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I agree with Frochy. Ryder is underrated. If he can get close enough to BJS he will tear him apart. Getting close is the problem. BJS keeps dancing and jabbing as instructed by Tibbs team. He is good at it and hard to hit. This is going to be Ryder’s problem as it was for Hall and O’sullivan.

Posted July 26, 2013 12:11 pm 


He’s onr of the best pure boxer’s the UK has but he might not have the fire-power to deter the top boys at 160, hopefully his power improves.

Posted July 23, 2013 3:20 pm 

Mick the Marmalizer

B.J.S sure does look to be the future @ 160Lb in the UK, but shouldn’t rush things. If he beat Ryder(which is not a foregone conclusion) I’d like to see him fight for the EBU title & if successful defend British, EBU + Commonwealth championships against Matthew Macklin, if victorious this would give him a Lonsdale belt out-right & put him right in the World equation. I’ve got him realistically rated @ #3 in the UK right now behind Murray & Barker. As mentioned in a previous post he’s only 23 & time is definitely on his side!

Posted July 23, 2013 4:36 am 


dwc hes a excellent boxer,one of the best, but I cant see his power getting much more than it is, there’s always a trade off and this is his.

Posted July 23, 2013 3:33 am 


I’m picking Ryder in this fight. I feel he’s being vastly underrated here. He’s a damn good prospect. Southpaw with skills and power.

Posted July 23, 2013 12:51 am 


billy joe saunders! remember the name. he is coming. I reckon he is already a better fighter than the over rated trio of Martinez victims, murray, barker and macklin, but after he finishes with ryder he’ll have to beat one of them to truly be the best 160 in the uk. for mine its just a matter of time. the best part about him is who he is fighting. he isn’t padding his record with easy wins he’s fighting other top level young fighters

Posted July 22, 2013 7:39 pm 


Saunders keeps moving forward,3yrs could be top guy in the mix.At just 23 hes a mature fighter,and as he matures he will devolpe more power I belive.Saunders with his ring skills and if he gets more power as he matures he will be a beast.

Posted July 22, 2013 7:00 pm 

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