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When did Froch beat Ward for the WBA Belt?

Posted April 5, 2014 11:57 pm 

Jody McNeil

Who’s Michael Bailey? What is he talking about?

So the fact Carl Froch has faced a plethora of different fighters means he has an advantage over Groves? Carl Froch has one gameplan, that’s come forward, he has never changed is game plan to suit his opponent so it makes no difference to Groves whether Carl has fought Arthur Abraham or a troll. The fact is he always comes to fight.

Posted March 30, 2014 12:50 pm 


Groves will win this time, and then the rubber match. This is about the money.

Posted March 28, 2014 11:25 am 

Brazilian Boxing Fan to Michael Bailey

2nd paragraph, 9th line.

“…when they face each other on 31st February 2014.”


Posted March 28, 2014 8:09 am 


We have seen the best of Groves in that fight,but he fought the worst of Froch….This fight Froch will up the anti……Groves can’t…HH Groves was no were near 8 rounds in front…..he had his hands down and turned away,that’s “hardly nothing”….Corrupt Ref who has form for bent fights……your drowning not waving

Posted March 28, 2014 4:32 am 

Ray Ray

What’s Froch getting even with Groves 4?

Posted March 28, 2014 2:32 am 

Ray Ray

Groves face after the fight was not that of a winner….good stoppage b4 getting murdered. So in this 2nd fight if Groves is getting a beating the refs going let it go longer? Not good.

Posted March 28, 2014 12:52 am 



I know you take a lot of stick on here and the reason is is because 99% of clowns that post here have not got a clue about the game.

So with that said, Froch was rescued by the ref, Groves should have been on his back, horizontal when the ref waved the fight off and Froch having built up a huge following undone his hard work with comments on the apron post-fight and then his avoidance in being the man after promising the rematch.

Froch has been strong-armed into the rematch because we all know Groves was done up like a kipper.

Froch and his people tried to sell Froch/Chavez Jnr and no one wanted to know and we all know why right ….

Posted March 27, 2014 11:07 pm 


HHLondon says.., “Go watch Froch/Taylor, Froch/Ward and tell me what round the ref should have jumped in and SAVED Froch?”

The referee should have jumped in a lot earlier to save Taylor… Froch was never hurt in the slightest—even though Taylor caught him with the best punch he ever threw.

Ward gave Froch a real drubbing… But no reason for a stoppage at any time… The idiot judges scored it a damned close fight, and the fight took place on American soil.

Groves hit Froch a lot harder than Taylor did.. Froch was hurt a little and in a little bit of danger.. but not as badly hurt as Groves was just prior to the stoppage.

It was obviously a premature stoppage.. But Froch was getting to Groves big time.. He was hammering GG like a punching bag and still threw a couple more as the ref grabbed Groves to save his ass..

Froch doesn’t like Groves … and it kind of comes across.

Posted March 27, 2014 10:23 pm 


DWC, Groves never went down, was not against the ropes, was 8 rounds in front, no knee, no nothing but a corrupt ref who has form for bent fights and the reason why we have the 2nd fight is because most were disgusted with the stoppage and those in charge no things need to be made right.

A fighter, 8 rounds in front gets a few digs, still on his feet in a championship fight, no cut, no knee, knockdown, no nothing and the ref stops it?

Go watch Froch/Taylor, Froch/Ward and tell me what round the ref should have jumped in and SAVED Froch?

Posted March 27, 2014 8:51 pm 


Groves will win, and there will be a third fight. Then Froch will retire.

Posted March 27, 2014 4:38 pm 


F.A…Well said.People act like Groves won the fight,yes prehaps it could have gone on abit longer but Groves was going down and staying down any minute if the ref didnt stop it when he did.Groves was doing a good job,but Froch caught up to him and broke him down.Lets see what happens now…should be good!!!

Posted March 27, 2014 4:22 pm 

Yankee Doodle

Kareem Abdul-Jabaar is an American. You must have great admiration.

You guys will ONLY fill a football stadium for Froch-Groves II. You never EVER did that before in 500 years of professional prize fighting. But this is the greatest fight in Brit history. It’s a special “domestic” night for the Brits, never to be duplicated ever again.

Maybe if Amir fought Brook.

Hah Hah, that’s as likely as Hatton-Witter was. It takes 2 to fight. Groves and Froch are both dead game, but you’ve got a lot of chickens like Amir and Ricky who don’t want to face off.

Posted March 27, 2014 4:12 pm 


Groves is no boxer. He takes as many punches as Froch and Kessler.

And not as well.

Posted March 27, 2014 3:57 pm 

Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

What are we doing right in the UK that our American cousins are doing wrong.You Yanks can only fill indoor arenas we can fill football stadiums not soccer stadium, football stadium.

Posted March 27, 2014 3:56 pm 


Groves should be the favorite – mostly everything is in his favor – momentum, youth, speed, skills, mental game, etc.

Froch cannot and will not change – he is a warrior, not a boxer and can only fight in the same old slow, brawling, block punches with the chin manner as before.

The beautiful thing is that his style is so bad that it makes it effective (not comparing, but Rocky Marciano was similar).

I think Froch will have to stop Groves to win and I only think he will do that if Groves knackers himself out again.

I’m rooting for Froch and I hope he has enough left in him to go to war and walk through fire one more time to win – but if I’m honest, I think he will lose on points.

Posted March 27, 2014 2:33 pm 


“Mikkel Kessler, Arthur Abraham and Andre Ward have all been opponents of Carl Froch, something that George Groves hasn’t experienced before.”

Something Groves hasn’t experienced before??? … And he won’t experience it now either… To my knowledge Groves hasn’t hired any of the above for sparring partners.

Actually… Groves has sparred extensively with Kessler—trying to get Kessler ready to beat Froch. This had the desired effect of pissing Froch off.. Groves wouldn’t predict a winner, because he didn’t think Kessler could win after sparring with the robot. Groves’ friend Nathan Cleverly also helped Kessler get ready for Froch. Cleverly doesn’t like Froch either.

They were both very jealous of Froch… which is completely understandable.

Posted March 27, 2014 2:28 pm 


Even by the this places standards that is a SHYTE article, was it written by a two year old. Gordon Bennett it’s bad.
As regards the actual fight, Froch and Groves have sparred many rounds together in the past, Froch knew what was coming and he also knew he couldn’t do anything about it too. Carl is unlikely to have improved any since the first contest, he’s still going to be as slow as molasses in winter, he’s still going to have no fundamental skills, he’s still going to telegraph his every punch, meanwhile Groves will almost certainly have improved he is after all approaching his peak where as Froch is on the other side of the mountain and heading down the slope. If Froch wins this, he makes a believer out of me I ‘ll tell you that!!!

Groves to win via stoppage before the sixth!

Posted March 27, 2014 2:11 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Headline is backwards. It’s Groves who needs to even the score with Froch, in case the author forgot who won.

Posted March 27, 2014 1:48 pm 

Thurmal Underwear

well get a ref that doesn’t have a pvssy this time.

Posted March 27, 2014 1:30 pm 

Bad Digestion

Groves should be happy it was stopped. He’s a young fighter with a bright future ahead of him, why wait till he gets knocked out cold? If you look carefully at the fight, he’s out on his feet and slumps into the refs arms. Only after 2-3 seconds he lifts his head and starts arguing the stoppage. Hard to say how the 2nd fight will play out, both men are real warriors and leave it all out there. I think Froch is just a bit too much for young Groves.

Posted March 27, 2014 12:13 pm 


personally this is a hard one to call… but i am edging towards Groves for the simple reason he has the tools that gives Froch problems, namely speed and movement. he has proven he has the power to trouble Froch likewise he did take some of Froch’s power shots before he was bussed and the premature stoppage. the only issue i have is Grove’s pacing and stamina… if he can work on these and improve these points… then i have him edging the fight if it goes the distance. On a blue print on how to beat Carl… speed and movement are a must… even though Taylor & Dirrell lost to Froch, they gave him problem… Taylor was winning the fight before he gassed out in the twelfth. Dirrell ran for the first six rounds… but once he started some kind of offence he started to win rounds (i know some think he won the fight). even though Grove’s is not in the same class as Ward… what would Froch do in a rematch?? Froch is hard as nails and works the full twelve rounds… what can he improve on? Speed, movement, and technics… for me he can’t improve any of these parts of his game to combat movement and speed… and against someone who is naturally stronger in these departments of ability?? but with the in mind… I do remember the Sebastiaan Rothmann v Carl Thompson fight… so maybe speed and movement have an equaliser?? I could be wrong… but I’m just edging Ginger Groves in the rematch.

Posted March 27, 2014 11:57 am 


Part of me thinks that Froch will be better prepared mantaly this time and fight a better, smarter fight but another part of me thinks that Groves has so completely got inside Froch’s head that Carl doesn’t which way is up! If I had to choose I’d say Froch would pull it out again but it’s a real toss-up and I’m jst looking forward to watching them rumble!!!

Posted March 27, 2014 11:35 am 

Froch beats up Groves

I am going to take your shots again and beat you up again, you can’t beat me, you can’t out think me, I am going hurt you this time, you ginger ct.

Posted March 27, 2014 10:41 am 


Whatever happened to professional journalism? This article is so strewn with grammatical errors, is so opinionated and vacuous it’s author should be ashamed. Our sport deserves better!

Posted March 27, 2014 10:00 am 


True indeed pinhead, very hard to call

Posted March 27, 2014 8:50 am 

Prof Konje

I agree with the writer for all of the same reasons. Froch knows what to expect this time and he has faced the best of the best at 168 lbs. Groves’ face didn’t look so good after the fight and Froch was coming on strong. The rematch will be a bad beat-down for Groves.

Posted March 27, 2014 8:50 am 


Froch knows there is a danger and so that is dangerous for Groves. Will age play a part……not so sure as Froch is always in shape and a very very hard man. Groves is a fabulous boxer and no pushover, fascinating stuff and hard to call.

Posted March 27, 2014 8:38 am 

Brazilian Boxing Fan

I hope Froch beats Groves again.

Posted March 27, 2014 8:31 am 

third world

inside the pocket ref. the question is,can groves get a fair shake? can he get up for a huge fight a second time or will his mind play tricks on him? froch is a tough cookie,a real champ,but i hope the kid brings it. i think carl wins.hope i’m wrong.

Posted March 27, 2014 8:28 am 


Mick, the rules were no standing 8 count as is standard in most fights these days. The ref can’t just make up the rules as he goes along.

Posted March 27, 2014 8:18 am 

Mick the Marmalizer

all said & done a good ref would have given Groves a standing 8 count & the contest would have continued. We’ll never know the outcome so there’s no point in discussing it. The ref panicked & that’s all there is to it!

Posted March 27, 2014 8:10 am 

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