B Red, stop with that GGG nonsense. He is a MONSTER!Posted September 23, 2013 9:44 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Listen to SREDMOND and HappyGirl struggle to make lame excuses why FMJ should’nt fight 3G at his very own weight class (154lbs). These two sound like a couple of nut-hugging fan-boyz will will do anything to make sure that their lil’ brotha doesn’t fight the very best in the world at Jr. MW. What a couple of clowns! REAL fight fans want to see the best fight the best, and clearly you fools don’t.
Floyd needs to prove his greatness by fighting 3G and Lara or Trout at 154lbs, and PacMan, Broner and Garcia at WW. I seriously doubt FMJ will take any of those fights because he’s the cherry-picking chess master of over-hyped promotions. Enough said!Posted September 19, 2013 5:10 am
Mayweather is 37yrs and will retire by 2015, let GGG build his legacy by fighting legitimate MW and SMW create his aura free 0f Mayweather. There are plenty challanges be it Martinez, Andre Ward, Carl Fr0ch, Lara, Alvarez etc screw the sh0rt cut which is Mayweather a small WW.Posted September 19, 2013 2:53 am
HEND0 – N0 L0GIC IN THIS HATERS, WE SH0ULD NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE PRIDICTABILITY 0F STUPID P0STERS. FL0YD STRUGGLES T0 MAKE 152LBS AND HE MUST FIGHT A MW WH0 WALKS AR0UND 6-8LBS AB0VE HIS FIGHTING WEIGHT, WHY D0ES GGG N0T FIGHT S0G AND FR0CH AND ST0P HAVING WET DREAMS AB0UT A SMALL WW.Posted September 19, 2013 2:43 am
Maur0 – n0thing w0rse than a p0ster wh0 can’t even get basic facts right. Alvarez, C0TT0, 0rtiz, Guerrer0 were all y0unger than Mayweather. If he faught GGG and beat him the same excuses will c0me up, weight drained, weak resume etc. St0p with y0ur bs and have GGG fight s0me0ne with a heartbeat, first be it Martinez, Andre Ward/ s0me 154lbs like Lara, etc. Y0UR P0STS S0UND STUPID AND DESPERATEPosted September 19, 2013 2:32 am
raygordonreid tell esb where to go.Posted September 18, 2013 6:13 pm
esb i post fast because i think fast. i could slow down my thinking process but then i might get mistaken for a mayweather loverPosted September 18, 2013 6:12 pm
thank you yuriPosted September 18, 2013 6:08 pm
the mayweather lovers say ggg is a big mw. a big mw who only walks around at 7-8 lbs the division limit he fights in? and up until a last november, probably even more recently, walked around at 161-162 lbs. a big mw whose absolute all time heaviest weight scaled 170 lbs, which was a one off, that’s less than canelo weighed against trout and 2 lbs less than what he walked into camp for the mayweather fight. mayweather lovers proven wrong yet again.
they say ggg will be too weak at 154, but canelo who weighed 172 against trout and walks around at a heavier weight than ggg was not weight drained when he fought mayweather? lolz please make some kind of attempt to be consistent in order to make my job at least a little challenging, even a token attempt would force me to stop and think for a second or two until i saw through it.
they say mayweather will beat ggg easily, ggg’s style won’t work against mayweather. castillo did pretty good against him. he kicked his ass. rofl. because ggg is just a crude banger, no? he’s too slow, he’ll be chasing shadows all night? well it should be an easy win for mayweather then, no? then why not fight him then? actually screw the catchweight if it’s going to be so easy, let mayweather come up to 160 and win a belt in another division if it’ll be such a breeze. that would really be something special, yeah? taking a big, big risk like the real legends who came before him did for kicks and giggles. a much bigger risks than mayweather has ever dared to take. legends who fought and beat great fighters who were in their prime for kicks and giggles.
Like billy conn who turned pro at 135 (no amateur experience) and 7 years later, after moving his way up through the divisions, and fighting and beating all manner of legends, hall of famers, great fighters, despite being outweighed by 30 lbs he jumped at the chance to fight the legendary joe louis, arguably the greatest of all time and a terrifying puncher with both hands who used to bowl over the greatest hws of his day like they were emaciated children dragged off hospital wards, some of whom were 240 to 260 lb giants, and they were very good giants not big bums. there aren’t any more terrifying prospects a fighter can face than seeing a prime joe louis standing in the opposite corner to them. speed, pinpoint accuracy, and bone crunching power in either fist. one more time, conn was 30 lbs lighter than louis. if little billy conn can face louis at hw then why not mayweather ggg if he’s so great?Posted September 18, 2013 6:06 pm
GGG has not fought any of the top 10 fighters in his division… You are giving him credit for beating “C” class fighter… And that makes you think he can beat “TBE”…
GGG can come down anytime to fight TBE in 147 Lbs so he and you can get a boxing lesson, that’s going to be tattooed forever in your memory and give you nightmare for years to come. LOL
TBE is the money maker, P4P King, and the one who has every boxer dreaming of him… You can hate him all you want but it’s all you talk about. LOLPosted September 18, 2013 3:25 pm
Ok is GGG is so hell bent on the Mayweather shot lets see him drop to 154 and beat some top guys at the weight before he calls out the Unified Ring Champion of his division???? Let him face Trout, Canelo or Lara and earn a shot… Garcia proved more at 140 than GGG EVER has, Matthysee was the most feared man at 140 and Garcia banged with him and proves his mettle along with stopping Khan…GGG’a best win is a Martinez leftover and a couple sub world class fighters who were better at 154 Rosado and Ishida… Canelo grabbed some realestate before he got the Mayweather shot what has Golovkin got?? Sergio Martinez is the recognized Champ at 160 and he fought the toughest available to get there… AGAIN if Floyd can’t fight why are you guys calling for GGG to drop a weight class and face a guy that will get him no respect if he does win according to you? See the downfall of doublespeak dullards… I’m so tired of the “drained” excuse I could puke…Posted September 18, 2013 2:02 pm
DEATH STAR ESB TELLS ME TO SLOW DOWNPosted September 18, 2013 1:09 pm
Death star you are posting to fast,,,,slow down..Posted September 18, 2013 1:02 pm
GGG KOs Floyd through the ropes in 5. All you May lovers will poop your pants.Posted September 18, 2013 12:39 pm
First of all GGG would get 3million and an autographed picture of Floyds rear end at best… Canelo got Big Money because he actually brought a fanbase to the production and the perception he had a shot…. NO ONE outside hardcore fans know GGG nor any of his opponents… At least Canelo was the guy who beat the guy who beat Cotto who is the #3 PPv guy over the years… We all know GGG like Martinez is not a 154 pound fighter, we heard for months Canelo could not get from 154 to 152 now we would be bored to tears listening to how GGG killed himself to make 154 when he loses… Truth is that Golovkin does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Floyd Mayweather he’s a guy who is NOT the proven best in a division that is really 2 above where Floyd fights… If beating Macklin is the marker of Greatness them Martinez deserves the shot first because he stopped the guy BEFORE GGG and has a more impressive résumé at 160 by plenty… But the reality is that these needy fighters who cannot build names are not gonna get to fight Mayweather coming from 160 pounds… You guys need to abandon hear pipe dreams, GGG’s big dream is to fight a WW? GTFOH… Guys a Mayweather foot servant begging for a subsidy and a loss on his record while bringing no fans… GGG is a tough MW, he should concentrate on proving himself against some BETTER 160 pound opponents…Posted September 18, 2013 12:34 pm
Poor article, Amir khan is not too slow and probably floyds toughest test as much i dislike that kid. sergio no way, GGG no way, there is nobody out there right now at 154 or lower that can beat mayweatherPosted September 18, 2013 11:12 am
“So why would Floyd take that fight????? ”
Why would Floyd take a fight with Khan? Money.Posted September 18, 2013 9:26 am
GLENNADY VS FLOYDPosted September 18, 2013 8:37 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
“Squared Circle… If Grennady Golovkin can make 154 and fight his best it would amaze me.. He’s as big as Canelo..”
Sorry, but no, he’s not as big as Canelo. Just take a close look at 3G’s physique. He’s skinny, with narrow shoulders and isn’t carrying much muscle mass. He’s built like a swimmer and looks like he hasn’t done any weigh-training in his entire life. Canelo is shorter and much more bulky than 3G. In fact, FMJ had the height and reach and speed advantages over Canelo, so still had the significant physical advantages.
Totally agree with,”Golovkin is a masterful boxer and crushing puncher. His punches are extremely compact and he cuts the ring off better than any living boxer. He takes people who Sergio Martinez had a very hard time with and doesn’t let them live. He obliterates them.”
And now that FMJ is the lineal, Ring Jr. MW Champion of the World, he should definitely agree to fight 3G because he can EASILY make weight at 154lbs. This is what all hardcore fans want to see, but as we already know… FMJ isn’t interested in fighting the very best. He’s interested in taking the lowest risks for the highest rewards.
Otherwise, he would’ve already fought Pac at WW and Maravilla at 154lbs years ago. FMJ does NOT live the way of the warrior, like they do in UFC/MMA, he lives the life a grossly overpaid prima-donna boxer who will continue to avoid the very best in order to retire undefeated. Agree that Garica is a great match-up that FMJ should take,, but even then Floyd will have the significant physical advantages (reach, weight, size).Posted September 18, 2013 6:23 am
Hec – Pac refused the test, $40M, scared 0f needles, building a stadium……g0t a gift decis0n, g0t r0bbed, KTF0 then signed a new C0NTRACT with T0P RANK! D0ES IT S0UND LIKE HE WANTS T0 FIGHT FL0YD?Posted September 18, 2013 4:45 am
dear author…….were you being serious when you said that amir khan is slow? please say its a joke. khan for all of his many faults is absolutely lightning fastPosted September 18, 2013 3:26 am
Remember Oscar De La Hoya fought at 130, 135, 140, and 147 until he was almost 30… Yet when Oscar tried to come back down to 147 to face Pacquiao what happened???
Exactly!!!! Coming down in weight is nearly always a disaster. I’ve always cautioned boxers NOT to do it for ANY reason once they’ve spent a significant number of fights at a higher weight.Posted September 18, 2013 1:52 am
Squared Circle… If Grennady Golovkin can make 154 and fight his best it would amaze me.. He’s as big as Canelo.. Obviously he would try to do it for 10 million dollars, but it’s NEVER a good idea to go down in weight.. I can give you a million stories were it just didn’t work.
And I still think it’s a pipe dream.. Floyd wouldn’t be smart to fight any more fights at 154.. He had the perfect scenarios with De La Hoya, Cotto, and Canelo, none of whom is a GGG type puncher, or a great boxer. Floyd could just punch them with ease with nothing coming back.
People shouldn’t get their hopes up for fights that won’t happen. The next fight for Floyd will be Danny Garcia… and the next for GGG is Curtis Stevens because he can’t get Quillin and Martinez to fight.. But eventually they’ll have to fight him or quit.. They’ll look like cowardsPosted September 18, 2013 1:46 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
No TARK, 3G is a small MW (like Maravilla) who can easily make weight at 154lbs. And FMJ is now the lineal, Ring Jr. MW Champion of the World, so he better defend those 3 MAJOR titles against the best who can make weight at 154lbs.
3G steps into the ring on fight nights weighing less that most of the top Jr, MWs. What does that tell you???
Maravilla is a natural 154lbs fighter who just moved up to MW a few years ago. He’s been begging for a fight with FMJ at 154lbs forever, but of course Floyd wouldn’t agree to fight Martinez. Simply too much risk — just like 3G.Posted September 18, 2013 1:20 am
This pundit says.., “Golovkin is way too slow and throws way too wide, leaving himself open for a variety of Mayweather Jr. deliveries. Mayweather Jr. wins with minimal effort.”
That is absolute trash analysis and just stupid.. Golovkin is a masterful boxer and crushing puncher. His punches are extremely compact and he cuts the ring off better than any living boxer. He takes people who Sergio Martinez had a very hard time with and doesn’t let them live. He obliterates them.
He is not Canelo who let Matt Hatton go the distance.. He is not 22 years old.. He didn’t have 35 amateur fights. He is not Robert Guerrero who begs you to punch him in the face.. Plus, let’s face it — Grennady is a middleweight.
If Floyd was going to fight a middleweight he would have fought Jermain Taylor after he fought De La Hoya.. Taylor was an extremely beatable middleweight for Floyd … Golovkin is not. The fight won’t happen so you’re talking fantasy. Is Rigondeaux going to fight Mikey Garcia??? It’s a better matchup.
Floyd is going to fight Danny Garcia next… Get used to it.Posted September 18, 2013 1:05 am
GGG has the same problem that Canelo had vs. Floyd. He’s TOO SLOW.Posted September 17, 2013 11:55 pm
GGG would get SPANKED by Kovalev. Kovalev is only #6 on MY personal P4P list but he’d sure put a royal SPANKING on Golovkin. SO just think what the #1 guy on MY list would DO.Posted September 17, 2013 11:53 pm
Death Star and Squared Circle have very good boxing understanding. I have respect for you. You write good intelligent words.
Everyone who have watch Golovkin know he small middle weight and can make 154 and also know he very fast with feet and very powerful punches in both fist. Mayweather stand no chance against him. If his fans think different why they so scared? Why they name all other fighters and use every excuse in mind to say no to Golovkin??
I see Redmond write many long reason for Mayweather NOT to fight Golovkin and say Mayweather would win against him. Then if he so sure why not he say “Ok then I agree. Mayweather should fight Golovkin” To prove Redmond is right. This is fair yes? But this is not happening, Redmond and Mayweather fan like him write every reason NOT to fight Golovkin because they know in their heart Mayweather will lose very fast! This not about 154, Golovkin said he will fight any one at that weight. This about fear! Excuses. And more Excuses.
I agree with Square Circle when he say Mayweather fans send him message on Twitter and say you can beat Golovkin at 154 prove it to world.
And all Golovkin fans send Mayweather message on Twitter, fight Golovkin! Prove you can beat him.
We all know Pacman, Khan, Bradley, Alexander, Martinez, will lose to Mayweather. This is easy to see. But Golovkin different story and Mayweather know this.
Mayweather want to be seen as best in world, he must fight best fighters and Golovkin at 154 is best and most dangerous and Mayweather know this.
If Mayweather retire and not fight Golovkin, whole world know he ran away.
No hate for Mayweather, he very great fighter, no hate for any fighter, big respect for all who step in ring. But to be name best you must fight best. Golovkin!
If you real fight fans, then you want to see great exciting fight yes? Mayweather v Golovkin biggest most exciting fight in world now. This is true. Very big danger for Mayweather to fight Golovkin. Has Mayweather courage to fight Golovkin at 154 or will he run away from Golovkin? Time will tell us all.Posted September 17, 2013 11:36 pm
Keith Williams.., You’re a babbling idiot.. Probably Ivanov’s motherPosted September 17, 2013 10:21 pm
It’ll go down as follows….Mayweather vs Khan if his head doesn’t fall off vs Alexander. I don’t agree with that being made, however the PPV U.K dollars r a factor. Than Garcia, than Sergio. U heard it here 1stPosted September 17, 2013 10:04 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
“If Floyd were dumb enough to fight Golovkin he’d have his head taken off… NO way in HELL is Floyd ever going to fight GGG.”
That is a FACT. FMJ will NEVER agree to fight 3G at 154lbs and he’ll never fight PacMan at WW — unless Pac loses to Rios and shows he’s totally shot and way past his prime. How can FMJ be the GOAT or greatest of his generation when he outright refused to fight the best when they were prime??? Answer: He can’t be and he’s not. He’s a great boxer and very talented, but certainly not the best.
The greatest boxers of their era ALWAYS fight the very best competition in the world and never duck anybody. And that’s why they don’t go undefeated. How many undefeated pro MMA/UFC fighters are there in the world??? None. That’s because the best are forced to fight the best. Ducking and avoiding the best is NOT tolerated in pro MMA — and that’s why real fight fans love it. Real talk.Posted September 17, 2013 8:42 pm
Haimat, Tark, these are all closet man lovers of Floyd who are piqued because he ignores them. They wet their pants every time he fights, and try to offset that with their hateful vents. When Floyd retires unbeaten all of them will have to ensure that they have proper medical coverage because they will become susceptible to heart attacks.
There is nothing more tragic than a bunch of people wishing on a star for something to happen and being disappointed every time. Poor turds. Go home and lick your wounds, your latest hope was taken to boxing school. At least he will become a better fighter because of it, and Floyd was very gracious in victory. Can’t say the same for the crazy wild eyed haters. They will wet their drawers every night until another hope comes along, gives them some hope, only to disappoint them all over again. That is deja vu you turds.Posted September 17, 2013 8:39 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
“If Floyd wanted to defend at 154 there are actual 154 pounders in line… But Mayweather is not a 154 pound fighter he’s dropping back down to 147…”
Hey IDIOT, FMJ is now the lineal, Ring Jr. MW Champion of the World. Can you comprehend with your pea-sized brain what that means??? It’s means he MUST defend the titles and fight the very best boxers in the world who can make weight at 154lbs (3G, Lara, Martinez).
It sounds like you’re saying he’s going to vacate 3 MAJOR 154lbs titles like a scared little b*tch and only fight at WW — where has has all the height and reach advantages. Shoot… FMJ even had the height and reach advantages over Canelo. Almost everybody picked FMJ to win by decision, but you said he would stop Canelo. I said he would NEVER stop Canelo and was totally right about that. FMJ never even rocked, wobbled, or hurt Canelo one time.
And he ran the entire 12th round like a track star. FMJ is a very talented boxer, yes, but he NOT a real fighter. And if you’re not a real fighter, then your far from being a real warrior.Posted September 17, 2013 8:33 pm
If Floyd were dumb enough to fight Golovkin he’d have his head taken off… NO way in HELL is Floyd ever going to fight GGG.
Danny Garcia is a great opponent for Floyd… He should concentrate on making that fight and is not going to even think about GGG… It’s a super dumb matchup for him because GGG is a great boxer and puncher… I want to see Martinez and Quillin against GGG and then in a couple years see GGG go after 168.
Floyd will be retired with 50 wins an no losses by that time.Posted September 17, 2013 8:12 pm
Sredmond.., What the Hell do you know???
You picked Peterson to outbox Matthysse… You picked Matthysse to KO Garcia.Posted September 17, 2013 8:08 pm
GGG is a construct in you guys minds you don’t want him to prove himself at 160 you want him to prove himself at 147… This guy would have an EASIER time cutting off his head than the ring against Floyd… That search and destroy approach is fine against regular fighters, Mayweather would tag the overhyped GGG to death… But alas why are we discussing this?
MAYWEATHER VS PACQUIOA next. Make it happen.Posted September 17, 2013 7:56 pm
Floyd is also the WW Champion he can choose to defend there it’s simply his world and relatively unaccomplished boxers like GGG are just living in it still discussing amateur exploits because their pro resume is WEAK… If Floyd wanted to defend at 154 there are actual 154 pounders in line… But Mayweather is not a 154 pound fighter he’s dropping back down to 147 and GGG is sadly gonna actually have to fight 160 pounders… How sad is that for him? HAHAHAHAHAHA!Posted September 17, 2013 7:54 pm
Squared Circle, you say “fight night weights mean nothing” that said Floyd being on weight with his opponents means he has NEVER been the bigger man absent a couple pounds.. So you retract all comments about him facing smaller boxers? You cannot have it BOTH ways… That said OF course the size of your opponent the night of The fight is a consideration… Would you be OK with FMJ having 15 pounds in another fighter the evening of the bout? GTFOH you would be spilling vaginal blood all over the message board… You don’t want guys coming down 2 pounds but your Ok with GGG coming down 7 pounds? Utterly illogical…Posted September 17, 2013 7:50 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
“Floyd can face GGG and would SCHOOL him.” Then PROVE it! 3G has been calling out and challenging all the top champions from 154lbs to 168lbs for close to two years now. That includes FMJ, WARD and Maravilla and none of them will dare mention 3G’s name in an interview. That’s what you call FEAR.
3G cuts off the ring better than anyone I’ve ever seen and as some of the best fundamental technique in the world. He’s an all around better boxer than FMJ, but happens to have a granite chin and scary power. He would simply pressure and corner FMJ, outbox him and hurt him with everything he lands.
If you fan-boyz are so confident your boy can beat 3G, then start writing tweets and emails to FMJ demanding that he fight and “school” 3G at 154lbs.
Floyd can face GGG and would SCHOOL him. No man heavier than 150 is going to be fast enough to catch Floyd. Unless you reincarnate a Prime Roy Jones Jr. ..and GGG is not that.Posted September 17, 2013 6:55 pm
GGG will sign to fight with Floyd at 154 any day of the week. GGG was one of the best amateur fighters of his generation and has fought all different styles. Floyd would try to pop shot and get away, shrimp-style all night. The same way he fought Guerrero and Canelo.
GGG would cut off the ring, put intelligent pressure on Floyd and hit him with hard precise punches when ever he got an opportunity. It’s a whole different game than having Guerrero or Canelo plodding after you. Still Floyd lost rounds against these guys. Floyd has very little pop at 147 and above so GGG could focus on offense and inflicting damage. I would put money down on 3G should that fight ever happen(which it won’t since Floyd would never fight someone that poses any kind of threat)
Floyd’s 100% business man and that’s why we’ll never see Floyd and GGG fight.Posted September 17, 2013 6:11 pm
People want to talk about 3G but yet he has never made 154 in his pro career. They talk about how Dawson and Canelo where weight drained yet the say Floyd needs to fight 3G. Until he actually makes 154 and looks good. There is no need to mention him and Floyd fighting. RidiculousPosted September 17, 2013 5:49 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
“As for ‘Smaller’ when did Floyd outweigh and opponent by 15 pounds the way Canelo did him? or 14 like Ortiz did him? OH both those guys were 13 and 10 years YOUNGER than Floyd (Guerrero 7) Cotto (4)…. Ahhh Cotto had a good 12 pounds on him, Oscar 12 or so..”
When are you finally going to get in through your thick skull that it’s totally IRRELEVANT what boxers weigh on fights night??? The ONLY think that matters in pro boxing is if a fighter can make weight at the official weigh-ins. Clearly, you have never boxed or wrestled, otherwise you’d accept that cutting weight and re-hydrating a MAJOR part of the sport. Stop complaining about it or find a new sport to folllow, you old b*tch.
FMJ is now the lineal, Ring Jr. MW Champion of the World, which means he must defend those 3 Major 154lbs world titles against the very best who can make 154lbs ( 3G, Lara, Maravilla). IF FMJ refuses to defend those 3 major 154lbs titles, then he must VACATE like a COWARD.
FMJ LOST his fight to Castillo, ducked PacMan and Martinez at 154lbs for years, and will NEVER fight 3G or Lara at 154lbs. All these actions mean that we’re talking about a great fighter, but certainly NOT the GOAT or “greatest fighter of his generation.” All your outlandish and exaggerated excuses will NEVER change this obvious reality. Real talk.Posted September 17, 2013 5:48 pm
harry greb started out at ww and fought and beat gene tunney at hw.
sam langford beat joe gans at lightweight and beat harry wills, joe jeanette and sam mcvey at hw
roy jones started out at 154 and beat ruiz at hw
henry armstrong held the featherweight, lightweight, and welterweight simultaneously (in the era of only 8 divisions) and fought the mw champion to a draw
duran started out at bantam/super bantamweight and beat iran barkley who was a gigantic mw.
thomas hearns started out at 147 and beat vigil hill at lh and went up to cw and was still knocking mofos out
billy conn started out at lightweight and came very close to beating the absolutely murderous punching wonderful hw, arguably the greatest, joe louis
mickey walker started out at 144 ish and fought legends all the way from ww to hw, big and huge punching ones
Georges Carpentier started out at 147 and fought legendary fighters right up to hw
but mayweather the self-proclaimed greatest of all time can’t fight small mw golovkin who will weigh an absolute maximum of a couple of lbs more than victor ortiz and canelo weighed against him but in actuality probably the same weight as them?Posted September 17, 2013 5:38 pm
Q – Public Enemy-Sredmond 3 mosqueteras
Now that Mayweather is done fighting a ” big ” middleweight maybe now he face his nightmare and fight ” little ” Pacquioa.Posted September 17, 2013 5:29 pm
even if ggg weighed more than ortiz and canelo did against mayweather it would only be by 1 or 2 lbs. i’ll say it again, up until last november ggg walked around before training at 160-162.Posted September 17, 2013 5:15 pm
Mick the Marmalizer
The main problem that Boxing has now is that PBF will not defend @ 154Lb & the title’s will be split again. It’s obvious that he’s the #1 P4P’er in the World, but I’d like to see the weight hopping stop. Floyd VS Canelo should have been made @ the official light-middleweight limit of 154Lb. Mayweather Vs Bradley or Pacman could work @ 147Lb, but Khan doesn’t deserve a crack. However CA$H/MON£Y talks & if a fight with Amir could be made in the UK next Summer then who knows?Posted September 17, 2013 4:35 pm
“I am boxing”!…so boldly stated FMJ. So, Floyd, be boxing, and defend your titles to all top ten rated contenders in the two weight divisions 147lbs and 152lbs…no catchweights!Posted September 17, 2013 3:49 pm
Hecdog loves and APPLAUDS Manny Pacquiao everytime he takes a dump and Manny was fighting an OLDER version of Marquez when he got knocked out than Mayweather at the SAME weight Floyd fought him at (May was 146 that night)….. Manny fought an OLDER version of Oscar De La Hoya, he fought an OLDER version of Ricky Hatton… Yet Hecdog does NOT seem to liberally deduct credit from Pacquiaos resume as he does Floyd…. Floyd is OLDER than Manny thats simply a biological fact of life BUT there is a triple standard in play because Pacquiao is simply NOT as skilled a boxer as Mayweather… At his best he is an AWESOME ATG fighter but there is a solution for him (Marquez) whereas Marquez would not have been wrong to just QUIT in the 8th round against Floyd it was an exercise in futility….Posted September 17, 2013 2:49 pm
Floyd is “past his prime” he is certainly and OLD fighter by most standards despite his ability to perform… As for “Smaller” when did Floyd outweigh and opponent by 15 pounds the way Canelo did him? or 14 like Ortiz did him? OH both those guys were 13 and 10 years YOUNGER than Floyd (Guerrero 7) Cotto (4)…. Ahhh Cotto had a good 12 pounds on him, Oscar 12 or so…. So cut the nonsense that Floyds opponents are all small Mayweathers weight is CONSISTENT he is a TRUE WW fighter and if we don’t wanna see guys go up or down then we have to hold that TRUE for him.. NO MORE trips to 154 or calls for a BIG 160 pounder to come down for one night then rehydrate with massive advantages in weight GGG or Martinez…. Again you guys like Hecdog don’t have “Double Standards” you have TRIPLE standards…Posted September 17, 2013 2:46 pm
What about GGG’s resume suggests that he is the guy to beat Floyd Mayweather? you guys did not respect Guerrero winning titles in multiple divisions and beating down a WW Champ like Berto so what about GGG’s resume says this is the guy to do the job just for arguments sake…. NOTHING if you think he is Great for his caliber of opposition then you must think that Alvarez and Guerrero were Great because they don’t lag GGG in the quality department in the SLIGHTEST…. AGAIN what about his ACTUAL wins makes him Great? The answer is that GGG is MUCH BIGGER than Floyd Mayweather so you wanna see if he can negate the speed and skill weight class be damned…Golovkins resume is simply NOT impressive, and the dominant movement amongst the Ant-Mayweather faction is that his opponents are not quality if that is the case then why is GGG even being discussed… Because of Macklin? GGG does NOT even have an OLD Champ like Mosley on his resume unless you think Kassim Ouma who’s best days were at 154 is a “Boss”….. Canelo Unified his division at a YOUNG age against another guy people thought would do Mayweather in (Trout) So AGAIN I ask from the perspective of accomplishment what has GGG done that makes him BETTER than Guerrero or Alvarez? ANSWER NOTHING…. He’s just a BIGGER stronger, heavyhanded fighter that you HOPE can land the KO punch on a guy thats really a FULL 2 weight classes below him and began at 130….Its NOT gonna happen so I expect a MASS suicide with notes from all the goons banking on this scenario…Posted September 17, 2013 2:41 pm
Happy Boy my friend, Floyd is very good at what he does, but far from being one of the great ones. His selection of quality opponents that were either old and past their prime or smaller guys or opponents with no talent tell the story. He avoided all the top prime fighters in his time, and ran from the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Floyd did look great beating a novice, weight weakened, one dimensional Canelo, and the smart boxing fan knew it. Floyd is about money, but never took on anyone except Diego Corrales in his prime. Oscar old, Cotto old, Marquez small/old. We can go on and on. The story remains the same.Posted September 17, 2013 2:36 pm
Can’t think of anybody being a danger to Money @154 and below. Of course, FMJ should not fight @160, the guys there are much slower than him, but if one of him pushes him in the corner and throws everything but the kitchen sink at him, it would be too much for Floyd. He simply is no MW, so GGG or Martinez are no option, unless he lures them down to 154, which would be fights I wouldn’t buy. Money is too good for the smaller guys, but he sure as hell is not an exciting fighter to watch, unless you like the art of boxing more than brawling. That’s why many people don’t like Money: he is no ko machine, and he is too dominant for his own good. But why should he care? He’s lauging about the haters all the way to the bank. I myself respect him for being an extremely skilled boxer with great ring intelligence, but – like the Klitschkos at hw – he is just too dominant, although he doesn’t know his opponents out like the Klitschkos usually do. Dominant guys are always hated by a lot of people who wait to see them fall just to say: “See, I’m right. They’ve never been good.”Posted September 17, 2013 2:36 pm
The only opponents you want Floyd to fight are heavier fighter (Middle Weight) and on top of that you want Floyd to fight in a disadvantage?!? ROFL.
May Haters, tell any of your boxers to come and fight Floyd at 147 Lbs… Period. And we’ll see who’s the P4P King.Posted September 17, 2013 1:43 pm
He is” 0NE” 0F THE BEST ALREADY DUMB ASS!GTF0H!Posted September 17, 2013 12:38 pm
If Floyd wants to really challenge himself, he should try GGG, but I’ll tell you right now, he won’t beat GGG. He has the right style, size, experience to beat Floyd’s style. And we’re probably asking a lot of Floyd to fight him, but if he really wants to be in the conversation of being one of the best of all time, he should take him on. His career wins vs older, smaller or lower level skilled guys as well as avoiding Kostyzu, Prime Mosely, Prime Oscar and of course the legendary Manny Pacquiao taints his record. Floyd is a very good fighter, but he dodged plenty of good fighters, and went for the money when he had the ability to maybe beat them guys mentioned. Floyd will be remembered for what he wants to be remembered for, which is all his money and crazy personal life. He tainted and wrote his own image.Posted September 17, 2013 12:28 pm
Seeing a lot of comments about GGG posing a challenge to Floyd. He is not good enough in any area of boxing skill to pose a threat to Floyd. Lack if Skill along with a super weak résumé might I add. Y’all are reaching with this one.Posted September 17, 2013 12:26 pm
I G0T A BETTER IDEA WHY N0T FIGHT THE KLITSCH0S, 0NE IN THE M0RNING AND THE 0THER IN THE EVENING. THEN HE CAN BE ” TBE” .Posted September 17, 2013 12:20 pm
Floyducker is a punk coward. Fight GGG u moronPosted September 17, 2013 11:55 am
Pacman has a one KO punch, but he cannot beat Marquez, let alone the master counter puncher, TBE, Floyd Money Mayweather. LOL
That must be painful for the May Haters…Posted September 17, 2013 11:44 am
This article is as masterful as Floyd Mayweather…
Haters can not just be happy for “TBE”… They want Floyd to fight a middle weight boxer. ROFL… and on top of that they want Floyd to give an advantage to the bigger guy?!?… if you haters think Floyd is not that good than why do you want him to fight in a disavantage….
You want Money? come down to 147 Lbs… Period… Let see who is the best Welterweigh in the world and pound for pound king…Posted September 17, 2013 11:34 am
Floyd has only been involved in 2 catch weight bouts.
The first was with DINAMITA in which Floyd would forfeit a hefty sum for every pound he came in over the catch weight limit in his comeback bout made at Welterweight. I can’ t remember the weight stip, but Floyd chose to forfeit the money….
Saturday was a stipulation his team negotiated for Canelo to weigh in at 152lbs or less, with no limit on how much he could rehydrate to.
Just to make it clear so you can understand FLOYD fought both ODLH & COTTO at a weight that favoured them of 154lbs with NO rehydration limits…
You are MISTAKING ODLH & COTTO for the stipulations negotiated by the PACMAN camp, where ODLH came in at the WELTERWEIGHT limit of 147 and was NOT allowed to rehydrate over a certain limit – hence, he came into the ring looking more like HEARNS in ’81 when he fought LEONARD………………. And COTTO could not weigh in more than 144 if I remember, which is 3 lbs under he Welterweight limit……
I hope this clears your fuddled outlook!!!!!!??????!!!Posted September 17, 2013 10:55 am
Yuri – ANY B0XING FAN KN0WS THAT GGS HAS N0 BUSINESS FIGHTING MAYWEATHER, DUMBB ASS WHY N0T PICK 0N ANDRE WARD @SMW?Posted September 17, 2013 10:54 am
Triple G would get his ass whipped by Floyd at 154
Floyd stand no chance at against Golovkin. Not one chance.
Golovkin destroy Floyd easy, all real boxing fan know this. Floyd know it. That’s why he never fight Golovkin. Floyd very very scared of him.
Floyd lose in less than 6 rounds against Golovkin. Maybe in less than 3 rounds if Floyd run like rabbit as expected.
Mayweather stand no chance against Golovkin.
Floyd only pick fight he can win. Against Golovkin (at 154) Floyd lose very fast!Posted September 17, 2013 10:48 am
R0BE is an IDI0T can’t even get his facts right.Posted September 17, 2013 10:35 am
Problem with your analogy OJC is that Floyd wanted what other people had but he wanted it at his convenience. He wanted DLH 154 but made DLH come down. He wanted Cotto’s 154lb strap…but made Cotto come down….he wanted Canelo’s 154lbl strap…but made Canelo come down. Nobody from the 154lb division were fighting for Floyd’s 147lb trinkets. But that is besides the point….if floyd wants other 154lb titles….the schmuck needs to stop forcing catchweight concessions. It only shows he will not fight unless he feels he has some sort of advantage, whatever that advantage may be. There really aren’t any marketable fights that wil make him more than he made this past weekend although….there are fighters at 147 that would take it to him, problem is, compensation-wise is not worth it for Floyd, because as you know….Floyd only fights for himself…not the fans. Never has, never will.Posted September 17, 2013 9:51 am
This article was garbage. GGG could very well beat Floyd and Sergio could beat Floyd. OR Floyd could beat them both but you have too fight to see. If Tyson would have never fought Buster Douglas and died in a car crash then he would be considered the best fighter EVER by the media. Just like if Roy Jones would have retired after the Ruiz fight. Nobody knows. But I will say Floyd has dodged fighting the top fighters around him in their prime. And Canelo was by no means the most dangerous fighter from 147 to 160. GGG and or Martinez are the 2 fights I would like too see. Floyd is too big for Pac Man. Floyd was WAY bigger than Marquez when they fought.Posted September 17, 2013 8:00 am
Octavious- 100% agree. If want the king take his crown, not some1 else’s. not ur crown either. When ur no.1 pnd 4 pnd u call the shots, when and where. This has benn the way of every no.1 pnd 4 pnd.Posted September 17, 2013 7:37 am
Money vs. GGG would be a great fight, just make sure there is NO catchweight. Money would win by UD, but with GGGs power, he would be in danger for the full 12 rounds. But FMJ should be able to stay concentrated and on the run for the full distance, potshotting GGG when necessary.Posted September 17, 2013 6:57 am
I’m not bashing GGG. I like watching him….Plenty of guys r well known amateurs b4 going pro. Macklin ha ha nice 1. He’l b fighting serio if any middleweight. I’m also not a Floyd die hard.. I think he’s arrogant, and disrespectful….I also think his skill set and ability is 2nd none, not 2 mention his work ethic. It seems 2 me when ever Floyd win all the haterz jump on2 a bigger better guy. Who do u want him 2 fight if he was 2 beat GGG? Lets try Ward than mayb Klitchko….ppppffftPosted September 17, 2013 6:18 am
I mean if you think ggg is to big for mayweather then don’t bash him …Posted September 17, 2013 6:01 am
This ggg talk came from boxing fans who saw him destroy the guy macklin who was robed against sturm and gave big problem to Martinez and he was suppose to be a big test for ggg to see what level is he and he past it spectacularly plus the fact is that he has one of best amater record of all time and was known in boxing world prior to professional boxing …
Myself I don’t care if mayweather fights him of not but what pisses me of is when mayweather diehard fans like vitally just wrote in his article how ggg couldn’t even manage to land one punch one him …!!Posted September 17, 2013 5:59 am
Where has all this GGG talk come from? 4 a start Golovkin is a bid middleweight I’ve got no doubts he would b cutting at least 10pnd 2 make middleweight, so there go’s fighting at jr middle. 2 point what big name has GGG fought….Trust me, if Mayweather is 2 step up it will b against the bigger name who also is a smaller middleweight, and older….It will b SergioPosted September 17, 2013 5:49 am
Boxing Barlow – great post!Posted September 17, 2013 5:48 am
Hahahahaha vitally vitally ohhh vitally … You say you are not a jr mayweather fanatic???? Lol
After PAC beat cotto you said PAC took the advantage with a catch weight and also you said cotto was washed up since the loss to margarito but years after mayweather beat cotto you hailed mayweather as if he just beat the unbeaten fighter …and also why are you not mentioning the catch weight for his fight ??? Why was there a catch weight eh???Posted September 17, 2013 5:47 am
No way is Amir Khan too slow for Mayweather. He has a lot of faults and would get beat by Floyd IMO but speed is not one of Khans problems. Out of the the rest its Khan I would like to see Floyd in with Khan has to be my nunber too as I dont think Floyd has ever fought a fighter with Khans speed. This aside the reality is as much as this writer would like to play it down by suggesting its just another name, the name Manny Pacman is still by a country mile the biggest name Mayweather could add to his resume at this time or at any other time in his career! Mayweather is a god in boxing terms but Pacman is still the one we all want to see him fight.Posted September 17, 2013 5:42 am
GGG is a different animal all together than Canelo. He’s got 250 amateur fights, fighting top notch opponents for years and years. His amateur experience is much more impressive than Floyd’s. Canelo had 30 amateur fights on national level or something like that. It’s comparing a child to a grown man in terms of experience.
GGG has fought great boxers like Korobov and many others in the amateurs. Most top fighters in the amateurs use their footwork constantly like Floyd did against Canelo and Rigo did against Donaire. GGG knows what to do against this style. He’s fought a hundred guys who moves the whole time that won’t let you plant your feet.
There is a reason Floyd fought Canelo. He knew all the way that it would be easy work. There is also a reason why a fight with GGG has never even been discussed even though GGG has no problem fighting at 154.Posted September 17, 2013 4:02 am
Truth – U r an IDI0T, might as well bring the KBR0S T00 then M0R0N! why b0ther having weight divisi0ns. Mayweather is a WW get it thru y0ur thick skull.Posted September 17, 2013 3:46 am
First pick is middleweight king Sergio Martinez in 154 – he has skills, power and speed, than of course Pacman, Khan and Garcia in 147. Real dangerous is really Martinez!!!Posted September 17, 2013 3:43 am
one and two
If Devon alexander gets past kahn he will probable be next in line. He might even give mayweather some issues.Posted September 17, 2013 3:04 am
Floyd likes to get name fighters on the downside. Two years ago he pretended Martinez didn’t exist. Now that Martinez is a half gimp who breaks his knees in virtually every fight, I suspect it just might happen if Martinez can get down to 154 or 152. Maybe I’m hoping. In any case GGG won’t happen even though he offered to do so at 154. Too fresh, too skilled, too much power.Posted September 17, 2013 2:49 am
guys here a thing,,floyd really don’t want a fight vs pac,,,coz u know why? pac has an ability to KO his opponent at 1 single punch…Do u notice most of floyds opponent has not really a single deadly puncher??….with the speed and angles of pac plus a power punch can change the game of floyd,,,thats why floyd avoids pac,,,for real.Posted September 17, 2013 2:35 am
i wonder why ggg can’t boil off that weight but all these thousands upon thousands of other fighters can, many of which a lot more weight than ggg would have to lose?Posted September 17, 2013 1:57 am
roy jones weighed in at 160 but the next day was 180 and beat bernard hopkins. but apparently ggg can’t cut 14 lbs max, which is a common amount of weight to cut theses days, many fighters regularly cut a lot more, and be effective down at 154. ok. i get yaPosted September 17, 2013 1:50 am
Floyd punk scared to death by GGGPosted September 17, 2013 1:47 am
victor ortiz weighed 164 lbs against mayweather, ggg’s highest ever ring weight = 168Posted September 17, 2013 1:45 am
roy jones, Gerald McClellan weighing 180 lbs in the ring whilst fighting at mw (160) = huge mws
ggg maximum ring weight while fighting at mw 168 (8 lbs more than the division limit) = small mw
a year ago ggg’s trainer said ggg was walking around at 161-162 lbsPosted September 17, 2013 1:37 am
Who said Mayweather was terrified of Hatton or Oscar? Not me. To compare Williams to Corrales is ignorant. Floyd would NEVER have knocked out Williams the way Sergio did because Floyd is not concerned with entertaining the people that give him money (you people) or with legacy. He’s concerned with keeping an image of being the best so as to create interest from the casual sports fans. He would never risk opening himself up and land combinations with the intention of knocking out his opponents (unless they’re s small and even then it’s difficult for him). Of course Floyd won’t fight GGG at middleweight. That’s why GGG said he will come down to 154! Keep up with the conversation, and dint forget to give mayweather your money.Posted September 17, 2013 1:34 am
best clarify what i meant about ggg’s weight if he fought mayweather as i know some of you aren’t the brightest. ggg would probably weigh less than canelo did against floyd, not weigh less than mayweather. either that or he’d weigh the same or absolute worst case scenario 1 or 2 lbs more.Posted September 17, 2013 1:31 am
mayeather never fought williams silly. he never fought prime cotto or mosley either. he lost his urge and retired. poor argument therePosted September 17, 2013 1:27 am
no problem yuriPosted September 17, 2013 1:18 am
GGG murders Floyd. Floyd gets utterly destroyed in front of his familyPosted September 17, 2013 1:13 am
Yeah, Floyd was terrified to fight Paul Williams; Just like he was terrified to fight Hatton, De Le Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, and now Alvarez. And people know Floyd won’t fight at Middleweight, so now GGG has become the excuse not to give Floyd any credit. Truly pathetic.Posted September 17, 2013 1:10 am
Floyd was terrified to fight Paul Williams? LMAO! *SMH*Posted September 17, 2013 1:06 am
Mayweather wasn’t “terrified” when people mentioned Paul Williams…
Williams was too easy to hit with lead hooks, one of Floyd’s favorite attacks against tall guys.. Williams low right lead made him a sitting duck for Lara and others.. Sergio Martinez knocked Paul into the middle of next Tuesday with a loaded up left hand bomb.
Floyd was too slick for the defenseless Williams, who would have hooked him to death and stopped him like he did Corrales.Posted September 17, 2013 12:59 am
Yuri – the guys in GGG’s own division are supposedley ducking him and its a fairly stacked division at the moment a bit like SMW was until the super 6 then we new who the top dog was. Like I said plenty of unfinished business there, besides Floyd only takes calculated risks we all know that, for GGG to even get a mention by Floyd he will probably ask him to take some fights at JMW first or come in at a catch weight or something, he did it for a guy who was a legit 154 pounder in Canelo. I would rather see GGG vs Martinez any day then anyone Floyd is considering facing next. Im not hating on Floyd, in fact I dont think he belongs in JMW, the guy is just that good that he can own that division to, thats something GGG should try and do with MW.Posted September 17, 2013 12:35 am
It’s true. Mayweather won’t fight GGG. Just like he was terrified when people mentioned Paul Williams at 147. Mayweather fought Cotto and Canelo at jr middleweight. GGG says he’ll come down to 154. So why are mayweather fans saying that he shouldn’t fight middleweights? I guess there’s no logical inconsistency in saying it’s ok for mayweather to fight a blown up jr lightweight in Marquez but not GGG at 154 where mayweather is champion now. Not to mention mayweather cheated coming in overweight against marquez. Yeah that’s ok. Keep giving mayweather your money, morons.Posted September 17, 2013 12:05 am
LMAO! Are you serious? Now you haters want Floyd to fight middleweights? Pathetic. These no hope for you people.Posted September 16, 2013 11:55 pm
The only way Floyd will finally lose, is when age gets the best of him and he doesn’t have it anymore. other than that, no boxer has the puzzle piece solve beat Mayweather.Posted September 16, 2013 11:54 pm
Yuri, now Money May is ducking GGG… LMAO, those haters are beyond helpPosted September 16, 2013 11:48 pm
lman you see what I mean? Even Mayweather fans want him to stay away from Golovkin. They terrified that Mayweather will get destroyed. Keep feeding Mayweather fights he can win. Keep Mayweather away from Golovkin. Hahahaha
Now you use belts as excuse to keep Mayweather away from Golovkin.
Say anything to keep Mayweather away from Golovkin!Posted September 16, 2013 11:38 pm
GGG and the rest of the MW division need to sort themselves out, get a clear frontrunner, I wouldnt expect Floyd to move up there to chase a fight, I did suggest on a post a while ago that if Floyd wanted to add a MW title to his legacy he should chase one of the belt holders who would be the least threat, at the time Geale was IBF champion but now its Darren Barker, theres your UK fight right there.Posted September 16, 2013 11:30 pm
Mean mug Canelo better than Golovkin?? HahahahaPosted September 16, 2013 11:19 pm
I think canelo a better boxer than ggg.Posted September 16, 2013 11:11 pm
Mean mug it make no difference Mayweather will always run away from Golovkin. He know Golovkin beat him very easy. It can not last 6 rounds. But keep living in your dream. Golovkin slow? Hahahahaha
All Mayweather fan terrified that Mayweather will fight Golovkin because they know Golovkin beat Mayweather very very fast by KO. Mayweather stand no chance!!Posted September 16, 2013 11:10 pm
What about a Canelo and GGG bout?Posted September 16, 2013 11:08 pm
Good article, we’ll just have to see.Posted September 16, 2013 11:07 pm
Adrian cloner will fight fmj next year or his last fight.Posted September 16, 2013 10:55 pm
Death Star thank you! was big pleasure to read such fine words about Golovkin.
Golovkin can do 154 but Mayweather will never fight him. Golovkin real P4P number 1 in world and Mayweather know it. Mayweather stand no chance against Golovkin even if they fight at same weight 147 (but this is impossible of course) Golovkin still beat him very easy. So Mayweather continue to pick fights he know he can win. It is normal. He been doing that for many year. Golovkin best in world by long way. Mayweather stand no chance against him. Fight be over very fast. Golovkin beat Mayweather very easy. Mayweather can fight Khan easy win. Manny easy win. Alexander easy win. Garcia easy win. But Mayweather never fight Golovkin because he know he lose very fast!Posted September 16, 2013 10:44 pm
I’d been hearing too many stories about Gennady Golovkin, the undefeated WBA middleweight beltholder coached by Abel Sanchez at the veteran trainer‘s gym in Big Bear, to stay away.
When Sanchez told me last month that rising Mexican star Saul Alvarez would not only arrive to train at The Summit, his high altitude training center, in May but also spar with Golovkin, I knew my time to return had come.
By sitting in on a sparring session between the two, I’d find out whether there’s any truth to the outlandish gym rumors I’d heard about Golovkin, a 28-year-old native of Kazakhstan who goes by the nickname “Superman,” and I’d see how talented and tough the 20-year-old 154-pound beltholder really is.
I realize that sparring is not the same thing as an actual fight. However, given what I’d heard and read about Golovkin (20-0, 17 knockouts), a 2003 world amateur champ and 2004 Olympic silver medalist who defeated the likes of Lucian Bute (by KO), Andre Dirrell and Andy Lee in the amateurs, I figured he could tell me more about Alvarez (36-0-1, 26 KOs) than the kid’s fights with faded old Carlos Baldomir and naturally smaller recent opponents such as Jose Cotto, Lovemore Ndou and Matthew Hatton.
“Perro is getting lit up in sparring by this Russian dude!” read the text message from Garcia, an assistant trainer for junior lightweight prospect Eloy Perez, who frequently trains in Big Bear.
“Perro,” of course, is Alfredo Angulo, the rugged junior middleweight contender who was preparing for his HBO-televised fight against Joachim Alcine last July when he locked horns with Golovkin at Sanchez‘s gym. Garcia later gave me a more-detailed account of the sparring session. Lightweight contender Urbano Antillon, who is trained by Sanchez, supported Garcia’s story.
A few months later I got a phone call from the producer of a Spanish-language sports show, who swore that he witnessed Golovkin “embarrass” Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the Wild Card gym during an open workout held for the Latino media a few weeks before the unbeaten middleweight pulled out of scheduled Dec. 4 card.
A Wild Card regular who spotted me at the Alvarez-Hatton fight in Anaheim, Calif., this past March whispered that he saw Golovkin give undefeated super middleweight prospect Peter Quillin all he could handle at Roach’s famous boxing club.
The producer and the gym rat didn’t want to go on record for fear of being banned from Wild Card, which is understandable (I guess), but Garcia, who watched Golovkin and Angulo spar in Big Bear, has no problem sharing his observations with his fellow boxing fans.
“Alfredo Angulo is a very strong, very competitive, prideful guy who has a great team behind him, but Golovkin is on another level,” said Garcia, who says he watched three sparring sessions between the two over the course of one week. “His strength, his demeanor, his skill, everything he did in there was just too much for Angulo, which surprised the hell out of me.
“I’ve seen Angulo spar many times before and he‘s always the one doing the hurting. He’s so damn tough I’ve never seen him take a step back, let alone get hurt. I was expecting him to test this Golovkin guy that I’d never seen before, but ‘Superman’ was in there taking and giving, and he hurt Angulo a couple times, especially to the body. Angulo had to get on his bike against Golovkin, which was just bizarre to see.”Posted September 16, 2013 9:59 pm
PEEJ, the fact that Golovkin hasn’t fought at 154, doesn’t mean that he can’t make the weight…Canelo made the weight & you know he sacrificed a lot to get there; if GGG is willing to make 154, why should we have a problem with it? If he has to cut a limb, well that’s on him, but we, the fans shouldn’t be the road-block to this super-fight…come on, man, you should be asking for this kind of fights…Posted September 16, 2013 9:54 pm
ggg hit’s harder than edison miranda. that dude can really punch
-tyrell hendrix light-heayweight prospectPosted September 16, 2013 9:53 pm
Yes GGG vs FMJ is the fight that works. GGG has always fought blown up Welters, look at this record it is padded full with Welters and Jnr Middles. When he isn’t fighting little fellas then it is so-called contenders outside the Top 15. When they are supposed contenders its because they have been out the ring for 12 months and made a name by being KO’ed by a real champ. Yep, for sure this is the fight that GGG wants more than any. Typical fraudulent, smoke and mirror aspirations of greatness by GGG. Look at the suckers aboard that hype train. Chooooooo Choooooooo!!Posted September 16, 2013 9:50 pm
macklin said this after fight ggg
“He’s the best I ever fought,” said Macklin, who also was stopped in the 11th round of a 2012 world-title fight by lineal champion Sergio Martinez and lost a heavily disputed split decision in Germany to Felix Sturm in a world-title bout in 2011. “He never really let me get started. It was a great shot he landed.
“The left hook to the body is personally one of my favorites. I tip my hat to him. He’s a great champion. He has clubbing, solid power, and you can feel the weight of every punch he throws.”Posted September 16, 2013 9:47 pm
back whenever sergio martinez’s promoter lou dibella said, scornfully and very defensively i might add, about ggg, who was the reigning wba champion, ”who is ggg? he brings nothing to the table. that fight doesn’t make sense. he doesn’t deserve a shot at martinez”, but martinez fought dzinziruk, barker, murray rofl.
He then said before ggg fought macklin
“Matt Macklin’s not going to be scared Saturday. Gennady is going to have to walk though fire. It’s going to be the hardest fight of his career.”
he even offered ggg a fight with martinez if he beat macklin
“Mr. Dibella told me, ‘Gennady, if you beat Matthew, I promise you a fight with Sergio Martinez.’ [I said] ‘Okay, Mr. Dibella, thank you.’ This [the Macklin fight] is a big step for the best fight.”
but after ggg demolished tough nut macklin with ease, the same macklin who got robbed over in germany against wba champ sturm and took martinez to the wire and was on even footing with him until the end, dibella said this
”I heard that shot,” Lou DiBella, Macklin’s promoter, said. “It sounded like something cracked. “That was one of the hardest body shots I’ve seen since that knockout,” DiBella said. “Golovkin is a beast. He’s an animal. This kid is going to demolish people for awhile. In terms of ability, he is an absolute animal. Matt was game and fighting, but Golovkin is super strong. He’s a great fighter. I give him all his props. He needed to show it against a real guy. That was one of the great body shots I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been around this game for 25 years.”
“Sergio will be out for at least a year. You saw his last fight, he won it on guts and will and balls alone. He had no knee, he had no hand, and I’m not sending a champion who is 38-years-old – after a year plus layoff – into a ring with this guy. I’m not saying they will never fight. I’m not speaking for Sergio, who is a grown as man and controls his own career. The successor to Sergio Martiknez has already been determined and the next great middleweight is Triple G,” DiBella said.Posted September 16, 2013 9:44 pm
Cotto came close, but only Pacman has the speed, in and out and lateral footwork, and punching agility, aggressiveness, work-rate, punching power, and stamina to actually execute Oscar’s plan well enough to actually beat Floyd. And Floyd at least suspects as much himself… That’s why all the shenanigans. And what gets me is some Mayweather fans actually think Cotto could repeatedly hit Floyd but Pacman can’t?… Twice as much?! HAAAH!!!Posted September 16, 2013 9:32 pm
S-REDMOND, I agree with you, Floyd is a WW & he should come down to 147-he’s there anyways & fight the best available foes at that weight; now, if he wants to challenge himself further, just to prove a point & shoot for the possibility to be considered the GOAT then I think he should try his skills against Sergio & GGG at 154 of course-& Pac if he looks like a killer in the Rios fight…to me, that’s his best chance to be discussed by boxing historians, scribes & fans as THE GREATEST BOXER TO EVER LIVE…any other way won’t do, I think.Posted September 16, 2013 9:26 pm
I can’t see how anyone in there right mind can believe that Floyd weighed 150 and change at the weigh in, then LOSES 4 pounds over nite after he goes on record saying how he eats 4 or 5 steaks, and all the trimmings after a weigh in… And he LOSES weight?? No freeking way!Posted September 16, 2013 9:21 pm
“If Canelo or Mayweather wanted to fight Golovkin at 154, we would just need to know ahead of time so I can start dropping him a little quicker,” Sanchez said. “Right now I’m not even dropping him. It’s so easy (making weight). I’m talking (he weighs) 167 lbs before training. That is his walk around weight. We did say that he’d fight anybody from 154 to 168 lbs and in those ranges I don’t think that anybody at 154 lbs goes the distance with him.”
While some may scoff at Sanchez’ claims that Golovkin would stop anyone at junior middleweight inside of 12 rounds, the proof is in the pudding that GGG’s power is paralyzing and no boxer once the bell rings. With 24 knockouts in 27 fights while campaigning at middleweight, a drop down in weight shouldn’t sap the power from his punches. And that spells danger for anyone, including Mayweather and Alvarez.
But the reality is that Golovkin is a huge risk for either fighter and it wouldn’t be a surprise if both Mayweather and Alvarez steer clear of Golovkin for as long as they can. But eventually, avoidance may not be an option as worthy opponents for Mayweather or Canelo will dwindle and public demand for either to face Golovkin will come to an inaudible roar. They may not face him in the near future (or in Mayweather’s case, ever), but Golovkin is willing to wait and continue to bury everyone in his path.
“I think after three fights, or two fights, I will go to junior middleweight because of Floyd and Saul Alvarez,” Golovkin said. “Those are great fighters. Miguel Cotto is also very good. Why not? I feel great and junior middleweight is no problem for me. Maybe in the next two years I will go to super middleweight.”Posted September 16, 2013 9:14 pm
ggg walks around at 167-168 now but that’s only a recent thing. he walked around between 160-162 not that long ago. roy jones weighed 180 in the ring when he fought bernard hopkins at 160. canelo weighed 172 when he fought trout at at 154. victor ortiz weighed 164 against mayweather at 147. gatti weighed 161 when he fought joey gamache at 140. most of those fighters walk around at a heavier weight than their fighting weight too. so they can cut all that weight but ggg can’t cut 13-14 lbs? almost all fighters cut weight. cutting between 10 and 14 lbs is pretty much standard procedure for most fighters these days. 168 is the heaviest I’ve ever heard ggg weighing.
ggg’s current ring and walkaround weight is 167 lbs, which as i said earlier is only a recent thing, last november abel sanchez said ggg ”walks around here before training at 161-162. so he can make ’54 it’s just a matter of getting someone in there to fight him”. 167 is 5 lbs less than canelo weighed for trout and 2 lbs more than he weighed for mayweather. ggg is a small mw. roy jones weighed 180 when he fought hopkins. now that’s a big mw. just under a whole stone bigger than ggg.Posted September 16, 2013 9:12 pm
Mayweather would have been a FOOL to face Canelo when he was 38 years old and the kid was 25, he still has enough of his quickness at 36 to nullify these fighters attacks in 2 years he might be susceptible to more incoming fire and a guy who is 15 pounds heavier would be a bad choice… Floyd belongs with WW’sPosted September 16, 2013 8:49 pm
Floyd’s not fighting a MW at this pint in his career, he knows his limits he said he woke up at 146 the day he was supposed to fight Canelo… Facing a MW would be silly so he can weigh 150 and the guy can be 173? That’s just ridiculous… I doubt we ever see Mayweather above 147 again…Canelo was supposed to be the spoiler and instead he became a pupil…Posted September 16, 2013 8:47 pm
If Floyd moved up 160 he would lose to GGG. I could see him beating Martinez at that weight though.Posted September 16, 2013 8:41 pm
“Pac couldn’t have beaten Floyd when he was in his prime…” prof Konje, you must be wiser than millions of fans that were demanding what used to be called the fight of the century, between Pac & Floyd…one wonders why was that the case if Floyd was such a clear winner; to refresh your memory, the overwhelming majority of fans & the public in general, were curious & fancied the possible outcomes of a Floyd fight against a SOUTH-PAW with blinding SPEED & POWER, who threw punches in bunches from all KIND OF CRAZY ANGLES…I’m glad for you, who figured it all out & knew the outcome all-along…more power to you.Posted September 16, 2013 8:37 pm
Yuri once agains you realize GGG has never made 154 in his pro career. Just cause he says he can make it means nothing. If he could he would of already. There is more money at 154. That’s why he fought Rosado at 160
Bradley and Marquez both said they would rematch Pac before they signed to fight each other but Pac declined. He said there was no need to fight Nradley then after words he tried to fight Bradley and Bradley declined him. Same thing with Marquez, he said he would fight him but wanted a bigger purse. Pac declined because he didn’t want to give him that purse. The same reason Floyd said 40 mil and Pac declined because he wanted a bigger purse but to all the Pac fans Floyd was being greedy. Sucks when you ate no longer in the drivers seatPosted September 16, 2013 8:34 pm
As I said in June… Canelo had a punchers shot at a KO… But he was likely too flat footed and lead-legged to catch Floyd enough to do damage… He needed to train to mirror Cotto, in particular… But his ego and the over-confidence of his trainer got in the way of that necessity in camp.Posted September 16, 2013 8:22 pm
If Floyd fights and beats Pacman, even in a close fight… I will bow to his greatness!Posted September 16, 2013 8:10 pm
MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, BRADLEY WILL BEAT MARQUEZ AND WHEN HE DOES PAQUAIO WILL BE FORCED TO FIGHT BRADLEY AGAIN AND HE WILL LOSE AGAIN. THATS IF HE EVEN GETS PAST THE LOSER OF THE RIOS VS ALVARADO FIGHT. PAQUAIO NEEDS TO BEAT BRONER. I WROTE IT IN AN ARTICLE BEFORE, THE GUY THAT BEATS BRONER MAY GET A GOLDEN TICKET. OTHER THAN THAT PAQUAIO NEEDS TO GO ON A WIN STREAK BEFORE FLOYD EVEN CONSIDERS THE FIGHT. NOT JUST BEAT RIOS BECAUSE IF THATS THE CASE FLOYD SHOULD FIGHT ALVARDO….FLOYD ONLY FIGHTS WINNERS,CHAMPIONS AND TOP P4P GUYS, AND AS OF RIGHT NOW MANNY IS NONE OF THOSE. PROVE ME WRONG.Posted September 16, 2013 8:03 pm
People, wise up. Pacquaio could not have beaten Mayweather when he was in his prime and those days are gone. There is no way, none, that Pacquaio could compete now. Face it.Posted September 16, 2013 7:57 pm
Golovkin beat Mayweather at 154 easy and Mayweather know it. All Russia know this. Mayweather not last 6 rounds with Golovkin. Mayweather never fight Golovkin he know he lose fast. Mayweather will chicken out of fight with Golovkin. Golovkin best in world and Mayweather know it. Mayweather can carry on fight people he can beat, make him self feel great but Golovkin beat him very easy. Mayweather scared of Golovkin.Posted September 16, 2013 7:46 pm
I’m NOT saying that Pac will do that, in fact, I doubt very much that Pac will survive Rios, but please, understand my point. You’re as good as your last fight & if Pac emerges from the ashes like the old powerful tornado he was, we’ll be asking for the FIGHT with renewed vigor…that’s all I’m saying…Posted September 16, 2013 7:45 pm
“Beating Rios impressively doesn’t translate to be competitive against Floyd.” If Pac looks like his old-self, darting in-out & punching with speed & power & take Rios out in 5, 6 rounds, everybody will be claiming for Floyd/Pac all-over again…the key IS NOT beating Rios but looking like the Pac that EVERYBODY wanted to see fight Floyd; if you want to argue against that reasoning, be my guest…Posted September 16, 2013 7:37 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
“Pac needs to beat the WINNER of Marquez vs Bradley impressively to make a Floyd Fight interesting again which I doubt he can DO.”
Both Bradley and JMM were already offered rematches a few months back, and both REFUSED. JMM made a public statement to the media a few weeks back saying that he’ll NEVER fight PacMan again. So how is PacMan supposed to fight those two when they refuse to fight him again???
Please follow boxing more closely, so you don’t make a total IDIOT of yourself on ESB while claiming to be some great fight prophet.Posted September 16, 2013 7:15 pm
3G is the more dangerous opponent for Floyd by a country mile, nobody come close; Sergio is the far second.Posted September 16, 2013 7:14 pm
“Floyd would hammer GGG.” Hahahaha, that’s funny; 3G is not a newcomer to the game, the guy has a serious pedigree & not only he has the power to hurt Floyd but also the skills to deliver that power…3G would be able to do the things Canelo couldn’t do. I’m not saying he’ll beat Floyd for sure but you can be sure that such a fight would be a lot more competitive than the Canelo schooling.Posted September 16, 2013 7:12 pm
”Broner didn’t care how much Paulie hit him because he knew he couldn’t hurt him.” What is the excuse against Ponce who equally was very competitive, & Deleon can crack. Broner won’t be a threat to Floyd in 1000 years.Posted September 16, 2013 7:04 pm
There is no1 out there now for Floyd to fight, i would hate to see him lose because of age, and no matter how Great he is, sooner or later age WILL catchup with him. Id hate to see him lose to Garcia or Khan (as unlikely as it is).
Q – Public Enemy-Sredmond 3 mosqueteras
PACQUIOA VS MAYWEATHER NEXT. No one else left.Posted September 16, 2013 6:15 pm
To all those who cannot stand Mayweather, myself included, just stop buying the PPVs and paying attention. He’ll go away eventually and it’ll be better for boxing. Mayweather is the de facto god of all the rot in this country who believe that they too can make it big time by acting ghetto. Every single person I know who has an opinion on this clown just want him to disappear. There is a great documentary available on Netflix about the Klitschkos where a German sportswriter says something profound to the effect of that you can only measure a champion’s greatness when they have had to come back from defeat or extreme disappointment. This does apply to all of the truly great ones. Mayweather will never be considered part of that group. Talented he is. But of the worst character. He has dodged several good fighters throughout his career when they were at their peak.Posted September 16, 2013 5:57 pm
Pac needs to beat the WINNER of Marquez vs Bradley impressively to make a Floyd Fight interesting again which I doubt he can DO.Posted September 16, 2013 5:49 pm
Hi guys, I like boxing but I find it a bit dangerous for both players to fight for the full 12 rounds, why can’t they fight for 6 rounds, stop and have a cup of tea and a sandwich and then after 15 minutes fight again? It would make the sport much safer.Posted September 16, 2013 5:48 pm
Beating Rios impressively doesn’t translate to being competitive vs. Floyd. Rios doesn’t possess one asset that Floyd has maybe other than a GOOD chin. Rios is #0 P4P. Floyd is #1 P4P. BIG difference.Posted September 16, 2013 5:47 pm
“FA, my post was on it’s way, when I read your post…we pretty much agree.” – Largo, you know what they say about great minds. Ha.Posted September 16, 2013 5:43 pm
“Browner is no threat to Floyd. He is not quick enough and he doesn’t have good enough foot work. ”
That’s today, Peej. Broner didn’t care how much Malignaggi hit him because he knew he couldn’t hurt him. He’ll show a much better defense against an opponent he knows has the power to hurt and/or KO him.
Broner is young and growing. Give him a year or two. Then we’ll see what’s what. Tell you one thing, Broner should be fighting more.Posted September 16, 2013 5:42 pm
“It’s ridiculous to consider opponents like Golovkin, the guy’s a middleweight. Why not put him in the ring with Vladimir Klitchko right away? Maybe he can knock him out?” – Your comparison makes no sense. As I said, GGG already offered to move down to 154. Floyd holds two belts at 154. How the hell does that compare to Floyd fighting Wlad K?Posted September 16, 2013 5:42 pm
Browner is no threat to Floyd. He is not quick enough and he doesn’t have good enough foot work. Not to mention his defense is not all they great. GGG has yet to ever come in at middle. Many people are claiming Canelo was weight drained, well what’s gonna happen when GGG comes to 154, a weight he has yet to make in his pro career? Pac was never a threat and if they fought now the books would open as a 4 to 1 with Floyd being the favorite. Besides that Pac will be KOd by Rios. Martinez can’t make 154 eitherPosted September 16, 2013 5:35 pm
Floyd should definitely fight Broner, Floyd would be the good guy and fan favourite in that fight for a change, it would make a fortune, it would be a challenging opponent, it would add a lot to his resume and Floyd would probably win.Posted September 16, 2013 5:32 pm
I hear wear you’re coming from. There are still some fights out there, but non that will bring great interest, more importantly a bigger gate than Canelo did. Kahn brings the UK fans but US fans are not going to pay to see that fight. Broner might bring a good gate cause he talks a good game, other than that no more big paydays for Mayweather. Canelo on the other hand has some big fights in his future. Canelo vs Pacquiao, Canelo vs Cotto, Canelo vs GGG, Canelo vs Angulo, Canelo vs Chavez Jr, Canelo vs Martinez. Those are international fights that entire countries tune into. Mayweather puts on boxing exhibitions, clinics, he’s the best at it. Fight fans want to see fights not boxing clinics.Posted September 16, 2013 5:29 pm
Oh, and Amir Khan. A Mayweather/Khan fight will probably happen just cuz.Posted September 16, 2013 5:27 pm
I’ve always thought that Mayweather fighting Canelo this early in his six-fight deal with ShowTime was anti-climatic and I wondered, and still wonder, what he will do for an encore? I feel Mayweather should have made Canelo one of his later fights rather than earlier.
Personally, I’d like to see a Mayweather/Marquez rematch and that might just happen if Marquez beats Bradley. It will take some serious finger twisting to get Floyd to fight Manny but beyond that, I doubt Arum will ever let that fight happen.
I agree with Vitali that Danny shouldn’t be too anxious to fight Floyd. Garcia is at the top of his game right now with an undefeated record. Why move up in weight and take on the best in a division that he’s never fought in before? Yeah, I know–money–and there’s a lot of potential answers/rebuttals to that questin. But like I said in another thread, I think Danny should stay at jr. welterweight for a while and clean house.
As for other potential “irrelevant” oppoents, Floyd would hammer GGG. A bout with Bradley would be very intriguing because Bradley was the first guy to knock Pacquiao off his exhalted throne. I’d like to see Bradley’s boxing skills put to the ultimate test. Floyd would give him that.
Then there’s Adrien Broner. He’s a little green right now but he is a two-time world champ in two different weight divisions. At some time in the not so distant future, he could definitely be a viable, and challenging opponent for Floyd. I mean, one has to wonder why Floyd keeps him so close? Friendship? Mentorship? Or holding the enemy close? In any case, there’s a fight that I think is worth looking forward to.
Of course in another year, Thurman might be ready for the big challenge. Standing just a little back in the shadows is Lara, Trout, Alexander, and potentially Kell Brook.
I mean let’s face it folks, his fight with Canelo is likely the biggest–money wise–that Floyd will ever do. But all his fights are big fights. He’s got four to go.Posted September 16, 2013 5:27 pm
i don’t include Broner because he struggled too much against Paulie & the mexican south-paw-sorry i forgot his name…Floyd has too much of everything for Adrien.Posted September 16, 2013 5:26 pm
Floyd won’t fight a guy like Broner, he’s too much of a threat, Floyd doesn’t take risks. I know it’s wrong but I do judge peoples intellect when they were thinking Canelo had a chance and wasn’t a cherry pick. I don’t make bets but I opened a betting account just to put my life savings on Floyd but the bet limit was only £81.Posted September 16, 2013 5:25 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I believe Mayweather´s goal is to retire with a record of 50-0-0-0.Posted September 16, 2013 5:23 pm
FA, my post was on it’s way, when I read your post…we pretty much agree.Posted September 16, 2013 5:22 pm
3 fighters could give Floyd some serious competition, I think: Pac, if he looks really good beating Rios-a big IF, Sergio Martinez, even though he’s shown to be in serious decline, he might find the energy for a final stellar performance & finally 3G, who I think has the pedigree & the power to hurt & stop Floyd. Nobody else has a chance…IMHO.Posted September 16, 2013 5:21 pm
Everyone knows FMJ biggest challenge would of been against a prime Pacman at 147lb. In true FMJ style he ducked an aggressive fighter in his prime using unfounded PED allegations. Bradley has lost his last 2 fights and shouldn’t be considered. FMJ will never ever fight GGG and nor should he as GGG is a Middleweight. Khan would be interesting for a while due to speed but even FMJ has the power to KO that Brit china chin. We’ll see what Pacman has left against Rios as he might still be the only unknown to test FMJ. Until then FMJ cannot be challenged at this time.Posted September 16, 2013 5:16 pm
It’s ridiculous to consider opponents like Golovkin, the guy’s a middleweight. Why not put him in the ring with Vladimir Klitchko right away? Maybe he can knock him out?Posted September 16, 2013 5:15 pm
Absurd premise because it implies that no matter who Floyd faces nobody has a chance. Broner, Pacquiao, Martinez and GGG all have the skills and firepower that make them a less than 3/1 underdog. So don’t give me this BS there’s nobody to fight.Posted September 16, 2013 5:13 pm
laraPosted September 16, 2013 5:06 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Floyd should NEVER fight Kahn or Alexander. Those would be cakewalk fights and not even competitive. He should definitely fight 3G at 154lbs, even though many claim he’s just too slow for FMJ. That could be, but 3G cuts off the ring effortlessly — much better than any fight I’ve seen. Not only that, but he has much more power than Canelo and will hurt FMJ wiith anything he lands, to the head or body.
FMJ should also fight Garcia and PacMan (if he beats Rios) at WW, and maybe Lara at Jr. MW.Posted September 16, 2013 5:04 pm
FKKN BENARD HOPKINS CHALLENGED FLOYD MAYWEATHER TO FIGHT @ 160 IN MAY OF NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!Posted September 16, 2013 5:03 pm
LaraPosted September 16, 2013 5:02 pm
Tomorrow Never Comes
(No offence intended, but) this reminds me of the search for the Great White Hope just over 100 years ago, when the whole world was trawled to find someone to beat Jack Johnson.
People are now searching the whole world to find someone to beat Floyd Mayweather. I won’t be surprised if Oscar puts up a bounty for anyone who can beat him. Just like Jack Johnson, Floyd is looking on and laughing all the way to the bank.Posted September 16, 2013 4:58 pm
Just read an article where Hopkins called out Floyd at 160. lolPosted September 16, 2013 4:54 pm
What happened to facing Sergio Martinez?Posted September 16, 2013 4:54 pm
Interesting article! I think you may be right. Unfortunately.Posted September 16, 2013 4:14 pm