LMAO RJ beat Hopkins and Toney in their primes, Oscar faced the most important fighters of his era, and Lennox beat every man he faced, even the current HW champ! Floyd is great, but no comparisons to the REAL greats, please. He should of dispatched Margo, Cotto, Manny, and Sergio long ago. Wants cred without actually earning it. He needs to prove it instead of just flaunting it.Posted November 9, 2013 8:31 pm
The writer brings it all home when he says that every great fighter has holes in his resume, and Mayweather is no exception. BUT, when we list the criteria for a boxing great, Mayweather meets and in many cases exceeds it. He’s probably the greatest defensive AND offensive fighter of all time. By that I mean, the data over 46 fights says that he does both extremely well. Ranking defense and offense separately, he’s top 5 and top 10 respectively. Bottom line is that critics can hate, but when you get down to the statistics, he’s #1 or ranks very high in every boxing category—connect %age, opponents connect %age, wins, losses, KO %age, rounds won, rounds lost, etc. Number never lie…Posted October 30, 2013 10:16 pm
Greatness??????? hahahahahaha. Chicken chit every day.Posted October 29, 2013 4:27 pm
@Hecdog, “The Great MANNY PACQUIAO”?! Manny made his name mostly by beating Floyd’s leftovers, and he made Cotto and DLH come down in weight, while Floyd went up in weight when he fought them. And mentioned Ward and GGG. REALLY? ?Ward is a SMW!!! How would a catchweight work when the guy outweighs you by at least 3 DIVISIONS!!! 4 if you count that Mayweather is a natural welterweight, who always weighed under 154 when he fought DLH and Cotto. GGG isn’t even known by casual boxing fans. Broner, wait for it. Mayweather has 4 more fights in his contract. Even though they are friends and say they will never fight each other, money can make that fight happen, and Adrien should be ready by the time Floyd fights his next to last or last fight.
P.S. Let’s remember PUNKQUIAO is younger THAN FLOYD!!!Posted October 21, 2013 3:59 pm
Danny Garcia deserves the next Floyd shot. Undefeated, untied, unified.
Talk of Amir Khan is laughable in the face of his showing v Danny.Posted October 21, 2013 1:53 pm
Ramar of the jungle
Muma Jahoopa, Ruma jahoopa.Posted October 21, 2013 11:42 am
Of course Mayweather “does not have Wars”
Do you really think stealing my screen name and saying “Floyd Mayweathers a dirty fighter” makes such nonsense remotely valid? Truth is Mayweather is going to be remembered as a PIONEER in boxing and a CHAMPION of clean sport!! I have him grief when he wanted enhanced testing but look at what has happened…. Manny Pacquiao suddenly saw the merits of testing when he was on the BAD end of a KO….I never thought PAC was dirty but his mindset sure did shift, we have now seen more and more fights that have undergone VADA and WADA testing..MUCH of this can be attributed to Floyd who is the FIRST pro boxer to demand and force random testing during the lead up to his bouts…Again his legacy will be that he is an unquestioned CLEAN fighter in spite of a the VAIN efforts of a few pissed of Internet posters who cannot act like adults and argue the merits of a guys career and achievements…Posted October 21, 2013 8:13 am
A prime Pacquaio got put to sleep by his 60 year old grandpa in Marques.Posted October 21, 2013 2:00 am
Mayweather doesn’t have any wars to remember. Doesn’t have a rival of any kind. He talks as if he is a knock out artist which he is not. He’s a great defensive boxer. Greatest of all time? He has great skill no doubt about it, but he falls short in warriors spirit. He is well below the Gatti’s of the world. He is the lesser Mayweather below Roger and Floyd Sr. They were not afraid of taking an ass whooping. He got their skills but not their heart. He will be remembered with the “He was great, BUT” title.Posted October 20, 2013 11:18 pm
Is the coward(Floyd) ready to fight the PacMan? It’s been over 5 years now, or will he wait until next life? Still no confidence?Posted October 20, 2013 10:37 pm
Is Victor Conte associated with VADA? … If so it’s a giant scamPosted October 20, 2013 7:44 pm
Gabriel Montoya and Thomas Hauser did the article called The Ped Mess. Floyd is a cheat as well as all these other guys. CHEATERS!!Posted October 20, 2013 6:46 pm
Floyd and have group have a monoply on a lot of thing. I read the Thomas hauser article about Floyd’s failed tests and the cover up. What a joke! These guys are all cheaters. The NSAC sure doesn’t care as long as money keep coming into their pockets. Good post SREDMOND.Posted October 20, 2013 6:40 pm
Floyd Mayweather has had three positive test covered up
Andre Ward has refused at least three times to undergo VADA testing by his opponents now even though he has claimed he’s all for it. Edwin Rodriguez’s sponsors were willing to foot the cost of both his and Rodriguez’s tests for his upcoming fight but he still declined.
In August of this year, Rodriguez signed with manager Al Haymon. At least three of Haymon’s fghters (Andre Berto, Antonio Tarver, and J’Leon Love) have tested positive for PEDs in the past.
Another Haymon fighter (Peter Quillin) was enrolled in a USADA testing program prior to his June 2, 2012, fight against Winky Wright. Then, after blood and urine samples were taken from both fighters, Wright was told that the testing had been abandoned and the samples were destroyed.
Haymon also represents Adrien Broner.
Broner, Antonio DeMarco, Golden Boy (Broner’s promoter), and the United States Anti-Doping Agency signed a contract for USADA testing prior to the November 17, 2012, Broner-DeMarco fight. But according to DeMarco, he wasn’t tested by USADA for that bout, nor was Broner.
Then, on June 22, 2013, Broner fought Paulie Malignaggi.
“I wanted VADA testing,” Malignaggi recalls. “And I was told, ‘No, we won’t do VADA. If you insist on VADA, there won’t be a fight.’ Finally, I said, ‘F— it. I’m getting seven figures. I’ll go ahead and fight.’ Would I have been more confident that Broner was clean if there had been VADA testing? Absolutely.”
Haymon’s flagship fighter, of course, is Floyd Mayweather.
On June 24, 2013, at a media sitdown before the kick-off press conference for Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez, Leonard Ellerbe (CEO of Mayweather Promotions) told reporters, “We’ve put in place a mechanism where all Mayweather Promotions fighters will do mandatory blood and urine testing 365-24-7 by USADA.”
USADA declined a request from this writer for comment on the truth of Ellerbe’s contention. Al Haymon also declined comment for this article. And questions remain regarding the issue of whether or not, several years ago, Mayweather “A” samples tested positive on three occasions.
Referencing that issue, Dan Rafael of ESPN stated during a November 21, 2012, online chat, “I need to see proof before I accuse somebody of something so serious. What is fact, however, is that the settlement in the Pacquiao-Mayweather lawsuit happened after the Pacquiao camp tried to get Mayweather’s USADA testing records. So maybe where there is smoke there is fire.”
So here’s a suggestion. Why doesn’t Floyd Mayweather enroll in VADA’s 24-7-365 program? And let him state publicly, “Any fighter who wants to be eligible to fight me must enroll in VADA’s 24-7-365 program NOW.”
And let’s take it a step further. In addition to Mayweather, Broner, Quillin, Berto, and Love, Al Haymon currently represents Danny Garcia, Devon Alexander, Lucas Matthysse, Marcos Maidana, Leo Santa Cruz, Keith Thurman, Austin Trout, Omar Figueroa, Gary Russell Jr, Sakio Bika, Josesito Lopez, Erislandy Lara, Shawn Porter, Errol Spence, Chris Arreola, Seth Mitchell, and Deontay Wilder.
Let’s assume that all of these fighters are clean. Let them all enter a 24-7-365 VADA testing program. I can’t speak for anyone else. But that would certainly make a believer out of me.
Al and Floyd have enough money to fund it.
It’s easy to talk the talk. Let’s see who walks the walk.Posted October 20, 2013 3:53 pm
SREDMOND – Mayweather’s little biatch.Posted October 20, 2013 11:56 am
Personally I encourage Mayweathers detractors to “keep moving the goal posts” it ONLY confirms his greatness to be honest.. Floyd’s being treated like Wilt Chamberlin back in the day ie “let’s widen the lane” I have heard posters decree “the shoulder roll should be outlawed” or “he should fight in a smaller ring”…. This is ALL music to the ears of Mayweather fans as we watch you MAGGOTS writhe in pain waiting for a boxer in his late 30’s to book his first loss…A Mayweather loss at this age will NEVER hold the meaning that those of other Great fighters who succumbed or were figured out in their prime… The Floyd that fought Gatti was too fast of hand and foot as well as accurate to be bested by anyone… The current version does not have the same quickness but his boxing mind keeps him a step ahead….We have heard the names before “Kosta Tszyu” “Cotto” “Canelo” “Margo” but all these fighters were deposed of either by Floyd or fighters he made EASY work of… Kosta Tszyu was made to QUIT by Hatton!! He would have been another hapless slugger in the ring with Mayweather… The new hope is this overhyped plodding MW with a joke resume GGG he’s NOT the answer anymore than Ward or Froch are because these are not viable fights that will ever happen…Manny Pacquiao is a fight that will go down as one of the big debacles of the 21st Century but even his viability as an FMJ opponent was dialed down when Marquez went ape “shiiiiiittt” on him… We are witnessing one of the Great careers in boxing and with each victory he’s living some other legends in the dust..Posted October 20, 2013 10:16 am
I was one who initially thought floyd was cherry-picking and would one day meet his match if he came up against a top fighter. However, it is clear that floyd is an atg that would have beaten virtually anyone from any era with ease from LWW up to LMW. Yes he did skip around the weight divisions refusing to unify and fighting older guys but there is boxing poilitics involved here and it isnt just as simple as making any fight happen. IMO he would have been beaten by Hearns and Leonard but would have won by UD against the vast majority of the rest. However, the one point I must make is that he should not have an ‘0’ on his record. There is no way he should have won the first fight v castillo.Posted October 20, 2013 8:13 am
dont compare hopkins with fighters.Posted October 20, 2013 5:44 am
Choky this is what Manny put on too that I agree with. Both you and him I agree completely.
Manny – The Provodnikov – Alvardo and watched the Gatti – Ward on HBO afterwards is what real fights are. People remember fighters for that one or two or maybe three great fights. Like Hagler – Hearns or Barrara – Morales and this fight tonight with Provo. What I don’t get is a fighter over and over on the Net named Bernard Hopkins keeps saying what a legend and how great he is. He doesn’t come close to have any great fights. He clinchs and hugs and jabs and holds. Now making of himself as ” the alien “. I don’t care how long a fighter fights to in years or his defenses. Is he exciting to watch is all I care. Hopkins, Ward an Clinch Ko will never be remembered never !Posted October 20, 2013 4:37 am
i have never been tempted to Watch again one of mayweather fights as none of them are memorable – how can u be one the greatest when u bore a lot of boxing fans – mayweather is one of the greatest defensive fighters i have ever seen but thats not enough for me to be one of the greatests plus his legacy will always be hurt by the fact that he did not fight a prime pacquiao because even if he obvioulys could have won he knew that a prime pacquiao was the only one who could beat hm and he decided not to take the risk – i dont care about teh polticis – duran – hagler – hearns leonard would have fought a prime pacquiao because those guys wdre never afraid by the risk of loosing – if mayweather wants to be great then indeed let him take a fight where he would not be a clear favourite like agnst martinez or ggg – ibut he will obvioultys never do that – as for canelo as i had said before teh fight thos was a joke as everytrue boxing fan knew that canelo was overhyped and that he had never truly beaten anybody before fighting mayweather – i even personally thought that he had lost agnst trout – dont take me wrong i was impressed by mayweather skills and performance but if he defintely hurt his megacy by not fighting a prime pacquiao and only way he will be considered as a true atg will be by taking a real risk such as fighting for middlewight titlePosted October 20, 2013 4:13 am
” Slow and lumbering ” not sure who you are watching Old Coot, but it certainly isn’t GGG. He will slaughter Mayweather, money in the bank.Posted October 20, 2013 3:52 am
@ big mike: LOL!! Oh give the OSDT dodge a rest… Floyd voided that by calling Manny a quote- “washed up, has-been”… Besides by now everyone knows you clowns found a convenient way to help Floyd duck Manny by harping on Manny’s superstitions about needles, that you all knew was only brought on by what occurred with blood tests and needles prior to the Morales VS Pacquiao II, fight that Manny blamed for loss and became wary of needles then… Because the record proves from their first fight that Manny won, that Manny had NO problem with needles. And only did after the second training camp testing debacle. And when Floyd heard about that he knew Manny would never agree to Floyd’s tests under those circumstances. So Floyd exploited it to kill the fight with unconventional demands, that Floyd had never wanted before Pacquiao came along…
Well Pacquiao has not only gotten over that fear of needles now, but the KO by Marquez pretty much proves he’s not on anything… So it’s high time for Floyd to cut the bush league, smokescreen of convenient excuses, and prove Manny is the “washed up, has-been” Floyd claims he is. Besides, a “washed up, has been” that’s been KO’d doesn’t need special drug testing against an undefeated, defensive GOAT like Floyd! Ya know?Posted October 20, 2013 3:26 am
@ big mike: You clowns found a convenient way to help Floyd duck Manny by harping on the Manny’s superstitions about needles, because you knew he’d never agree to Floyd’s tests… Well he got over that fear and is not afraid of needles now, plus the KO by Marquez pretty much proves he’s not on anything… So time for Floyd to cut the bush league, smokescreen of convenient excuses, and prove Manny is the “washed up, has-been” Floyd claims. Besides, a “has been” that’s been KO’d doesn’t need special drug testing against the defensive GOAT!Posted October 20, 2013 3:14 am
I found a te Tumbo in TARKs diaper …Posted October 20, 2013 12:05 am
I’m done with Tark. I tore up the carpet, changed the bed sheets. What a mess. Tark you idiot you weren’t suppose to eat a big meal before the performance. That’s why we put everyone on a jello diet.Posted October 19, 2013 11:11 pm
This changes everything. I was only after Tark’s love meat, but had no idea i may be exposing myself to his waste products. O no! I don’t think I want to get involved in that kind of thing. Straight sxx is what i am after. All that kinky stuff involving PVC sheets is not really my bag. Perhaps Tark made a mistake or got extra nervous? Mork is a massive man and may have been too big to take.
Tark you made a mess a my pad. Stinks like crap.Posted October 19, 2013 11:04 pm
Pac has a name missing on his resume as well. Yet he’s considered great even though he was afraid of needles but now he isn’t. GGG is great although he’s fought noone. Klitchko great, fought noone, Hatton made Tszu quit on his stool and got KOed by Floyd , Floyd has beaten over 20 champions and many were undefeated and some outweighed him. He’s won titles in five different weight classes. Many of the so called greats had a far less flattering resume. Even the great Sugar Ray Robinson fought a lot of bums. You can’t respect the sport and say this man hasn’t proven himself. Haters are the proof. No accomplished person lacks haters.Posted October 19, 2013 11:03 pm
Tark how was Mork ?Posted October 19, 2013 10:59 pm
white is right
self hating irish writer. this homo is so overrated and overpaid its sick. victim, my ass.Posted October 19, 2013 10:57 pm
Hi guysPosted October 19, 2013 10:56 pm
yall just sik to see a nig flashing the green baby.
We got the edukation now, we takin over the show.Posted October 19, 2013 10:45 pm
Hmmmmm Pratt…you sound angry and frustrated.
Come see me and I`ll give you some sweet release baby.Posted October 19, 2013 10:35 pm
@ Hecdog: Hear, HEAR!!… You got that right… And let’s not forget, Floyd also ducked prime, undefeated versions of Cotto, Williams and (pre-cheat) Margarito too. And I think, that while say Bradley or Broner would give Floyd good fights, and might even surprise some people, even Floyd at least is worried that Pacquiao would straight-up whoop his ass!… However, I actually think Floyd would be willing to fight and would use his footwork to simply out-point 3G, because although he seems to big and powerful for Floyd, like Alvarez, 3G is simply too lumbering to get to Floyd, and is Taylor-made for his foot and hand speed.Posted October 19, 2013 10:27 pm
big mike: Dude… I am EONS away from ‘right-wing’… And I think Barack Obama is the real deal, perhaps our best president to date!… I just think Floyd is more of a real deal conman than a great fighter!Posted October 19, 2013 10:17 pm
@E-LaRock — Great fighters don’t pummel each other. They pummel others. They don’t get pummelled. The reason Cheato and Williams got smashed by old men was they weren’t great in the first place.Posted October 19, 2013 10:07 pm
It doesn’t matter what color you are does it? Lomachenko is white. He’s one of the best amateurs ever and should be a damned good pro.Posted October 19, 2013 10:01 pm
Floyd’s fans are the ones moving the goal posts. They keep moving it closer. You used to have to fight the best fighters when they were at their best. Floyd gets to be “great” by avoiding the best and fighting big names only when they’re past their prime. He gets to retire when the welterweight division is the most competitive in boxing, and conveniently un-retire when the welterweights are done pummeling each other.Posted October 19, 2013 9:56 pm
I’ll say one thing for Floyd… He understands what PT Barnum did about human nature… “There’s a sucker born every minute” And Mayweather is a master at staying undefeated and getting filthy rich selling the hype from always picking good, popular opponents, with the perfect style to beat. Namely, legs and feet of snails.
All except for Cotto, who’s hand and foot-speed and pursuit ability actually surprised Floyd, and was a bit too close for his comfort… So of course you see what he did, He went right back to picking opponents who’s agility he could outclass… Namely Guerrero and Alvarez. Both of whom he knew could not get to him… And defeating Alvarez in particular, due to his young hungry heart, and hardiness, his hand-speed, and KO and star power, only made Mayweather seem even more invincible.
Ah, but you see the conman won’t fight Pacquiao… The supposedly “washed up, has-been” who I know has all the tools Cotto scared Floyd with, and THEN some!
And before anyone brings up the fact that Mayweather easily beat Marquez who KO’d Pacquiao, I say, for like the thousandth time!! Pacquiao fighting Marquez and fighting Mayweather would be apples and oranges!!… Why?
Because to repeat also, that Mayweather does not have the workrate nor punching power, or even the defense as great as it is, to either respond in kind to, nor withstand the aggressive firestorm that Pacquiao will unleash, particularly at Floyd. Probably, literally the ONLY person on Earth, that the exceedingly nice Pacquiao actually HATES!Posted October 19, 2013 8:39 pm
Hecdog…Put the bottle down your killing youself man!!!!!Posted October 19, 2013 7:32 pm
Floyd Mayweather has been discussed way too much. He’s a good athlete that uses his speed and is a safety first fighter that only becomes agressive when he fights inexperienced, media built fighters or small old fighter that were once very good. Floyd ducked the great Manny Pacquiao, Kostyzu, Oscar in his prime as well as Mosely in his prime. He is top 50 as far as ATG fighters are concerned. He never went out on a limb and challenged the best of his time while they were in their prime. Floyd seems to think he can beat everyone, so why not challenge, Ward, GGG, or Broner. He can set up a catch weight any time, but let’s see him take on a real challenge at the higher weight division. He says weight is not the issue, so okay, take these guys on. IMO, Floyd losses to all three. Broner beats him hands down. Trust me. GGG knocks him out and Ward knocks him out. Floyd won’t dare fight these guys because he knows he can’t win. He’ll pick on one dimensional, less talented fighters like Garcia, Martinez, Mathhysse, Khan, and the rest of those guys. Yes he makes a ton of money, but he will always be the one guy that ran from Manny Pacquiao as well as the rest of the real challenges he had. Too bad because he may have been able to beat those guys, but we’ll never know.Posted October 19, 2013 7:16 pm
At this point there should be no critics he shut down everyone, Floyd is the best hands down and he has proven that time and time again.Posted October 19, 2013 6:35 pm
And the year after.Posted October 19, 2013 6:32 pm
dont worry tark those big pricks the klit bro”s will be back next year.Posted October 19, 2013 6:23 pm
Shut your crap trap mouth Idiot Ernie.., And die while you’re at it.Posted October 19, 2013 6:19 pm
Fake TARK Ernie.., Doing his multi-fake TARK posts again.Posted October 19, 2013 5:30 pm
Shut up idiot Ernie.
There’s 5 people I respect and you ain’t one of them.
1. Jimmy Savile (RIP fallen soldier)
Nobody’s moved the goal posts for Floyd. The criteria for greatness has always been to face and beat the best in your divison. Beat your key rivals and the public embraces you. Even if you don’t beat them all they still embrace you, like Leonard, Hearns and Hagler. Floyd ducking Tszyu at 140, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Pacquiao and Williams at 147 diminished any claim Floyd had at greatness.Posted October 19, 2013 4:52 pm
BTW…, This pundit implied that Lennox Lewis ducked Tyson, Holyfield, and Bowe..
Tyson and Holyfield ducked Lewis for as long as they possibly could… The cowardly Bowe was scared to death of Lewis and flat out refused to fight him.Posted October 19, 2013 4:16 pm
Put him in with Golovkin, cluck cluck is that chicken Floyd I hear.
sweet_scientist…, “Roy Jones DID DUCK Michaelczewski”
NO he didn’t… Michaelczewski beat nobody but Virgil Hill.. Jones took Hill out in a couple rounds and with one punch.. Michaelczewski lost to Julio Gonzalez in Germany.. Roy beat the super slow Gonzalez like he was his daddy.. The main reason Dariusz ducked Roy was he would have suffered a terrible beating.
Michaelczewski ducked Jones… Tarver… Hopkins… Toney… Jirov… Woods… and every other opponent who meant a damned thing… DM beat some washed up opponents who were done … and that’s it.
DM wanted to hide in Germany… He never wanted to fight the best…
The guy everybody knows Roy ducked is Antonio Tarver… “You gonna have any excuses tonight Roy???”Posted October 19, 2013 4:12 pm
roy jones on drugs, well i never.Posted October 19, 2013 4:10 pm
Bobby the boxer
Oh and yes Benn vs Jones should have happened tooPosted October 19, 2013 4:09 pm
Bobby the boxer
Tark rants and raves about racial discrimination and a lack of superior objectivity among boxing judges but in the same hour he himself insists that Gonzalez must have always been better than Michalczewski had been calling out Jones many years earlier. The fact is, Michalczewski called out Jones for almost a decade and all the fan polls on HBO were calling for the fight and to the point where Jones made vain legal attempt to ban Michalczewski’s name.
In that case, Tark must finally retract all his bitter rants about Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Archies Moore and Walcott being better than Marciano.Posted October 19, 2013 4:09 pm
Roy Jones DID DUCK Michaelczewski, when a lot of FIGHT fans were calling for that fight, Roy also DUCKED Nigel Benn!Posted October 19, 2013 3:36 pm
Sugar Ray ALSO DID fight for the money!! And DUCKED Aaron Pryor and Iran Barkley!!Posted October 19, 2013 3:26 pm
If you really examine SRL’s record you’ll see it was a FARCE!! Never gave Benitez OR Hagler a rematch, got a GIFT DRAW in the Hearns rematch, fought a BOGUS 168lb/175lb dual championship fight against 175lb champion Donny Lelond draining him down to 168lbs, lost to a glass chinned Terry Norris and a crack addicted Hector Camacho by TKO!!Posted October 19, 2013 3:25 pm
Floyd is been judged because opponents lack the fundamentals to beat him. he is a victim, because he is a master of his craft! Folks, if its so easy you step in the ring then, instead of been keyboard warriors & know it alls.Posted October 19, 2013 3:11 pm
@ Danny, agree Mayweather* is a con artist and his fans are either fools who buy into it or are con artists themselves…some of them write articles or comment on this website…Posted October 19, 2013 3:08 pm
@EZ E…good post, I agree. I enjoy many aspects of the sport myself, don’t get me wrong. Most of us that go to online boxing sites I would consider hardcore fans, but we are in the minority. I too have a bit of a boxing archive and I rewatch fights many times but I cant remember the last time I rewatched a Mayweather fight. I’d take a guess that the only Mayweather fight I have ever rewatched was Mayweather / Castillo I. My father used to do the introductions for local fights in the Victoria B.C. area. He told me how after the nights fights were over he’d go down to the promotor of the event to get his pay. Along the way are all the boxers that fought that night. By this time the bumps and bruises had time to ripen and he had a hard time telling the difference between the winners and the losers. Believe me, I don’t want to see anyone permanently injured however, if promotors of a big event are going to charge close to a days wage for a PPV I gotta say my expectations for a good contest go up…way up. p.s. I really miss 15rd title fights for the potential ebb and flow drama that they would produce.Posted October 19, 2013 2:57 pm
i may have been critical of floyd, and harshly so..mostly for avoiding certain fighters (the clan chose less risk higher reward)…and for his stupid stuttering of dumbness when he spoke, showing no class…..NOW…i see floyd is maturing, speaking with more class, reserved and saying nice things about opponets, etc…and continuing to dominate opponents…FLOYD is an all time great, in spite of not facing the caliber sometimes of the sugar ray leonard mode, who had more guts and cared less about money but made the many millions as well…if floyd was more about legacy than money he would have made it easier on himself…but in this generation, today….there are no peers when it comes to skills…..floyd is an all time great, period.Posted October 19, 2013 2:50 pm
i may have beenPosted October 19, 2013 2:48 pm
ten fights in seven years, man thats going some.Posted October 19, 2013 2:32 pm
best quote of the month, i would say best quote of the year.Posted October 19, 2013 2:26 pm
PRAG I come from a ‘fight family’ and been in this game practically all my life (I’m over 60yrs old) I enjoy the sweet science of the game, slick boxers.. Not all are gifted with punching power or great chins nor super macho egos all that goes with exciting fight that have marked the hearts and minds of both, hard core and casual fight fans. Truly great/great fighters. BUT.. I’ll have to admit the recent BIGGEST & EXPENSIVE PPV MEGA events have been emotional flops! Does anybody actually dig into their fight vaults to pull out, play and “enjoy” Floyd vs Oscar? Floyd vs Hatton? Bhops vs ANYBODY?? Oscar vs Trinidad? Floyd vs Zab? Roy Jones vs ANYBODY?? Will they anxiously want to see Floyd vs Canelo once mo’ time? Canelo vs Mosley?? Floyd vs Mosley? Pac vs Mosley? Bradley vs Marquez? I have literally hundreds of Bhops, Floyd, Jones Jr., “Hit and Hold” Hatton, late career Camacho…. fights collecting dust. Again, I am a lover & appreciator of the game, the WHOLE game, but many of these events are hardly PPV worthy, regular cable at most. Peace to all!Posted October 19, 2013 1:10 pm
This is a champion that fights twice or less per year. Mayweather has fought only 10 times in the last 7 years. This means he’s fought an average of 1.42 fights per year over that period of time. If nothing else, this should always be remembered and mentioned when discussing Floyd’s “greatness”–or any champion’s record, resume and legacy. He doesn’t fight that much. So his chances of getting hurt, or becoming “shopworn” or losing are greatly reduced.
Floyd is a luxury boxer. If the guy was having hard wars and needed time to mend his injuries and body, that would be understandable. But more often than not he comes away from his fights with barely a mark on him. Because of this he could easily fight at least three or four times a year but he does not. And the reason he doesn’t is that he couldn’t take it.
Nor does he need to. Floyd’s got the world believing he’s the GOAT just like Coke has everyone believing “it’s the real thing.” Thing is, Floyd doesn’t fight enough to be the GOAT boxer. But he should get the award for GOAT overpaid athlete.
There you go. I am awaiting incoming fire.Posted October 19, 2013 1:03 pm
@ashe…and when I’m old and alone eating cat food cuz my pension has been stolen by corrupt politicians will Mayweather be stopping by with stacks of cash to help me out? No cuz he’s not responsible for me and vice versa. You make your own way in the world and I think corrupt officials / promoters do more harm to fighters health than any fan ever has. Boxing exploits the beast within us all to some degree. Look at all the hype before a big fight. People get excited, and most of them aren’t saying ” can’t wait to see another awesome display of ring generalship”… they’re saying stuff like ” oooo! he’s gonna get his head caved in!” and other such stuff. Blood sport / blood lust. It’s in boxings nature.Posted October 19, 2013 1:02 pm
@ash… Yes we all know the sob stories of boxing. Ali claims he wouldn’t change a thing. Mayweather seems to have a lot of sound investments and it looks as though he will be fine financially long after his fighting years have passed but Mayweather’s safety first approach to every fight, no matter how far he outclasses his competition hinders his acceptance among most shall we say casual fans. Most folks that watch boxing want to see a fight, a contest between to equally matched opponents. I don’t want to see RJJ fight the local tough guy contest winner and play with him for 12 rds. It’s just not inspiring. Mayweather has legions of fans and haters alike but a lot of his fans are of the “cork sniffing” variety, you know the type that oohs and aahs over how well he set this trap or that but the average boxing watcher doesn’t really care or maybe doesn’t really even see these things. Gatti and Ward type fights will always garner more attention. Mayweather’s legacy will be discussed only by those more in “the know”Posted October 19, 2013 12:38 pm
Quote of the month right there;
“YEARS AGO WE HAD LEGENDS, NOW WE HAVE HYPE PEDS AND PRIMA DONNAS.”
Pretty good. I kind’a agree. No, it’s not in all cases but… close enough.Posted October 19, 2013 12:28 pm
@Pragmatic…the thing is when these “exciting” fighters like Prov,Alvarado,Pac etc who fight in bloodbaths get speeches impaired or get some Parkinsons like an OTG whom you know,where will you be??their familys will taking care of these guys and you as a fan you would have long ago forgot about the fighter because it doesn’t affect you.You will be well off with your family enjoying your lives while these guys will be suffering because of the results of bloodbaths they went through.My point is that Floyd practises the basics of boxing of “hit and don’t get hit” so to see him at this age so dominante of young lions like Alvarez is testament to his general craftsmanship and poise…I love all his fights because he make world class opponents look odinary.Posted October 19, 2013 12:00 pm
King of the Cherrypicks
I’m not a Pactard you gormless buffoon. You are patently a stupid dumb Flomo whose mancrush on Floyd is so potent it completely blinds you to reality. I doubt you have more than a handful of brain cells in that head of yours.
Pacquiao’s still sleeping? How original. Honestly you guys are so dumb.
You got any more Flomo cliches for me in your sack you low IQ buffoon?
Floyd is the ONLY fighter on the planet who refused to fight Pacquiao unless he underwent extra testing. Do you understand? No one else did that expect Floyd the self-proclaimed greatest of all times. Hein his own words was ”’too worried about his health”.
Name me one other fighter who was ”too worried about their health” to fight Pacquiao?
Name me one great fighter in their prime Floyd fought, never mind beat?
I’ll wait. I’ll check in later to read your spin and low IQ Flomo spin.Posted October 19, 2013 11:53 am
The fact is that Mayweather hasn’t had any fights that capture most boxing fans imagination. Almost all of his fights have been long drawn out uds. Fans rarely reminisce about tactical battles. They want to see a slugfest with someone getting ko’d. When Mayweather finally leaves the sport he will slip into obscurity relatively quickly. We will be talking about Forman / Lyle type battles long after the last word is spoken about how Mayweather dominated Baldomir et al.Posted October 19, 2013 11:50 am
True that @PEEJPosted October 19, 2013 11:50 am
Danny ” the cameraman “
Nobody out there is saying anybody ducked Floyd. Nobody would pass up that payday, well except for Pac. And the reason for that is Bob ArumPosted October 19, 2013 11:48 am
I don’t like to insult people but you gonna get what you give from me..you just a RETARD who listens to every lie that comes from uncle Bob.Truth hurts hey boom!!Posted October 19, 2013 11:48 am
Why did Pac claim Marquez was on something? Why is Pac requiring Rios to take random testing? So saying Floyd demanded the test means nothing now because Pac is now requiring also. Which means his past excesses for not accepting the random test are just that, excuses. And he past up his biggest payday ever. RidiculousPosted October 19, 2013 11:46 am
Hey Danny, the cameraman.
Danny ” the cameraman “
King of the Cherrypicks
Flomos: ”Everybody wants to be a part of the Floyd sweepstakes”
Flomos: ”Everyone ducked Floyd”Posted October 19, 2013 11:44 am
Because Manny has been fighting people who have extremly come down in weight so that he could take advantage of that.If he Pac was so great why didn’t he agree to those conditions?? You have just shown you are a Pactard who’s Idol is still sleeping.Floyd is 36 and still in his prime,Pac is 35 and he is washed up so do the math @Cherry “Pactard” PickerPosted October 19, 2013 11:43 am
King of the Cherrypicks
Glass houses? You believe everything that comes out of that proven liar’s mouth you gormless buffoon. Floyd say jump, you say how high.Posted October 19, 2013 11:41 am
King of the Cherrypicks
Flomos are the most ridiculous and pathetic group of ‘fans’ in the sport. They literally have an excuse for him ducking and avoiding all of those fighters. Funny how all those other fighters didn’t have a problem fighting each other. Funny how all these great fighters they rate him above didn’t have a problem fighting AND beating great fighters in their prime. Floyd is the only fighter on the planet who refused to fight Pacquiao unless he underwent extra testing. The ONLY one. No one else put those obstacles in the way except Floyd and yet his stupid gormless fans will try and shift the blame onto Pacquiao for the fight not happening. They’ll also try and shift the blame onto the welterweights Floyd wanted nothing to do with. He conveniently lost his urge and sat on the sidelines while they pounded the threat out of each other.Posted October 19, 2013 11:38 am
Lol you are the King of cherry picking memory…they wanted none of Floyd at that time and you are making excuses for the Hall of Famers now…Don’t throws stones if you live in a glassed house HATER!!Posted October 19, 2013 11:37 am
give us a clue
Has the beat. Spot on!Posted October 19, 2013 11:36 am
Bobby da boxer
Peej, USADA is responsible for implementation of WADA (World Anti-Doping Code) in the United States but they aint done a good job and of course a Filipino wouldnt want a paid off underling like USADA over WADA ?Posted October 19, 2013 11:34 am
I don’t practically care what you haters say about this master craftsman because he is the best.I take my hat off to the writer you have done a splendid job damn.Floyd has been so consistent over the years and has been on tip top cndition always,he has no point to prove to anyone.you want him face Klitchko”s now hey but a hater will be converted surelly….where the heck we you haters when he called out Mosley,ODH etc while he was smaller in weight saying he will take on all comers..you just want to use selective memory when bringing up Floyd”s name..I’m down in South Africa and I’m a huge fan of Pretty Boy..keep doing what you are doing son!!!!Posted October 19, 2013 11:31 am
Floyd had his defining fight and that was against Castillo. Just because nobody is able to put him in a fight of the year type fight means nothing. Just shows how great he isPosted October 19, 2013 11:28 am
Great article. Balanced and a good read. Mayweather is a hall of famer and one of the best…ever.Posted October 19, 2013 11:25 am
Why is it that fans always insist that middleweights build there careers by fighting blown up Welters? On top of that they then blame the little fighter if the fight doesn’t happen.Posted October 19, 2013 11:13 am
If he fights Pacman now, his always objective critics would say, he cherry picked him now when he’s way over the hill, so no use to fight him now. How about fighting Golovkin, Ward, Hopkins, Huck and Klitschko. Imagine he wins ALL these fights. What may the comments be? Golovkin a never was hype job who never fought a good opponent. Ward a feather punching dirty fighting billy goating fraud. Hopkins thrice too old over the hill having cherry picking himself for 25 years. Huck a raw brawler without any significant boxing ability. Klitschko a safety first clinching and grabbing glass kin robot. So no use to fight them either. Maybe if Mayweather would fight all five of them on the same night and KO all five of them inside 3 each during the process?Posted October 19, 2013 11:10 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
Floyd Mayweather Jr is just a greey money hungry boxer. He lackas a true champions hearth and don’t stand for anny values worth talk about. He is a good boxer in the ring but thats all you have to give him, the rest is nothing. He don’t have that what Sugar Ray Ronison, Rocky Marciano, Mohammad Ali, Joe Louis, Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Oscar De La Hoya, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Lennox Lewis and now Wladimir Klitschko etc. What made them GREAT CHAMPIONS? They all stood and did valuble things outside thye ring and where better role models for young athletes and young fans and worked on lots of charity projects to give aback a little of the good things they got.Posted October 19, 2013 11:07 am
In short…boxing fans, know your history! That said, FMJ has not had that defining match. Why? Because he has crafted a career that allows him to appear bigger than he is. Just to name a few that have set the standard high, which he has yet reached…George Carpentier, Benny Leonard, Henry Armstrong, Sugar Ray Robinson, Jose Napoles, Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard….look at their records. No controversy attached to their “great” achievements.Posted October 19, 2013 11:06 am
I wonder how many detractors will be converted by this well thought out article.Posted October 19, 2013 11:05 am
YEARS AGO WE HAD LEGENDS, NOW WE HAVE HYPE PEDS AND PRIMA DONNAS.Posted October 19, 2013 10:59 am
Well detractors we are getting desperate now aren’t? Not content with comparing Floyd to the past (Argument fail), saying he should take up fights is a real underdog (just plain ridiculous, I mean who really does this…) now we are slandering the guys name based on the fact that his bodyguards use Peds. Even for his detractors this is a new low. This is because there is no proof whatsoever just hearsay as usual. (nothing to see here. I think his detractors need to try harder.Posted October 19, 2013 10:46 am
marquez pacman mayweather are all clean. LOL.Posted October 19, 2013 10:41 am
Boxing sucks anymore and Fraud is responsible for ruining this so-called sport. Its only about the money anymore just like POLITICS… Set up all the hype to the people and they will fall for anything. Boycott PPV events!Posted October 19, 2013 10:34 am
Floyd is surrounded with peds users, his bodyguards are known peds users, his fighters D’love and Micky Bay are known peds users, Floyd is likely to use peds than Pacs, I cannot accuse Pacquiao 14 bodyguards of peds used because they carried Armalites and don’t have muscles.Posted October 19, 2013 10:33 am
testPosted October 19, 2013 10:31 am
Once again… this is your allegation. And if I were you I would remain anonymous if you are really saying that. Again until you bring proof to the table there is nothing to discuss here.Posted October 19, 2013 10:19 am
Steroid pusher Hale aids Floyd early in his career.
WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT PEDS IN BOXING TODAY,SOMEHOW IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO AMERICA FUNNY THAT.Posted October 19, 2013 10:11 am
Floyd is making his own path to greatness. He does not have to follow the same rules as someone else. He has created his own lane. This is what makes him great. This is why humans are different!!Posted October 19, 2013 10:11 am
So why have the boxing boards not taken away his titles?Posted October 19, 2013 10:09 am
Floyd moved his own goalpost when he claimed to be the greatest to ever lace up the gloves, even over SRR. Well, SRR ought over 100 fights, and went up to the highest weight-class he could to see how far his talent could take him. Roy Jones went up to heavyweight after starting his career at 154lbs, and fought a man with a 30lb weight disadvantage. All Floyd has done is remain undefeated, while picking his opponents carefully. His best accomplishment was beating Castillo in their rematch after being handed a gift decision in their first fight. While Floyd fights is a great fighter, he hasn’t met his claims with his accomplishments.Posted October 19, 2013 10:08 am
Xylocaine is illegal in 51 States except Nevada, as far as i’m concerned, Floyd is a cheater because it is illegal in my State of Massachusetts.Posted October 19, 2013 10:07 am
So why has he not been punished??Posted October 19, 2013 10:04 am
For the thousandth time. Floyd has not fought Pac because of the presence of Bob Arum and Top Rank. This is now common knowledge. This is a fact because Top Rank fighters are not fighting Golden Boy fighters.Posted October 19, 2013 10:02 am
Tnt Floyd admittedly uses the ped xylocaine so no he’s not clean.Posted October 19, 2013 10:00 am
Bobby the boxer
Peej you know that Floyd made every excuse not to fight PAC. First he insisted on using Golden BOY AEG partner USADA instead of WADA. Then he insisted on a 60/40 split, and finally didnt like Arum’s stadium ideas.Posted October 19, 2013 9:59 am
The fact is FMM is as clean as they come. Thats a fact!! Jack!!Posted October 19, 2013 9:56 am
Well are you gullible enough to believe everything you read?Posted October 19, 2013 9:55 am
What facts you wanna talk about? I’ve backed everything up with facts. Saying Floyd failed drug test is just a theory and it says it in the article he read it on cause I’ve read the same one. There is no proof. And in the article it says it’s a theory because they have no facts and don’t wanna be taken to court like Pac didPosted October 19, 2013 9:54 am
armstrong the classic american drugs cheat.Posted October 19, 2013 9:53 am
Its amazing!! when you ask the Floyd detractors to argue facts – they all just seem to disappear. Its always hearsay with Floyd detractors. They are just soo emotional!! lol!!Posted October 19, 2013 9:51 am
Floyd has never tested positive. All hear say and rumors.Posted October 19, 2013 9:46 am
I don’t even acknowledge those comments. His lame post have nothing to do with the sport , he can’t come up with an original name and he is just a keyboard warrior. Probly just a lonely child crying out for helpPosted October 19, 2013 9:44 am
Bobby the boxer
Floyd 3x Positive Tests, Armstrong didnt need to bribe USADA because for one, he was already paying off the International Cycling Union (ICU) for all his protection; and and two, Armstrong was “the” PED czar and smart enough to evade USADA for years.
When USADA finally caught up with the schemes, they made several deals with Armstrong that would expose ICU–one of their main drug testing competitors and thus likely force them to relinquish more control to the USADA monopoly.Posted October 19, 2013 9:44 am
GGG has never fought at 154 so I don’t see how he is running scared from someone who has never fought nor is ranked at 154Posted October 19, 2013 9:41 am
You are right Anonymous. Your verbal skills clearly show your intelligence and acumen.Posted October 19, 2013 9:40 am
Stop leaving fooking comments!!! You are too fooking stupid to be involved in any conversation to do with boxing. SHUT THE FOOK UP!Posted October 19, 2013 9:37 am
I for one am happy that boxers like Floyd are able to dictate at the table. Gone are the days when boxers were mugs manipulated by unscrupulous managers. If he is cherry picking he is doing the right thing. The so called fans are not going to help you when your debilitated from fighting.Posted October 19, 2013 9:36 am
Why don’t you explain to the world why Gennady Golovkin deserves a fight with Floyd Mayweather?
So, you’re saying that the quality of opponents of Golovkin is Hall of Fame?
Is that what you are saying — because you seem really smart — so what you are saying is that:
– Matthew Macklin is a Hall of Fame fighter?
No wait — I am wrong — these guys suck. And Golovkin knocked them out so Golovkin must be a Hall of Fame fighter who deserves a fight with Floyd Mayweather.
No wait — I am wrong — Ishida and Rosado these guys are really 154 pound fighters who moved up in weight to fight Golovkin, so Golovkin is a Hall of Fame fighter who deserves a fight with Floyd Mayweather.
Yes — you are right. Golovkin really has had great opponents in his career.Posted October 19, 2013 9:36 am
Mayweather keep running away from Golovkin. All Russia know Golovkin best in world and Mayweather very scared to fight him at 154.
Golovkin best fighter in world and Mayweather know this that is why he run away.
It true, people say Mayweather is coward. Golovkin beat him very fast. So Mayweather run away.Posted October 19, 2013 9:35 am
Stop with he scared to face Pac garbage. Pac was offered the fight several times including a 40 mil payday. They declined. Y’all keep saying Bradley and Marquez where dumb or scared because they turned down a bigger pay day just to face each other . What’s that say about Pac turning down the biggest payday of his whole career?Posted October 19, 2013 9:35 am
The goal post in not even that high but Floyd is afraid to bring it down, I’m talking about Pacquiao, just one fight to claim his greatness and he is too scared to try. why not fight Pacquiao to get over with. 60% voted for this fight on ESPN poll, Khan got 7% and he will get the fight? WTF!Posted October 19, 2013 9:32 am
“If Floyd fought peak Robinson, Leonarrd, Duran, Hearns 5 times each there would be wins and loseses on both sides in 12 round fights , All decision fights. In 15 rounders I see some KO’s . WithRobinson, Duran, Leonard Hearns KOinhg Floyd in late stoppages.”
Yes we do have some myopic posters. How do you know if they will win? Are you god, psychic rainman?? You don’t know. Therefore you can only argue on facts!!! These are not facts they are opinions. This is just like saying if Tyson had a proper mansger he would have been the greatest ever. We don;t know!!Posted October 19, 2013 9:31 am
Mayweather isn’t even in the top 50 best ever.Posted October 19, 2013 9:25 am
“Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the BEST technical fighter in the history of the sport.”
HAHAHAHA!!! Utter bollocks! Fraud Mayweather is a cheery picking joke. I laugh at the idea that he is a great fighter. He has ducked every fighter that could really beat him. If he’s so great why does every single little Mayweather nut-hugger crap themselves at the thought of Fraud Mayweather fighting Gennady Golvokin at 154 when Fraud Mayweather holds three belts at that weight.
Because they know Golovkin would destroy him and his bogus record.
Mayweather is a fooking cherry-picking joke, a total fraud and COWARD!
If you’re so great Mayweather fight Golovkin, or be forever known as a chicken.Posted October 19, 2013 9:21 am
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the BEST technical fighter in the history of the sport. There is nobody better — there has never been anybody better in terms of boxing technique and skill.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is ONE OF THE BEST fighters overall in the history of boxing — I am not yet sure if he is THE BEST.
In terms of being THE BEST, Floyd hurt himself by not fighting Manny Pacquiao — a fight which in retrospect would probably have been an fairly easy win for Floyd because he is so technically superior and he has proven to be stronger and able to battle with much bigger fighters than Pacquiao.
Floyd hurt himself by fighting great fighters at the end of their careers rather than the beginning or peak times of their careers. Fights with Mosely, Delahoya, Cotto, Judah, could all have been done much earlier at much lighter weights and these would have made for great, great, great competitive fights. I believe Floyd would have won — but we don’t really know.
Floyd is lastly hurt by being fairly short. We don’t really know how Floyd would have done against the great BIG welterweights and junior middleweights. Sugar Ray Leonard (5’10”), Thomas Hearns (6’1″), and lesser names like Julian Jackson (6’0″) would be really big, really long armed challenges for Floyd. These three fighters also had huge power. We don’t know how Floyd would have done against these fighters. An interest comparable match-up would have been Floyd vs. Paul Williams (6’1″) or Floyd vs. Antionio Margarito (5’11”). Both of these fights could have been made and they would have been very good fights. We don’t know what the outcome would have been.
So, I think Floyd is technically THE BEST. I think Floyd is ONE OF THE GREATEST. I think Floyd hurt himself by not fighting Pacuiao, not fighting great fighters in the younger years, and not fighting really big guys.Posted October 19, 2013 9:00 am
TestbioPosted October 19, 2013 8:48 am
If Floyd fought peak Robinson, Leonarrd, Duran, Hearns 5 times each there would be wins and loseses on both sides in 12 round fights , All decision fights. In 15 rounders I see some KO’s . WithRobinson, Duran, Leonard Hearns KOinhg Floyd in late stoppages.Posted October 19, 2013 8:35 am
Many of the detractors claimed they would give Floyd credit and accept his greatness if he fought and beat Canelo. But as soon as he out-boxed Canelo and made it look easy, these same detractors started bringing up GGG instead of keeping their word. So the detractors shouldn’t be taken seriously in the first place. Most of them aren’t even real boxing fans.Posted October 19, 2013 8:25 am
You can’t argue with greatness when stares you in the eye. Only an imbicle would want to do that.Posted October 19, 2013 8:22 am
great article. Everything in it, needed to be said and it’s about time. Like I said, the critics actually make Mayweather’s greatness obvious by constantly trying to move the goalpost, because they badly want to see him lose.Posted October 19, 2013 8:20 am
drug testing in america is about as useful as an ashtray on a harley davison.Posted October 19, 2013 8:14 am
Karpog – Damn, judging by the record breaking PPV nos & the money his making many of these experts, boxing greats, sporting greats, movie stars, celebrities etc must be really bored all these 17yrs. You not too bright dude.Posted October 19, 2013 8:02 am
Watch MMA instead. Boxing is not for you it you cannot appreciate defensive excellence.Posted October 19, 2013 7:52 am
Mayweather is the most Boring fighter in Boxing. He is not fun to watch at all. Most people like watch him just to get KO by. Overall he is a flamboyant and class B fighter.Posted October 19, 2013 7:51 am
no sports person should be your role model!Posted October 19, 2013 7:49 am
Anonymous- ha ha ha i new it was coming, even though ur not the real Anonymout/Doushbag….his is s capital A. Diaz Clotty when is manny fighting them again? Go 2 sleep pretenderPosted October 19, 2013 7:26 am
You have made some valid points but….
Floyd did do as you wished. He fought a bigger Canelo. And before this fight this was supposed to be Floyds biggest test EVER!! How many were wrong ay?
So by that measurement floyd is an all time top 5 great!!Posted October 19, 2013 7:24 am
Holding a title for 15 years doesn’t make you automatically an all-time great, especially when the sanctioning body are happy to allow you to take several years off at a time and never fight mandatory contenders. Under those same criteria any boxer at the top level could amass a record like Floyds.Posted October 19, 2013 7:04 am
Floyd is definitely an ATG and I have always been one of his biggest critics, I still wish he would take a fight where he is truly the underdog as this would take him to the top 5 ATG’s, win or lose. Robinson a welterweight taking on Maxim, Leonard beating Hagler , Duran (smaller than Floyd) giving Hagler hell and beating Barkley are examples of what I mean. Floyd not fighting Manny in 2008 is a shame for both their legacies but is all politics. If Floyd fought Martinez at 160 (the number 1 MW regardless of opinions about GGG) I give him a good shot but even if he lost and gave a good performance it would raise him to the very best!Posted October 19, 2013 6:48 am
Piechucker – when is it gonna register in your thick skull that Top Rank fighters including Pacnap never fight Mayweather eversince he ditched Arum and do you believe that Cintron, Quintana and Williams were gonna beat Floyd. GTFOH!Posted October 19, 2013 5:41 am
Just don’t give Khan a shot. Floyd’s legacy will suffer if Chinny gets a pay day.Posted October 19, 2013 5:25 am
Where is your proof that he ducked these people? Thats just your opinion!! Do yourself a favour try to look at things more objectively it will make things a lot clearer for you. Stop being so emotional.Posted October 19, 2013 5:18 am
there in is why Floyd doesn’t get his props, he retired when he had the hottest division in the sport. then in a rather repulsive way, he made a comeback when they had all been knocked off. you suck Floyd (best skillset ive ever seen though)Posted October 19, 2013 5:17 am
Williams, quintana, cintron, mosely, cotto, clottey, margarito, which one do you want to fight Floyd? “too risky I retire”Posted October 19, 2013 5:16 am
In the first negotiations of a Floyd/Pacquiao fight, Floyd offered Pacquiao 50% of the gross just as long as Pac and him take a random drug test .And Floyd was wiling to agree to his demands of paying 10 mil for every pound he comes over the limit if he comes over the limit.but Pacquiao turned it down claiming he` s scared of needles and claiming taking blood makes him weak.So Floyd took the first offer off the table.Posted October 19, 2013 5:13 am
I am beginning to believe that the posters on this site are not very smart. The Pacqauio argument is a non starter. IN 2013 it s clear as day that Top Rank boxers cannot fight Golden Boy because of Bob Arum. It is a clear after the Bradley fight and more apparent than ever. He will fight Pac if Bob Arum does not scupper negotiations. If anyone starts comparing FMM to past dinousaur fighters they should kill themselves. Most smart people acknowledge that humans are fitter now than they have been in the past thanks to technology. How can a boxer 30 – 40 years ago be technically better than boxers today is ludicrous!Posted October 19, 2013 5:10 am
Floyd Mayweather was also past his prime when he fought Oscar,Mosley and Cotto.Floyd also wasn`t fighting at his natural weight either when he fought Hatton and Canelo.Floyd`s natural weight is 130.Posted October 19, 2013 5:08 am
He ducked Pacquiao without question, did not want to fight him, too dangerous.Posted October 19, 2013 5:05 am
Listen choky will all due respect – this article was designed for people like you. How could a man of his record, skill and intellect not at least be top 10!Thats just absurd!! Laughable almost. Ha HaPosted October 19, 2013 5:03 am
mayweather is good but the greatest ever dont make me laugh – he is not even one of the 10 best ever –Posted October 19, 2013 4:36 am
This ……this is the best article ever written on this site. The close examination of FMM from all angles. The comparison of records to fighters of similar stature. This is a very well written piece. The guy who wrote this is very intelligent and analytical.
Without a shadow of a doubt! FMM is the greatest of all time! Hands down.Posted October 19, 2013 4:35 am
Fighting mayweather is the pinnacle of every boxer’s career, you ain’t the best until you beat mayweather, personally I’m not a big fan of his, but he has my respect for being the best in the game. Probably the greatest that’s ever laced up a pair of gloves. He will only be appreciated in 10 or 20 years, after he retires :)Posted October 19, 2013 4:31 am