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Victor “Tyson was 19 years old when he fought a veteran in Tillis. How old was Ali when he was struggling with Doug Jones, getting knocked down by Banks and Cooper?
How about Marciano when he struggled with Ted Lowry?
Floyd Mayweather’s tough fight with Emanuel Burton?
Wlad vs. Purrity?

List goes on and on.”

You just proved my point victor, you said Tyson was 19 years old when he fought tillis and hen you said Bruno was past his prime the second fight then you mentioned Douglas …. One question for you victor , what all these boxers you mentioned here have all in common ? I tell you , hight !
That was my point Tyson struggled with tall boxers who can box and making all those crazy escusses for Tyson for everytime he lost blaming his ” prime” or didn’t train well etc . ..don’t hold any water at all my friend!
Wlad did struggle early in his carriere but he improved Tyson never improved , Tyson lost again against Holyfield but wlad dominated Brewster in his second fight just as he did to peter …. I am talking facts not speculating ” when was their prime or not” .

Posted May 11, 2014 7:33 am 


Pulev will jab and dance to a world shocking win for the BULGARIAN BANGER, by round 10!!!

Posted May 10, 2014 9:22 pm 


That was Vitali Klitschko’s 1st Heavyweight Championship of the 3 world titles he won.. He knocked Herbie Hyde out in 2… Hide almost murdered Michael Bentt.. who knocked Tommy Morrison out in the 1st round.. who won a dubious decision over ancient George Foreman by running for 12 rounds.

Posted May 10, 2014 9:05 pm 


eric says.., “Tark, Tommy Morrison was giving Mercer a boxing lesson the first 3 rounds, mercer didn’t beat Tommy s butt, it was more Tommy was beating Mercer butt, then Tommy got KTFO.” … WTF are you talking about?

Morrison didn’t do anything. He was GETTING a boxing lesson in composure.

Tommy was getting hurt. He was desperate and loading shots like an amateur. He was missing punches by a mile. Mercer actually laughed. He made Morrison look like a rank amateur and got him out early.. Ray had 12 rounds to destroy TM and it took him 4 and change.

If that wasn’t bad enough the worst heavyweight in fistic history, Michael Bentt, knocked Morrison out in the first round.

Michael Bentt’s next fight was against Herbie Hide. He couldn’t hit Hide with a damned thing. In desparation Bentt BIT Hide… Hide ignored the biting and almost killed Bentt.. Literally.. Bentt didn’t belong in a main event ring.

Herbie Hide was later taken out by Vitali Klitschko in 2 rounds.. VK knocked Hide out with a jab.. That fight was so super easy for Klitschko it was ridiculous.

Posted May 10, 2014 8:57 pm 


You do realize “BIG” George was about the same size as Haye right.

Posted May 10, 2014 7:44 pm 

De Lima I.

eric — even jabless SB and TM out-jabbed GF! Hell, WK would jab the crap out of GF! And like Bears said :
“Everything of wlads would work against george beginning with the jab and behind it wlad would end the fight.”

Posted May 10, 2014 7:41 pm 


Matthews: you are 100% right, Vlad will beat Pulev, no doubt about it, he will Knock him out, and then all these so called fans who keep writing Vlad off will come up with every excuse under the sun why Pulev is a bum, he’s not a bum, but, he IS NOT in the same class as Klitschko, so let all the haters keep wishing and dreaming.

Posted May 10, 2014 7:24 pm 


Victor.., You can’t redo Tyson’s career anymore than you can redo Buster Douglas’s… Douglas would have been much better for the Tyson fight if he trained and developed his talent consistently throughout his career. Instead he only got serious when he got a title shot.. Douglas knew he could beat Tyson after watching the Tyson-Tucker fight—which he expected to last a couple rounds. The fight was a revelation on how easy Tyson was to hit, and how non-murderous his punches were against a really big tall dude.

After the Tyson fight Douglas went right back to being a fat, lazy slob. He got 25 million for Holyfield so he wasn’t concerned. I’m pretty sure he could have gotten up from the 3rd round punch from Evander if winning was super important to him. Not getting beaten up was more important because he had money to spend.

Wladimir was easily beating Lamon Brewster for 4 rounds although he felt horrible. Wladimir said many times that he was drugged for the 1st Brewster fight.. He said he was losing his strength, balance, and focus rapidly from the first round and could barely stand up..

He said it wasn’t any punch that got him but he felt like a dish rag until he couldn’t stand at all.. Gamblers won millions on Brewster on money that came in just before the fight.. Wladimir’s bloodwork and samples were mysteriously lost from the hospital.. Wladimir hired one of the most expensive criminal lawyers in the country to try to get a federal investigation going. I believe Wladimir. He had no problems with Brewster in the rematch.

Wladimir is also much better than the flawed fighter who fought Sanders, and didn’t know how to clinch … and had a badly flawed stance and porous defense. He was with Emmanuel Steward for 9 years and is undefeated in over 10 years … For instance, Marciano only fought pro for 8 years total and had a very limited amateur career.

Posted May 10, 2014 5:37 pm 


Actually eric, Sam Peter is amuch better boxer than BG. Peter outboxed one of the most skilled boxers there ever was iss Toney twice. Morrison had a much weaker chin than Wlad and he easily beat BG. BG really had a very low KO percentage in championship fights.

Posted May 10, 2014 4:48 pm 


Well for george to have a fight like sam peter (lets not forget the second fight utter domination) george would have to land some effective rabit punching. wlads just too good at this juncture to be bothered by a brawler. His technique has surpassed lennox lewis’s. Wlad would control the gap/range and pretty much tee off on george. foreman, shavers, lyle, peter are all pretty entertaining brawlers. probably on a top ten list of all time heavyweight brawlers. But supreme boxers they are not, and wlad is heavily favored to not just beat them, dominate them in any hypothetical matchup. thats what I say, and george said it concerning himself. I obviously concur with george. to each his own i guess.

Posted May 10, 2014 4:43 pm 


The only one of the two between foreman and wlad klitschko who never saw an opponent as good as the guy he would be facing in the ring is foreman. Wlad has seen guys comparable to foreman. Foreman has seen nothing remotely close to the style, size, and power combined with the utterly awesome boxing skill. I would go with wlad by stopppage. the more george engages the higher the likelyhood of him getting strait KTFO. I would take bad wlad all day in that hypothetical and give foreman barely a chance to win. If were talking peak vs peak. Everything of wlads would work against george beginning with the jab and behind it wlad would end the fight.

Posted May 10, 2014 4:38 pm 


If you want to do the comparing thing, big George was a much better over all fighter than the clumsy sam peter, the first fight didn’t go so well for Wladmir, but Wladmir still won on points despite the knock downs, that’s why I said klitschko could win on points against BG, but if big george hurt Wladmir, big george would finish Wladmir off unlike thd sam Peters of the world.

Posted May 10, 2014 4:05 pm 


Tommy had a scary left hook

Posted May 10, 2014 3:59 pm 


De lima, yeah look at formen s head getting banged around by Morrison, Morrison maybe had the best left hook in heavyweight history but could not ko Big george.

Posted May 10, 2014 3:58 pm 


I never suggested that Big George vs Ali would resemble BG vs Wladmir, infact it would be an entirely different fight.

Once again i said, do you think Wladmir could stand up to the bombshells BG would land on Wladmir chin ?

He could not, and klitschko has a lot more trouble with guys that have size and power, that can actually fight.

I will say that if Wladmir could find a way to get to the final bell he would win on the score cards, Wladmir is a better talent than formen but I still remain confident in my opinion that BG would ko Wladmir.

Posted May 10, 2014 3:56 pm 

De Lima I.

GF could never handle the jab of WK!! Watch GF vs Morrison, Briggs, Young.

Posted May 10, 2014 3:35 pm 


bears.are you tarks uncle by any chance.

Posted May 10, 2014 3:26 pm 


wlado has never faced a great puncher.

Posted May 10, 2014 3:17 pm 


“do you really think wlad could take the punishment clay took before george gassed”

NEITHER klitschko gets stationary and lets someone steal on them son!! Thats a boxing blunder and its miraculous that it even worked against foreman. Both klitschKOs would have DESTROYED clay under a shell they would destroy ANYONE under a shell. They never shell up. Offense is essentially their defense and their plus minus ratio shows that quite well. Foreman would struggle to ever find a target like every other klitschKO opponent including David Haye. Lennox struggled to land on vitaly compared to how he landed on everyone else. Simply, a fight between a klitschKO and foreman would look nothing like clay vs foreman

Posted May 10, 2014 3:13 pm 

De Lima I.

GF could never handle the jab of WK!! Watch GF vs Morrison, Briggs, Young.

Posted May 10, 2014 3:12 pm 


There is no indication George would not be slayed by wlads arsenal. His JAB, LEFT HOOK, AND STRAIT RIGHT. In fact little feather fisted cassius clay smoked foreman with a 1,2 and wlads is WORLDS BETTER where clay’s is powered by a 4-cylinder wlads is nuclear powered.

Shavers repeatedly dumped foreman. who else was it jimmy young that beat foreman? There is not ANY version of george foreman i see beating wlad. I would even favor holmes over george personally. George is probably the number heavyweight brawler of all time. But against peak wlad thats irrelevant. There is not any brawler in heavyweight history i give much of a chance against this peak wlad. Not really many boxers either. Wlads one of the best of all time and the only guys who stand much of a chance are his fellow contemporaries in his brother vitlay and lennox lewis. fellow super heavyweight great champions.

Foreman is so wide open its ridiculous. Foreman would be eating BOMBS from a mile out in wlads range land. be getting NAILED by wlads jab probably about as bad as LEAPAI. Wlads striking and footwork his “boxing” is worlds better than the unrefined brawler that was george foreman. I like George but BOTH george and I know who is better and who would win.

Posted May 10, 2014 3:10 pm 


Do you really think Wladmir could take the punishment like was put on Ali ? Before he gassed out.

Sure Wladmir don’t rope and dope but I see BGeorge comming forward with big bombshells and a great chin to absorb what little klitschko throws, which is nothing, no inside game to get George off of him.

I know you no boxing and I know nothing about boxing at all, but that’s how I see it going.

I think your wrong.

Posted May 10, 2014 2:57 pm 


Bears, here is the difference sence your the only one that knows boxing.

Both big men, both have ko power.

” THE CHIN” is the deciding factor, George has the better chin.

I’m not saying its a complete shutout, Wladmir may survive and out point Big George, and if it went to the cards forsure I may change my mind but i’m confident George would ko Wladmir.

Vitili is a different story.

There’s no way to prove that but that’s how i’d see it going and I would place my bet on George.

You say Wladmir would win, is just an opinion, like mine, nothing more.

Posted May 10, 2014 2:48 pm 


wladimir’s right hand comes down on you like a thunderbolt and just takes you TF OUT” – TARK

phukn A right it does TARK!! great postin by TARK and LIONKING I am enjoying. Peak Wlad is unreal good. I’m trying to think of heavyweights we can compare to in terms of progression to the point of peaking out. I’m trying to think of any other boxer. I find myself comparing canelo’s progression. Both guys started out pretty young. Floyds progression seems more subtle where as wladimir has improved LEAPS AND BOUNDS in so many phases of the game.

Posted May 10, 2014 2:40 pm 


Tark, Tommy Morrison was giving Mercer a boxing lesson the first 3 rounds, mercer didn’t beat Tommy s butt, it was more Tommy was beating Mercer butt, then Tommy got KTFO.

Tommy was being held up by the ropes and still getting pummeled.

Mercer s iron chin and Morrison s inexperience won Mercer the fight.

I recall Mercer in a interview saying he heard tommy breathing hard in his ear late 3rd round or the 4th and went after him.

Tommy had a chin problem no doubt but if you watch that fight, Morrison could really box comparing him to today’s heavyweights, even back then aswell.

Tommy could not get inside on Lewis much like what Wladmir these days.

Not saying Morrison was great, but he was a talented boxer and very entertaining.

Mercer only look good in that fight in punching a knocked out fighter hanging on the ropes.

Posted May 10, 2014 2:39 pm 


Thats funny since George Foreman said the klitschkos are greater than he ever was and would probably beat him. Its
funny you think George would beat them and even he does not. LOL. I would not think many people would favor George. At least not anyone that knows boxing

Posted May 10, 2014 2:32 pm 


Wladmir would beat larry curly and moe and Holmes in the same night, klitschko brothers are highly underrated.

Big George, a prime BG would beat Wladmir, the new or old Wladmir.

Posted May 10, 2014 2:28 pm 


Dаmn Pulеv, look likе Вonаvеnа аnd chаgаеv in thе fаcе

Posted May 10, 2014 2:03 pm 




My point about Tyson is that it all depends what fighters he faced , it wasn’t about his ” prime” at all it was about who he faced… Example he struggled against James till is who was tall then what about frank Bruno , he beat Bruno easier after Douglas loss then when he faced him right after spinks fight, Tyson was even hurt in his first fight with a slow big fighter like Bruno .
Tyson was very exiting but he would always get beaten with guys like Lewis klitchkos ,Bowe , Holyfield
Posted May 9, 2014 8:34 pm

Tyson was 19 years old when he fought a veteran in Tillis. How old was Ali when he was struggling with Doug Jones, getting knocked down by Banks and Cooper?
How about Marciano when he struggled with Ted Lowry?
Floyd Mayweather’s tough fight with Emanuel Burton?
Wlad vs. Purrity?

List goes on and on.

Going the distance was the best thing for Tyson with Tillis. Rooney considered that a proud moment for him to see Tyson go the distance and win because Tyson was struggling with his confidence with not knowing if he could adapt from amateur to pro distance. He took his foot of the gas. It’s one thing to do 10+ rounds in the gym, your relaxed, by under the lights, its a different story.
It was also seen as too soon for Tyson to take on Tillis actually and their was an admittance of it.

If you go to his next fight, he went the distance again, against 6’5 Mitch Green, however, this time, he didn’t struggle with his confidence and fought hard for all the rounds. Even showing enjoyment in doing so.

Post Dougals: Tyson was not in great shape mentally, physically, or technically going into the Douglas fight. He was ill prepared. Preparation is key. And this wasn’t an after thing either. There were many things said and written leading up to the fight that Tyson wasn’t prepared.
Being overweight just 6 weeks out. Getting beat up in sparring before he even arrived in Japan. People remember him getting knocked down by Greg Page, but he was getting out-worked and out-boxed by all his sparring partners including, Trevor Berbick.

After Douglas, they went and hired Larry Holmes old trainer who made Tyson was at least in physical shape. Mentally, he was tough enough to duke it out with Ruddock, even add in a great straight-right hand to his arsenal, however, he still looked timid at times, still wasn’t moving his head enough or in proper rhythm___something HOlyfield would later say___and he just wasn’t doing anything in the Old Style and Smooth Motion he was trained in. He was now a stand-up brawler willing to take one to give one.

Tyson vs. Bruno II: Yes, this was Tyson post-prison, but Bruno wasn’t prime anymore either. He had a history with Tyson and mentally, was always going to self-sabotage himself against him.

The Key To Holyfield was Body Shots. Something Tyson was great at back then. He would also have been able to utilize his Jab much more on a 6’2 guy than a 6’5 guy which he still was able to do with the likes of Green, Tillis, and Tucker.
Now would does that mean he would still beat him? I don’t know. They never met at their best. But Tyson felt he could have and Holyfield did admit that version of Tyson, with Rooney, was very hard to beat and deadly. And that after, he wasn’t as dangerous or hard to hit.

Wlad has trouble with Pressure. You have to get inside of Wlad and bang away at that mid-section. That’s what Brewster was able to do on occassion. He also nailed him with a big left-hook that stunned Wlad and took him out of his game completely. Tyson, unlike Brewster, could land his jab on Taller Men, use combinations, get tall fighter to dip low when he banged to their body, and so on. Tyson has a solid shot against Wlad. Would he win for certain? I don’t know.

It can go on and on in positives and negatives to each fight.

Tyson may win, he may lose. I can do both.

Posted May 10, 2014 12:00 pm 


Go away Boxtradamus fraud you are misrepresenting my prophetising! I am the real BOXTRA!!! Note my 3 explanation marks!!! It’s my sign!!! It’s mine!!! Not yours fraud!!!

Posted May 10, 2014 11:32 am 


That dude BELOW is NOT me, he’s a fraud. Fraud, stop killing my rep. Klitschko by UKRAINIAN KAY OH in early rounds!!!

Posted May 10, 2014 11:29 am 

De Lima I.

What pills have they got you on Boxtradamus?

Posted May 10, 2014 11:26 am 


Holmes a bum he was sitting on a cold throne. Pulev by MIDROUND MAGICAL ko of the UKRAINIAN CARCASS. I am NÚMERO UNO of boxing pundits. Hail me!!

Posted May 10, 2014 11:15 am 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Prime Holmes was only 6’3″ 212-220lbs. Although I rank him as a Top 5 ATG HW, he was small compared to the modern Super HWs, and didn’t have enough power to beat a prime Wlad. Holmes was a highly-skilled boxer with a great jab, but was NOT a big puncher. He only had a 58% KO ratio.

King Wlad is a 6’7″ 245lbs freak of nature. Athletic, smart, fast, highly-skilled and extremely powerful. Holmes might have been able to beat him in the pre-Steward era, but not after WK became a defensive master. He would bust-up Holmes with his power jab and bomb him with his crushing straight right and left hook. WK would definitely take some shots, but nothing hard enough to stop him. WK wins by UD or late stoppage.

Posted May 10, 2014 10:26 am 


no way wlado beats a prime larry.

Posted May 10, 2014 7:45 am 


I agree… The Wladimir of today beats Holmes… The reason I knew green Tim Witherspoon was going to give Holmes a tough fight was that great right hand of his.

Holmes tore his left biceps real bad in the Norton fight.. He could never retract the jab in the same way after that fight.. Snipes and Shavers nailed Holmes with big overhand rights.. Before he tore the biceps Shavers couldn’t hit Holmes in the ass.. Witherspoon only had 15 fights, but I knew he’d find Holmes with that good right of his.. That was the toughest fight for Holmes to that point in his career. Tyson got Holmes with the right too. Mike was lightning fast and 21 years old.

Wladimir’s right hand comes down on you like a thunderbolt and just takes you TF OUT.

Posted May 10, 2014 4:07 am 


Unlike the other poster posting under the title Yo, I believe Wladimir would give Holmes all he could handle and more.

Holmes might have ko’ed pre-Steward Wlad, but he gets outboxed by today’sWlad.

Wlad is much better than Carl Williams- who made Holmes look crude as a caveman the first half of the fight…

Posted May 10, 2014 2:19 am 


Holmes was a great big haveyweight I rank him at top 5 best haveyweights of all time

Posted May 10, 2014 12:38 am 


Holmes beat some good fighters, but I don’t think his comp is any better than Wlad’s they are both great fighters. My comment was in respect to Yo saying Wlad beat no one. Wlad actually fought fighters with a considerably higher winning percentage than Holmes or most the other champions over time.

Posted May 9, 2014 11:09 pm 

De Lima I.

MT would get dominated by VK.

I like MT but he was a lousy defender. And BD wasn’t that good. He couldn’t defend that well and couldn’t take a punch either.

Posted May 9, 2014 9:45 pm 


Let’s see Yo, Wlad has beaten 7 world champions. Yep he sure hasn’t beat anybody to speak of, and who was it Holmes beat?? That is just a dumb statement.

Posted May 9, 2014 9:33 pm 


Tyson was too fast for big crude punchers like Bruno, Ruddock, James Smith, and Alex Stewart… Those big slow swingers couldn’t find him…

Tyson was too tough and powerful for boxers like Michael Spinks, aging Larry Holmes, Truth Williams, Bruce Seldon, Tony Tubbs, Tyrell Biggs, and Pinklon Thomas.. He ran them over with speed and power.

Guys who had the whole package: size, speed, skill, height, and punching power weren’t intimidated by Tyson at all. Douglas and Lewis were not only fast and skillful. They were too big and tall for Tyson.

Holyfield was a closer fight. He was smaller.. but Evander built himself up to 218 with weight training. He was a very strong, tough guy when he fought Tyson.

Tyson did well with Holyfield at first… but Holy could take a good shot. He was 3 inches taller than Tyson and was able to outbox him. When Tyson got finally inside he couldn’t bully and dominate Holyfield. The top of Holyfield’s head was tough to deal with. He was almost as strong as Tyson inside and stayed with him.

Holy was a solid infighter.. You could see the expression on Tyson’s face change around the 9th round.. He knew he was close to the end.

Posted May 9, 2014 9:29 pm 

Iron Mike

Top contenders finally squaring off in the Heavies!! I like it. Who is Fury facing next ?

Posted May 9, 2014 8:54 pm 


Let’s be honest, Vitali and Wladimir Klitchko simply have not beaten anyone worth anything at all. I’d put money on a prime Larry Holmes to make them look like amateurs.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:52 pm 

Iron Mike

Good scrap! Can’t wait til he faces the Stiverne/wilder winner next year — assuming Stiverne gets by Arreola first, which he should

Posted May 9, 2014 8:49 pm 


It is hard to write a sentence on this site.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:43 pm 



My point about Tyson is that it all depends what fighters he faced , it wasn’t about his ” prime” at all it was about who he faced… Example he struggled against James till is who was tall then what about frank Bruno , he beat Bruno easier after Douglas loss then when he faced him right after spinks fight, Tyson was even hurt in his first fight with a slow big fighter like Bruno .
Tyson was very exiting but he would always get beaten with guys like Lewis klitchkos ,Bowe , Holyfield

Posted May 9, 2014 8:34 pm 


Again Victor as I stated Mercer was not in his prime when he fought Wlad, nor was he as good as against Lewis. All I am saying is he was far from gone and had never been stopped before Wlad. He went on to win his next 4 fights before getting KO’d by Briggs 4 years later.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:31 pm 


I’m not saying Wlad couldn’t beat Mercer at his best, all I am saying is that Mercer just wasn’t at his best by then. At his best, he would have been a tougher fight. Although, I guess it depends on how in shape he is. He had his ups and downs. He can be out-boxed and made to look bad too on some nights. So it depends.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:23 pm 



Victor Mercer was far from gone when he fought Wlad, he hadn’t lost since his close to decision loss to Lennox, so how could he have been gone? Past his prime perhaps, but in no way gone, in fact he had 6 KO’s in a row before facing Wlad.
Posted May 9, 2014 8:10 p

Watch his fights years back and compare. You can still win fights past your best if you pick the right fights or get fighters at the right time.

Mercer that Fought Lewis was better than the version that fought Wlad. I think Mercer was like 40 or so in that fight. How many fighters are still prime at that age, specifically fighters of Mercer’s style?

Name me a Top Tier Fighter that was Prime and dangerous that Mercer fought leading up to Wlad that tested where he was at at that point?

Posted May 9, 2014 8:21 pm 


Klitschko brothers are boring.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:16 pm 


Wlad can’t in-fight, but he is much faster and hits harder than Lewis, so it is more than just box. He is a puncher/boxer.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:12 pm 


> edit with this bum. Vlad.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:11 pm 


Victor Mercer was far from gone when he fought Wlad, he hadn’t lost since his close to decision loss to Lennox, so how could he have been gone? Past his prime perhaps, but in no way gone, in fact he had 6 KO’s in a row before facing Wlad.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:10 pm 



In the 90′s Wlad Klitcko would be top dog . His style right now is very similar to Lennox Lewis and Lennox did pretty good in the 90′s . And I think Klitchko brothers and Lewis would do good in any era .
Posted May 9, 2014 5:28 pm

Lennox could box and fight. Wlad just can box. Lewis proved his worth as a duke it out fighter against more than one opponent. Wlad doesn’t do so well with that style and doesn’t like to be heavily pressured. But that’s also why it was good for him to know who he is and what he is not and perfect what he is best at___Boxing.

Vitali is a beast. Not the pure boxer of his brother, doesn’t have the speed and power of his brother, but the Man is Big, Strong, Good Power, Good Stamina, Good Chin, deceptive skills, and of course, Determined.

Either way, all the above are Great Champions.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:01 pm 



And I I even forgot to mention that klitchko beat Schultz too in the 90′s
Including mercer in 2002
Posted May 9, 2014 7:56 pm

Mercer was gone by 2002. Just a name at that point. Wlad fought in the 90’s but he wasn’t really a 90’s fighters as he didn’t get to fight against those fighters at their best. Not the big names anyway. His era is the 00’s.

Posted May 9, 2014 7:58 pm 


And I I even forgot to mention that klitchko beat Schultz too in the 90’s
Including mercer in 2002

Posted May 9, 2014 7:56 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Nice. Unlike cherry pickers like Floyd who will ignore his mandatory challenger Pacquiao, we all know Wlad will fight Pulev since he ducks nobody and values being the unified heavyweight champion.

Posted May 9, 2014 7:55 pm 


Wladimir had 32 fights in the 90’s.

Posted May 9, 2014 7:50 pm 


And as for Tyson … Don’t get me started , to some he was only in his ” prime” when he won fights lol…. When he lost to Douglas he wasn’t in his prime , when he came back from prison he ko bums he same way he did before but as soon as he fought Holyfield and lost they say “he wasn’t in his prime ” and ignoring the fact that Holyfield is older then Tyson and a fmr.cruiserweight …

Posted May 9, 2014 7:48 pm 


Lol yeah top 10 heavyweight title challengers if the 90’s like axel Schultz , frank Bruno , herbie hide would beat klitchko … Lmao!!!

Axel Schultz came back and got beat by minto lol herbie hide was already beaten by klitchko in 2 rounds in the -90′ era-folks !!! Wake up please

Posted May 9, 2014 7:42 pm 


Prime Tyson and Lewis would’ve swept the floor with this bums.

Posted May 9, 2014 7:39 pm 


If you knew a damn thing about boxing you would change what your saying.

Posted May 9, 2014 7:36 pm 


Scott you’re an idiot… Tyson refused to fight either Klitschko Bro saying they were too big and strong for him.. Mike was right.. Tyson got knocked out by Danny Williams and Kevin McBride — who couldn’t even compete with the Klitschkos

Vitali Klitschko very easily KO’d Danny Williams… Wladimir Klitschko victim Mariusz Wach knocked Kevin McBride into a coma with one smashing shot… Tyson couldn’t hurt McBride with his best punch.

Posted May 9, 2014 7:21 pm 


Another thing regarding Michael Grant… Dominick Guinn easily outboxed Grant and knocked him out. Guinn was a good boxer, but was never able to compete in the Klitschko era. Even Sergei Liakhovich beat him up.

Grant, Tua, and Guinn were never able to get title shots in the Klitschko era.. Byrd, who beat Tua and Holyfield got 3 title shots.. Briggs got more 2 more title shots after beefing himself up to 280… God knows how.

Posted May 9, 2014 7:15 pm 


Sorry but it’s an awfully poor era for Heavyweight boxing. Tyson, Lewis, Douglas are a million times better then Vladimir and Vitali.
Vladimir would not have had a chance vs any of these guys…and there were a lot more. Tyson in his prime would easily beat them.

Posted May 9, 2014 7:11 pm 


…. “90′s Champion Bruce Seldon would trouble Wlad for sure. Michael grant could have been the best if only he was in his prime when fighting.”

Bruce Seldon was run over by super slow Oliver McCall.. His chin was worse than Ray Austin’s.

A 38-year-old Michael Grant was out-boxed by Tomasz Adamek.. A 40-year-old Vitali Klitschko won every minute of every round from Adamek before stopping him.

So those are a couple of really ignorant statements.

Posted May 9, 2014 6:45 pm 


Don’t know pulev much but the one time I saw him I wasn’t impressed klischko by ko by the 7th round

Posted May 9, 2014 6:41 pm 


Holmes, Lewis, and very few other heavyweights of any era would be able to compete with Wladimir Klitschko at his present level.

Klitschko, Pulev, Fury, Jenning, Wilder, and Haye would be a top threats in any era… Guys who would definitely be heard from in any era include: Povetkin, Glazkov, Takam, Ruiz, Perez, Chisora, Cunningham, and Adamek.

You definitely wouldn’t see guys like Jean Pierre Coopman, Richard Dunn, Chuck Wepner, Alfredo Evangelista, Don Cockell, Tom McNeely, Brian London, Red Burman, David Bey, Michael Bentt, Terry Daniels, Dave Zygleweitz, or Tim Tomashek getting title shots today.

Anybody who calls Alex Leapai a bum forgets that he’s 6’1″ X 248 and beat the trash out of Denis Boytsov, 33-0.

Posted May 9, 2014 6:38 pm 


90’s Champion Bruce Seldon would trouble Wlad for sure.
Michael grant could have been the best if only he was in his prime when fighting. ;-)

Posted May 9, 2014 6:29 pm 


In the 90’s Wlad Klitcko would be top dog . His style right now is very similar to Lennox Lewis and Lennox did pretty good in the 90’s . And I think Klitchko brothers and Lewis would do good in any era .

Posted May 9, 2014 5:28 pm 



This is a VERY weak heavyweight era. Klitschko wouldn’t last in the heavyweight division of the 90′s.
Posted May 9, 2014 4:33 pm

90’s may have been the most talented era the HW division has seen. People may not like to hear it but some of those top contenders of that era may beat on some of the Champions of the past and break up the nostalgia that time has allowed.
There really hasn’t been many eras to really talk about as that good. 90’s, 60’s/70’s, maybe about it. 80’s actually weren’t that bad talent wise; they just lacked discipline to develop and remain skilled.

Posted May 9, 2014 4:38 pm 



Largo.., Commentators like Max Kellerman like to flap their yaps.. Kellerman never fought or trained anyone but pretends he’s an expert.. Teddy Atlas had 3 or 4 amateur fights, and never beat anybody, but is a non-stop yapper about Wladimir Klitschko and his place in history.. Al Bernstein knows fk all about boxing but pretends to be an expert.. Steve Farhood? Jim Lampley? Talk about clueless talking heads.

Boxing is a game. A boxer’s job is to win. He knows some fans will love him, some will hate him, and some could GAF less. Nobody is going to please everybody—that’s impossible—that’s part of being a public figure who other people read, hear, and talk about. The only thing a boxer can do is try to get bigger, stronger, faster, and better at everything he does.

What a fan can do is have an opinion. With that and $10 he can go to Starbucks.

Every boxer clinches. Povetkin was knocked down 4 times and thrown down twice. Something was happening between clinches. WK was winning an ugly fight. There’s a wise saying, “Win this fight. Look good in the next one.”
Posted May 9, 2014 4:13 pm

Yeah, Max, is an avid reader of boxing history, watched many fights, and all of a sudden awakens as an “expert.” The worst part is that fans like to quote these guys including writers as if they know what they are talking about. Sorry, but I’ll listen to those that have proven their worth in the PRO ring and have achieved the Elite Class level.

Teddy is full of it as well. He goes overboard with his insults and seems to think himself above many fighters. He questions their skills, their heart, their character, and yet, what has he done in comparison to highly skilled fighters and world champions?
When have you been tested in the ring like that?
Fighting as a Pro on the elite level is not easy. Winning a World Title is not easy. It takes heart, character, work ethic, belief, guts, and skills. If it was easy, Max and You {Teddy} would have been Pro fighters and Champions. Of course, neither were.

Free to critique the fighters, absolutely, especially when comparing one fighter to another, but going overboard in insulting ways as he does is uncalled for.

“Win this fight. Look good in the next one.” GEORGE BENTON

Posted May 9, 2014 4:34 pm 


This is a VERY weak heavyweight era. Klitschko wouldn’t last in the heavyweight division of the 90’s.

Posted May 9, 2014 4:33 pm 


Largo.., Commentators like Max Kellerman like to flap their yaps.. Kellerman never fought or trained anyone but pretends he’s an expert.. Teddy Atlas had 3 or 4 amateur fights, and never beat anybody, but is a non-stop yapper about Wladimir Klitschko and his place in history.. Al Bernstein knows fk all about boxing but pretends to be an expert.. Steve Farhood? Jim Lampley? Talk about clueless talking heads.

Boxing is a game. A boxer’s job is to win. He knows some fans will love him, some will hate him, and some could GAF less. Nobody is going to please everybody—that’s impossible—that’s part of being a public figure who other people read, hear, and talk about. The only thing a boxer can do is try to get bigger, stronger, faster, and better at everything he does.

What a fan can do is have an opinion. With that and $10 he can go to Starbucks.

Every boxer clinches. Povetkin was knocked down 4 times and thrown down twice. Something was happening between clinches. WK was winning an ugly fight. There’s a wise saying, “Win this fight. Look good in the next one.”

Posted May 9, 2014 4:13 pm 


keep the hw circus rolling.

Posted May 9, 2014 3:41 pm 


TARK, I’m just being a tad obnoxious & I have to confess that WK looks great when he let his hands go & moves without the holding…but I can still feel the stench of the Povetkin fight, that’s all.

Posted May 9, 2014 2:54 pm 

matty jacobs

Pulev is like Sanders … a nightmare for klitchko

Posted May 9, 2014 2:14 pm 


There’s always somebody to beat anybody. Often that matchup never happens because the best fighters have a keen awareness of their own weaknesses—or their trainer does.

I remember when Tim Witherspoon had 15 fights and was matched with Larry Holmes. Everybody was saying, “Man, Larry’s going to kill this green kid.” I was laughed at for saying Spoon would give Holmes his toughest fight. Tim had no experience, but he had a terrific overhand right, a punch Holmes had trouble with. He set it up with a short punishing jab. That was the best fight Witherspoon ever fought. He got lazy as a bum after that.

I remember saying Amos Johnson was going to beat Ali. I said, “Amos can’t beat anybody else, but he’ll beat Ali.” He was supposed to get the title shot at Ali because he beat Cooper. Cooper got the title shot instead. I saw the Pan Am trials where Johnson was murdering Ali—then Cassius Clay—with that nifty short left hook he had.

Sometimes you have the perfect arsenal or the right punch for the right guy. The speed, angle, route, and trajectory of the punch sneak right threw his defense.

Posted May 9, 2014 1:42 pm 


boxrec say the fight is on september 6.

Posted May 9, 2014 12:50 pm 


pulev is not a big puncher and wlad is too good

Posted May 9, 2014 11:12 am 


Finaly the fight happens, one of the best HW at the moment (beside Wlad) is fighting Wlad. The Problem is, the Pulev is not the fighter who will beat Wlad. Wlad is bigger, is at least as fast, has most likely better technical skills and has more power. So everything than a win for Wlad would be a big surprise. The fighter who beats Wlad must be a hard hitting puncher with a good reach, who can put pressure on Wlad. The problem is, that either they are to small so that Wlad clinches them up, or if they are bigger, then they are also to slow. That’s the main strength of Wlad, his size combined with his athletic/speed; this makes him such a good fighter. . . So sorry Kubrat, this will be a nice try, but I’m not seeing you KO Wlad (with a KO rate of 55%), and I’m also not seeing you winning against him on the cards.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:54 am 

Henry miller

Two European gentle men facing off. It’s great. I hope pulev can break thru the k defence and make it a big battle.

Posted May 9, 2014 8:13 am 


Pulev won’t charge head low, so there won’t be much clinching. He will try to stabilize his jab, by far his best punch, but just then he will realize that Wlad REALLY jabs much faster, better and harder. By round 3-4 He will go into survival mode, trying to catch a break and adapt/think on something, and Wlad will drag him around another 3-4 rounds almost on jabs alone. Around 7-8, Wlad will starting unleashing rights and pulev face will be swollen by round 10. From then on, he can hang for his life and take 2 more rounds like a man (I say 70% chance), quit on the stool (20%), or (10%) attempt a hail mary and get streched.

Posted May 9, 2014 6:59 am 


Largo if you dont like Wlad stay away. And stop making those unintelligent comments.

Posted May 9, 2014 6:38 am 


Largo.., I think you’re talking about the Wladimir of 12 years ago. Wladimir stopped Jameel McCline and won every round, but something very odd struck me about that fight. McCline landed a good right hand and Wladimir lost his composure and retreated in a very unprofessional way for a couple seconds. I thought, “WHOOOA!! What Is This? Why didn’t he clinch?”

McCline tried to follow up but was met with hard shots and went back on the defensive. Wladimir was 41-1 at that point.

For Wladimir’s next fight Lennox Lewis made several phone calls to his opponent Corrie Sanders. Lennox told him that Wladimir is “scared” and would fold up if Corrie attacked him savagely like a ravenous tiger.

The strategy worked but I think Wladimir is very comfortable with guys flinging bombs at him now. He overused clinching versus Povetkin, but barely clinched at all versus Leapai. Boytsov clinched continuously against Leapai, the worst I’ve ever seen in my life.

I don’t think you’ll see a lot of clinching in Klitschko-Pulev. It’ll be a lot like Klitschko-Wach. It will go 12. I think Pulev wins 2 rounds instead of one.

Posted May 9, 2014 4:32 am 


Vlad will knock Pulev out!!!!!!!

Posted May 9, 2014 2:57 am 

Mick the Marmalizer

At last a creditable challenger with a 50% chance of victory!

Posted May 9, 2014 2:35 am 


hold, hold, jab…terrified, cover, hold,hold…jab, right, hold…hold, hold, hold, hold, hold,,,,,,,…

Posted May 9, 2014 2:32 am 


yes, wlad-pulev 2014!

Posted May 9, 2014 12:50 am 


jab, jab, jab, hold…frightened, jab, jab, right, hold…scared, move, move, jab, jab, right, hold…afraid, move, jab, move, jab…cover/hold/panicking/hold/hold…jab, jab, right, hold/hold…repeat.

Posted May 9, 2014 12:45 am 


Pulev deserves his chance. A tough couple of years coming up for the champ. Think he will get past Pulev but it will be tougher than his normal walk in the park defences

Posted May 9, 2014 12:11 am 


Wake me up when Wlad will destroy this guy cuz he is GOAT. And people will say HW division is dead… :/

Posted May 9, 2014 12:10 am 


Pulev is no banger but his 55% KO ratio is misleadingly low. He started fighting decent competition almost immediately — by decent I mean, not guys who are debuting or get KOed all the time. And he has stopped 4 of his last 6 opponents, some big names too. If he had Wilder’s opponents he would be up around 85%. But it’s true, he wears opponents down more than destroys them…like in the Dimitrenko fight, that was not a knockout punch, it was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Posted May 8, 2014 11:30 pm 


Wlad vs. Pulev will look a lot like Wlad vs. Chagaev. Pulev is taller than Ruslan so it won’t be quite as bad, but I don’t see him doing enough to make the fight interesting. And if they let Wlad lean like he did vs. Povetkin, another awkward snorefest.

Posted May 8, 2014 11:14 pm 


Pulev lacks experience and overall skills, but I like him. He knows he’s one tough mofo and Wladimir is not really bad ass. And Pulev is about as bad ass as they come.

Wladimir has always said, “Vitali has always had a big advantage over me. He’s a natural fighter. He was supposed to be a boxer since before the dawn of time.

Not me. I’m a natural athlete but not an instinctive boxer. Like a natural pole vaulter. He grabs a pole and vaults over the bar like he was born to do it. Another good athlete has to work for many, many, many years to approach those world records. But the more painstaking it is, the more wonderful the feeling that you’re finally getting it. That’s the way I feel now.”

Posted May 8, 2014 11:02 pm 


Mac, Pulev did stop Ustinov, but Ustinov is an awful boxer and extremely slow, Ustinov wins his fights because of his size alone, when Ustinov comes up against a reasonably sized heavyweight with decent skills in Pulev, he barely lands a punch on his opponent all fight.

Posted May 8, 2014 11:01 pm 


Dimitrenko got steamrolled by chambers. CHAMBERS. Knocked down, beat up and dominated.

Posted May 8, 2014 10:40 pm 


Pulev’s win over Tony Thompson is not impressive because Wladimir stopped Thompson twice.

But his knockout wins over 6′ 7″ (taller than Wladimir) Alexander Ustinov and Alexander Dimitrenko were excellent wins. Both are tall, strong hard punchers that were knocked out for the first time in their respective careers by Pulev.

Wladimir will still be the favorite to win but Pulev has a good chance.

Posted May 8, 2014 10:30 pm 


“I’m rooting for Chris Arreola to win his fight coming up. THat should set up a fight with Wlad in the USA” – Captain Freddie.

How do you figure that out Freddie?

There isn’t likely to be a unification bout for at least 2 further WBC title fights after the WBC king has been decided, and even if a champion at the end of it is from the USA, he will still only hold one belt over Wlads 3, so team Wlad would still get to decide where to stage a unification bout.

Posted May 8, 2014 10:26 pm 


Pulev is a bigger challenge than either Stiverne or Arreolla. Maybe people don’t realize Austin was beating Stiverne before he gassed out in the 10th round. He was also stopped by 10-15 fighter. I wouldn’t be surprised if Arreolla stops Stiverne, but Chris doesn’t have the skill level of Stiverne.

Posted May 8, 2014 10:15 pm 

Captain Freddie

I’m rooting for Chris Arreola to win his fight coming up. THat should set up a fight with Wlad in the USA.

Posted May 8, 2014 9:12 pm 


SANITY says “How the hell was Ali at his peak at 32 TARK?

Ali will tell you that himself. He was bigger, stronger, more physically mature, and he punched harder. He also had more experience against better fighters. He probably fought his peak fight against Foreman. It wasn’t just 5 extra pounds. Ali lost his baby fat and was stronger. His 212 for Williams was like his 221 for Ellis. Ali came in heavy for both fights because his opponents were washed up.

Remember he was 201 for Cooper and 203 for Mildenberger just before that.

SANITY says.., “On a previous thread you asked “How many fighters taller and larger than Ali did he beat.”

Okay, I was talking contenders so let’s eliminate many of your choices.

Sabedong’s career record was 16 wins in 35 fights. He was worse than terrible. Charlie Powell was a football player with no amateur background, basically a punching bag. Wepner was bigger than Ali, but had no business getting a title shot. Even Duane Bobick beat Wepner.

There were lots of non-contenders who Wladimir fought who were bigger than him. I’m not counting those… even if their ring records were very good like Fabio Moli and Paea Wolframm who outweighed Wlad a mile.

Mathis was 60 pounds overweight when he met Ali. His frame wasn’t bigger and he wasn’t taller. Mathis weighed 226 for Jim Beattie and was still fat at 226. Chuvalo was only 6’0” tall. The fact that Chuvalo was fatter doesn’t make him bigger. Williams was listed the same height as Ali but he weighed LESS—so he wasn’t bigger. Norton wasn’t taller and he weighed LESS than Ali—so he wasn’t bigger. Holmes was slightly taller than Ali—but Ali didn’t beat Holmes.

Terrell was taller. Blue Lewis was bigger. Bugner was. Foreman was.

Klitschko beat just as many contenders who were physically bigger than him: McCline, Jefferson, Austin, and Wach… You miss my point. Just because Wladimir is huge doesn’t mean he towers over everyone he fights. He has yet to fight Fury and Wilder who are both taller, so there are more big tall guys coming after him.

Posted May 8, 2014 8:43 pm 


Pulev is solid but he doesn’t have that WOW factor. Wlad by Jab FEST late stoppage.

Posted May 8, 2014 8:23 pm 


I don’t usually make predictions,but, Pulev will get knocked out, no doubt at all.

Posted May 8, 2014 7:57 pm 


Hi Sanity, Ali outweighed his opponents by an average of 5 lbs 209-204 or 2%. Wlad has outweighed his opponents by only 1 lb 236-235 lbs or 1%. So the fact is that Ali had more of a size advantage through-out his career than Wlad has. So anybody that brings up that argument is blowing smoke. Foreman had an even greater advantage. If anyone does not believe these statistics I would be glad to share the spreadsheet with you and you can analyze to your hearts content. I will also have winning percentages of opponents, etc.

Posted May 8, 2014 7:49 pm 

Who killed JFK ?

Ali is truly the GOAT!

Posted May 8, 2014 7:36 pm 


LionKing you seem to have misunderstood my point!
The reason why I picked those 2 fights (Haye & Povetkin) is simply because those were the 2 fighters that were supposedly going to make for a good match up against Wlad and therefore an exciting fight………I for one never believed the “Fight of the century” hype that proceeded the Haye, Wlad fight simply because I knew how Haye might try to fight Wlad……and I also knew what Wlad might do, this isn’t being wise after the event, I even posted a few times here on Eastside that the Haye vs Wlad fight probably won’t be that exciting………and that was very much a minority view at the time.
The Povetkin fight although to a much lesser degree was also viewed by some as an “exciting” fight, I myself thought it might be a dull fight.
A truly exciting fight to me is one where both fighters get some good quality exchanges in rather than one guy dominating the other.
That is precisely why I don’t think the Pulev vs Wlad fight will be that exciting, Pulev probably won’t have enough in his arsenal to win more than 2-3 rounds at best, and Wlad is a master at dominating at distance without too much risk.

Posted May 8, 2014 7:23 pm 


To fight wlad is real easy all you have to do is earn a mandatory status. Wlad is not throwing any belts in the trash. And if he gets the WBC fighters will have 4 different avenues they can choose to fight him. The WBC road might be harder than the WBO road but it dont matter because there are four roads to choose from. He fights his mandatories.

Posted May 8, 2014 6:21 pm 


The main things a fighter needs to beat Wlad is speed and lots of aggresion, real mean aggresion, think Dempsey/Willard.

Posted May 8, 2014 6:20 pm 


Who hits harder and who is faster, haye or pulev? Cmon

Posted May 8, 2014 6:16 pm 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

“Lion King history suggests that it won’t be an exciting fight……….remember the Haye & Povetkin fights?”

What makes an exciting fight is in the eye of the beholder, as it’s very subjective. You may find BW and FW fights to be more exciting because the tiny men are much faster. But I find Wlad’s fights to be exciting because most of the time he knocks his opponents down at least once and/or knocks them out. KOs caused by HW bombs are exciting!

You can’t blame Wlad for the Haye fight being a stinker because it was Haye who ran and flopped all over the ring and totally refused to exchange. WK was doing his best to walk Haye down and exchange with him. Place the blame where it belongs: on David Haye’s shoulders.

Although Klitschko vs. Povetkin was probably Wlad’s most boring performance to date, he still knocked Al Pov down 4 different times. And like I said, knock downs are exciting. WK has had 65 pro fights and you picked out two when trying to make the point that he’s a boring HW Champion. That’s what’s called making vast generalizations or “grasping at straws.”

Posted May 8, 2014 6:11 pm 


Pulev’s comin’ into dis fight tuned like a fine watch and we goin’ to see the two best left jabs in the HW class goin’ at it. Da man wid da best jab goin’ to win dis fight!

Posted May 8, 2014 6:01 pm 


Pulev may have a punchers chance but that is all. His opposition has been as bad as bad as Potevkin and Boystov . Whatever one says about Wlad he has been beating up these kinds of fighters for a decade.

It would be a very big upset if he was defeated.

Posted May 8, 2014 6:01 pm 


Long overdue. Finally someone to put an end to Fraudimir

Posted May 8, 2014 6:00 pm 


How the hell was Ali at his peak at 32 Tark ?

He was nearing his peak in the Terrell, Williams and Foley fights but then had a 3 and a half year hiatus .

George Chuvalo fought Ali n 1966 and in 1973 and he stated that the 66 version was better. More stamina , much faster foot speed and as hard a puncher. One of the myths about Ali is that he was lighter in weight in his first title reign. His weight for the Williams fight was 212 and a half and the Foreman fight it was 217. I dont think 4 and a half pounds of extra weight means Ali was “bigger and stronger “in his comeback.

On a previous thread you asked “How many fighters taller and or larger than Ali did he beat ? “in response to someone stating Wladimir hadnt beaten many fighters larger than himself .

Its actually quite surprising how many “bigger “guys Ali defeated . I will list them for you .

Duke Sabedong was 6 ft 6 .Charlie Powell was 6 ft 3 and fought at a heavier weight than Ali ( he was also a champion all round sportsman , evidently a better footballer than fighter ) .
Sonny Liston outweighed Ali and had a longer reach. Geoerge Chuvalo slightly outweighed Ali.Cleveland Williams was taller than Ali and weighed basically the same ( around 210 ) .Ernie Terrell was bigger than Ali.Buster Mathis was taller and heavier than Ali. Alvin Blue Lewis was slightly taller than Ali. Joe Bugner was taller and heavier than Ali. Ken Norton was a half inch taller than Ali and about the same weight. George Foreman was taller and heavier than Ali as was Chuck Wepner. Larry Holmes is a half inch taller than Ali .

That is 13 fighters Tark.

Posted May 8, 2014 5:58 pm 


Hi KL, He doesn’t really have trouble beating any type of fighter, but when I say fights better I mean he doesn’t clinch as much. His fight against Wach is an example. Leapai was just too short and slow, so after the first round he didn’t need to do any clinching or leaning.

Posted May 8, 2014 5:56 pm 


When will this bout take place??? Any guesses????

Posted May 8, 2014 5:38 pm 


I hope to watch this. see wlad winning big.

Posted May 8, 2014 5:31 pm 

Another Boxing Fan

Sorry – “for the simple reason that there is no better challange for Wlad out there”

Posted May 8, 2014 5:26 pm 

Another Boxing Fan

No matter if Pulev has chance to beat Wlad or not, I will watch this bout for the simple reason that this is no better challange for Wlad out there, but first they should agree about all details, which might be a problem and the fight to be postponed for 5-6 months or more.

Posted May 8, 2014 5:25 pm 


“Wlad actually fights better against taller opponents.” – Laj

Yeah he really found Leapai a difficult target!!!

Posted May 8, 2014 5:17 pm 


About freaking time !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted May 8, 2014 5:13 pm 


Sorry, actually not worse fight ever, worse fight in the last 10 years, his losses were of course worse.

Posted May 8, 2014 4:54 pm 


I actually think Povetkin is better than Pulev. That was Wlad’s worse fight ever. Wlad actually fights better against taller opponents. Rarely clinching, and controlling range like a master. I do think Pulev has a better jab than Povetkin, but other than that not much to offer that Wlad hasn’t seen before. Should be similar to the Brock fight. The only way I can see Pulev winning is by a freak injury or cut, and I don’t see that happening. Pulev is the best available out there right now, so hopefully I am wrong and he puts up a great fight and we have some real drama.

Posted May 8, 2014 4:53 pm 


Tark, you are right.

Pulev is extremely tough and mean in the ring.

He exhibited cruelty in the Travis Walker fight.

He seems to enjoy inflicting painful jabs on opponents. Instead of knocking you out, he rather kill you with a thousand cuts.

Klitschko knows full well the danger Pulev represents.

Wlad will come in chiselled from marble, trained to perfection.

This is all or nothing for both men.

Posted May 8, 2014 4:36 pm 


Pulev is only 1,5″ smaller than Wlad. If we should see hugging, then it’s only because Pulev will lead with his head held low like the chubby russian Povetkin.
If Pulev comes to box, this could be an entertaining night with Wlad winning a maybe good fought battle.

Posted May 8, 2014 4:32 pm 


Pulev is the best CHALLANGER against klitchko today one reason only , he has a good balance and a good experienced boxer overall , I expect a good fight here

Posted May 8, 2014 4:01 pm 


Someone is calling wach a bum
Here. .. Lol wach would beat most of 90 ‘s top ten bums like axel schuss who was robbed in a fight wit Forman , Jeremy Williams , morrer etc…

Posted May 8, 2014 3:58 pm 


“I believe Wlad will win, but I expect Pulev to provide more of a challenge than Leapai did.” – Brazilian Boxing Fan

I bow to your genius Brazilian Boxing Fan, are you related to Albert Einstein by any chance?

Posted May 8, 2014 3:53 pm 



Posted May 8, 2014 3:53 pm 



Pulev, get ready to be HOLD & HOLD & HOLD & HOLD…

And get knock the f@@k out in the end! Lol

Posted May 8, 2014 3:47 pm 


If Pulev can somehow negotiate the killer jab of Klitschko, he could test the chin of Wlad which remains untested for around a decade now. I hope Pulev works on his inside game as Wlad will all over him once he closes distance. I expect Wlad to win but this is definitely a better fight to watch than Wlad’s recent choice of opponents.

Posted May 8, 2014 3:46 pm 

Brazilian Boxing Fan

I believe Wlad will win, but I expect Pulev to provide more of a challenge than Leapai did.

Posted May 8, 2014 3:43 pm 


“Great news, as this should be an exciting HW fight!” – Lion King

Lion King history suggests that it won’t be an exciting fight……….remember the Haye & Povetkin fights?
Wlad gives more respect to the better calibre fighters and therefore you are likely to see an ultra cautious Wlad using spoiling tactics or box exclusively a long range.
Pulev is good calibre opponent for Wlad, but does it mean an “exciting” fight……..I have my doubts.

Posted May 8, 2014 3:30 pm 

doggone catcher

I don’t expect any spoiler tactics as pulev is a stand up boxer who uses footwork and his jab to win. I expect a mostly boring chess match that could see wlad going for the ko if he can’t outbox pulev. I think there is some possibility that pulev can match wlad jab for jab and pulev has the footwork to foil a few right hands

Posted May 8, 2014 3:28 pm 


Well a far better mandatory than Leapai, and Pulev has rightfully earned a shot at Wlad.
Is Pulev good enough to give Wlad a close fight……..I doubt it………in truth Pulev would do well if he wins a couple of rounds.
A 40+ year old Thompson was giving Pulev a boxing lesson for the first part of their fight………Wlad hits somewhat harder than Thompson!
Sure Pulev stopped the giant Ustinov, but Ustinov is sloooooow, something Wlad isn’t.
That said Wlad is likely to respect Pulev much more than Leapai and therefore we can expect more spoling tactics employed by Wlad as we saw in the Povetkin bout, also Wlad probably will be less inclined to step it up against Pulev……….in the end we will probably end up with a boring 12 round jabfest won at distance by Wlad.

Posted May 8, 2014 3:18 pm 


Sorry not a ko boxer

Posted May 8, 2014 3:18 pm 


Pulev is not a ok boxer and he sure won’t outbox wlad so what’s so interesting here ???

Posted May 8, 2014 3:17 pm 


Competitive heavyweight fights have been made, are being made, and are coming.

Boytsov vs Leapai was a bit of a dud and so was Leapai’s title shot… Glazkov vs Adamek was a much better fight, as was Arreola-Stiverne I.

And now we’ve got Arreola vs Stiverne II… Fury vs Chisora… Jenning vs Perez… Stiverne should be matched next against Deontay Wilder… and Klitschko vs Pulev is a damned interesting fight … the Heavyweight Division is beginning to heat up. The landscape will be very interesting in 2 or 3 years.

Posted May 8, 2014 3:14 pm 

Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

Mr. Pulev is in dreamland.His owns and I quote,’it was a walk in the park for Wlad against Leapai’ it will also be a walk in the park against you Mr. Pulev, you may not even make it past round 5 ,but you will also be knocked out like Leapai.

Posted May 8, 2014 3:06 pm 


Pulev’s got the size and an excellent jab. He’s is not explosive puncher, but rembember it’s a superheavyweight fight, even the “non-punchers” have real puncher’s chance when landing flush. Pulev’s great tactical mind which weights up many variables that many heawyweight contenders rely on today and in the past: using only their heavy brute power, but with a skilled opponent they get gassed in mid-late rounds (i.e. early Wlad Klitchko himself) and high chance to be taken out. Wlad is completely different fighter today with rock solid tactics, but I think Pulev does stand surprisingly high chance, much more than the rest of the HW contenders protecting their “0” virginity by not fighting each other and gaining the much needed experience to compete on super-heavy elite level. Pulev took on Thompson, Ustinov & Dimitrenko – all feared HW contenders the time they fought. Yes, you have a high chance to lose, if you win, you’ll be much stronger, but if you lose and bouce back you’ll be even stronger – ask Louis, Lewis or Klitchko himself.

Ironically I think cherry picking and avoiding the best competition is the Mayweather legacy on today’s boxing culture – most top boxers tend to think that “0” means everything.

Posted May 8, 2014 2:44 pm 

Master Ken

Pulev is NO threat to Wlad.. His KO% is extremely low !!! Nothing for Wlad to worry about. Lol

Posted May 8, 2014 2:35 pm 

Who killed JFK ?

Lion King, I totally agree

Posted May 8, 2014 2:34 pm 

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Great news, as this should be an exciting HW fight! I think it’s better for Wlad to get Pulev out of the way sooner as opposed to later. Pulev is good enough to beat most HWs and give WK a good competitive fight, but he doesn’t have enough power to stop him. And if he can’t stop him, I really don’t think he can beat him.

But hey…WK is 38-years-old now (although he looks about 28) and that’s the age when most fighters lose a step and start slipping. I predict that WK will get a BIG win over Pulev.

Posted May 8, 2014 2:30 pm 


@lol.., ALL of Wladimir’s fights were more exciting than Ali-Evangelista. Klitschko-Povetkin was no barn burner—but at least there were 4 knockdowns and a couple throw downs. Whenever you had somebody with the ability to punch Ali in the head hard and often, it made for more exciting fights. That also takes a toll.

Ali was never a master defender like Wladimir eventually became after about 6 years with Steward. Even Maestro Chris Byrd and Fast Eddie Chambers couldn’t land a good lick in on Wladimir. David Haye got about 5 really hard punches in on Wladimir in 12 rounds, with no effective follow ups possible.

Jimmy Young popped Ali plenty. Ken Norton clobbered Ali around pretty good. Frazier and even Spinks found a home for left hooks on Ali’s jaw. Part of it was poor defense. Part of it was Ali’s jab didn’t have the deception, speed, or power to keep those guys off of him and keep them honest.

Ali didn’t keep getting better and better. He reached his peak at about 32 and declined after that. He wasn’t that interested in mastering his sport.

Posted May 8, 2014 2:25 pm 


Pulve has a very good jab, Wlad got a much better one. Pulev got no pop for a HW, Wlad got plenty. Pulev has 20 fights, Wlad has almost 3 times it. Actually, Wlad KOs are twice the number of FIGHTS Pulev had, or 5 times more KOs vs KOs. Pulev seems like a good, hard working lad, but make no mistake, Wlad will brutalize him, probably making him quit on the stool with one (or both) eye(s) shut.

Posted May 8, 2014 2:24 pm 


London………..11 kos in 20 fights is 55%

Posted May 8, 2014 2:17 pm 



And Wlad will beat him and then he too will be labled a bum.

Posted May 8, 2014 9:29 am


Posted May 8, 2014 2:16 pm 


Glass jaw, weak chin, blah blah blah. Its a pipe dream.

Posted May 8, 2014 2:14 pm 


Pulev will likely lose but by strangulation, he’s better than Povietkin. I’d like to see him hit that glass jaw to see if it holds up.

Posted May 8, 2014 2:05 pm 

Khan’s Cuz Achmed

Someone named “Christian Warrior” using a racial slur and telling me to blow myself up. Interesting.

Posted May 8, 2014 1:51 pm 


hope this fight is as exiteing as wlado”s last 40 fights.

Posted May 8, 2014 1:50 pm 


Wlad is going for unification first. If he can’t unify then pulev gets a crack or shall I say gets cracked. The IBF usually works well with unifying titles. If he dont have the power to stop wlad, what is he gonna do exactly. Out jab him? Smh.

Posted May 8, 2014 1:38 pm 

boxing barlow

Not a bad fight for Vlad. Certainly better than Leapai, Panieta, Wach and Mormek who Vlad has fought in the past 2 years and would not even make this very poor divisions top ten fighters.

Posted May 8, 2014 1:35 pm 


In an interview Tony Thompson makes an excuse for losing to him but he predicted that Klitschko would take Pulev out easily. I’ve never seen him fight. Is he any good or another padded record warrior.

Posted May 8, 2014 1:30 pm 

Who killed JFK ?

Pulev is hugely overrated!!!!! He was hurt by Travis Walker and hasnt really beaten anybody. Kubrat hasnt a single advantage. Wlad is faster, stronger, taller, a harder puncher and has better overall boxing skills.

Posted May 8, 2014 1:28 pm 

Swedish Boxing Fan

WellI can’t say we are suprised by this confirmation from IBF as almost all of us boxing people already knew that IBF 1# mandatory challanger Kubrat Pulev was the heavyweight contender next up for Wladimir Klitschko to fight in order to defend his undisputed/unified world heavyweight title.
Pulev is also for the record ranked by the Ring as the Nr.1# heavyweight contender along with Fightnews as the 2# best heavyweight in the ranks.

I mean no one can take away Pulev’s right to a world title shot as he have been a possible contender for a long time now, back to 2011 or 2012 was the first time he was named by fans to be a promising heavyweight challanger.

Sence August 24 2014 when Pulev won the IBF Heavyweight title Eleminator with a clear UD contest against Tony Thompson he have been patiently waiting for his rightfull earned title shot and Wladimir Klitschko have known for a longer time he would sooner or later end up defending his title against him.

Posted May 8, 2014 1:16 pm 


Pulev, get ready to be HOLD & HOLD & HOLD & HOLD…

Posted May 8, 2014 1:11 pm 


another hw comedy show from germany.

Posted May 8, 2014 1:01 pm 


The end of the road for Pulev. He is going to be fully exposed and beaten badly.

Posted May 8, 2014 12:56 pm 


Should be one of the tuffest fights for Wlad . But this version of Wlad should beat Pulev .

Posted May 8, 2014 12:53 pm 


Mmm wonder what the odds on pulev
Win might be worth a little punt eh
I see wlad winning but u never now
Pulev quality boxer no one can deny

Posted May 8, 2014 12:51 pm 

Christian Warrior

Khan’s Cuz Achmed@ why don’t you go and detonate yourself, mudface.

Pulev is good, but Wladimir will win.

Posted May 8, 2014 12:46 pm 


As soon as Pulev will try to get the fight even remotely competitive, Klit will go into full extended left arm+hugging+leaning mode and once again get away with it.

It’s this stuff he would not have gotten away with but punished for against prime Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson and other fighters in that era.

The coward style he developed after he recognized he has the chin and heart of a gnat. That is why he will never be an ATG.

Posted May 8, 2014 12:44 pm 

Khan’s Cuz Achmed

What about Tyson Fury? Oh that’s right he will be performing in the circus. What a putz! #KingKhan2014

Posted May 8, 2014 12:34 pm 


Pulev has a 40% KO ratio

Posted May 8, 2014 12:33 pm 


I thought Wlad would go after Tua. Thanks IBF for forcing a crap fight.

Posted May 8, 2014 12:33 pm 


Don’t get me wrong, Pulev is probably the best fight out there for Wlad, but i dont think he will be that competative

Posted May 8, 2014 12:27 pm 


A better opponent for Wlad and the right fight. Pulev matches up well size-wise and can make it a tough night for Wladimir: he’s a well-schooled big man himself, but I doubt he’ll have enough to win. Klitschko has more power, and I’d expect a good points win for Wlad, maybe even a late rounds stoppage.

Posted May 8, 2014 12:18 pm 


Noone can stop Ustinov, except Pulev :)

Posted May 8, 2014 12:13 pm 

Another boxing fan

Noone can stop Thompson, except Wlad. Noone can beat Thompson, except Wlad and far from his best shape Pulev (he was fat for the fight with Thompson).

Posted May 8, 2014 12:11 pm 


I can’t see a way for Pulev to win here. He has a great jab but how can it work against a man with a massive height and reach advantage and an even better jab? Ive never seen Pulev even attempt to fight inside either. Ive also heard people talk about his power, but he has a 55% KO ratio lol

Posted May 8, 2014 12:06 pm 

K2 Fan

@Matthews ; You called it perfectly !

Posted May 8, 2014 12:00 pm 

Who killed JFK ?

tark that’s ridiculous!!!! pulev couldn’t even stop thompson!!!

Posted May 8, 2014 11:42 am 


Pulev can’t hang with klitschko point blank that jab is gonna kill him

Posted May 8, 2014 11:31 am 


It is going to be a good fight and I am looking forward to it. Wlad will get hit, but Pulev will get hit harder. I think Wlad wins this by a TKO late rounds when Pulev gets sloppy. Pulev does have a good shin though, as witnessed in the Freight Train fight. But Wlad has the ability to get in the accurate heavy punches.

Posted May 8, 2014 11:21 am 


Pulev has more than enough power to stop Wladimir, or anybody else. But so did Mariusz Wach.

Pulev just won’t hit Klitschko real good. Leapai dropped Boytsov twice and beat the crap out of him. The only thing Boytsov could do all night was grab, wrestle, push, and hold on for dear life, or he would have been stopped. People thought Wladimir was going to grab Leapai in the same manner and make the fight a 12-round stinker.

What happened is Waldimir hit Leapai with hooks, jabs, or right hands on the smallest crack of an opening. AL couldn’t land a significant punch. Wladimir had sparring sessions that went more rounds and were much tougher.

Wladimir has achieved a mastery that Pulev just doesn’t have yet. Their respective fights with Thompson tell the story. Pulev won easily but couldn’t hurt Thompson. The fight was an unbelievable stinker because Pulev couldn’t punch sharply or deceptively enough to defeat Thompson’s defense … and vice versa.

In their first fight—Thompson landed more punches on Wladimir than any opponent WK ever fought in his life. A really big, tall southpaw with skills creates problems for anyone. At times Michael Nunn was beating the crap out of defensive wizard James Toney. JT finally solved the puzzle.

In their rematch Tony couldn’t land those punches… Wladimir was going to knock TT out with the first real good lick he hit him with. He could reach him any time Tony tried to throw a serious punch, which wasn’t often.

It was like Chris Byrd’s rematch with Waldimir. It only got worse.

Posted May 8, 2014 11:17 am 


About time!!

This is the defining fight of both men’s careers.

Pulev is one of the most dangerous men Wlad will have fought.

Wlad seems better than Pulev in every area, but Pulev may be able to bother Wlad with his jab, and win rounds with sneakiness, in and out movement.

Or, Wlad could bust Pulev up with his own jab.

These are two extremely talented men.

Sometimes we get lucky. Sometimes we get what we want.

Sometimes the best actually fight the best.

Posted May 8, 2014 11:06 am 

sean p h

Good bout

Posted May 8, 2014 11:05 am 


I am not sold on Pulev yet…. not much power… very little variety in his attack… unproven chin. That said, he has at least earned his shot at Wlad. As for the fight, I fear that it may be very similar to the Ibragimov fight…. two jabbers keeping their distance. Hopefully I will be proven wrong. All that said, it can’t be worse than the recent Mormeck, Panieta, Wach, and Leipai chain of fights.

Posted May 8, 2014 11:05 am 

De Lima I.

This will be an interesting fight, but KP doesn’t have the power to stop WK.

Posted May 8, 2014 10:28 am 

mike s

All the excitement now will turn to criticism in a month and Pulev will be a bum by the time they climb in the ring. Doesn’t matter –Pulev is big, strong, good feet, and a great jabber. He’s just not quite as big, strong, as fast, or have Klitschko’s jab. Are chins gonna be the question here? I wonder where they are gonna fight? Lol

Posted May 8, 2014 10:18 am 

Another boxing fan

I will be not surprised, everyone knows that if someone has chance at the moment against Wladimir, this is Pulev. It could be even 60/40. Good bout for Klitschko at last…

Posted May 8, 2014 10:13 am 


Thia is 65/35 fight but don’t be suprised if Pulev wins it! He is tough as f*** and got a lot of heart and skill…

Posted May 8, 2014 10:07 am 

Just stopped by

This is going to be different fight, not typical for Klitschko. Perhaps the most interesting fight in HW division since Lennox Lewis – Vitali.

Posted May 8, 2014 10:06 am 

Bob Nutsch

nope, this is gonna be a challenge…whichever way it goes

Posted May 8, 2014 9:49 am 


And Wlad will beat him and then he too will be labled a bum.

Posted May 8, 2014 9:29 am 

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