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Gonzo the Dragonborn

Brother MK.

Yes, unfortunately I do know him better than you.

Again you’re indeed correct sir about the Gonzo backing up his arguments with hard proof and facts and his victims having to resort to petty insults, Ad Homnoms attacks and name calling. It’s literally impossible to outwit me or defeat me in a debate and I know it drives my victims insane and frustrates them no end knowing that they’re never going to be able to get one over the Gonz. The Arena of Debate is my domain and I rule it with an iron fist. I gave up keeping score after I started hitting six figures, but they only number that I do keep track of is the glorious immaculate zero in my loss box. That ain’t changing anytime soon. Real talk.

That said, to be fair to myself (I don’t want to come across as too self-effacing and modest here), feeling on top and looking down on others is something which comes very natural to me.. I don’t have to prove my worth to myself to feel good about being me and bolster my self-confidence. I’ve known I was the best since I was old enough to know anything. Some may find that kind of talk coming from oneself arrogant and conceited but I don’t see it that way at all.

Posted June 13, 2013 10:05 pm 


MK

Gonzo the Dragonborn: You know that person, better than me, with Ward not having a future, the thing may resolve itself.

What I do know is that you gave clear-cut facts, regarding the Smw super 6, and that person only called you names.

I do think that you have the right to feel on top, looking at what is happening, with lesser comments from that particular person.

Posted June 13, 2013 2:35 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

#1 lol

Posted June 13, 2013 12:14 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

lol @ brothers Mongrel and Killing Moon.

Posted June 13, 2013 12:03 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Brother MK.. You’re cool. I don’t want to chase anyone of here either, especially when this place literally is their entire life. :)

Posted June 13, 2013 11:54 am 


MK

Mongrel: My respecting a person, like I respect Wards punching power and fairness in all his fights were real time sarcasm.

TARK: Don’t be so an ignorant fool, it is not me saying that the Froch vs Kessler fight 2 was close, before the 12th round, it was the commentators, and an english expert, but you can’t know, because you didn’t see the fight. It’s right on the screen.

Froch obviously won the second fight, since the viking warrior was over the hill. He started to slow, and did not impress me.

TARK: Learn to listen.

Posted June 13, 2013 4:02 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

But MK How can you say that…I thought we where a posse …Our only goal to destroy SREDMOND’s life and now you tell me you actually care about BOXING!!..

And what other people brings to a conversation???….

I just don’t get you..anymore.

Posted June 12, 2013 12:12 pm 


MK

I have not read Sredmonds comments for month now, because they are copy paste material, and unsubstantiated -thats when I stopped reading his comments.

I have not seen pictures of this person, or anything else, due to the fact that he is unimportant. The only problem is that one has to scroll past a lot of text to get to the experts.

I respect this human being, exactly the way I respect Wards punching power and fairness, in all his fights, just as much. Now on to boxing.

Posted June 12, 2013 11:45 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

First there’s a conspiracy against Ward, now you?

SRED: You’ve lost your marbles…Do as I say…And get the help…I think we would all understand…Because mental health is more important than some online-persona you’ve invented…..Even in NY there must be people and places that would help you….I’m being totally sincere here…I don’t think any of us would enjoy you commiting suicide online….But that is the road your deluded mind is about to enter…Please shut-off the comp….Go take a long hard look in the mirror…And get some help…You need it…Or continue being a joke here…Travelling further into madness by the day…Until you fulfill my prophecy….This shouldn’t even be a discussion…Meds,psychiatrist and creating a life should be your goals…Not how can i come back on ESB…Are you ready for reason?

Posted June 12, 2013 11:34 am 


SREDMOND

HaHaHa “If you want to pay him a visit” feel free!!!!!NY is
AWESOME in the Summertime assuming you guys can afford to fly to a major city??? Nightlifes legendary and the Women are World Class not the sort you find in these TERRIBLE small towns and villages some of you populate.. Whatever you do AVOID being the tourist type and going to see the Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty and all that other crap that’s amateur hour! REAL NYC is far more interesting… Be sure to swing by the new Barclays center in BKLYN for a fight or show, I have tickets to Broner vs Malignaggi coming up!!! The “Frying Pan” off the West Side HWY is LIVE during the summer (It’s a boat) tons off drunk girls and reasonably priced… When you guys come on your recon mission you might wanna hit the Meatpacking District where all the models party, it’s expensive but worth the $$$$$$ hit the Standard Hotel Beer Garden, Gansevoort Hotel Roof (Plunge) STK, Catch and Toy… Your game better be tight because these women don’t respond to out of town farmers who wear acid washed jeans and at out of shape “jus say’in” also “Coffee Shop” on 16th and Union is a cool mainstay tell the bartender Carl you friends of
Mine he might hook you up!!! Again I just want you guys “seek
And destroy mission” to be as fun as possible before it ALL goes WRONG…. Holla!! :)

Posted June 12, 2013 8:58 am 


SREDMOND

I have officially OWNED The minds of ESB’s worst losers they were driven to seek out more info on their tormentor!! Sadly you guys are not the first Bears and that crippled OLD man I forget his name went thru the SAME arduous process spending time and money chasing info about another man… Now we have Lion King, Killing Moon and Gone-So pooling their resources and attempting to find another means to stem the tide of my superior arguments and verbal abuse, problem is guys is that you have shown me that the effect I’m
Having on you is MASSIVE and has extended into your REAL lives, this is like giving raw
Meat to a Lion!!! How upset and FRUSTRATED must you have been to exchange phone numbers, set up a PayPal account and begin stalking the Internet for another man? This is expected from Ex Girlfriends but a group of guys on a boxing website?? Again this underscores my utter domination of you all within this medium (message board) who knew guys were getting this upset by NOW I undeniable proof that I dominate your thoughts and have turned presumably Grown men into a team of love struck Internet stalkers and hero worshippers…. Again Thanks for bowing down, Thanks for following me in Twitter again my FB page is more active and Thanks for letting me know I’m the runaway winner and mind controller on these boards!!

Posted June 12, 2013 8:42 am 


SREDMOND

Gonz and Crew, you checked out my modeling pics? I’m FLATTERED guys I can ALWAYS use more fans!!! It’s a tad strange to have some
“so called boxing fans” Internet stalking another guy but when you breakdown and destroy guys minds and arguments so thoroughly what’s really left? Why not friend me on Facebook that way you can keep tabs in greater earnest, I’m not really active on Twitter?? In any event attacks on Andre Ward are futile! You guys cannot produce a boxer who can defeat him in the RING!!! I know you believe this is some sort of political campaign where if you post enough nonsense he’s NOT gonna be #2 P4P in the world, Super 6 Winner, Undefeated, or destroyer of Froch, Kessler and Dawson but that’s NOT gonna happen… Engaging in an online seance with Gone-So, MK, KillingMoon and the rest of these online psychos and sycophants is not gonna yield any results in the real world… Do you see how the most POWERFUL boxing networks on the Planet are using Ward to pass judgement and announce Kessler and Froch fights?? How he easily points out the holes in their games which he EXPLOITED in the ring and would exploit again were they up to snuff?? Kesslers pretty much done and Froch is postponing a rematch with Dawson for as long as humanly possible!! The man would rather fight another bout with Bute or Kesseler because he knows they are beatable… Some of his naive fans will continue buying this travelling fantasy because it’s ALL they have to cling to but REAL boxing fans and experts all agree that EVERYONE at 168 pounds is Wards VAST inferior…. These are just facts !!

Posted June 12, 2013 8:28 am 


Mongrel

Back to Andre Ward, I`m happy to leave the factual, and tactical dismantling to brother Gonzo, who has engaged in a selfless campaign to better educate the ESB masses as to the nefariousness of this individual.

Myself, I just wish to reiterate that irrespective of his phenomenal opponent neutralising powers, Ward is a boring crab-eyed mong, whose most notable neutralising power is on his own paycheque despite being p4p2/3.

Posted June 12, 2013 3:55 am 


Mongrel

Whoah….Redmond, dude please tell me that you zip your pants up before you post on here.

Posted June 12, 2013 3:39 am 


MK

Gonzo the Dragonborn: I am here to listen to other commentators, on this site, if the commentator is a factual and funny writer, it makes it even better, and then I put out my thoughts myself.

I hope that I have not made anyone leave, because that’s not why I am here, I love boxing, it’s a science. This is why I brought up the biological passport, and the lack of PED testing in the sport fx.

I am aware that I don’t have the knowledge about boxing that long long long-time experts have, but I like this site, with all it’s infighting.
I wouldn’t want anyone to leave, nomatter what I think of them, you know what I mean:)

Posted June 12, 2013 1:22 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Edit>even if I do say so myself

Posted June 11, 2013 11:43 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

loL Hidalgo. No that would be the one I penned about SOG the other week on here. It was much longer than that one. And it was utterly brilliant even if I do say so my self. I’m sure it’s going to be making plenty of appearances in the future. lol

Posted June 11, 2013 11:43 pm 


Is this Sredmond?

Bwahahaha!

Those pictures.

Corny cringe cornball.

Sredmond got rumbled.

Posted June 11, 2013 10:27 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Hmmm…Not sure the right way to cure a sick man is beating him….Up the dosage…Would be my advice…

BTW…SRED…Kissing up to you LMAO…..Not a great adversary…LMAO….I just come here to discuss boxing…My life doesn’t gravitate around this site….You spend so much time here…But not for the boxing-parts….All the drama you can stir up actually makes you feel like you have a life….You’ve become a running joke…Spending hours upon hours on this site….Now off with you…Seek some treatment….Do it for yourself…

Posted June 11, 2013 7:08 pm 


Is this Sredmond?

Sean Redmond was born in 1970. Sean currently lives in Brooklyn, New York. Before that , Sean lived in Springfield, MA from 1988 to 2008.

Sean Redmond is related to Edna Redmond, who is 80 years old and lives in Springfield, MA. Sean is also related to Ralph Redmond, who is 83 years old and lives in Springfield, MA.

Posted June 11, 2013 5:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Killing Moon, kissing up to me is NOT gonna change my opinion nor stem the tide….We BOTH know your feeble attempt to sell the unsellable has been stamped out much like the ember from a cigarette…I have NEVER considered you an adversary, because that implies your remotely competitive which you are not… You are a KNOWN whiner and teller of “Tall Tales” I’m just stating the FACTS Winner Super 6=Andre Ward WINNER vs Froch=Andre Wars WINNER vs Mikkel Kessler=Andre Ward P4P number 2=Andre Ward, Ring Champion=Andre Ward Undefeated=Andre Ward….. Again these are facts I’m repeating, I did not create them :)

Posted June 11, 2013 4:06 pm 


Angie

nightmare, c’est triste, mais t’as raison…comme d’habitude…

Posted June 11, 2013 3:16 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

SREDMOND: Oh FFS…What’s happened to you….You used to be a somewhat knowledgeable boxing-fan(A bit on the aggresive side though, but a worthy opponent one could respect)…Now you’re the laughing-stock on ESB….Don’t you get it! Everyone is laughing at you!….I meant it when I said it …Seek help dude….

Posted June 11, 2013 3:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Killingmoon please you are LYING are you really trying to say you have not seen Wards name used by other posters on this and other threads? MK alone is all over the place trying to discredit and undermine Wards accomplishments to NO avail all over the place… He claims “Wards win over Dawson means nothing because Stevenson beat him” HUH????? Hows that work in boxing? Ward hands him his first stoppage loss close to a year ago and Stevenson beats him coming off that loss but Ward gets no credit? This passes for boxing analysis???HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted June 11, 2013 2:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Killing Moon, the FACTS are like BOMBS detonating in yours and the rest of the whining brigades faces..Whats “pathetic ” are the weak minded Froch
And Kessler fans who cannot appreciate the two fighters despite their limitations at the Elite level both are very good World Class fighters but when faced with that next level (Andre Ward) they have fallen BADLY SHORT. This in ands of itself is not the worst thing but the mountains of EXCUSES and ATTACKS on Ward cheapen both fighters and make them look inept and in need of a PR campaign instead of comfortably settling into their roles as less than Top Dog at 168…. Marquez is amazing he’s one of my favorite fighters and he knocked out an ATG after an epic quadrilogy, but he was painfully mastered by a boxer who is on a leve WELL ABOVE the lofty level he’s on..: Marquez does not want further combat nor does he try to sell himself as superior to Floyd, he is enjoying the legacy he has actually EARNED whereas deluded Froch and Kessler fans seek to elevate their men via politics when head to head BITH were mastered by Andre Ward…

Posted June 11, 2013 2:33 pm 


NIGHTMARE

SREDMOND is a pathetic and ignorant jackass, don’t waste your time ANGIE. But I agree 100%.

Posted June 11, 2013 12:42 pm 


MK

TARK: I don’t believe you have seen, the Froch vs Kessler 2 fight, it’s not on youtube.

Understand that a fact, can’t be discussed. The English commentators had it even before the 12th round, and the same was true according to an english expert. You can watch the scores on screen. Furthermore you can watch the english experts scoring on the television.

In my opinion Froch won, due to Kesslers inactivity, although he factually almost knocked out Froch in the 11th. If you don’t believe me, ask Froch.

Kessler, in the eyes of the whole world, won the first fight, without a doubt, fair and square.

But anyways both boxers got a huge payload, and wasn’t hurt …so TARK learn from Froch and Kessler, they are rich, and relatively fresh.

Posted June 11, 2013 12:27 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Chump and Whiner…Eh….Oh dear….Sredmond so nasty….And now this agenda-thing LMAO…..You’re so stupid…You really think i’m out to get a fighter…I really don’t care about….The only time I hear Wards name in a conversation is when you bring him up….And that’s kinda sad for Ward…You know….That one of his only fans. Is a low-life with mental problems….Which you do have…And it’s time to accept it…And get some help…Wasn’t that humanitarian of me….Even though you’re so nasty…I’m still trying to get you to help yourself….

Posted June 11, 2013 12:22 pm 


SREDMOND

I don’t think Ward has gotten”special treatment” in the slightest… Being a kid with 20 fights facing Kessler goes that a Great deal? Remember he was the underdog… Beating Froch AWAY from home with a cracked hand goes that special… And yeah you just tried to sell Calzaghe who himself acknowledged that Wards a BETTER fighter than Froch as if anyone but idiots need to question that FACT..

Posted June 11, 2013 12:15 pm 


SREDMOND

KillingMoon, you ARE chump
And whiner and I don’t even recall you caring for Greens welfare post Kessler… ??? Again trying to portray yourself as a Humanitarian is NOt gonna work with me whe I can see your virulent Anti-Ward agenda in play… I did NOT make SOG #2 in the world that was boxing Gods and he earned that distinction by cleaning out a division and the smashing Chad Dawson as the cherry on top… He’s an ELITE fighter who has won since he was 12, and has Olympic gold this is not a Blue Collar fighter who has to scrape by the Jermaine Taylors of the world via last minute stoppage when you’re down or get a hometown decision like many think Froch did against Dirrell and Kessler did against Froch… He’s beating his BEST OPPONENTS easily Dawson and Kessler did not finish and Froch was outpointed easily…

Posted June 11, 2013 12:10 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

LMAO– SREDMOND….Nice try dummy….”You discuss Calzaghe”…No I mentioned his name….And there where plenty of discussions about Joe C. in the past on these very same boards regarding travel and lack of…Don’t know why you think Ward should get special treatment,,,(Well I do….But that’s your problem …not mine….) No i’m not selling bogus doping claims…I’m talkin about Ward working with a known sinner….Guees he should get a pass on that, Right, Sred.

Then again seeing you speak about fair fights….I shouldn’t be surprised…..Are you not the one who keeps fighting that brickwall in your home …Headbutting the wall for hours….But hey! you’re fine…just fine….LMAO

Posted June 11, 2013 12:06 pm 


SREDMOND

I don’t accept EXCUES from Prime fighters, its just weakness and phony political BS if Ward got knocked out his next bout I would be shocked and accept it just like I did when
Donaire who I thought would murder Rigondeaux got embarrassed… Those fights with Kessler and Froch were SUPER fair and if they were BETTER boxers they would have won BUT alas they were not… Froch fought Ward on Neutral ground 3000 miles away from where he lives with a bad hand, Kessler was WAYYYYYYY more experienced and had a 20 fight version of Ward who’s best win at the time was Edison Miranda and what happened? He got beat up an bullies meanwhile Killingmoon crys and discusses his “emotions” like a wash woman on her period… Man Up!! Your boys got DUSTED LMAO!

Posted June 11, 2013 11:55 am 


SREDMOND

Killing Moon, “home advantage” well lets vacate Frochs wins against Kessler, Mack and Bute?? Or Kesslers win against Froch at home and every other one?? You guys are some BUTT HURT Haters who are working overtime to pretend Andre Ward did NOT rightfully beat these guys and your feminine ways are appalling… You wanna buy or sell bogus doping claims because you HATE he bashed your fighters face in and KEPT doing it… You discuss Calzaghe who is the EPITOME of a hometown fighter who did not travel and fight a name US opponent till he was OVER 40 fights into his career and the opponents were OVER 40 years old… Ward, spanked, abused and marginalized PRIME versions of Kessler, Froch and Dawson you need to accept that because he’s the rising tide Super 6 Winner, Ring Champion and P4P #2 the aforementioned fighters were his LIGHT work, Sakio Bika gave him a tougher night out… And that’s REAL

Posted June 11, 2013 11:48 am 


SREDMOND

Wards win over Dawson was just and excellent OF COURSE Dawson used his weight as and excuse and Canelo will do the same damn thing.. The next guys who move up a division and lose are gonna use “moving up” as an excuse… That’s what boxing has become a sport populated by boxers making political EXCUSES and some so called fans that are more interested in vacating reality and results than they ate actual fights… How many honest fans on here don’t ALREADY know the spin that Team Alvarez will put on a likely loss? We have seen this circus before, athletes at the top win under all circumstances that’s why fighters like Mayweather and Ward are superior to all these whiners they find a way to defeat their opposition in the RING not on paper or by doing interviews after they lose making excuses…Even Pacquiao took his loss like a man and is gonna try and begin the road to redemption, Ward was considered mentally stronger than Dawson BEFORE they fought and those results showed in the ring…SOG went right at him, broke him down and got him outta there he both outboxed and outfought the bigger Dawson who showed up at his usual poundage after rehydrating… Chad called out Ward, there are NO excuses a REAL man is gonna accept for a prime fighter losing in that manner… Before he was trying to sell the Stenevson fight, Dawson said “the weight did not bother him” who but and idiot would accept the changed testimony of a now back to back LOSER trying to salvage his career? He’s gonna say “the ref stopped it too soon next” these guys are predictable as the rants of excuse making posters… Wards tops at 168 and that’s not changing with the current crop of sub elite 168 pounders like Kessler, Froch and Bute around…

Posted June 11, 2013 9:07 am 


SREDMOND

Killing Moon, no really DON’T respect committed EXCUSE makers with a clear agenda… There is ALWAYS a subplot when you guys don’t like a result ie “he was drained” “he was poisoned” “the venue” and anything else that can be manufactured in order to vacate or mitigate any wins or losses you don’t agree with that’s simply NOT boxing… I know you have been SUPER bitter ever since Ward who was then a relative nobody destroyed Kessler, I vividly remember you womanly crys for me to feel bad for Kelsser or somehow admonish Ward for kicking his ass… Well as you can see that AIN’T happening and the Ward express train keeps on rolling…

Posted June 11, 2013 8:54 am 


MK

TARK: If you count gently laying your glove on your opponents face, and hitting your opponents gloves, Froch won all the rounds against Kessler, in Froch vs Kessler 2, but why did the English commentators have the fight equal after the 11th round.

Well I think that Froch won, due to lack of Kessler activity. The English commentators said that Kessler had the most powershots, but that Froch had the most punches. Even Ward and his trainer thought Kessler won the fight. Now he didn’t, if you ask me, because he was past his prime.

My main point is that when you look at the lack of respect, Ward fans show the viking warrior, compared to Kessler fans saying that they are not sure that Ward doped, and that he can’t help being boring, thereby having no future money fights, it says a lot about why Ward is a nobody in boxing. Unknown, unloved and future unclear.

Posted June 11, 2013 3:39 am 


TARK

One thing you don’t have to be in Boxing, to be a BIG winner… is be a big puncher.. You only have to do more damage than you’re opponent, in more rounds.. Abolitionists say the object of the sport is to knock the other guy out.. That’s not true.. The object is to hit without being hit.

Strangers would come up to Gene Tunney and say, “You’re Gene Tunney the fighter.” … Tunney would say, “NO.. I’m Gene Tunney the BOXER.”

Posted June 10, 2013 11:40 pm 


TARK

Ward beats Dawson at any weight… Dawson’s chin was never his strong suit and Stevenson is a murderous hitter. Chad was careless. You don’t come out and make a statement against a big bomber if you’re not one—and if you have a soft chin. You feel him out, even if you give up a round or two. You’re not going to feel comfortable with a guy like Stevenson until at least the 3rd round. You still have to be extremely alert through the final bell and 2 more seconds after it rings. You keep watching him until you’re sure he realizes the fight is over. I’ve seen fighters try to congratulate their opponent after the final bell … and BOOM, they’re out.

Same thing when you’re on the floor. Some guys are so excited they’ll hit you … Defend yourself at ALL times.

Posted June 10, 2013 11:23 pm 


Hidalgo

Geezuz, Gonzo was that your Capstone paper that you wrote for your college degree?

Posted June 10, 2013 9:00 pm 


TOO SMOOTH

@Gonzo~Was he drained for Stevenson? All that stuff you wrote I can’t refute. That being said, nobody knows how Ward would have done if the fight had taken place at 175. I think Ward would have won do to the fact Dawson has ZJ syndrome also known as Zab Judah syndrome. Dude has all the talent in the world but his mental attitede is weak. Dawson looks great in spots then it’s like someone flips a switch and he self destructs.

Posted June 10, 2013 8:58 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Now slither back under the rock you came out from little earth worm and see if you can come better next time. lol

Posted June 10, 2013 8:49 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

What did I tell you the last time about King Daddy Gonzo’s hide being to thick for alt fangs to penetrate? And you should know by now he’s also completely immune to their venom too. lol

#1 lol

Posted June 10, 2013 8:47 pm 


Night Stalker

GONZO THE RETARDED IMBECILE!!!

Posted June 10, 2013 8:38 pm 


TARK

@MK.. You predicted Kessler would beat Froch… You didn’t listen to me when I told you Froch beat Kessler in Denmark, landing more and harder punches, according to the TV commentators and every other objective and knowledgeable observer … and I told you Froch was sure to beat him worse in the rematch because it was in England.. You insisted Kessler was going to win.

Froch is older than Kessler, so the argument the Dane was used up is bogus.. Froch was pissed because he waited years to get revenge for that robbery.

Posted June 10, 2013 6:46 pm 


TARK

@It’s me Ernie the Enema Slurper… I was on this website posting for months before Calzaghe fought Kessler.. I said Kessler was a robot who couldn’t get under a punch and had no body attack.. I had Calzaghe all the way.. A easy pick … but not for an ingorant pea brain who just doesn’t know Boxing … such as you.

Posted June 10, 2013 6:28 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“This leaves the biological passport, used in Pro cycling, where they can see variations in an athletes many variables.” – MK is correct. Cycling along with track and field used to be among the most widely juiced sports. Now they’re ahead of other sports due to the biological passport. Tennis just this year started implementing it. These are the only major sports that do it, yet boxing has the most need for it because boxers have the most on the line — their lives.

Posted June 10, 2013 5:36 pm 


DC1984

All you need to know is that Sredmond wouldn’t be riding Ward’s tail if he was white.

Posted June 10, 2013 4:34 pm 


Angelina

Killing Moon. Agree !

Posted June 10, 2013 4:14 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Tard wrote: “Mikkel Kessler never looked good to me.. I predicted Joe Calzaghe would beat him with ease”

Sure you did Bozo. Be sure to chime in next Monday to tell us all how you predicted Saturday’s fights…

Posted June 10, 2013 3:28 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Sred sez…, “I thought the only reason Conte got caught was because someone told the testing agencies what he was doing” … Nope. His junk was caught by standard illegal drug testing protocols of that time.” – Tark and SRed, none of the testing agencies had the clear and the cream on their testing lists and boxing still doesn’t test for EPO. Only reason Conte got busted is the aggressive reporting of the SF Chronicle, whose reports were widely cited at the time. Other media jumped on the bandwagon and had to cite the SF Chronicle, which did all the heavy lifting on BALCO reporting.

Posted June 10, 2013 2:41 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Gamboa was supposed to fight Rios for a million dollar payday. But he inexplicably pulled out and not long later Biogenesis was outed as a major PED supplier to MLB. So perhaps his supply was disrupted and he didn’t want to fight Rios if he wasn’t juiced up.

Posted June 10, 2013 2:38 pm 


MK

Kessler is over the hill, even though, he has got a fine trainer (Montoya) this is my oppinion.

Ward fans can’t see one single problem with him.

Ward never looked good, until the Kessler fight, up until which, he used Conte, and every dirty trick in the book.

Ward fans are under the impression that Ward was fantastic, from he was 12 years old.

I recognize Ward as a fine amateur style points system boxer, with great ring intelligence.

Ward fans hate Kessler and Froch, because they fight like men, and are liked by just about everybody, I think Kessler more than Froch.

Now, my point is that Kessler would have probably lost to Ward nomatter what, but was it really ok, to headbutt Kessler, so he couldn’t see, have a referee that prevented Kessler from punching, and using Victor Conte, well known PED pusher ….

Ward is trying to come back from injury, but has no following, no interesting money fights, besides Froch, in England.

Ward continues to talk about travelling, but stays at home, weird.

Kessler travelled to Wales, England, The States And Australia, Germany I won’t count.

It is easy to see, why Kessler, even over the hill, is heads and shoulders over Ward, when it comes to popularity, all over the world.

I respect Ward and Ward fans, I understand how Andre could have been a great boxer, with a great legacy, along the lines of Mayweather, but it will never happen, due to the above problems, Ward has.

Posted June 10, 2013 2:31 pm 


TARK

Sred sez…, “I thought the only reason Conte got caught was because someone told the testing agencies what he was doing” … Nope. His junk was caught by standard illegal drug testing protocols of that time.

@MK… Mikkel Kessler never looked good to me.. I predicted Joe Calzaghe would beat him with ease—and I was a big detractor of Calzaghe’s at the time. Calzaghe had technical problems similar to Paul Williams. JC’s speed, athletic gifts, and intensity masked stance and defensive flaws that would have been exposed by anyone as good as Andre Ward. People talk about Calzaghe beating Hopkins and Jones.. Jones met his demise at the hands of Antonio Tarver.. B-Hop was too muscled for the Calzaghe fight—not flexible, loose, or durable enough. The Mackie Shilstone diet and exercise regimen was ruinous to Bernard’s effort in that fight.

Posted June 10, 2013 2:26 pm 


A.

Yes Sredmond, aslong as the best man didn’t win with dirty tricks, it’s ok.

Posted June 10, 2013 2:17 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Yes, SREDMOND …Everyone who disagrees with you is surely a moron….How deluded are you?

Watching you the last couple of month(Only talking threads I participate in) its clear to see, you’re getting crazier by the day….Seriously take a break from posting and seek help….That’s just a friendly advice.

Posted June 10, 2013 2:08 pm 


TARK

Amir Khan has also been seduced into using Conte… With brilliant results so far right? Just like Chambers, Donaire, Berto, others are really get it going like never before.

Posted June 10, 2013 2:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Too Smooth, ALOT of modern boxing fans are DISGUSTING Girly Men who churn out excuses EVERYTIME they see a fight result they don’t like… Diluting the purity of ACTUAL results has become an artform to some of these CREEPS ie Bears, Gonzo, MK and a ton of others who simply create an excuse or conspiracy for why a fighter did not perform on a given night instead of saying “The Best man won”

Posted June 10, 2013 1:45 pm 


SREDMOND

The reason we KNOW that Conte and others were dirty is because they got caught.. NO ONE is infallible and over time you are usually gonna get bagged… AGAIN this is a red herring argument because Andre Ward is dominating the division with his BOXING skills… You cannot even make the case that we are seeing a bunch of one punch KO’s by this guy… He has NOT lost since he was 12 years OLD he has been undefeated LONG before Conte worked with him….FACT is that he is SIMPLY a more skilled and better fighter… Weren’t you guys dreaming that he was tired in the 12th against Froch and on the verge of a KO loss?? LOL…. Makeup your MINDS

Posted June 10, 2013 1:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Basically we can say the SAME thing about Kessler MK, he looked pretty damn good till he LOST thats boxing very few guys runs last forever… Your smear campaign against Ward who is NOT generally considered a big puncher is SUPER transparent and you are desperately trying to find an angle to elevate Kessler and Froch that does NOT entail either man ACTUALLY booking a win in the ring… They BOTH had their shot and had advantages that would have been able to exploit if they were BETTER fighters but in the face of an Elite Talent they were made to look ORDINARY as was Chad Dawson who had a very solid resume till he faced a PRIME ELITE talent who is mentally 3x stronger than him… Ward is winning the propaganda campaign by being 1.) Victorious 2.) Announcing for HBO and raising his profile 3.) Watching these guys struggle and go back and forth when he handles them easily, even a waning Kessler had Froch looking daffy in the 12th round… AGAIN your bitterness and motivations are OBVIOUS but they are in vain the boxing Gods have embraced Ward as #2 P4P in the World, he is the Ring Champion and Super 6 runaway winner….The reason you HATE this fighter is because he stands in the way of all intelligent arguments about WHO is better fighter between Kessler, and Froch… Froch KNOWS he cannot defeat Ward thats why he is seeking rematchs that NO ONE is even asking questions about anymore ie Bute and Kessler III… Who cares about those fights? But Ward is a guaranteed LOSS and 90% of the public knows that a guy like Ward would make Stevenson look like the crude banger he is….

Posted June 10, 2013 1:37 pm 


TOO SMOOTH

@Tark~ I thought the only reason Conte got caught was because someone told the testing agencies what he was doing and then they knew what to test for. Up until that point they could’nt find anything when they tested his atheletes he was giving PED’s to. Not making excuses, he’s just bad all around.

Posted June 10, 2013 1:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Donaire is working with Conte as our MANY others you guys are woefully ignorant about the World of PED’s and believe there are ONE or TWO gurus when there are literally THOUSANDS and they are all over the world.. Access and information about cheating is EVERYWHERE Wards reputation has NOT been tainted in the slightest a few jealous ESB posters mean absolutely NOTHING… Especially those like MK, and others who have BITTER hard on’s against Ward because he laid waste to their favorite fighters… The MK’s and K2’s of the world have actually taken on the name of a particular boxers it is EXCRUCIATING for these sort of fanatics to see their hero’s dominated and marginalized in the fashion that Ward has Froch and Kessler who were both very good World Class fighters but BOTH men lack the elite skills that are part of Wards repitoire… MK was recently predicting that Kessler would defeat Froch NOW that Kessler has fallen short again, he is building a nonsensical case for “Froch destroying Ward” provided the bout is in England where he dreams that Ward is more susceptible to a KO loss… LMAO!

Posted June 10, 2013 1:30 pm 


TARK

Too smooth…, I would agree if Conte were a master criminal. How masterful can you be if standard illegal drug testing protocols nailed your cheat fostering ass repeatedly—and sent you to prison for pushing PED’s???

Conte deceived his own athletes. He told them everything they were taking was legal and passed muster with every PED testing entity out there. When these athletes were nailed by positive tests, and banned from competition, Conte pleaded ignorance. After he was caught he was only repeating what the designers of the drugs were telling him to say, and he thought it was all factual. You can’t be a brilliant scientist on one hand, but a poor dumb schmuck when you’re caught red handed with the goods … Duuhhh Uuuhh???

Posted June 10, 2013 1:23 pm 


MK

Since you can now track microdoses of EPO, and EPO like substances, Steroids and Growth Hormone, as clarified by the recent doping scandals, coming by way of the Giro Di Italia Pro cycling event, substances that hide the main doping agents, are coming to the market. Problem is that a danish cyclist pointed out that the out of competition testing, makes room for several hours of nontesting, in the night.

This leaves the biological passport, used in Pro cycling, where they can see variations in an athletes many variables. I mean look at some of the best boxers in their prime: Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr, tell me that they didn’t have a great advantage, in their prime, later on they looked completely different, had lost the magic edge. One could argue the same thing, in regards to Pacman, one of my favorites. I wouldn’t touch Conte, if I was a Pro boxer, nomatter what. I am deeply surprised by the few doping cases in boxing, where it could really make a difference.

Posted June 10, 2013 1:20 pm 


TOO SMOOTH

@Tark~ Not making excuses for Conte but, is it possible tha VADA got Conte on board as a consultant much like the FBI and police departments use expert criminals to show certain techniques used in thefts and what not or how big corpertions higher computer hackers to develope a computer security system to protect their interests? Personally I don’t trust Conte. He is the last guy I would want in any professional sport especially boxing. The stakes are too high in the sport to trust a known cheater like Conte. the consequences for giving HGH or PED’s to a guy so he can throw 100+ miles an hour or hit a baseball 1 mile are nothing, so someone gets struck out or some has a 90 HR season, big deal but, in boxing people can be killed or damaged for life.

Posted June 10, 2013 12:46 pm 


Fight Aficionado

That juicehead Gamboa showed he doesn’t carry his chemically enhanced power up in weight. Better juice up more of that HGH and DHEA. Maybe he’s not found a replacement supplier now that Biogenesis is busto.

Posted June 10, 2013 12:09 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Two things: 1. Stevenson passed a major test and showed he’s indeed one of the top 1 punch KO artists along with Matthysse. Boxing needs more guys like this who galvanize fight fans. 2. Dawson is eroding by the day. That’s good for boxing fans because we won’t have to watch his snorebore pot shotting on HBO.

Posted June 10, 2013 11:44 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Carnivore….No chance….Not only does the ref give Dawson a few secs before counting….When Dawson then gets up he’s asked twice if he’s allright…Dawson has no idea what’s being said to him…And his body is only held up by the ropes….No chance…Be a responsible boxing fan..And stop asking for foolish things.

Posted June 10, 2013 10:47 am 


carnivore

I think you have to let Dawson fight after that knock down. Sure, he was hurt and looked a bit wobbily but the guy was the champ and I think he’s earned the opportunity to continue fighting. The outcome probably would have been the same but these are professional fighters and that’s their business and getting hurt is part of the game.

Posted June 10, 2013 10:37 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

I honestly don’t get why Ward would even take a chance with Conte….It’s like living in your own world…And paying no attention to what is about to become a big discussion in the boxing-community…It reminds me of what we saw in the pro-cycling community a few years back regarding Ferrari ..Where the best riders all raved about the fantastic training from which they received big improvements…It didn’t matter that riders got caught..They kept on using Ferrari ….Same arrogance is what’s on display here..It’s a big problem in the states , which prolly comes from the 80’s where it was very easy to see the effects of over-useage of steriods…Only a fool would insist these problems wasn’t there……Doping is nothing new in Boxing…But it could turn into the same plague as pro-cycling has been hit with…Which means it could cease the demythification of the sport in regards to big champs larger than life etc…And for a niche-sport like boxing this could be a disaster…..Alot of nut-huggers would argue that guilt by association isn’t fair…Perhaps they’re right…But honestly, when you do your bank-affairs do you pick the banker with a record or the squeaky clean one….For me personally it’s not that hard of a choice.

Posted June 10, 2013 9:48 am 


SREDMOND

This rush to make excuses for Dawson is not about saving Chads rep it’s about detracting from Ward dismantling him, he was NOT the least bit “drained” I’m tired if fighters making excuses Everytime they sign a contract and lose…You have to win with whatever you bring to the ring and that’s just how it goes… We have Angulo trying to make excuses for getting punches in the face.. God only knows what’s coming next from boxers… No one can take their losses like a man anymore… That’s why I appreciate Mayweather and Ward who DONT LOSE so we don’t have to hear the BS and Pacquiao who took his insane KO loss to Marquez in stride…. The rest of these whiners discussing “depression, trainers, weight, head colds” and the rest are a waste of time… The results in the ring are all that matter..

Posted June 10, 2013 9:19 am 


SREDMOND

How does Ward defeating Dawson in that
manner “mean nothing” ???? When Ward picked him off a YEAR ago before Stevenson who caught Dawson with one shot….. I Think MK means that Froch beating a banged up Kessler on points means very little… Froch did NOT stop Kessler nor even put him down and this was widely considered a well past it version of Kessler… Froch did what he had to do, MK Absolutely HATES Ward and has tried to steal EVERY bit of credit imaginable from this fighter and cast a dark cloud over his achievements… Well it’s NOT working, Wards on HBO calling fights becauses he’s Bright, Articulate, Undefeated, Ring Champion, Super 6 winner and #2 P4P in the World… The future continues to look AMAZING for Andre Ward after he dominated his underlings, foot servants? Serfs, Proles and Pages at 168….

Posted June 10, 2013 9:12 am 


SREDMOND

How is t “mysterious” that Watd and others would pick Conte who has begun to work closely with boxings regulatory bodies? If you want to be mysterious why would not do this in secret? MK you are gonna have to face it, Kessler is all but finished and Froch is gonna get murdered of he EVER gets in the ring with Ward again… He’s NOT a better fighter but Ward is after his brutal and clinical stoppage of Dawson… You yourself said that Kessler is NOW past it, so in essence you are reflecting the dominant theory going into Kessler/Froch II…. Kessler gave a decent account of himself while losing even with his terrible balance… Froch was talking Kessler III because he does not want to LOSE Ward II, because that loss is inevitable…

Posted June 10, 2013 9:03 am 


SREDMOND

MK, you have EVERYTHING against Ward and despise the fact he took Kessler and Froch down let’s be honest… Kessler was at his PRIME when Ward wrecked him as a green fighter, Froch got to face Ward with a Bad hand on neutral ground (AC) and still got Beatdown…Froch killed his own argument becauses he’s still discussing fighting in the States and Vegas is no more Wards hometown than AC is… As for Dawson, he called out Ward at 168 and got Beatdown, no excuses this is a guy who has had 10 trainers despite his talent he likes to assign blame elsewhere, I wonder who’s gonna be next? In a few years we will see Amir Khan with his 7th trainer when the flaw is with the fighter, Ward was just excellent enough to make hi look terrible and Stevenson murdered him with one punch…

Posted June 10, 2013 8:57 am 


SREDMOND

Wow, guys ate back stealing screen names on ESB???? Immaturity is not gonna yield you guys a better argument and you lack the prose and technique to emulate my signature style effectively….Why would someone suspect Ward of juicing that makes NO sense? He’s not even considered a power puncher? As for his ancestry who cares? He’s the 2nd or 3rd best fighter in the sport truly one of my favorites his domination of SMW is one of the true beacons of lightn in a boxing landscape dominated by excuses and “what if scenario’s”….. His defeat of the now totally lost Chad Dawson proved to be ruinous for “Not so bad Chad Dawson”…. Stevenson and the rest would look laughable in the ring with a guy who has Andres skills that guy is a guy with heavy hands and not enough skills to deal with SOG….

Posted June 10, 2013 8:50 am 


MK

I agree with the fact that it is mysterious how Ward would pick Conte, a criminal, as his vitamin supplier, I don’t think this connection has been discussed enough by the media, and boxing experts. I am not saying that Ward has ever doped, I am saying that who you associate with, says a lot about you, asa person.

Dawsons Stevenson defeat, as suggested by the dragon, on this site, says a lot about Wards victory, over Dawson. It means nothing, especially with a drained Dawson. I want to make clear that I don’t have anything against Ward as a person, it is his style, his hometown boy status, always meeting his opponents, when they are down. Stevenson, let’s see what he can do next, I am still not impressed, by that guy.

Posted June 10, 2013 8:42 am 


MJames

Bellew is too cautious in fights and is quite boring to watch, his draw with Chilemba showed us what Bellew is all about, despite winning the rematch, Bellew fails to impress. Adonis will beat Bellew easily if the fight ever happens, which I doubt it will, within six rounds by KO. Nathan Cleverly remains in No Man’s Land, fighting bums while calling out names from other divisions, strangely (Froch for example). Nathan won’t go near Adonis, but you can be sure he’ll start calling him out anyway. Nathan will make sure Adonis is offered peanuts, so that when Adonis rejects he offer, Nathan can start claiming that Adonis is avoiding him. We’re not stupid, Nathan, we can see games you’re playing. Will Cleverly ever get serious about his boxing career? Apart from Froch (if he moves to 175lbs or if Adonis comes back down to 168lbs, there’s no British fighter who could beat this guy. I’d love to see froch fight Adonis at either weight, Froch is the real deal. Bellew and Clevely talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.

Posted June 10, 2013 5:35 am 


huckster

yuri can be frustrating. About half way through the fight, he seems to lose interest.

Posted June 10, 2013 2:39 am 


Mongrel

Victor Conte knows absolutely NOTHING about science and nutrition, he is just a guitar player or drummer from some $h1t band,

He had a biochemist can`t remember the guys name, who was the brains behind making the clear. Conte is just a salesman whose one redeeming feature it that he looks a little like Ron Jeremy.

People get caught up on this crap like Conte or Ariza, when actually a dietician from any good hospital is far better qualified. I`ve worked with dieticians who have masters and PhDs – 7 years of training and years of experince in hospitals. Ariza is a glorified PE teacher.

Posted June 10, 2013 1:29 am 


TARK

It was brilliant to say Dawson would go into a panic… Dawson wanted o show he’s the last person who would ever panic.. The same reason you call your opponent a runner or a coward, or the most boring fighter on the planet… Get them to stand in there and trade.

Posted June 10, 2013 1:21 am 


TARK

I wonder how Ward will perform when he finally boxes again… His fight with Froch was delayed because he of injuries that had to heal… he was injured during the Froch fight itself… His last fight was cancelled because of injuries… I wonder how Ward is feeling? He doesn’t have a fight scheduled.

I wonder why it is, when you’ve had the tremendous success that Ward has had since he whiipped Kessler 4 years ago — that you decide to hire Victor Conte as your nutritionist??? Conte went to prison for PED distribution and how many people get sent away for that crime??? Not too many.. There’s a lot of experts who know a lot more about nutrition than Conte knows — so why him??? And I would say the same for Donaire, Chambers, Berto, and Edwin Rodriguez. Why Conte??? This stuff just blows me away … Has anyone been super healthy and resilient since they went with Conte??? Or have they suffered nagging injuries and had their careers and fights side-tracked because of injuries??? Just a question.

Posted June 10, 2013 1:09 am 


B Red

Damn Boxtra aka Correctamundo. Your Sckizofrentic

Posted June 10, 2013 1:04 am 


TARK

Boxtra…, You picked Dawson to beat Stevenson.. Wrong again.

Posted June 10, 2013 12:43 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Ward would out Box Stevenson anywhere IF enough fans clamor for it.

Posted June 10, 2013 12:00 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Gonzo’s Vulture Fact(s) of The Day

7. Vultures have bare heads and often bare necks so that when they feed on rotting carcasses, bacteria and other parasites cannot burrow into their feathers to cause infections. This allows the birds to stay healthier while feeding on material that would easily infect other animals.

8. Vultures have relatively weak legs and feet with blunt talons, though they do have powerful bills. If a carcass is too stiff for them to rip open, they will wait for another predator to open the flesh before they feed, which is why vultures are often seen in the company of other carrion-eating animals.

Posted June 9, 2013 11:23 pm 


?

Gamboa, I watched that fight, what has happened to him, took a break, that was like watching paint dry, he should of done something, it was 5 years ago he was the next big thing

Posted June 9, 2013 10:29 pm 


B Red

Tomato Can, so Boxtra aka Corrrctamundo suffers from multi identity disorder ?

Posted June 9, 2013 10:28 pm 


Patrick2

Gamboa’s problem is the guys at lightweight have too much length. His speed has a much more difficult time trying to overcome that. If I was guiding Gamboa, I’d urge him to move back down super feather or even feather weight where he isn’t outsized and can easily deliver that KO power. If he stays at lightweight, he’ll soon get beat, badly.

Posted June 9, 2013 10:25 pm 


Public Enemy

Drove the fastest milk cart in the west, poor old Earnie,

Posted June 9, 2013 10:20 pm 


jake

gamboa showed he has nothing he took too much time off too many easy fights,he did nothing after the 6th round , he was lucky perez didn`t have real power

Posted June 9, 2013 10:18 pm 


Patrick2

Forget Ward v Froch 2. Doesn’t matter where the fight takes place, Ward wins. And Kessler v Froch 3 is pretty much a foregone conclusion — Froch wins again. The fight that NEEDS TO BE MADE is STEVENSON vs FROCH. It would be a slugfest like no other. Froch would stand in there and trade and Stevenson would be more than happy to deliver. Could Froch will his way to a victory or would Steveson’s power be too much? We must find out! Please promoters, make it happen!!

Posted June 9, 2013 10:11 pm 


Ward v Froch

Who fights where, I have learned that there is a site fee for the fight, in Las Vegas, Casinos, could HBO market the fight as PPV, Froch fights a couple in the UK, then Ward v Froch in Las Vegas, they all knew that anyway.

Posted June 9, 2013 9:48 pm 


Big Al

Ward will never go to Canada, and after a win like that and a lineal champ now in his own right, Stevenson would be within his rights to ask Ward to go to Montreal if he moves up.

Posted June 9, 2013 9:30 pm 


Tomato Can

what?

Posted June 9, 2013 9:04 pm 


Tomato Can

Boxing and mental problems don’t go well together.

Posted June 9, 2013 9:01 pm 


HIPSTER

@ lefhook

My apologies, you’re right about what killed Marley. No matter how he died though, its a shame he didn’t have any children to carry on his legacy.

Posted June 9, 2013 9:00 pm 


lefhook

Big Lewis put a few 2 sleep and got banged out himself mind u lol

Posted June 9, 2013 8:59 pm 


lefhook

Ah well sometimes letting them rot is better anyway. Fckin scum

Posted June 9, 2013 8:58 pm 


Tomato Can

Yeah, I don’t like talking about it much, either. But it did happen, He served 4 months for that stunt. F CK that guy.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:58 pm 


Tomato Can

Nope the Death Penalty exists in the state he was charged. Maybe the fact that he pled guilty, and his defense said he was bipolar, played a role in his sentencing.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:56 pm 


Not Dumb

Butler v Grant fight, don’t talk about that one, no good, common sense.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:56 pm 


HIPSTER

I dont know about you, but I’d love to see Floyd Sr. Vs. The Ghost Sr.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:54 pm 


lefhook

Is there no death penalty in that state

Posted June 9, 2013 8:52 pm 


Tomato Can

I’m not sure, I hope so, cause he’s the type that will just do something again.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:50 pm 


lefhook

So does he have to do the 29 before parole?

Posted June 9, 2013 8:48 pm 


Tomato Can

He got 29 years. That doesn’t seem like enough to me, under the circumstances.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:47 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

That fake Boxtra was one of his Fans. I’m his fan TOO. SO I can’t blame him.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:46 pm 


Tomato Can

LMAO, at least, and their all in the same body.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:45 pm 


lefhook

What happened to him for the murder

Posted June 9, 2013 8:44 pm 


B Red

So your saying Correctamundo and Boxtradamas are 2 different people, hahahaha

Posted June 9, 2013 8:44 pm 


Tomato Can

Bred, their all the same, Corectamundo, Boxtradamus, and IfYouDon’tSeeitIDo. And their always right. They knew Dawson was going to get Starched, and if the tables were turned and Dawson would have somehow won that fight, they would have been right about that as well.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:43 pm 


lefhook

No trainer tells a fighter to adopt those tactics v a monster puncher u fool, the Ward thing was weight more than anything. Ward is no Stevenson in the power department. now get to bed correcto the adults are in conversation.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:42 pm 


Tomato Can

Sam tired helping Butler out, but then couldn’t get rid of the guy. Buttler supposedly killed him because Kellerman wanted him out of his apartment.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:40 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I’m CORRECTAMUNDO.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:40 pm 


B Red

Corretamundo, are you Boxtra? Hahahaha

Posted June 9, 2013 8:38 pm 


Spartacus 65

Left hook you are correct in your description of ray Charles Leonard. In his prime as a welterweight sugar ray was a complete fighter. As complete a fighter as you will ever see. Behind that pretty boy countenance was a stone cold killer. Superb balance,ring awareness, uncanny hand speed,very sharp reflexes,heart And a chin rivaling perhaps that of his idol Muhammad Ali, yes Ray Leonard was indeed something special.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:37 pm 


lefhook

T CAN…Did’nt know that about Kellermans brother. Wtf was that about?

Posted June 9, 2013 8:36 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Floyd Sr. had Dawson at Top 5 P4P in the Sport. His SKILLS were VERY impressive back then and have been on a downward slope ever since he left Big Floyd. Trainers DO make a difference. Wladimir Klitschko says that I am CORRECT.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:33 pm 


Question of Sport

Boxing, what happened next.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:31 pm 


Not Dumb

James Butler v Grant, I remember that, not good.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:28 pm 


B Red

Tomato Can, oh yeaH I forgot Marques Put Pac’s head to bed, hahahahaha

Posted June 9, 2013 8:28 pm 


Tomato Can

Pac/Hatton, SM/PW and were also brutal as well.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:27 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Ward should take Stevenson in Montreal next.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:27 pm 


Tomato Can

Wow, they called James Butler “The Harlem Hammer”, ironically he killed Sam Kellerman (Max’s brother) with a fricken hammer. That’s some strange sh t.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:25 pm 


B Red

Lefthook, yeah those were brutal, also Sergio vs Paul, Lebedov vs Roy, Abraham vs Taylor. Pac vs Hatton

Posted June 9, 2013 8:23 pm 


lefhook

HIPSTER..More like a fckt up toe m8

Posted June 9, 2013 8:13 pm 


HIPSTER

Its too bad weed destroyed Bob Marley’s career.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:11 pm 


Not Dumb

Mike McCallum v Julian Jackson, that was a good fight, McCallum could of lost that one, but he could box as well and trade.

Posted June 9, 2013 8:11 pm 


lefhook

B red.. Tommy Hearns knocking out Duran I turned to my Father n said he’s dead dad. Julian Jackson sparking Herol Graham. Leaonard ko’ing Dave boy Green, brutal. Leonard was a nasty fcker when he was in the mood. You couldn’t match him with guys below his level, he’d near kill them

Posted June 9, 2013 8:00 pm 


B Red

leftHook and Tomato Can, Which big fight was the most devastating Ko that you guys seen

Posted June 9, 2013 7:56 pm 


lefhook

Watching a program on him now, brilliant man

Posted June 9, 2013 7:50 pm 


B Red

Lefthook, Bob Marley is one of the greatest songwriters ever, ya dig

Posted June 9, 2013 7:49 pm 


B Red

Im curious if Pacman is gonna suffer the same fate as Chad, Jermaine , Roy, Meldrick, etc. The only fighter i know that bounced back from devastating Ko was Duran and I Think Hearns bounced back also after Hagler and Barkley

Posted June 9, 2013 7:44 pm 


Pete Wells

Bad Chad is the new J. TAYLOR of the boxing world. The guy will never be the same again, and ifhe was man enough to stand in front of Stevenson , he should be man enough to tell he wife that she shouldn’t wear that jacked up red wig. I’m still having hearing problems from her hair being so damn loud…….

Posted June 9, 2013 7:33 pm 


lefhook

Were jamming were jamming n I hope u like jamming 2, were jamming were jamming I wana jam it with u lol

Posted June 9, 2013 7:31 pm 


HIPSTER

I was joking about the greatness of Stevenson, but his power is undeniable. As stated, no boxer with a half a brain would stand in front of him, especially in the early rounds. Thankful, what makes boxing such a great sport is that its not a simple minded ButterBean slug fest. Thats why its called the sweet science.

P.S. I wouldn’t be suprised if Stevenson was on the juice.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:30 pm 


Dumber

Dawson should be in the that film with Jim Carrey.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:29 pm 


Dumb

You can’t fight dangerous punchers like that, he gave Stevenson no respect and paid for it.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:23 pm 


Tomato Can

I would give Stevenson a good shot at beating most if their dumb enough to stand and trade with him. Thankfully fighters with half a brain won’t do that, and then we’ll see how good Stevenson is.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:21 pm 


lefhook

HIPSTER,,, Bellow will knock him out!! mark my words. Great power, but power isn’t enough at that level to stay there

Posted June 9, 2013 7:16 pm 


HIPSTER

Stevenson has over a 80 percent knockout rate…..you can’t buy that for a dollar.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:16 pm 


lefhook

T CAN… Yeh he def deservers the credit, great shot.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:14 pm 


Tomato Can

Agreed, about Dawson fighting a dumb fight. He made a statement about his power recently. At that point I thought he might try and do something dumb like that. But I didn’t expect it so quick. Stevenson deserves the credit for landing the huge left hook though.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:12 pm 


HIPSTER

Stevenson has an insane amount of power. He didn’t even hit him flush and Dawson went down like a two dollar hooker. Mark my words, Stevenson is on course to rewrite boxing history. Its HOF or bust with his level of talent.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:11 pm 


lefhook

T CAN… Yeh m8 made me smile as well lol

Posted June 9, 2013 7:11 pm 


Tomato Can

LMAO, I always find it funny how fans see a good knock out, then think that guy is the best the sport has to offer.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:09 pm 


lefhook

B red… Surely he had to circle away from that left hand, you have to wait till you’ve drawn the sting out of a banger like that before you get him on the back foot. You have to be very respectful of that kind of power slowly getting used to it. Crazy stuff…

Posted June 9, 2013 7:04 pm 


B Red

Lefhook, I guess he was trying to prove a point, but it was stupid strategy. Chad suffered to kos in row, i think its time for him to re evalute his career.

Posted June 9, 2013 6:57 pm 


lefhook

HIPSTER…Put the bottle down mate n go straight to bed… lol

Posted June 9, 2013 6:54 pm 


HIPSTER

Stevenson may be the best P4P in boxing right now. I truly believe he could beat Froch, Kessler, Ward and Hopkins! I would have mentioned PAC but now that he’s off the juice he’s not even top 5.

Posted June 9, 2013 6:44 pm 


lefhook

B red, Dawson committed suicide last night, why the fck did he come out aggressive trying to push that guy back? One of the worst set of tactics I’ve wver seen from such a good experienced champion. Dawson IS WAY BETTER THAN THAT LAST NIGHT.

Posted June 9, 2013 6:40 pm 


lefhook

Duran… Get 2 fck u clown….

Posted June 9, 2013 6:37 pm 


SREDMOND

Dawson can get back with Floyd Sr and it won’t matter when guys start changing trainers like that they are usuall experiencing unrest of their own..Dawson has had 10 trainers that’s crazy, clearly Chad is Chads problem he is a very talented fighter but there has always been something missing and now his confidence is likely shattered, he was knocked down 3x and forced to quit against Ward, then stopped in the 1st round by a late bloomer coming up from 168… He will be hard pressed to become a force after this ..

Posted June 9, 2013 6:13 pm 


Stevie-J

First up it has to be Stevenson Bellew as its his mandatory. The winner should take on Pascal provided as expected he beats Bute.

The winner of Steveson/Bellew/Pascal should make a unification match up against Cleverly provided he’s still Champ.

Posted June 9, 2013 6:06 pm 


Jay rock

Chad has to go back mayweather sr or its over lol

Posted June 9, 2013 6:03 pm 


B Red

Wtf is going on? Is Boxtra and Correctumundo the same person or different people. Seem like some kind of personality disorder

Posted June 9, 2013 5:55 pm 


Boxtradamus

Bring on Froch vs Stevenson. FROCH WINS by TKO in 9th ROUND!

Posted June 9, 2013 5:50 pm 


Boxtradamus

But in all respect if I am the GREATEST, CORRECTAMUNDO is definitely Second BEST as the a budding GENIOUS on ESB!. He REMINDS me as MYSELF coming up in fufilling my PROPHECY!!

Posted June 9, 2013 5:47 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Chad needs to either get back to Floyd Sr. or hang em UP. The experiment without him has miserably FAILED.

Posted June 9, 2013 5:47 pm 


Boxtradamus

CORRECTAMUNDO Is just another wannabe Me. He may be CORRECT but the fact is I am the GREATEST fight PROPHET ever BORN and being the GREATEST is BETTER than being CORRECT!!! MAIN difference is I PREDICT the WINNER and HOW they will win versus correctly picking the favorite each time!

Posted June 9, 2013 5:43 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

LMFAO!

Posted June 9, 2013 5:42 pm 


Predictatdingo

I predict that CORRECTAMUNDO will be a W@NKER for the rest of his life.

The rest of ESB can AGREE with MY prediction and have victory cigars as they realise I am right AGAIN.

Posted June 9, 2013 5:09 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

GOOD luck to you in the future.

Posted June 9, 2013 4:54 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I SAID Dawson was DONE IF he didn’t go back to Floyd Sr. and I was CORRECT. When you get stopped in the FIRST round that’s IT buddy. We THANK you for participating.

Posted June 9, 2013 4:53 pm 


Martin

I want to see Stevenson versus Cleverly. If that fight is made, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Cleverly does to Stevenson what Calzaghe did to Lacy.

Posted June 9, 2013 4:52 pm 


ICantBox

Poor Chad…

On the bright side, his name still fits. He can still use “BAD” Chad Dawson, its just not the good bad.

Posted June 9, 2013 4:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Ernie guys NEVER look prime when they LOSE that does not mean they are not in it…A man in his physical prime gets no passes for losses and Dawson’s no exception.. He has been broken by Ward and Stevenson from hence expectations of Dawson will be LOW… This is why GOONS hyping Canelo like a cant miss HOFER are pure amateurs to me…I remember how big even Floyd, Manny Steward and others were on Dawson and with some good reason… Canelo did not accomplish close to what Dawson did against World Class opposition.. Let’s see what he looks like in 3 years…

Posted June 9, 2013 4:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Stevenson is a guy with heavy hands and not a lot of skill he caught Dawson and left him on the floor, Dawson’s coming off a TKO loss where he was made to QUIT by a superior fighter.. Adonis technical skills leave much to be desired..

Posted June 9, 2013 3:52 pm 


SREDMOND

GGG was in the fighter meeting before the Rosado fight saying Wards Great possibly the best in the world but at this point he’s focused on guys at 154 and 160… GGG would get slaughtered by Ward he really has NO World Class experience even at 154 or 160 let alone facing the rightful 168 pound Ring Champ… Watch “2 days of Gennady Golovkin” his team says “they are NOT calling out Andre Ward”

Posted June 9, 2013 3:50 pm 


KT

Do you really think Ward would want anything to do with Stevenson, this is a job for Froch, Froch wuld beat him up, maximum of 5 rounds.

Posted June 9, 2013 3:17 pm 


Anonymous

Wasn’t Froch supposed to fight this guy? The whole Froch never ducks anyone is out the window. He ducked him and will continue to. Froch gets hit easily….this ain’t a good matchup for him…..or Kessler…..this IS A WARD FIGHT. Want to see it in Montreal. If Ward wins hopefully everyone STFU.

Posted June 9, 2013 3:14 pm 


Tomato Can

you give Duran a bad name. It’s too bad ESB puts up with fools like you.

Posted June 9, 2013 2:47 pm 


Patrick2

LOVE to see Stevenson vs Froch!!! Froch’s iron chin and will vs Stevensons’ big punch would be epic. Both guys can be easily hit and both go for the fences — it would be bombs away.

Posted June 9, 2013 2:12 pm 


huckster

Yuri!

Posted June 9, 2013 1:57 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

WHO cares IF my posts get skipped??? I picked Lara and Gamboa and I was CORRECT!!!! Thus my name is CORRECTAMUNDO!!!

Posted June 9, 2013 1:56 pm 


Bill

Another big win for Lemieux.

Posted June 9, 2013 1:31 pm 


The Kingslayer

That was great, the sweet KO combined with the over the top celebrating made my night.

Posted June 9, 2013 1:30 pm 


BEARS

You picked dawson buddy. We all seen u. Unfortuanetly there is no ammount of waffling, excuse making, or fabrications that will get u out of it. Any attempt to do so and ur back to “most delusional poster on east side”……..and u don’t want that tag buddy. Then ur viewed as more of an annoyance and your posts get skipped

Posted June 9, 2013 1:18 pm 


BEARS

Boxtradamus could change his name to “correct fight forecasting no more then the next guy”…….hopefully floyd can make some of correctemundos “christmas money” back for him like he described. Do u think correctemundo puts any money down on any fights?

Posted June 9, 2013 1:14 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I picked Lara and Gamboa and I was CORRECT!!! That’s why my name is CORRECTAMUNDO!!!!!

Posted June 9, 2013 1:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Some of you guys willingness to make excuses for boxers in their prime astounds me…Dawsons a professional athlete with accesss to modern training techniques and protocols… Whatever you bring to the ring, you have to win with..Dawson got in the ring with a 35 year old former 168 pounder and he got himself knocked out… There are no excuses just like there are no excuses for him losing to Ward… Whats he gonna claim, that he was 35 years old and lost 25 pounds like Roy Jones? I don’t even give Roy a pass and I’m a fan.. Making excuses for prime guys losing left and right is childish…

Posted June 9, 2013 12:44 pm 


Fish Eyes

Corrwrongamundo !

Posted June 9, 2013 12:34 pm 


BEARS

Boxtradamus/correctumundo……..tough luck………there isn’t anyone who calls right all the time. He’s back looking for some kind of excuse and when he can’t find a single excuse he might even get desperate and pretend he didn’t mae the posts. Its ben a terrible year for him. He’s gonna have 2 think of a third name now. Has gone from boxtradamus to correctumundo…….wha should the third name be?

Posted June 9, 2013 12:32 pm 


Tomato Can

I would pick Ward over Stevenson. Stevenson can crack, but there’s no way hes as rounded as Ward. He doesn’t have the experience or background that Ward has. He has an equalizer in punching power, but that won’t be enough for Ward, maybe Froch, and Kessler though as both guys are prone to getting countered and taking shots.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:29 pm 


BEARS

Ward vs stevenson would be NICE. My guess is ward wouldn’t dare.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:26 pm 


murderman

Stevenson vs ward? Think i will take stevenson. How bout yall? Opinions please

Posted June 9, 2013 12:19 pm 


maracho

Ward has a new apponant

Posted June 9, 2013 12:04 pm 


Patrick2

Dawson seemed completely UNfocused at the opening bell — like he was in the gym about to hit the heavy bag, not in a championship fight against a power puncher. He immediately narrowed the distance and left himself open. No popping jabs, no feeling out his opponent, he just started throwing punches while in range — like he was tempting fate. Weird! I think he has emotional issues he needs to deal with. Hopefully he’ll get his head together and return to the ring being the very solid fighter he can be/was.

Posted June 9, 2013 11:58 am 


Big Al

funny how ward was commentating and saying that dawson has the best legs as anyone Stevenson has fought, he’s not going to be able to land that shot at will. and then BOOM! he just landed it at will.

Posted June 9, 2013 11:47 am 


Fish Eyes

CORRECTAMUNDO

“Taking Dawson and Gamboa to BOOST my WINNING percentage yet again.”

Posted June 7, 2013 9:15 pm

Posted June 9, 2013 11:38 am 


Big Al

I don’t think Chad hurt himself by going down in weight as much as some people make out. I think what did him in was spending years fighting old men and then rematching them all over again. Tarver, Johnson, Hopkins. He grew lethargic, and when he was put in the ring with younger guys with snap and movement, he was lost. With Chad, he had so many other problems (legal fights, trainer changes, etc.) but he simply had no answer to quick movement and fast, strong hands. Consider that his 3 losses were to relatively young, quick, explosive guys. He’s the old man now and he can’t keep up. Even in the 30 secs before this fight ended, he looked off the mark.

Posted June 9, 2013 11:17 am 


Tomato Can

I’m not sure how anyone outside the fighter can come here and state they know for a fact that Chad didn’t adversely affect himself by going down to 168 pounds for the Ward fight… That being said, there’s no telling if any Version of Chad would have taken that shot any better, but maybe one that didn’t play with his weight may have avoided the first one. No telling.

Posted June 9, 2013 10:48 am 


powerhands

I agree with you iman. Dawson wasn’t in there with a Hopkins,tarver,or pascal. Adonis exploded early over dawsons jab. I never did like how Dawson put to much lean in his stance for his height. on top of his slow reflexes. I don’t know what happened to dude. It seems like he’s not thinking clearly. You got to think Chad. Move around the ring. Feel your man out first. you can be brave in many different ways.Ole boy caught eam.

Posted June 9, 2013 10:26 am 


Public Enemy

Dawson got punked.. it was pretty fk’d up and humiliating.. especially with all the prefight Macho antics..

Posted June 9, 2013 9:45 am 


Kyle

The Truth

Cleverly has a lot of great attributes going for him, still has to step up to prove he’s elite fighter in the division but I agree he’s at the age where going to start peaking soon in every area.

Rumours are that he is due to fight Koralov next, if that is true props to him coz he doesn’t have to and Koralov can really bang.

If Cleverly comes through that then we may start to see that the kid is the real deal.

Bellew can punch hard but doesn’t have a great chin, plus he struggles with southpaws. I wouln’t be surprised if Stevenson iced Bellew in the 1st same as Dawson.

Posted June 9, 2013 9:44 am 


Jay rock

Ward took a lot out if him

Posted June 9, 2013 9:02 am 


The truth

Bellew’s overrated power Stevenson at 35 if you can take him into the 5th round you will have a good chance of beating him ..Cleverly will beat the both of them at 26 years of age he’s gonna start to peak soon !!! and is the future of his division ..

Posted June 9, 2013 8:48 am 


powerhands

I would like to see Adonis against good ring generalship. Since he has this punching power, what about his stamina?

Posted June 9, 2013 8:32 am 


lman

The way Dawson was fighting he wasnt giving Stvenson any respect as though he was fighting a feather fisted guy, he walked right into that one poor guy, and that shot from Stevenson, wow, even with his feet firmly planted when the punch connected it still jolted him backwards from the momentum

Posted June 9, 2013 8:16 am 


SREDMOND

Dawson was not drained against Ward that’s simply the natural excuse he was gonna use, next we will hear an excuse about what happened last night.. The ONLY question is WHICH excuse because boxing is being ruined by them… Dawson’s a prime aged fighter if these are the results he’s getting he should be judged accordingly…

Posted June 9, 2013 8:14 am 


SREDMOND

Dawson’s finished he has been knocked out 2x in a row… Ward ruined that dude what’s his excuse gonna be now? He gained weight? He got drilled by a guy wh was supposed to be a soft touch… It’s a WRAP

Posted June 9, 2013 8:12 am 


Dyslectic1

Bad Chad should have never parted ways with Mayweather SR, he has not looked the same since.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:54 am 


Anonymous

Maidana is 1 of the most overrated fighters in the game, Lopez had him in the 4th, he was definitely badly hurt.

Posted June 9, 2013 7:30 am 


RAYGORDON REID

WOW

Posted June 9, 2013 7:10 am 


Lion Roars

Bellew was given it the big un last nt on Sky, says he’s happy to fight Stevenson in his backyard and he’ll go toe to toe with him. Says he won’t back down and lets see who comes out on top.

Bellew laying the gauntlet down to Stevenson…..

Posted June 9, 2013 6:51 am 


Walt K

@big ham,

Have respect for Stevenson. This guy made his class and the time where he was a pimp’ s bodygard is over since a long time. He made his time in jail and now, since he decided to get serious in the sport, he stay out of troubles.

Salut Adonis !

Posted June 9, 2013 6:10 am 


lenzo

Dawson wiould never eat one until Nard taught him to play nice. The training was so off-kilter that Dawson would never recover. The angles gave nightmares before he walked into the ring. Dawson was done when he left the ring long ago, and Stevenson is nothing more than a pawn to further the executioner and his legacy…. love vegas

Posted June 9, 2013 5:10 am 


Anonymous

Bellew was talking on sky last night like he was next in line to fight the winner as a mandatory,hope that one comes off,Tony says he’s willing to travel probably so there aren’t that many scousers see him get KOd,I don’t know that much about Adonis TBH but if he has a suspect chin Bellew might test it.

Posted June 9, 2013 5:08 am 


huckster

wow

Posted June 9, 2013 5:00 am 


Eleanore the Hag

That punch that iced Big Bad Chad didn’t even land flush,he is finished .

Posted June 9, 2013 4:10 am 


Alan Partridge

Stevenson is garbage.

GYM are gonna have him defend against cans in Canada (maybe one “superfight” vs Pascal if you can call it that).

Expect Stevenson to avoid Kovalev and Cleverly.

Dawson was put down several times by Ward, who the hell does Ward put down once? Never mind several times. Draining weight last year has permanently ruined his punch resistance, Stevenson wasn’t knocking out cans as quickly as Dawson, Dawson is finished.

Posted June 9, 2013 4:10 am 


meja

lol Reading

Posted June 9, 2013 3:46 am 


meja

Missed this fight. Can’t believe am readying that Dawson was iced in 1 round.

Posted June 9, 2013 3:46 am 


gray

stevemson vs pascal anyone?

Posted June 9, 2013 3:43 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Adonis got KNOCKED OUT in 2010 by an absolute tin can with 21 career losses and an embarrassing 18% KO ratio. His chin is vulnerable and suspect. Kovalev has NEVER been stopped or beaten, so to assume it’s nonsense that he’d be competitive vs. Adonis reveals your lack of boxing knowledge. I’m one of the very few who said Adonis would KO Sad Chad, so don’t tell me I need to “learn some boxing.” I’ve never once seen your name on ESB before, so who the F are you anyway?

Posted June 9, 2013 3:41 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Just goes to show how terrible LHW has been for years compared to SMW…And i’m trying not to take anything away from Stevenson …I was one of those who thought he should get a shot at Froch after the Kessler fight….But now that he’s seen the state of the div. and have a belt I think he stays there …Just like Bute prolly will….Good for LHW that they get a little talent.

Posted June 9, 2013 3:39 am 


puglife

Stevenson Cane be out boxed there’s no mystery there . Though Adonis hits like a mule kicks, coupled with some amateur experience that he has built on will be one to watch. Know the match ups need to be made,just keep him away from oldman Hopkins .

Posted June 9, 2013 3:30 am 


Kev

I’m hearing Dawson got knocked out in sparring by Edison Miranda – that’s not a good sign. Nobody with a quality skill set should be getting knocked out by Miranda these days – fight or sparring.

Posted June 9, 2013 3:25 am 


Zenon

Meant puncher my bad!

Posted June 9, 2013 3:07 am 


Zenon

So now Dawson is done as a fighter?? Ward destroyed him at a drained weight so anybody would have knocked dawson out tonight? Learn some boxing…Stevenson has rythm and power hungry and in shape he would be the first to stop Froch!! And please this Kovalev nonsense he would destroy him so that leaves Hopkins won’t happen and Ward , Ward brings no money and he don’t fight out of oakland. Who is the lineal LightHeavy weight Champion of the world? Who will get 22,000 and maybe more if it is at the Olympic stadium in montreal?? it sure as hell ain’t grabbin maulin Ward and if that fight happens I know Adonis he is a strong mf!! So instead of knocking down Dawson enjoy the purest boxer in the sport today!

Posted June 9, 2013 3:06 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

B Red: Because all the top dogs have been ducking him for nearly two years and he’s been having an extremely hard-time getting fights. Just go to YouTube and you’ll find videos of Team Golovkin calling-out all the champs from 154 to 168lbs. Mack and Rosado are a few of the only fighters with the sack to step-up. Huge fan of Canelo, Maravilla and Ward, but this includes them as well. Real Talk.

Posted June 9, 2013 3:05 am 


Zenon

Bring on Kovalev he is easy to hit Adonis will crush him!

Posted June 9, 2013 2:58 am 


Zenon

I have met Stevenson a few times and exchanged with him (mercifully not in the ring) a good guy who got his life straight and who is getting a lot of guys straight..I mean streched!! He had a very bad car accident a year and a half ago that delayed his career I will say this now to paraphrase Emanuel Steward, Superman is the heviest puncher in boxing today, he is the new Tyson!

Posted June 9, 2013 2:56 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Sad Chad is done. He might as well hang ‘em up now so he doesn’t have to suffer any further humiliation (e.g., loss to Cloud, 2nd loss or Pascal, or brutal KO at the hands of Kovalev The Krusher). I’ve always said that this fool is overrated. R.I.P. to a nice career during a time when the Light HW division was dead. He will be missed in the same way as poor Paul Williams.

Posted June 9, 2013 2:55 am 


Truth Teller

Dawson is done as an elite fighter. Shame too because he is a gifted athlete and skilled but something isn’t right with his psyche. He has now been stopped in his last two fights. He should either retire or take a year off to get his head right and see if he can recover mentally from being ko’d. As for Ward being scared of Stevenson…I don’t think that is the case. Stevenson has serious power but he also has a lot of holes in his game that can be exploited. Everyone thought Edison Miranda was just gonna walk through everybody 5-6 years ago because his power was scary, but look at him now.

Posted June 9, 2013 2:53 am 


B Red

Squared Circle, Why wont triple G fight some real comp? Ya dig.

Posted June 9, 2013 2:48 am 


The Truth

Ward wont budge from 168 and Chad is done period .

Posted June 9, 2013 2:42 am 


B Red

Just seen the replay on you tube, Chad is done period. He has falling into the Roy Jones and soon to be Pac syndrome.

Posted June 9, 2013 2:39 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

I like Ward a lot, but the TRUTH is that he doesn’t want any part of Adonis, Triple G or Sergey Kovalev. GGG called him out face-to-face in a televised conference before the Rosado fight and Ward responded by saying: “I’m just listening.”

Posted June 9, 2013 2:22 am 


Cheese Cake

@Publicenemyisdumb – I pity you.

Posted June 9, 2013 2:21 am 


Tark

I knew it all along

Posted June 9, 2013 2:18 am 


Publicenemyisdumb

Just show’s how over Hype Ward is if it took him 11 rounds to Ko a weight drain Dawson and Andonis does it in one punch at 175 pounds not a weak 168 pound Dawson

Posted June 9, 2013 2:12 am 


GUMBOOT

Badger, you are a retarded twat!

Posted June 9, 2013 1:59 am 


Big Ham

Did anyone notice Dawson venonmously protested the stoppage as did his trainer? Almost like Zab judah style. He was talking bad to the ref.

Posted June 9, 2013 1:58 am 


Big Ham

So bad it embarrassed Andre Ward and took a little shine off his performance against Dawson. I’ve seen Stevenson a few times and i thought he was pretty explosive and was interested to see how he would do against a step up in competition. I want to watch the fight again, the punch looked and sounded good in real time. But when i saw it in slow motion it actually did not look that hard based on the impact on Dawson’s head. Dawson has a soft chin. No Doubt. Anyways Adonis the Pimp Stevenson is in the mix now.

Posted June 9, 2013 1:56 am 


Big Al

I keep thinking back to one of Joe Calzaghe’s last fights on HBO, Max Kellerman was interviewing Joe with the stadium speakers on and instead of helping him bring down the curtain on a great career, Max asked him if he would ever face Bad Chad Dawson.

HBO messed up by firing Larry Merchant before Max Kellerman.

Posted June 9, 2013 1:47 am 


Ray Ray

Madiana vs Mayweather or pacman ands gd 2 me… Dawson, wow. What’s nxt 4 Chad.

Posted June 9, 2013 1:46 am 


Big Al

I wanted to like Dawson before the Pascal fight, but he just didn’t have it in him. Seemed stubborn as hell too. Not a good sign that he changed trainers after each fight.

Posted June 9, 2013 1:23 am 


Hidalgo

There’s a shock. Well, they don’t call him Adonis for nothing. :)

Posted June 9, 2013 1:08 am 


badger

great to see an American being laid flat by a Canada based boxer. metaphor for how weak America is with its lame leader. go canucks.

Posted June 9, 2013 1:02 am 


MTLKO83

What’s up Montreal????? I was there, I saw it. Chad Dawson is nothing. Bring anybody. Carl Froch, Kessler, Ward, Hopkins… DOESNT MATTER! THey will all end up on the canvas! KTFO people is what Adonis does. Continue talking about ypur Groves and DeGale, Cleverly… They’re fresh meat for my man! Respect the champ

Posted June 9, 2013 12:57 am 


MTLKO83

People on this site(americans and english)were laughing about adonis stevenson yesterday. I TOLD YOU BEFORE EVERYBODY! Thank you! HE got KTFO and that’s exactly what i said would happen on this thread and people laughed. You know nothing about boxing. I know i do. 3000$ baby . lol

Posted June 9, 2013 12:54 am 


Tomato Can

I would like to ask Lopez who hits harder Canelo or Maidana?

Posted June 9, 2013 12:42 am 


Tomato Can

Nice job by Maidana! Lopez is too tuff for his own good…. Grab the guy, or take a knee for gods sake! Maidana’s seems to be getting better, he’s got the hammer. I’m not sure where that leaves lopez. But I know Ortiz, doesn’t want anymore of Maidana. Sooo, does that mean Maidana may get a crack at Mayweather, win or lose to Canelo.? ….Cheers to a nice night of fights….

Posted June 9, 2013 12:39 am 


TARK

Boxtradamus is full of crap again as usual.. Dawson was his pick.. Now he’ll just say Ward destroyed Dawson and would do the same for Stevenson.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:39 am 


The Truth

I would think Lopez should be able to handle anything Maidana has. TC

Posted June 9, 2013 12:37 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

I knew not to right Maidana off. I love these Argie fighters lol

Posted June 9, 2013 12:36 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Yes MK.. Stevenson’s power poses problems for anyone though

Posted June 9, 2013 12:35 am 


Tomato Can

nice little fight here.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:32 am 


MK

Before the fight, my thinking was that the boxer, in this fight (the boring boxer) ought to win over a man who hadn’t been on that level before.

Now Dawson was humiliated again, and seems to be done.

Dawson was never that exciting, but he sure did make bad decisions, regarding fights lately, I agree with that.

Stevenson can forget about taking the Smw or Lhw crowns, he beat Dawson, who came of a terrible fight, thats it.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:31 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

It’s certainly looking that way at the moment. Good fight though.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:30 am 


Tomato Can

It’s looking like Lopez is going to be too much fro Maidana. I kind of thought so, but it’s still early.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:30 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Better than he was against Devon Alexander for sure. He was awful that night

Posted June 9, 2013 12:26 am 


Tomato Can

Gonzo, yes Lopez is the bigger fighter for a change. Lopez can take some punishment. Both those things may end up paying off for him tonight.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:25 am 


Tomato Can

Is Maidana getting better? it’s looking that way.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:23 am 


Tomato Can

Lopez is looking like he’s made to order for Maidana.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:21 am 


Tomato Can

never mind

Posted June 9, 2013 12:19 am 


Iceferg

Not suprised. I thought the move down would have ruined Dawson. Not taking anything away from Stevenson but that was just my thinking on the fught.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:19 am 


Tomato Can

I would think Lopez should be able to handle anything Maidana has.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:17 am 


Tomato Can

Lopez, must be happy. he’s finally got a guy his size in there. But he’s already getting hit.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:16 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Maidana time!! Viva Argentina!!!

Posted June 9, 2013 12:14 am 


Tomato Can

You can’t get them all right. But if Chad would have kept Stevenson on the end of his Jab, he would have given him a lot of problems. But Stevenson proved he has the type of eraser that could have been landed at any time during the fight. That dude does hit hard/ Manny Steward supposedly said Stevenson was the hardest puncher p4p he had ever trained. That’s enough for me. But before we all get excited, that doesn’t mean he’s the best fighter out there.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:14 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Brother Bears… Yes KOvalev is a beast.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:13 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

lol brother Mongrel.

I’ve always really liked Dawson, partially for his willingness to take the kind of risks a lot of his fellow top echelon US fighters so seldom do, namely travel outside the protective sanctuary of their homeland, but some of his decisions have been borderline retarded and his career is now in tatters as a direct result of them.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:12 am 


Anonymous

Dam,Andre ward destroyed Dawson, he’s a shot fighter, ever since he quit in the tenth round. that’s a wrap, hes done.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:10 am 


Tomato Can

Stevenson does hit like a truck, and Dawson may be done for the most part.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:10 am 


The Truth

Boxtradamus
Dawson has too much SKILLS for Stevenson. Dawson will be the WINNER.
Posted March 24, 2013 4:33 pm

CORRECTAMUNDO
Dawson has more SKILLS. Dawson will WIN it. He’s going to counter Stevenson into bolivian.
Posted May 22, 2013 9:04 pm

WRONG AGAIN!! It hasn’t been a good year for the self professed greatest prophet of all time. Hilarious!!!

Posted June 9, 2013 12:09 am 


Tomato Can

Well, Chad got caught by a huge punch. It happens, but that wasn’t good for his career at all.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:09 am 


aliviu

Ward doesn`t seem so great anymore, does he?

Posted June 9, 2013 12:07 am 


TARK

This is why Froch didn’t take the Stevenson fight when Adonis was his mandatory.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:06 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Unlike Dawson, Cloud and Pascal, Adonis has the balls to give Kovalev a shot. That will be absolute FIREWORKS and a guaranteed KO. Can’t wait!

Posted June 9, 2013 12:04 am 


BEARS

kovalev vs stevenson HUUUUUUUUUGGGGGEEEEE FIGHT!!!!! both bringing the power

Posted June 8, 2013 11:57 pm 


Mongrel

I do feel for Dawson though, he has been a good awkward technical operator for a long time, beating all there as to beat at LHW, albeit in boring style, and no one ever really took to him. The dude was the first man to hand Adamek an L. He didn`t duck, and he went hunting for opportunities.

He maybe suffered a little from having to take over from the glamour lot of Tarver-Jones Jnr-Toney, and now having the walking corpse Hopkins floating around his division out performing him.

He`s just always been a support act, and now he`ll never be a star

Posted June 8, 2013 11:56 pm 


BEARS

chads done. the future of this division is kovalev. i’ve been watching kovalev tape for the last hour. what a beast…..just folds dudes. i got kovalev to tune up anyone at light heavy. adonis, hopkins etc

Posted June 8, 2013 11:54 pm 


Tomato Can

WOW, that could be it

Posted June 8, 2013 11:48 pm 


GONZO OF BETHLEHEM

I’d like to see Froch vs Stephenson rather than Ward. Stephenson is the most devastating fighter since Tyson

Posted June 8, 2013 11:44 pm 


murderman

No surprise chad got ko’ed. Adonis has mad power! Hey can beat any lhw except hopkins. Hopkins will hold n hit him make it an ugly fight frustrate him n win ud. Chad needs to retire after 2 brutal ko losses!

Posted June 8, 2013 11:38 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

I feel bad for ‘Bad Chad’ but truth be told he’s not the sharpest tool in the box. First he drains himself down to a weight he hasn’t fought at in 6 and a half years to take on Ward, and even worse, he even agrees to do so in Jokeland a place where Ward is allowed to fight to his own set of rules, and is so ridiculously drained he ends up getting stopped by a non puncher, then in his comeback he takes on one of the biggest punchers in the game, again in his opponent’s backyard. lol.

Posted June 8, 2013 11:36 pm 


The Prince

some

Posted June 8, 2013 11:27 pm 


The Prince

Great win by Stevenson. Chad needs to do so damage control now. The future of his career isn’t looking good.

Posted June 8, 2013 11:27 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Sad Chad just got KO’d! I told you guys!

Posted June 8, 2013 11:25 pm 


Gambi

Gamboa,,,,Otro Pendejo mas!!!! Stovepipe Boxer, He was also floored in his prior fights, time to Cherry Pick!!!

Posted June 8, 2013 11:16 pm 


Tomato Can

What a painful fight that was.

Posted June 8, 2013 11:13 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Perez just knocked Gamboa down! And the totally incompetent Ref ruled it a slip. That clown should be FIRED on first thing on Monday morning.

Posted June 8, 2013 11:01 pm 


Cheese cake in Montreal

Why dont you approach Gamboa in person and make those accusations of PED use

Posted June 8, 2013 10:54 pm 


Cheese cake in Montreal

Thats you

Posted June 8, 2013 10:52 pm 


Cheese cake in Montreal

This is the internet YOU FOOL not some bar or club LION KING lmao

Posted June 8, 2013 10:51 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Why don’t you use your REAL handle/name, little coward?

Posted June 8, 2013 10:46 pm 


Cheese cake in Montreal

You just jealous Square Circle Cuz Gamboa is everything you never been !

Posted June 8, 2013 10:34 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

I used to like Gamboa before we found out that he’s just another cheating Roid-Boy. Dudes looks like prime Tyson’s mini-me.

Posted June 8, 2013 10:31 pm 



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