if wilder wants to step it up he doesnt have to fight fury .There is adamek, banks ,arreola povekin, chaeav then if wilder beat 2 or 3 of the guys I just named it will be wildere who can say fury is beneath me let him win some fights . until then wilder is all talk . right now I dont think wilder has gained the skills or level that michael grant has attained . i bet eddie chambers over wilder at heavyweightPosted December 21, 2012 2:01 am
People forget hoe many bums the klitschkos went through. Wlads first 30 something opponents were club fighters and bums that were past their best with shot chins like phil jackson and he lost to ross purity. Wilder had only 20 something amateur fights while the klitschkos had loads. Even in wlads 1st wbo reign in the early 2000s he fought bums like monte barrett and charles shufford and david bostice. Why do you think wlads had 61 fights. Give wilder time. He still has bad technique. He badly needs manny steward to make him dominant.Posted August 28, 2012 9:01 am
Fury doesn’t need wilder right now, his carrer is well managed, and he ain’t scared of anyone cause he’s got the gipsy mentality.Posted August 28, 2012 7:52 am
Fury has some half way decent names on his resume much better then Wilder and Fury is still young. And it looks like Furys next fight is with Chagaev(maybe thats why Wilder is shooting his mouth off knowing Fury is already busy) Lets see if Wilder is still so willing if Fury looks good beating Chagaev.In the meantime there are so many fighters Wilder could face while Fury fights Chagaev then if they both win let them face each other.But will Wilder face a live wire while Fury fights Chagaev what hes done so far tells me no. Maybe if Wilder fought some solid fighters this wouldnt seem so looking for the spot light public relation type of hype. Well lets see what Wilder does soon because action speaks louder then words.Posted August 28, 2012 4:20 am
This guy is destined for Michael Grant syndrome.. before Michael Grant got it.. lol. He’s not humble and he really thinks he’s a world beater after he beats no hopers. His fall will be greatest to he himself as he is seemingly in the dark about the level of talent that he is fighting.Posted August 28, 2012 1:07 am
Another Virgin for Wladimir. Undefeated at 24-0 with 24 KO’s.
“slurping Wilder’s nuts: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:Posted August 27, 2012 6:53 pm
I believe you may be right.Posted August 27, 2012 6:52 pm
Fury is sloppy, flabby, has no chin and no power, he’s just big. WIlder also has no chin but at least he can punch. In a battle of 2 guys with weak chins you know what they “go with the puncher everytime”. Wilder would absolutely crush Fury which is why Fury’s opting to fight another shot fighter next to give the illusion that beating a former champ is good despite the former chamop being a shot and very sick man.Posted August 27, 2012 6:12 pm
Wilder is being taken along carefully so he doesn’t get beat before getting a title shot.Posted August 27, 2012 2:47 pm
The good news is that after 24 fights, his body remains healthy and intact; in fact, he now weighs 228 pounds to go with his 6’7” frame and 84” reach. He has also developed a neat left hook to go with his snapping long right which has spelled doom for most of his ring foes.
The bad news is that he has only fought 40 rounds which averages out to 1.7 rounds per outing and that can spell big trouble if one of his future opponents takes him deep. Fighting guys like a totally shot Owen “What the Heck” Beck and Marlon Hayes is fine, but it’s time to step up and I have just the right guys for him to fight.
Enter David “Nino” Rodriguez. The 34-year-old “Nino” sports a record of 36-0 with 34 wins coming by way of KO. He has an impressive 94.44 KO percentage which is almost as good as Wilder’s astonishing 100%. Among Nino’s victims have been the immortal Marcus McGee, Stacy Goodson, and Marcus “Big Tuna” Rhode. He last fought in December 2011 when he waxed Byron Polley in two.
This fight would tell us a lot about both guys. Is Nino pure puff or is Wilder pure hype? My thinking is that Wilder would ice the 6’4” Texan in short order and move him up a slight notch. But if Rodriguez could take the Bronze Bomber into the late rounds, he just might surprise.
Other possibilities could be Canadian Bermane “B Ware” Stiverne (22-1-1) who now fights out of Las Vegas and who waxed Ray Austin last year, Tor Hamer (18-1) who recently won a Prizefighter Tourney in London, and Michael “Big” Grant who matches Wilder’s height and actually exceeds his reach advantage by two inches. Finally, Kevin “Kingpin” Johnson (28-2-1) might be the perfect test, but for God’s sakes, Deontay, step up and show us what you havePosted August 27, 2012 1:00 pm
If they would stop protecting Fury ,Wilder would knockout and go through Fury like Hurricane Isaac.Posted August 27, 2012 12:14 pm
Fear? You must be joking, right? :mrgreen:
Wilder has been pro longer time than Fury but still Wilder’s best win is against a boxrec #246 ranked boxer :shock: – try to compare their resumes. Scaring so bad opposition Wilder has fought.
Wilder has yet not fought Zack Page level boxers. Pathetic.
Fury fought Zack in his 13. fight – Pulev in his just 3. fight. Wilder will, maybe – just maybe, fight a Zack Page level boxer in his 40. fight if he progresses with this speed :mrgreen:Posted August 27, 2012 11:58 am
I smell fear coming from Fury who hasn`t exactly been fighting A- quality boxers himself and Chagaev is not the same fighter that he was and has done nothing since 2007.Posted August 27, 2012 11:29 am
Is Wilder another Mac Foster? In the the words and wisdom of the great philosopher Ringo Starr “Tomorrow never knows”.Posted August 27, 2012 10:41 am
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Maybe Wilder might want to actually beat someone in the top 50 before he starts call out contenders.Posted August 27, 2012 10:13 am
Yep, Firtha and Pajkic are both tough and Wilder might lose to either of them.Posted August 27, 2012 9:53 am
Wilder needs more rounds or he will sink the first time he is taken into the late rounds.Posted August 27, 2012 9:38 am
Spot onPosted August 27, 2012 9:35 am
Is this writer paid to suck Wilder’s c–k? It is Wilder who needs to step up his competition not Wilder. Funny that this “writer” mentions Martin Rogan, Vinny Maddalone, Neven Pajkic and Nicolai Firtha as example for poor opponents – all of them are better that anyone Wilder has fought :mrgreen:Posted August 27, 2012 8:12 am
Since Fury has other plans, that leaves every other heavyweight out there. Wilder has great size and may be the real thing, but it is time to face some better opposition. Not a week passes without heavies on this page claiming that no one will fight them. Come on, guys, fight each other and we’ll see who emerges as a true contender.Posted August 27, 2012 7:36 am
I think Wilder vs. Fury would be a fun fight but I agree with others here that before that should really happen Deontay needs to step up his competition for a couple fights and put some rounds in with a better class of fighter than he’s been in there with lately. Fury is definitely further developed as a pro at this point. If they both keep up their winning ways it might just happen in a year or two.Posted August 27, 2012 3:46 am
Deontay needs to go fight “somebody”, an alive one. D might be putting all his eggs in pot and Fury might kick them over.Posted August 27, 2012 3:15 am
Wilder, man up face a top 50 heavy beat a few of them them call out tyson. Your knowhere near his level yetPosted August 27, 2012 1:59 am
I knew the jigaboo would surface eventually!! hahaPosted August 27, 2012 1:33 am
I was wondering when the typical loud mouthed American spook was going to come out.Posted August 27, 2012 1:31 am
Wilder just talked about ‘Bringing it’ to Don King HW Mark deMori. That’s the step up he needs to prove himself, someone similar level that going to punch back.Posted August 27, 2012 12:29 am
I don’t think Fury is a world beater but he has most surely beaten far more skilled and experienced fighters than Wilder. Wilder would be beaten up by Fury IMO, let alone Wilder calling out the Klitschkos,…. HAHAHAHA!!!!Posted August 27, 2012 12:17 am
Mago is a good prospect. He’s not so good he’s going to crush Wilder like a bug. That would be a tough fight for both these guys, and it’s not going to happen for a while … I’d love to see it though.Posted August 27, 2012 12:07 am
MAGO ABDALUSOMOV WOULD CRUSH DEONTAY WILDER LIKE A BUG.Posted August 26, 2012 11:58 pm
WILDER’S REPONSE WHEN CHALLENGED BY MAGO: “I AIN’T GETTIN IN THE RING WID DAT HONKY!”Posted August 26, 2012 11:57 pm
Wilder can’t just challenge Fury because he’s not going to bite. He’s going to take safer fights. Wilders people have to get offers out to guys like Hanks, Oquendo, Grano, Ortiz, Pulev, Pudar, and Thompson. To quote Cus D’Amato, who got Floyd Patterson and Mike Tyson title shots at ages 21 and 20.. “My philosophy is, don’t screw around with a good heavyweight. You’re burning up money when you do. You get him fights, fights, fights, and more fights. Then you get him a title shot as soon as he’s ready. Don’t give him time to breath. No kid can get into trouble when he’s constantly training and fighting every 2 or 3 weeks. He’s as alert as a soldier on the battle field — he has to have his wits about him or he’ll get killed. He’s going to be sharper than anyone else and have have more money to spend on sparring partners.. And that’s the key — great sparring. He going to get to bed early so he doesn’t get his ass kicked the next day … and don’t take a breather until you get that title.”Posted August 26, 2012 11:48 pm
Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)
WHEN THESE TOP RANKED HEAVYWEIGHTS WILL BE EACH OTHER??? I THINK IT’S CLEAR, TOP HEAVYWEIGHTS AVOIDING EACH OTHER AS A PLAGUE.Posted August 26, 2012 10:56 pm
Wilder vs abdusalamovPosted August 26, 2012 10:23 pm
It’s Me, Ernie…
Jennings? Deontay will ko him in three. Bryant has zero power, the ONE thing a real heavyweight needs.Posted August 26, 2012 9:05 pm
Are articles for the front page not checked for basic coherence? There are some really bad articles getting through these days. The Fury v Wilder fight is worth making eventually, but they can both build their names a fair bit first before stepping into the ring together, they will both make a lot more money that way (let’s not forget that this is a career for both fighters, not some school yard bragging rights competition).
Fury has done more to generate some interest around him that Wilder has at this stage, but that may change in the coming years. So far Fury has faced much better competition, so criticism of his resume by Wilder fans is rather comical. I believe that Fury is happy to face anyone, but people behind the scenes keep reeling him in when he opens his mouth to remind him that he could make a lot more off some of these fights by biding his time a bit. Wilder has just realised that he can generate more interest (and hence more money) by challenging other fighters, and creating a bit of a buzz.
Fury won’t be fighting Chagaev to prepare for a fight with a Klitschko, he will be doing it because it is a decent fight, against a well seasoned boxer, who brings a name and a better ranking to the table. Fury gets more from beating Chagaev than he would beating Wilder or Price at this stage.
When I read these articles, and some of the comments, I wonder whether some people just have their heads in the sand when it comes to the business side of boxing…all this stuff happens all the time, it’s nothing new, and in most cases the fights will eventually happen when there’s much more at stake.Posted August 26, 2012 8:41 pm
Fury is on the brink of BIG things. Wilder is still a ways off. It makes sense for him to call Fury out but right now for Fury, dollars make sense & there’s no point in risking big thing$ fighting a Wilder.
Hey, Wilder, go learn how to throw an uppercut to your own face before you challenged somebody who is a master of it.Posted August 26, 2012 8:28 pm
Tark- good postPosted August 26, 2012 5:38 pm
Whoa whoa “if wilder wants tyson hehas to fight some namers first”. C’mon man! Are u serious?!!! Guess what :idea: …….tyson is not a champ and he is not a klitschko. In fact fury hasn’t fought much in the way of comp. Try to put fury on some fake uppr eschelon is folly. Fury won’t even fight price. And hasn’t really fought anyone on the national stage. You have to admit its sad when chagaev is considered you stepping it up. Wilder and fury are a lot closer than a klitschko and a fury. So flush your head gear out and get with the program. In no way is fury too good for wilder. Good on wilder for calling fury out.Posted August 26, 2012 5:36 pm
Totally agree. Fighters should earn their fights with their fists, not their mouth.Posted August 26, 2012 5:31 pm
Wilder is thinking that he can get a big fight using his mouth vs his fists. If he want fury he needs to fight some top level fighters first. As it stands Tyson and Chag are ranked way higher then Wilder for good reason. If Chag is a fraction of his former self, then Tyson will have his hands full. Any talk aobut Wilder vs a top name is rubbish until Wilder fights and beats a top 50ish opponent.Posted August 26, 2012 5:29 pm
Deontay Wilder will knock out Fury.Posted August 26, 2012 5:20 pm
Fury-Chagaev, Wilder-Liahovich type guy (or him), then Wilder and Fury could fight for somethingPosted August 26, 2012 5:09 pm
This author writes, “Chagaev, #7 WBA, has a high ranking by the World Boxing Association and this fight will in theory help Fury get better.” ..There is no chance that fighting a short, slow, defunct, sickly southpaw will help Fury get ready for heavyweights like Wilder, Jennings, Price, Haye, Mitchell, or the Klitschkos. Fury will probably beat Chagaev by a bigger margin than Povetkin beat him. That will just put him on the long list of guys who Povetkin won’t fight.Posted August 26, 2012 5:05 pm
40 rounds of experience in 24 fights. The only name of any remote importance on his ledger is Owen Beck who had lost his previous 7 fights , 6 by KO. Someone is blowing some hype a little too prematurely, methinks.Posted August 26, 2012 4:53 pm
Or Dave Bontempo—it was great to see Dave again—would love to see him and Bernstein commentating.Posted August 26, 2012 4:45 pm
Or he can fight Pauli Mallinaggio (sorry if I butchered your name, Pauli) since the kid is standing right next to him.Posted August 26, 2012 4:43 pm
The writer assumes Fury is using Chagaev as preparation for the Klitschkos – why the hell does he think that? Tyson is a relatively young heavyweight being brought along slowly as he has plenty to learn I don’t believe he’s preparing for any world title fight – it’ll be a good 2 years before Tyson gets to such a stage. Also a win over Wilder won’t improve Fury’s rating and I presume Wilder wants the fight in the States so that’s another reason to be uninterested. Surely there must be heavyweights in the States that can give Wilder a fight?Posted August 26, 2012 4:29 pm
For a guy who fights puffed up Cruiser yea we believe ya DontayPosted August 26, 2012 4:16 pm
Wilder needs to face a live opponent first before thinking about someone like Fury, Tyson might have ducked Price but at least he’s faced a Chisora unlike Wilder who’s feasted on nothing but bums.Posted August 26, 2012 3:28 pm