from YOU that says anything about Pavlik’s lack of head movement…” Wanna bet? Go back and read my posts on the Rosinsky/Pavlik fight. Then the posts before that.

Posted December 29, 2012 12:28 am 


Pavlik is a better defender than Jermain Taylor… He’s a better defender than Mikkel Kessler… He’s a better defender than Arthur Abraham … Ward, Froch, Dirrell, and Rodriquez have a pretty good edge on Kelly overll—and it’s not the right time for him to fight them. But I would take the Bute fight.. Bute is wide open for the straight right and Kelly has a very good one. Bute also doesn’t clinch with great expertise, so there’s a weak point there to work on. With the right sparring and a stellar training camp it’s a fight Pavlik could win. The big areas Pavlik needs to work on are speed, strength, defense, and attitude. He needs to work his ass off and make everyone in his camp a believer. It’s a more fun camp when everyone thinks they’re in with the winner.

I would explore a Bute fight before I would sign to fight Rodriguez … Anytime.

Posted December 28, 2012 6:49 pm 


Yeah yeah yeah Hissydalgo. Yet when i click on Kelly Pavlik’ s name at the end of the article which shows EVERY article regarding Pavlik I see NO analysis from YOU that says anything about Pavlik’s lack of head movement…I THANK you for riding MY coat tail. The MORE people on MY bandwagon the MERRIER.

Posted December 28, 2012 3:37 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Pavlik should consider this a good thing that his fight with Ward is off, because he really didn’t have much of a chance to win the fight.” – I don’t buy that. Pavlik has at minimum a punchers chance against anyone. Most were calling this a shoo in win for Andre but I figured it’d be a good competitive match. The only two guys Pavlik lost to were Sergio and Hopkins, two of boxing’s best.

Posted December 28, 2012 1:27 pm 


“The P4P king. lmfao.” Ditto that.

Posted December 28, 2012 10:37 am 


“Pavlik’s head movement is SO POOR ” Yeah, yeah, yeah, Braggadamus. I’ve said this so many times in other threads. Now you use big letters so you’ll get the credit. LMAO! Putazadamus speaks again! Redundant. But he speaks again. LMAO!

Posted December 28, 2012 10:36 am 


Kelly should go after Bute anyways. No one wanted to see this fight as it would have been a complete shutout. Lands on Bute he might have a chance.

Posted December 27, 2012 11:09 pm 

Ray Ray

Bad luck 4 Ward probs a gd thing 4 Pavlic. Kelly is on borrows time…doesn’t move his head or feet…I think a few of the top guys on this weight would take Pavlic apart. Abraham will bomb him outta there.

Posted December 27, 2012 10:01 pm 


Glad fights not happening joke to begin with.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:44 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn – ESB poster of the Century

The P4P king. lmfao.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:52 pm 

The Kingslayer

Sucks to see the P4P king struggle with injuries in his prime, but at least he doesn’t have to go through with this pointless fight anymore.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:48 pm 


OH I forgot to mention that Froch is MUCH Better than Pavlik I can tell you that much. Pavlik’s head movement is SO POOR that he wouldnt last one Fight with his hands down while Froch has lasted MANY.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:24 pm 


Yes. Ward needs to change something UP. I have noticed that he’s becoming brittle….I predicted that Ward would be GREAT far before he even became a CHAMP. The only thing that can derail that prophecy is injury. He either needs to take his foot off the gas for a while or get a new Strength and Conditioning Coach….he can also just watch how Mayweather trains and take notes. He doesn’t get injured much and stays in GREAT shape.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:20 pm 


No. The question IS do you put Abraham at the same level as the D level opponent that Pavlik just fought?? Because even he was able to hit Pavlik flush. IF he had Abraham’s Power he would have beaten Pavlik by stoppage….Kelly Pavlik is a NON factor in Boxing right now. He has earned himself a name and thats what he’s looking to profit off of. Its pretty obvious….instead of going through the process needed to reclaim credibility he signed to Fight Ward who is #2 P4P and Ring CHAMP despite being not being impressive vs a #0 P4P NON CHAMP….That’s called just looking for a payday…I’ll take Abraham by stoppage.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:11 pm 


Ward needs to ditch Victor Conte… Conte is a great charmer and world class BSer—but so far Ward had to postpone the Froch fight because of injuries and risked losing to Froch—because his left hand shattered in several places during the fight.. Now his shoulder suffers from a mysterious injury that won’t heal on its own, and will require extensive surgery.. Get a clue from all the injuries that have happened to Eddie Chambers, Andre Berto, and Nonito Donaire. Besides having a fight postponed due to injuries Berto tested positive for PEDs. When bad things happen to other boxers who associate with Conte and also start happening to you it’s time to pull the plug … Victor Conte is a walking disaster. There are thousands of experts who know more about nutrition and the human body so hire one … Fire Conte.

Posted December 27, 2012 6:24 pm 

Gonzo the Dragonborn – ESB poster of the Century

OMG!! Is there no end to this pampered chicken’s cowardice? Ducking a shot to piece penniless drunkard who has the liver of a 87 year old Russian vagrant now are we? Scared that Kenny has one big right hand left in him, eh? Pathetic!

Posted December 27, 2012 5:55 pm 


At the end of 2013 the US will have three SM world champions! Ward, Dirrell, and Pavlik! yeah great boxing is back! from a boxing fan of the south pacific …

Posted December 27, 2012 5:27 pm 


If Pavlik’s team have some brains, that’s what they should do:

Feb. 2013: Pavlik / Manfredo Jr
Jun. 2013: Pavlik / Abraham
Nov. 2013: Pavlik / Chavez Jr. or Groves or DeGale

and a big name in 2014 (Ward or Froch or Kessler or Bute)

Posted December 27, 2012 5:19 pm 


Boxtra do you put Pavlik at the same level of Bouadla ???? Really ? even Froch looks like a great technician against Abraham! Pavlik by UD against Abraham

Posted December 27, 2012 5:06 pm 


Pavlik would be stopped by Abraham. He doesnt have the foot speed or head movement to avoid Abraham’s bombs…Pavlik needs to just get a few stoppage WINS to gain some momentum. Last time I saw him he couldnt even stop a D level opponent.

Posted December 27, 2012 2:47 pm 


Pavlik should forget Ward and fight Abraham for the WBO belt, and if TopRank put big bucks Pavlik/Abraham will be in America

Posted December 27, 2012 2:00 pm 


Good news for Bute anyway. Koing Pavlik will definitely improve his chances of regaining a title next yr.

Posted December 27, 2012 12:16 pm 


Too bad about Ward, but Pavlik v Bute is actually a better, more interesting and competitive fight. Bute got caught by Grachev a lot, and Pavlik is much more skilled.

Posted December 27, 2012 11:43 am 


This fight won’t ghappen now… Pavlik will end up pissed in a bar somewhere.

Posted December 27, 2012 10:51 am 


Jesus, and he wonders why he has no fans. Barely 2 fights a year and he still can’t even keep up. Froch, Abraham, Kessler and the rest will all win titles and retire as millionaires and he’ll be left with a record of 34-0 or something still thinking he’s relevant.

Posted December 27, 2012 10:47 am 


Too bad about Ward’s injury though. I really wanted to see him fight Pavlik.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:54 am 


“Pavlik dodged a bullet there.” Really, psy? What did Pavlik have to do with Ward’s injured shoulder?

Posted December 27, 2012 9:52 am 

sweet science

Sorry to hear about Ward’s injury but so glad to hear this fight is off!

Posted December 27, 2012 9:32 am 


As Jim gray beautifully said – ” Andre are you a dirty fighter ” ?

Posted December 27, 2012 9:17 am 


Pavlik dodged a bullet there.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:12 am 


This is good news for Kelly. As much is he is 1 of my favorite all around fighters he was in line for an extended embarrassing beating

Posted December 27, 2012 8:34 am 


I’m a pavlik fan but bute vs pav at this juncture makes more sense anyway. The fight I have been most interested in was arreola vs stiverne heavyweight eliminator anyway. Hbo needs to make this happen by very early feb or I’m canceling my hbo again

Posted December 27, 2012 8:21 am 



Posted December 27, 2012 6:40 am 

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