Dizani – makes you realise the lengths that the ” lynch mob ” would go to just to witness Floyd take a beating especially vs GGG yet when you mention GGG vs SOG they cry his clearing the MW division.Posted March 12, 2014 4:12 pm
i would think so. It does matter, doesn’t it??.Posted March 12, 2014 2:53 pm
Dizani@ you’re right. I hate it when elite boxers fight opponents outside of their weight classes, even two weight classes outside of their natural size. It’s different in HW’s though, but the size pays a big role in there too, but other factors come into play when we are talking about really big men. When natural human size reaches its maximum, many abilities start to suffer. In short, too big men become clumsy and slow.Posted March 12, 2014 11:56 am
WOW, Just saw the Cotto/Martinez press conference and Martinez is thicker/bigger than Cotto by enough to make me realize what a joke Floyd vs. Martinez and GGG would be. No way should Floyd be asked to fight MW Champions. To much of a natural size advantage.Posted March 12, 2014 11:37 am
I’d also like a Canelo Alvarez vs. Curtis Stevens fight at 160lbs. That could also sell as a PPV fight.
You would honestly pay for a Alvarez vs. Stevens fight, are you kidding?
How about boxing just pick up the UFC format and make any recognizable name on a milk cartoon a PPV Fight.
Alvarez vs. Cotto/Martinez/GGG are PPV worth. That’s about it. MEGA FIGHTS are PPV, not your regular fights.Posted March 12, 2014 10:42 am
I’d also like a Canelo Alvarez vs. Curtis Stevens fight at 160lbs. That could also sell as a PPV fight.Posted March 12, 2014 6:10 am
I think Canelo ends up moving to middleweight and look for a fight against Felix Strum, Martin Murray or Brian Vera. It really depends on Canelo’s PPV numbers, I think a Canelo vs. Strum PPV can get made if Canelo vs. Angulo numbers are solid.Posted March 12, 2014 6:08 am
i felt the need to interject.just this past weekend i watched a good fight with my uncle.im mexican and hes puerto rican, he married my ant.we truly enjoy our rivalry and apreciate the boxers are countries have produced.you people who have the nerve to say racist sh** online knowing full well that none of you do this in public and only behind closed doors and let your fingers type away are such cowards.you people are worse than when people get drunk and some how get courages, bunch of kewboard warriors.Posted March 12, 2014 2:44 am
My bad…Ortiz didn’t belong on the list. Seeing him getting his senses separated from his consciousness as a result of a picture-perfect hook to the mandibular was not boring…..but definitely funny. What made it even more hilarious was knowing ,along with anyone else who saw it, that he could have easily continued but decided to QUIT. BWWAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!Posted March 11, 2014 9:00 pm
If you think that Danny Garcia’s fights are boring and laughable, you must not enjoy watching competitive fights ending in someone getting KTFO. Stop whining and switch the channel to watch Rios getting humiliated, Ortiz getting put to sleep, Chavez Jr. coming in 20 lbs over!!!jajjajaja or Canelo sparring a potato sack.Posted March 11, 2014 8:45 pm
GGG, Canelo, Martinez, Cotto, Kirkland….they are here now and should fight each other now! Not later or wait till somebody is shot. Boxing sucks! Boxing Organization Sucks! Can’t tell them to fight each other not unless this sissy boxer said yes.Posted March 11, 2014 8:12 pm
I wouldn’t doubt it for one second…. The interesting fact is IF Angulo had won (about as close to an impossibility as you can get, for reasons I’ll divulge in a few) all of Mexico and their descendants would jump on his bandwagon faster than you can say “I’d like a diet coke with that order of tacos”. I know all the ese’s are thinking “orale, how come the perro don’t have no chance?” Well, because Kirkland walked Angulo down and beat him senseless, and Lara basically toyed with him and his eye before making him turn around and quit in front of his adoring fanboys. So of course, I knew he wouldn’t go the distance, the wagering public new he wouldn’t go the distance, his trainer knew this…hell everyone and their vatos locos mothers knew this….except a few on ESB apparently.Posted March 11, 2014 8:00 pm
Canelo calling out any good or even descent fighters in their primes AND in his weight class?? jaja!!! Good one! Canelo don’t want GGG or even Lara. GGG would tear Canelo apart with ease and Canelo knows this. Any boxing fan without Canelos !@#$ in their mouth would know this as well. And don’t even think of mistaking GGG for Alfredo “el poodle” cause they’re not nowhere near the same level of talent. You can say the same of GGG and Canelo…not in the same league.Posted March 11, 2014 6:44 pm
Martinez will be had punching cotto gloves all night and get a counter body shot. Or a left hook for his trouble, why can’t he back up the potato – Rico he don’t know he fighting the king?
Tumbo, cotto has part Mexican blood. inca related,a true a warrior,
No Brainer! Martinez is bigger and better than Canola! Canola loss to Floyd so he needs to fight tomato can fighters. Not Cotto who is a HOF.Posted March 11, 2014 4:41 pm
“RIGHT YOU [Knowledgeable Fight-Fan], THERE IS NO DOG IN COTTO” just a touch of Pus-sy.Posted March 11, 2014 4:27 pm
Canelo or Martinez? Martinez all day boy! Cotto pick the tougher fight!Posted March 11, 2014 4:10 pm
i doubt Cotto fears anyone, it’s just that beating Martinez would be a bigger accomplishment than fighting Canelo and maybe losing, if he beats Martinez he’ll have another title in another weight class, which looks alot better on paperPosted March 11, 2014 4:02 pm
i fully expect Martinez’s awkward southpaw style to exploit Cotto’s questionable chin. IMO, “Maravailla” will be placing his left-hand powershots on Cotto’s melon virtually at will. at which point, visions of domestic bliss will begin to flood Cotto’s mind and he will graciously(?) take a knee rather than risk lasting damage. there’s no Angulo in Cotto.Posted March 11, 2014 3:28 pm
“I think Cotto is the one who takes the most challenges, one of few fighters who fights anyone”. not quite. he publicly declined Canelo’s guaranteed $10 million challenge not counting back-end residuals, which would’ve been plenty after promoters dusted-off the “rivalry” angle. however, win or lose v. Martinez, i don’t think even that would be enough for Cotto to risk a career-ending beatdown at the fists of Canelo.Posted March 11, 2014 3:26 pm
Cotto has a secret weapon! Freddy Rouch baby!!!!!! Cotto will win in a spectacular KO! Bring on Mayweather or Canelo next!Posted March 11, 2014 3:22 pm
I hope Cotto loses so that Canelo has to fight Martinez. even though Martinez is on his last legs, he’ll be a tougher style and he won’t be undersized against the red headPosted March 11, 2014 2:39 pm
Yes, if Martinez’s knees break in half and Cotto somehow wins. Otherwise, no.Posted March 11, 2014 2:18 pm
cotto might not only lose but he might just take a nap but if not he loses on points easily…yezzir!Posted March 11, 2014 2:15 pm
I’ll be rooting for Sergio.Posted March 11, 2014 12:53 pm
Nobody knows yet how Martinez will even be come fight night.
Now if somehow the version of Martinez that was active and still decently healthy shows up, Cotto gets stopped. But again, “what was” is not “what is”Posted March 11, 2014 12:46 pm
Forget it gents, the days of evenly matched super fights are long gone. It’s all about fighting for a big payday and picking someone you can beat. I think Cotto is the one who takes the most challenges, one of few fighters who fights anyone.Posted March 11, 2014 11:13 am
Against Cotto, Martinez will still be overrated. He is just way bigger than Cotto so that could be the difference. As far as skill, I’ll take Cotto all day. If Cotto gets to Martinez early he will win the fight. If not then he will probably lose a decision.Posted March 11, 2014 10:52 am
even after Cotto is KO’d by Martinez, i still want Canelo to have the opportunity to escort Cotto through the “Exit” from the ranks of active fighters . . . and Messyhoe’s whistling spiral to the canyon floor just got faster.Posted March 11, 2014 10:44 am
The Greatest Promoter of All Times
Hidalg0, there is so much talk on forums how GGG handled Kovalev so easily in sparring that Krusher no longer wishes to spar him and now this story has almost grown into an urban myth.
Well, let each man prove whether or not this is the case and we will all be richer for witnessing it.
I will be happy to make all the necessary calls to ensure it happens if and when each man is ready to go.Posted March 11, 2014 10:21 am
“Martinez is overrated.” Not against Miguel Cotto he isn’t.Posted March 11, 2014 10:15 am
“The same goes for GGG, who can then move up and conquer the giants at 168 and then seek a fight at 175 with his friend Krusher Kovalev.”
GGG is a small middleweight and that’s why he continues to fight as a middleweight and why he offers to go down to 154 to fight the likes of Mayweather and Martinez. Light heavyweight is entirely too big for him as those guys typically step into the ring weighing well over 180 lbs.Posted March 11, 2014 10:15 am
Martinez is overrated. The only way he beats Cotto is if the size difference is too great. I surely hope it isn’t and Cotto handles Martinez. If this was at welter or possibly 154 I would favor CottoPosted March 11, 2014 10:10 am
The Mad Scientist
Canelo doesn’t have to worry about fighting Cotto..Miguel is getting his ass handed to him by Martinez anywayz..Canelo vs Martinez is the fight to make in Sept..if successful Canelo can go on to defend against Lara, Kirkland and unify against Quillin and triple G..these are all winnable fights for Canelo since he is growing more experience and getting better as he goes..I bet that hurt for you to read Enema, its ok just do what your peeps do best and take a knee..LolPosted March 11, 2014 9:17 am
The Greatest Promoter of All Times
Why are people not calling for GGG to seek a fight with Canelo? Surely if GGG wants to be an instant star, dismantling this matinee idol would out him at the top table.
The more I think of this match up the more I prefer it to a match up if GGG and Chavez Jnr.
I will do my utmost to convince Canelo that his future path should be to steamroll his way through GGG and make himself the biggest star on the planet or to fail admirably in his attempt.
If he beats GGG he can eclipse anyone’s earning power that has come before him.
The same goes for GGG, who can then move up and conquer the giants at 168 and then seek a fight at 175 with his friend Krusher Kovalev.Posted March 11, 2014 7:59 am
The Mad Scientist
Boxing is a business first and my guess is team Canelo will explore the winner of Cotto/Martinez next and then hopefully Lara..Posted March 11, 2014 6:33 am
Canelo needs to take on Lara next. Canelo is still without a title since losing both of his to Mayweather. Fight Lara, take his WBA Interim title if he can, then move on from there.Posted March 11, 2014 1:17 am
My apologies to you, I misunderstood what you meant. With so much racism here about Golovkin and other white fighters from the likes of SREDMOND/Woop Woop and his kind I misunderstood your comments. I just get fed up with some of the bitter and cruel remarks. I agree with you, I think Golovkin is a great fighter who may well turn out to be one of the best middleweights of all time if he can get the fights he wants. We’ll just have to wait and see how things pan out for him and look forward to his return to the ring. I wouldn’t wanna be his next opponent and if that’s Andy Lee, a good quality boxer, and a good guy, then he’s in for a very tough time. I would still have heavily favored Golovkin but after the tragic death of his father I can see Lee getting hammered in double quick time. Styles make fights and perhaps the talented Lara will give Golovkin a lot of problems but I think if Golovkin attacks his body, and I think he will, and slows him down, then Lara will be in big trouble. Golovkin is very fast at closing his opponents down, the fastest I’ve seen in a long time and he’s no slugger, he’s got great skills and a deceptively excellent defense. Will the likes of Quillin and Co fight him? For the right money of course they will, but I don’t think they’ll beat him, and many will be stopped, but at least they’ll get paid good money to take the beating that Golovkin continues to hand out to all his previous opponents.Posted March 11, 2014 12:15 am
In the spirit of clearing things up, I am indeed super pumped for the Groves Froch rematch. That one is a bit tougher to call than cotto sergio. going to enjoy both like everyone else on here thoughPosted March 10, 2014 11:33 pm
@ the fights Froch v. Groves II should be a great fight and will make a lot of money. However, I like my super fights to involve the best two in a division or the best in one division moving up and fighting the best in that division. Two top 5 guys but nobody argues either one is the 168 champ.
@Sant Flores- don’t be so polite to some nut job who takes things remarkably out of context. There was nothing in the post that led anyone else you were belittling the loss of a fatherPosted March 10, 2014 10:56 pm
The Mad Scientist
Unless is a super fight here in America is not really a super fight..Posted March 10, 2014 10:46 pm
“Who cares Canelo needs to fight GGG now that’s PPV worthy”
Who cares? You heartless sewer rat. Get back in the gutter where you belong you piece of crap.
Rest in peace Mr Golovkin, your son has done great, you should be proud of him.Posted March 10, 2014 10:23 pm
I realize that Gennady has just lost his father and it’s a terrible time for him, but when do you think Gennady will get back in the ring? He’s in mourning, 40 days if I recall, taking that into account, and the deeply sad psychological impact that it will obviously have on anyone, plus training, I’d guess at perhaps July. What do you guys think? I know Tark and many others here are very big fans of Gennady and see him as the best middleweight in the world. I hope Gennady comes back better than ever, he’s my favorite fighter.Posted March 10, 2014 10:10 pm
Apparently Canelo likes a fighter who will stand there in
front of him and trade.
Fighters like Mayweather who gives a lot of movement
and feints, etc most likely would cause problems for him.Posted March 10, 2014 9:51 pm
Canelo should fight Lara next… It’s a monster fight so do it.
The only reason you don’t do it is to protect Canelo. Lara is the most logical opponent out there by far.
Just like Rigondeaux was logical for Donaire… Nonito fought him.Posted March 10, 2014 9:49 pm
The Mad Scientist
Don’t make us laugh Enema..even at this stage I bet Angulo woops Cotto’s ass..Lol!..nobody at 154 woops Canelo in a real fight!Posted March 10, 2014 9:30 pm
If the annoying network clashes continue, then I doubt it’d be either Cotto or Martinez. A move to middleweight (if for a title) would likely see Canelo matched with Quillin.
I’d be keen for any of these fights outside of the Molina one… don’t really care to see 12 rounds of men hugging.Posted March 10, 2014 9:15 pm
I’m a fan of these guys. I’m happy watching any of them fight. Moreso if they fight each other. Canelo does need to move up, though. He’s too big to be a SWW.Posted March 10, 2014 9:05 pm
Forget lara or cotto, lara gets on his bicycle all night. Looses by contraversial descision and cotto takes a knee. Bring on the mandingo warrior kirkland. Thats where is at!Posted March 10, 2014 8:59 pm
well I thought Canelo can not make 154 anymore and needs to move to 160. Lara is out and then there is GGG who is on another channel.Posted March 10, 2014 8:47 pm
The Mad Scientist
I wanna see Canelo woop Martinez, Lara, Quillin, Kirkland and triple G..all winnable fight for Kid Cinnamon at 160lbs me thinks..Posted March 10, 2014 8:02 pm
There’s also kirkland…. but I can see gb making someone like collazo go up to middleweight to fight cinnabum…..lolPosted March 10, 2014 7:46 pm
Aren’t they both too big for Canelo? I mean doesn’t Canelo want an opponent that he can outweigh by at least 10 pounds?Posted March 10, 2014 7:37 pm
Luke my man, 3G is the biggie!Posted March 10, 2014 7:30 pm
Canelo, go up to middleweight properly, dude, not half-assed, and take on the winner of Sergio-Cotto, Quillin or a real biggie, 3G…Failing that, yeah Lara at 154 would b cool..Posted March 10, 2014 7:24 pm
Livershot – He will NOT fight Lara, first it was “who has he beat?”, Lara then beats Trout then stops Angulo…so now it’s “Canelo beat Angulo in better fashion”.Posted March 10, 2014 7:23 pm
Canelo will fight the winner if Cotto wins, if Martinez wins Canelo will look elsewhere for his next fight. Hard to believe that Canelo will wait to fight the winner of Martinez/Cotto. Martinez/Cotto wont be ready to fight again until September. Canelo should consider fighting Lara who has no fight scheduled. July or early Aug date could be secured if he wanted to. If he avoids Lara, more talk of him being protected will grow louder and louder.Posted March 10, 2014 7:18 pm
Floyd can fight the winner ( Sergio ) & Canelo will fight Cotto after losing 3-4 fights….sad, but Alvarez needs a big name & miguels kids need shoes…Posted March 10, 2014 6:28 pm
YupPosted March 10, 2014 6:24 pm