Don’t let Roy sell you on NONSENSE. Ward has been facing most of his opponents at 168 or under but he still only has 14 KO’s. SO there’s no guarantee that IF Rodriguez came in 2 lbs lighter the day before the Fight he’d get knocked out. Ward isn’t a knockout artist he’s a UD artist. Thats why I took him by THRONE defending UD instead of THRONE defending stoppage.Posted November 17, 2013 1:28 am
Because the Weight is irrelevant SKILLS is what’s relevant. IF he doesn’t make Weight then SHAME on him. NO title shot for him. But he can STILL take the LOSS. SKILLS is more important than Weight. His trainer should have been all over the SKILLS issue.Posted November 17, 2013 12:27 am
Why wasn’t there periodic weigh-ins???
Like a month out… 2 weeks out… and a week out??? You have to monitor if the boxers are making adequate progress towards making I68. With as many problems as promotions have with fighters weighing too much—you have to get extremely aggressive about the weight issue… With a fight this important you get all over the matter.Posted November 16, 2013 10:34 pm
The Pugilist KOrner Radio: “Fight Night – Andre Ward vs. Edwin Rodriguez”
Tonight at 10PM EST/7PM PST, “JK Productions” presents a special blow by blow presentation of “Andre Ward vs. Edwin Rodriguez”!!
718-506-1506Posted November 16, 2013 8:06 pm
Y don’t ppl like ward I don’t get it. Sure he fights alot at home but has anyone been robbed fighting ward. Hes beat everyone pretty soundly in my eyes jsPosted November 16, 2013 7:30 pm
Drug cheat who won’t travel. That’s why he get paid peanutsPosted November 16, 2013 5:55 pm
The Conte twist actually makes both fighters look dirty to me.Posted November 16, 2013 5:51 pm
oh no not another yank on peds.Posted November 16, 2013 4:29 pm
It appears that both ward and mayweather are CYCLING THE JUNK!!!!!! bahahahahaahh!!!!!!Posted November 16, 2013 3:27 pm
I just hope this kid can jack wards jaw thats all i care about not ward getting more money. e-rod will probably not fight at this weight again. Maybe this is anothr match that should be made at light heavy. But the fight everyone wants to see is kovalev vs ward or throw adonis in there but the best would be kovalev vs ward and if ward wants money thats WHERE ITS AT!!! quit trying to hunt down someone you already beat ward!!! get some kovalev sauce on that jaw!!!! you know your bound forlight heavy anyway ward!!!! and get off the conte juice!!! It’s no match for powerhouse kovalev sauce!!!! KOVALEV WILL JACK YOU UP SON!!!!Posted November 16, 2013 3:26 pm
Why won’t Andre Ward to VADA or USADA testing? Rodriguez signed up for VADA 24/7 testing even after Ward declined to do so.Posted November 16, 2013 3:13 pm
Rodriguez is yet another example of a fighter being unprofessional for a major card. He didn’t even try to make 168, wouldn’t return to the scale after the time alotment. Now there’s a rumor Andre is demanding 45% fine not 20%. Anyone confirm?Posted November 16, 2013 3:06 pm
Disgrace that he could not make the weight, surely he should be docked his whole purse. He has denied someone the change of fighting for the title. Like arriving at a bike race with a motor cycle.Posted November 16, 2013 2:41 pm
hype peds and weight gain,only in america folks.Posted November 16, 2013 2:05 pm
That was only put in because he could not make weight. If he would of made weight then he would of been able to balloon up to what he wanted to balloon up to. Now I know Chavez does it but I haven’t paid attention to Garcias weight on fight day. So not sure.Posted November 16, 2013 1:38 pm
“as well as mandatory Drug Testing and Glove Inspections..” WTF good would that do you? there’s nobody in PR qualified to inspect gloves anyway. just ask “Junito”.Posted November 16, 2013 1:37 pm
The fight was close but Bradley clearly won not fair to Bradley to discredit his best win and Marquez doesn’t beat Bradley at any point in his career in all reality Bradley beat a juiced up Marquez even more impressive.Posted November 16, 2013 12:43 pm
te tumbo, agreed.Posted November 16, 2013 12:41 pm
it’s Ward’s right to make a point at Rodriguez’s expense but the rehydration clause does bleed the very last drop of competitiveness out of this bout, which now rests on a very flat and uninspired Ward collapse v. a Rodriguez stepping-Up in spectacular and miraculous fashion, but that was already the case. accordingly, S.O.G. has every right to make a point at the expense of Rodriguez’s credibility. after all, he’s the guy who violated the conditions by not making weight.Posted November 16, 2013 12:39 pm
I thought Bradley clearly won the fight. But like I said Marquez is a counter puncher, does not do good against fighters who can boxPosted November 16, 2013 12:33 pm
“Ha ha Boxtras theory went down the toilet when the slighly less skilled but far more athletic Bradley soundly beat the more skilled Marquez.”
I scored the fight a draw.Posted November 16, 2013 11:57 am
rodriguez, a total wanker in a total hype sh#t fight.Posted November 16, 2013 11:53 am
What Boxtra says doesn’t hold true when the fighter is way out of his prime and who really only does really good when the fighter is coming straight at him like a Pac, or Diaz, or Katsidis.Posted November 16, 2013 11:37 am
Look at the video with Rodriguez. It doesn’t look like guy giving his all.
Ha ha Boxtras theory went down the toilet when the slighly less skilled but far more athletic Bradley soundly beat the more skilled Marquez.Posted November 16, 2013 10:53 am
Shields is probably very disappointed.Posted November 16, 2013 10:43 am
Jack Dempsy, it looks as though your point was proved. Rodriguez isn’t cut from the same cloth as Holyflied, Whitaker or Tyson.Posted November 16, 2013 10:42 am
I don’t know where they are getting the rehydration clause from. I believe it’s in this article or on another site. But I read plenty about the negotiations. And like I said he tried pushing Ward around, was successful to some degree only to come in 2 pounds heavy. So then he lost whatever he had at the negotiation table on the scalesPosted November 16, 2013 9:45 am
Where is the army when you need himPosted November 16, 2013 9:35 am
tbone, did you watch the weigh-in video? Shields looked very unhappy walking up to the stage and very disappointed after he saw Edwin’s weight. Too bad really, that Edwin blew weight on what could be the most important fight of his life.Posted November 16, 2013 8:49 am
Rodriguez is a joke. How can you get to this level and not make weight when your opponent has been saying all along he wouldn’t. Ward had this picked out weeks ago. Boycotting this fight tonight. Rodriguez gets kod .Posted November 16, 2013 8:44 am
“SKILLS is more important than Weight. And Ward will help ME to prove MY point once again tomorrow night!!!”
Will somebody PLEASE throw this broken record out the window!!Posted November 16, 2013 8:42 am
Peej, Ghetto Wizard, et al, where are you guys getting your information about rehydration clauses, and what Ward wants, etc.? From another website?Posted November 16, 2013 8:41 am
Yet another hand-picked fight for Ward, this time I will grant him the privilege to meet a nobody, because of his long injury time.
Eventhough I hate him, I would like to see Stevenson vs Ward, when Andre has returned to proper form. To be honest, I don’t think that there is anyone, in the SMW division, apart from iron-chinned Froch and Kessler that can handle Stevenson.
This fight tells you all about Wards lack of future money fights. Apart from Froch, in England, like Kessler did, or Stevenson in Canada, Ward is without a future.
Since Ward is a young Hopkins, and Hopkins must be over the hill now this fight would be another hand-picked fight for Ward, who needs to show some balls soon.Posted November 16, 2013 8:27 am
Ward is one of the best .How ever he can be a little boring to watch. at one time I would never have said this , because I have putdown MMA in the past on this site. Tonight I will be watching the big MMA card with the boys and dvr the Ward bout , and watch it Sunday morning.Posted November 16, 2013 7:41 am
Mick the Marmalizer
The weight/skill issue is under debate. Bob Fitzsimmons, Tommy Burns, Mike Tyson & Evander Holyfield always handled big un’s ok in there prime.Posted November 16, 2013 6:36 am
Shut up Boxtra – you are an idiot. If skills is more important than weight, why do they have weight divisions. FMJ, arguably the most skilful boxer at the moment would NOT beat Wlad Klitschko. Of course weight counts, not in this wrestling match, but it counts.Posted November 16, 2013 5:20 am
Ward will definitely win this. He’s the better boxer. Nuff said.Posted November 16, 2013 4:51 am
Mick the Marmalizer
Rodriguez is a disgrace to the sport! he had enough time to sort his weight out, He’s obviously a fraud. He’s supposed to be a professional athlete yet behaves like this. I’m no fan of Andre Ward’s, but I hope he punch’s this clowns lights out!!…….Posted November 16, 2013 4:48 am
SKILLS is more important than Weight. And Ward will help ME to prove MY point once again tomorrow night!!!Posted November 16, 2013 3:34 am
They should just cancel this sideshow.Posted November 16, 2013 3:12 am
Ghetto Wizard you sound so tired
Edwin is a super middle weight he should have made the weight at 168 instead of coming in at 170. Rehydration clause should not effect a true professional fighting in his weight class.
Now that fighter can drink rehydration drinks during the fight, fighter should not be allowed to ballon up by 10 to 20 lb.Posted November 16, 2013 3:07 am
So many Ward’s haters up on here, don’t you ever wear out? Ward by UD. The writing was already on the wall even before the weigh-in. So why shout foul now and not when the contract was signed.Posted November 16, 2013 2:08 am
”You can’t expose anything cause there is nothing to expose. You hide behind my own name. Which basically shows your cowardness and none boxing knowledge.”
Posted November 16, 2013 12:59 am
This doesn’t even make sense.
And yet I’m the idiot. hahahaPosted November 16, 2013 1:12 am
I don’t have to expose you moron, you do it yourself on a regular basis because you’re so stupid.
You’re a massive racist hypocrite and a liar.
You’ve been exposed for being so many times in the past.
You constantly give free passes to black fighters for doing things that you hate on fighters of a different complexion for doing.
Even when the black fighters are far worse culprits or the fighters of a different complexion aren’t guilty of doing the things you criticize them for.
You’re a complete joke of a poster and an even more terrible liar.
No one should take a single word that comes out of your mouth seriously.Posted November 16, 2013 1:08 am
Zoo The Great
When you come in and cant make weight you forfeit evrything. Especially if youre not bringing anything to the table in the first place. That’s the price you pay for being unprofessional! He had everything to gain and blew it. Say what you want about Ward….except that he’s unprofessional.Posted November 16, 2013 1:01 am
You can’t expose anything cause there is nothing to expose. You hide behind my own name. Which basically shows your cowardness and none boxing knowledge.Posted November 16, 2013 12:59 am
And your most definitely an idiotPosted November 16, 2013 12:58 am
lmfao at the racist POS PEEJ turning SOG turning down free testing into a ”Rodriguez tried to smear his good name” argument.
That dumb hypocrite chops and changes his arguments to suit his racist agenda every two seconds.
He’s one of the biggest Floyd nut-huggers on here.
He tows a completely different line whenever black fighters do the things he loves to hate on fighters of different complexions do or don’t do.
All he does on here is defend black fighters, regardless of what they’ve done or how many steroids they’ve popped he’ll be on here riding their nuts.
I’ve seen him caught out and exposed as a massive racist hypocrite at least half a dozen times.
Don’t take anything that comes out of his mouth seriously. He’s a joke of a poster.Posted November 16, 2013 12:52 am
Old School Rules
“setting the rehydration clause that low was unnecessary.”— That low? These are super-middleweights. 168. That 9 am rehydration limit is 5 lbs ABOVE the LHW limit. How is that “way too low”. Ward weighs around 175-176 rehydrated. Most SMWs are in that 175-180 range on fight night. Even Dawson only came in at 185 rehydrated.
If Edwin is a SMW then he should have 2-3 lbs AT MOST to put on after 9am. If he really is so heavy that a 180 lb limit on fight day is “way too low” to the point that it seriously weakens him, then I say its a pretty fair price to pay for the 10-15 lb weight advantage he’s going to have over Ward when the bell rings.Posted November 16, 2013 12:47 am
This has everything to do with negotiations idiot. He didn’t get the money he wanted so he signed with Haymon. I’ve already set how that puts Rodriguez. So he got more money that he was offered before. Then he tries to smear Ward in front of the media and everybody else because this story was written everywhere. Then he fails to make weight. Now Ward is sticking it to him. I am not sure what advantages Ward had before he failed to make wait bit this has every bit to do with how he tried to control Ward and smear him. Now he is finding out the hard way that when it comes to the champ you are at his disposal not your own.Posted November 16, 2013 12:36 am
HAHA = Labumba and Shields cry publicly about Ward not willingly be led into nano-particle testing and then they don’t make the weight limit? That is comedy at a whole new level. Rodriguez should have to forfeit 75% of his purse to Andre and HBO should pony up another 100% to Ward just for forcing him into this in the first place.Posted November 16, 2013 12:35 am
9:00 am? OK, well that changes things a bit. Rehydrating 10lbs on the day of the fight though? Nah, that’s just plain stupid if he does that. That can’t be healthy at all.Posted November 16, 2013 12:30 am
This has nothing to do with what went on at the negotiating table you idiot. This is about Ward deliberately setting a next day rehydration clause at a weight he knows is going to greatly weaken La Bomba. Once again, Ward already has every conceivable advantage in this fight as it is, setting the rehydration clause that low was unnecessary. He clearly wants La Bomba as weak as possible, why the hell are you trying to excuse that? I think La Bomba is an azz for not making weight and he deserves his punishment. But by the same token Ward forcing him to come in that low is way is also way out of order too.Posted November 16, 2013 12:26 am
Thank you. He for some reason can’t grasp thatPosted November 16, 2013 12:21 am
@Ghetto Wizard~ Rodriguez not making weight and the rehydration clause have nothing to do with each other. Your argument is moot! I would understand if Rod had made weight and had to not rehydrate properly to stay under the weight of 180 but, that isn’t the case. All things being right in the world and Ward still whoops this dude.Posted November 16, 2013 12:19 am
Rodriguez doesnt have to enter the ring at 180..the quote from fightnews is that he has to weigh 180 at a 9am weigh in tomorrow morning. He will just need to hold off on rehydrating until tomorrow..thats fine he can bulk up a little to 180 and then spend the rest of the day drinking protein and creatine shakes and tons of water. He can easily still enter the ring at 190Posted November 16, 2013 12:18 am
Are you stupid. Ward is making a point. Don’t try and control him at the negotiation table and especially don’t try and embarrass him I front of a bunch of people. Rodriguez deserves what he gets. He tried to be a bully and got bullied plain and simple.Posted November 16, 2013 12:13 am
Are you totally stupid? I’ve already stated he’s to blame for not making weight. I’m talking about Ward forcing La Bomba to come in at a weight he’s going to be badly depleted at. Ward already has EVERYTHING in his favor as it is without him having to try an gain even more of an advantage. There was no need for him to set the rehydration limit so low. He obviously wants La Bomba as weak as possible, weak to the point where he presents not even the slightest chance of beating him.Posted November 16, 2013 12:00 am
What are you talking about? The man didn’t make weight. He lost any advantage he had. I explained what Rodriguez did. He didn’t make weight. He lost it all and has to agree to whatever Ward wants. This isn’t Wards fault this falls all on RosriguezPosted November 15, 2013 11:45 pm
What the hell are you talking about? Ward and his team have to set a 8lb rehydration clause for a fighter who comes in closer to 190 than 180. La Bomba’s main assets are his strength, size and power, forcing him to come in that low has ensured he has next to no chance at all now. Ward already has every single conceivable advantage in his favor as it is, now he’s taken La Bomba’s main strengths away from him the fight is a forgone conclusion.Posted November 15, 2013 11:42 pm
the ref should monitor this bout closely IF Rodriguez doesn’t go down easy.Posted November 15, 2013 11:41 pm
Zoo The Great
Ward haters crying because his opponent is unprofessional…….unbelievable.Posted November 15, 2013 11:31 pm
for the new guys posting on this site, check te tumbos comment-go down a few posts-and use it as an example of a sharp, poignant and accurate reflection of how this situation should be looked at…………..when this moron is not on his usual Mexican bias, very few people can match him in prose clarity. That is the only post worth reading……..he should stay away from predicting, though.Posted November 15, 2013 11:30 pm
No this is Ward pushing him back. Rodriguez tried to push Ward around at the negotiating table. When he was losing he went and signed with Haymon which automatically puts you in a power house position as long as you can make weight. The Rodriguez tried to smear Wards name about the random drug testing. So like I said Ward is back to being the 300lb gorilla in the roomPosted November 15, 2013 11:28 pm
No, La Bomba is already being punished for not making the weight. He’s lost his opportunity to win a world championship and a hefty slice of his purse. This is a act of flagrant opportunism by Ward and his team to ensure La Bomba is as weak as possible. La Bomba is solely to blame for not making the weight but a Ward win is not only absolutely guaranteed after forcing La Bomba come in at 180, it’s also a meaningless victory.Posted November 15, 2013 11:20 pm
La Bomba got one of the ugliest shirts ever. The kind of thing you’d find in some random trash bag full of clothes in the street.Posted November 15, 2013 11:18 pm
He would of been able to rehydrate to whatever he wanted if he would of made weight. That’s his faultPosted November 15, 2013 11:04 pm
agree with dibello on rodrigez not being a pro. glad they got 200k from him.Posted November 15, 2013 10:34 pm
No La Bomba not making the weight is entirely his fault. Ward and his team saying La Bomba can only rehydrate to 180, a weight he’s going to be weak as hell at, is their fault. Look at how drained he looks at 172, not being able to rehydrate to his normal fighting weight has completely eliminated whatever chance he had.Posted November 15, 2013 10:32 pm
Totaly non professional no excuses sorry.fighting one of the best fighters on the planet and you come in over weight. You don’t deserve to fight for a world championship. You and your team are incompetent !Posted November 15, 2013 10:25 pm
No excuses for this sort of thing ..The biggest fight of you’re life and you cant make weight …………Posted November 15, 2013 10:25 pm
Ha ha, it’s all wards fault.Posted November 15, 2013 10:22 pm
The fight is as good as over now. Ward and his team have told La Bomba he can’t come in above 180 on fight night. He usually weighs closer to 190 but now he’s guaranteed to be weak as hell in the ring as well as on the scales. Ward already has all the advantages in his favor as it is without having to drain him. I’m not even going to bother watching this now. Stick a fork in La Bomba, he’s donePosted November 15, 2013 10:15 pm
Absolutely wrong. Ward didn’t want this fight. It was forced on him. The weight shouldn’t be an issue. Especially since someone wanted to fight for the championpionship of the world. Now he isn’t and will be beat competing for nothingPosted November 15, 2013 10:12 pm
Damn, these dominican boxers have made it a trend to come in over weight!Posted November 15, 2013 10:08 pm
Gee I wonder why Ward chose this fight. He knew Rodriguez couldn’t make weight and is trying to drain him just like he needed the advantage against Dawson. If Ward ever has a fight with some minor adversity, he will quit, just like a spoiled rich kid. Get a passport!!!Posted November 15, 2013 9:54 pm
This isn’t about SOG this is all on Edwin and his trainer. Things happen, but they shouldn’t happen during the biggest fight of your career..Posted November 15, 2013 9:50 pm
No one’s going to blame Ward for Rodriguez not making weight. Rodriguez is obviously going to be badly affected by having had so much trouble trying to make the weight. He looks like a skeleton and it doesn’t take a genius to realize that it’s going to have a big adverse effect on him.
Ward must be really licking his lips in anticipation now. He didn’t even want this fight in the first place. He actually wanted an even easier outing but HBO forced this fight on him. The irony is Rodriguez isn’t even very good. I remember watching him go life-and-death with the decidedly average Will Rosinsky. Rosinsky’s one of the stiffs they fed to Kelly Pavlik on his ill-fated comeback to make him look good. A lot of people thought Rosinsky deserved the decision in the Rodriguez fight.Posted November 15, 2013 9:37 pm
with the money, Edwin can buy a decent shirt now.Posted November 15, 2013 9:13 pm
Well now we see why he asked for more money. Went from a mil to 800kPosted November 15, 2013 8:42 pm
Rodriguez should have kept his manager. So much for al haymonPosted November 15, 2013 8:41 pm
t n t
no excuse edwin get ready for a beat down.Posted November 15, 2013 8:33 pm
as if S.O.G. needed any more of an advantage(?). moreover, this effectively neutralizes any advantage Rodriguez might have enjoyed due to any ring-rust Ward may have experienced. conversely, Ward once again emerges the poised and consummate professional. remaining focused, making weight, no excuses, only execution. i’m glad i didn’t make plans to attend this matchup. i can wait for the replay of what was already an antic-climactic matchup.Posted November 15, 2013 8:31 pm
“That’s crazy…, Edwin screwed up big time. It’s one thing to come in a half pound heavy. That you can make without too much trouble.. Two pounds heavy is riidiculous.
It shows just how far Ronnie Shields has his head up his butt.”
That is a big F-up and it’s going to take a toll on Rodriguez in one of two ways or both: He’ll either suffer physically having to drop 2 pounds in two hours or he still won’t make weight and won’t have a chance at Ward’s title.. Or, he suffer physically and still won’t make weight.
This is a big opportunity for Edwin. I can’t believe Shields let this happen, or Danny, or Edwin himself.
Ward is going to tromp him.Posted November 15, 2013 8:24 pm
So why do fighters keep working with Conte?Posted November 15, 2013 7:53 pm
Zoo The Great
Boxing needs stiff penalties for this.Posted November 15, 2013 7:47 pm
This is what I was talking about when I said these fighters today just don’t give a damn.There is no excuse for this. Ward is always in shape.This guy don’t want to fight I don’t think it will happen.Posted November 15, 2013 7:45 pm
Edwin could weigh 100 or 300 pounds & the result would be the same…now, he has an excuse, i guess…Posted November 15, 2013 7:44 pm
Zoo The Great
S.O.G.!!Posted November 15, 2013 7:44 pm
The Anti-Ward faction will be blaming Andre for his opponent missing the weight… The only thing that matters is results Champs win and those they beat LOSE…Rodriguez is a big Jr Middle but he’s about to “Get It” facing the P4P 2nd best..Posted November 15, 2013 7:36 pm
Zoo The Great
Hatin ass hoes.Posted November 15, 2013 7:31 pm
E.rodriquez is ready for his big momentPosted November 15, 2013 7:28 pm
Most important fight of his life and ER doesn’t get the weight right… You have to blame the trainer — you have to have your man ready to weigh-in dead on the money … No screw ups for the most important night of his life. Ronnie talked a lot about Edwin’s character and Andre not doing the VADA drug tests — when they weren’t even in the contract.
Concentrate on essentials like making the weight. Don’t sweat the small stuff.Posted November 15, 2013 7:19 pm
hard to train when you win the million dollar tournamentPosted November 15, 2013 7:09 pm
Killing Moon The Soothsayer
Was not planning on watching it anyway….But seeing that Ward is fighting a complete unprofessional Screw-up…Well…Still not watching it.Posted November 15, 2013 7:02 pm
Terrible. All that garbage he talked, holding out for more money, talking trash about the drug test and then he comes I heavy. He should of been training instead of talking.Posted November 15, 2013 7:01 pm
Da UnKnown Comic
another tainted victory for punk ass wardPosted November 15, 2013 6:55 pm
That’s crazy…, Edwin screwed up big time. It’s one thing to come in a half pound heavy. That you can make without too much trouble.. Two pounds heavy is riidiculous.
It shows just how far Ronnie Shields has his head up his butt.Posted November 15, 2013 6:53 pm