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dane 99

what a great time in this division .as for geale getting found out i think the opposite he is a top class professional like martinez and pirog and quillin i think some others like great amature gelovkin are going to get found out

Posted September 4, 2012 9:27 am 


Spot on – as for suggestions Geale could not handle Barker or Macklin, I find that a bit of a stretch too.

Posted September 4, 2012 7:34 am 


Martin Murray’s gonna have to make a decision soon. Either defend the British title or relinquish it (without winning a Lonsdale belt out-right). no one’s sure who’s the #1 & 160LB in the UK right now. It could be Murray, as mentioned Darren Barker, Mathew Maklin or up & coming Commonwealth champion Billy Joe Saunders. (who if handled correctly could be the best of the lot) Craig McEwen vs Kerry Hope is a fight I’d like to see with the vacant Celtic title on the line. Looking at the future John Ryder, Chris Eubank JR & Lancashire’s Mark Heffron(deserving of a Central Area title, but gone quiet) could all contest interesting battles & be in the equation for English & British title fights in the future.

Posted September 4, 2012 4:48 am 


I don’t dispute Martinez and Geale’s abilities, I like both fighters a lot.
But you can’t dismiss Golovkin’s technical abilities… they’re subtle but they’re definitely there. Just because he is a forward moving fighter doesn’t mean he’s not exceptionally gifted both in terms of power and technique. You simply don’t have an amateur career like his unless you’re technically adept.
I know it looks like he just plods forward like a zombie, but it’s far from the reality. His foot positioning is near flawless and the subtle angle of his approach (and cutting off of the ring) is downright masterful. You don’t need to be a stick and move fighter to be technically gifted.

Sure he hasn’t been in against overly stiff competition (at least not in the pro ranks), but he was sidelined by management issues, then again by waiting for his mandatory with Sturm to be honoured since 2010 (which it never was). Pirog was supposed to happen, but Pirog got injured. Mundine was supposed to happen back in 2010 but Mundine ran away as fast as he could. So Golovkin can’t be blamed for his lack of competition… it’s not due to lack of trying.

Posted September 4, 2012 4:36 am 


Seriously, who has Golovkin fought? He has taken the bum route to a title and fought no one of significance since taking it. No doubt he is a strong puncher and a good fighter, but he has a slow plodding 1 dimensional style. Martinez and Geale are quick guys who can move, have real good defense (Ala Proksa no defense) and can punch and counter. IMO Martinez and Geale would simply be too tough and technical for Golovkin. Its easy to beat up a guy who comes at you holding his defense around his knees (Proksa), But Golovkin has never fought a fighter of Martinez and Geale’s caliber, and after Geale has won two belts away from home in Germany and Martinez is the clear number 1 in the middleweight division, i think it is Golovkin who will countinue to duck these guys and take on fringe contenders with significant style deficiencies and lack of ability.

Posted September 4, 2012 1:32 am 


Daniel Geale won 2 world titles the hardest way you can in boxing. He hides from no one. Will any middleweight have the balls to travel to Australia and challange him? I dont think so.

Posted September 4, 2012 1:02 am 


Geale beat Sturm. Sturm drew Macklin. How would Geale get found out against Macklin. You make it sound like there is a massive gulf in class between Geale and Macklin. Martinez is No.1, Geale is No.2 holding 2 titles, Chavez Jr is about to get KO’ed, Golovkin hasn’t fought anybody.

Posted September 3, 2012 10:00 pm 


I believe Golovkin was essentially sidelined for a while when he was having managerial issues.
Then he had that long stretch waiting for Sturm to give him his shot (i.e. which was supposed to be Sturm’s mandatory fight since 2010!)

Posted September 3, 2012 9:48 pm 


Martinez is the true champ at 160. You can only have one champt and that is Martizez. Everyone else are just titlest

Posted September 3, 2012 9:48 pm 


I agree the middleweights are starting to look interesting, but the division lacks a true champion outside of Sergio Martinez.

With the sad retirement of Paul Williams, and Kelly Pavlik’s lackluster move to 168, the rest of the names at 160 really have to beat Martinez to prove themselves. I’ve re-watched the Barker, Macklin, and Dzinziruk fights recently. Of the three, only Dzinziruk was willing to engage with Martinez, and he got beaten badly for it. Macklin and Barker fared better by waiting for Sergio to come forward. But Maravilla still beat them by KO. Maybe age will catch up with Sergio, but I don’t think we’ve seen signs of it yet.

Andy Lee was always over-hyped by HBO, so catapulting Julio Caesar Chavez to #2 based on that win doesn’t speak well for the level of competition at 160. If JCC is able to take down Martinez, I hope he hangs around 160 long enough to provide a measuring stick for Golovkin and others. Taking the top spot without defending the (true) title will leave a lot of unanswered questions.

Posted September 3, 2012 9:28 pm 


I don’t see any kind of a points win for Chavez against Martinez. I see Martinez out maneuvering Chavez all night.

Posted September 3, 2012 9:08 pm 


Geale won’t avoid him. He twice travelled to germany to to win titles. BUT Geale is the champion, he has the leverage, would Golovkin be willing to travel to Australia to win the title?

Posted September 3, 2012 8:40 pm 

Pistol Pete

Something is wrong.Golovkin has been a pro since 2006 and he`s not a young prospect , he`s 30
years old and has fought nobody. Proska got busted up and bloodied by Welshman Kerry Hope and Kerry is not a big puncher.Golovkin needs to be tested . Let`s see him try to knock out Froch,Abraham or Sergio.

Posted September 3, 2012 8:05 pm 


Geale would get found out by Barker and Macklin??? Your kidding yourself arent you?

Posted September 3, 2012 7:53 pm 


All I know is from what I saw this dude is something serious and will cuase problems for many folks.

Posted September 3, 2012 7:47 pm 


Chavez beats Andy Lee and suddenly public opinion makes a seismic shift and recognizes that Jr. is no joke. Golovkin absolutely blows out a credible opponent (after beating Andy Lee in the amateurs) and everyone is too quick to hype 3G…?

Posted September 3, 2012 7:33 pm 


Anthony – finally someone who is calling it spot on! Max Kellerman and everyone is acting like this is a huge W for Golovkin. Truth is, even though he has a couple decent wins, Proksa is TERRIBLE!! Poksa can be described as tough, brave, even athletic, but clearly unrefined and defensively irresponsible. Anyone ever tell him to stop falling in with that ugly looping left…Amateurish!!!

Golovkin did look good against someone who is tough to look good against, BUT PROKSA PLEASE GET YOURSELF A TRAINER!!

Posted September 3, 2012 7:29 pm 

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