Keith Thurman tells Arum, ‘You’re not getting no discount’ for Crawford fight

Keith ‘One Time’ Thurman went off on Top Rank promoter Bob Arum on Thursday in reacting to him saying he couldn’t even find half of the $10 million that he wanted to challenge his fighter, Terence Crawford.

Arum revealed that the former WBA/WBC welterweight champion Thurman (29-1, 22 KOs) had his representative contact him recently to try and set-up a fight against WBO welterweight champion Crawford (37-0, 28 KOs).

According to Arum, he was waiting to hear back from Thurman’s rep after they had a conversation. Arum didn’t say he was rejecting putting together a fight between Thurman and Crawford.

The only negative thing Arum said is that he couldn’t find have of the $10 million that Thurman wanted when he first approached him for a fight with Crawford.

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What that means is that if Thurman wants to challenge Crawford, he’s going to have to accept far less than the $10M that he was asking for.

With the pandemic going on and the absence of audiences for events, it would mean that the only way a fight between Crawford and Thurman would sell is if they put it on pay-per-view. Would the fight sell on PPV?

Crawford has never shown himself capable of selling on pay-per-view in the past for his fights against Viktor Postol and Amir Khan, but who knows? Maybe Thurman would be a big enough name to bring in a lot of buys?

Thurman goes off on Arum

“F*** Bob Arum. Keep your mouth shut,” said Keith Thurman on social media in reacting to comments from the Top Rank promoter.

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“You want a cheap a** fight? I’ll punch you in your s***, how about that? That’s the only cheap s** s*** you’re going to get out of me. I’ll give you a free lick, boy.

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“Look man, I’m going to snap on Bob real quick. Bob, you’re a piece of s***. You’re one of the worst promoters in the game, okay? All of your great fighters left your a**.

“Oscar De La Hoya left your a**. Floyd Mayweather Jr left your a**. Manny Pacquiao left your a**. Did I miss anybody? Shoot, Crawford, he about to leave your a***.

“Bob, you know what’s up. You know I never ask for anything. It ain’t my fault you can’t afford a great fight. You cheap as s***,” said Thurman

Even though Thurman is coming off a loss to Manny Pacquiao and a nearly two-year layoff, he’s still arguably more popular than Crawford.

Moreover, he would be by far the most talented guy that Crawford has been matched against during his 13-year professional career.

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If Arum takes a chance on paying Thurman the money he wants for the Crawford fight, it could pay off. Thurman would do all the promotional work to create interest in the fight, just as he did for his last match with Pacquiao.

The success of that fight was entirely due to Thurman’s work in giving countless interviews and working tirelessly to get boxing fans interested in the match.

Obviously, Crawford wouldn’t do much to create interest in a fight with Thurman because he’s no reserved laid back, and shy to do the trash-talking that would be needed to fans interested.

It would be better to keep Crawford in the background and let Thurman, Arum and one of the other Top Rank guys do all the marketing for the fight.

Crawford can’t make any money – Thurman

“You can barely afford to pay your own fighters good money. That ain’t my fault.

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“You got ESPN backing you, you got Terence Crawford, one of the most talented welterweights in the welterweight division, and you can’t get him paid.

“You can’t make him famous enough. You got Max Kellerman [ESPN commentator] sipping on all the Crawford juice, and I love Crawford too.

“He’s a great fighter since the amateurs, I love that boy. I love all my peers because we’re the real ones. Bob, what did $2 million dollars buy you for your last fight?

“A bull s**** a*** fight,” said Thurman in commenting on Crawford’s recent fourth-round knockout over past his best Kell Brook last November.

“Come on now, Bob. I speak that realness. Thurman ain’t no punk.

“You’re not going to knock me in the ropes, watch me curl up like a dog, the fight is over,” Thurman said.

At this point, it’s obvious that Crawford can’t make money, but that’s not on Arum entirely. A big part of it is on Crawford.

He’s not able to create interest in his fights with the hyping that is needed by fighters nowadays on social media and through interviews, press conferences.

Outside of the ring, boxing is theater and the fighters that do well have to be able to communicate in an entertaining way. Crawford lacks what it takes to be an exciting guy outside of the ring, and it’s hurt his career.

If Crawford had a personality like a young Muhammad Ali, Arum would be sitting on a gold mine right now.

Thurman: You ain’t getting me at a discount

“When is a Thurman fight over? Knocked down body shot,” Thurman continued. “Fought with injuries, hurt hand, hurt elbows.

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“Me and Shawn Porter were Showtime’s fight of the year [in 2016]. Me and Danny Garcia was a great fight [in 2017], and I fought him with bone spurs.

“Me and [Manny] Pacquiao was a very exciting fight, and I fought him almost one-handed, okay?

“Now, you mad because of the PBC opponents, you can’t afford a PBC fighter. You can’t afford us, Bob. I’m sorry, alright?

“You cheap, you want discounts. I know it’s COVID, I know it’s hard out here in the streets. We all feel it, we all know it, you know what I’m saying?

“But you ain’t going to get me on no discount. You ain’t going to pay no full price, but you ain’t getting no discount.

“Look, Bob, stop talking s***, alright? You’re a horrible f**** promoter. You got all this talent, and you can’t do s*** with it, alright?

“PBC, we make money together, alright? We make money together.

“You wouldn’t have a dime in your bank account if it wasn’t for all the Mexicans, Africans, Filipinos, and all the other ethnicities that you ever worked with throughout your whole career, alright?

“And then you don’t want to pay people. This is world-class boxing. You can’t afford a world-class fight?” said Thurman.

Well, it’s pretty clear that if Thurman wants to fight Crawford, he’s going to have to accept less than $5 million, and it might be as low as the $2 million that Kell Brook received recently.

It’s unclear how much Thurman got for his last fight against Manny Pacquiao, but I’d be willing to guess that it was a heck of a lot more than $2 million.

Thurman tells Arum: “You can’t afford me”

“You got ESPN backing you. They ain’t got no money, Bob?” ‘One Time Thurman said. “Man, look, stop talking s***, alright?

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“There ain’t going to be no [Crawford vs. Thurman] fight. You can’t afford it. You offered Shawn Porter $1 million dollars [for the Crawford fight].

“What’s $1 million dollars after taxes? $600,000? Man, get the f*** out of our face, Bob. Get the f*** of our faces, alright?

“You can barely help Crawford make any money. He’s one of the best fighters you’ve had for years.

“He can’t make no money. Man, look. I don’t need no $10 million dollars, but I need some respect, and the respect comes in a check, alright.

“It’s not my fault that I’m the opponent, and I’m worth more money than your undefeated champion [Crawford]. Your undefeated welterweight champion.

“That ain’t my fault. That’s your fault, Bob. That’s evidence of you doing a s**** a** job [promoting], Bob. Man, stop talking s***, Bob,” said Thurman.

If Thurman is looking for more than $5 million, then it’s true, Arum can’t afford him.

The likely only way Arum could come up with that kind of money is if he makes Thurman the A-side in the promotion, which probably won’t please Crawford too much.

I don’t think Crawford realizes that belts don’t matter in this era in boxing. The A-side fighters are the ones that sell tickets, bring in high ratings and pay-per-view buys. Thurman ticks every box in those categories.

Keith ready to fight everybody

“Terence Crawford wanted to fight me last year, okay?” Keith Thurman said. “Terence Crawford wants to fight Shawn Porter.

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“Terence Crawford wants to fight Keith Thurman. Terence Crawford wants a great fight.

“Your f**** promoter can’t afford it, Terence, alright? He can’t put a good show for you. There’s no good show.

“That’s right, f*** Bob. Anybody that wants to write the check and see some world-class fighting and world-class boxing, that’s me, baby.

“That’s what I bring to the table every day of the week. I breathe this. I’m about that life, I’ve always been about that life, since seven-years-old, baby.

“I’m one of the best fighters in the world, today, tomorrow, yesterday,  I will be one of the greatest. If you don’t want to make great fights, Bob? That’s on you.

“That’s on you and your cheap a** wallet, Bob. You understand? You and your cheap a** wallet. You can’t afford greatness, you just can’t.

“I don’t care who I fight. Thurman vs. everybody. That’s just how it is, man. 2021, come back season.

“I ain’t gone nowhere. I don’t even got to come back, but they’re going to get that wrath. They’re going to get that spartan in me. This is spartan, baby.

“They going to get it. Look, man, all I want to do is do my best. I’ve been through a lot of things.

“I’ve been through a lot of injuries. I’m finally feeling good. New hair, I don’t care. New energy, we’re in this. Thurman vs. Crawford is fire, yes sir. Fire.

“They [Top Rank] can’t afford it. They can’t put up a respectful number to make something happen, you know? We don’t need $10 million, Bob.

“We don’t need it. We just need some respect, baby. You don’t have to pay full price, but you ain’t going to get no discount, either,” said Thurman.

Errol Spence Jr has already said no to a fight against Thurman, and it looks there’s no chance of him getting a fight with Crawford either.

Thurman might have to look at rematches with Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter as options for his next fight. It’s unclear how much Thurman would get fighting those guys, but probably not the big money that he received for his last fight with Manny.

9 thoughts on “Keith Thurman tells Arum, ‘You’re not getting no discount’ for Crawford fight”

  1. Keith “Takes His Time” Thurman ought to get back in the ring and try to show that he has relevance again. His once every two years fighting strategy but constant flapping of his gums shows exactly who he is.

    • This old swindler. The likes of Don King. Should be sharing the money. Should have a spot on all major networks. Should be ten times the promoter, more than Eddie Hearn or Al Haymon. Why not? Because of greed.

  2. Anybody with half a brain, can see the way he’s talking about Bob Arum. He DOESN’T want to fight “Bud” Crawford. LMAO.

  3. Well Keith, what’s 0% of $10 million??? That’s exactly what you’ll be getting with your current attitude! Spence won’t fight you because you ignored him when he was a contender. Pacman just beat you and there certainly no demand for a rematch. So that leaves you with Crawford as your best bet for a title shot. Arum may be a lot of things but he’s not stupid enough to blatantly lose money. After the Pacman loss and no titles your worth has declined, pretty simple. In today’s market a title shot with a $2 million payday coming off a loss and long period of inactivity is a pretty good deal.

    The way you’ve just run your mouth I’d leave you well alone if I was Bob Arum.

  4. Keith “no time” Thurman, time has passed you by, you are no longer an elite fighter and your boring.You want your mouth to earn your money, sorry losing to Manny put you way down the list of must see fighters

  5. Keith “One Time Thurman speaks some truth in his comments, but he best clean his garbage, disrespectful mouth up. He makes himself look like a fool when he starts running his mouth like that. If he keeps talking, Manny might just get at him again and brutalize him worse. The problem Arum, Thurman and the rest of the top welterweights have is Terence “Bud Crawford’s Inability to sell a fight. He’s done nothing but take on easy cherry picks his ENTIRE career. Go look at his resume and you will agree with me. There’s not one signature fight on his record after 37 professional fights. He’s been exposed against guys like Gamboa that was a 5’4 feather weight that hit, hurt and wobbled him like he was in an earthquake, little Gamboa did that. Most recently, he was hit, hurt and dropped by some guy named Kavilauskas that had never even gone 10 rounds in his career. His only PPV fighters were awful and sunk to the bottom losing millions for Arum.
    Keith Thurman says it’s not his fault that Crawford can’t sell, and he’s right. Crawford re-signed with Arum to solely fight the easy fights for the easy money, which is now very clear. He knew the deal and consequences, but acts like no one wants to fight him, LOL! LOL! LOL! Terence Crawford doesn’t even want to help sell his own fights. Arum said he’s too difficult to deal with and has turned down all the big fights. The blame lies on Crawford.
    Keith Thurman wants to be paid and he should. Thurman has a much better resume than Crawford, and he’s a much bigger attraction. He knows how to sell a fight win or lose, and he has courage to fight anyone, and has the right to ask for big money. He’s fought Danny Garcia, Shawn Porter and the Greatest Fighter in History, Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao. Crawford has fought no one and probably never will because as Arum says, Crawford loses money for him. He said he’s lost enough money to buy a mansion in Beverly Hills, and that’s a lot of money.

    The writer says “I don’t think Crawford realizes that belts don’t matter in this era in boxing. The A-side fighters are the ones that sell tickets, bring in high ratings and pay-per-view buys. Thurman ticks every box in those categories.” Crawford doesn’t check off any box because he’s pretty much an unknown in the country and throughout the world. He should have taken a risk. He should have taken on Manny for 7 million he turned down, now it will cost Arum $20 million, which is Cheap, and will Cost Arum 5 million and up to fight Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, Mikey Garcia and Shawn Porter. Terence “Bud” Crawford is on an island all by himself. Why didn’t he learn from all those before that signed with Arum? Why did he go for the easy money? This is a truly wasted talent.
    Terence is 33 years old and past his prime. His chin is as soft as a Pringles Chip. He’s never been in a serious tough fight (Thurman/Pacquiao, Spence/Porter, Pacquiao/Margarito, Pacquiao/Bradley, Pacquiao/Morales, Pacquiao/Ped Man Marquez etc). Crawford must find a way to get in the mix and fight
    Errol the “Truth” Spence, Virgil Ortiz or Jaron Ennis. Crawford needs to mix it up with those guys in order to be relevant in the welterweight division. He needs to fight these guys now or head towards retirement because the longer he waits, the chances get better that Crawford will end up getting knocked out cold. Keith “One Time” Thurman holds the Ace and will eventually get more big fights because he sells and is proven. Crawford is stuck!

    • You sound like he’s giving you PC! Why doesn’t Thurman earn a title shot with his fists so he won’t be ignored? Instead hes begging for a payday!! You got spanked by Pac-Man after talking hella shiite, seems Thurman is 75 & 0 with eighty kayos with his mouth!!! Less talk more fight Thurman I have lost all respect for you!!! Truth be told you’ve always been suspect in my book, your body of work defines you!! You’re a legend in your own mind!! Mayweather 2.0…STOP BEGGING!!!

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