Tark your stupidity of boxing knowledge is incredible, you say…’Their was no possible way Ali could beat Holmes from 1974 for on…’Holmes career was just starting in 1974! he only had 8-9 fights. Maybe you just don’t like Ali, but don’t let your dislike for a fighter cloud the truth. Ali had already won a world championship in 1964.Posted August 11, 2014 6:31 pm
Tark…Holmes was getting black eyes all week…But thanks for having the balls to respond. Have a nice day.Posted August 11, 2014 2:23 am
Thanks for responding Tarkie…but you know the truth!Posted August 11, 2014 2:19 am
SLIM says…, “Rent “when we were kings” please…just check it out. I think you would get a different perspective.”
In “When We Were Kings” A commentator states.. “Ali hasn’t won a round from Holmes in over a week.”
That’s because Larry Holmes was one of the greatest and most flawless boxers in FISTIC HISTORY — and Ali was merely a pretty good boxer with a lot of flaws and gaping holes in his defense.
Larry even told people privately that he could beat Ali any time he wanted to… and that he had to ease up on Ali all the time… but not to say ANYTHING because boxing for Ali paid really well.
Unfortunately, word of this leaked out and Ali got really pissed off… Holmes had to let Ali win a few rounds to get back in his good graces and keep his job.
But from 1974 on… There was no possible way Ali could beat Holmes.Posted August 10, 2014 11:42 pm
When was Ali “EVER” in your wildest wet dreams beat up by a 40 year old cab driver? Did that ever happen Tark??? But Toe is better then Ali? You would jck Haye off if you had the opportunity wouldn’t you?Posted August 10, 2014 11:41 pm
Stupid says.., “Many boxers were harder punchers than Ali even defended better than Ali but still lost to Ali. Do you think The “Toe Jammer” punches harder than George Foreman?”
Well…, I know Foreman punched harder than feather punching Jimmy Young… Young could box.
So can David Haye.. He can punch too, which Young couldn’t.. Young still knocked George on his ass.
BTW… MANY think Norton beat Ali 3 times… Think Young beat Ali… Think Ali lost Spinks II… and think light heavyweight Doug Jones also beat Ali… That would give Ali 11 losses if it wasn’t for his massive popularity as an anti-war hero.Posted August 10, 2014 11:26 pm
Toe nail Haye is perfect for plastic hw fans.Posted August 10, 2014 1:43 pm
personally I don’t think I would give him one even over the likes of Razor Raddock, Tim Weatherspoon, Bonecrusher Smith. Tommy Morrison.Posted August 10, 2014 11:37 am
just so you know – can you clarify just which HWs of the past would The “Toe Jammer” get over, Tyson perhaps, Bowe, Holyfield, maybe Holmes, Foreman, Frazier or Tark’s favourite The Greatest, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles, Marciano, The Brown Bomber, Jack Dempsey. What about Archie Moore, do you think he could get one over him?Posted August 10, 2014 11:33 am
Anonymous – you happy Chump, you obviously one dumb cracker ain’t you. Many boxers were harder punchers than Ali even defended better than Ali but still lost to Ali. Do you think The “Toe Jammer” punches harder than George Foreman? you’re weak.Posted August 10, 2014 11:05 am
Tark said is doesn’t matter that Ali was the undisputed Heavy Weight champ? WTF are you talking about, the belts determine your status in the Hiearchy of boxing you idiot. LMAO!!!!Posted August 10, 2014 2:34 am
No shyt, I was just responding to his jabs about Ali’s physical condition…he fought when it was 15 rounds.Posted August 9, 2014 11:09 pm
Just so you know
Slim how could Haye fight a 15 round fight when no such fights are sanctioned in this era? Wise up. Haye in peak condition would be too much for most heavies in history. He has the boxing skills added with the fact that whilst today he is a small heavy in gone past he would have been on a par size wise.Posted August 9, 2014 7:40 pm
Did dempsey Ali or the Rock ever have Toe trouble in a fight.Posted August 9, 2014 4:42 pm
Haye had his most success as a cruiser weight, how is he over Ali who fought as a HW his whole career. Does anybody have true boxing knowledge on ESB?Posted August 9, 2014 3:30 pm
Leon Spinks never beat Ali’s ass Tark it was a split decision lost, and they did rematch and Ali beat HIS ass. Tark quit babbling and do your home work bloat.Posted August 9, 2014 3:25 pm
Larry Holmes use to be Ali sparring partner Tark! He said Ali would give him black eyes all the time but he learned a lot. Then fought him 12-13 years later. Your “Hilarious”… Rent “when we were kings” please…just check it out. I think you would get a different perspective.Posted August 9, 2014 3:00 pm
When Ali fought Leon Spinks and Larry Holmes is was tired and washed up..Any boxing historian will tell you that Tark. It’s funny man because I read a lot of your post and you seem knowledgeable but then you fall off the wagon with this nonsense about Ali..like somebody who can do calculus but then has problems with add and substraction…lol!Posted August 9, 2014 2:57 pm
Tark-your delusional, that’s the same argument people have about the Klit bros. They have reigned so long because NOBODY is there? You defend them don’t you? And Ali lost to Frazier after being suspended for 3 years and 1-2 warm ups and then fought Frazier and lost. 15 round fights are WAY tougher then 12 round fights, Ali had way more competition the Toe..Posted August 9, 2014 2:52 pm
Slim.., It didn’t matter if Ali was undisputed Heavyweight Champion. Wladimir Kilitschko wasn’t around.
There were no Larry Holmes’s… Joe Louis’s… Lennox Lewis’s… Vitali Klitschko’s… Jack Johnson’s… or David Haye’s around in the ’70’s.
Ali had ZERO competition until Frazier came along and kicked his ass.
Ali had a small amount of competition in the ’70 when Frazier, Norton, and neophyte Leon Spinks kicked his tail.
Ali ducked Larry Holmes to fight unranked Leon Spinks, but still got his ass beat.Posted August 9, 2014 2:48 pm
Did “Toe” ever win gold metal NO, Did “Toe” fight 15 round fights, NO. Did “Toe” fight better competition then “Ali” NO. How many HOF fighters did he fight? 1 the Klit and lost in the “Toe” fight. Ali fought 9-10 HOF’s. How many signature fights did “Toe” have 0!”Ali” had least 5.”Ali” is known all over the world as ambassador for the sport. “Toe” is known for the “Toe” loss! The Klit bros. said Ali is their idol they laugh at “Toe”…”Ali” was the Undisputed Heavy Weight Champ!!!! “Toe” one belt and lost it…How in the your wildest wet dreams is David “Toe” Haye better then Ali Tark??Posted August 9, 2014 2:36 pm
why do some americans love uk hype jobs.Posted August 9, 2014 12:10 pm
Yes Sredmund it is shameful that latter day Hopkins is allowed to get away with his illegal tricks. It is obviously a sympathy vote for the half centurion. I must admit though he is very good at his illicit tactics. So good that you can’t even see it, like the refs and all the hop ring boys following his scent. I see you have been preparing the way for defeat, though, by saying if k doesn’t win easily it is not really a decent victory for k. So that is an admission from you that at 50 Hop is not that good. So he keeps winning because of what exactly? It seems in the end you railroad yourself into agreeing with me! Now that’s funny. But I accept the compliment.Posted August 9, 2014 11:49 am
No wucking furries
The stair master. That’s hilarious. Try real stairs.Posted August 9, 2014 11:37 am
Not good to get personal on this message board’s im thinking. Lesson learned.Posted August 9, 2014 9:57 am
My workout partner is 5′ 9″ at 260 and 5% body fat, just go’s to sean homo Matthew s is the dumb bear gut gay porn loser.Posted August 9, 2014 9:51 am
Sean im 8 pounds over weight I do 45 minutes on the stair master every day son, I’d bust your mouth so fast and take your girlfriend lol.Posted August 9, 2014 9:47 am
That’s FAKE Tark you guys, he’s not that stupid.Posted August 9, 2014 8:12 am
Happychimp.., You don’t know what you’re looking at. Haye is obviously a much harder puncher than Ali.. and a much better defender as well.. Haye has a good body attack and Ali had NO body attack … Ali was too easy to hit, and so he’s in the sorry state that you see him in.
You’re an ignorant LIAR chimp… Geale, Isheda, and Ouma all have held world titles.. Proksa was European Middleweight Champion.. They were all important challengers.Posted August 9, 2014 5:01 am
David Haye lost to a 40yr old cab driver named Carl Thompson now he’s better then “Ali”?.. Tark please get a brain scan. Lol!Posted August 9, 2014 4:28 am
No seriously Tark…when was “TOE” ever in his wildest dreams become the “Undisputed Heavy Weight Champion of the World”??Posted August 9, 2014 4:05 am
@Tark…you have good post, then you fall off the wagon with this ignoramus talk. Ali had way more “heart” and guts “confidence” and “tenacity” it’s not even close my friend. Can you imagine in your wildest dreams Ali taking his shoe off after a ‘loss’ and showing the world his hurt “TOE”?? Are you dumb or stupid or both?? You lose credibility with this stupid argument Tark, can’t you see that? When was David Toe Haye ever the undisputed “Heavy weight Champion” of the world?????Posted August 9, 2014 3:51 am
Happyboy.., You don’t know what you’re looking at. Haye is obviously a much harder puncher than Ali.. and a much better defender as well.. Haye has a good body attack and Ali had NO body attack … Ali was too easy to hit, and so he’s in the sorry state that you see him in.
“Tark – at 32 GGG still has not faught a champion or top tier boxer.”
You’re an ignorant LIAR… Geale, Isheda, and Ouma all have held world titles.. Proksa was European Middleweight Champion.. They were all important challengers.Posted August 9, 2014 2:41 am
Hey ‘Happy Boy” he was snorting draino when he said that! give him a “pass”…lolPosted August 9, 2014 2:32 am
Tark – you’re the idiot who thinks Toejam Haye is better than Ali. GTFOH with your crap old fool.Posted August 9, 2014 1:02 am
Tark – at 32 GGG still has not faught a champion or top tier boxer, at the same age Floyd was a multi division champion and a sure bet HOFmer.Posted August 9, 2014 12:55 am
Tark – If you stand in the rain, you get wet, this is boxing and getting hit is part of the game, you sound very stupid raving on about a boxer getting hit.Posted August 9, 2014 12:48 am
Kassim ouma gave Triple G trouble, ya digPosted August 8, 2014 9:49 pm
Sean Matthew Tompkins
eric IS fat at 248. and he just gives up at 44 and decides to become another guy with a disgusting beer gut. “oh, i’m old now, what the hell.” fkg pig. next up: diabetes and heart disease.Posted August 8, 2014 9:34 pm
Im 44 now and my physical goals are, not be a fat guy, lol that’s about it.Posted August 8, 2014 7:40 pm
If 3G is 160 in his 30’s he wont get to much bigger, maybe 8 or 9 lbs at most and that’s staying in fighting shape. Guys do some natural growth from 30 to 35 but most of that being during earlier times.
When I was 18 I weighed 174 lbs.
22 I weighed about 192.
28 around 220.
32 around 245.
All just filling out mostly, just naturalized growth, I did weight train for 20 years.
I now weigh 248 and use no drugs and eat pretty healthy.
Im getting old now thou, myswell go eat a burger screw it.
My whole point is 3G wont naturally get a lot bigger being in his early 30’s unless he lifts heavyweight or does a James Toney.Posted August 8, 2014 7:36 pm
Sredmond LIES.., “Golovkins skills don’t even belong in the SAME universe as Mayweathers”
Do they belong in the same universe as Marcos Maidana’s??? Floyd didn’t look pristine after that fight. He took more than a few blows – not the kind you give Floyd.
Do they belong in the same universe as old man Mosley’s??? Floyd got caught with big right hands by Shane – right hands that caused him dipsy doodle all over the place.
Do they belong in the same universe as Zab Judah??? Judah lost to Paulie, Cotto, Tszyu, Baldomir, Clottey, Danny Garcia, Khan, etc… but Zab floored Floyd Mayweather – and popped Floyd around quite a bit early on.
Do they belong in the same universe as Miguel Cotto’s??? Floyd got popped with some stiff jabs in the face.. Roger had to run King-Sized Q-Tips up Floyd’s nose.
I don’t recall those things happening to GGG in any fight… He’s pretty masterful.Posted August 8, 2014 6:50 pm
eric, Floyd is not that big like ggg and not real pretty, like that guy that decisioned prvodinkov.Posted August 8, 2014 3:56 pm
Squeal, there are NO excuses for PRIME fighters getting dusted by a man his late 40’s EXCEPT that the Grandpa is a slicker and better boxer… Blaming the refs should be SHAMEFUL…Posted August 8, 2014 11:20 am
Eric the reason that GGG would have a shot in the world with Mayweather is because he naturally such a BIGGER fighter… While GGG is safe at his natural weight of 160 pounds Mayweather has fought from 130-154 which is a 24 pound rise in weight… In boxing that has proven to be an prohibitive endeavor… Golovkin would have to move up to 175 to even begin to replicate that effort… The desire to have a soon to be 38 year old fighter move up to his 7th weight division in order to face a power puncher is just SAD… Especially when SO little has been proven by or asked of GGG who is getting hand jobs and fellatio from Tark and others for knocking out a host of scrubs, a banged up Macklin and a Good fighter like Geale… Golovkins skills don’t even belong in the SAME universe as Mayweathers and he is NOT testing himself beyond his comfort zone at 160… Golovkin is 32 NOT 22 so whens he gonna take on 3-5 weight classes? Had Floyd stayed at 130 or 135 would he have the same accolades? I am NOT sure he would when will GGG RISK diluting his power so we can see these AMAZING boxing skills that he hides from us as he walks around the ring like the Terminator beating on whatever hapless 160 pounder they handpick for him…Posted August 8, 2014 11:19 am
There is aspects of Floyd’s game that supersede 3G’s game but overall or for a better word “collectively” 3G’S Skills are on par with Floyd’s.
3G’S power, crushing body work, stamina and good chin make Floyd and 3G even.
3G ko’s floyd late, I’d bet my bottom dollar on that.Posted August 8, 2014 10:01 am
Tark, I like your explanation of master boxer for the most part. It makes sense but ofcourse each fighter can be picked apart for better or worse but overall very well said.Posted August 8, 2014 9:54 am
Roy Jones was a MASTERBOXER and all the revisions after time caught up with him are just that REVISIONS… For 50 fights and 4 weight classes up to HW, Jones barely lost a round and he simply toyed with opponents that included PEAK James Toney and Bernard Hopkins… People forget he BEAT Tarver the first time in a tough bout and did not have to go back but he did and thus ends the story…Golovkin is VERY hittable and his caliber of opponent is not there to exploit it… He may have a Margo chin and hold up over time but selling him as a virtuoso or worthy of being in a conversation with Jones and Mayweather because he has mastered stopping C listers is just MORE of Tarks buffoonery…Posted August 8, 2014 9:28 am
Golovkin CANNOT touch Mayweather defensively and Zab Judah got Floyd off balance and NOTHING more… If Mayweather spent his career facing the caliber of opponents that Golovkin has he would never have lost a SINGLE second of a SINGLE round… By the time FMJ was GGG’s age how many World Championships in HOW many weight classes had he won? he was already considered the BEST in the sport… Golovkins amateur career should not be relevant at this point after “11 defenses” but it IS because the quality of the Pro’s he has faced is so BAD for the most part… Mayweather had faced Castillo 2x, Hernandez, Corrales, ODH and others by the time he was 32? who has GGG faced? a banged up Macklin and Daniel Geale….SNOREEEEEEEEEEE!!!Posted August 8, 2014 9:23 am
Hell yeah…..b watching this 1. I thought hopkins was scared? Congrates 2 both 4 getting it on.Posted August 8, 2014 6:57 am
@Tark which version of RJJ are to talking about, do you meant the one before Tarver? If that’s the RJJ you’re referring to then I have no further comments as you’re darn too retarded to engage you in a meaningful discussion. Go on YouTube and watch some of RJJ old fights and see how “too hittable” as you claimed he was, numbskull. Floyd is getting older and without any doubt he’s more hittable now than he was. However, even now if you think Floyd’s ability to slip punches, roll with punches and side step punches are worse than that of GGG then you’re in too denial and completely delusional.Posted August 8, 2014 6:47 am
If Cotto, Quillin, and Canelo are tougher than Geale – they’ll have to step up.Posted August 8, 2014 4:00 am
GGG will have to be fighting someone tough for his face to be looking rugged tark.Posted August 8, 2014 3:43 am
Punch Drunk says.., “@Tark your comparison of Floyd’s defensive skills to that GGG is laughable. You just can’t be taken seriously. Likewise, claiming RJJ was very hittable is such an outlandish statement that it should have you get your eyes and head checked.”
That’s funny.., because Gennady Golovkin has never been knocked down in 380 amateur and pro fights.
Floyd was knocked down by Zab Judah… was staggered badly by an elderly Shane Mosley… and was nailed with enough sharp jabs by Miguel Cotto that his uncle had to break out the King-Sized Q-Tips… dip them in coagulants, and shove them up Floyd’s nose to stem the bleeding.
Floyd’s face actually looked pretty rugged after the Cotto and Maindana fights… Haven’t seen GGG looking like that. But they’re both master boxers, 3G just hasn’t faced anyone who can hit him in 12 World Title Fights.
And I never said Roy Jones is “very hittable” you stupid lying dingleberry.. Roy was a great fighter.. I said Roy was too hittable to be considered a master boxer.. How many losses and KO defeats does he have???Posted August 8, 2014 3:29 am
TARK == TARDPosted August 8, 2014 3:04 am
@Tark your comparison of Floyd’s defensive skills to that GGG is laughable. You just can’t be taken seriously. Likewise, claiming RJJ was very hittable is such an outlandish statement that it should have you get your eyes and head checked.Posted August 8, 2014 12:09 am
Max and RJJ should just get a room and lock themselves in while watching Roy’s highlight reels!Posted August 7, 2014 11:52 pm
@ eric… A boxing master isn’t somebody who never gets hit. No such person ever existed. There are erroneous ideas of what a boxing master is and isn’t.
A boxing master is somebody who has mastered every punch – including body punches… Somebody who has mastered the inside game and outside game… Somebody who can control the center of the ring and doesn’t get driven to the ropes and beat on… Someone who, after a world title fight, shows few if any signs of being in a fight.
Some master boxers were Gene Tunney.. Willie Pep before his plane crash.. Eder Jofre.. Salvador Sanchez.. Guillermo Rigondeaux.. Floyd Mayweather.. Vasyl Lomachenko.. Andre Ward.. and Gennady Golovkin.
You might say: “Lomachenko only has 3 fights.” … He needed all 3 of them to make him a master boxer. It takes long time—at least 20 fights—to adapt amateur skills to the pro ranks. Loma and Rigo just did it unbelievably fast. Their amateur win ratios and accomplishments are so far ahead of anybody else who ever fought, they just skyrocketed.
Larry Holmes was close to a master.. but got knocked out.. Tunney might be the only heavyweight.
Roy Jones was also too hittable.Posted August 7, 2014 11:30 pm
RACEMOND knows NOTHING about boxing except how to suck a little black c0ck.Posted August 7, 2014 11:13 pm
Okay Sredmen I stand corrected, tark is calling 3G a master boxer.
My interpretation of master boxer is different than tarks but 3G comes close enuf when the whole package is integrated together.
I want to pull back a little and not be 100% sold on 3G just yet, but I’ve been married more than once so I’m not a very good person at making judgement calls on anything I supposePosted August 7, 2014 9:51 pm
Sredmond blathers ignorantly.., “GGG might be the real deal … That said he is NOT a masterboxer.”
You wouldn’t know Sred.. You picked Russell to dust Lomachenko… your analysis of boxing skills is HORRIBLE to say the least.. That was a masterful display of skill by Loma.
GGG’s won 345 of 350 amateur fights. Nobody at the pro level has been remotely competitive with 3G for 30 fights including 12 World Championship Fights.
Daniel Geale was competitive with other World Champions… but not remotely competitive with Golovkin.
Golovkin is very difficult to hit with a clean shot – even Floyd gets hit more cleanly – and 3G’s offense is extremely tricky and versatile. These guys don’t know where GGG’s punches are coming from.
That all spells master boxer.Posted August 7, 2014 6:51 pm
Sredmen nobody is calling 3G a master boxer, however, his boxing abilities are underrated by his critic’s.
He thinks and stalks and picks his shots untill he has his opponent unwary, sometimes he just go’s for the kill.
3G could leave himself open for a counter puncher with power, that’s the only way I see him losing.
Will his chin hold up when he fires back ? It seems so.
By the end on 2015, 3G will go all the way and prove his critic’s wrong, im 80% sure of that, but anyone can be beat in this sport, only time will tell.Posted August 7, 2014 5:56 pm
Look for Hopkins to headbutt fans during his ring walk.
Hopkins to throw the old 123 of headbutts followed by an uppercut then a headbutt.
Look for Hopkins to fake a low blow roll around on the canvas then headbutt kovelev s kneecap followed by a scream to the ref that his nutts hurt.
Look for Hopkins boring bend at the waist foul, cheat, elbow, rabbit punch,stall the fight, tie up then throw a combination of headbutts.
Drink a case of energy drinks, slam a cement truck full of coffee and prepare for round 2. Fall asleep, wake up for round 6, smoke something to make Hopkins mildly interesting then repeat.
Round 12 thank God you didn’t commit suicide then listen to Hopkins lectures for 11 hours about himself.Posted August 7, 2014 5:47 pm
Kovalev could box another 400 years and he will still not have the data bank that Hopkins has… His skills have kept him World Class for as long as Kova has been alive… Time has dimmed his light and it along with another boxer will eventually snuff it out but the ride has been unprecedented.. Its a JOKE to compare Kovalev with barely any World Class experience to Hops in the skills category, when is the last time that Nard faced a guy like Caparello? a nobody? Kovalev has had what 5 scheduled 12 rounders? GTFOH…Posted August 7, 2014 3:35 pm
was he on PEDS.Posted August 7, 2014 3:33 pm
Roy Jones is the only fighter to outbox Nard and that was years ago at 160lbs.Posted August 7, 2014 2:35 pm
I’m so over you, no name.Posted August 7, 2014 2:30 pm
Squeal, if that’s all it took to be Hopkins then we would se ALOT more Hopkins out there..I have seen PLENTY of guys dirtier and bigger punchers but they did not accomplish a FRACTION of what Nard has and certainly did not last as long… Stop you whining if Kovalev is the goods he will flatten Hops or at least beat the 50 year old man up…Posted August 7, 2014 12:45 pm
Eric, I hold out the possibility that GGG might be the real deal but as of today he has been banking the scalps of a number of sub par pugilists.. My opinions can be changed over time and being powerful can sometimes be enough… That said he is NOT a masterboxer so talk to the contrary sounds pretty foolish…Posted August 7, 2014 12:43 pm
B – hop TBE. Need I say more.Posted August 7, 2014 11:13 am
To para phrase sredmond
Hopkins has never been out clinched or out blind side kidney punched or out head butted. The man is atg.Posted August 7, 2014 11:04 am
3G has all the tools it seems to smash all commers and be a ATG. 3G will be big in the sport of boxing if you like it or not.Posted August 7, 2014 11:00 am
Sredmen uses the same arguments in defending Hopkins as he uses in trashing wlad.. klitschko.Posted August 7, 2014 10:57 am
Kovalev is a power puncher that is his #1 asset he is NOT some sort of virtuoso boxer and neither is Golovkin… All these FALSE attributes given to them from a technical standpoint are simply comical.. Both men are STRONG, seemingly Durable and Hard punchers… Beyond that there is NOTHING that sets them apart from a lot of other guys in the sport especially because they have so little World Class Experience…Posted August 7, 2014 9:44 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
Happyboy – I Agree with you!Posted August 7, 2014 8:34 am
Kovalev is ATG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Period.Posted August 7, 2014 8:32 am
Roach-either your stupid or blind! You have never seen B-Hop take a beating in his life, Calzaghe out pointed him, he beat Taylor the second fight, Dawson out boxed him…He’s never took a beating by anybody! He broke Carlos Monzon middle weight record…WTF are you talking about??Posted August 7, 2014 4:46 am
A 50-year old man is taking on a young, strong in-his-prime puncher from cold Russia and folks are still belittling the old man and making all kinds of disparaging comments about him. I typically don’t root for Hopkins but I’d love to see him win just to gloat over the misery and disbelief of his haters but I realize Hopkins has no prayer. Anyway, Kovalev is good not great his biggest assest is his big punch which gives him a lot of confidence and that overconfidence will be his downfall. It’s just a matter of time before he gets a solid hiding from a craftsman like a prime Hopkins or James Toney even Roy Jones in his prime would’ve dispatched him with relative ease. Kovalev will be a footnote in the LH History books as I don’t see him dominating for long.Posted August 7, 2014 1:45 am
Hopkins beat Taylor IMO … But Taylor is a terrible boxer, and Hopkins didn’t make it obvious enough for those sleepy judges — who couldn’t count.
Hopkins just lacks power and hasn’t stopped anybody in his last 16 fights… Anybody who can punch flattened Taylor … so they didn’t need judges.Posted August 7, 2014 1:42 am
B Red says.., “Kovalev is robotic and can’t fght gping backwards.”
You must be thinking of Mikkel Kessler, because Kovalev is very fluid and fast … and boxes very well backing up..
Watch Kovalev’s fight with undefeated LHW Champion Nathan Cleverly, 26-0, on youtube — and see how easily Kovalev moves in and out.. He easily outboxed a world champion who easily beat mandatory challengers for Hopkins and Stevenson.
Kovalev is very skilled, and doesn’t get out-boxed before he destroys people… Hopkins has been out-boxed several times.Posted August 7, 2014 1:24 am
So that would HOF’s like Evander Holyfield, Bernard Hopkins, Marvin Hagler, Joe Frazier, and plenty more. You wanna watch ballet then go the ballerina arena..Posted August 6, 2014 11:48 pm
@Happyboy – “cause he said ” He’ll never loose to a whiteboy” in a network owned by whiteman, fool. Hopkins never lost that fight. Go watch it again.”
He lost due to a whiteman owning the network? Seriously?
@Happyboy – “Jermain Taylor was also a gift decision, mtf was exposed straight after by one dimensional boxers who were never at Hopkins level.”
More rubbish. Taylor beat him fair and square in both fights, though Hopkins did mount a good comeback in the latter rounds as Taylor tired.
” Boxtra that’s the first sensible thing you’ve said in weeks. A moment of clarity?”-YES it is. For YOU. I say things that are sensible everyday. 99.9% of it is over YOUR head though.Posted August 6, 2014 11:28 pm
Jermain Taylor was also a gift decision, mtf was exposed straight after by one dimensional boxers who were never at Hopkins level.Posted August 6, 2014 11:08 pm
cause he said ” He’ll never loose to a whiteboy” in a network owned by whiteman, fool. Hopkins never lost that fight. Go watch it again.Posted August 6, 2014 11:06 pm
Why would Cal get a ‘gift decision’ in Hopkins home country? Swedish dumba/ss.Posted August 6, 2014 10:12 pm
Kovalev is robotic and can’t fght gping backwards.Posted August 6, 2014 9:57 pm
Top 10 over used words, and or Phrases used on ESB, in no order. 1. ” doesn’t bring enough money to the table” 2. Elite, 3. Bum, 4. PFP, 5. Hall of famer, 6. b level fighter, 7. c level fighter, 8. Fan base, 9. PEDS, !0…. MAYWEATHER. LOL.Posted August 6, 2014 9:52 pm
All the drama and biases aside, the smart money is obviously on SK. Anything can happen in the ring, and B-Hop is the master of low-down trickery in addition to skills and experience, but SK adapts to the opponent during the course of the fight and is usually at the right range- also he is amazingly accurate and quick with his shots- and doesn’t mind mixing up the head and body shots- hope we get a relatively clean fight from BHPosted August 6, 2014 9:47 pm
” There is no evidences indicating that Bernard Hopkins would use any kind of steroids.”
There’s no evidence indicating that he wouldn’t.Posted August 6, 2014 9:35 pm
I think Bernard should change his ring name to “Walnut Head.”Posted August 6, 2014 9:34 pm
Lara was more concerned with trying to make Canello look foolish than actually trying to out fight or out box him . He doesn’t deserve or has he earned another big money fight. Who would pay to see him run around the ring.Posted August 6, 2014 8:50 pm
Hopkins did nothing to Taylor but get him 2 wins. Pavlik, Froch, and Abraham smashed Taylor right into the canvas.Posted August 6, 2014 8:06 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
Jermain Taylor and Joe Calzaghe got gift decisions. It was close fights but Hopkins was the better fighter in all 3 fights.
He lost the Taylor fights becouse of he started little late to impresse + HBO wanted Taylor as he was at the time there rising star investment. Taylor never became the champion he was so promising to become after he fought Hopkins. After Hopkins Taylor’s fights was weak for a young champion.
Joe Calzaghe won becouse of political bulls#it with whiteman trash Hopkins used to Hype up the fight sellings.
I don’t always agree with SREDMOND, but he has made solid arguments on this thread. As a Kovalev fan I agree. He should dominate the old man, let’s see it happen!Posted August 6, 2014 7:33 pm
ANY EXCUSES TONIGHT ROY???
Hopkins bit the dust a long time ago. Beatings by Taylor, Calzaghe, Dawson, Jones, etc, slowed him down. If he’s an alien he ought to get himself a green card.Posted August 6, 2014 7:32 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
This is just absurd. There is no evidences indicating that Bernard Hopkins would use any kind of steroids.
Does Bernard Hopkins body look like it is steroid pumped or ripped? Do he looks stronger then when he was a young man?
NO. Bernard Hopkins is still here in the top of the game based on 3 important things.
1. He works-out hard and he have a very good balance in all his training and still at 50 he is a “Gym rat” and also runs a lot of miles every week.
2. Hopkins is no drinker, no drugger, smoker, no meat eater. He is very precise about what he eats and how much he must eat to have a perfect balance with his training, his weight checking and overall health.
3. Hopkins is an excellent studier of boxers and boxing styles and never gets tired of it or overlooks his opponents best sides and there bad sides.
Bernard Hopkins have said that many times that he is still around because he follows all these mentioned things and that he have seen many good boxers fallen from the top because they have stopped followed those important things a boxer needs to follow in order to stay sharp and in best possible shape.Posted August 6, 2014 7:07 pm
I’ve not heard any valid rumors about Bhop juicing other than speculation based on his age. Now if there was some Biogenesis type report out there then it’s valid without a positive test because there’s strong proof. But we can’t accuse every athlete who performs exceptional feats a PED user.Posted August 6, 2014 6:37 pm
Every time someone has success the cool thing to do on the net is post that there on PEDS. 90% of these posts are BS sheep following.Posted August 6, 2014 5:45 pm
Sounds like a lot of hopkins fans here. I saw the video. Bernard looks guilty when he pushed Pascal. If you werent guilty then Bernard wouldnt care what anyone says but his reaction shows guilt big time !Posted August 6, 2014 4:57 pm
Dan, so we are supposed to take the word of a Doofus like Jean Pascal who was talking out of his azz… He let an OLD fighter beat him to the punch and win he should be shot… Hops does NOT even eat meat let alone shoot up… You scared he is gonna wax Kova??Posted August 6, 2014 4:04 pm
hopkins a rare form,trians and takes care of himself year round,no need to cheat!!Posted August 6, 2014 3:43 pm
Watch the press conferance of Hopkins and Pascal when Pascal said TAKE THE TEST to HOPKINS ! Hopkins needs to be tested ! It’s been rumored for years that he’s on ( peds ). Hopkins cheats !Posted August 6, 2014 3:36 pm
Hibdee, you discussed relevance and I explained Lara’s TRUE place in the pecking order… Talented fighter with NO fanbase and NO buzz at the moment..Posted August 6, 2014 3:35 pm
Tark, again I was counting on Dawsons youth and strength to finally take down an OLD AZZ fighter.. Anthony Mundine stopped Mosley would that have happened if Sugar was close to prime? Camacho stopped Leonard would that have happened if he was close to prime?? Dawson looked physically tremendous that first bout with Hopkins and he was unusually MEAN… I thought maybe during this rematch Dawson is gonna overwhelm him? he had Pascal in trouble before that butt shortened the night…Besides Dawson was facing BETTER boxers than Kovalev who is feasting on C listers to pad his resume… KO records compiled against fodder have to be seen for what they arePosted August 6, 2014 3:34 pm
“Hidbee, lets see Lara and his title go do a PPV??? ”
PPV does not define a fighter as a boxer. Whether he ever does a PPV on his own is irrelevant. What is relevant is who is going to challenge him for his title and try to take and/or whose title Lara will challenge for and try to take.Posted August 6, 2014 3:02 pm
Hopkins slick and elusive? Bullsh!t man… He didn’t want to fight. He just jabbed, grabbed, ran, held-n-hit, and ran some more… He gave the Dawson fight away by stinking the joint out… He couldn’t outbox Chad in a million years.Posted August 6, 2014 2:29 pm
Sredmond’s ignorance in full bloom.., “I thought Dawson would after the way he was so nasty in the short bout and slammed him… But when the Old Man got slick and elusive he could not land the telling blow that took him out…” … LMFAO!!!
Chad Dawson is a pure boxer you IDIOT… He’s not a KO artist like Kovalev… Dawson has one KO win in his last 11 fights… It came over a guy who’s been KO’d four (4) times in his last six (6) fights.
Dawson has more KO losses than wins in his last 10 fights… He took care of Hopkins in his usual way… He outboxed him.Posted August 6, 2014 2:07 pm
another white guy beats this racist old pr1ck.Posted August 6, 2014 1:35 pm
Sredmond I agree with you if kovalev losses to Hopkins then he is nothing special but I don’t see it that way , it could be one if those fight that ends in dQ but either way kovalev wins this. .Posted August 6, 2014 1:18 pm
I fear for B-HOP in this one, he could get seriously hurt by this recking machine………….Posted August 6, 2014 1:07 pm
Adrian, again maybe you have proportion but there are a lot of folks saying that Kovalev is gonna be the guy to lay out Hops.. I thought Dawson would after the way he was so nasty in the short bout and slammed him… But when the Old Man got slick and elusive he could not land the telling blow that took him out… Like I said if Kova loses to this guy its a BULLET to the reputation because suddenly you have a dude who was knocking out C listers then loses to a SUPER Old ATG? The old are supposed to take the young… We have Tark trying to sell Kova as a superior boxer to Hopkins which is nuts so I am gonna bring the hammer if this guy craps the bed…Posted August 6, 2014 12:21 pm
After hopkins beat kovalev by split decision then he will beat stevenson then his bodied will be battered then he will retirePosted August 6, 2014 12:21 pm
I meant 90/10 *Posted August 6, 2014 12:08 pm
Sredmond , actually I have almost the same opinion as your odds of 60/40 I give it more like 70/30 for kovalev but my odds that the fight will be dull is 90/20 because of Hopkins style .
Hidbee, Canelo did not look good in that matchup but he enjoys the benefit of fans who place the bulk of the blame with Lara right or wrong… Erislandy’s style did not resonate with Mexican fans who like that more toe to toe style or more consistent engagement… We will see Canelo again on PPV, whereas Lara is gonna do what? Sadly he will have a tough time getting a fight on Showtime anytime soon.. I like Lara but that that was the night for him to really stretch it and make a statement..Posted August 6, 2014 12:04 pm
Adrian, I actually give the edge to Kovalev based on youth, workrate and strength 60/40…. That said if he is outboxed or narrowly wins against this OLD man I will not be impressed… A loss is simply NOT consistent with the BUZZ you guys have going on about Kovalev! At the end of the day Hops is 50, if you can tell me another of another so called Future Great in his prime who was defeated by a 50 year old I am ALL ears….Posted August 6, 2014 11:16 am
Hidbee, lets see Lara and his title go do a PPV??? I like Lara and he is certainly a talented fighter but he unfortunately moved into Rigondeaux territory with his performance which right or wrong turned off fans…Again where is the $$$$$$$ coming from to fight Lara? While on the biggest stage of his career his performance was NOT crowd pleasing despite his skill….Where are the throngs of fans screaming “Lara” ????? There are NONE meanwhile Alvarez is one of the top 4 PPV attractions in the sport today.Posted August 6, 2014 11:14 am
Good match up. Young vs old……….black vs white……..American vs Russian……..Bomber vs Wise old man, this will be a great money maker and a great match. Bernie is manning up at LHW. He has some balls.Posted August 6, 2014 11:11 am
Lara talked all that sht. about Canelo and when he got his chance he ran. “if you wanna run go to marathon…lolPosted August 6, 2014 11:11 am
“Right now Lara has slipped off the radar despite his talent, he did not gain many fans the night he faced Canelo and has less than no leverage to fight him anytime soon..”
Well, fix your dish SRedmond. Lara hasn’t dropped off anyone’s radar. Lara still has his title while Canelo is going around fight at catchweights. More importantly, Canelo also looked like sh!T when he and Lara fought.Posted August 6, 2014 10:41 am
Big Martha Stanford
Sheriff I hope your a Texas law enforcement type’s. I like them Mean and Bad ! Frisk me !Posted August 6, 2014 10:34 am
Lol sredmond , ” you guys” who is you guys ? Hold your horses there they still haven’t fought and you act like Hopkins just beat him ….
The fact is Hopkins still figures as the top dog at lhw devision yeah he is 50 but he is not ranked based on his past achievement when he was in his prime but based on current wins !
I am saying looking good against Hopkins it’s almost impossible because of his style and if I give Hopkins a chance , (although a slight chance )in this fight to get a decision it’s not because kovalev is a hype job and overated but because no one ever dominated Hopkins and looked good against him .
Tark, Caparello was considered a NO HOPER and Agnews competition leading up to Kovalev was LAUGHABLE point is that Sergey has not had many solid fighters in the ring… Dan Rafael who is otherwise positive on Kovalev from what I can gather said that Caparello did NOT deserve to be fighting the Krusher on HBO…And contrary to some of your prior foolishness, Nathan Cleverly is NOT a Joe Calzaghe proxy…Posted August 6, 2014 9:15 am
Adrian, I have you FRUSTRATED as usual, GOOD!!!!! reality is that you guys have built Kovalev up to the heavens and many are predicting that he is gonna lay waste to Hopkins..OK NOW he is gonna have to make it happen and the fact that Nard is 50 years old is VERY relevant! If Kovalev lost he would indeed look like pretender given the LOFTY expectations hoisted upon him.. You cannot come to NFL training camp with the expectation of running a 4.3 40 and then run a 4.7 and expect to be as highly touted or perhaps even signed…Posted August 6, 2014 9:09 am
Tark, NO ONE is sitting around really buying your thesis on Lara ie “he should offer Canelo a rematch” the judges did NOT buy his case and the sport has moved on… Right now Lara has slipped off the radar despite his talent, he did not gain many fans the night he faced Canelo and has less than no leverage to fight him anytime soon..Posted August 6, 2014 9:02 am
PaTrice Jones and Redmond have the beat as far as Hopkins goes.
To be a world class fighter at 50 years of age is a truly awe inspiring achievement .Posted August 6, 2014 6:25 am
I can say, without embarrassment that I am a highly competent individual and a force to be reckoned with.
None of this however would, I feel, prepare me to properly allocate the required care and attention due to all parts of a 270lb rump. I don`t know that any mortal man would be up this task.Posted August 6, 2014 3:00 am
“Smart business move by Hopkins to be the first one to open the door for Golden Boy to come back over to HBO which is also GOOD news for Boxing Fans. This eliminates the EXCUSE that a guy can’t Fight the guy because he’s on the other network.” – Boxtra that’s the first sensible thing you’ve said in weeks. A moment of clarity? Or is this the supposed ‘fake’ Boxtra?Posted August 6, 2014 2:12 am
Tark,don’t get your knickers in a twist,I was merely stating facts,that Kovalev hasn’t beaten any decent opponents yet.Please don’t try and present Clev as decent,he was a paper champ,whose best win was probably Tony” who” Bellew.You should know you can’t polish a Turd,but don’t try rolling one in glitter either.I’m not suggesting Kovalev isn’t a good lhw, we just don’t know how good yet,as his comp has been a bit soft.”Posted August 6, 2014 2:06 am
tark ❤ isabelle
big martha ❤ sheriffPosted August 6, 2014 2:02 am
Murray isn’t slower than Canelo.. Don’t exaggerate.. And that’s why I said he should try Murray. You want to fight somebody you can beat — if you want to position yourself as a middleweight contender.
Lara is the World Champion at 154… He should offer the top contender (Canelo) a title shot… That would be a very interesting rematch and Canelo said he’s staying at 154.Posted August 5, 2014 11:52 pm
Murray is SLOWER than Canelo. And Canelo could barely catch him with any GOOD punches.Posted August 5, 2014 11:33 pm
Lara would beat Murray with EASE. Murray won’t land ANY GOOD shots. Its a SPEED MISMATCH.Posted August 5, 2014 11:33 pm
Lara has to get a win… and show he can beat a middleweight contender. Maybe he should challenge Martin Murray.Posted August 5, 2014 11:27 pm
Golovkin not facing Lara because Lara is on Showtime is no longer an EXCUSE. Hopkins just showed that he can come over to HBO for YOU.Posted August 5, 2014 11:13 pm
B Red.., They haven’t fought yet.. Hop can always pull a David Haye style injury out of his hat.
I’ll be amazed if this fight actually comes off, but for now Hopkins is lapping up the publicity, and that may be all he’s after.Posted August 5, 2014 10:47 pm
@greg – “That is a steroid trait. Angry burst off’s”
Not an EPO trait though. EPO does nothing to testosterone levels (i.e. the hormone linked to aggression).Posted August 5, 2014 10:43 pm
Smart business move by Hopkins to be the first one to open the door for Golden Boy to come back over to HBO which is also GOOD news for Boxing Fans. This eliminates the EXCUSE that a guy can’t Fight the guy because he’s on the other network. SO that makes it harder for Arum to hide his guys. He’s having Pacquiao Fight Algieri when there is NO EXCUSE to not put him in with Thurman or Porter. MUCH Congrats to Hopkins.Posted August 5, 2014 10:11 pm
I knew that Hopkins wasn’t ducking Kovalev all along. Kovalev is the one who made the first move to duck the Fight. He went after Cleverly before the IBF ordered the purse bid because he knew Cleverly was the EASIER Fight. I APPLAUDED him on the SMART business move. The first goal is to get you a belt. By any means necessary.Posted August 5, 2014 10:08 pm
Tark was running his mouth for months saying Bhop was ducking Kovalev. NOW GO BACK TO YOUR SHED, YOU FOOKIN TOOL!!!!Posted August 5, 2014 9:14 pm
“If your not cheating your not trying hard enough I guess” aleast he was never associated with PED’s.Posted August 5, 2014 8:42 pm
The IBF gave Bernard a deadline to put a unification together or face a mandatory for a lot less money. Golden Boy tried to put something together with Adonis Stevenson but he dragged his feet! So in comes Kathy Duva with Kovalev and puts the fight together making the deadline. I assure you Bernard was not looking for the young Russian I can assure you of that…have a nice day.Posted August 5, 2014 8:25 pm
Don’t get confused TATK…
Teddt atlas is drinkin to much jack daniels….but hes on target a lot of the time…He knows triple g is the man ….’
Bernard was good in his day….not a great….His mouthing off makes him great…tutes his own horn….he forsake the game of boxing for money…..old time boxers would turn in there graves if they seen whats goin on today…
Hopkins…had to take the fight….
Slim..,”don’t bet the house.”
I’ll wait to see how big a fav Kov is… If he’s 40:1 no bet.Posted August 5, 2014 7:21 pm
Sredmond, the hate filled jackass rants.., “Caparello was a NO HOPER … Agnews opposition was simply terrible you can sell them as a couple “Undefeated Mayweathers”
Who called them undefeated Mayweathers???
You’re a ridiculous idiot. A poster said Kovalev hasn’t fought a decent opponent. I challenged that ignorant statement.
They were decent undefeated opponents. They’re not on the same level Nathan Cleverly was when Kovalev smashed him out early — but they were decent opponents…
They were the best LHW’s in the world who were willing to fight Sergei Kovalev.Posted August 5, 2014 7:11 pm
ESB stop deleting comments! People are entitled to have an opinion. I didn’t say anything offensive or controversial. You are dix at times.
^welcome to ESB.Posted August 5, 2014 6:54 pm
Larry Holmes was not a classy guy. When he was asked how he would do against Marciano if he had any class and professional respect he would have said it would have been great fight but I believe I would have beaten him instead of saying he couldn’t carry my jock strap. After all MRciano had passed on and They weren’t trying to sell tickets. Holmes is a bitter man because he never got the adulation Ali gets.Posted August 5, 2014 6:31 pm
ESB stop deleting comments! People are entitled to have an opinion. I didn’t say anything offensive or controversial. You are dix at times.Posted August 5, 2014 6:22 pm
Caparello was a NO HOPER so cut the crap Tark, Agnews opposition was simply terrible you can sell them as a couple “Undefeated Mayweathers” but no one absent a fool or another guy with Kovalevs pecker on his tonsils is buying that nonsense..Posted August 5, 2014 6:15 pm
I went to that fight in Las Vegas…No Bernard did not beat Calzaghe! He was out worked period. Have a nice day..Posted August 5, 2014 6:11 pm
Big Martha Stanford
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“Roy Jones.., “He didn’t kill Hopkins. He beat him by Split D. Wow.””
But Calzaghe did stymie Hopkins’ legend. For a bit. And everybody knows it killed Bernie that he couldn’t beat that “white boy.”Posted August 5, 2014 6:00 pm
Whoever is sitting up here trying to put Bernard Hopkins in the same conversation with Adolph Hitler needs to do the world a favor and take a “dirty nap”…lolPosted August 5, 2014 5:57 pm
Big Martha Stanford
Sheriff I love you! Please arrest me ive been a very bad girl :)Posted August 5, 2014 5:50 pm
GingerWhinger says.., “Kovalev hasn’t beaten a decent opponent yet.”
Yeah RIGHT… His last 5 opponents were only 113-2.. Not too impressive because only 3 were undefeated… He obliterated them in 18 rounds, which is also not too impressive.
The only reason Kovalev hasn’t KO’d Stevenson yet is Adonis doesn’t want to face Kovalev—and had a very hard time beating a feather punching pushover in his last fight.
Meanwhile…you have to go back 17 fights to find one where Hopkins stopped anybody. Bernard couldn’t even stop a “mandatory” challenger who Nathan Cleverly stopped. Bellew was a mandatory challenger for Stevenson—another guy Nathan Cleverly previously beat.
Of course, none of that makes Cleverly a “decent” opponent. He was just an undefeated World Light Heavyweight Champion, 26-0, who was defending his title at home. Hopkins didn’t want to travel to Wales to fight Cleverly. Kovalev goes where the opportunity lies.Posted August 5, 2014 5:24 pm
TARK……boy you should put that quote in context. He said that after Hopkins repeatedly referred to himself as a legend and Calzaghe as nobody.
You are fined $50.Posted August 5, 2014 5:15 pm
Oooooh SREDMOND wants segregation in comparisons now, Hitler can`t sit next to Hopkins.
Sorry you pinko punk NO DEAL.
Hitler planned his atrocities. Hopkins planned his white biy statements. It wasn`t heat of the moment. It was planned. THAT is the comparison.
Boy, you just got shot down by the Sheriff, you ain`t no Clapton, and you ain`t no Marley.Posted August 5, 2014 5:14 pm
Now Calzaghe is reduced to a coke head…And Bernard is still fighting top competition at 49.Posted August 5, 2014 5:08 pm
Calzaghe.., “I’m the legend killer.”
Roy Jones.., “He didn’t kill Hopkins. He beat him by Split D. Wow.”Posted August 5, 2014 4:58 pm
Read Nard, not WardPosted August 5, 2014 4:55 pm
While I both dislike and admire aspects of Bernard Hopkins character,one cannot deny that he is an inspiration to all boxers,maybe to all athletes.How many athletes touching 50 are still competing at top level? Name one.I think Ward should be applauded for taking such a dangerous fight at his age.That being said,Kovalev hasn’t beaten a decent opponent yet.Kovalev has serious power,but that’s not a threat to Hopkins.His kryptonite is super athleticism and high workmates for 12 rounds.Kovalev can deliver neither.If BHop can weather the first 4 rounds,he’ll win.Posted August 5, 2014 4:54 pm
Calzaghe was a good fighter but he couldn’t murder a pubic hair STFU.Posted August 5, 2014 4:45 pm
Enough with the “racist” comments already. The guy made ONE comment in a 20+ year career (and a mild one at best) and some people want to hang on to that like it’s the last lifeboat on the Titanic. He threw the Puerto Rican flag to the floor before the Tito fight and no Rican thinks the guy “hates” Puerto Ricans (we did make him run like a girl that day, though). That’s just stuff that happens during a fight.Posted August 5, 2014 4:24 pm
Saying, “No white boy is going to beat me” crosses the line.”
That’s making race the issue… and does nothing for race relations.
It’s also very stupid. Two of the judges might be white, and not too bright.
That was the dumbest comment since Larry Holmes said, “Marciano couldn’t carry my jock strap” just before his rematch with Michael Spinks … Didn’t help him.Posted August 5, 2014 4:23 pm
Putting Hopkins in the same sentence as Hitler is both CORNY and LAUGHABLE… Hitler is a confirmed Mass Murderer that presided over one of the Great Genocides in modern history… Hopkins is a boxer with a BIG mouth, if you cannot tell the difference then that’s an issue of another sort…Posted August 5, 2014 3:51 pm
Fight Aficionado, Nard is a legend that we agree on and he will fight anyone but LIKE Mayweather he is also a REBEL and does things his way… Remember Nard departed his promoter and cost himself MILLIONS back in the day, he waited till he was 36 to get the shot against Felix, then he fought Oscar for BIG $$$ at the age of 39… Like everyone else in the sport he called out Mayweather who is TINY compared to him in order to try and get a payday that resembles what he got against Oscar… If Hopkins had Mayweathers command of the sport, ability to get paying customers in seats and Al Haymon he would be doing EXACTLY what Floyd is doing so he does NOT need to be fighting for single digit millions at 50 years old… Mayweather made 105 mill in a year that’s what matters when the smoke clears, that’s why he is the BOSS despite my respect for the Executioner..Posted August 5, 2014 3:05 pm
Hopkins is HARDLY “full of hate” he jokes around with Interviewers and he creates controversy to sell his fights he went too far with Calzaghe but pretending the Executioner is this RAGE filled maniac is not consistent with his fighting style nor his conduct outside the ring… Since his incarceration when has Hops been jailed or in trouble? he is KNOWN to be conservative with his $$$$ he had most of it in Treasuries according to him when the market crashed.. After he BEAT Kelly Pavliks AZZ he gave him words of wisdom and told him that his future was at 160 and he needed to get “slicker” Nard is a HARD man that is why he can still fight at an age when other guys have been trainers for 15 years…If he was the WORST guy ever and such a tool wouldn’t cosmic justice demand he STOP setting records??? Fact is that for all the ANGRY NARD haters he is giving you ANOTHER chance to see him smashed and bleeding while facing a PRIME young fighter… Kovalev has a chance to be the FIRST guy to stop or really beat the hell out of Hopkins…So lets see it happen!!! May the BEST man win!!! But if Hopkins takes this guy to school he deserves to be seriously CLOWNED because he is facing a 50 year old…Posted August 5, 2014 2:50 pm
“Bernard has to be admired for continuing to take on the types of challenges he takes, as well as for his skill and dedication. There really is no one quite like Bernard out there. If Mayweather were more like BHop, he would have fought Pac already.” – Cosign. Say what you want about his dirty tactics, Bhop stepped up while the cherry picking ducker Stevenson ran behind Showtime’s skirt. Now Bhop is in a potential history-making fight and Stevenson is in no man’s land. Bhop deserves props for taking a tough unification fight instead of doing that mandatory defense against whatshisname.Posted August 5, 2014 2:47 pm
Kovalev will win by UD. Could be a couple knockdowns but Bhop is savvy as a fox. He’ll use every trick like hold, head butt and rabbit punch to last the full 12. What I don’t expect is he’ll be able to nullify Kovalev’s offense like he did to Pavlik.Posted August 5, 2014 2:44 pm
Hopkins full of hate, racist and disrectful to peoplePosted August 5, 2014 2:17 pm
EAZY fight for Kovalev. B-no-Hop – will be KOd in lass then 5 rounds for sure………………………………..Posted August 5, 2014 1:58 pm
Bhop by split decisionPosted August 5, 2014 1:23 pm
I favor Kovalev for this one, but c’mon people! Bernard has to be admired for continuing to take on the types of challenges he takes, as well as for his skill and dedication. There really is no one quite like Bernard out there. If Mayweather were more like BHop, he would have fought Pac already. Is he dirty? Sure, but even his head butts have a level of finesse and subtlety to them. this is not Victor Ortiz just acting like a ram in there, Bernard almost makes it seem you decided to cut your own eyelid against his head, he’s so wily about it. And this is a guy who really has done everything he’s done without amazing speed, or KO power (perhaps that’s why he’s been able to do it for so long, because he didn’t depend on physical attributes so much). Bernard Hopkins is an all-time great fighter win or lose to Kovalev. And if even if Sergei does beat him, he has a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go before he can be mentioned in the same historical perspective as The Executioner (sorry Hopkins, The Alien just sounds weird to me).Posted August 5, 2014 1:05 pm
ANONYMOUS…you stupid idiot crab lice. Of course Calzaghe would be vilified if he said “I would never let a nig beat me” that’s not the same thing as “I would never let a white boy beat me”…you just couldn’t resist using the word nig.Posted August 5, 2014 12:30 pm
Hopkins big mouth helped do him in when he said no white boy would beat him. The judges were out to show him that they had the final say. He will not get the close rounds, only the ones he can steal in the last 10 seconds of the round. Hpokins is not a likable person , does not want to be liked and Is out to get the most money he can get, then thumb his nose at boxing when he is done.Posted August 5, 2014 12:11 pm
Danny, you seem leery of Kovalev chances against this old man… He should be able to handle ANYTHING this Grandpa throws at him if he is as dangerous as he looks against low level competition.. He handled Caparello with no issues so why the hesitation?? Ahhhhhh because even at 50 Hopkins is NOT Caparello and there are levels to this game…Posted August 5, 2014 11:38 am
Typo, Kovalev, a hard puncherPosted August 5, 2014 11:27 am
Lots of brothers sticking up for dirty fighter Hopkins. The apple doesnt fall far fromt he treePosted August 5, 2014 11:24 am
Kobalev however, cannot be taken lightly, he’s big, a hard pincher, and realPosted August 5, 2014 11:12 am
Hops boxing ability is what brought him to where he’s at, his personality, ethnic beliefs, vocabulary or public statements have nothing to do with his dedication, discipline or physical ability…. If it’s time to retire he will know after the Kovalev fight….whether people like him or not is of no consequence, only what he does in the ringPosted August 5, 2014 11:05 am
Hopkins thinks that Kovalev is “just like the ones that came before him,” – except that Sergey isn’t, and that’s why Bernard will not survive the beating which Sergey will administer to him.Posted August 5, 2014 11:04 am
So Hopkins has never taken a serious beating in a fight in his almost 50 years of age, which is very impressive, yet if Kovalev does anything less than that he’s overhyped. Sorry, but that strawman argument does’nt work. There are many ways to win impressively in a fight.Posted August 5, 2014 11:02 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
SREDMOND – Good posts my friend! That is my point as well. Bernard Hopkins is so much more then what to many people say he is, what he have done and what makes him still be here. He is a active legend and still on top of the PRO boxing game again, even as he is near 50 years old!
Sergey Kovalev will get the fight of his life against Hopkins.Posted August 5, 2014 10:55 am
Again if that’s all there was to Hopkins then there would be 20, 50 year old fighters operating at his level… SRL was getting TKOED by a light puncher like Hector Camacho at 40, Shane Mosley just got TKOed by Anthony Mundine, Pac Man jumped 2 weight classes and showed Oscar it was OVA… FACT is that Hopkins can FIGHT and his opponents KNOW it and they don’t train for facing a guy who is 50 years old… This is a combat sport and if a guy gets rought with you then GET rough back!! I applauded Dawson flipping Hops on his AZZ and thought that in the rematch the VERY angry and YOUNG Dawson would really beat the Old Man up!!! BUT it NEVER happened, Chad outworked him and left the contest cut and looking worse than Nard who STILL has never been given that career ending beating that 90% of formerly Great fighters have to take.. If Kovalev is the goods, if he is the future of the division then he is going to be overwhelming against his guy in his 3rd decade of boxing…If he walks away with a loss of any kind, barely getting by Nard or anything of that nature then estimates of him should be reigned in… If Bernard is just a fouling fighter who really sucks then Kovalev should be able to unmask that at 50 years old…Posted August 5, 2014 10:06 am
If a white person made similar comments he would absolutely be crucified. Also, if someone like Tiger Woods made those comments, he too would be crucified. Really a reflection on double standard with race and also how little most people care about boxing. Truthfully, a lot of people dont even know who Hopkins is. Everyone knows Tigers Woods or LeBron James for instance.Posted August 5, 2014 9:17 am
Hopkins is a true ATG fighter, he is polarizing and I can see why some people are NOT fond of him but the mans skill and commitment to the sport are exemplary.. Those who reduce his toolbox to “holding, rabbit punching and butting” are either blind or so consumed with rage they refuse to give a fair interpretation of his career..If all it took to build the legacy that Hops has at age 50, was illegality then trust me you would see ALOT more fighters doing it and avoiding KO’s and booking big wins over guys 20 years their junior…We see a FEW brave souls outright declaring that Kovalev is gonna lay Hops out in a few short rounds, they are drunk on Kovalevs consistent KO’s of C listers and grossly overmatched opponents like Caparello.. Then you see a number who are grudgingly giving Hops a path to victory if he is abusive towards Kovalev, well Newsflash in pro sports if you let a guy who is 18 years your senior (especially when the guy is 50), push you around, manhandle you or beat your azz then you are simply the LESSOR fighter…He fought a negative bout but the fact that Hops STILL had Chad Dawson who has fast hands swinging at air might not bode well for Sergey who is SLOWER and more predictable in his attack than Dawson… I know that Tark and others will sell him as the GREATEST combination puncher in boxing (better than Manny or Roy Jones at their peaks) but that’s simply NOT true… Kovalev is a STRONG, POWERFUL and determined fighter but he is NOT anyone tricky boxer… Bernard sees something he can take advantage of, and the lay person on a message board is NOT gonna see those subtle things the way his TRAINED boxing brain does… I always love hearing Roy Jones pickup something that proves to be important early ie “Khan better watch out for that overhand right of Maidanas” or I don’t like Paul Williams in with this slick Cuban lefty (Lara) or Martinez better not make the mistake of thinking that Cotto can’t hurt him” 2 seconds later BOOM! Martinez is staggering… Again these are boxing masters who might not be able to 100% execute on what they know due to the ravages of time but they see the openings and opportunities… Kovalev is gonna have to validate the hype, he has EVERYTHING to lose should he be embarrassed by Hopkins then expectations of him will DROP in proportion to how bad the loss is.Posted August 5, 2014 9:10 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
Bob Loblaw / Adrian – Thanks for your kind words my friends :-)
Well I forgott to mention som more stats.
Thanks again :-)Posted August 5, 2014 9:02 am
Can you imagaine if Calzaghe said a comment of ” I’ll never let a black person beat me ” There would be a uproar and demostration rascism rallyPosted August 5, 2014 8:57 am
Hopkins the masterror of fighting. Let’s see master of rabbit punching, holding, stalling, head rams, low blows, crying, lying, racism, hating, trears his fans like crap, and this makes a great fighter. This is why people go else where but boxing nowadays.Posted August 5, 2014 8:16 am
Hopkins hasnt fought a legitimate puncher since Pascal three years ago. He was on the canvas then, and his punch resistance has only declined in the last 3 years. He actually hasn’t fought a lot of big punchers in his career, and at nearly 50, Kovalev is a tough one to go up against. Sure, he can outbox Kovalev, but he would need to deflect nearly everything from this guy, which he wasnt able to do against the light punching Shumenov and Murat. Hopkins has nothing to lose, but his health in this fight.Posted August 5, 2014 7:39 am
lol who chooses these pics? BrilliantPosted August 5, 2014 7:30 am
Common sense tells me Kovalev, but guys we are talking about BHOP here. The master of strategy. He has seen a weakness in him which he will exploit. It may not look pretty but something tells me BHOP by easy decision.Posted August 5, 2014 7:22 am
Well Bill Patrice JOnes, I am sure Hitler only gassed a bunch of kikes in the heat of the moment.
He`s not really racist, I mean, he had a hard upbringing and everythingPosted August 5, 2014 6:31 am
Unsatisfying.Posted August 5, 2014 5:42 am
Hopkins has had a terrific career no doubt. The problem is Hopkins older version is a cynical fighter aided and abetted by weak referees who don’t enforce Queensberry rules. His attraction is ‘how far can a 50 year old go?’ His latter fights have been jokes. I’m happy for him to take on K. May the best man win in a fair and properly refereed fight. But if it goes the way his recent fights have, it’ll be another in satisfying fight.Posted August 5, 2014 5:41 am
SLIM is a moron. If Calzaghe said “I’m not losing to a ni@@er,” which he never did, he would be getting $hit on to this day. Double standard.Posted August 5, 2014 5:12 am
Kovalev is going to smash Hopkins.Posted August 5, 2014 5:11 am
Well if he does decide to show up…don’t bet the house Tark. Bernard is a crafty veteran even at 49.Posted August 5, 2014 3:58 am
Bill Partrice Jones…, “Hopkins wanted Calzaghe so badly it was crazy, and in my book he still earned a SD win”
What kind of an idiot are you??? You either think Hopkins won or he lost. You don’t give him a split decision — or do you have 3 personalities and each comes up with a different score?
And Hopkins didn’t want it that badly… He looked like he wanted to quit… Calzaghe was a brittle fisted, feather punching, face first brawler … and B-Hop couldn’t stay with him.
Kovalev is going to smash Hopkins.. It will be brutal if Hopkins actually shows up.Posted August 5, 2014 3:00 am
I was surprised when this fight got made. Hopkins is not a fighter to take a fight he knows he will lose so he must see something in kovalev that he sees as very beatable. This fight is all about the early rounds if hop can survive he can wear down and destroy his spirt with his usual tactics but kovalev has more of a punchers chance and hop has never fought anyone with kovalev a power. Going to be an interesting fightPosted August 5, 2014 2:58 am
Wow!Posted August 5, 2014 2:53 am
That’s not racist, so if a white guy says I don’t want my daughter going out with a black guy. He is entitled to say that…everybody so dam sensitive. If Calzaghe had said the same thing so what. The business is settled in the ring, he was selling tickets. That’s all Dan D.Posted August 5, 2014 2:35 am
Slim, it is possible to be racist to white people ya know. Racism is judging by colour, in whatever form it may come. Hopkins used he words “white boy” but what if Calzaghe had said “I’m not losing to no black guy” ? The context would become irrelevant and all focus would be on the use of the word black.Posted August 5, 2014 2:09 am
Bill Patrice johns ,you Calzaghe looked bad against Hopkins but you forget to mention how Hopkins looked? As I said good elite boxer look bad against Hopkins but Hopkins got so many gift decision in his carriere against avarage boxers it’s not even funy , I remember against Eastman he looked awful and got a gift decisionPosted August 5, 2014 2:07 am
Kelly Pavlik agrees with ME TOO.Posted August 5, 2014 2:00 am
“WRONG! Even you Boxtra$$wipe have gone on about how Roy Jones Jr. Has lost his skills over time.”-Nope. Go enroll in some INTERPRETATION courses. I meant in comparison to SKILLS, LUCK doesn’t last. SKILLS DO. Hasim Rahman agrees with ME on that.Posted August 5, 2014 1:58 am
Patrice Jones you say Hop is not a racist what if Calzaghe said I will never let a colored person beat me.Posted August 5, 2014 1:57 am
Hopkins will not defeat Kovalev. His Kryptonite is Volume. Kovalev has that. On Top of that he has uncanny endurance to continuously throw power shots with seemingly little effort. Hopkins will be TOO much on the Defensive to WIN. IF he still had knockout power he could set a GOOD trap and place his knockout shot on that chin. But unless he can find some one punch knockout power he’ll LOSE this one lopsidedly. He simply cannot WIN on points due to not having enough punch output.Posted August 5, 2014 1:48 am
All he ever said was “I will never let a white boy beat me” and Calzaghe won the fight! Enough said. People are so racist they look for reasons to hate Bernard! he’s a HOF fighter broke plenty records…give him his props. Now will he beat Kovalev? That remains to be seen..Posted August 5, 2014 1:11 am
Nope. Hopkins has nothing to LOSE and everything to GAIN. IF he LOSES it all goes to the FACT that he’s 50 on Fight night. IF he WINS then WOW!!! The only way Kovalev can get a WOW is IF he knocks Hopkins out. Hopkins may even get a WOW IF he goes 12 without getting stopped. Every other LHW will get stopped by Kovalev. Hopkins knows he has everything to GAIN and he is not letting anyone talk him out of it. Shaefer tried to get him to retire after the Roy Jones Fight and he went on to WIN the LHW Ring Belt after that. He has Ultimate confidence in himself. He’s similar to ME on that.Posted August 5, 2014 1:10 am
Bill Patrice Jones
I don’t get all the bile and hatred shown to Hopkins by fans here. He’s not racist what he said about Calzaghe was just heat of the moment, and remember Hopkins was middleweight champion for years, unified all the titles and had dozens of title defenses, yet it took him what seems like FOREVER to get any credit or acclaim. When Hopkins said that he was speaking from a generation of African American fighters who had to see hype jobs who were; handsome, charismatic, cherry pickers get more money and acclaim. All the while knowing if you were WHITE ala Gerry Cooney for example, it was a supreme bonus. He saw Calzaghe as a fraud. Saying ‘I wont let a white boy beat me’ doesn’t make you racist. When heated I think I’ve probably made racial remarks before, they mean NOTHING There’s not a racist bone in my body.
As for this fight, don’t be surprised if it gets cancelled or called off, and you can’t criticise Hopkins for it. Bernard, like any millionaire prize fighter, has dozens and dozens and dozens of people in his circle whom depend on him for money. Hopkins is still HBO big time. He banks over 2 million every time out. When you think a Klitschko title opponent settles to all demands because they’re getting their one big 1.5-3million payday, you realise how much money Bernard consistently makes. A loss, and a KO loss especially, would be disastrous for his future earning potential. Is it worth it? What does he have to prove? Many people around Hopkins will try their upmost to talk him down and out of this contest.
Hopkins just lives to fight and prove people wrong, he just loves it every time. He wanted Calzaghe so badly it was crazy, and in my book it still earned a SD win or at the subjective least a draw. HBO were DESPERATE for Joe to win that fight, watch the way the commentators kiss his ass when he beat Manfredo TKO 3. It was all about Calzaghe vs Roy Jones Jr not being cancelled. Calzaghe looked very bad that night, that’s how you know how good Hopkins is. It’s not about what he does himself, it’s about what his opponent simply can’t do. For the first time in his life; child, school boy, amateur, professional, sparring etc Joe Calzaghe literally couldn’t do one of his flurries. He was so frustrated it was crazy. Hopkins is a ring genius, his boxing I.Q is higher than anyones in the game, and he matches that with a dedication and fitness level you simply don’t get from most fighters in their twenties.
I always tune in for Hopkins, even though he’s not crowd pleasing, because it’s so intriguing to watch a man of that age physically go in with a prime 20s tough guy athlete and win.
Hopkins could win this fight, BUT Pascal had him down twice (albeit illegal blows) and at one point in round 1 of his 2 rounds fiasco against Dawson you saw a little look in his eye that said ‘that hurt, I don’t have options to win here.’ If I was Kovalev’s trainer I would say take chances on fouls in rounds 1-5. If you’re in a clinch whack his head however, wherever, whenever you can. He simply has to hurt Hopkins and he will win. No one has really hurt Hopkins in pretty much his whole career.
I don’t want to see Hopkins get knocked out or stopped on the ropes. However I also don’t want to see him go into a shell and hold and box his way to a UD loss. However I also WANT to see this fight. Hopkins fights for legacy, his heart and commitment put modern heavyweights to shame. However I stand by what I said. Don’t be surprised if this is cancelled or called off for injury. Hopkins people want him to stay active in winnable fights, Bernard himself wants to add to his legacy each time out.Posted August 5, 2014 12:45 am
He glossed me!
Hopkins might not walk out on his own two feet.Posted August 5, 2014 12:27 am
Bill Patrice Jones
hopkins is NOT racistPosted August 5, 2014 12:23 am
“LUCK doesn’t last. SKILLS DO.”
WRONG! Even you Boxtra$$wipe have gone on about how Roy Jones Jr. Has lost his skills over time. Skills deteriorate with time other wise you would not be saying Hopkins cannot do what he used to do when he was younger. So even You know that skills don’t last. That’s one of the reasons boxer’s retire–loss of skills.Posted August 4, 2014 11:57 pm
@Swedish boxing fan, I agree with you when you say “don’t count Hopkins out” but then in order to prove your argument you wrote also how ” kovalev has limited experience” , how he got a sd with boon how he got floored how he never went past 8 rounds etc….
B Hop deserves some respect for what he’s done over the years….
youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBREPosted August 4, 2014 11:32 pm
Broner v Maidana
youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509APosted August 4, 2014 11:07 pm
British Boxing Fan
Calzaghe 46-0, beat everyone, no cheating involved, too good, won everytime with no cheating.Posted August 4, 2014 10:26 pm
BoxaDrama says.., “Just heard an interview with Darnell Boone who sent Ward, Stevenson and Kovalev to the canvas, that he believes that Kovalev would destroy both Ward and Stevenson. He stated, having been in the ring with all three, that Kovalev hits harder than Stevenson. He said that he would be Stevenson because he is more precise with his power and actually knows how to box.”
Boone never floored Kovalev.. He lost twice to Kovalev and was KO’d in 2 rounds in their rematch.
He DID floor Ward and KO’d Stevenson.Posted August 4, 2014 10:20 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan usually puts up decent posts. Unfortunately anything to do with Hopkins his reality warps into another space time continuum. I hope SBF makes it back to earth when Krusher destroys the alternate reality in which Hopkins and SBF live in. LOLPosted August 4, 2014 10:17 pm
This fight is going to happenPosted August 4, 2014 10:10 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
Who ever used my name and put up that youtube link – I wonder why?
Dr. Alban, its my life. Okay he is a Swede, that is good, but why!Posted August 4, 2014 9:59 pm
Just heard an interview with Darnell Boone who sent Ward, Stevenson and Kovalev to the canvas, that he believes that Kovalev would destroy both Ward and Stevenson. He stated, having been in the ring with all three, that Kovalev hits harder than Stevenson. He said that he would be Stevenson because he is more precise with his power and actually knows how to box :). Ward could not handle his power…. I think he would know better than any of us…. well, we will have to see what happens after Kovalev gives Hopkins his first KO….. very interesting!!Posted August 4, 2014 9:51 pm
Hopkins v Calzaghe
Hopkins lost on points n the USA, and his cheating tactics, he would of got stopped by Calzaghe but for that, no pun intented, he was going to get stopped so pulled a stunt at the earliest opportunity, feining a low punch , that will do, need a rest or I will get stopped.Posted August 4, 2014 9:32 pm
ESB has many racists and no point in dwelling on them, BHop’s statement that ” he will never loose to a whiteboy ” lost him the fight against Calzhage, Joe never beat up Nard slap him yes but BHop never lost those fights against Joe and Jermain Taylor, his mouth handed him the losses.Posted August 4, 2014 9:23 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
youtube.com/watch?v=Lcy7g05AbC0Posted August 4, 2014 9:22 pm
The fact that this fight is even made is a great achievement in itself for BHop. Much respect to Nard. Big question is what does the ” krusher ” do when he realises that he can’t crush X?Posted August 4, 2014 9:16 pm
C’mon Roy lets not turn this into the typical racial back and fourth crap.Posted August 4, 2014 9:13 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
Bernard Hopkins (55-6-0-2 NC, KO’s 32) is 185cm tall with a reach of 191cm.
Sergey Kovalev (25-0-0 KO’s 23) is 183cm tall with a reach of 184cm.
Hopkins, 49 years old and Kovalev, 31 years old = 18 years of diffrence. Hopkins once again old enough to be the father of his opponent.
Hopkins with 65 PRO fights is highly expearend in the boxing ring and have lots of skills.
Sergey Kovalev is in his physical prime and is at top of his game as a undefeated champion.
To date it is all nice BUT also his “akilles heel” here.
Sergey Kovalev have never went far in a fight and that is with other words an unknown teritory for him and Bernard Hopkins have went 12 round fights for many years.
Hopkins is good and no fool. He is a smart fighter and if he wants to fight 18 year younger Kovalev he must belive he haves a very good chanse to pull off another great upset!
Kovalev was knocked down already in 1st round in his fight with Blake Caparello (PRE 19-0-1 KO’s 6) and Caparello is not a hard hitter of a boxer but fast he is. Also he was a #10 ranked contender by WBO and still he cought Kovalev with a two-series suprise shot!
All I say here is – Don’t count out the Light heavyweight world champion Bernard “The Executioner” Hopkins yet, he have shocked the boxing world many times and I wish he can pull it off again!Posted August 4, 2014 8:58 pm
the pro-Hopkins fools are all “DWF’s.” They do not know any better. They are completely delusional.Posted August 4, 2014 8:57 pm
true d jay but I mean up with the ali’s if Hopkins pulls this off I believe he deserves to bePosted August 4, 2014 8:14 pm
Killing Moon The Soothsayer
Probs to BHOP for taking the chance…But the big problem is that Kovalev doesn’t need to be a better boxer to win the fight…As his previous opponents had to be…Last big puncher BHOP met was Pavlik (in 2008) and that was being fought at 170 …10 pounds above Pavliks ideal weight…I rate Kovalev to be a better boxer (Honestly never rated Pavlik that high) than Pavlik and since this bout is 6 years ago…I think everyone would agree that BHOP hasbecome a more stationary target over time…In the Murat fight he was easiest target available…I honestly can’t see BHOP hustle himself through 12 rounds…So I think KO-win Kovalev…But damn what an achievement if he could…Posted August 4, 2014 7:52 pm
Bernard is already considered one of the best ever…he broke Carlos Monzons record didn’t he?Posted August 4, 2014 7:47 pm
british boxing fan as you can prob tell nigel benn was my idol growing up but also loved staying up late and watching the American fights roy jones at his peak was majestic if Hopkins pulls this off he deserves to be one of the best ever far harder fight than Stevenson that I think he could have won !Posted August 4, 2014 7:41 pm
Nobody wants to Fight Ward. That’s why he’s not Boxing. How many guys want to sign UP for a definite LOSS on their record for LOW money???? Most of these guys are SO confident in Ward’s SKILLS that they don’t even LOOK at the GOOD side which is that they get a shot at the #2 P4P Fighter and SMW CHAMP of the World. A WIN would make them a Superstar. Nope. They do not allow themselves to get caught UP in those PIPE dreams. They decline the Fight and move ON.Posted August 4, 2014 7:36 pm
Kovalev KO his a$$ please.Posted August 4, 2014 7:34 pm
Stevenson is hiding somewhere.Posted August 4, 2014 7:30 pm
great that hop has the balls to do this.Posted August 4, 2014 7:29 pm
Why is Ward not Boxing??Posted August 4, 2014 7:27 pm
Ward doesn’t have the POWER but he can beat Kovalev TOO. He’ll DO it with MUCH Boxing IQ. I’d love to SEE that one. Ward has NEVER LOST the Ring generalship battle. Neither has Kovalev. That’s the REAL SuperFight at 175. Hopefully Kovalev hurries UP and unifies the titles at 175 which will give Ward incentive to move UP and be Ring CHAMP of 2 Divisions at the SAME time like Floyd ISPosted August 4, 2014 7:15 pm
A PRIME Hopkins could execute a game plan to beat Kovalev but at the age his is NOW. No WAY. He might know HOW but he does not have the speed or power to execute what he knows. Its going to take a SUPREME counter puncher with POWER to defeat Kovalev. IF Hopkins still had his power he could DO it….Hopkins only hope right now is to earn the moral victory by stopping Kovalev’s knockout streak.Posted August 4, 2014 7:12 pm
If anyone can figure out a way to beat Kov… it’s HopkinsPosted August 4, 2014 7:06 pm
“If I was Ward and Stevenson I would be ashamed of myself letting a 50 year old be the one to challenge the power punching Kovalev” – Cosign, excluding Ward. Stevson should be ashamed of himself and boxing fans should let him know that. Title holders like him are what’s wrong with boxing and no true fan of the sport should be a fan of his.Posted August 4, 2014 6:50 pm
Pavlik’s feet were SLOWER than Wladimir Klitschko’s which is TERRIBLE for a MW. Anyone with any Boxing IQ should have SEEN that all you had to DO was turn him by giving him angles and his feet would be to SLOW to catch you. Hopkins SAW that and jumped at the chance to SPANK him. Martinez saw that TOO…..but Pavlik is no comparison to Kovalev. Hopkins is in REAL trouble in this one. He has to figure out a way to reduce Kovalev’s punch count. He’s going to have to go DEEP into his bag of tricks…..There will obviously be a lot of clinching, rabbit punching, low blowing, kidney punching, and head butting. Anything to reduce Kovalev’s punch out put.Posted August 4, 2014 6:42 pm
that last guy he beat cant remember his name …. anyway does anyone think Hopkins can seriously win this ?Posted August 4, 2014 6:40 pm
Well lets see, the judges don’t always tell the right story now do they? B-hop has never had his ass handed to him before. Too slick, too crafty, holds good, all that…will he win against Kovalev? i’m not saying that…Posted August 4, 2014 6:37 pm
LUCK doesn’t last. SKILLS DO.Posted August 4, 2014 6:33 pm
“Taylor was favored to beat Pavlik because he beat Hopkins twice”-YES. And he also beat Spinks, Ouma, and drew with Winky Wright all by BLIND mice decisions. He actually should have beaten Pavlik but his Boxing IQ was TOO low. HE had Pavlik on the brink of being KO’d but Steward obviously didn’t teach another one of his Fighters how to throw an uppercut. SO the DUMMY punched himself out vs. a guy who was ready to be knocked out. After that it was like two pitbulls Fighting but one had no TEETH. Pavlik WON the Championship by LUCK and that’s why he lost it vs. SKILLS.Posted August 4, 2014 6:31 pm
9 rounds to 3 vs Hopkins was a bit of a whipping. Especially with the faking a low blow stuff.
He should have received a standing 8 for that.Posted August 4, 2014 6:30 pm
SREDMOND, you need to make your mind up about how good you think Hopkins is.
You can`t talk him up saying he has this and that quality that Kovalev has never seen, elite skills etc
and then at the same time say you need to KO him or you are exposed.
That is talking out both sides of your mouth.
You are just trying to set it up so that you don`t have to give Kovalev any credit.
Hopkins either represents a true and valid test of whether Kovalev is elite or he doesn`t.
If he doesn`t then you must admit that Hopkins age means he is no longer elitePosted August 4, 2014 6:29 pm
Cut the crap TigerPaw 16 Calzaghe didn’t whip B-hops ass, quit sniffing glue. He won on points and out worked him that’s all. B-Hop has never had his ass handed to him…Posted August 4, 2014 6:26 pm
Tark, are you knocking Haye now? When it’s convienent you try and sell him as a proxy for Ali…. TypicalPosted August 4, 2014 6:25 pm
Good post Iman…Posted August 4, 2014 6:24 pm
Get ready to get your ass kicked, B-Hop…by another white man.Posted August 4, 2014 6:23 pm
good call iman like I said earlier full respect to Hopkins a proper throwback not scared of anyone just worry for him in thisPosted August 4, 2014 6:21 pm
If I was Ward and Stevenson I would be ashamed of myself letting a 50 year old be the one to challenge the power punching KovalevPosted August 4, 2014 6:18 pm
“If I’m not mistaken this is going on regular HBO, not PPV, which is equally good news.”
Hopkins is 49 years old. He doesn’t bring enough gas for PPV anymore. Kovalev-Ward, if it happens, will be PPV.Posted August 4, 2014 6:17 pm
Taylor was favored to beat Pavlik because he beat Hopkins twice — and Pavlik never beat a top notch fighter before in his life. Taylor had Emmanuel Steward as well.
But Pavlik was a shoo-in to win. The way he prepared for that fight, Taylor wasn’t getting out of that ring without getting knocked stiff… But some guys just can’t sustain that caliber of perfomance — and they ease up their efforts when they finally hit the big time.. The whole deal is work for them, not fun.. They love to party down, not achieve.
Kovalev has a different attitude. One of achievement – not getting rich and living it up.Posted August 4, 2014 6:10 pm
Great news for the sport. It bucks the current trend of title holders ducking each other and taking risk-free fights nobody wants to see. If I’m not mistaken this is going on regular HBO, not PPV, which is equally good news.Posted August 4, 2014 6:08 pm
Man, I can’t wait for this one.Posted August 4, 2014 6:07 pm
not nuts mate the truth im afraid Hopkins might craft his way around the first few rounds but has not got the power to keep him off then kovalev will knock the lights out typical American promoting really watched to many rocky films!Posted August 4, 2014 6:06 pm
BHop will look good for the 1st 4/5 rounds but then the pace will be too much for his 50 year old body to maintain, from 6 on it will be a one punch and grab/hold. You can win the head game in the pre-fight interviews but you can’t beat father time. Kovalev by MD, that’s if BHop does not quit on his stool late.Posted August 4, 2014 6:03 pm
B-Hop might have too many tricks in his hat for this youngster, should be good no blow out your nuts.Posted August 4, 2014 5:59 pm
its not always I agree with tark but this is a bridge to far I admire Hopkins for his bottle but I watch british boxing a lot and cleverly whatever u guys think of him has a good jaw but he was busted up bad by kovalev could be painful viewingPosted August 4, 2014 5:49 pm
Tough fight for Hopkins. B-Hop gets B-Bopped. Kovalev finds a way to reach his opponents. Hopkins will have to be real crafty and move out of the way from those shots. Head, Body wherever. Can’t see it happenening for Bernard. Hope he doesn’t get hurt.Posted August 4, 2014 5:45 pm
Hmmmmm….Posted August 4, 2014 5:44 pm
Lol TARK! My thoughts exactly!Posted August 4, 2014 5:36 pm
We’ll see if Hopkins actually follows through with the scheduled fight… He can always pull out 2 or 3 times in a row a la David Haye … and claim injury.
He may try to kill the fight when it gets close.Posted August 4, 2014 5:34 pm
Either way this turns out, the biggest loser in this showdown is Adonis Stevenson. The man who ran from one network to avoid Kovalev and secure a fight with Hopkins looks like a total chicken. According to Bhop himself, he took the fight because Stevenson’s people, who should have been easier to work with since they’re on the same network, were indecisive and didn’t seem like they wanted the fight.Posted August 4, 2014 5:29 pm
Now Hopkins is going to get SPANKED here but he’s dead serious about taking the Fight just as I predicted he IS. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!Posted August 4, 2014 5:23 pm
This is what TARK pessimistically SAID……
“I’ll believe that Hopkins will fight Kovalev when I see it happen… I think it’s a ploy and he’s not serious.”Posted August 4, 2014 5:22 pm
TARK ERRONEOUSLY predicted that B Hop would never take the Fight. This is what I SAID…..
“Hopkins will no doubt face Kovalev. He wants to unify the Division. Whether he can actually DO it or not is another story but that is his GOAL. And HE knows that he doesn’t have MUCH time to accomplish it. Why DO you think he wants Kovalev AND Stevenson in his NEXT 2 Fights??? IF he’s going to be able to reach his goal its going to have to be SOONER rather than LATER. He has no choice but to go for the GUSTO. He can’t afford to wait it out and SEE IF someone ELSE beats them that is more beatable for HIM. IF he chances that he might end UP being 60. NO man will ever defeat a World Class Champion at 60 yrs old. I predict that it won’t happen throughout ETERNITY. After I’m gone I’ll still be celebrating in SPIRIT on that one!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!!”Posted August 4, 2014 5:20 pm
No he didn’t win, Calzaghe out worked him…Posted August 4, 2014 4:56 pm
SREDMOND hates all white fighters – we all KNOW it.Posted August 4, 2014 4:55 pm
Not saying he will lose, but if Kovalev does lose what excuses are you gonna give him Tark? lolPosted August 4, 2014 4:50 pm
DAN RAFAEL’S comments on the last fight…..Rafael’s remarks: This was like boxing’s equivalent of a WWE squash match — when the overwhelming favorite (Kovalev in this case) annihilates a hapless, unknown challenger (Caparello) and further enhances his reputation as an unbeatable destroyer.
That is exactly what happened as Kovalev — living up to his “Krusher” nickname — retained his title for the third time as he blitzed the unqualified Caparello, a 27-year-old Australian southpaw with zero résumé or business being in a world title fight (on HBO, no less).Posted August 4, 2014 4:36 pm
How the Sergey “Krusher” Kovalev will beat B-Hop – he will simply Krush him in less then 5 rounds.Posted August 4, 2014 4:31 pm
I’ll say it more simply for those not interested in the novel I wrote earlier.
If Kovalev believes in his own cardio and truly has great conditioning, I think he will beat Hopkins through superior work rate and eventually getting there with power shots.
If Kovalev doubts his own cardio and tries to pace himself, he will lose unless he gets there with a “lucky” punch, which i doubt will happen based on B-Hops past performances.Posted August 4, 2014 4:28 pm
I want to see this fight…it may turn one sided…or not. It will be an interesting fight to bet too.Posted August 4, 2014 4:27 pm
Kovalevs last opponent Agnews last 5 or 6 opponents had a TOTAL of 89 losses between them! So this is the yardstick for Greatness? Kovalev is dispatching his C listers and fellow upstarts in style but make no mistake this guy is just getting going… Maybe he is the man, maybe not but anything less than a dominant performance against this fighter who does NOT have a single black hair in his beard is gonna be an embarrassment…Posted August 4, 2014 4:26 pm
We all know B-Hop cannot fight at a high pace from round to round. He’s able to throw punches and defend aggressively in short spurts, and then rest through his use of the ring, feinting, clinching, and confusing his opponents.
I’ve seen him succeed at doing this with everyone but Chad Dawson (and to a lesser extent Calzaghe).
The biggest thing in Hops’ arsenal that people don’t discuss much are his feints. If you watch his fights, he creates tension in his opponents by his constant feinting, which tires them earlier than they normally would be.
Because they are worried about him lunging in with a punch and then clinching, perhaps worried about his head, etc. It tends to freeze them a little, and Bernard is better at feinting than just about any other fighter I’ve seen him up against.
He has trouble with a volume guy like Joe C because Joe didn’t respect the feints and knew he had the cardio to go strong the whole way, and so he just kept throwing and not worrying about the lunging and grappling spoiler tactics.
So now remember that both Calzaghe and Dawson were very well seasoned pros who had seen it all by the time they came up against Hopkins.
I like Kovalev a lot, but I do wonder how he will respond to the feints, the tricks, the angles, the roughhousing, the ring generalship. Sometimes Kovalev looks a bit stiff to me, and I think B-Hop really takes a part guys with slower footwork and stiffer styles.
Pavlik is a great example. The taller, quick, super athletic guys with high volume give him some trouble, but a stiff fighter like Pavlik was a cakewalk (same with Shumenov).
Hopkins is good enough to nullify or take away a fighter’s best weapon. So the opponent has to have a second and third bullet in the chamber to give Hopkins serious trouble.
Does Kovalev have something besides power? He needs to. Just power will not get it done. Hopkins has a great chin, great defense, and has never been seriously shaken in the ring that I’ve seen.
I think Kovalev can beat Hops, but only if his gas tank is incredible, his mind is strong, and his boxing skills are at a higher level than Hops expects.Posted August 4, 2014 4:23 pm
Tark, is basically trying to sell the idea that the BEST fighter that Hopkins EVER faced in over 20 years of professional boxing is Kovalev whos best win was Nathan Cleverly HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Antonio Tarver, Roy Jones, Felix Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya, Winky Wright, Jean Pascal 2x, Chad Dawson 2x, and Kelly Pavlik ALL sucked because Tark is on a mission to prove that Kovalev who has ONLY had 5 scheduled 12 round fights in his entire career is the apex of HOPS career… If this was a 39 year old Hopkins I would give Kovalev NO Chance with his style… This would be VERY impressive for Nard because he is OLD and time robs all athletes of skill, quickness and stamina if Kovalev lost he would really look like a major hype job at this point… Sorry I cannot think of a SINGLE big time boxer that would lose to a 50 year old when they were in their prime… Mayweather, Cotto, Marquez, and Pacquiao would not be getting upset and embarrassed by a guy who is approaching mandatory retirement age for
Hell of a promoter, Kathy. Respect.Posted August 4, 2014 4:14 pm
B-hop will be KO-ed in less then 5 roundsPosted August 4, 2014 4:09 pm
“””Sredmond was right when he said theres nothing this dude can bring B-Hop hasn’t already seen.”””” well….seeing is not feeling — when Kovalev hit B-Hop then mr. Alien B-Hop will see many stars and galaxies.Posted August 4, 2014 4:00 pm
Great fight with lots of possibilites. If Hopkins wins it adds nicely to his legacy. If Kovalev wins what does it do for his legacy?Posted August 4, 2014 3:47 pm
I’ve never seen Bernard Hopkins beat up EVER! He’s lost a few close fights and been out worked but that’s about it. NO CHANCE he loses in “brutal fashion”…Sredmond was right when he said theres nothing this dude can bring B-Hop hasn’t already seen. So with that being said the winner will be??? lolPosted August 4, 2014 3:26 pm
Respect to Hopkins…most guys his age dont want to get off the couch…but Kovalev could end his career in brutal fashion.And I agree if Kovalev struggles alot with Hopkins at his age…then his status should be tuned down abit,by some…lets see!!!Posted August 4, 2014 3:22 pm
There is NOTHING that Kovalev brings to the table that Hops has NOT seen… This is a guy who was in the ring win or lose with a PRIME Roy Jones Jr a fighter the likes of which Kovalev and the rest of these newbies combined could not hang with… Reality is that Kovalev should be stronger, and younger and if he can overwhelm the older man he can win… If he loses its pretty much a hard commentary on his quality…Posted August 4, 2014 3:17 pm
win or lose I just don’t want to see Hopkins get knocked outPosted August 4, 2014 3:00 pm
much respect to B-Hop for demanding this fight although it scares me. of course I know I can never count Hopkins out but, Kovalev is a serious danger. I would enjoy watching Hopkins pull one more rabbit out the hat but one of those I just don’t want to see him get knocked out.Posted August 4, 2014 2:59 pm
people on here wanting a strict american drug test before November.Posted August 4, 2014 2:50 pm
I think Hopkins will have limited success nullifying Kovalev’s powers. Here’s why I say this.
Everyone, and I do mean everyone, points to the Pavlik fight as evidence that Bhop can take away a great puncher’s power. Well, yes and no.
Kelly Pavlik was an one-dimensional power puncher who needed a lot of room to throw and land those long straight punches. All Hopkins had to do was step inside and refuse to give up even an inch of ground. He essentially smothered Pavlik’s power.
Kovalev is not the same. He generates tremendous power with short straight and rounded punches. Hopkins cannot stop that kind of power simply by coming close.
That said, he will be able to nullify Sergey’s devastating search and destroy power which relies on forward momentum. I believe Bhop with step close and back and never truly run from Kovalev, which is a death sentence, since it gives him the ability to advance with huge lunging shots.
In the end, I think Kovalev will simply outwork him and beat him by being a more active boxer/puncher.Posted August 4, 2014 2:25 pm
Interview was polished in this article. Kovalev has a good punch, but bad sense of humor.Posted August 4, 2014 2:15 pm
Hopking is a much better boxer. He still has enough power to chil out Kovalev. If Hopking stays till late rounds, he wins… like usually.Posted August 4, 2014 2:13 pm
Bhop has always defied the odds and age! But no way he beats the monster Kovalev! Kovalev by career ending late rd tko. Props to bhop on a hof career! Mad respect!Posted August 4, 2014 2:07 pm
WTF!!! Former British fighter Jamie Moore who smashed out Matthew Macklin a few years ago has been shot in the legs in Marbella. He retired a few years ago and is now training Macklin. WTF!!!Posted August 4, 2014 2:04 pm
You shouldn’t be isolating your worries about PEDs to 50 year olds, you should be worried about guys that look extordinarly powerful in their respective devisions. Which is really a shame. no one’s above speculation, at this point. But a 50 year old fighter on his way out is the least of my concern.Posted August 4, 2014 1:59 pm
I would particulary heavily test Hopkins.very heavily.Posted August 4, 2014 1:44 pm
best get the tests in place.bhop has to be on something to be fighting at that age.maybe hes been using sly stallones human growth hormone or similar.but deffo needs testing.Posted August 4, 2014 1:42 pm
@Swedish Boxing Fan… Carl Froch scored Calzaghe/Hopkins for Hopkins did he?! … A great way to validate your statement!Posted August 4, 2014 1:29 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
Bernard Hopkins is a 4-time world boxing champion.
No one can take away what he have achieved. Hopkins have been in the ring with some of the very best.
49 years old and still the world champion (WBA/IBF).
For those who say Joe Calzaghe fight just haven’t watched much boxing. Hopkins won that fight with 115-113.
And those who believe Sergey Kovalev will KO Hopkins in a fight, especially early, they need to wake up because that will not happen, especially in early rounds 1-5. Hopkins may be old and years past his prime BUT he is a ring veteran and knows boxing better then any active fighter.
Bernard Hopkins (55-6-2-2 NC, KO’s 32) have fought in 65 PRO fights since 1989! He have conquered the undisputed world middleweight crown and defended that crown for 11 years with 20 title defences.
Hopkins is not a KO boxer at this stage of his almost 50 years of age but he have won more fights by Knock-out then Kovalev have won PRO fights (25-0-0, KO’s 23).
I love Sergey Kovalev’s ring career so far and he is a tough strong fighter and deserves his credit BUT I don’t like when people “praise” Kovalev and “trash” Hopkins and repeatedly say that Kovalev will “kill” Hopkins or “destroy” Hopkins or “humiliate” Hopkins etc because we all know very well that Bernard Hopkins is not a typical boxer and if Hopkins wants to fight Kovalev, then he feels he can find a spot on Kovalev to be a weakness ready to be exploit for the old warrior fox.
Sergey Kovalev’s best chanse is by KO or TKO from early to middle rounds, or else I feel it will be a UD or MD contest to Bernard Hopkins!
I can see his brain exploding out of his ears.i hope they cancel the fight.dont wanna see an old man beaten close to death.i wont be buying it.Posted August 4, 2014 1:23 pm
that Russian will break him.Posted August 4, 2014 1:21 pm
By rounds 6 BHop will know he is going to get stopped by TKO late and he will hold for dear life. It’s going to be a very dirty fight from round 6 on. Kovalev too strong/young/hungry.Posted August 4, 2014 1:14 pm
looks like a very bad fight for for the old man.he aint gonna be able to speak to his grand children after this.what a shame they couldn’t stop this going through.im really concerned for that guy from America.Posted August 4, 2014 1:14 pm
Hopkins is going to face Kovalev just as I predicted!!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!…..Also TARK has been proven as a LIAR. He SAID that Hopkins would NEVER face Kovalev. That’s why I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet and he ISN’T.Posted August 4, 2014 1:01 pm
yawn……Hopkins is still around putting fans to sleep.Posted August 4, 2014 12:49 pm
Once Hopkins disposes of Krusher he can then make arrangements to take out, Adonis then GGG. Hopkins needs to keep cleaning out present, and future hype jobs before he reaches 60.Posted August 4, 2014 12:49 pm
Hopkins taking this fight will make me re-up my HBO subscription.
Big balls on B-Hops part.
If Kovalev is as good as he looks against C listers then he will handle Hops without much issue.. Kovalev has plenty of tape to watch in order to see what this OLD fighter does and adjust.. He is in his prime and if he cannot win this bout impressively its because he has been EXPOSED… Sorry I stand by this there was NOT a 50 year old fighter around who was gonna school Hops or Roy Jones when they were 32 years old… Kovalev had better bring his A game and no excuses about refs…Posted August 4, 2014 12:46 pm
If popkins is allowed to hold kovalev”s fruit gum for 12 rounds he wins.Posted August 4, 2014 12:40 pm
Kovalev hits so hard that Hopkins will be hit with power punches as he’s never been hit before; that alone will change everything (that Hopkins planned) about this fight. If Hopkins had next to no chance against Dawson, he’s got even less against Kovalev.Posted August 4, 2014 12:26 pm
I want Kovalev to win this! It would be better for boxing.Posted August 4, 2014 12:08 pm
This is Hopkins’ good bye fight. This fight won’t go the distance.Posted August 4, 2014 12:07 pm
Hopkins is going to school this cat on all aspects of the game. I hope Kovalev has plenty of pens and note pads. B hop all the way.Posted August 4, 2014 12:05 pm
I think this could be it for BHop. He’s been pushing his luck, but Kovalev is leagues ahead of Shumenov or Cloud.Posted August 4, 2014 12:05 pm
barnard hopkins simply the best!!!! make sure kovalev gets drug testedPosted August 4, 2014 11:59 am