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IronLife

@SoulBro…It was Vitali who fought Lewis on short notice not the other way around.

Posted November 3, 2012 9:16 pm 


BEARS

That “my wife said she would leave me” excuse was the second or third story to come out. FACT IS vitaly flew to London and met with lennox and his mom and discussed the rematch. Lennox’s mom and Lennox didn’t want none. If you didnt know THE GREAT VITALY KLITSCHKO flew to Londong and discussed things with Lennox personally then you don’t know ANYTHING about the story. Your probably dont know what happened before the fight, during the fight, or what happened either. Your not one for “detail”. As they say the devil is in the detail

Posted November 2, 2012 6:10 pm 


dam

I hope Wach will land clear right hand in early stages so that will afect Vlad for the rest of possibly exciting fight.

Posted November 2, 2012 5:25 pm 


BEARS

You have to use common sense in boxing. Common sense like mike tyson was so past it when he faced lennox it wasn’t funny, the bout was sad and meant little

Posted November 2, 2012 9:49 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, if “NO ONE” is defined by who they beat then why are you trying SO hard to prove that Vitali is GREAT for winning 4 rounds and getting stopped against and ATG?? This is where your feeble powers of argument and Mitt Romney like flip flopping fail you miserably….Sadly for you fighters are judged by who they face, or should we put undefeated Povetkin on par with Wlad?? He has actually faced a couple of MORE relevant fighters during the era than Vitali (Chambers, Chagaev)….But smart people know Povetkin is a paper Champion because he has NOT fought the real champs and won… Your statements are fallacious and contradictory…. “Who you beat does NOT matter” UNLESS its LOSING to Lennox Lewis??? Huh???

Posted November 2, 2012 4:46 am 


SREDMOND

Corrie Sanders became irrelevant for ONE fight and then he was IRRELEVANT immediately after he lost the next.. You guys try to milk Sanders to in order to makeover Wlads loss and OVERINFLATE the nature of Vitalis win… NO Top boxers were quivering over this late replacement that happened to crush Wlad during a serious upset….Sanders never did anything of note before or after beating Wlad and thus ends his story….Vitali would have had 2 good eyes BUT unfortunately they allow punching in boxing and Lennox Lewis decided to take one of his eyes and turn him into a hemorraging 6″7 1/2 Pirate for the remainder… But again where is the terrific victory??? Please don’t make me crap on myself and say Sanders?? because at the upper level of the sport he was NO ONE except a guy who gave Wlad nightmares….Lesson over

Posted November 2, 2012 4:42 am 


BEARS

Nobody at heavyweight is really “defined” by who they beat besides ali. Nobody else fought a laundry list formidable opponents. If u look at the list of champions not many can compare to this aduration of domination. Wlad is taking records at thispoint and whether u like it or agree is irrelevant. Wladimir klitschkos name is above many greats and will probably above all greats in some serious records. So wlads not just being mentioned with these guys but above these guys. Wlads just doin work.

Posted November 2, 2012 2:20 am 


BEARS

We saw what happens when vitaly has two good eyes. In rounds one and two of vitaly vs lennox. Add revenge to that picture and you are adding a vitaly from the sanders and that’s BRUTALITY. Sredmond calls sanders a nobody and lwis admits he dodged sanders. This mean sredmondthinks lewis dodges nobodies. Lol. All u have to do is compare what the boxing professionals say about the klitschkos and what sredmond says and it becomes clear the guy is some out of touch hater. When this guy hawks klitschko threads it becomes more clear. And vitaly fills stadiums, ward doesn’t do that. Vitaly is the main even. People in the u.s don’t even follow ward. Lol. Which I don’t understand but its true

Posted November 2, 2012 2:13 am 


TARK

All the greats were there praising Vitali on his comeback, at 37, against Peter… Foreman, Frazier, Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield…. They all knew Vitali was special and a great fighter… None of them did that for Wladimir… They all said, “This is YOUR time Vitali. Go take it.”

Posted November 2, 2012 1:03 am 


BEARS

Vitaly klitschko! Number ko % of ALL TIME. Most efficient in plus minus ratio in heavy history and one of the best of all time so its no wonder lennoxcouldnt hit him tell he had one eye. Vitaly never knocked down or out or given. Standing 8. Best jaw we ever seen at heavy. Ridiculus work rate landing more punches on lennox in 6 rounds than holy could land in 12. Outlanding his opponents every fight. Never down in the fight. Only loosing to injury. This man is the terminator. This man is the GOAT. This man is YOUR world champion and best of all time. THE KING OF HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING. VIIIIITTTAAAALY KLIIIIIIIIIITTTTSSSSCCCCHHHKKKKKOO!

Posted November 1, 2012 6:59 pm 


SREDMOND

Corrie Sanders was a NOBODY till he blasted Wlad out and he returned to being a NOBODY AFTER he was beaten by Vitali… He was NOT a special fighter and he spent his career beating C level competition…. Wlad is disgraced for getting beat by a guy like that HENCE his loss being “Upset of the Year” smoked in the 2nd round….. Vitali gets NO special credit for beating a guy that had been knocked out twice before and had no success against World Class boxers outside catching his then china chinned brother and leaving him looking like a lame ONLY to have him AGAIN taken out by Brewster 5 fights later….

Posted November 1, 2012 3:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Poor Bastards still trying to salvage a win from OLD retired Lennox Lewis for Vitali since his(Vitalis) career never got off the ground from a quality standpoint…Like Dan Rafael said the last time you actually see him win a fight might be against Charr… Typifies the fodder that Klitschko amassed his record against, seems like a good man and VERY solid professional but he has never beat anyone historically impressive during his 15 or 16 years of professional boxing…. Hence his legacy still dangling from the balls of a retired ATG who punished him and sent him packing close to a decade ago…. SMH

Posted November 1, 2012 3:35 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Quoting Lampley and Merchant…LMAO!

Posted November 1, 2012 3:31 pm 


Anonymous

Haye’s toe “injury” wouldn’t have stopped a bobby sox girl from playing softball.

To “Anonymous”… had to go back 9 years to find someone who beat Vitali when losing on all scorecards lol Pathetic man. Sure you wanna open up that can of worms? Maybe you should take a look at all the Klitschko victims over the past TEN YEARS LOL So who’s your hope now? Where he at? LOL

Posted November 1, 2012 3:26 pm 


BEARS

when you have guys like larry merchant saying vitaly won the event and lennox won the fight and guys like dan rafael saying that was perfectly put. when you have a crowd booing the official winner and cheering the guy who was dominating every phase of the game. when you have a promised rematch. when you have the jagged cuts/lacing/holding and hitting. when you win on a cut in a big fight like in mma. you have rematches. its obvious why lennox didnt rematch and lay the dubious nature of his win in the first to rest. when you get worked in every phase of the boxing game, you would not be apt to give a rematch either would you? you would try to get a gravy fight with mike tyson like lennox tried to do wouldnt you? instead of fight vitaly in a rematch. you would demand your own dr’s clear vitaly fit to fight. you would make vitaly fight eliminators. you would EVEN FORCE THE WBC TO MAKE THE FIGHT MANDATORY. in essence. you would do what lennox lewis did and put heaven and earth between a rematch with vitaly klitschko if your ass got wooped in every phase of the boxing game like lennox’s did against vitaly. so we UNDERSTAND in a sense.

Posted November 1, 2012 1:57 pm 


TARK

Lennox Lewis was behind Vitali Klitschko, on points, ON ALL CARDS when their fight ended… Because of the controversy surrounding the deep jagged cuts on Vitali’s face—which many experts said came from deliberate lacing with the palm of Lewis’s glove, remember Lewis was warned for palming during the fight—Lewis promised Vitali a rematch. After all, Lewis was granted rematches after LL was blown away to shameful defeat by Rahman and McCall… However, Mister Lewis reneged on his promise and slinked out on the rematch—which would have made 3 times as much money as the first fight … You have to be pretty fearful of a major ass kicking when you turn down potentially 40 million dollars to fight somebody seeking revenge.

Posted November 1, 2012 1:42 pm 


BEARS

by the end of round 8 i have Never seen ANYONE take more punishment in a heavyweight bout than what corrie sanders took. corrie just took sooooooo much i’ve never seen anything like it. the fight couldve been stopped half way through

Posted November 1, 2012 1:11 pm 


BEARS

In round 4 of the vitaly vs corrie fight jim lampley says corries loss to rahman was due to fatigue and that corrie about knocked rahman through the ropes and was dominant until the fatigue. i would say thats a correct assessment.

Posted November 1, 2012 12:52 pm 


BEARS

watch the last 30 seconds of round 3. it just nasty the work vitaly puts in and larry merchant yells “this is one of the BEST heavyweight rounds we have seen in YEARS”

Posted November 1, 2012 12:45 pm 


huckster

Test Test Test Go Wach!

Posted November 1, 2012 7:37 am 


BEARS

Actually it was properly not ruled a knockdown. And no analyst calling the fight lederman, merchant lampleyply etc said different

Posted November 1, 2012 2:37 am 


TARK

meh…. You’re stupid and biased… Vitali’s never been knocked down in his entire career… He hammered Sanders from ring post to ring post and beat him half to death–check the punch stats… BTW, he won his first title by KOing Herbie Hide in 2 rounds.. It was a walk over against a guy who really couldn’t fight.. Hide KO’d Michael Bentt… who knocked out Tommy Morrison… who whipped George Foreman… That’s the lineal path of that title.

Posted November 1, 2012 2:11 am 


BEARS

Sanders didn’t have vitaly down. Go to boxrec or watch the fight. There was no knock down

Posted November 1, 2012 1:34 am 


TARK

Official stats

Posted November 1, 2012 1:09 am 


TARK

meh….. Vitali outscored Sanders 230 to 51 in the fight and power punches 171 to 42 according to the official states… He out-scored Sanders in every round including the first round and outscored Sanders almost 5 to 1 in punches landed… Sanders was one of the easiest guys for Vitali to hit of all the fighters he fought. True enough, Sanders did out-score his brother Wladimir in their fight.

Posted November 1, 2012 1:08 am 


BEARS

Vitaly has never been behind on any official score cards when all of his fights have come to an end. It’s a widely known fact and accolade of vitalys and he has more accolades than any heavyweight in history. a TRUE one of a kind.

Posted November 1, 2012 12:59 am 


Anonymous

Let’s wait & see.

Posted November 1, 2012 12:58 am 


TARK

All of Wladimir’s losses came because he lacked clinching skills and stance improvements he mastered over time from Steward’s coaching.. Steward did say Wladimir was the best all around fighter he ever trained, and the most organized and intelligent.. WK was never KO’d with one shot like Lewis was twice—so the skills he learned from Steward would have gotten him back into the fights he lost.. Purrity beat Wladimir because Wlad was underweight and sick before the fight, weighing only 225.. He never weighed within less than 10 pounds of that weight again.. He won easily up until the 10th but ran out of steam because of his weak physical condition.. That’s not indicative of the fighter WK was at his peak–and obviously neither were his other losses which all happened before he was coached very long by Steward.

Posted November 1, 2012 12:24 am 


TARK

Vitali was never behind on points in any of his fights and he’s the only Heavyweight Champion in history who can come close to truthfully making that claim… So with any luck at all Vitali could have won all his fights—and obviously he would have beaten his brother because he knocked out guys who knocked out Wladimir—and Wladimir even admitted Vitali was the better fighter and would beat him if they fought.

Posted November 1, 2012 12:21 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Holyfield was a true warrior in his younger days. Was in some memorable, epic scraps. An exciting ATG for sure.

Posted November 1, 2012 12:15 am 


BEARS

Haters like slow redmond and their double standards are funny. lennox gets layed out by an addict and rahman. but these guys were not supperior boxers to lennox. like purritty, sannders, and brewster are not supperior to wlad. and nobody was putting money on these guys in rematches like wlad vs brewster II. just look at the odds as well. then you have clowns like redmond making more of it than one it is. I will tell you who did show he was a supperior boxer in every phase of the game and thats vitaly klitschKO. when he fought lennox. it was clear.

Posted October 31, 2012 11:31 pm 


BEARS

wlad didnt look like crap against guys like chuck wepener and bert cooper. little ass guys. wlad never got dumped by non heavyweights like other greats. wlads not a feather fist either. though this is all subjective one need only look at the views the great coaches and analysts of the sport. not the ramblings of some hater scraping for some smack talk. this guy will tell you holyfields greater than the great wladimir klitschKO! bahahahaahahahahah!!

Posted October 31, 2012 11:24 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

“NOBODIES dumping Wladdy despite his ressurection and success against Mormeck….!” LMAO! You fools got owned, once again.

Posted October 31, 2012 11:00 pm 


Mr Rubes

Now everyone watching, see how the politician Redmond WON’T give a straight-forward answer because he CAN’T. He will either give a long-winded response that leads no where, or he will perhaps answer with a question of his own. He is a predicitable politician who knows I OWN his pityful ASS any time I choose. Just lucky for him, most of the time I choose not to respond to him from a combination of boredom and realisation that in life there are far more important things to do. But occasionally, like now, I may indugle my guilty pleasure of exposing this idiot. ;)

Posted October 31, 2012 9:43 pm 


Mr Rubes

Sorry, do they effect Manny’s legacy?

Posted October 31, 2012 9:40 pm 


Mr Rubes

Sredmond, a question. I think we are agreed that Manny Pacquaio is a living legend. Now, Manny Pacquaio was KO’d by a guy called Rustico Torrecampo. He was KOd by another guy called Medgoen Singsurat. Bth finished in the 3rd round. To use your own words you no life egotistical mid 40 year old loser “And those guys are historical NOBODIES dumping MANNY” So boxing sage, do those loses effect Wlad’s legaxy in any way??

Posted October 31, 2012 9:37 pm 


SREDMOND

I mean I know you think that Brewster, Purrity and Sanders are equal to Tyson, Holmes and Ali but history and most remotely sane people don’t see it that way… I know you will start with “gassing” and Wlad being only 11 years old with Purrity caught up with him, poison ect…. But the losses regretfully stand on good old planet earth…And those guys are historical NOBODIES dumping Wladdy despite his ressurection and success against Mormeck….!

Posted October 31, 2012 9:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, AGAIN I see you are back proving to be an idiot and poor reader… The reality is that Wlad was knocked as as MUCH as Marciano-0 Holmes-1 Foreman-1 and Ali-1 combined… Get the picture?? And YES his losses were far more tragic because the guys who stopped him were nobodies whereas and older Holmes got blasted by a STREAKING Mike Tyson, Foreman by Ali considered the 2nd Greatest HW by most credible bodies and Ali who was beaten at the end by Larry Holmes who defended 20 times straight…. So what are the accomplishments of the men who crushed Wlad…. Ummmmm ONLY ONE beating Wlad!! Purrity, Sanders and Brewster did NOTHING else of note in the sport…. Thus ends the lesson, no need for applause!! :)

Posted October 31, 2012 9:23 pm 


BEARS

“BOOOOO” that reminds me of what the crowd in Los angelos california did to lennox and then cheered vitaly

Posted October 31, 2012 7:25 pm 


BEARS

Vitalys best display of his boxing, was his schooling of lennox in every phase of the game. the cut is irrelevant. no cut is praiseworthy and outside of that cut what can be said of lennox in that fight? lol. enough said. then you look at what happened afterwords and lennox looks even worse. klitschko documentary was on HBO in english. ya gotta see it. it puts a lot into perspective

Posted October 31, 2012 7:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark how was Sanders “Super Tough” he got knocked out 4 times in his career and twice BEFORE Vitali did it….Once by Hasim Rahman who YOU called ” lazy assed, stupid and chinless” LMAO… and earlier by Nate Tubbs (BOOOOOOO!!!!) If Sanders was as YOU say “Super Tough” how could he let this guy take him out and be stopped 4 times??? Sanders was a C level fighter who blew out a china chinned Wlad…. Sam Peter is Vitalis best night in a boxing ring, but alas that is not the stuff of legends…. SORRY MAN!!

Posted October 31, 2012 7:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, sadly Ali is NOT defined by his weakest foes… He fought GREAT men and showed he could defeat them… Wlad Klitschko has NEVER succeeded against a GREAT fighter be it by design or bad luck…. No one remembers Ali for Evangelista, the remember him knocking out an undefeated ATG like George Foreman… Whats Wlads best night?? Byrd?? Chambers?? please don’t say that terribly unimpressive fight with David Haye?? LOL

Posted October 31, 2012 7:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark you are a complete revisionist saying that because Sanders beat Wlad he is NOT a C level fighter… He NEVER beat another guy of top quality AFTER or really did much prior… If you are going to call his prior WEAK opponents B level then what was he??? A level??? This same Wlad was beaten EARLIER by an utter BUM (Purrity) you say that a C level guy could not get to someone like Wlad so does that eman that Purrity with 20 career losses and 13 at the time he stopped Wlad was MORE than a BUM or D level fighter?? GTFOH

Posted October 31, 2012 7:05 pm 


TARK

Calling Sanders a “C” level fighter is freakin’ ignorant… Nobody beats a 6’7″X245 pound Heavyweight Champion with a 41-1 record if they’re a “C” grade fighter.. Sanders’ quick destruction of many B level fighters, including Michael Sprott, Otis Tisdale, Mike Williams, Alfred Cole, Jorge Valdez, Carlos D Leon, and Bobby Czyz demonstrates his class… Compared to Ali opponents like Henry Cooper, Brian London, Jean Pierre Coopman, Richard Dunn, Ruddi Lubbers, Alfredo Evangelista, Leon Spinks, and Chuck Wepner, he certainly had a stellar record — as well has speed and power none of them possessed.

Posted October 31, 2012 5:44 pm 


TARK

Vitali systematic destruction the super tough Sanders and Peter tells us a whole lot.. Peter probably would have knocked Sanders out in a few rounds but he was an easier opponent for Vitali.. Styles make fights.. Winning every single round off World Champion caliber boxers like Juan Carlos Gomez, 44-1, and Tomasz Adamek, 43-1, gives you an idea of Vitali’s technical skills which were far superior to his brother’s at his peak… Also, being the ONLY Heavyweight Champion who’s never been behind on points—and being one of two Heavyweight Champions who’s never been knocked down, tells you about his defensive skills as well.

Posted October 31, 2012 5:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Vitali beating Sanders and Purrity tells us NOTHING about him as a fighter just because these same guys blasted out his brother… Purrity was a BUM, plain and simple and Vitali SHOULD be able to beat a bum…. This guy had MULTIPLE 3 fight losing streaks in his career and retired with 20 losses… Sanders was a C level fighter who was not beating up World Class comp outside of stopping Wlad…. He is NEVER going to be remembered as more than a decent fighter nothing special…. “But only if he trained harder” but he DID’NT!! Just like I was not born built like Dwight Howard or I would play in the NBA…. Beating these two is not some sort of feather in Vitalis cap BUT losing to them is a STAIN on Wlads record…..REALITY

Posted October 31, 2012 4:12 pm 


TARK

I never said Wladimir couldn’t take a punch.. Lewis was the victim of 2 one-punch KO’s but I still think Lewis could absorb a tremendous punch — he just got hit perfectly.. Mercer, Tyson, Klitschko, Ruddock, etc. just didn’t connect as well with Lewis’s chin.. To a degree that’s luck.. Wladimir’s problem was how he reponded to taking a thunderous shot.. He had no idea how to clinch with any skill.. Maybe if you never face a big hitter, or they never hit you real good, you can get away with that.. But Wladimir can’t take a punch like his brother Vitali, and they have sparred in the past, and this is something they’ll both admit to.. Oliver McCall and Vitali Klitschko are the only two Heavyweight Champions who’ve never been knocked down … If you’re 41 and can still absorb punches very well, that’s pretty amazing. At their best Vitali would win. After all, he did KO 2 guys who stopped Wladimir — and he wasted Peter (31-1) like he was a little baby.

Posted October 31, 2012 3:51 pm 


‘Zo

Shavers or Terrell?

Posted October 31, 2012 2:23 pm 


‘Zo

Johnny Ruiz and Fres Oquendo–Marvelous shape that pre klit heavy division

Posted October 31, 2012 2:21 pm 


Anonymous

Jurgen Blin, Brian London.

Posted October 31, 2012 2:17 pm 


alonzow

And who can forget the 70’s and 80’s challengers–Scott Frank, Lucien Rodriguez, Lorenzo Cannon Zannon, Alfredo Evangelista, Jean Pierre Coopman, Chuck Wepner and our ol pal Richard Dunn. I could go on. But the anti-Klit legacy crew would have such a denial moment they’d wind up with a permanent dissociative disorder.

Alonzo

Posted October 31, 2012 2:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark as for watching a free fight, I like boxing and try to stay current… I am NOT watching looking for Wlad to lose because he is indeed better than anyone currently operating by a WIDE margin, but alas the dropoff is so steep it leaves him beating on washed up 40 year olds and manufactured threats like Wach at this point…. I acknowledge his run beating Chagaev, Bryd, Chambers and Brock but the last 3 defenses are pretty sad…. Saying “Wach could win” leaves the door open for Wlad to face other relatively inept opponents using the same excuse…. Sorry there is little credit forthcoming this guy is not a World Class fighter….I fully expect Wlad to knock this guy clean out, there is no hidden chamber in me believing or praying for an upset…

Posted October 31, 2012 1:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark says “Wlad comes prepared for every bout and Lewis didn’t” so what Tark is saying is despite his BEST preparation Wlad Klitschko was knocked out 3 times!!! More than Lewis, and more the same as Ali, Foreman, Holmes and Marciano combined!!! You have painted a VERY unflattering picture of Wlad Klits with that assertion Tark…. Do you care to revise your statement?? Because you are saying that a FULLY prepped Wlad Klits got stopped 3 times by nobodies… And the version of Rahman that caught Lewis was good enough to stop Klitschko conquerer Corrie Sanders who had Big Klits in the fetal position and out of the fight after 2 rounds coming off a LONG layoff…..??????

Posted October 31, 2012 1:31 pm 


Koolz

Wach will throw the right miss and open himself up to some huge counters, after that he will be a very large very tall punching bag. Wald will wear him down first then go for the KO.
I really look forward to this fight Wach and Wald go way way back!

Posted October 31, 2012 1:29 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Shameful.

Posted October 31, 2012 12:29 pm 


TARK

Sred….. 23-1 odds add up to about 3 losses for the number of fights Wladimir has had… You never know the fight where the odds will finally catch up to you—and the bell tolls.. Did the slow, pathetic, unskilled, fat, lazy-assed, stupid, chinless Hasim Rahman KO Lennox Lewis??? Yes he DID!!! That was an emphatic ending if I’ve ever seen one. Why do you think the same thing is impossible in this fight??? Wach is rolling the dice boy — be prepare to have your adrenaline explode of the charts as Wladimir hits the canvas with a resounding slam.. But then Wladimir comes perpared for every fight and Lewis didn’t always do that — so this scenario might not actually play out.. But it COULD!!!!! … And that’s why you’re going to be watching … If Wladimir had Vitali’s chin you wouldn’t bother.

Posted October 31, 2012 11:17 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

The Klits are not the greatest thing to ever come along. Their boring style has really caused the interest in the sport to wane over recent years. It’s really not their faults, the competition is as weak as it’s been in any era in the division. The heavyweight champion was regarded the most prestigious title in all sports, in the glory days. Today not at all. What a shame.

Posted October 31, 2012 10:33 am 


SREDMOND

Chris up bright and early thinking about ME…. I’m flattered Chris whereas I am discussing topics relevant to the thread ie boxing and the Klits you are up early riding my jock… Take comfort you are behind a long line of frustrated dreamers who’s bubbles I have burst… :)

Posted October 31, 2012 10:00 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, you know I cannot be sold BS very easily, the guys that Wach has been stopping are no name fighters and he himself has participated in 3 or 4 scheduled 12 round fights this is the TYPICAL padded record… I KNOW that you wanna hype up Wlads latest pick but this guy is a NO HOPER…. Correct me if I am wrong but YOU projected him at around 23-1 odds?????????????????????????????????? I guess that is a guy you have massive confidence in eh???

Posted October 31, 2012 6:53 am 


kosciuszko

Iron Ralph,
Haye had a cortisone injection into the little toe prior to the fight, to stop the overwhelming amount of pain it must have been causing him (LOL!!). And be honest, the toe didn’t hinder his movements when avoiding Wlad’s big right hands did it? Or his constant back peddling? Funny how it only hindered his ability to go forward….And as for ‘manning up’, does him pulling his little pinky out after the fight to show the world make him a man? How about Calzaghe v Bika, where Joe broke his hand mid fight, and still carried on, one handed. Or Arthur Abraham who had his jaw broken, but still continued to beat Miranda. Or Tommy Morrison who beat Joe Hipp with both a broken hand AND jaw. Or how about Froch suffering a perforated ear drum against the ol’ pop Johnson? Or Razor Ruddock fighting Iron Mike with a bust jaw? These are just a few cases of the true warriors who continued to fight with far severe injuries than a sodding broken pinky, and funnily enough none of them moaned about it either the way Haye did!!

Posted October 31, 2012 5:17 am 


knowall

Sred………… and not only a poor KO% have you seen the guys he has been up against, poor. Wlad will beat this guy with ease

Posted October 31, 2012 4:24 am 


Petr

If Wach shots Klitchko with his right hand could be very intresting, Wlad won’t be anybody in the corner who tells him what to do, let see Wach’s trainings to the fight, he is 3 times faster than 3 years ago, but I’m not sure he is faster enough for Wlad

Posted October 31, 2012 4:17 am 


julian

just let it go ralph. the toe fairy had his chance and blew it. he doesn’t deserve another.

on another note, this topic will soon be destroyed by the biggest klit groupe alive, redmond. get this guy off this site.

Posted October 31, 2012 4:04 am 


gold

I cant see how Wladimir beats this guy, Stewards style of “fighting tall” will play into the hands of Wach. Yea, Wach is slow, but he also can amazingly speed up after he catches you with the overhand right or a straight left! Wlad, from what I see, would still have trouble with this dude – even if Steward was in his corner. Though Wlad may be stronger, and quicker, I dont see him overwhelming Wach, with accurate punching. Wach isnt your typical heavyweight powderpuff foe in comparison to the musclebound Wlad….Wlad finally has a beast in front of him size & skill wise, since maybe the 1st Peter fight. Hey, Wlad may put everything together splendidly against Wach in honor of Steward – breaking down Wachs psyche with the whole aura of the moment. But if he cant break it, Wlad is in for a long fight on the losing end…..of course I could be wrong…..but I dont think so.

Posted October 31, 2012 3:27 am 


TARK

Sred sez… “How is Wachs right hand “so big” he has a 55% KO ratio??” …. Wach is coming off of 7 straight KO’s… You see, at first Wach wanted to learn how to box—and you do that best by getting a lot of rounds in, so he wanted to go the distance if possible… Then, after he learned how to box, he wanted to learn how to punch—so that’s why the 7 straight KO’s—all in the process of becoming a highly ranked boxer-puncher.

Posted October 31, 2012 1:55 am 


Iron Ralph

No disrespect to Wach, but I cant see how Wladimir will lose this in a million years.
Regardless, I would like to see Haye vs Wladimir again.
I think Haye is capable of more with a 150% toe make over. hahahaha and lets face it, I can see how people say Wladimir dominated because in one way he did, but he failed to knock Haye out or down properly, and all this with a broken toe.
It shows how many people here and in general who have not had a broken toe, Its extremely painful and more so in some cases if it is not completely broken but fractured.
I’m surprised Haye went out, but after the first arranged fight he had no choice but to man up and get in there.
Theres two fights, and nothing else in the HW interets me,
Vitali vs Haye
Wladimir vs Haye 2 (no broken toe).
And you cant expect WK vs VK, there brothers, c’mon.

Posted October 31, 2012 1:43 am 


SREDMOND

How is Wachs right hand “so big” he has a 55% KO ratio?? ludicrous……

Posted October 31, 2012 1:10 am 


rod

Wlad could make a coffee waiting for wachs right hand. Wach is so slow

Posted October 31, 2012 12:27 am 



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