Stiverne seems like a tough fellow who can crack. I’m thinking Chris was unlucky in the first fight but still finished it. Guy needs a shrink.
If he could get his fat rump in shape, he could be very dangerous. Has power, a chin, toughness, size, heart. But looks like a pie-eating champion more than a fighter.
Would be nice to clear out the division – but no one wants to fight other contenders right now. Everyone with a decent rank is just waiting for Wlad to retire in the hopes of keeping their ranking and getting a shot at a belt. Like these two. Wilder is hanging back, so it the Bulgarian, the Brits, Hellenius is also hanging back, and it looks like they were wise to do so.
Look at Sam Peter. Guy would have been a threat to most guys above when he was in his prime. But his management kept feeding him to the Klitschkos – and they seemed very unwilling to stop the fights when he was clearly getting killed. He was never really the same after Vitali and was trashed after the second Wlad fight. Was brave – fought a bunch of tough guys – but took too much damage – was getting killed by everyone he went against when his management pulled the plug.
Povetkin and the Polish fellow are great fighters but small and take bad beatings every fight. They win by attrition and won’t get better with time.
I think Haye is playing it smart. Take time off, recover, call yourself retired. Let these guys clear things out. Guessing Wilder will be the last standing of the current crop. Brits (other than Haye) are a joke, Bulgarian is limited, Helenius getting old, and these two are just too fat and historically undisciplined to hold a belt for long.
But gotta respect Chris for fighting top guys and giving them hell every damn fight. Seriously, I don’t respect the guy’s training or diet but Chris is fearless and is unique among the current crop for being willing to fight anyone. Whether that is smart remains to be seen.
Honestly, I see Haye taking a break, then swooping in when Wlad retires and picking up a belt. Tough not to like Haye.
Prime Haye beats any of the current guys.Posted March 28, 2014 12:37 am
Lol what else do you think you know about boxing? You pick a couple weights he should show up in and think you know what your talkin about. The only fighters you should be talkin about are the ones you train personally and I don’t even think you are a trainer in anyway. Just another onlooker. Keep your eyes open come May 10thPosted March 26, 2014 3:09 pm
Arreola is a tough cookie, so the heart is there. Conditioning, stamina, strenght can overcome a skill deficit a lot of the time. Just the raw hunger and determination can a lot done for you. I use example of samuel peter, he was fit against first showing against wlad and even though he really has average skill at best he could have won the fight on brute strenght and determination. Sam peter fell off the horse after that and wasted what talent he had left but he showed how strengh and conditioning can overcome skill to a certain extent. Also site pavlik vs taylor first fight pavlik was just determined. I’m not saying you can always overcome skill if the gap is to big. But Vitali has some health problems and a strong young brute can take him by brute force, and wlad is starting to get up there in the years. I don’t see any hunger in wlad eyes either, so i think he is ripe for the picking as well. Any of these young heavyweight need to get in the best shape of there lives and go in tough and fierce. I mean Wlad and vitali have been beat before, it’s not impossible. The heavyweight scene has been a real embarresment to the sport lately, wlad and vitali are class acts but they haven’t had to fend off any real serious challenges as of late.Posted March 26, 2014 1:28 pm
If Arreola comes in at 225 or 230 he might have a chance, but he still lacks any sort of boxing skill, he has no defense and his straight forward, two left jabs and right hand are predictable and slow. He has the size and tools to have been something but his lack of discipline, and disrespect for the sport is a disgrace. If he wins he will just be another accidental paper champion.Posted March 26, 2014 7:57 am
When he does come into the fight in shape and beats BS……then what? I’m sure you’ll be one of the jock sniffers roaming around the scene huh. Keep your eyes open come May 10th.Posted March 25, 2014 8:50 pm
Arreola’s condition has always betrayed him because he doesn’t take care of himself the way a fighter should. He was given to many cream puffs before fighting Vitali and took a beating for 10 rounds before his corner saved his life. Back to cream puffs and took another beating this time from Stiverne. Fighting all those cream puffs never allowed him to see he was made of. He figured he could show up fat and out of shape and still win. Not at the world class level crispy cream breath you need to train 24/7, 365 days out of the year. He’s been given chance after chance and has never lived up to the hype that surrounds him. With the state of the Heavyweight division I can’t say this will be his last shot but it should be.Posted March 25, 2014 8:31 pm
Sweet, we get this fight on regular ESPN, which says they’ll periodically do fight cards not just on ESPN2. That’s good for the sport. PS: Not posting too fast ESB fix your tits. I’m outta here.Posted March 25, 2014 4:52 pm
I haven’t seen arreola lately, maybe he’s in better shape now which is very possible. I’m just saying you need someone to push you to be your best. And arreola has not reached his potential and I blame that on his training camp to a certain extent, they are supposed motivate him to be in shape and up for these fights. It’s a tall order to be in peak shape, I mean look at vlad and look at arreola, there is not comparison. Vlad in peak shape, arreola to much time at the burger joint. Roy jones, well trained in good shape, arreola to much time at the all you can eat buffet. Your body has to be in shape in boxing to give yourself your best chance. Arreola is just to fat, unfit, weak etc to seriously hurt wlad, at least if he was in shape he could pull off a ko ala rahman vs lewis 1 but arreola never gave himself that chance. Arreola is not a big heavy like vlad or vitali so he is at a disadvanatge anyway. He wants to win but hasn’t lived up to the potential, more of disappointment is what arreola is, rough around the edges, a bit out of shape fat, really doesn’t lend itself to gereat things.Posted March 25, 2014 4:43 pm
The Pilsbury Dough boy is getting KO’d.Posted March 25, 2014 4:21 pm
@ Jim rich
What do you mean exactly when you say he needs a training camp that takes him seriously?Posted March 25, 2014 1:25 pm
Arreola training and athletic ability have always been suspenct, seems to come in less than optimal condition. Arreola until he can get himself together physically I don’t think he is there mentally either. Arreola takes a good beating and has heart but that isn’t going to win you any championships, it’s just go to get you beat up badly. He’s a likeable guy but he needs a training camp that take him seriously and I don’t think he has that so advantage to stiverne again. Hopefully we will see a good fight.Posted March 25, 2014 1:00 pm
Boxing should be ashamed to call this a championship fight.Posted March 25, 2014 12:23 pm
eric has watermelon pulp for a brain.Posted March 25, 2014 10:30 am
someone going to hang the belt on someone in USA, avoid a pulev fight, argue that the fans want to see a WBC fight with someone. it would be funny if leapai messes this whole plan up.Posted March 25, 2014 7:06 am
Stiverne’s team will hang a Watermelon on a fishing pole to get him to move around the ring effectively.
In training it’s been very effective, rumour has it stiverne broke thru a crowd in an attempt at an empty fried chicken box, imagine the destructive behavior stiverne will present with a real chicken in the ring.
I can see stiverne devouring watermelons and chickens inbetween combinationsPosted March 25, 2014 3:12 am
Think stiverne will probably win, if he can take wilder into round 4 he’ll win either way wlad destroys either onePosted March 25, 2014 2:34 am
Stiverne has an advantage in that he’s a disciplined trainer. He sticks to his diet and sacrifices pizza, beer, ice cream, cookies, potato chips, crackers, and hamburgers, in favor of lean meats and vegetables in training.. He’s going to be in shape to go 12 hard rounds.
So if Arreola has any notions of winning this fight he needs to bring his lunch.Posted March 25, 2014 2:11 am
Arreola was suppose to be ready in their first fight wonder what happened to that. Arreola is going to receive another shellacking.Posted March 25, 2014 1:04 am
@ DR: My thoughts exactly!Posted March 25, 2014 12:33 am
ARREOLA will be ready….trust mePosted March 24, 2014 11:45 pm
Arreola will be out for blood in this one.Posted March 24, 2014 11:43 pm
Jonn E. JaGozza
This is do or die for Arreola as he has given only
I’ll give Chris Arreola a lot of credit for taking a second fight against Stiverne .. It’s not easy fighting with a busted nose for twelve rounds like Arreola did . Most experts wonder what kind of mind set Arreola brings into this fight , knowing that Stiverne could actually hurt him again . But i have seen many a Champions quit after having their noses broken . Arreola is a tough son of a b-tch !!!Posted March 24, 2014 9:42 pm
Stiverne already knows he can beat Arreola… He’s felt everything Chris can throw and took it well. He just needs to train hard, get great sparring, and be ready. He knows Chris is going to be in much better shape than last time … or that he possibly will be in much better shape.
With Chris you never know… but he’ll be ready for whatever Chris shows upPosted March 24, 2014 9:20 pm
I hope to watch this on ESPN. If I am not out fishing or hiking. Should be a good match.Posted March 24, 2014 6:34 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
Speaking of Wladimir Klitschko, his birthday is tommorow! (2014-03-25), He will turn 38 years old and still going strong.
The heavyweight champion of the world sence 2006 with 15 world title defences and a total world heavyweight title record of 22-2-0 with KO’s 17 from two title reigns so he is strong on the champion throne.Posted March 24, 2014 6:07 pm
Didn’t see the first fight (is it worth watching?). I’ll go Arreola because I like his toughness.Posted March 24, 2014 5:03 pm
…the funny thing about that comment was it wasn’t even funny at all. Lmao.Posted March 24, 2014 4:48 pm
another hw joke fight.Posted March 24, 2014 3:43 pm
Areola’s team will hang a Apple pie on a fishing pole to get him to move around the ring effectively.
In training it’s been very effective, rumour has it areola broke thru a crowd in an attempt at an empty pie box, imagine the destructive behavior areola will present with a real pie in the ring.
I can see areola devouring pies inbetween combinationsPosted March 24, 2014 3:25 pm
Deontay shouldn’t wait for the winner… He should take take the best possible opponent he can find because 90 odd seconds isn’t enough action for months of prepartation.. Tyson has 28 fights in 2 years, then fought a title fight..
The key for great punchers who clean everybody out in a hurry is a ton of fights.
You may not think you need all those rounds of experience… The day will come when you need them desperately.Posted March 24, 2014 3:10 pm
It’s a good thing the fight isn’t taking place in Mexico. B-ware by UD or late stoppage.Posted March 24, 2014 2:06 pm