how come a lot of fans on esb love drug cheats.Posted March 6, 2014 3:49 pm
B Red is one stupid, MFing, ingorant assed crackhead.
Chavez Sr was knocked down and beaten by Frankie Randall… stopped twice by De La Hoya… stopped by Tszyu… stopped by Grover Wiley.
Julio Jr has never been stopped and fought harder punchers than Sr ever fought, such as Martinez.
He’s not a good boxer so he gets hit more than his daddy, but nobody’s made a dent in that 3″ thick skull yet… Like I said, Sergio had to stop punching so hard because his hands were swelling up… If that were a 15 rounder??? ..JCC Jr might have won it.Posted March 6, 2014 2:54 am
B RED, i don’t think that he’s a person. i think that he’s a trained chimp with a repertoire of about two posts that he’s been recycling and posting for about two years. ever since Salido literally walked into Lopez’s backyard and Beat the “greatness” right out of him . . . Twice. Enema’s been in a sustained spiral ever since and you can always pick out his desperate cries for help no matter what handle he uses (as if “Public Enemy” wasn’t lame enough . . . “Yeahhh Boiii”).Posted March 6, 2014 1:02 am
Is Public Enemy and Messyhoe the same person?Posted March 6, 2014 12:30 am
“But Chavez Sr. was an admitted Drug Addict and alcoholic at the time as well as the Original . . . Glove Loader”? you got that wrong (again). that was Luis Resto who was succeeded by Cheato “The Original Glove Loader” Trinidud. “you’re welcome”. that’s what i’m here for. to educate filthy animals like yourself.Posted March 5, 2014 11:13 pm
Firme BEARS. as far as the promotional publicity. that’s all it is. that’s all it’s ever been. Floyd is currently dominating the deepest division in Boxing and at the heavier end. what’s so appealing about 154lbs-160lbs other than the increased possibility of a Floyd loss v. bigger, stronger fighters? it also wouldn’t make a bit of difference to the rankings because Floyd may steal on middleweights but he’s not planting his flag in middle. 147lbs is Mayweather’s standing concession. Want Some? Get Some. for the record, 45 have tried and 45 have returned empty-handed and worse.Posted March 5, 2014 11:09 pm
te tumbo- well i guess it really is u and not sredmond and thats cool. i dont think the fight should have been that hard to negotiate and i dont think testing is one mans cross to bare in bixing. ultimately, pac agreed to the plethora of demands including testing. then arum became the next excuse/demand. clearly this is a track record te tumbo. floyd has said he would fight serg martinez YEARS ago serg said he would make 154 then thats a superfight. 3g has said he woul make 154 to meet floyd again superfight. and pac has been the biggest superfight of decades. nothing materializing though floyd said he would fight pac and serg on video and i dont know what he has said in regards to 3gPosted March 5, 2014 10:10 pm
Tark makes some dumb statements . How can you say Jr has a better chin than his dad.Posted March 5, 2014 8:50 pm
“Chavez beat Vera once in 2 tries… SO WHAT??? Andy Lee beat Vera too”. Jr. beat Vera and Andy Lee. “Actually, Junior has a spectacular chin…better than his father’s ever was…” based on what? 115 fights and not a single KO loss? or 90 straight wins v. every single elite, contender, and gatekeeper in three divisions without a single loss?Posted March 5, 2014 8:34 pm
Chavez beat Vera once in 2 tries… SO WHAT??? Andy Lee beat Vera too. Chavez is a modern day Vito Antufermo… Tough but no boxing skills. “Old Man Martinez” riddled Jr with every punch in the book and won 11 rounds. He had to stop punching so hard because his hands started going.
Actually, Junior has a spectacular chin…better than his father’s ever was… But it won’t hold up when he faces GGG, who has the best liver shot in Boxing.Posted March 5, 2014 6:06 pm
“or is this not te tumbo but sredmond?” (lol) you can’t blame me for chuckling when i realize just how deeply i’ve penetrated and disturbed the psyches of some ESB posters. otherwise, i remain . . . UnFnFadeable . . . :twisted:Posted March 5, 2014 5:13 pm
BEARS, if you bother to look left, or right, or above, or below, you’re bound to find Herron’s discarded analyses for the Jr. v. Vera fight-card where I left it: deep in his ass-crack. something about Lomachenko completing a “paint job” on Salido (in only his second pro-bout?!?) and Jr. not being able to use distance to place shots on Vera’s chin and jaw. WRONG. of course, it didn’t stop Herron from slapping on his “Scoop” fedora and begin to browbeat me about “nuthuggery” followed by a pouty, boo-boo-lipped rant about how “tough” he’s had it in the “industry”, personal integrity, and who knows Wtf else. the bum tried doing it again on this message board. completely unprovoked and even after being embarrassed by his previous (albeit clueless) fight analyses. what is it with you girls? you begin these pi$$ing-bouts and then get all bent when you’re embarrassed by reality, e.g., YOU brought up the previous article but don’t dare revisit it and be once again slapped by the TRUTH:
you see how racist these white boys are floyd has beat every champ out there and he is critizied all the time but ggg has beat nobody floyd has beat hall of famers ggg has beat nobody but ggg gets all this credit by these racist devilsPosted March 5, 2014 4:20 pm
Shut UP Bears. Pacquiao feared Floyd SO much that he got himself knocked out by Marquez on PURPOSE to avoid the Fight. He knew that Floyd was next IF he WON. And he knew that Floyd would not face a recent knockout VICTIM SO he got himself knocked out.Posted March 5, 2014 4:08 pm
BRed I took Canelo by ENTERTAINING late stoppagePosted March 5, 2014 4:02 pm
“lets put an asterisk next to floyds name every time he said he would fight a guy and ducked. we got pac, williams, Martinez”. WHEN? when and where did Floyd challenge Martinez or Williams? and Pacquiao* reFUSED to face Floyd over harmless and MUTUALLY-Applied testing. face it: you’re an incoherent ass.Posted March 5, 2014 10:39 am
“we all know whats up if someone wants to dig it up . . .” that “someone” is YOU. You dug it up and as I predicted (accurately once again) you’re feeling sheepish at having pissed in your own face. otherwise, i buried Herron’s praise of Lomachenko and mis-analysis of Jr’s. fight-plan in his own ass-crack. at his own request, mind you. apparently, no one can express an original opinion without Mr. “Journalist” attempting to pull rank and browbeat them into submission as if he knew any better based on what?!? unless Herron can prove his predictions have made him a millionaire, he needs to start reading and learning twice as much as he writes. “i care a lot less about peds and a lot more about fights”? BullSh@t. if that were the case you would be as pi$$ed as I am that Pacquiao* used stricter testing to avoid Floyd based on the integrity of the existing commissions(?!?). what a convenient crock-of-sh@t that is. Btw, how’s that brand new 40,000-seat boxing venue coming along? preCISEly . . . NEXT?Posted March 5, 2014 10:36 am
Bears – where exactly does Mayweather feature in this article. You’re obsessed and need another hobbie dude.Posted March 5, 2014 7:58 am
Manny Lady Boy
Ruv u rong time bears?Posted March 5, 2014 5:44 am
Manny Lady Boy
Froyd lay beta den me…me done, me still sleepy fron 1 Marquez….Froyd de champ, me firished…Posted March 5, 2014 5:40 am
lets put an asterisk next to floyds name every time he said he would fight a guy and ducked. we got pac, williams, martinez. i think we should throw the fake retirement on there too nobody bought for a second when his division lit up. i also think when u fight guerrero, ortiz, and maidana, and bs catchweight on canelo instead of fighting pac, 3g, martinez, shoot ucould make a case for lara, trout over them guys.
so how many asterisks is that?
fraud may*********Posted March 5, 2014 4:06 am
pretending like drug testing boxing is one mans cross to bare is retarded son. as bob arum has said ” the association of boxing commisions need to install a system whereby the commisions preside over testing.
maybe this is just one more issue and problem multiple sanctioning bodies bring to boxing. dana white woul be smart to start and independent boxing division that has nothing to do with the alphabet soup entities.
the thread. you were there, i was there joe herron was there. we all know whats up if someone wants to dig it up coo. dont mean a hill of beans to me as i already know.
why dont u worry about boxing, fights and matchups instead of acting like u need to ride with floyds excuses as though your the champion of the next bs excuse to be sharted out of floyds a$$? i care a lot less about peds and a lot more about fights. what did peds do for all the fuys that have been caught? show me one boxer who has long term career success on peds. its not just that u have no proof on pacman, u dont even have a premise son. all u have is the latest shart u huffed outta floyds a$$ and now your running with it. change your tag to sredmond son. ya garbagePosted March 5, 2014 3:49 am
fake “Tumbo” below. same old ass hole Bears immediately above. what a juvenile tantrum that was(?!). Btw, Pleeease direct posters to the article you’re referring too; please ask them to compare predictions; and please let us enjoy your sheepish expression after pissing in your own face.
Pacquiao*** deserves an asterisk for every time he inexplicably rejected harmless and MUTUALLY-Applied testing. Props to those fighters who test and “better luck next time” for those who test dirty. only a fighter whose hiding something (including a lack of confidence) rejects testing altogether.
fortunately, you’re not completely stupid and did agree with my analysis below. is that what’s got you all boo-boo lipped, princess?Posted March 5, 2014 3:00 am
i know u got your a$$ h0le bored 30 over a few pages away and now when u fart in sounds like some kid blowing bubblesPosted March 5, 2014 1:38 am
u dont really have a come back to my last post so u resort to that?
pretty much everyone of te tumbos pac smack talkn points was shut down on a joe herron thread the other day and his double standards were revealed. when someone builds fallacious false unequal and unfair parameters that one does not apply to all fighters then fails to morph his positions to fit the object of his hate when its pointed out that he does not apply the same standards to fighters he likes dude runs away.
te tumbo even tried to say “well they didnt try to avoid testing” that had to have been the lamest wriggling and writhing worm of a post i ever read. one could go on all day about what was wron with that post alone.
tumbo your double standard nuthuggery is old. take your nut huggin on son
te. tumbo the guy who brought you asterisks next to the name of the innocent and omitted from the guilty that he happens to like. theres an objective poster worth reading!
more like theres a subjective nut hugger worth skipn. u got a giant dump taken on your head a few pages down by multiple posters. then started acting like sredmond. bahahahahahaha talkn about ” why are you getting others involved i fight my own fights” BAHAHAHAHAHAHAPosted March 5, 2014 1:36 am
Bears is in duhnial and really doesn’t know sh@t.Posted March 5, 2014 1:12 am
how else was pac gonna fight them in a toughman contest? was it a unification fight? didnt think soPosted March 5, 2014 12:51 am
Cheatin Messycans De Messyhoe i forgive you…stupid is as stupid does.Posted March 4, 2014 11:26 pm
Also im with te tumbo, lara calling out mayweather and wanting the big names.as far as im concerned he needs to avenge his lose to molina first.Posted March 4, 2014 11:14 pm
here i come, my official pick is canelo.theres no shame in losing to the best boxer in the sport today.I beleive the cuts and bruises will play a role in this fight against angulo.Angulo is a great fighter and if he wins i would be happy to but i think hes taylor made for canelo.it wont be easy,but i believe his style wll mesh well with what canelo will have planned.i do want to point out one thing.if canelo loses this fight i sincerely beleive it will be his trainers and corners fault as i believe there a liability.a fighter with canelo skills an expereince trainer on a championship level ala nacho.Posted March 4, 2014 11:13 pm
i dontthink pacman fought for a certain weight divisions title then required an opponent to weigh in 2 pounds under the title they were fighting for. i also dont think he did it to someone who was unified champ in that weight division. 152 catch in a 154 unification match GARBAGE. floyd ruined that fight in my eyes. in his eyes he removed the risk from the fight. he also destroyed the quality if the fightPosted March 4, 2014 10:59 pm
so whos your pick boxtra between Angiulo and AlvarezPosted March 4, 2014 10:26 pm
agree with te tumbo. canelo looked like neo doin some matrix moves dodgin trouts punches.
i think canelo vs floyd was all about stamina and bs catchweight. canelo had a good showing in regards tothe bs catchweight.
i look for canelo to beat angulo. he will be moving. if he lets his hands go he will brutalize canelo in a bout if not stopped people will be asking for it to be as they watch. canelo wins regardless unless he is done with boxingPosted March 4, 2014 10:24 pm
Another SUCKER born in another minute. MY prediction was made long ago and it wasn’t on THIS thread. That is one of MY fanboys trying to BE like ME like kids try to be like Jordan. HE also tried to predict the Chavez-Vera Fight and failed MISERABLY. Trying to be the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born is more difficult than I make it LOOK…But I WELCOME MY many fans to KEEP trying!! The more guys trying to be like ME the BETTER!!!Posted March 4, 2014 10:21 pm
Boxra with another wild guess…, “Angulo KO’s Karrot TOP in shocking upset. I remain the greatest fight prophet EVER born.”
Right… Like you prophesized Chavez would blast out Vera.
Has Canelo or Angulo been stopped before? By whom? Who’s a better boxer, puncher, and defender Canelo or Kirkland? Who has the better chin Canelo or Angulo? Who was beaten by Cintron? Who boxed rings around Cintron?Posted March 4, 2014 9:51 pm
Gallinas de Puerco Chico
Cheatin Chihuahus- you sound like a 15 year old boy. STFUPosted March 4, 2014 9:40 pm
Gallinas de Puerco Chico
The almendra tequila will not give you hangovers. Its delicious.Posted March 4, 2014 9:28 pm
Gallinas de Puerco Chico
Try the almond “almendra” tequila. That stuff is dang good.Posted March 4, 2014 9:27 pm
“Mexicans sip. also, you won’t find any crappy “silver” in my liquor cabinet. that’s for spring-breakers. reposado and anejo only. Pueblo Viejo is my favorite but Cazadores remains the old stand-by.” – Tumbo, are those clear or dark tequilas? My thing is it’s gotta be clear otherwise you get a hangover. The dark ones have refined sugars in them which is a bad mix with high proof liquor, in terms of the morning after.Posted March 4, 2014 9:25 pm
Gallinas de Puerco Chico
So Trout is feather fisted now? Funny, he beat the stuffing out of Cotto and Trout couldnt do anything on Canelo. Guess thats why Cotto turned down that 10 mil to fight Canelo.Posted March 4, 2014 9:25 pm
Btw, based on Trout’s beatdown of Cotto, many were favoring him to defeat Canelo. he didn’t come close. also, Lara has unfinished business v. IBF champ Molina that he diligently reFuses to complete. IMO, Lara’s running scared. he didn’t have the “Pop” to keep Molina or Angulo off of him and has no intention of redeeming the questionable outcomes of those bouts. he’s no Chavez Jr.Posted March 4, 2014 9:18 pm
RAY, NObody is going to replicate Mayweather’s “blueprint” v. Canelo. whatever you think of Canelo’s ranking among the jr. middles he IS the biggest payday and an easy(?) and/or vulnerable one according to you. Btw, Canelo DOMinated Trout who may have won 2 or 3 rounds of that bout. otherwise, he was missing punches in bunches and didn’t land a single meaningful punch v. Canelo. this was the same Trout that beatdown Cotto like the neighborhood runt. Cotto hasn’t caught that serious an a$$-kicking since he took a knee v. Margarito.Posted March 4, 2014 9:16 pm
Messyhoe- I think Lara would give it 2 Canelo if he fought smart….The blue print has been layed out 4 every1 2 c how 2 beat Canelo.Posted March 4, 2014 9:07 pm
Messyhoe- the knock down was def the deciding factor….Alvarez hasn’t proved him self yet I don’t reckon…. He’s got talent and youth but hasn’t beatn any1 of note….Cotto might have b lined him anyways?Posted March 4, 2014 9:04 pm
No more easy fights from here on 4 Alvarez….oh hang on, Angulo 4 what title? Lara’s scraps….Lara v Canelo would b a good fight. I’m not convinced Alvarez is world class yet?Posted March 4, 2014 9:01 pm
Chillax I no who Canelo got a lesson off in his last fight….every fighter has an off day….Lara’s last fight or Canelos last fight? No brainer….Canelos next fight should b a nice easy tune up 4 him. Lara moves & has speed obviously Canelo has issues with this. Alvarez didn’t look that great in my opinion v Trout either. The good light middles & middle weights will b calling Alvarez out from here on in…..can’t wait 2 c how he go’sPosted March 4, 2014 8:57 pm
Lara couldn’t convincingly defeat Molina, Vanes, or Angulo who was poised to close strong if not for that hematoma that blew up on his eye. otherwise, why else do you think that Cotto punked-out of a guaranteed $10 million challenge and why Kirkland remains silent on the subject of Canelo? BOTH have declined direct and multiple challenges and targeted Martinez and Angulo rather than face Canelo. Btw, the name of that “smaller guy” is the undefeated and #1 P4P Floyd Mayweather. for a moment i thought you were referring to Josesito Lopez with that deceptive “smaller guy” crap.Posted March 4, 2014 8:48 pm
Tumbo- Canelo the best @ 154???? A smaller guy just took his title. Lara might beat him 2.Posted March 4, 2014 8:31 pm
Lol at MessyhoePosted March 4, 2014 8:17 pm
How come the Puerto Rican fighters don’t get such a huge promotion like the Angulo vs Canelo fight . Why is every one talking about this fight ..is it because Puerto Ricans are disgusting people and are always complaining ..or is it because the fighter’s that are Puerto Rican always quit when they start to get their butts whip ..Like Miguel Cotto and Ivan Calderon or their faces look like a monster after their butts get whip by a Mexican , like Edwin Rosario and Wilfredo Gomez .Posted March 4, 2014 8:15 pm
the image of Angulo being punched-out by Kirkland after dropping him in the first round convinces me that Canelo can crack that chin as well. there’s a very good reason that Cotto punked-out of Canelo’s $10 million challenge and forfeit the “rivalry”. Canelo’s the best at 154lbs and I anticipate he’ll be able to expose every opening Angulo provides for a TKO win.Posted March 4, 2014 8:13 pm
Khan is Korrect. Angulo KO’s Karrot TOP in shocking upset. I remain the greatest fight prophet EVER born!!!Posted March 4, 2014 7:51 pm
FA, the year i reached drinking age I was visiting famlia in Jalisco, MX and was surprised to discover that they weren’t beer drinkers(?). tequila, brandy, and mixes to make other drinks was their preference. i also have familia who live just a short drive from the town of Tequila. needless to say I got “babas” every night we went out but I didn’t carry the custom back with me to Cali. sipping tequila is fine but sipping a nice cold Model is better.Posted March 4, 2014 7:32 pm
Sipping tequila during this great fight……….. I thought Khan was a practicing Muslim?!Posted March 4, 2014 7:25 pm
“Few people ‘sip’ it anyhow they pound shots while doing drinking games”. Gringos pound. Mexicans sip. also, you won’t find any crappy “silver” in my liquor cabinet. that’s for spring-breakers. reposado and anejo only. Pueblo Viejo is my favorite but Cazadores remains the old stand-by.Posted March 4, 2014 7:23 pm
Martin interesting. I do sip tequila sometimes but only Patron. Problem is once my friends see me sipping it always turns into drinking games and we get smashed before the main event.Posted March 4, 2014 7:22 pm
stamina will be the primary factor for Canelo. IMO, he wants to be a boxer rather than a slugger. his domination of Trout worked against him v. Mayweather. poor Canelo deluded himself into thinking he could actually box v. Floyd, which was the worst fight-plan he could’ve adopted. however, a balanced boxing-slugging performance will prevail over Angulo if Canelo’s stamina holds-up for 12 rounds or Angulo is TKO’d before the final bell. it happened v. Kirkland. Canelo can produce the same result if he consistently places his shots on Angulo’s chin and jaw without running out of gas and becoming a stationary target himself. Angulo won’t be an easy “W” like Cotto or Rosado would’ve been but he’s definitely beatable by a fighter of Canelo’s presumed ability.Posted March 4, 2014 7:15 pm
“Why’d they show a Twitter post from a tequila company of all people? Few people ‘sip’ it anyhow they pound shots while doing drinking games.”
Tequila: Mexico’s favourite and most famous drink.
And Mexicans do sip tequila. I always used to watch the boxing while drinking tequila in DF (where I lived for several years), but never played drinking games. It’s especially good with a big bag of cacahuate japones. (Can’t wait to get back there next month: real Mexican food is the BEST!)Posted March 4, 2014 6:46 pm
Canelo doesnt have the stamita to keep up with Angulo. I predict that by the 8th rd Angulo will have him out of there.Posted March 4, 2014 6:01 pm
Why’d they show a Twitter post from a tequila company of all people? Few people ‘sip’ it anyhow they pound shots while doing drinking games. The game for this card is pound a shot everytime the tard announcers use the phrase “Toe to Toe.”Posted March 4, 2014 5:39 pm
Well, I still think that Saul Alvarez looks most like young Ronnie Howard.Posted March 4, 2014 4:33 pm
2 idiots hitting each other faces and people pay for it – very STUPID – we have millions kids who is starving now – better spend money on it.
Posted March 4, 2014 4:22 pm
This is a boxing site not a singles date site for fat women.Posted March 4, 2014 4:27 pm
2 idiots hitting each other faces and people pay for it – very STUPID – we have millions kids who is starving now – better spend money on it.Posted March 4, 2014 4:22 pm
should be a great fight and i think will get alot of questions answered from canelo.i really like him but im really not a fan of his corner.the gameplan for the mayweather fight was horrible and the inability to adapt during the fight was awfull.i beleive in the kid just not his corner,i would do alot better with nacho.Posted March 4, 2014 4:12 pm
Canelo will win this fight angulo take to many hits and Canelo has a good left hook to the body I pick CaneloPosted March 4, 2014 4:10 pm
Angulo will be the biggest fighter Canelo has fought. He’s got the best beard of all Canelos’ wins. He’s the strongest fighter by a wide margin.
Can Alverez step up his inside game and hurt Angulo to the body???? Can he potshot from outside and swell him up??? If the answer is NO to both these questions, we SHOULD expect the upset.
Canelo is no Kirkland in the power and heart dept. Although, he obviously has a better chin. Gonna be a good fight IMO…..but Im leaning towards Angulo. He’s just too solid for what Alvarez has faced thusfar.Posted March 4, 2014 3:50 pm
Hes no hype.Hes a good fighter, just very young with room to grow i think.if he can survive angulo it will be another great expereince for him.Remember, he was setup to fight kirkland and he pulled out, he was setup to fight paul williams and we know what happen there.canelo for his part has been lining up good fight so i for one am excited to see if he can beat angulo who im sure will test him.Posted March 4, 2014 3:31 pm
Anonymous sux.Posted March 4, 2014 3:16 pm
Angulo’s mother also thinks he’s going to win. You don’t ask a stablemate whether he thinks a guy will win. Nobody is going against their stablemate.
Ask Robert Garcia or Joel Diaz. They’ll have a legitimate view.
What you’re doing is like asking Khan if he can beat Broner. You already know the answer. He doesn’t think he can beat Kell Brook or he would sign for the fight tomorrow — but he will tell you he can beat him anyway.Posted March 4, 2014 3:06 pm
after the hype jobs last exercise cant believe people are still gonna pay money to watch this fight.Posted March 4, 2014 2:58 pm
Angulo by KO.Posted March 4, 2014 2:52 pm
What do you think Khan is suppose to say. Angulo has no chance. No way this should be a PPV fight. Canelo shines and brutally dismantles Angulo as long as the fight lasts. Similar to Manny Pacquiao vs Margarito or Larry Holmes vs Randall “Tex” Cobb. Keep the women and children away from the tv if you decide to pay money for this fight.Posted March 4, 2014 2:47 pm
saul alvarez the justin bieber of boxingPosted March 4, 2014 2:44 pm
angulo is a human trafficker. you can look into his eyes and see a damaged eye. the ref/dr stops the fight after it shuts. easy money gingerbread man by tkoPosted March 4, 2014 2:38 pm